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Today, we’re attempting to solve birthdays. For most of us, it’s a complicated day full of mixed emotions, expectations, and comparisons.

• Why birthdays have become a set up for disappointment;
• Glennon, Abby, and Amanda share their best and worst birthday stories; and
• Strategies for making birthdays better and celebrating each other outside of that one day.

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394. Dylan Mulvaney On the Hardest Thing She’s Ever Done

Actress, singer, and creator of the viral TikTok series 'Days of Girlhood,' Dylan Mulvaney, shares her story of coming out as trans and all the turns her career has taken since. 

-The truth behind Beergate and where she’s at with it now

-Why Glennon relates to Dylan’s experience so much 

-How to rediscover and appreciate joy after a dark night of the soul

On Dylan: Dylan Mulvaney is a trans actress, comic, and creator of the viral TikTok series “Days of Girlhood,” which received more than one billion views across all platforms. Dylan has been featured on the Forbes 30 Under 30 List, received a Woman of the Year by Attitude magazine, honored on the Out100 List, and has received a ThemNow Award and a Webby Special Achievement Award Dylan attended the University of Cincinnati College-Conservatory of Music and played Elder White in The Book of Mormon. She now lives in LA, where she works to bring trans stories to the mainstream. 

Her debut book, PAPER DOLL: NOTES FROM A LATE BLOOMER, (the date marks Dylan’s third year of girlhood), is available now.

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1. How to create lives that we don’t need to escape from.

2. Why our resentment toward others is our Secret Self-Care Signal.

3. Why refusing to be selfless is the best way to care for others and the world.

4. How to stop passing down the brutal legacy of martyrdom to our children.

5. Glennon’s life-changing spiritual practice: Habitual Quitting.

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393. Inside a WTF Week: Stock Market Nosedives, Dept of Ed Decimated & the Elon Circus with Jessica Yellin 

Jessica Yellin and Amanda are together again to discuss the biggest news stories in what Jessica calls a “WTF week.” 

-How the latest tariffs will affect consumers, companies, and our electricity in the US

-The facts behind the potential government shutdown 

-The Elon Musk circus and the recent infomercial-esque promotion of Tesla by Trump

-The cuts to the Department of Education and what Project 2025 conservatives really want

Jessica Yellin is the founder of News Not Noise, a pioneering Webby award-winning independent news brand -- dedicated to helping you manage your “information overload.” She is the former chief White House correspondent for CNN and an Emmy, Peabody and Gracie Award-winning political correspondent. You can follow her on Instagram at Jessica Yellin. And also, to get real time, clear and brilliant reporting, go to substack.com and search for her page newsnotnoise and subscribe there.

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1. The inspiring pep talk Bozoma gives herself in the mirror – and why we might all want to start using it to rally ourselves.  

2. How to navigate the tightrope of corporate expectations for women: to be both self-assured and humble; both hard and soft. 

3. The revolutionary realization that you don’t have to be the savior of others – you can save yourself, too. 

4. How to know when to dig deep, and stay and fight for change – and when to stop digging and go – and the moment Bozoma knew it was time to leave Netflix.

5. Why our inability to forgive ourselves for wrong decisions keep us in bad situations – and how Boz’s “it’s not you, it’s me” philosophy can guide us out. 

About Bozoma: 

Bozoma Saint John is a Hall of Fame inducted Marketing Executive, author, entrepreneur, and general badass. Boz has led Global Consumer Marketing at Apple Music & iTunes; she was Chief Brand Officer at Uber; and Global Chief Marketing Officer at Netflix. Boz is currently named #1 Most Influential CMO in the world by Forbes, and has been named one of Billboard’s Most Powerful Women in Music for 10 consecutive years.

In 2021, Harvard Business School published a multi-media case study on her career, titled “Leading with Authenticity and Urgency”; through which she developed and taught a program at the University aptly named “The Anatomy of a Badass.” Boz was named as an Ambassador for the African Diaspora and Special Envoy to the President of Ghana. In the Spring of 2023, Penguin Books will publish her memoir, “The Urgent Life.” Boz counts her highest achievement as being a mother to her 12 year old daughter, Lael.

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392. Our New Book & Tour! The Secret’s Out (password for tour in pod)!

Today is a huge day for the We Can Do Hard Things Pod Squad! Abby, Amanda, and Glennon wrote a new book – We Can Do Hard Things: Answers to Life’s 20 Questions.  

Please pre-order the book now wherever you buy books or at treatmedia.com!

Glennon, Abby, and Amanda are also going on tour for the very first time together! Come, please. Bring a friend. This is what’s needed right now— to gather together—to be in the same room, to celebrate, to truth tell, to comfort each other, to create an evening full of joy, compassion and connection.  

They have ensured that you get the chance to get tickets before the tour goes on sale publicly, so please secure your seats today using the password/code thetour at treatmedia.com.  

Click this link and use password/code: thetour

*the password/code “thetour” is case sensitive, so please type it in all lowercase, no spaces*

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GLORIA STEINEM – who dedicates her life to ensuring we know that we are not broken, but were born into a system intended to break us – lives in the DNA of millions who are giving birth to movements or to themselves.

She reminds us why there’s nothing more radical than telling the truth of our lives, and listening to the truth of others’ lives. 

She reminds us that leaving our lives unlived is no badge of honor. 

She reminds us of the thirst-quenching, life-giving, revolutionary power of laughter.   

She reminds us of the three different kinds of laughter, and that we can do hard things – like laugh our way to liberation. 

About Gloria: 

Gloria Steinem is a writer, lecturer, political activist, and feminist organizer. She has spent decades traveling in this and other countries as an organizer and lecturer and is a frequent media spokeswoman on issues of equality. She is particularly interested in the shared origins of sex and race caste systems, gender roles and child abuse as roots of violence, non-violent conflict resolution, the cultures of Indigenous Peoples, and organizing across boundaries for peace and justice. She lives in New York City. 

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Award-winning journalist, Jessica Yellin, and Amanda are together in-person, broadcasting from Washington, D.C. where Jessica has been reporting on President Trump’s recent address to Congress. Today, they follow the money to show us where this administration's priorities are – plus, a way to help organizations who are making a difference in the fight for democracy. 

