True Crime Bullsh**

Photos from Keyes's Constable home open up new leads, new ideas about Keyes, and old questions. Plus a look at encounters and attacks on college campuses across the country gives us insight into how Keyes was operating.

This episode was written, researched, edited, and produced by Josh Hallmark.
With additional research by: Jordan Taylor, Shana Wilensky, Michelle Tooker, and Kim K.

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Music by: William Hellfire, Sergey Cheremisinov, Whithe, Aquartos, Dan Mayo.
Featured music by: Broken Social Scene.  

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Patreon producers: Amelia Hancock, Amy Basil, Annette L, Asch Fish, Benjamin Cioppa-Fong, Casey Jensen-Richardson, Drew Vipond, Hallie Reed, Jessica Alihodzic, Jillian Natale, Kathleen Studer, Kendall C, Kimberly K, Lana, Lauren F, Lynnlie Tuschoff, Manolis Boukolus, Nicole and Dennis Henry, Sarah King, SC, Shelly Brewer, Tuesdi Woodworth, Zack Ignatowicz Warren, Beth McNally, John Comrie, Jordan Taylor, Sara Cee, Shawna Hardin, and Lydia Fiedler.

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The Kimberly interviews provide critical information to the Keyes timeline, and a pattern begins to emerge. New research takes Josh to the East Coast and two potential victims. Surprising new information leads us back to some previously disregarded tips. And more than fifty new photos change the course of the investigation.

This episode was written, researched, edited, and produced by Josh Hallmark.
With additional research by: Jordan Taylor, Shana Wilensky, Michelle Tooker, and Kim K.

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Join Josh on the AdvocacyCon livestream on Facebook at 7:30pm Central on Thursday (3/28).

Music by: William Hellfire, Sergey Cheremisinov, Radical Face, Sero, Whithe, Esther Abrami, John Gegelman, Tristan Barton, Jameson Nathan Jones.
Featured music by: The Cinematic Orchestra.  

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Patreon producers: Amelia Hancock, Amy Basil, Annette L, Asch Fish, Benjamin Cioppa-Fong, Casey Jensen-Richardson, Drew Vipond, Hallie Reed, Jessica Alihodzic, Jillian Natale, Kathleen Studer, Kendall C, Kimberly K, Lana, Lauren F, Lynnlie Tuschoff, Manolis Boukolus, Nicole and Dennis Henry, Sarah King, SC, Shelly Brewer, Tuesdi Woodworth, Zack Ignatowicz Warren, Beth McNally, John Comrie, Karli McNutt, Jordan Taylor, Sara Cee, Shawna Hardin, and Lydia Fiedler.

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After a year break, Josh and team are back with dozens of new files, hours of new interviews, and a much bigger view of Keyes' and Kimberly's personal lives, and their implications on his crimes.

This episode was written, researched, edited, and produced by Josh Hallmark.
With additional research by: Jordan Taylor, Shana Wilensky, Michelle Tooker, and Kim K.

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Music by: William Hellfire, Sergey Cheremisinov, Radical Face, Sero, Hive, Kyle Preston, and Parhelion
Featured music by: The New Pornographers  

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True Crime Bullsh** returns March 21.

Written and produced by Josh Hallmark.

Featuring:
• Shana Wilensky
• Jordan Taylor
• Kim K.
• Kaz
• Michelle Tooker
* Josh & Dakota from Somewhere in the Pines

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Berkshire Podcast Festival: www.BerkshirePodcastFestival.com
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Binge the rest of season one of Unsafe Spaces, at Unsafe Spaces: Tampa's Missing Men, wherever you listen to podcasts.

Scott Schweickert's house is searched, disturbing photos are found on Steven Lorenzo's computer, more Lorenzo assault victims come forward, someone confesses, and another gay man goes missing.

This episode was written, researched, edited, and produced by Josh Hallmark
With additional research by: Kaz

Featuring:
• Dr. Scott from LA Not So Confidential
• Drew Mackie from Gayest Episode Ever

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Music by: Evolving Scapes, Grisly Bill, Light in the Shadow, Hynogogia, Yehezkel Raz, and Yotam Agam
Featured music by: Chris Garneau

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Steven Lorenzo's friend and accomplice is identified as Scott Schweickert. And the pair's history is revealed through AOL instant messages and a mutual friend. Tampa PD investigate multiple assaults within the Tampa gay community, leading to an arrest and a second search warrant. And the relationship between Steven and Scott gets complicated.

This episode was written, researched, edited, and produced by Josh Hallmark
With additional research by: Kaz
Audio editing by: Darron Wood (The Defense Diaries podcast)

This is a Studio BOTH/AND production: bothand.fyi
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Resources include:
• The Charlie Project
• NAMUS
• The Tampa Bay Times: Which one is the real Scott?
• Newspapers.com
• CNN.com
• Equity Florida Action, Inc

Music by: Yehezkel Rez, Circles, The Bows, Spiriturn, and Colour Book
Featured music by: Owen Pallett

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Steven Lorenzo comes to the forefront of Tampa PD's investigation into the disappearance of Jason Galehouse and the death of Michael Wachholtz. Lorenzo's criminal history leads to a sting operation that ends in a very haunting search of his home, and lists of some very important names.


This episode was written, researched, edited, and produced by Josh Hallmark
With additional research by: Kaz
Featuring: Jason Leroy (The Binge Movie Podcast)


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Resources include:
• The Charlie Project
• NAMUS
• Uncovered
• The Tampa Bay Times
• Newspapers.com
• The Albuquerque Journal
• Amnesty International


Music by: Yehezkel Rez, Yotam Agam, Theatre of Delays, Grisly Bill, and Benjamin Esterlis
Featured music by: Jacob Fossum

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Josh's other investigative true crime podcast, Unsafe Spaces, just wrapped its first season. Binge the first four episodes here and now, then head on over to Unsafe Spaces: Tampa's Missing Men to subscribe and binge the complete season.

On December 22, 2003, two gay men were reported missing to Tampa PD. The investigations into their disappearances, would open a Pandora's Box that would force the police, the media, and society to examine how their actions and negligence led to some of Florida's most sinister crimes.

This episode was written, researched, edited, and produced by Josh Hallmark.
With additional research by: Kaz.
Featuring: Eric Schmidt and Dr. Scott (LA Not So Confidential).

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Resources include:
• The Charlie Project
• NAMUS
• Uncovered
• Clearwater Police Department
• The Tampa Bay Times: 1 2 3

Music by: Colour Book, Yehezkel Rez, Roniit, Raz Burg, Raz Burg, and Yotam Agam
Featured music by: Josef Salvat

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In March and April of 2023, Josh, most of the research team, Dr. Kunkle, Bobby Chacon, and others involved in True Crime Bullsh** filmed for several weeks for Sundance TV's True Crime Story: Citizen Detective. That episode, the season finale of the series, airs this Thursday on Sundance TV, and Friday on the Sundance TV streaming app.

Check out the preview now.

https://www.sundancetv.com/shows/true-crime-story-citizen-detective--1064212

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Unsafe Spaces is an investigative, serialized true crime podcast that explores the crimes that take place in the places we’re supposed to feel safest.

In Season One: Tampa’s Missing Men, I explore how two different missing persons cases, reported on the same day, opened a Pandora’s Box of unreported assaults, cold missing persons cases, ignored rapes, and unsolved murders within Florida’s gay community; and the two men who could be responsible for all of them. Not to mention cold cases of missing gay and murdered men in Georgia, Illinois, Pennsylvania, New Jersey, and beyond.

Check out Unsafe Spaces: www.UnsafeSpacesPodcast.com

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The season finale.

This episode was written, researched, edited, and produced by Josh Hallmark.
With additional research by: Jordan Taylor, Shana Wilensky, Michelle Tooker, and Kim K.
And research assistance by: Andrew French and Kaz.
With special thanks to Jordan Taylor, Jessica Alihodzic, illian Natale, and Bridget LaMell.

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Music by: William Hellfire, Yehezkel Rez, Whithe, Sergey Cheremisinov, Radical Face, Roniit, Raz Burg, and Yotam Agam
Featured music by: Heather Woods Broderick

Patreon producers: Amelia Hancock, Amy Basil, Annette, Benjamin Cioppa-Fong, Casey Jensen-Richardson, Dr. Jill Cooper, Drew Vipond, Elizabeth Weidner, Hallie Reed, Jillian Natale, John O'Leary, Kendall C, Kimberly K, Lauren F, Lindsay Kurtis, Lynnlie Tuschoff, Manolis Boukolus, Meggan Capps-Seawel, Mike Sherman, Nicole and Dennis Henry, Sara C, Sarah King, SC, Shannon Foster, Shelly Brewer, Tuesdi Woodworth, Zack Ignatowicz Warren, and Lydia Fiedler.




