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We Are Art People is an independent conversation series with artists and people — exploring possibilities for making and being in the world as a creative person.
Bringing together diverse narratives and complex perspectives, our commitment is to facilitate a space of autonomy and resiliency for the artists’ voice. A goal is these conversations will bolster community and provide an open-resource for other creative people, navigating their journey and in relationship with the world.
Located in Brooklyn, New York — our conversation series is facilitated by New York-based artist, Emily Nam.
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Lauren Servideo is a funny person, and a comedian and actress living in the East Village in New York City.
Her main gig is to write, produce and portray the people amongst us, where she is dressed up as various characters and people that we all know. What Lauren has effortlessly been able to achieve is transforming her own self into the beings of others, which she shares most often via an instagram video, filmed on the fly with her partner Emerson Rosenthal. Her characters include; Anubis a ghoulish vampire that enjoys lazing about in swimming pools, her friends are fleeting and she is at present wandering the landscapes of New York City, it is 2025. Regulars are Miss Piggy, Dog Breeder, Greg Finkel, Grandmas Boyfriend, Victoria is from Pittsburgh and then there are the delectable moments and happenings that Lauren discovers along the way, each with a keen display of vulnerability and an ability for stretching our imagination.
We discuss the transformative power of becoming another, and how Lauren has navigated the creative process of workshopping and improvisation, as an opportunity to get to know her characters. Lauren herself questions, what is the underlying drive that has fed her creative process and for making video projects for over a decade. Why do we laugh or why do we need to laugh is a question pertinent in this current moment of global uncertainty, instability… what is the purpose of humor? Lauren’s ability to sit at the edge of humanity and culture — capturing the pulse of the zeitgeist with a fresh and dynamic spirit, is an art. For clarity, it is best you watch her videos on instagram.
Links:
IMBd https://www.imdb.com/name/nm9939178/
Show notes:
Nominative determinism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nominative_determinism
Hole, Doll Parts https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RD9xK9smth4
The Wizard of Oz (Glinda's arrival) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YvQ7HiJkUJ4
William Esper Studio https://esperstudio.com/
Manchester by the Sea https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manchester_by_the_Sea_(film)
Tulpa https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tulpa
Miranda July https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miranda_July
Chris Lilley https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_Lilley_(comedian)
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Okkyung Lee is a cellist, composer and improviser. She was born in South Korea and moved to Boston (USA) in 1992, to study Contemporary Writing and Production and Film Scoring at Berklee College of Music and continued with a Master’s degree at the New England Conservatory of Music in Contemporary Improvisation.
Okkyung moved to New York in the 2000s and fell with ease, into the avant-garde music scene that included performance nights at Tonic, the Knitting Factory and a plethora of artists and musicians that she was able to stretch, move, bend — and create a sonic world with. Over the last two decades, Okkyung has been widely recognized for her improvisational works and instrumental compositions. She has collaborated with artists from a range of disciplines including Arca, Mark Fell, Ellen Fullman, Douglas Gordon, Christian Marclay, Marina Rosenfeld, Thurston Moore, Ikue Mori and Rashad Becker. In 2016, Okkyung formed Yeo-Neun Quartet and composes music for a harp (Maeve Gilchrist), cello, double bass (Eivind Opsvik), and piano (Jacob Sacks). Okkyung has performed internationally as a solo artist and composer including; Borealis Festival (Bergen, Norway), Donaueschingen Music Festival (Donaueschingen, Germany), Museum of Modern Art (New York), Whitney Museum of American Art (New York, USA), The Met Breuer (New York, USA), Museo del Novecento (Milan, Italy), Serpentine Galleries (London, UK), White Cube Galleries (London, UK) and has recently moved to Berlin, where she is the recipient of the 12-month DAAD Artists-in-Berlin residency program.
Links:
Yeo-Neun https://shelterpress.bandcamp.com/album/yeo-neun
Show notes:
Richard Abrams, George Lewis and Roscoe Mitchell Venice Biennale [2003]
Bergen Kunsthall, Still Hoping for a miracle?