-How the U.S. is increasingly shifting away from allies and aligning with Russia

-The Oval Office ambush of President Zelensky and its fallout

-How Trump’s tariffs are negatively affecting the U.S. economy

-The effort to weaken Social Security & Medicaid and what it could mean for the future

Jessica Yellin is the founder of News Not Noise, a pioneering Webby award-winning independent news brand -- dedicated to helping you manage your “information overload.” She is the former chief White House correspondent for CNN and an Emmy, Peabody and Gracie Award-winning political correspondent. You can follow her on Instagram at Jessica Yellin. And also, to get real time, clear and brilliant reporting, go to substack.com and search for her page newsnotnoise and subscribe there.

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1. The Mother of Codependence shares the difference between healthy and unhealthy helping. 

2. The daily practice that helps Melody stop controlling others and “Let Life Happen.”

3. Why no one is able to gaslight you more than you. 

4. The one area of life where Codependence is necessary.

5. All four of us surrender to the truth that we will never be Codependent No More.

About Melody:

A pioneering voice in self-help literature, Melody Beattie is the author of many bestselling books, including Codependent No More – a #1 New York Times bestseller, which has sold over 7 million copies – as well as The Language of Letting Go, Playing It by Heart, The Grief Club, and Beyond Codependency. An updated edition of the bestselling, modern classic, Codependent No More, is available now. Melody lives in Southern California.

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390. Manifestation: Is it Real or BS? 

Today we have a treat for you. Abby’s excited, Glennon is nervous and Amanda’s skeptical because we are finally talking about…MANIFESTATION. What is it, is it BS, or could magic actually be real? We also discuss the deeper stories that the current interest in manifestation tells us about the culture and world we live in. 

-Is manifestation real and empowering or is it just another way to feel bad about ourselves? 

-If there’s a connection between neuroscience and manifestation

-Whether some of the disdain for or mistrust of manifestation *could* be rooted in sexism

-What individual manifestation misses and how we can use it for collective good

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Glennon and Abby welcome their dear friend Cameron Esposito to discuss:

1. Cameron’s brutiful relationship with her body–and how it feels playing a sexy TV role.

2. The way Cameron grew up using humor as self-defense and to become socially “valuable”–and the moment she wondered if comedy was no longer working for her. 

3. Why Cameron says she’s able to cry for the first time in 35 years. 

4. How as a gender-nonconforming queer kid, Cameron felt “overnoticed”–and how being a comedian allows her to “hide in plain sight."

5. The rule Cameron and Glennon made to help them become better at friendship.

CW: eating disorders

About Cameron:

Cameron Esposito is a queer, gender non-conforming standup comic, actor, writer and host.

As a standup, Cameron has headlined tours and festivals nationwide and internationally. As an actor and host, Cameron has been seen across television and film, appearing in big budget films and beloved Sundance indies, and on Netflix, HBO, NBC, ABC, CBS, FOX, Starz, Comedy Central, Logo, TBS, IFC, E! and Cartoon Network. Cameron's podcast, Queery, features hour long conversations with some of the brightest luminaries in the LGBTQ+ community, including Emmy and Grammy winning performers, Olympians, politicians, even an astronaut. Cameron's writing has been published by The New York Times, Vulture/New York Magazine, Vanity Fair, Bon Appetit, Refinery29 and more. Cameron's first book, Save Yourself, was an instant bestseller and is available in paperback March of 2022. Next up, Cameron is set to recur on the ABC series A Million Little Things and appear in HBOMax's Moonshot. Cameron lives in Los Angeles and likes to swim.

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389. One Change to Go From Being Time Poor to Time Rich with Cassie Holmes

Chaired professor at UCLA’s Anderson School of Management and best selling author, Cassie Holmes, discusses how much time is enough. She also shares how free time is linked to happiness – and the importance of defining your values to figure out how to spend your time. 

-The surprising statistic about how much time we spend distracted

-The surefire way to finally feel successful in life 

-How much free time you actually need to be happy

-An exercise you can do to help you avoid deathbed regret 

Cassie Holmes is a chaired professor at UCLA’s Anderson School of Management, an award-winning teacher and researcher on time and happiness, and bestselling author of Happier Hour: How to Beat Distraction, Expand Your Time, and Focus on What Matters Most. The course that she developed and now teaches, Applying the Science of Happiness to Life Design, is among UCLA’s most popular courses for graduate business students and executives.

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Elon’s Email Power Grab, What to Do & Why to Have Joy: Calm News with Jessica Yellin 

Award-winning journalist, Jessica Yellin, breaks down the latest news unfolding in the US and world. Today, Amanda and Jessica discuss Elon Musk’s unprecedented power grab—and what it means for democracy, national security, and your everyday life, as well as Germany’s recent elections, the relationship between the US, Ukraine, and Russia, and a little good news about a recent medical discovery to restore our faith in humanity.

-The new demand from Musk that panicked federal employees—and why some consider it a national security crisis

-What members of Congress are (and aren’t) doing to stop DOGE

-Two urgent actions you can take today to hold government officials accountable 

-Why joy is a powerful tool of resistance and how to find some today 

On Jessica: Jessica Yellin is the founder of News Not Noise, a pioneering, Webby award-winning independent news brand. Over 1M+ subscribers and followers across Instagram and other digital media rely on Jessica and News Not Noise to understand what matters, which experts to trust, and to manage their “information overload.” She is the former chief White House correspondent for CNN and an Emmy and Gracie Award-winning political correspondent for ABC, MSNBC, and CNN. Follow her on Instagram, Twitter, and Facebook @JessicaYellin. You can also find the News Not Noise Newsletter on Substack.

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388. LIVE from Mexico with Brandi and Catherine Carlile 

A big treat for you! In our first-ever live podcast recording from the Girls Just Wanna Weekend, Glennon and Abby welcome very special guests, Brandi Carlile and Catherine Carlile, to talk about courage, community, and how to approach all of life’s hard things. Plus, a special live performance of the We Can Do Hard Things theme song!

-How Brandi and Catherine think about building and joining communities 

-What the Girls Just Wanna Weekend is and why it’s so special

-Glennon, Abby, Brandi, and Catherine’s advice on self-forgiveness and growth

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1. Why Hannah describes her later-in-life Autism Spectrum Disorder diagnosis as “an exfoliation of shame.”

2. How neurodiversity affects Hannah’s relationships–and how she connects to the world through what’s “interesting” instead of what’s “important.”

3. Hannah’s revolutionary commitment to stop using self-deprecating humor about her body, sexuality, and gender–and why we might all consider the same commitment.