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In a new dump of documents from Anchorage PD, the research team finds new interviews with Keyes, new evidence photos, and a whole host of other new info that answers questions and begs new ones; not just in the Koenig case, but many of the most compelling cases we've looked into over the past five years of the show.

Next episode: April 27, 2023 / April 25 for Patreons at $4+

With additional research by: Jordan Taylor, Shana Wilensky, and Michelle Tooker.
And research assistance by: Andrew French, Kaz, and Kim K.
With special thanks to Jordan Taylor, Jessica Alihodzic, and Jillian Natale

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Music by: William Hellfire, Yehezkel Rez, Sergey Cheremisinov, Radical Face, Lee Rosevere, Raz Burg, and Yotam Agam
Featured music by: Emily Haines & The Soft Skeleton

Patreon producers: Amelia Hancock, Amy Basil, Annette, Benjamin Cioppa-Fong, Casey Jensen-Richardson, Dr. Jill Cooper, Drew Vipond, Elizabeth Weidner, Hallie Reed, Jillian Natale, John O'Leary, Kendall C, Kimberly K, Lauren F, Lindsay Kurtis, Lynnlie Tuschoff, Manolis Boukolus, Meggan Capps-Seawel, Mike Sherman, Nicole and Dennis Henry, Sara C, Sarah King, SC, Shannon Foster, Shelly Brewer, Tuesdi Woodworth, Zack Ignatowicz Warren, and Lydia Fiedler.




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In our investigation into the disappearance of Steven Earl Kraft Jr, we fill in some critical gaps in the Keyes timeline - which could have big implications. And then, we get some long-awaited documents.

This episode was written, produced, and researched by Josh Hallmark.
Additional research by Jordan Taylor.
Research assistance by Shana Wilensky. This episode features Shana Wilensky

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Patreon producers: Alexa Horn, Amelia Hancock, Amy Basil, Annette, Benjamin Cioppa-Fong, Casey Jensen-Richardson, Dr. Jill Cooper, Drew Vipond, Elizabeth Weidner, Hallie Reed, Jillian Natale, John O'Leary, Kendall C, Kimberly K, Lauren F, Lindsay Kurtis, Lynnlie Tuschoff, Manolis Boukolus, Meggan Capps-Seawel, Mike Sherman, Nicole and Dennis Henry, Sara C, Sarah King, SC, Shannon Foster, Shelly Brewer, Tuesdi Woodworth, Zack Ignatowicz Warren, and Lydia Fiedler.

Music by: William Hellfire, Yehezkel Rez, Sergey Cheremisinov, Radical Face, Aquartos, Itai Argaman, and pATCHES
Featured song: Electricity by Kashka

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Israel Keyes claims his philosophy on killing kids changed after the birth of his daughter. But what exactly does that mean? And what does it imply about his activities prior to 2002?

This episode was written, produced, and researched by Josh Hallmark.
Research assistance by Jordan Taylor

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Patreon producers: Alexa Horn, Amelia Hancock, Amy Basil, Annette, Benjamin Cioppa-Fong, Casey Jensen-Richardson, Dr. Jill Cooper, Drew Vipond, Elizabeth Weidner, Hallie Reed, Jillian Natale, John O'Leary, Kendall C, Kimberly K, Lauren F, Lindsay Kurtis, Lynnlie Tuschoff, Manolis Boukolus, Meggan Capps-Seawel, Mike Sherman, Nicole and Dennis Henry, Sara C, SC, Shannon Foster, Shelly Brewer, Tuesdi Woodworth, Zack Ignatowicz Warren, and Lydia Fiedler.

Music by: William Hellfire and Yehezkel Rez
Featured song: Youth by Sarah Klang

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For the first time in 4 years, we return to Bloomington, Indiana to discuss new information regarding the cases of Israel Keyes and Lauren Spierer.

True Crime Bullsh** will return on March 23.

This episode was written, produced, and researched by Josh Hallmark.
Research assistance by Shana Wilensky, Michelle Tooker, Ben Lamb, and Jordan Taylor

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Patreon producers: Alexa Horn, Amelia Hancock, Amy Basil, Annette, Benjamin Cioppa-Fong, Casey Jensen-Richardson, Dr. Jill Cooper, Drew Vipond, Hallie Reed, Jillian Natale, John O'Leary, Kendall C, Kimberly K, Lauren F, Lindsay Kurtis, Lynnlie Tuschoff, Manolis Boukolus, Meggan Capps-Seawel, Mike Sherman, Nicole and Dennis Henry, Sara C, SC, Shannon Foster, Shelly Brewer, Tuesdi Woodworth, Zack Ignatowicz Warren, and Lydia Fiedler.

Music by:
William Hellfire, Radical Face, Sergey Cheremisinov, Itai Argaman, Oakfield, and Denhollander.
Featured song: Here Comes the Fire by Van Stee

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The Currier files take us to Wisconsin and the greater Midwest, where two new cases have strong circumstantial evidence, a tip potentially places Keyes in the right place at the right time, and new information leads us back to Indiana.

This episode was written, produced, and researched by Josh Hallmark.
Additional research by: Shana Wilensky, Andrew French, and Michelle Tooker.
Research assistance by Ben Lamb and Kaz

This is a Studio BOTH/AND production:
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Patreon producers: Alexa Horn, Amelia Hancock, Amy Basil, Annette, Benjamin Cioppa-Fong, Casey Jensen-Richardson, Dr. Jill Cooper, Drew Vipond, Hallie Reed, Jillian Natale, John O'Leary, Kendall C, Kimberly K, Lauren F, Lindsay Kurtis, Lynnlie Tuschoff, Manolis Boukolus, Meggan Capps-Seawel, Mike Sherman, Nicole and Dennis Henry, Sara C, SC, Shannon Foster, Shelly Brewer, Tuesdi Woodworth, Zack Ignatowicz Warren, and Lydia Fiedler.

Resources:
• NAMUS
• The Charley Project
• Google Trends
• The Polk County Sheriff’s Department: https://www.facebook.com/PolkSO/videos/435511950380015/
• Wisconsin Missing Persons Advocacy, Inc: https://www.wimissing.org/post/rose-marie-bly-10-years-and-a-new-approach-from-police

Music by:
William Hellfire, Radical Face, Sergey Cheremisinov, Sero, Yotam Agam, and Jordan Hatfield.
Featured song by Torres.













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A missing teen with a challenging childhood is largely ignored by local law enforcement. A lack of good information mixed with a lot of finger pointing only exacerbates an already troubled investigation. And three disappearances along a rural highway beg some serious questions about Keyes.

This episode was written and researched by Shana Wilensky.
With production, editing, and additional research by Josh Hallmark

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Music by:
Lowly, Pacific Northwest, Flight of the Inner Bird, and Open Sky
Featured song: Be Here by Andrew Word

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The Debra Feldman files from Hackensack PD were just 18 pages; but it only took one to make a massive impact and prove several long-standing speculations.

This episode was written, produced, and researched by Josh Hallmark.
Research assistance by Ben Lamb, Shana Wilensky, Kaz, and Michelle Tooker

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Patreon producers: Alexa Horn, Amy Basil, Annette, Benjamin Cioppa-Fong, Casey Jensen-Richardson, Dana Keith, Dr. Jill Cooper, Drew Vipond, Hallie Reed, Jessica Alihodzic, Jillian Natale, John O'Leary, Kendall C, Kimberly K, Lauren F, Lindsay Kurtis, Lynnlie Tuschoff, Manolis Boukolus, Meggan Capps-Seawel, Mike Sherman, Nicole and Dennis Henry, Sara C, SC, Shannon Foster, Shelly Brewer, Tuesdi Woodworth, Zack Ignatowicz Warren, and Lydia Fiedler.

Resources:
• Bureau of Transportation Statistics: https://transtats.bts.gov/ONTIME/Departures.aspx
• NJ.com; A son's torment: Believing a serial killer strangled his mother: https://www.nj.com/bergen/2013/12/a_son_tormented_believing_serial_killer_israel_keyes_strangled_his_mother_matthew_feldman_struggles.html

Music by:

William Hellfire, Radical Face, Lee Rosevere, Sergey Cheremisinov, Whithe, and Dan Mayo.

Featured song: It's Not by Aimee Mann

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Four Washington state FOIA responses tell very different stories and provide new insights into old cases. And a fifth, long-awaited file drops a bomb in everyone's laps.

This episode was written, produced, and researched by Josh Hallmark.
With additional research by Kaz.
Research assistance by Ben Lamb, Shana Wilensky, Michelle Tooker, Andrew French, and Jordan Taylor

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Patreon producers: Alexa Horn, Amy Basil, Annette, Benjamin Cioppa-Fong, Casey Jensen-Richardson, Dana Keith, Dr. Jill Cooper, Drew Vipond, Hallie Reed, Jessica Alihodzic, Jillian Natale, John O'Leary, Kendall C, Kimberly K, Lauren F, Lindsay Kurtis, Lynnlie Tuschoff, Manolis Boukolus, Meggan Capps-Seawel, Mike Sherman, Nicole and Dennis Henry, Sara C, SC, Shannon Foster, Shelly Brewer, Tuesdi Woodworth, Zack Ignatowicz Warren, and Lydia Fiedler.


