Orwell vs Huxley # 1

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Speaker 0 (0s): Well, I guess you better listen up Pilgrim. We're about to get in to some brave new world versus George Orwell. What a horrible John Wayne impression, isn't it. Hey, I tried, we gotta to do gave it the old college try there. I gave it the old John Wayne American hero, the inspiration to Clint Eastwood, dirty Harry. 

You know, the reason I was going with his Western style breakdown, because I really want to get into how our world is the way that it is today. And I've been reading rereading some of the classics, 1984 by George Orwell, brave new world by all this Huxley. And I was curious as to what most people would think about today's environment. 

Would you, my friend think that we are living in a world more like 1984, a sort of surveillance state, or do you think we are living in a brave new world, a technocratic state. If I were to ask you that, what would you say if I was to take a poll? What would America say? What do you think Europe would say? No, that's a good question. 

So I thought we would go over a few passages of both books. I thought we dig into a little bit of both and I've let you be the judge kind of like, remember when you were a kid and you would have watched the NFL with your dad, and there was always the Buick to call, well, I'm bringing it back and now you get to make the call. I think you're going to enjoy it. George Orwell's 1984 was written in 1948. 

All they did was kind of switch the numbers around they're all this Huxley, 1931. This is sort of a tale of the tape here. A lot of people don't know, however, brave new world written by all this Huxley actually had a second book written, kind of a followup. And it was called brave new world revisited where all this Huxley goes into how the culture is evolving, what got right and what he got wrong. 

If you purchase that book, you will also find some correspondence between him and George Orwell. Now I know what you're thinking. Yeah, George, everybody knows those two men were alive at the same time. Most of us have read the correspondence. Don't you have anything new for us, George? We're just going to repeat all this old Gar bodge no, my friends, I have an exclusive for you because I care about you and I love you. 

And I did my research. I George Monte, true life podcast, and going to bring to you the first ever dialogue leaked. I don't want to give up my source, but have, you know, it's a very high level source. And as far as I know, you will be the very first person to hear this dialogue. Now let me set it up for you. It was late in their careers. 

Orwell's book was enjoined, tremendous success on mr. Aldous Huxley, who by that time had discovered LSD 25 and was friends with dr. Timothy Leary. He took it upon himself or perhaps the LSD took upon him. I guess there was a rather large dose and Huxley became a little bit upset, maybe a little jealous at the success of Orwell, who he believed was not of the quality of himself as a writer and or as a journalist or a thinker. 

So under this huge dose of LSD, he went over to George Orwell's house late at night, walking across his grass, up to his house late at night, and then ensued the argument of what you're about to hear without any further ado. Let me play that for you. Now. 

Speaker 1 (5m 7s): I know what you're thinking. You're thinking. Did he fire six shots or only five? Oh, I remember asking you a God damn thing now to tell you the truth. I forgot myself and all this excitement truth is you the week. And I am the tyranny of evil, but be in this 44, Megan, the most powerful handgun in the world and we'll blow your head clean off. It's called baby it's cold. We still Jeff off. You could ask yourself question. Do I feel lucky? 

Do you give me the Babel ringer? The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the inequities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men will ship it's the week. I will strike down upon the, with great vengeance and furious anger. And you will know I am the Lord. When I lay my vengeance upon you, did you hear me? I said, get off my lawn now. 

Speaker 0 (6m 5s): Now granted, I don't know what happened at the end there, but you can tell that was a very volatile situation. Very tense. Apparently Orwell had just planted some flowers or put some new seed on the lawn. 

Speaker 1 (6m 23s): So, 

Speaker 0 (6m 24s): Well, I brought it to you first there you guys go, you're welcome. Now let's get into what could have led to this. I think it's the battle of the books and that's what we're going to get into. I'm going to go through these books and you guys can be the judge of which book is more prescient of today. So let's start off with a little bit about all this Huxley. First, I'm going to read you a little bit of his bio and then we'll do a bit of George's bio. And then we're gonna get into some of the books, all this Huxley, absolutely detested mass culture and popular entertainment, and many of his toughest critical essays, as well as several intense passages in his fiction, consist of sneers and jeers at the cheapness of the cinematic ethic and the vulgarity of commercial music. 

He chance to die on the same day as the assassination of president Kennedy in November, 1963, being cheated of a proper obituary notice as a result and sharing the date of decease with C S Lewis chronicler of Narnia. So he missed the televisual event, which once, and for all confirmed the global village. But if he were able to return to us and cast his scornful and lofty gaze on our hedonistic society, he would probably be relatively unsurprised at the way. 

Things are going. Sex has been divorced from procreation to a degree, hard to imagine, even in 1963 and the current great debates in the moral science is concerned. The implications of reproductive cloning and the employment of fetal STEM cells and medicine. The study of history is everywhere, but especially in the United States in steep decline, public life in the richer societies is routinely compared to the rhythms of spectacle and entertainment. 

A flickering hunger for authenticity, pushes many people to explore the peripheral and shrinking worlds of the indigenous. This was all prefigured in brave new world. So in a way was the one child policy that was previously followed in communist China, where to the extent that the program is successful, we will not only see a formerly clannish society where everyone is an only child, but a formerly Marxist one that has no real cognit word for brotherhood. 

Intercontinental rocket travel has not become the commonplace Huxley anticipated, but it's to have become a cliche jumbo jets do the same work of abolishing distance for the masses, even though in a strange moment of refusal, the developed world has stepped back from the supersonic Concorde and reverted to the days of voyaging comfortably below the speed of sound. That's a quick, a little paragraph into all this Huxley and a little bit about his book. Let's read a little bit about, or well now, or what was the pin name of Eric Arthur Blair born in 1903 in colonial India. 

He attended boarding school in England and it was there that he first became aware of the hurtful class prejudice that plagued British society, developing an early sensitivity to the uses and abuses of power upon graduating from Eaton in 1921, or well signed on with the Burmese Indian Imperial police abo...