4. Why it’s easier for Hannah to share her personal stories “in bulk” on stage instead of one-on-one.

5. What it takes for Hannah to prepare for conversations–like ours on We Can Do Hard Things.

About Hannah:

Tasmania’s own Hannah Gadsby stopped stand-up comedy in its tracks with her multi-award-winning show, Nanette. When it premiered on Netflix in 2018, it left audiences captivated by her blistering honesty and her singular ability to take them from rolling laughter to devastated silence. Its release and subsequent Emmy and Peabody wins took Nanette (and Hannah) to the world. Hannah’s difficult second album (which was also her eleventh solo show) was named Douglas after her dog. Hannah walked Douglas around the world, selling out the Royal Festival Hall in London, the Opera House in Sydney and the Kennedy Center in DC, a sit-down run in New York and shows across the US, Europe, Australia and New Zealand. Douglas covered Hannah’s autism diagnosis, moving beyond the trauma at the centre of Nanette and instead letting the world see the view from Hannah’s brain – one that sees the world differently but with breathtaking clarity. The show was an Emmy-nominated smash hit and is available throughout the world on Netflix, recorded in Los Angeles. 

Hannah Gadsby’s “overnight” success was more than ten years in the making, with her award-winning stand-up shows having been a fixture in festivals across Australia and the UK since 2009. She played a character called “Hannah” on the TV series Please Like Me and has hosted multiple art documentaries, inspired by her comedy art lectures. In 2022, Hannah’s first book Ten Steps to Nanette: A Memoir Situation was published by Ballantine, an imprint of Penguin Random House, in the United States, Atlantic in the UK, and Allen & Unwin in Australia.

Hannah has done plenty of other things over the course of more than a decade in comedy, but that will do for now.

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387. Find Your “Tingle” & Live Wild with Justina Blakeney 

Multidisciplinary artist and designer – Justina Blakeney – joins Glennon, Abby, and Amanda to discuss living close to one's true self and Justina’s insights on self-expression and creativity. 

Discover: 

-How to know whether you’re having a spiritual awakening or a midlife crisis

-The beauty of being an outsider

-What to do when you get to the goal and say, “Now what?”

-How to balance creativity and discipline

More on Justina: Justina Blakeney is a multidisciplinary artist, designer, and New York Times Bestselling Author. She is the Founder and Chief Creative Officer of the home décor brand, Jungalow® and the author of several design books including Jungalow; Decorate Wild! and The New Bohemians book series. Justina lives in Los Angeles with her husband, Jason, their kiddo, Ida, her kitties, Juju and Nova, and 52 houseplants.

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What is Elon Musk Doing to America Today & What Can You Do About It? Calm News with Jessica Yellin

Award-winning journalist, Jessica Yellien, is back to walk us through what's going on right now in our country, and call our attention to very serious developments. We also discuss two things you can do to protect democracy and one thing you can do to protect yourself.

-The three main theories on why DOGE and Elon Musk are ruthlessly breaking down our government organizations 

-The reason why all the people on the left (from moderates to the most liberal) must come together right now

-Two actionable ways to protect our country and the one way to protect yourself financially today

-The government officials who are standing up for Democracy and how to best support them

On Jessica: Jessica Yellin is the founder of News Not Noise, a pioneering Webby award-winning independent news brand. Over 1M+ subscribers and followers across Instagram and other digital media rely on Jessica and News Not Noise to understand what matters, which experts to trust, and to manage their “information overload.” She is the former chief White House correspondent for CNN and an Emmy and Gracie Award-winning political correspondent for ABC, MSNBC and CNN. Follow her on Instagram, Twitter and Facebook @JessicaYellin. You can also find the News Not Noise Newsletter on Substack.

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386. How to Talk to Kids About Hard Things: Sonya Renee Taylor 

Sonya Renee Taylor returns to help us talk to kids about hard things like climate change, racial injustice, and sex.

-The three rules to keep in mind when talking to kids about sex or any complex topic

-Why sharing reality with your kids protects their self-esteem long-term

-How to buy yourself some time when your kid asks you a tough question 

-The best way to become a reliable narrator and guide for your child 

Sonya Renee Taylor is one of many hands currently called to midwife the new world. She is a guide, poet, storyteller, vision holder, intuitive astrologer, and evangelist of radical love. She is the author of seven books including the New York Times bestseller The Body Is Not an Apology: The Power of Radical Self Love and her most recent offering for young readers The Book of Radical Answers.

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1. How to recognize when you’re dysregulated – so you can slow down and help yourself.

2. The beauty and wisdom in being judgmental, and how that saved Chani’s life. 

3. The liberating idea that “The things that happened to me weren’t about me.”

4. How to set and trust boundaries in order to finally rest.

About Chani:

Chani Nicholas is a Los Angeles-based New York Times bestselling author of You Were Born For This: Astrology for Radical Self-Acceptance.

She has been a counseling astrologer for more than 20 years, guiding her community of over 1 million monthly readers to discover and live out their life’s purpose through understanding their birth chart.

Chani runs her company with her wife and business partner, Sonya Passi. Together they launched the CHANI app, which offers a personalized, daily understanding of their birth chart.

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385. The Science of Healing Heartbreak with Florence Williams 

Author and journalist, Florence Williams discusses the science of heartbreak and the key to healing. 

-The four crucial steps to take when recovering from heartbreak 

-What is actually happening in our bodies when we are heartbroken

-Glennon’s surprising revelations about her own heartbreak 

-How heartbreak and awe are intrinsically connected 

Florence Williams is author of "The Nature Fix" and, most recently, Heartbreak: A Personal and Scientific Journey. Florence explores the connections between humans and the natural world, and reveals the profound psychological and physiological benefits of rewilding our lives.

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Calm News with Jessica Yellin: Stay Sane AND Informed

By popular demand, we present Calm News with our dear friend, and Award-Winning Journalist, Jessica Yellin. Together, we explore a new approach to consuming the news that keeps you (and us) informed without winding up our nervous systems. 

-What to do if you find yourself on “the ride” of the news cycle

-Why calming your nervous system before consuming the news is crucial—and an effective way to do it

-The two top news stories you need to know about—and how to respond proportionately

-How to have a witnessing mindset when engaging with the news

On Jessica: Jessica Yellin is the founder of News Not Noise, a pioneering Webby award-winning independent news brand. Over 1M+ subscribers and followers across Instagram and other digital media rely on Jessica and News Not Noise to understand what matters, which experts to trust, and to manage their “information overload.” She is the former chief White House correspondent for CNN and an Emmy and Gracie Award-winning political correspondent for ABC, MSNBC and CNN. Follow her on Instagram, Twitter and Facebook @JessicaYellin. You can also find the News Not Noise Newsletter on Substack here: https://newsnotnoisejessicayellin.substack.com/

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384. Date Nights: Why they Suck & How to Make them Great

Glennon, Abby and Amanda delve into the nuances of salvaging a relationship’s spark or excitement and discuss the role of “date nights” in healthy relationships. 