Music by:

William Hellfire, Radical Face, Sergey Cheremisinov, Sero, Tristan Barton, Yotam Agam, and Aquartos.

Featured song: Souls in Space by Elk City

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We analyze every missing person case from Washington and its surrounding states during Keyes pre-Alaska life. A small pool of just 27 compelling Keyes cases emerge; providing a refresh on previously discussed cases, dives into new ones, and a grim bottom line. This is just the jumping off point into the final fast-paced, dense, and surprising 9 episodes of the season.

This episode was written, produced, and researched by Josh Hallmark.
Research assistance by Ben Lamb

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Resources:
The Charley Project, NAMUS, The Spokesman-Review, KIRO-7, and KJZZ-14.

Patreon producers: Alexa Horn, Amy Basil, Annette, Benjamin Cioppa-Fong, Casey Jensen-Richardson, Dana Keith, Dr. Jill Cooper, Drew Vipond, Hallie Reed, Jessica Alihodzic, Jillian Natale, John O'Leary, Kendall C, Kimberly K, Lauren F, Lindsay Kurtis, Lynnlie Tuschoff, Manolis Boukolus, Meggan Capps-Seawel, Mike Sherman, Nicole and Dennis Henry, Sara C, SC, Shannon Foster, Shelly Brewer, Tuesdi Woodworth, Zack Ignatowicz Warren, and Lydia Fiedler.

Music by:

William Hellfire, Radical Face, Sergey Cheremisinov, The Bows, Mike Vignola, and Dan Mayo.

Featured song: Washington by Sarah Harmer

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When a mother of two mysteriously vanishes, all eyes focus on her estranged husband. But as the investigation progresses, another nearby, high-profile case diverts both police funding and media attention away.

This episode was written and researched by Michelle Tooker.
With production and editing by Josh Hallmark.

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Patreon producers: Alexa Horn, Amy Basil, Benjamin Cioppa-Fong, Casey Jensen-Richardson, Christina Sisson, Dana Keith, Drew Vipond, Hallie Reed, Jessica Alihodzic, Jillian Natale, John O’Leary, Kendall C, Kharisma R, Kimberly K, Lauren F, Lindsay Kurtis, Lynnlie Tuschoff, Manolis Boulukos, Meggan Capps-Seawel, Sara C, SC, Shannon Foster, Shelly Brewer, Tuesdi Woodworth, Zack Ignatowicz Warren, Lydia Fiedler.

Music by:
Roniit, Dan Mayo, Yehezkal Rez, Sean Williams, The David Roy Collective, and We Dream of Eden

Featured song: Moon Mother by Richard Ferrell & Zephyr Gold

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A ten-year-old girl's Washington state disappearance draws some striking similarities to statements Keyes made and his known MO. A long line of potential suspects, evidence found over a hundred miles away, and her appearance on Keyes's computer muddle an investigation already hindered by a severe lack of evidence.

TCB is on its holiday/mid-season break. New episodes will return on January 12.

This episode was written and researched by Shana Wilensky.
With production, editing, and additional research by Josh Hallmark.

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Patreon producers: Alexa Horn, Amy Basil, Annette, Benjamin Cioppa-Fong, Casey Jensen-Richardson, Dana Keith, Dr. Jill Cooper, Drew Vipond, Hallie Reed, Jessica Alihodzic, Jillian Natale, John O’Leary, Kendall C, Kimberly K, Lauren F, Lindsay Kurtis, Lynnlie Tuschoff, Manolis Boulukos, Meggan Capps-Seawel, Sara C, SC, Shannon Foster, Shelly Brewer, Tuesdi Woodworth, Zack Ignatowicz Warren, Lydia Fiedler.

Music by:
Buddha Kid, Sergey Cheremisinov, Aija Alsina, DJ Taz Rashid, Roniit, Boreis, Dear Gravity with We DReam of Eden, and Kyle Preston
Featured song: You're Never Coming Back by Caysan Renshaw

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We return to Olympia and the disappearance of Jon Corey. We examine similarities between his disappearance and Keyes' MO and life at the time, along with similarities to the murder of a different serial killer.

This episode was written, produced, and researched by Josh Hallmark.
Additional research by Kaz.
Research assistance by Ben Lamb, Shana Wilensky, Michelle Tooker, and Andrew French.

This episodes features: Dr. Chris Kunkle

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Patreon producers: Alexa Horn, Amy Basil, Benjamin Cioppa-Fong, Casey Jensen-Richardson, Dana Keith, Dr. Jill Cooper, Drew Vipond, Hallie Reed, Jessica Alihodzic, Jillian Natale, John O'Leary, Kendall C, Kimberly K, Lauren F, Lindsay Kurtis, Lynnlie Tuschoff, Manolis Boukolus, Meggan Capps-Seawel, Mike Sherman, Sara C, SC, Shannon Foster, Shelly Brewer, Tuesdi Woodworth, Zack Ignatowicz Warren, and Lydia Fiedler.

Music by:

William Hellfire, Palm Blue, Nobou, John Gegelman, Radical Face, Oakfield, and Josh McCausland.

Featured song: Swallow by Ben Reneer

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An assortment of strange coincidences and odd circumstances take Josh and the research team to Olympia, Washington where the disappearance of Jonathan Corey completely baffles everyone.

This episode was written, produced, and researched by Josh Hallmark.
Additional research by Kaz.
Research assistance by Ben Lamb, Shana Wilensky, and Michelle Tooker.

This episodes features: Brian Burke.

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Resources:

• The Audobon Society | https://www.audubon.org/important-bird-areas/eld-inlet-mud-bay#:~:text=About%2080%20percent%20of%20the%20inlet%20is%20less%20than%2010%20meters%20deep.

• Tidal Currents of Puget Sound by Starpath Publishing

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Music by:

William Hellfire, Onyx Music, Sonic Yard, Itai Argaman, Whithe, Yehezkel Rez, Sergey Cheremisinov, Jameson Nathan Jones.

Featured song: The Beach House by Space Doves

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In this discussion on producing long-form true crime podcasts, we dive into the Keyes case, James Baysinger's work on the Hide + Seek podcast, what goes into these productions, and the overall personal and case impacts.
Panel: Josh Hallmark & James Baysinger
Moderator: Ken Bator, Podcast Magazine

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We revisit the Oregon coast to take a second look at the disappearance of Kami Vollendroff and Gene Hyatt, and discuss the case with Kami's cousin and best friend. Then we head north to Olympia, to start a deep-dive into a very similar case with eerie ties to Israel Keyes.

This episode was written, produced, and researched by Josh Hallmark.
Research assistant by Ben Lamb, Shana Wilensky, Michelle Tooker, Andrew French, Kim K, and Kaz.
This episodes features: Shelly Skelton and Emilee Rutten.

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Resources:

• You’re Wrong About: Wayfair and Human Trafficking Statistics | https://www.buzzsprout.com/1112270/4927280-wayfair-and-human-trafficking-statistics
• You’re Wrong About: Human Trafficking | https://www.buzzsprout.com/1112270/3883928-human-trafficking
• Tri-County Times: How sex trafficking actually happens | https://www.tctimes.com/news/how-sex-trafficking-actually-happens-sixty-two-percent-of-victims-fall-prey-to-what-police/article_b31a57ea-cbc7-11e7-ad2c-2b1536903b57.html

Patreon producers: Alexa Horn, Amy Basil, Benjamin Cioppa-Fong, Casey Jensen-Richardson, Dana Keith, Dr. Jill Cooper, Drew Vipond, Hallie Reed, Jessica Alihodzic, Jillian Natale, John O'Leary, Kendall C, Kimberly K, Lauren F, Lindsay Kurtis, Lynnlie Tuschoff, Manolis Boukolus, Meggan Capps-Seawel, Sara C, SC, Shannon Foster, Shelly Brewer, Tuesdi Woodworth, Zack Ignatowicz Warren, and Lydia Fiedler.

Music by:

William Hellfire, Lee Rosevere, David James Terry, Jameson Nathan Jones, Itai Argaman, Aquartos, Eleven Tales, Sergey Cheremisinov, James Forest.

Featured song: Edge of the Ocean by IVY

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An old story from a new perspective gives Josh and the team new information, new leads, and credence to many of their theories and investigative paths.

This episode was written, produced, and researched by Josh Hallmark.
With additional research by Ben Lamb and Kaz.

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Resources:

• The News & Observer: https://www.newsobserver.com/news/nation-world/national/article268138027.html

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Music by:

William Hellfire, Radical Face, Sergey Cheremisinov, Whithe, and Amulets.

