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Episode 145: Quickie Controversy, what does the Theology of the Body say about quickies?

43 min • 7 september 2023

Craig: “Perhaps the husband that is asking for a quickie is not trying to be selfish, but is simply trying to remain chaste and not fall in to sin.”Moderator: “This is where self-control is required in remaining out of sin. It's still a sin to use your wife only for sexual pleasure and not prioritizing her pleasure. The husband's job in sex is to give his wife the gift of pleasure and the wife's job is the opposite. Simply using the wife for sexual release in order to "stay out of sin" is still use of a person and is at odds with the dignity of the human person.”Craig: “"This is where self-control is required in remaining out of sin. It's still a sin to use your wife only for sexual pleasure and not prioritizing her pleasure." I wish I could convey the amount of spiritual pain and guilt many Catholic men quietly carry around with them every day, and in and out of the confessional, as they try to faithfully follow all these teachings. It truly feels like an impossible task much of the time. This is the quiet agony of the cross many men, myself in included for man years, carry as we try to navigate Catholic moral theology. I'm very grateful that my beloved wife was willing to embrace this cross and help me carry it.”Moderator: “And Craig on the flip side of that, I wish I could convey the deep pain of women who feel objectified and used within their marriages by the person who is supposed to be sacrificing himself as Christ did for his bride the church. Marriage is made of fallen people. It's never going to be easy. It will get harder and harder as God calls us to greater holiness. We are always called to do the hard work to grow toward grace. And it will be physically and emotionally hard and it may at times feel impossible. Countless saints have said that the path to holiness looks impossible to many, but it is the righteous who lean on Jesus to guide them through what would be impossible for human beings alone, but it is not impossible with God. The "impossible" factor is what separates the saints, we know that NOTHING is impossible with God.”Craig: “"I wish I could convey the deep pain of women who feel objectified and used within their marriages by the person who is supposed to be sacrificing himself as Christ did for his bride the church." I respect this perspective 100%, with one caveat. The key distinction between men and women in these divergent crosses is that, for the man, failure is said to be a mortal sin and warranting eternity in hell. A single act of masturbation, or lusting after his wife when he just craves a sexual release, is potentially a mortal sin that cuts him off from God. Forever. That is what we are told to believe as Catholics. That is what the husband is waging war with every day of his life when it comes to his body and his sexual desires, which seem intent on dragging him to hell if the Church's teachings on this are to be believed. His only respite from this war is intimacy with his wife. Some men turn to masturbation rather than burdening their wives with their bodily needs, especially if they are going to be told they are being selfish if they ask for it more than their wives are willing or able. So a husband finds himself in this battle for his very salvation, as he further adds to it the worry that he is objectifying his wife, which he does not want. And his reward is to be told he's just selfish, and needs to exercise more self control.”#catholicpodcast #catholic #quickies #nfp #naturalfamilyplanning #theologyofthebody #objectify #selfish #salvation #salvation #confession #2352Project

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