Discover: 

-Why “date night” is NOT a panacea; 

-Jealousy’s role in our relationships; 

-Why many people have affairs; and

-How to “unknow” your partner and what that means.

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At the end of our first full year together, Glennon, Abby, and Amanda reflect on We Can Do Hard Things, this community, some of their favorite episodes, and they reshare the very first show:

1. The original idea for the podcast and how it’s evolved.

2. Glennon describes how an anxiety attack feels – and the 3 strategies that help her find calm.

3. Amanda shares some special “thank you” messages to Glennon, Abby, and the Pod Squad.

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383. Let Our Sundance-Winning Film Remind You What Love Is with Megan Falley

Glennon, Abby and Amanda sit down with poet and friend, Megan Falley, to discuss the magic that is their Sundance Award-Winning documentary film, Come See Me in The Good Light. The documentary follows Meg and her partner, Andrea Gibson, as they navigate a year of life, love, and living through an incurable cancer diagnosis. 

-How to make a gift of your suffering

-Why seeing yourself through the loving eyes of another can be life-changing

-Why frat guys are finally relating to queer poets

-What this movie has to do with body image and loving yourself

On Megan Falley: Megan is a nationally-ranked slam poet and the author of three full-length collections of poetry – most recently her book “Drive Here and Devastate Me”. Since transitioning to writing prose, excerpts from her memoir-in-progress have won several first- and second-place national prizes. She runs an online writing workshop called “Poems That Don’t Suck” which has been heralded as “a degree’s worth of education in 5 short weeks.”

On Andrea Gibson: Andrea is one of the most celebrated and influential spoken word artists of our time. Best known for their live performances, Andrea has changed the landscape of what it means to attend a “poetry show”. Andrea’s poems center around LGBTQ issues, spirituality, feminism, mental health, and social justice. Andrea is the author of seven books, most recently “You Better Be Lightning”. 

Previous appearances on the pod: 

215. The Bravest Conversation We’ve Had: Andrea Gibson

245. An Unforgettable Double Date with Andrea Gibson & Megan Falley

265. Megan Falley Knows What Love Is

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1. Mae, Glennon, Abby, and Amanda each explore their sexuality by delving into what sexually attracts each of them. 

2. The sex-positive way Mae’s parents taught them about sex – and orgasm(!) – and how they never made assumptions about Mae's sexuality. 

3. Gender as creative expression and a way to have fun.

4. Simple ways to switch up the monotony of routine; to transform boredom into exploration; and dopamine-infused alternatives for addictive personality types.

5. How fear of abandonment / fear of dependence can take over our lives. 

About Mae:

Mae Martin is an award-winning comedian, actor, writer, and producer who can be seen starring in Feel Good, which they also created and co-wrote. Mae is currently in development with their upcoming scripted project Programmed for Netflix and stars in season 2 of The Flight Attendant on HBO Max.

Mae Martin's Guide To… series about sexuality and addiction are available to listen to on BBC Sounds. Mae is also the author of Can Everyone Please Calm Down?: A Guide to 21st Century Sexuality.

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382. What If My Partner’s Jokes Hurt My Feelings?

Abby, Amanda, and Glennon get to forget their problems for a while as they answer your questions on relationships and anxiety. 

-How to know if your words are a hit or a hug

-What malicious joking reveals in a relationship

-Whether anxiety fuels art

-How Amanda and John have identified and dealt with off-limit topics in their marriage

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1. Sam’s life-changing strategies for (reluctantly) interacting with humans.

2. How we use humor to hide the lava of rage churning beneath our surface.

3. Sam’s friendship theory and why she doesn’t need a deep soul connection with every “lowercase f friend.”

4. Sam’s embrace of JOMO (Joy of Missing Out)–and why she genuinely believes no one else is having a better time (except maybe Abby).

5. The behind-the-scenes story of the “Fat Babe Pool Party” Shrill show–and why that episode was one of the most important things she’s ever written.

About Samantha:

Samantha Irby writes the "Bitches Gotta Eat" blog, and is the author of WOW, NO THANK YOU; WE ARE NEVER MEETING IN REAL LIFE; and MEATY. She has been a writer and/or co-producer for TV shows including And Just Like That, Work in Progress, Shrill, and Tuca & Bertie.

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381. Glennon: You Can’t F With Art & Other Parenting Lessons

In the midst of the LA Fires, Glennon, Abby, and Amanda take a moment to pause and reflect on a cozier time. In part two of this holiday discussion Glennon shares the life-changing lesson she got about love, control and parenthood and how that culminated in her gift from Abby. Amanda shares the unexpected way she learned more about her children this holiday season. 

-Why there is a safety net for your kids—and why (Spoiler Alert) it’s not you

-Why your kids may need a reminder of who you truly are—and that you’re okay

-The vibe Glennon is bringing into 2025—and how you can embrace it, too

-The surprising reason a road trip could be exactly what your family needs right now

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Today we’re talking about how to build healthy relationships — with ourselves and others — after enduring toxic relationships with both.

1. Signs of emotional toxicity in romantic relationships – and what finally made Lily get out of her unhealthy relationship.

2. How to begin reprogramming your brain after leaving a toxic relationship in order to trust yourself and other people again.

3. The process that caused Lily to become the smallest, quietest version of herself – and how she recovered into her biggest, brightest self.

4. What healthy conflict looks and feels like – and Lily’s new script for communicating when her old triggers arise.

CW: eating disorders, emotionally toxic relationships

About Lily: 

Lily Collins is a Golden Globe nominated actress, author of the international bestselling book “Unfiltered: No Shame, No Regrets Just Me”, and a philanthropist. Collins can currently be seen in the Netflix series “Emily in Paris,” for which she received her second Golden Globe nomination.Lily launched Case Study Films alongside her husband Charlie McDowell. Lily's philanthropic endeavors extend to participating in various “We Day” events and the GO Campaign. Born in West Sussex, England Collins moved to the United States at age six and currently resides in Los Angeles.

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380. Abby’s Greatest Fear & the One Gift that Freed Her

In the midst of the LA Fires, Glennon, Abby, and Amanda take a moment to pause and reflect on a cozier time. They discuss the holiday gift that Abby received that changed her life and shifted her story. 

-The powerful gift that helped Abby release her fear of hell and reconnect with her brother

-The importance of naming and rewriting the stories we tell ourselves in order to change our lives

-The role of religious trauma in shaping our worldview—and how to choose a more liberating path.