Featured song: Down in a Rabbit Hole by Bright Eyes

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New files, new audio, a new source, new partnerships, and a trek out to the Olympic Peninsula heat up the investigation into Israel Keyes.

This episode was written, produced, and researched by Josh Hallmark.
With additional research by Ben Lamb and Kaz.

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Resources:
• The Guardian: https://www.theguardian.com/science/2020/jan/16/bring-up-the-bodies-gene-sandy-ralston-drowning-victims-sonar

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Music by:

William Hellfire, Radical Face, Lee Rosevere, Sergey Cheremisinov, Beneath the Mountain, Yehezkal Raz, Eleven Tales, Sero, Jameson Nathan Jones, Itai Argaman, and John Gegelman

Featured song: All Mirrors by Angel Olsen

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Season 5 premieres on October 27.

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A reunion between long-lost friends ends in multiple homicides and disappearances spanning a 3,500 mile roadtrip.

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This episode was written and researched by Michelle Tooker.
With production, editing, and additional research by Josh Hallmark.

Patreon producers: Alexa Horn, Amy Basil, Benjamin Cioppa-Fong, Casey Jensen-Richardson, Christina Sisson, Dana Keith, Drew Vipond, Hallie Reed, Jessica Alihodzic, Jillian Natale, John O’Leary, Kendall C, Kharisma R, Kimberly K, Lauren F, Lindsay Kurtis, Maegan, Manolis Boulukos, Meggan Capps-Seawel, Sara C, SC, Shannon Foster, Shelly Brewer, Tuesdi Woodworth, Zack Ignatowicz Warren, Lydia Fiedler.

Music by:
Buddha Kid, Borrtex, and Yehezkal Rez
Featured song: Daughter by Ben Noble

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A missing persons case shines a light on domestic abuse and some lingering questions about Keyes’s attention to the Sunshine State.

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Music by:
Buddha Kid, Shahead Monstafafar, and Yehezkal Rez
Featured song: Black and Blue by Luna Keller

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A college student leaves work and is never seen again. The ongoing investigation leads authorities to the beach, a notorious serial killer, a polarizing figure in forensics, and an odd phone call regarding a gay affair gone wrong.

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This episode was written and researched by Shana Wilensky.
Production, editing, and additional research by Josh Hallmark.

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Music by:

Buddha Kid, We Dream of Eden, Moment of Now, Yotam Agam, Be Still the Earth, Josh Leake, and Tamuz Dekel

Featured song: Meet Me on the Beach by James Forest

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Rumors swirl after a teenager disappears from an Atlanta-area nightclub. And with thousands of possible witnesses and over 20 outgoing phone calls, not a single shred of evidence is ever recovered.

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This episode was written and researched by Michelle Tooker.
With production, editing, and additional research by Josh Hallmark.

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Music by:

The David Roy Collective, Buddha Kid, We Dream of Eden, Moment of Now, Yotam Agam, Be Still the Earth, Josh Leake, and Tamuz Dekel

Featured song: Flux by Harry Keyworth

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When a mother disappears, the FBI give a strange level of autonomy over the investigation to an informant and ex-con; a judgment call that would prove disastrous.

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This episode was written and researched by Shana Wilensky.
With production, editing, and additional research by Josh Hallmark.

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Music by:

The David Roy Collective, Buddha Kid, We Dream of Eden, Moment of Now, Yotam Agam, Be Still the Earth, Josh Leake, and Tamuz Dekel

Featured song: Safe by Russo & Weinberg

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Racism and tunnel-vision plague an investigation into the disappearance of a 7-year-old girl, whose case would eventually make its way to Keyes's computer.

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Music by:

The David Roy Collective, Buddha Kid, We Dream of Eden, Moment of Now, Yotam Agam, Be Still the Earth, Josh Leake, and Tamuz Dekel

Featured song: River in the Rain by James Forest

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A NAMUS-44 case out of Tennessee involving an alleged coerced confession of one man, and a plea deal with and tenuous story from another, leaves Josh unsettled.

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This is the third episode of an eight episode miniseries, written and researched by TCB researchers Shana Wilensky and Michelle Tooker. This series will run in-between seasons of True Crime Bullshit, and will focus on missing persons cases included in the NAMUS-44. Season 6 of True Crime Bullshit: The Story of Israel Keyes will return in early Autumn.

This episode was written and researched by Shana Wilensky.

With production, editing, and additional research by Josh Hallmark.

Patreon producers: Alexa Horn, Amy Basil, Casey Jensen-Richardson, Christina Sisson, Drew Vipond, Hallie Reed, Harrison Bequette, Jessica Alihodzic, Jillian Natale, John O’Leary, Kendall C, Kharisma R, Kimberly K, Lauren F, Lindsay Kurtis, Maegan, Manolis Boulukos, Meggan Capps-Seawel, Melissa Deveaux, Sara C, SC, Shannon Foster, Shelly Brewer, Tuesdi Woodworth, Zack Ignatowicz Warren, Lydia Fiedler.

Music by:

The David Roy Collective, Buddha Kid, We Dream of Eden, Moment of Now, Yotam Agam, Be Still the Earth, Josh Leake, and Tamuz Dekel

Featured song: Fields by Andrew Word

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A NAMUS-44 case out of Ohio is plagued by Runaway Syndrome, misinformation, and media frenzy.

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This is the second episode of an eight episode miniseries, written and researched by TCB researchers Shana Wilensky and Michelle Tooker. This series will run in-between seasons of True Crime Bullshit, and will focus on missing persons cases included in the NAMUS-44. Season 6 of True Crime Bullshit: The Story of Israel Keyes will return in early Autumn.

This episode was written and researched by Michelle Tooker.
With production, editing, and additional research by Josh Hallmark.

Patreon producers: Alexa Horn, Amy Basil, Casey Jensen-Richardson, Christina Sisson, Drew Vipond, Hallie Reed, Harrison Bequette, Jessica Alihodzic, Jillian Natale, John O’Leary, Kendall C, Kharisma R, Kimberly K, Lauren F, Lindsay Kurtis, Maegan, Manolis Boulukos, Meggan Capps-Seawel, Melissa Deveaux, Sara C, SC, Shannon Foster, Shelly Brewer, Tuesdi Woodworth, Zack Ignatowicz Warren, Lydia Fiedler.

Music by:

The David Roy Collective, Buddha Kid, We Dream of Eden, Moment of Now, Yotam Agam, Be Still the Earth, Josh Leake, and Tamuz Dekel

Featured song: From the Silent by Maygen Lacey

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This is the first episode of an eight episode miniseries, written and researched by TCB researchers Shana Wilensky and Michelle Tooker. This series will run in-between seasons of True Crime Bullshit, and will focus on missing persons cases included in the NAMUS-44. Season 6 of True Crime Bullshit: The Story of Israel Keyes will return in early Autumn.

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This episode was written and researched by Shana Wilensky.
With production, editing, and additional research by Josh Hallmark.

Patreon producers: Alexa Horn, Amy Basil, Ashley Gressley, Casey Jensen-Richardson, Chelsea Collings, Christina Sisson, Dana Keith, Drew Vipond, Hallie Reed, Harrison Bequette, Jessica Alihodzic, Jillian Natale, John O'Leary, Kharisma Rodriguez, Kimberly K, Lauren F, Lindsay Kurtis, Maegan, Manolis Boukolus, Meggan Capps-Seawel, Melissa Deveaux, SC, Shannon Foster, Shelly Brewer, Tuesdi Woodworth, Zack Ignatowicz Warren, and Lydia Fiedler.

Music by:

The David Roy Collective, Buddha Kid, We Dream of Eden, Moment of Now, Yotam Agam, Be Still the Earth, and Tamuz Dekel

Featured song: Together Again by Claire Kelly

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Season finale.

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This episode was written, produced, and researched by Josh Hallmark.
With additional research by Shana Wilensky, Michelle Tooker, Andrew French, and Kaz.

Patreon producers: Alexa Horn, Amy Basil, Ashley Gressley, Casey Jensen-Richardson, Chelsea Collings, Christina Sisson, Dana Keith, Drew Vipond, Hallie Reed, Harrison Bequette, Jessica Alihodzic, Jillian Natale, John O'Leary, Kharisma Rodriguez, Kimberly K, Lauren F, Lindsay Kurtis, Maegan, Manolis Boukolus, Meggan Capps-Seawel, Melissa Deveaux, SC, Shannon Foster, Shelly Brewer, Tuesdi Woodworth, Zack Ignatowicz Warren, and Lydia Fiedler.

Music by:

William Hellfire, Radical Face, Lee Rosevere, Lance Conrad, SPEARFISHER, and Sergey Cheremisinov.

Featured song: Unraveling by Frances Cone

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New data and dates from data breaches provide new insight into old cases and rule out others. New information sheds light on other Keyes activities. And Israel's past unravels and emerges.