Upcoming events:
Lisa Ullén-Okkyung Lee https://exploratorium-berlin.de/en/events/stage/lisa-ullen-okkyung-lee-duo/
Okkyung Lee-Rashad Becker https://www.maxxi.art/en/events/okkyung-lee-rashad-becker/
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Loren Munk is an (amateur) art historian, an alchemist and maker of vibrant paintings about the history of the New York Art community. His nom de guerre is James Kalm — an art fanatic that rides a bike around the boroughs and visits galleries and art shows in New York City.
Loren has obtained a unique perspective and understanding of the New York phylogeny of art and its communal happenings. This was a default process of acquiring knowledge, through delivering art supplies for Utretch, to the artists' studio. Making notes of his findings of who and where everyone was, Loren started making connections, and analyzing systems of thinking and behaviors. Take a look at his paintings and the story will be clear. Something Loren reflects on, is the idea of the symbiotic relationships that exists within art communities. Saying hello to your artist neighbor at the bodega you buy your milk, sharing a drink at the local bar, it may not be a significant exchange but these passings are present. Munk believes it is these engagements and interactions that are just as essential to an artists life, as to what is happening in the studio.
We discuss the aesthetic propensities of James Kalm, who makes wobbly videos, which are posted on two prominent youtube channels; The James Kalm Report and James Kalm Rough Cut - quoted as the ‘freshest and most urgent art coverage on the internet”. With 18 years of footage, these two channels have amassed over1600 programs, and many millions of views. Loren has presented his artworks across Europe and New York, his most recent exhibition at was a dynamic display of paintings with Ruttkowski;68 and Rail Curatorial Projects, presented as the 10th installment of Singing in Unison; Loren Munk & James Kalm [Curated by Phong H. Bui & Cal McKeever]. James Kalm previously wrote art criticism for The Brooklyn Rail, from 2000 to 2012.
Links:
www.youtube.com/@jameskalmroughcut/videos
Singing in Unison, Part 10 Loren Munk & James Kalm
Show notes:
Irving Sandler Railing Opinion: A Call to Art Critics
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David Watson is an experimental musician, composer and organizer. He most often performs with the guitar or the highland bagpipes. His work encompasses improvisation, composition, and he is the organizer of Striped Light, an avant-garde performance series in New York City, co-curated with guitarist Ian Douglas-Moore.
We discuss the formidable journey from New Zealand to New York City, arriving by bus in 1987. The complicated nuances of practicing a profoundly audible instrument, in a densely populated city and the impact of building artist-led initiatives as a way to explore performance and collaboration. David has made a life of bringing people together, continuing a dialogue around experimental music and methods for performance. He is part of trio Glacial - a collaboration of 25 years, with Lee Ranaldo (Sonic Youth) and Tony Buck (The Necks). And, he has collaborated with choreographers, musicians and performers, including Chris Abrahams, Robert Ashley, Frisner Augustin, Marcia Bassett, Anthony Coleman, David First, Shelley Hirsch, Samara Lubelski, Ikue Mori, Yoshi Wada, Phil Niblock et. al. David was a core member of The Primitive Art Group, a music group formed in Wellington, New Zealand [1981-1986]. For 2025, The Foundation for Contemporary Arts has awarded David the Alvin Lucier Award for Music.
Links:
Bandcamp https://davidwatsonmusic.bandcamp.com
Striped Light https://www.instagram.com/striped_light
Show notes:
Foundation for Contemporary Arts
The Metropolitan Museum of Art Zuqqara Egyptian bagpipe
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Todd Bienvenu is a painter, living in Brooklyn, New York. His paintings are a reflection of his biographical universe — they are thick, direct and humorous. Resourcing images from his daily life and occurrences, his paintings feature tattooed rockers, beach bums, urban crashes and mosh pits. It is life in motion.
We discuss the journey of making comic books during his adolescence, to navigating a life as a painter in New York, contending with the materiality of paint and paper in the studio or making a tiny pizza delivery man, reminiscent of his early days riding around Brooklyn. Todd is represented by Almine Rech and Galerie Sébastien Bertrand, in Geneva. He has exhibited work internationally, in Hong Kong, London, New York, Brussels and Switzerland. In 2018, he was recognized and received an award from the American Academy of Art & Letters, for excellence in painting, conferred by Peter Saul.