-How to rethink the “either/or” mindset and open up to bigger possibilities.

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In the conversation that’s meant the most to Glennon, Abby, and Amanda – poet and spoken word artist, Andrea Gibson makes the bravest announcement we’ve ever heard. Andrea shares how to boundlessly, relentlessly love our lives by: paying attention to the only thing we can control; letting go of living in fear; and feeling less alone and terrified through it all.

CW: Discussion of suicidal ideation

About Andrea: 

Andrea Gibson is one of the most celebrated and influential spoken word artists of our time. Best known for their live performances, Gibson has changed the landscape of what it means to attend a “poetry show”. Gibson’s poems center around LGBTQ issues, spirituality, feminism, mental health and the dismantling of oppressive social systems. Andrea is the author of seven books, most recently “You Better Be Lightning”. 

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IG: @andreagibson

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379. Post-Inauguration Family Meeting: How We Will Get Through with Brittney Cooper & Rebecca Traister 

Activists, writers, and organizers – Brittney Cooper and Rebecca Traister – join us to talk about the inauguration and what’s next. They share their thoughts, feelings, and advice on how to survive the next four years. 

-The historical playbook for what’s happening now and how we can utilize the wisdom of the past 

-Why you may need to have an adult temper tantrum right now (and how to safely do that) 

-The surprising reason it’s important to not resist the victory and accept defeat

On Brittney and Rebecca: 

Brittney Cooper is Professor of Gender Studies and Africana Studies at Rutgers University and author of the New York Times bestseller Eloquent Rage. 

Rebecca Traister is writer at large for New York Magazine and the author of New York Times bestsellers All the Single Ladies and Good and Mad, as well as the award winning Big Girls Don't Cry, about gender race and class in the 2008 elections.

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1. Tig and Stephanie’s highly effective and hilarious ways to diffuse their marital feuds.

2. Stephanie’s experience figuring out her sexuality (years after she married Tig)–and how Tig knew Stephanie was the one.

3. Why Tig’s deep in “Towanda-ing” right now–and how that affects their marriage.

4. The power of knowing what you DON’T want in your life.

5. Tig, Stephanie, Abby, and Glennon each share something they’ve discovered they don’t want.

About Stephanie: 

Stephanie Allynne is a writer, actor, producer, and director. Her acting credits include THE L WORD: GENERATION Q, ONE MISSISSIPPI, ROOM 104, DREAM CORP LLC, LOVE, and TWIN PEAKS. Stephanie also starred in the Sundance hits PEOPLE PLACES THINGS and Lake Bell’s IN A WORLD. Stephanie wrote on the critically acclaimed Amazon series ONE MISSISSIPPI, and co-directed the 2022 Sundance film AM I OK? starring Dakota Johnson and Sonoya Mizuno. Stephanie is currently set to write and direct the feature film TIME AND SPACE that will star Tig Notaro. She will produce alongside Notaro and Judd Apatow. 

IG: @stephanieallynne

About Tig: 

Tig Notaro is an Emmy and Grammy nominated stand-up comedian, writer, and actor. Rolling Stone named her one of the "50 best stand-up comics of all time." Notaro appears in "Army of the Dead" and “Star Trek: Discovery”; wrote and starred in the groundbreaking TV show “One Mississippi”. and recently released her second HBO stand-up special, "Tig Notaro: Drawn." In 2021, Tig co-directed, with wife Stephanie Allynne, the feature film 'Am I OK?', available later this year. She hosts the advice podcast "Don't Ask Tig", and cohosts the documentary film podcast "Tig and Cheryl: True Story."

IG: @therealfluffnotaro

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378. Are Old Women Really Irrelevant? 

Glennon, Abby and Amanda are talking with you, Pod Squad, about questions around women and aging and wtf “processing emotions” really means in action. 

-How becoming useless to the culture will set you free 

-The truth about how to stop people pleasing once and for all

-Personal tips for moving through an emotional wave. 

AND! If you would like some solicited advice, please reach out: 

If you have a problem you want to write about, email us at [email protected] with a subject line, SOLICITED ADVICE. 

If you want to share how a guest or an idea from the podcast has changed your life, email us at [email protected] with the subject line, MADE ME DO IT.

If you want to call in, give us a call and use the word, “ADVICE” at the top of your voice mail at 747-200-5307.

We can’t wait to hear from you!

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1. How to make the first friendship move – and how to move on from a friendship with kindness and clarity. 

2. The advice Reese passes down to her kids about the three types of people you meet in life. 

3. Reese’s Hollywood experience as a young woman – and the solidarity she found in the Time’s Up movement.

4. How Elle Woods – in all her iconic glory – hilariously showed up while Reese was on real-life jury duty. 

5. Where Reese, Abby, and Glennon come down on Glennon’s take that most women feel they are either too much or not enough. 

About Reese

Reese Witherspoon, is an award-winning actress, entrepreneur, producer, and New York Times bestselling author. She won an Academy Award® for her portrayal of June Carter Cash in Walk the Line and was later nominated in that same category for Wild in 2014, which she also produced. Witherspoon also starred in beloved films Sweet Home Alabama, Legally Blonde, and Election, as well as award-winning television series’ “Big Little Lies,” “Little Fires Everywhere,” and “The Morning Show.” Other film credits include Disney’s A Wrinkle in Time, Universal Pictures’ animated musical comedy Sing and Sing 2. In addition to her acting and producer roles, Witherspoon is an author and entrepreneur. In 2016, she established Hello Sunshine, a media brand and content company dedicated to female authorship and storytelling across all platforms. Hello Sunshine is also home to Reese’s Book Club and Reese’s YA Book Club, which focuses on storytelling with women at the center. Witherspoon recently sold Hello Sunshine to Blackstone in September 2021. Now Hello Sunshine is the cornerstone of a larger media company called Candle Media. Witherspoon is an advocate and activist for women’s issues across the globe.

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IG: @reesewitherspoon

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377. What Is Intuitive Eating? Evelyn Tribole on Trusting Your Body 

Glennon and Abby talk to renowned expert, Evelyn Tribole, about the principles of intuitive eating, the roots of diet culture, and the importance of self-trust in eating habits and overall well-being. 

Discover: 

-What intuitive eating is and three practical steps you can take to begin;

-The true origin of fat phobia & how it may be playing out in your life;

-How to re-discover your inner-compass; and 

-Why understanding your ‘body lineage' can heal your relationship with eating.