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And research assistance by Shana Wilensky and Andrew French.

Patreon producers: Alexa Horn, Amy Basil, Ashley Gressley, Casey Jensen-Richardson, Chelsea Collings, Christina Sisson, Dana Keith, Drew Vipond, Hallie Reed, Harrison Bequette, Jessica Alihodzic, Jillian Natale, John O'Leary, Kharisma Rodriguez, Kimberly K, Lauren F, Lindsay Kurtis, Maegan, Manolis Boukolus, Meggan Capps-Seawel, Melissa Deveaux, SC, Shannon Foster, Shelly Brewer, Tuesdi Woodworth, Zack Ignatowicz Warren, and Lydia Fiedler.

Music by:
William Hellfire, Radical Face, Lee Rosevere, and Sergey Cheremisinov.
Featured song: The House that Jack Built by Jesca Hoop

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The Israel Keyes data breaches take us to some strange and surprising places, and quite the 'Oh, Shit' moment in Texas.

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And research assistance by Shana Wilensky and Kaz.

Patreon producers: Alexa Horn, Amy Basil, Ashley Gressley, Casey Jensen-Richardson, Chelsea Collings, Christina Sisson, Dana Keith, Drew Vipond, Hallie Reed, Harrison Bequette, Jennifer, Jessica Alihodzic, Jillian Natale, John O'Leary, Kimberly K, Lauren F, Lindsay Kurtis, Maegan M., Manolis Boukolus, Meggan Capps-Seawel, Shannon Foster, Shelly Brewer, Tuesdi Woodworth, Zack Ignatowicz Warren, Megan Birch, SC, and Lydia Fiedler.

Music by:
William Hellfire, Radical Face, Lee Rosevere, and Sergey Cheremisinov.
Featured song: Hide & Seek by The Polarity

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In an ever-evolving world, there is less and less safety in experience.

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And research assistance by Andrew French and Kaz.

Patreon producers: Alexa Horn, Amy Basil, Ashley Gressley, Casey Jensen-Richardson, Chelsea Collings, Christina Sisson, Dana Keith, Drew Vipond, Hallie Reed, Harrison Bequette, Jennifer, Jessica Alihodzic, Jillian Natale, John O'Leary, Kimberly K, Lauren F, Lindsay Kurtis, Maegan M., Manolis Boukolus, Meggan Capps-Seawel, Shannon Foster, Shelly Brewer, Tuesdi Woodworth, Zack Ignatowicz Warren, and Lydia Fiedler.

Music by:
William Hellfire, Radical Face, Jimmy Svensson, Tamuz Dekel, Shahead Monstafafar, and Lee Rosevere.

Featured song: Born in the Internet Age by Team Callahan

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We take a close look at the Las Vegas disappearance of Steven Koecher, and whether Keyes could have been involved. Plus, how the media shaped and impacted the cases of both Steven Koecher and Susan Powell.

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Music by:

William Hellfire, Radical Face, Sergey Cheremisinov, Curtis Cole, Jimmy Svensson, Tamuz Dekel, Josh McClausland, Shahead Monstafafar, and Lee Rosevere

Featured song: Shouldn't Have Met You by Harry Keyworth

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In the Mojave Desert, we take a look at a Jane Doe, a missing person's case with multiple ties to Keyes and several of his hotspots, and a fairly high profile disappearance in Las Vegas.

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Music by:
William Hellfire, Ann Annie, Asher Fulero, Sergey Cheremisinov, Puddle of Infinity, Coyote Hearing, Lee Rosevere

Featured song: Run by Jordana Talsky

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The Phoenix-Riverside-Vegas triangle is examined, with a deep-dive into a missing person's case that eerily lines up with Keyes's MO and travel patterns.

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With research assistance by Andrew French, Shana Wilensky, Michelle Tooker, and Becca Cline.

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Music by:

William Hellfire
Amulets
Kai Engel
Ashley Fulero
Kevin MacLeod
Chris Zabriskie
Radical Face

Featured song: Your Prisons Are Home by The Coral Sea

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Josh and Dr. Chris Kunkle deep-dive Keyes's patterns, behaviors, tells, and other psych factors that could be key to identifying his victims and other crimes; including a look at the NAMUS-44 (with updates), Keyes's yawns and laughing, Drano, Kunkle's take on "taking people," and a well-known disappearance Josh should take a second look at.

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Written, produced, and hosted by Josh Hallmark
Featuring: Dr. Christopher Kunkle

Music by: William Hellfire, Lee Rosevere, Puddle of Infinity, Sergey Cheremisinov, and All These Places

Patreon producers: Alexa Horn, Amy Basil, Casey Jensen-Richardson, Chelsea Collings, Christina Sisson, Dana Keith, Drew Vipond, Hallie Reed, Harrison Bequette, Jennifer, Jessica Alihodzic, Jillian Natale, John O’Leary, Kimberly K, Lauren F, Maegan, Meggan Capps-Seawel, Shannon Foster, Shelly Brewer, Tanya Silva, Tuesdi Woodworth, Zack Ignatowicz Warren, and Lydia Fiedler

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"Everything I've done... it's all connected."

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This episode was written, produced, and researched by Josh Hallmark.
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Music by:

William Hellfire
Kyle Preston
LaBon
Aaron Kellim
Phototaxis
Radical Face

Featured song: Holding Steady by Kashka

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Keyes gets caught in a very big lie - unfortunately, not by the FBI. And a deep dive into two caches, provides a significant amount of insight into all of Keyes's caches, crimes they're likely connected to, and where we can find them.

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This episode features Andrew French and Adam Saunders.

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Music by:

William Hellfire
Chad Crouch
Sergey Cheremisinov
LaBon
Kai Engel
Massimo Ruberti

Featured song: Couldn't Have Done the Killing by Marissa Nadler

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There are many references in interviews with Keyes, his friends and family, and in his favorite media to car accidents. An alleged car accident out of the late 90s in Washington state that makes no sense whatsoever, seems to line up in quite a few ways with Israel Keyes. Josh and French head down to Morton, Washington to investigate. And a book found in Israel Keyes's shed sheds light on a lot of his known criminal behavior.

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And research assistance by Becca McKinney, Shana Wilensky, Michelle Tooker, and Kaz.
This episode features Andrew French and Adam Saunders.
Patreon producers: Alexa Horn, Amy Basil, Casey Jensen-Richardson, Chelsea Collings, Christina Sisson, Dana Keith, Drew Vipond, Hallie Reed, Harrison Bequette, Jennifer, Jessica Alihodzic, Jillian Natale, Kimberly, Lauren F, Maegan M., Meggan Capps-Seawel, Shannon Foster, Shelly Brewer, Tuesdi Woodworth, Zack Ignatowicz Warren, and Lydia Fiedler

Music by:
William Hellfire
Puddle of Infinity
Amulets
Chris Zabriskie
Fields of Ohio
Blear Moon

Featured song: Headlights by Squirrel Flower

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We take a very close look at Keyes's use of his victims' cars to both muddle investigations and both figuratively and literally create distance between himself and his crimes. We revisit previously investigated cases - with new insight; and explore new cases all across the country.

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This episode was written, produced, and researched by Josh Hallmark.
With additional research by Andrew French, Shana Wilensky, Michelle Tooker, and Kaz.
This episode featured Dr. Chris Kunkle and Bobby Chacon.

Patreon producers:
Alexa Horn
Amy Basil
Casey Jensen-Richardson
Chelsea Collings
Christina Sisson
Ellen Haines Chaponis
Dana Keith
Drew Vipond
Hallie Reed
Harrison Bequette
Jessica Alihodzic
Jillian Natale
Kimberly
Meggan Capps-Seawel
Shannon Foster
Shelly Brewer
Tuesdi Woodworth
Zack Ignatowicz Warren
Lydia Fiedler

Music by:
William Hellfire
LaBon
Sergey Cheremisinov
Radical Face

Featured song: Hatchet by Anni Rossi

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The look into the disappearance of Karen Adams continues; taking a close look at Keyes's history, habits, and comfort zones - and how they relate strikingly to the Karen Adams case.
CORRECTION: Brianna Maitland was last seen LEAVING the parking lot of the Black Lantern Inn and not IN the parking lot.

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With additional research by Andrew French and Shana Wilensky;
and research assistance by Michelle Tooker and Kaz.

This episode featured Dr. Chris Kunkle and Adam Saunders.

Patreon producers:
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Amy Basil
Casey Jensen-Richardson
Chelsea Collings
Christina Sisson
Ellen Haines Chaponis
Dana Keith
Drew Vipond
Hallie Reed
Harrison Bequette
Jessica Alihodzic
Jillian Natale
Kimberly
Meggan Capps-Seawel
Shannon Foster
Shelly Brewer
Tuesdi Woodworth
Zack Ignatowicx Warren
Lydia Fiedler

Music by:

William Hellfire
LaBon
Kevin MacLeod
Sergey Cheremisinov
Kai Engel

Featured song: I'll Understand by Roza

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A first look into the disappearance of Karen Adams involves media disparities among the missing, multiple jurisdictions, cell towers and pings, alleged investigation stonewalling, and some very suspicious behavior from Keyes. Plus, an oversight in the FBI files places Keyes somewhere he shouldn't be.