Links:
https://www.alminerech.com/artists/358-todd-bienvenu
https://sebastienbertrand.com/artist/todd-bienvenu
https://www.artsy.net/artist/todd-bienvenu
Show notes:
Little Rock, Arkansas https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Little_Rock,_Arkansas
Romare Bearden https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romare_Bearden
Aaron Michael Skolnick https://www.marchgallery.org/exhibitions/the-entertainer/
Hannah Rowan https://www.hannah-rowan.com/
Bill jensen https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Jensen
*Poetry*
Wave of Blood [2025] p.66 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ariana_Reines
Pioneer Works, Brooklyn https://pioneerworks.org/
You might have to feel it to believe me
To believe how wretched I was but also
How determined. Poetry isn't a profession
A person simply goes into. You have
To be fucked up to do this and especially
To stay. It does not attract the best
Or the brightest. We are some of the most
Sanctimonious low-attention-span narcissists
Around. But it gave me my life
Which I had a longing to see naked
And it held me up to living
In a very naked way
And showed me breathing
And gave me space
To find my way ...
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Mark Fell is a multidisciplinary artist and writer, living in Rotherham, UK. His body of work includes electronic compositions and performance, sound installation, critical writing, educational systems and curatorial projects.
We discuss software-based composition, the 'bendy' nature of traditional Indian music and the experience of poly-rhythmic compositions and synthetic sound. His practice is expansive and in response to the human condition, looking for possibilities that can reveal new insights and procedures for participating with digital systems.
Mark's computational electronic compositions draw on both a compelling minimal aesthetic and complex algorithmic and mathematical structures. He has worked closely with Rian Treanor and most recently developed a collaborative open-source web based program — Intersymmetric. He is one part of snd with Mat Steel, naming their project after the extension often used for computer sound.
Other collaborators include Yasunao Tone, Laurie Spiegel, Okkyung Lee, Will Guthrie, Ernest Edmonds and Carl Michael Von Hausswolff. Mark has released work on labels including Line, Editions Mego and Raster Noton. In public space, Mark has presented work at international institutions including The Institute of Contemporary Art (London), The Serpentine(London), Victoria and Albert Museum(London), Whitechapel Gallery (London), VAC Foundation Palazzo delle Zattere (Venice), Hong Kong National Film Archive, The Baltic (Gateshead), Museu d'Art Contemporani de Barcelona, La Casa Encendida (Madrid), Laboral (XIxon), The Australian Centre For Moving Image (Melbourne), MOMA(NYC), Issue Project Room (NYC) and in 2017 he was the curator of “The Geometry of Now” at V-A-C foundation, Moscow.
Structure and Synthesis: The Anatomy of Practice was published in 2022, charting Mark’s unorthodox theories on time, structure, technology. Mark has lectured on topics related to sound, performance, digital culture, and technology at institutions around the world.
** trigger warning ** 00:04:00 - 00:15:00 social-political conflicts that exist in Rotherham, UK are discussed.
Links:
Structure and Synthesis: The Anatomy of Practice [2021] https://www.urbanomic.com/book/structure-and-synthesis/
Intersymmetric: https://intersymmetric.xyz/
Show notes:
Rotherham, UK https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rotherham
Throbbing Gristle, The Second Annual Report [1977]
Yamaha TX81Z https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yamaha_TX81Z
Mohammad Mortazavi https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZbeAWK8yvw
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Eileen Myles (they/them) is a poet, novelist, activist, art journalist and a 1992 presidential candidate. They have been living in New York City since the mid-70s and now spilts their time between Marfa,TX.
We discuss the tension of poetry, the movements of the planets and their relationship to poetry, reading to a live audience and the power of 3x cakes and 3x rounds of "Happy Birthday", sung at their 75th celebration in Marfa, TX.