About Evelyn:

Evelyn Tribole, MS, RDN, CEDRD-S is the author of 10 books, including co-author of the

best-selling Intuitive Eating, a mind-body self-care eating framework, which has given rise

to over 200 studies to date. Her newest book is Intuitive Eating for Every Day: 365

Inspirations and Practices.

IG: @evelyntribole

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For their first (of hopefully many) podcast double dates, Abby and Glennon sit down with the icons, activists, and Olympians Megan Rapinoe and Sue Bird. In this honest and hilarious conversation, we find out:

1. The delightfully awkward moment Megan and Sue first met;

2. What’s hard for each of them right now;

3. The boundaries they’re working on together;

4. How they communicate and deal with jealousy; and 

5. How they help each other show up in the world as champions for change.  

About Sue: 

Regarded as the world’s premier point guard, Sue Bird is the WNBA’s All-Time Leader in Assists and known for being selfless, driven, encouraging, funny and smart. Bird is a seasoned veteran and a born leader who has dominated at every level. She is one of only seven women to win an Olympic Gold Medal (she’s won five), a World Championship Gold Medal (she’s won four) an NCAA Championship (she’s won two), and a WNBA Championship (she’s won four – the last just weeks before her 40th birthday). Sue is also a five-time Euroleague Champion, a twelve- time WNBA All-Star, was voted by the fans as one of the WNBA’s Top 15 Players of All Time. Off the court, Sue spends time as a basketball analyst for ESPN and as an outspoken and visible activist advocating for Black Lives, equality, health and wellness and expanding opportunities for girls and all marginalized people.

TW: @S10Bird

IG: @suebird10

About Megan: 

Two-time World Cup Champion and Olympic Gold Medalist, Megan Rapinoe is a fan favorite and one of the team’s most technical and craftiest players. A vocal leader on and off the pitch, Megan helped lead the USWNT to the 2019 Women’s World Cup Championship scoring some of the biggest goals of the tournament. Megan took home the tournament’s two top honors – the Golden Boot for top scorer, and the Golden Ball for the best player in the tournament. Megan is an advocate for equality for all and has been able to intersect her passion for humanity and authenticity. 

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IG: @mrapinoe

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376. LA Fires: Jessica Yellin Reports From Glennon’s Home

Jessica Yellin was forced to evacuate the LA Fires, and is sheltering at Glennon and Abby’s home. She sits down with Glennon and Amanda to report what is really going on with the wildfires raging across Los Angeles.  

-Why there wasn’t enough water to fight the Palisades Fire 

-How to decide what to put in your “go bag” and how Jessica packed up her house to evacuate 

-Misinformation and lapses of leadership and what LA needs right now from its leaders

-The connection between the fire and climate change

-Reputable places you can put your resources to help the people of Los Angeles

Also, please email us to let us know whether you’d like us to do a recurring News Not Noise segment on the pod with Jessica. Write to us at [email protected]. 

Ways to Help: 

LA Fire Foundation: https://supportlafd.org/

Help Altadena Families: spreadsheet curated by @mspackyetti: HERE

Jessica Yellin is the founder of News Not Noise, a pioneering Webby award-winning independent news brand. Over 1M+ subscribers and followers across Instagram and other digital media rely on Jessica and News Not Noise to understand what matters, which experts to trust, and to manage their “information overload.” She is the former chief White House correspondent for CNN and an Emmy and Gracie Award-winning political correspondent for ABC, MSNBC and CNN. Follow her on Instagram, Twitter and Facebook @JessicaYellin. You can also find the News Not Noise Newsletter on Substack HERE.

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In this beautiful conversation–in which Glennon names Cole’s book “This Here Flesh” the Next Right Book–we discuss: 

1. What we learned from Cole’s insight that, “If you’re not in your body, someone else is.” 

2. A mind-blowing revelation about all of our own faces that we will never stop thinking about. 

3. Why the phrase “If you don’t believe you’re beautiful, no one else will” is horseshit.  

4. Why dignity is the bedrock to being alive–and how to find it when we haven’t been loved well. 

5. The connection between fear and awe–and how to practice wonder as a cure for despair. 

About Cole: 

Cole Arthur Riley is a writer and poet. She is the author of the NYT bestseller, This Here Flesh: Spirituality, Liberation, and the Stories that Make Us. Her writing has been featured in The Atlantic, Guernica, and The Washington Post. Cole is also the creator and writer of Black Liturgies, a project that integrates spiritual practice with Black emotion, Black literature, and the Black body. 

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IG: @colearthurriley @blackliturgies

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375. How to Stop Worrying with Martha Beck

Martha Beck shares more on how to lessen anxiety’s grip by coaching Amanda, Abby and Glennon out of their anxiety spirals.

Discover: 

-How to uncover the heart of your deepest fear

-How to tell whether something is truly enlightening or dangerously false

-The surprising power of living in a state of “I don’t know”

Dr. Martha Beck, PhD, is a New York Times bestselling author, coach, and speaker. She holds three Harvard degrees in social science, and Oprah Winfrey has called her “one of the smartest women I know.” Martha is a passionate and engaging teacher, known for her unique combination of science, humor, and spirituality. Her recent book, The Way of Integrity: Finding the Path to Your True Self, was an instant New York Times Best Seller and an Oprah’s Book Club selection. Her new book, Beyond Anxiety: Curiosity, Creativity, and Finding Your Life’s Purpose, is available now.

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Glennon, Abby, and Amanda help us shed guilt through a freeing reframe inspired by a conversation with Dr. Becky Kennedy.

Listen to learn: How to know what is true guilt and what is just the uncomfortable ickiness of defying expectations; how to hold boundaries in order to live shamelessly within our own values; and how to maintain empathy by staying with our own emotions instead of internalizing the emotions of others. 

Also, we need your help inventing a word for the “not guilt” feeling! 

Get Dr. Becky Kennedy's "Good Inside Guilt Guide," to find out if what you're feeling is truly "guilt" or something else, here: https://forms.gle/Aad1g5LSBNFZoXaN6.

Check out our past conversations with Dr. Becky Kennedy, and the Dr. Brené Brown episodes we talk about today: 

Ep 170 The Most Radical Way to Heal: Internal Family Systems with Dr. Becky Kennedy;

Ep 169 Why We Love the Way We Love: Attachment Styles with Dr. Becky Kennedy; 

Ep 131 How to Raise Untamed Kids with Dr. Becky Kennedy; 

Ep 130 Breaking Cycles and Reparenting Yourself with Dr. Becky Kennedy;

Ep 88 Brené Brown & Barrett Guillen: Sisters Double Date;

Ep 83 Brené Brown: What to Say to Get What You Need;

Ep 49 Dr. Brené Brown: On Holding Boundaries & Facing Our Fears; and 

Ep 48 Dr. Brené Brown: How to Know Ourselves & Be Known By Our People.