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With additional research by Andrew French and Shana Wilensky;
and research assistance by Michelle Tooker and Kaz.

Research sources include:
The Charley Project
NAMUS
The Ellwood City Ledger
KTVB News 7
The US Census
The Pittsburgh Post Gazette

This episode featured Becca McKinney.

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Amy Basil
Chelsea Collings
Christina Sisson
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Dana Keith
Drew Vipond
Hallie Reed
Jessica Alihodzic
Jillian Natale
Kimberly
Meggan Capps-Seawel
Shelly
Tuesdi Woodworth
Zack Ignatowicx Warren
Lydia Fiedler

Music by:
William Hellfire
Sergey Cheremisinov
Kai Engel
Featured song: 2nd World by HVOB

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An eerie encounter with Keyes catapults us into a close look at Keyes's activity in Pennsylvania, some emerging patterns with the NAMUS-44, a possible kill kit, and our first look at a missing persons case that has come up each season, but hasn't gotten a proper deep-dive yet.

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Research sources include:
• The Charley Project
• NAMUS
• The Ellwood City Ledger
• The Intelligencer - Wheeling News-Register

This episode featured Dr. Chris Kunkle and the Hawk Mountain Witness (Lisa)

This episode included music by:
• William Hellfire
• Radical Face
• Whithe
• Sergey Cheremisinov
• Kai Engel
Featured song: "Pushin' Against a Stone" by Valerie June

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"I heard it on a podcast." The season 5 premiere takes us to the woods of Maine.

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With additional research by Michelle Tooker, and research assistance by Shana Wilensky

Research sources include:
• The Charley Project
• NAMUS
• The Bangor Daily News
• The Doe Network
ª The Sierra Club

This episode features Sydney Copp and Dr. Chris Kunkle.

And includes music by:
• William Hellfire (Possess)
• Sergey Cheremisinov
• Kai Engel
• Radical Face
• Lee Rosevere

Featured song: 17 Pounds by Sarah Klang

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Josh is joined by journalist and writer Clemence Michallon to discuss the upcoming season and answer listener questions. Topics include: cases to be covered, research practices, Boca Raton, marathons, Keyes's attorneys, field trips, ethics, and more.


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In 2018, I produced a series of episodes about an HIV epidemic in Austin, Indiana. This interlude in that series is my own personal story. It was recorded in a single take, with minimal editing. I was significantly more anxious sharing it this time than I was originally. The upside is it feels so far away, because life is so much better now.
CW: Rape, HIV, Alcohol abuse.

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A town, its trolls, and the public reading of a banned book.
This episode first aired in June of 2017.

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A woman's intense and personal story of addiction is told through several late night phone memos. And an update on Gold River, BC.
This episode first aired in July of 2017.

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The story of Luna the Whale and Gold River, BC continues.

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Five years ago today, I released my very first podcast episode. To celebrate the milestone, every few weeks during the hiatus, I'll be sharing some of my favorite episodes I've produced.
"Luna the Whale" was the 9th episode from my first podcast, Our Americana. It premiered back in 2016, and while my tech and editing abilities have evolved, the story is as powerful and heartfelt as ever.

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"I'm like a dog, always barking at a ghost."

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Written, researched, and produced by Josh Hallmark.
This episode was made possible by Patreon producers: Alexa H, Amy B, Chelsea C, Dana K, Jessica A, Kimberly, Jillian N, Milan to Minsk

With additional research by Becca Cline, Shana Wilensky, Michelle Tooker, and Andrew French.

This episode features: Andrew French, Michelle Tooker, Shana Wilensky, Becca Cline, Dr. Chris Kunkle, Dr. Katherine Ramsland, and Bobby Chacon

Music by: William Hellfire, Whithe, Sergey Cheremisinov, Ann Annie and Lia Ices featuring Bon Iver.

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New information about Keyes, his activity, and James Lamar Tidwell, causes us to revisit the second half of Keyes' February 2012 trip to Texas, following his time in Louisiana and at sea. And at least one piece of very compelling physical evidence emerges.

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Written, researched, and produced by Josh Hallmark.
Featuring: Andrew French
With additional research by Becca Cline, Shana Wilensky, Michelle Tooker, Andrew French, Michelle Kaszuba, and Michelle 3.

Music by: William Hellfire, Whithe, Lee Rosevere, Lobo Loco, Radical Face, Chad Crouch, Chris Haugen, and DYAN.

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A recently publicized cemetery encounter with a man believed to be Israel Keyes is explored; and it leads us to the Deep South, a missing person, and some new answers to some old questions.

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Written, researched, and produced by Josh Hallmark.
Featuring: Christina & Dr. Katherine Ramsland
With research assistance by Becca Cline, Shana Wilensky, Michelle Tooker, Andrew French and Michelle Kaszuba.

Music by: William Hellfire, Whithe, Lee Rosevere, Lobo Loco, Radical Face, Chad Crouch, Chris Haugen, Amulets, and Soap&Skin.

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After new leads, new contacts, further investigation, and surprising revelations, we follow-up on the Suzy Lyall case and its increasing connections to Israel Keyes.

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Written, researched, and produced by Josh Hallmark.
Featuring Dr. Chris Kunkle
With research assistance by Becca Cline, Shana Wilensky, Michelle Tooker, Andrew French and Michelle Kaszuba.

Music by: William Hellfire, Whithe, Lee Rosevere, Serge Cheremisinov, Chris Zabriskie, Borrtex, and Russ Hiddleston & Robert Smith Jr.



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New information about Keyes and his whereabouts sheds new light on an old case. Plus, Keyes gets caught in a few lies about his kill kits.

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Written, researched, and produced by Josh Hallmark.
With additional research by Becca Cline, Shana Wilensky and Michelle Tooker;
research assistance by Andrew French and Michelle Kaszuba.

Resources include:

The Charley Project
NAMUS
The Burlington Free Press
The Sentinel Source
The Rutland Daily Herald
CommonsNews.org; AND
Reformer.com //

Music by: William Hellfire, Laura Sheeran, Amulets, Whithe, Lee Rosevere and Daniel Birch, Chris Zabriskie, Puddle of Infinity, and Radical Face //

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A comparison of known online comments made by Israel Keyes to online comments about potential Keyes victims leads us to Johnstown, New York and some strong leads and startling conclusions. // **Correction: A slip of the tongue resulted in me describing the Marshalls encounter as an "alleged attack" instead of an "attempted attack." Audio will be updated.

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Written, researched, and produced by Josh Hallmark.
With additional research by Shana Wilensky and Michelle Tooker;
research assistance by Andrew French and Michelle Kaszuba.

Resources include:
• The Charley Project
• NAMUS
• Hood River News
• Websleuths

Music by: William Hellfire, Whithe, Lee Rosevere, Chris Zabriskie, Josef van Wissem, Westy Reflector, Underbelly and Ty Mayer, Kevin MacLeod, and Radical Face //

Featured song: Cloud Blood by Ani Difranco

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The Everett Doe leads us back to the case of Khoi Dang Vu, which in turn leads us to some very big revelations about Keyes and his number of victims.

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Written, researched, and produced by Josh Hallmark.
With research by Andrew French, Shana Wilensky, Michelle Tooker, and Michelle Kaszuba.

Resources include:
• The Charley Project
• NAMUS
• The Peninsula Daily News
• The Statesman Journal
• www.eastoregonian.com
• Websleuths

Music by: William Hellfire, Whithe, Lee Rosevere, LaBon, Chris Zabriskie, Sergey Cheremisinov, Kai Engel, and Radical Face

Featured song: Tapes by The Weather Station

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We take a look at the final three Washington State Doe cases and possible missing persons matches. The investigations take us back to Fort Lewis, trailheads, Mormon churches, abandoned houses, the NAMUS-44, and the Washington-Oregon state line; setting us up for a very fast-paced and information dense second half of the season.

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Written, researched, and produced by Josh Hallmark.
With research by Andrew French and Michelle Kaszuba, and research assistance by Michelle Tooker and Shana Wilensky.

Resources include: NAMUS, The Charley Project, The Redmond Reporter, Strange Outdoors, Oregon Live, KZLY-TV, and The Guardian

Music by: William Hellfire, Blear Moon, Lee Rosevere, Puddle of Infinity, Chris Zabriskie, Sergey Cheremisinov, and Art in Manila

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A Jane Doe, recovered from an Army base Keyes was stationed on, sends us on a strange journey back to Sacramento, California. A possible new pattern surrounding Keyes's bank robberies emerges, and several critical tidbits of information are laid out.