They have an excellent website which offers a very short / kind of short / really long bio options to read, including a homage to Animals. Eileen has been publishing books since 1978, recognized for their vernacular personal-narrative writing and titles include Chelsea Girls, Not Me, Pathetic Literature and The importance of being Iceland. They have made a formative contribution to the The Poetry Project, have contributed poems and others works to Art Forum, New York Review, Vice, Dazed and Confused, The New York Times, Playboy et al. Catalog essasy have been written about artists including Nicole Eisenman, Carolee Schneeman, Tabboo! Nan Goldin, and Jack Pierson. Using their platform to speak towards our social climate, Eileen’s participation in the world remains accountable. In 2022, they were inducted into the American Academy of Arts & Letters.
Links:
Social: @eileen.myles
Show notes:
'Eileen Myles chronicles a people's history of East River Park' Document Journal https://www.documentjournal.com/2022/07/eileen-myles-chronicles-a-peoples-history-of-east-river-park/
The Trip, Written and Directed by Eileen Myles https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=omcdaUy6JfE
The Poetry Project https://www.poetryproject.org/
Onomatopoeia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Onomatopoeia
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Lizzi Bougatsos is an artist, lyricist and experimental musician living in Brooklyn, New York City. Her work is a complex expression of word, sound notions, collage, sculpture and performance.
We discuss creative rituals, climbing pyramids, making sound with voice and body, and the power of the Sinead O’connor's ‘arrgghh’.
Lizzi is of Gang Gang Dance (of 25 years), I.U.D with Sadie Laska and has collaborated with many artists inc. Kim Gordon, Rita Ackerman (Angel Blood), Yoshimo + OOIOO, Lonnie Holley et al. Lizzi led the 8/8/08 BOADRUM, a collaboration with the Boredoms, singing with 88 drummers in an outdoor performance, in New York City and has exhibited work and performed at institutions including The Sao Paulo Biennale, Pace Gallery, American Fine Arts Co., TRAMPS, James Fuentes, Museo d’arts Contemporanea di Roma, Astrup, White Columns, Performance Space NY, The Whitney Museum of American Art and Bergan Kunsthall, Norway and Galerie Molitor, Berlin.
Links:
https://www.lizzibougatsos.com/
Gang Gang Dance http://www.ganggangdance.com/
James Fuentes Gallery https://www.jamesfuentes.com/artists/lizzi-bougatsos
Social: @baby_seal777
Show notes:
Before My Voice Fails, Gang Gang Dance https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UCbvmvwM1hc
88 BoaDrum https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GydTq-SarnA
Taiko Japanese drumming https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taiko
OOIOO https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OOIOO
The Fire Within: A Requiem for Katia and Maurice Krafft, Werner Herzog https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Fire_Within:_A_Requiem_for_Katia_and_Maurice_Krafft
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Claire Gilman is a curator and writer living in New York City.
We discuss the power of drawings and the intention for revealing a work to the public. The importance of being prepared as a curatorial practice of care and the process of research in acquainting oneself with the artist behind the work. Through Claire’s expertise, she is enabling us to participate in connections between present and past works. Her upcoming curatorial projects at The Morgan Library include works of Lisa Yuskavage and an investigation into the history of Tarot, centered on the 15th Century Visconti-Sforza Tarot Deck from the Morgan Library collection.
Claire is Acquavella Curator and Department Head, Modern and Contemporary Drawings at The Morgan Library in New York City. Claire’s trajectory as a curator of drawings has included her role as the Chief Curator at The Drawing Center, fostering the eclectic presentation of artist and exhibitions grounded in exploring new ways of "what drawing is and what drawing can do", including; A Greater Beauty: The Drawings of Kahlil Gibran [2013], Tomi Ungerer [2015], Ways of Seeing: Three Takes on the Jack Shear Drawing Collection [2022], as well as the works of established artists such as Cecily Brown and Rashid Johnson. Claire received a Ph.D. in Art History at Columbia University, she has served as a curatorial fellow at MoMA and taught art history and critical theory at Columbia University and The Center for Curatorial Studies at Bard College. Claire has contributed articles to Art Journal, CAA Reviews, Documents, Frieze and October. Claire co-authored with Roger Malbet, 'Drawing in The Present Tense', published with Thames and Hudson [2013].