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374. Life Beyond Anxiety with Martha Beck

Martha Beck, bestselling author and life coach, returns to discuss anxiety including actionable strategies for quelling it and achieving a state of calm. This episode is part one of two. Come back next time, to hear Martha coach Amanda, Abby and Glennon out of an anxiety spiral. 

Discover: 

-The one powerful question to ask yourself to start breaking free from anxiety

-Martha’s surprising take on the antidote to anxiety

-The biggest lie anxiety tells us—and how to uncover the truth

-Why nature, creativity, and your senses hold the key to calm

Dr. Martha Beck, PhD, is a New York Times bestselling author, coach, and speaker. She holds three Harvard degrees in social science, and Oprah Winfrey has called her “one of the smartest women I know.” Martha is a passionate and engaging teacher, known for her unique combination of science, humor, and spirituality. Her recent book, The Way of Integrity: Finding the Path to Your True Self, was an instant New York Times Best Seller and an Oprah’s Book Club selection. Her new book, Beyond Anxiety: Curiosity, Creativity, and Finding Your Life’s Purpose, is available now.

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1. Five signs that you might have a boundary problem.

2. Why each of us should stop pretending we’re not a needy person.

3. How to stop arguing like a lawyer – and start communicating like a kindergartener – to get what you need. 

4. How to know when to end an argument, how to exit a friendship, and how to respond to passive aggressiveness. 

About Nedra:

Nedra Glover Tawwab, MSW, LCSW, is a New York Times best-selling author, licensed therapist, and sought-after relationship expert. She has practiced relationship therapy for 15 years and is the founder and owner of the group therapy practice, Kaleidoscope Counseling. Every day she helps people create healthy relationships by teaching them how to implement boundaries. Her philosophy is that a lack of boundaries and assertiveness underlie most relationship issues, and her gift is helping people create healthy relationships with themselves and others.

Nedra earned her undergraduate and graduate degrees from Wayne State University in Detroit, MI. She has additional certifications in working with families and couples and in perinatal mood and anxiety disorders, plus advanced training for counseling adults who've experienced childhood emotional neglect.

Nedra has appeared as an expert on Red Table Talk, The Breakfast Club, Good Morning America, and CBS Morning Show to name a few. Her work has been highlighted in The New York Times, The Guardian, and Vice and has appeared on numerous podcasts, including Good Life Project, Sofia with an F, and Therapy For Black Girls. She runs a popular Instagram account where she shares practices, tools, and reflections for mental health and hosts weekly Q&As.

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1. The moment Abby – as Christen’s USWNT roommate – walked into their hotel room and knew Christen was very different than any soccer player she’d ever known. 

2. The boundary that helps Christen love her people while protecting herself.

3. Christen’s take on death and how to keep the people we’ve lost alive in our lives.

4. How to show our people (including our little athletes) that we love them for who they are, not what they achieve.

5. The day Christen knew she was ready to fight for – and win – pay equity for the US Women’s National Team. 

About Christen:

Christen Press is a two-time World Cup Champion and Olympian, as well as a leading forward at Los Angeles Angel City FC. An entrepreneur and advocate for inclusivity, Christen, along with US Women’s National teammates – Megan Rapinoe, Tobin Heath, and Meghan Klingenberg – launched their company re—inc, a purpose-driven, global lifestyle brand. Christen was one of the key players leading the charge for the “Equal Play, Equal Pay” campaign to highlight the pay discrepancy between the women’s and men’s national teams, which led to the new CBA agreement – and to her role as Player Representative for the US Women's National Team Players Association.

IG: @christenpress

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Amanda, Glennon and Abby explore how to survive the lifelong, universal pain of being left out:

• What Abby felt when she heard “We don’t want you here” – and its long-lasting impact; 
• Why it is so painful, and how to process feelings of rejection and isolation;
• How dissociation helped Glennon cope with rejection in the cafeteria; 
• What parents should and *should not* do when helping kids navigate exclusion; and 
• The real difference between “fitting in” and “belonging.” 

Also check out Episode 179: How to Fix Our Loneliness with Dr. Marisa G. Franco

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1. Abby shares with Sara the great personal impact Sara’s music has made on her life.

2. Sara and Glennon bond over the joy of solitude, the underrated gifts of being heavy-hearted, and the fact that “there are too many things to be worried about at all times” to be lighthearted.

3. When you are in deep stress, do you try to sabotage your job, relationship, etc.? (Before this conversation, Amanda thought it was just her.)

4. How playfulness and joy – connecting to the little kid who grew up into you – are vital to loving yourself. 

5. Sara’s beautiful journey with medication for depression and anxiety – and how she learned her anxiety often arises from an unexpressed need. 

About Sara:

Sara Bareilles is a Tony Award and Emmy Award nominated actor, and Grammy Award winning singer and songwriter.

On Broadway, Sara composed music and lyrics for Waitress, in which she was also the lead. Sara also produced original music and executive produced the musical drama series Little Voice. She plays Dawn Solano on the Emmy-nominated musical comedy series Girls5eva, and stars as The Baker’s Wife in the Broadway revival Into the Woods.

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IG: @sarabareilles

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Glennon, Abby, Amanda and the Pod Squad share their most brutiful and hilarious holiday stories.

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1. Thinking of depression as a way of seeing the world … through toilet paper roll binoculars. 

2. Why healing might actually just be permission to go. 

3. Chanel’s definition of success: refusing to succumb to perfection or exhaustion–and showing up as herself in every moment.

4. The healing moment when Chanel returned to Stanford and was held in sound–which set her free.

About Chanel: 

Chanel Miller is a writer and artist who received her BA in Literature from the University of California, Santa Barbara. Her critically acclaimed memoir, KNOW MY NAME, was a New York Times bestseller, a New York Times Book Review Notable Book, and a National Book Critics Circle Award winner, as well as a best book of 2019 in Time, the Washington Post, the Chicago Tribune, NPR, and People, among others. She is a 2019 Time Next 100 honoree and a 2016 Glamour Woman of the Year honoree under her pseudonym, “Emily Doe.”