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With research by Andrew French and Michelle Kaszuba, and research assistance by Michelle Tooker and Shana Wilensky.

Resources include: NAMUS, The Charley Project, The Press Democrat, NBC Philadelphia, and The Sacramento Bee

Music by: William Hellfire, Ann Annie, Lee Rosevere, Puddle of Infinity, Amulets, Chris Zabriskie, Sergey Cheremisinov, and On An On

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The investigation into Washington state Does continues, leading us to some familiar missing persons cases, and 3 very likely Keyes victims.

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Written, researched, and produced by Josh Hallmark.
Featuring: Andrew French
With research by Andrew French and Michelle Kaszuba, and research assistance by Michelle Tooker and Shana Wilensky.

Resources include: NAMUS, The Charley Project, The Peninsula Daily News, and Missing and The Seattle Times

Music by: William Hellfire, Lee Rosevere, Puddle of Infinity, Amulets, Radical Face, Sergey Cheremisinov, and Jenn Grant

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The investigations into Giovanna Tyler and Steven Mike Mason lead us to several Washing state Does, and that opens up a deep-dive into the 78 still-unidentified remains found in Washington state since Keyes's time in the Army.

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Written, researched, and produced by Josh Hallmark.
Featuring: Andrew French & Michelle Kaszuba (Private Investigations for the Missing: https://investigationsforthemissing.org)
With research by Andrew French and Michelle Kaszuba, and research assistance by Andrew French and Shana Wilensky.

Music by: William Hellfire, Lee Rosevere, Puddle of Infinity, Amulets, Radical Face, Sergey Cheremisinov, and Joseph Arthur

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A disappearance from neighboring tribal lands, with an eerie litany of coincidences to Keyes's known MO and crimes, makes it both impossible to overlook Keyes nor how this disappearance may have inspired future crimes.

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Written, researched, and produced by Josh Hallmark.
With research by Michelle Tooker, and research assistance by Andrew French and Shana Wilensky.

Music by: William Hellfire, Lee Rosevere, Puddle of Infinity, Esther Abrami, Radical Face, Chris Zabriskie, and Jacob Fossum

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This episode takes a detailed look at the bizarre disappearance of Steven "Mike" Mason, told through the witness statements from the last six people to see him. Drunk witnesses, timeline discrepancies, strange findings, and multiple thefts create a convoluted crime scene, that still somehow has eerie similarities to Israel Keyes.

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Written, researched, and produced by Josh Hallmark. Research assistance by Becca Cline, Andrew French, Michelle Tooker, Shana Wilensky, and Michelle Kaszuba.

Music by: William Hellfire, Lee Rosevere, Sergey Cheremisinov, Amulets, LaBon, Komiku, and Tu Fawning

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Keyes's mythology is deconstructed by looking closely at his time in Neah Bay, and three area disappearances; including a polarizing case with haunting connections to Keyes.

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Written, researched, and produced by Josh Hallmark. Research assistance by Andrew French, Michelle Tooker, Shana Wilensky, and Michelle Kaszuba.

Resources include: NAMUS, The Charley Project, Pierce County Superior Court, The Peninsula Daily News, and Missing and Murdered Native Americans.

Music by: William Hellfire, Lee Rosevere, Sergey Cheremisinov, Amulets, Whithe, and Radical Face Featured music: TORRES

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New revelations shed light on Keyes's early years. And we take a look at 3 unsolved homicides that occurred in Colville, while Keyes was living nearby.

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Written, researched, and produced by Josh Hallmark. Research assistance by Andrew French, Michelle Tooker, and Shana Wilensky.

Resources include: NAMUS, The Charley Project, The Spokesman-Review, and KHQ.com.

Music by: William Hellfire, YVEN, Sergey Cheremisinov, Amulets, LaBon, Radical Face, Whithe, and Houses.

PROGRAMMING NOTE: My mic broke halfway through recording this episode. Please forgive the volume and audio shift that occurs halfway through.

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Information from Keyes's psych evaluation, and a revelation regarding Kimberly's brother, shine a light on how Keyes was able to exploit the people in his life in order to fly under the radar. And we take a look at a string of crimes in Modesto and Southern California.

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Written, researched, and produced by Josh Hallmark. Research assistance by Thom Brown, Michelle Kaszuba, Andrew French, Michelle Tooker, and Shana Wilensky.

Resources include: NAMUS, The Charley Project, The FAA, Flight Aware, The Modesto Bee, and The Lompoc Recorder.

Music by: William Hellfire, Amulets, LaBon, Radical Face, Whithe, Sergey Cheremisinov, Lee Rosevere, Underbelly and Ty Mayer

Featured song: "Fall Hard" by Heather Woods Broderick

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A close examination of the FBI's timeline, and some of its failures, sheds new light on Israel Keyes's travels. Analysis of a trip to Seattle and Sacramento, leads us somewhere else entirely. And in Sacramento, a bombshell awaits.

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Written, researched, edited, and produced by Josh Hallmark.
Research assistance by Becca Cline, Andrew French, Michelle Tooker, and Shana Wilensky.

Resources include: NAMUS.gov, CharleyProject.org, the FAA, and The Press-Enterprise

Music:
• Poses by William Hellfire
• Procession by Puddle of Infinty
• Desert Catharsis by Asher Fulero
• Maestro Tlakaelel by Jesse Gallagher
• Sleepers by Sergey Cheremisinov
• Ashes in the Wind by Radical Face

Featured song: Little Brother by Elk City

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New tips, sources, cold cases, and revelations take Josh back into the story of Israel Keyes. In the season premiere, Josh heads to Upstate New York and stumbles upon what may just be the key to finding Keyes's kill kits and his victims.

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Written, researched, edited, and produced by Josh Hallmark.
Research assistance by Becca Cline, Andrew French, Michelle Kaszuba, Michelle Tooker, and Shana Wilensky.

Resources include: NAMUS.gov, CharleyProject.org, and Jezebel.com/the-wind-moans-a-door-creaks-its-time-for-jezebels-an-1845229761

Music:
• Poses by William Hellfire
• No. 8 Requiem by Esther Abrami
• Hard to Let Go of Grammar by pATCHES
• The Quiet Aftermath by Sir Cubworth
• Sleepers by Sergey Cheremisinov
• Ashes by Radical Face
• His Grinning Skull by Wild Beasts

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True Crime Bullsh** returns on November 12, 2020.

Written, Produced, and Researched by: Josh Hallmark
Featuring: Michelle Kaszuba, Becca Cline, and Shana Wilensky
Music by: Radical Face, Sergey Cheremisinov, William Hellfire, and Anna Calvi

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How deep is this hole I'm in?

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Sources: The Charley Project, NAMUS, USA Today, Refinery 29

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We examine Israel Keyes's ability to be both nowhere and anywhere, and how he may have used that to conceal his crimes.

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The lies Israel Keyes told paint a picture of what exactly he was trying to hide. And that trip to Hunters strangely leads us back to a familiar case.

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Josh hits a roadblock, hits the road, and hits on some gold in the investigation of Israel Keyes.

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Lanie & Josh discuss all things Israel Keyes, and Josh answers some listener questions.

PLUS, Josh discusses his new favorite true crime podcast: Detective Trapp
Anaheim investigator Julissa Trapp is not like other detectives. She’s the only woman on the homicide squad, and a skilled chameleon: undercover cop in vice stings, crime-scene commander, patient confidante of killers. A master interrogator, she invokes her personal experience – and deepest griefs -- as a tool to elicit confessions. When a young woman’s body is found at a trash-sorting plant, Trapp learns the murder may be linked to the disappearance of three other women in nearby Santa Ana. Trapp embarks on a dark journey that brings her face to face with a man who takes “a little piece of her soul.”
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We take a look at Keyes's strange history with cars and missing people, including two infamous disappearances that happened within Keyes's hotspots, and a re-examination of one of his murders.

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Music by William Hellfire, Radical Face, LaBon, Sergey Cheremisinov, and On an On.
Sources: The Charley Project, NAMUS, Missing Maura Murray, and Crawlspace

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A pattern emerges from various eye witness reports, new information is revealed, we return to the suicide note, and Israel Keyes gets a whole lot scarier.

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Music by William Hellfire, Radical Face, Lee Rosevere, and Sergey Cheremisinov.
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The revelations from episode 0208 redefine how we look at Keyes, his travels, and his MO.

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Music by William Hellfire, Radial Face, LaBon, Sergey Cheremisinov, Whithe, and Talos
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Eye witness reports and tips shed more light on whether Keyes stalked his victims. And some newfound information changes everything we thought we knew about Keyes's MO, and possibly rips the entire case wide open.