Links:
https://www.themorgan.org/press/2024/claire-gilman
Social: @clairesgilman
Show notes:
A Greater Beauty: The Drawings of Kahlil Gibran [2023] https://drawingcenter.org/exhibitions/a-greater-beauty-kahlil-gibran
Tomi Ungerer: All in One [2015] https://drawingcenter.org/exhibitions/tomi-ungerer-all-in-one
The Morgan Library: Visconti-Sforza Tarot Cards https://www.themorgan.org/collection/tarot-cards
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Aron Sanchez-Baranda is a video artist and photographer, living in Los Angeles, California.
We discuss Aron's investigations and immersion into the mesmerizing world beneath our ocean waters, the role of an artist and responsibility in communicating the confronting realities of discovered ecological shifts and degradation, collaboration and finding projects that give space for interactive expression.
Aron has discovered a deep connection to documenting the movement and habitats of biological marine animals - the majority of his life has been spent close to the California coast and through a trajectory in sound and music production, Aron shifted his focus to visual documentation. Working with moving image, photography and in collaboration with musicians and sound artists — Aron’s work is both a creative expression and an ongoing documentation. His instagram @waterbod is a cacophony of color, movement and delicious creatures filled with life and abstraction. Aron has collaborated with Venezuelan musician and record producer, Alejandra Ghersi Rodríguez aka Arca, directing the mesmerizing visuals for Madre featuring Oliver Coates and works have been presented as large scale video installations in Times square’s Midnight Moment, the Venice Biennale and for Neo Shibuya TV, Tokyo.
Links:
https://aronsanchezprints.com/
Social: @waterbod
Show notes:
Arca – Madre feat. Oliver Coates https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JAS5k0xme8E
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Bobby Dowler is British-born artist and is living in Paris.
We talk about exploring film and harnessing one's skills, moving into spaces that are unknown and the process of making work, as a visceral discovery and the role of stewardship and ownership of art. Bobby refers to his passion for things 'kitsch' and his reference to artists Jeff Koons, Asger Jorn and Francis Picabia.
Bobby builds painting-objects acquired by salvaged materials, discarded from other artists and in found spaces; collecting, cutting, assembling, repainting using stretcher bars, canvas and paint. These outcomes are loaded with vibrant tension and austere emotional content - they are playful whilst being committed to examining the trajectory and history of art and considering what is the role of the artist, in our modern day. Bobby received a Master of Fine Art from Central Saint Martins, University of the Arts (UAL, London, UK), a BA in Film Studies from Solent University (Southampton, Hampshire, UK), and a Foundation in Art and Design from Camberwell College of Art (London, UK). He is represented by international galleries, Hannah Barry [UK] and Galería Alegría [Spain].
Links:
Social: @bobbydowler
Hannah Barry Gallery, UK https://hannahbarry.com/artist/bobby-dowler/#gallery-grid-82
Galería Alegría, Spain https://www.galeriaalegria.es/en/artists/77/bobby-dowler
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Luis Delfin Attawalpa Saul Felber aka British/Peruvian artist Attawalpa, is a multi-instrumentalist and composer, living in London.
We discuss the journey of the creative 'slow-burn', letting music come alive with space and the process of building sound compositions for moving image and film.
Luis has been involved in the London music scene since the early 2000s, participating in multiple bands and music groups, including Young Turks (now the record label Young). Attawalpa (formed in 2018) continues to evolve and guide us towards the spacious and vulnerable dimensions of the human psyche — immersing us in a pillow of melodies that evoke potential dreamings of our future. Luis’s interactions with sound have led him to working on sound scores for film and television, including the motion picture Catherine Called Birdy [2022] and Sharp Stick [2022]. Luis is co-creator and is writing and performing the score with Matt Allchin, for Lena Dunham's 2025 Netflix release ‘Too Much’ which will also feature original Attawalpa music.
Attawalpa are preparing to release their second album, ‘Experience’ in 2025. 👀
[Attawalpa consists of Luis Felber - Singing/Guitars, Matt Allchin - Bass, Henry Danowski - Drums, Adam Sopp - Keys, Maurizio Ravalico - Percussion and Freya Hicks - Viola]
Links:
https://attawalpa.bandcamp.com/
https://www.attawalpa.com/
Social: @attawalpa
Show notes:
Attawalpa, Yellow Fingers music video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TPxbQR5PXFY
Simpsonwave https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EuVTt-M3IXo
Darondo, Didn't I https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1zljNPO6W8E
Attawalpa tour dates with Liz Lawrence https://www.instagram.com/p/DBOfqPGtskI/?igsh=MXBjcGp2d2tuODRwYg%3D%3D
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Justine Kurland is a photographer, collage-artist, educator and curator, living in New York City.
We discuss collage as a metaphor to navigate an inherent desire to break out of hierarchical systems of power, rebuilding an art practice that affirms connection, through collaboration and compromise and the impact of societal changes and perspectives, on the evolution of creative narratives.
Known for her utopian photographs of real and imagined American landscapes and communities amongst the fringe, Justine moves between mediums and embodies a practice that is inclusive and open to change. Justine has published several books including; Girl Pictures, Aperture (2018), Highway Kind, Aperture (2016) and The Train, Mack (2024). Her work is in the permanent collections of institutions, including; the Whitney Museum of American Art, New York; Solomon R. Guggenheim Museum of Art, New York; Museum of Modern Art, New York; Carnegie Museum, Pennsylvania; Getty Museum, California; National Gallery of Art, Washington D.C.
Justine’s series of collages, SCUMB Manifesto (The Society of Cutting Up Mens Books) transforms books by canonized male photographers. SCUMB Flowers is currently on view at Dashwood Projects in New York City [09/26/24—11/11/24] examining the pages of William Eggleston’s ten-volume set, The Democratic Forest. Info: https://dashwoodprojects.com/justine-kurland
Links:
Social: @justine4good
Website: https://www.justinekurland.com/
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Vittoria de Franchis, is an independent curator, language researcher and writer operating between London, Berlin and Rome.
Her practice incorporates language experimentation, voice performance and collective projects that celebrate the possibilities of open-source collaboration. Through her explorations with sonic compositions, conversations, readings and writing - Vittoria has envisioned a total model for being and facilitating a connection with fantasy and space. Projects include; gggglllloooossssaaaa - a widespread series of interdisciplinary happenings, a project that has travelled internationally from New York City and Europe, connecting communities and envisioning new models for sound and voice performance. A recent exploration Unknown Language, echoes Hildegard von Bingen’s “Lingua Ignota”, deployed as a 5-week residency at Refuge Worldwide presenting different approaches to 'voice in sound and voice as sound’.
Her writings have been featured in Flash Art, Resident Advisor, Spike Art Magazine, Terraforma Journal, and with CIRCA - The Cultural Institute of Radical Contemporary Arts.
Links:
Social: @vittoria.totale
GGGGLLLLOOOOSSSSAAA www.instagram.com/gggglllloooossssaaaa
Solo Voce, with Recital Program https://recitalprogram.bandcamp.com/album/solo-voce
Track 1: Che Giorni (2:22)
Track 2: Too Hot (00:35)
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Carl Michael von Hausswolff is a sound composer, visual-performance artist and curator, born in Sweden in 1956.
Since the 1970s, he has used the audio recorder and recording technology as his main device to create sound compositions that explore electricity, frequency and locations in space. Included in his sound investigations, is the paranormal experience of Electronic Voice Phenomena, which explores the presence of supernatural beings in other dimensions, intercepted as concurrent frequencies manifesting as voices and whispers from the other side. His sound compositions are complex layerings that are dense and radical — intuitively exploring a macromal and paced output of sound frequencies that interact with the unexplored spaces that interrogate our physical perceptions of sound, light and space.
Von Hausswolff has collaborated with Swedish artist Leif Elggren, film-maker Thomas Nordanstad, EVP researcher Michael Esposito, and Jónsi (Sigur Rós) collaborating on the project Dark Morph.
His work can be found on record labels including RasterNoton, Touch, iDeal and MonoType.
Links:
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Website: www.cmvonhausswolff.net
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We Are Art People is a conversation with artists and people - NYC based artist Emily Nam speaks with filmmakers, sound composers, cultural makers, painters, art historians, curators and writers, people who are engaged in the practice of art. We are talking about the process of growth, the obstacles faced, the value of community and the resounding experience of being a creative person.
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