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Music by William Hellfire, Radial Face, LaBon, Sergey Cheremisinov, Ian Alex Mac, and Beverley Karen

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In his final three years in Alaska, Keyes starts to lose control. New patterns in his MO and behaviors start to emerge. And several shocking revelations about the Samantha Koenig abduction are made.

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Music by William Hellfire, Radial Face, LaBon, Sergey Cheremisinov, and Dusty Springfield

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We continue our exploration of Keyes's time in Alaska and how Kimberly may have impacted his crimes there.

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Music by William Hellfire, Radial Face, LaBon, and Westy Reflector.

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We take a look at Alaska and what makes it such a dangerous place, before diving into how Keyes may have contributed to that danger.

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Written, researched, edited, and produced by Josh Hallmark
Music by William Hellfire, Radial Face, LaBon, and Panama
Promo: Crimelines

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An off-the-cuff statement from Israel has us investigating border security, missing sex workers, and Missing & Murdered Indigenous Women in Canada.

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Music by William Hellfire, Radial Face, Sergey Cheremisinov, Whithe, Lee Rosevere, LaBon, and Daughter
Promo: Mugshot

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Israel's travels and cell writings have us investigating abroad, and possibly answering a big question about his travel anomalies, while also stumbling upon new questions.

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Music by William Hellfire, Radial Face, Sergey Cheremisinov, Whithe, Blear Moon, and LaBon
Promo: Fool Me Twice

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In this episode we use Israel Keyes's known victims to make sense of some of the NAMUS-44, and how his search terms might help us determine which of those 44 could be unknown victims of his. Plus, a weird rental car pattern emerges, and Keyes goes to Belize.

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Music by William Hellfire, Radial Face, Sergey Cheremisinov, Whithe, and Lee Rosevere.

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In the season two premiere, Josh reveals some previously undisclosed information regarding Israel Keyes's death, as he sets the table for the season to come. The 44 missing people found on Israel's computer are revealed and discussed, as is Keyes's entire travel history. Then Josh gives a high level overview of the FBI's investigation into missing indigenous people who may be linked to Keyes.

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Music by William Hellfire, Radical Face, Sergey Cheremisinov, Whithe, and Lee Rosevere.

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In season 2, we'll take everything we learned in season 1 and use it to investigate Keyes, his travels, and his potential victims.

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I don't want your voice to move me.

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Music by William Hellfire, Radial Face, Whithe, Ian Alex Mac, Keaton Henson, and Karyyn.
Voice work: Chris Braaten of the More Gooder Than podcast & Michel Roy of the Between Us Girls podcast
Interview clip with Bobby Chacon


Sources: Devil in the Darkness by JT Hunter

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Israel Keyes's tumultuous 9 months in jail are chronicled.

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We investigate a possible first Keyes' victim, Suzy Lyall, who disappeared in 1998 from Albany, New York.

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Featuring: Bobby Chacon & Katherine Ramsland

Music by William Hellfire, Radial Face, Sergey Cheremisinov, Whithe, Kirk Pearson & BIT, and Russ Huddleston & Robert Smith Jr.

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We explore Israel's travels in Texas, using all we've learned thus far about his MO and patterns of behavior, to determine his final victim.

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Music by William Hellfire, Radial Face, Sergey Cheremisinov, The Hathaway Family Plot, Jozef van Wissem, and Ava Luna

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The FBI turns to Israel's old Army friends to get a better understanding of him, revealing some shocking information about Keyes. Then Keyes heads to Texas, where he completely loses control.

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Music by Keaton Henson, William Hellfire, Radial Face, Sergey Cheremisinov, Kevin MacLeod, and Utopia Ohio.

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Israel goes quiet, and the FBI investigate his research into other serial killers. Plus, a strange trip leads to a possible victim. And a man from Israel's past comes to the forefront.

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Written, researched, edited, and produced by Josh Hallmark

Music by William Hellfire, Whithe, Westy Reflector, Sergey Cheremisinov, LaBon, and El Perro del Mar

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While True Crime Bullsh** is on its regularly scheduled week off, Charlie Worroll (of Crimelines and Rusty Hinges) and I decided to sit down and answer some listener questions about the podcast, the case, myself, and Israel Keyes.

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We look into the Lauren Spierer disappearance and links to Keyes. And the FBI comes up with a plan to manage Vermont and get Keyes talking.

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Music by William Hellfire, Whithe, Radical Face, Westy Reflector, and Sergey Cheremisinov

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What happened to The Curriers' remains? And what was Israel Keyes doing in Indiana?

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Music by Sparklehorse, William Hellfire, Radial Face, Le Bonn, Whithe, Sergey Cheremisinov, and Mmoths

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An incredibly revealing trip is examined, and a pattern emerges.

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Music by William Hellfire, Radial Face, Chris Lynn, Sergey Cheremisinov, and Little Grey Girlfriend

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The FBI builds a geographic timeline for Israel Keyes, and starts deep diving his computer. Meanwhile, Israel moves to Alaska and has to recalibrate his methodology once again.

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Music by William Hellfire, Lee Rosevere, Radial Face, LeBon, Sergey Cheremisinov, and Emily Wells

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In this episode, we spend a lot of time in the woods. Plus, Israel meets someone new; and learns to adapt and evolve his methodologies.

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Written, researched, edited, and produced by Josh Hallmark

Featuring: Dr. Katherine Ramsland

Music by William Hellfire, Lee Rosevere, Radical Face, LeBon, and Cloud Jumper.

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Israel juggles his dual lives, as his family life falls into turmoil; and he tests new tools and practices for murder. Discrepancies in his statements arise. And Josh and Katherine land on a new theory about Israel's victims.

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Written, researched, edited, and produced by Josh Hallmark

Featuring: Dr. Katherine Ramsland

Music by William Hellfire, Lee Rosevere, Radial Face, LeBon, Broke for Free, and Taken by Trees

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There's only one unsolved couple disappearance that matches Israel's description of his Washington double homicide.

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Written, researched, edited, and produced by Josh Hallmark
Featuring: Dr. Katherine Ramsland
Voice work: Steven Pappas

Music by William Hellfire, Radical Face, Sergey Cheremisinov, Kevin MacLeod, Dana Boule, and Keaton Henson

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Israel finds himself living a double life. And he begins making plans: for his life, for his career, and for his first three homicides.

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Featuring: Dr. Katherine Ramsland

Audio clips from the Unconcluded podcast.

Music by William Hellfire, Whithe, Radical Face, Chris Zabriskie, Sergey Cheremisinov, and Future Islands

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We explore Israel's adolescence, family, religious background, military career, and early criminal activity. We also examine Nature vs. Nurture and how both contributed to Israel's criminal pathology.

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Written, researched, edited, and produced by Josh Hallmark
Featuring: Dr. Katherine Ramsland

Music by William Hellfire, Whithe, Radical Face, The Trumpeteers, Roger McGuinn, Sergey Cheremisinov, and Sans Nom

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WARNING: This episode includes graphic descriptions of rape and murder.

Israel tells the FBI about a disturbing double homicide; and Josh struggles with the ethics of true crime.

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Written, researched, edited, and produced by Josh Hallmark
Featuring: True Crime Listeners: Renee, Kendra and Stephanie

Music by William Hellfire, Whithe, Radical Face, Chris Zabriskie, Sergey Cheremisinov, and Sparklehorse

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What happened to Samantha Koenig? After Israel's arrest, he tells the FBI.

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Written, researched, edited, and produced by Josh Hallmark
Additional research by: Haley Gray and Vicki Russell

Featuring: Dr. Katherine Ramsland
True Crime Listeners: Kendra and Stephanie

Music by William Hellfire, Whithe, Radical Face, Lee Rosevere, Sergey Cheremisinov, and Mi & L'au

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On March 13, 2012, Israel Keyes was arrested for the abduction of Samantha Koenig. And a pandora's box was opened.

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Additional research by: Lanie Hobbs, Hannah Ostic, Haley Gray, and Vicki Russell
Voice work by Sam Kulper & Adam Saunders

Music by William Hellfire, Whithe, Radical Face, Chris Zabriskie, and Sergey Cheremisinov.

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Israel Keyes is considered one of the most meticulous serial killers in American history. He had a fetish for missing people, and to this date, only one of his victims' remains have been located. This is your introduction to Israel and the journey True Crime Bullsh** will take us on.

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Additional research by: Hannah Ostic and Haley Gray

Featuring: Dr. Katherine Ramsland
Voice work: Lanie Hobbs
True Crime Podcasters: Justin (Generation Why), Amanda (Wine & Crime), Haley (Murder Road Trip)
True Crime Listeners: Renee, Stephanie, Kendra

Music by William Hellfire, Whithe, Radical Face, and Kashka

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True Crime Bullsh** is a serialized, investigative podcast exploring meticulous and enigmatic serial killer Israel Keyes. Join me on this strange, terrifying, and emotional journey, as I attempt to find the missing, understand a killer, explore the impacts of crime, and reconcile with those left behind.

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