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372. The Presley Family Legacy with Riley Keough

Glennon, Abby, and Amanda sit down with Riley Keough to explore her journey through love, loss, and healing within her family. Riley talks about co-authoring her mother Lisa Marie Presley's memoir, From Here to the Great Unknown: A Memoir, which recounts Lisa Marie’s life as the daughter of Elvis Presley, her career, her own family, and everything in between. Riley also shares how she is finding purpose and strength amidst profound loss.

Discover:

-The unfinished family work Riley is closing for her mother and grandfather

-The way Riley’s experience loving people with addictions and grief shaped her understanding of love and resilience

-How Riley names the profound sadness and generational trauma within her family

-The inherent conflict between Lisa Marie and her mom, and how Riley finds compassion for them both.

On Riley: Riley Keough is an Emmy, Golden Globe, and Independent Spirit Award–nominated actress. She is known for her work in Daisy Jones & the Six, Zola, and more. She also co-directed War Pony (2022), and cofounded the production company Felix Culpa with Gina Gammell. She is the eldest daughter of Lisa Marie Presley and sole trustee of Graceland. Her new book - From Here to the Great Unknown—written in both Lisa Marie’s and Riley’s voices, a mother and daughter communicating—from this world to the one beyond—as they try to heal each other – is available now.

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What is gaslighting REALLY and what isn’t? 

Plus, how to know if you’re in a relationship with a gaslighter, the three types of gaslighters, and how to break free from a gaslighter and reclaim yourself. 

About Dr. Stern: 

Robin Stern, Ph.D., is the co-founder and associate director for the Yale Center for Emotional Intelligence and an associate research scientist at the Child Study Center at Yale. She is a licensed psychoanalyst with 30 years of experience treating individuals, couples, and families. She is the author of The Gaslight Effect Recovery Guide: Your Personal Journey Toward Healing from Emotional Abuse. 

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IG: @dr.robinstern

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371. I’m a Sociopath: Patric Gagne’s Story 

Patric Gagne – writer, former therapist, diagnosed sociopath, and advocate for people with sociopathic, psychopathic, and antisocial personality disorders – shares 

-What sociopathy is and how it shows up in her life;

-The shocking statistic of how many people are sociopathic;

-How her diagnosis affects her experience as a wife and mother; and

-The ways in which sociopathy is actually a superpower.

About Patric: 

PATRIC GAGNE is a writer, former therapist, and advocate for people with sociopathic, psychopathic, and anti-social personality disorders. Her New York Times best-selling memoir, Sociopath, shares her struggle to understand her own sociopathy and shed light on this often-maligned and misunderstood mental disorder. 

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370. How to Know if You’re in a Cult with Tia Levings (Pt. 2)

Glennon, Amanda, and Abby welcome back Tia Levings for part two of this amazing conversation on her experience leaving a high control Christian Fundamentalist cult. Tia shares her experience leaving the church and her husband and offers advice for others in a similar situation. 

Discover: 

-The life-saving power of women sharing their stories—and why it threatens patriarchy

-How she finally heard her own voice—and how you can find yours, too

-Why people crave fundamentalism—and a solution they’re searching for

-Tia’s life-saving advice for women escaping abuse or high-control groups

More on Tia: Tia Levings is the New York Times Bestselling author of A Well-Trained Wife, her memoir of escape from Christian Patriarchy. She writes about the realities of Christian fundamentalism, evangelical patriarchy, and religious trauma. She also appeared in the hit Amazon docu-series, Shiny Happy People. Based in North Carolina, she is mom to four incredible adults and likes to travel, hike, paint, and daydream. Find her on social media @TiaLevingsWriter.

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1. Alex’s four most effective healing techniques that you can start today. 

2. How it affects us to grow up never seeing our mothers have joy. 

3. Why – if you think you don’t have any self-soothing strategies – you actually just have unhealthy self-soothing strategies. 

4. Childhood wounds that surface in adulthood, and the path to intergenerational healing. 

5. Where to begin when you never receive the apology and closure you deserve.

About Alex:

Alex Elle is an author, certified breathwork coach, podcast host, and Restorative Writing teacher. Alex’s writing came into her life by way of therapy and the exploration of healing through journaling and mindfulness. Her most recent book, HOW WE HEAL, is available now.

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369. Trad Wife Cults: How Tia Levings Escaped (Pt 1)

Glennon, Amanda, and Abby sit down with Tia Levings, NYT bestselling author, to discuss her experience in a high control Christian Fundamentalist cult: her journey from indoctrination to freedom to healing from religious trauma.

Discover: 

-Why strong women are often drawn into Christian extremism—and how they can break free

-Why parents are taught to hit infants, and husbands are taught to spank their wives

-The hidden agenda behind why Christian Fundamentalists encourage large families

-The moment Glennon busted her kids out of Christian school

-The eerie crossover of wellness culture and Christian extremism

More on Tia: Tia Levings is the New York Times Bestselling author of A Well-Trained Wife, her memoir of escape from Christian Patriarchy. She writes about the realities of Christian fundamentalism, evangelical patriarchy, and religious trauma. She also appeared in the hit Amazon docu-series, Shiny Happy People. Based in North Carolina, she is mom to four incredible adults and likes to travel, hike, paint, and daydream. Find her on social media @TiaLevingsWriter.

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368. The Closure Myth: How Do We Really Move On? 

Abby, Glennon and Amanda delve into your voicemails and discuss matters of the broken heart, closure, self-sabotage, moving toward or away from family, and more. 

Discover: 

• Glennon’s “magical pessimism” 
• Why creative people do not seek out closure 
• The geographical solution or finding the “right” place to live

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1. What Melissa’s parents said when she told them about her dream – and how those magic words set the course of Melissa’s life.

2. The green and red flags Melissa tells her kids to look for in a relationship.

3. Why Melissa is a shark, and her brilliant strategy to “Run Around the Block” in almost any difficult situation. 

4. Melissa’s and Abby’s experiences with ghosts.

5. How Melissa learned about sex – and the way she talks to her kids about it.

About Melissa:

Melissa McCarthy is an award-winning writer, producer, and actor. Her work includes Bridesmaids, Can You Ever Forgive Me?, Ghostbusters,The Heat; Identity Thief; This is 40, The Hangover Part III, The Starling, “Gilmore Girls”, and “Samantha Who?”. She won an Emmy Award and People’s Choice Award for her role in “Mike & Molly” as well as an Emmy for “Saturday Night Live”. 

Melissa and her husband Ben Falcone founded On the Day Productions and have produced Tammy, The Boss, Life of the Party, “Nobodies,” “Little Big Shots,” Superintelligence , Thunder Force, “God’s Favorite Idiot,” and Bob Ross: Happy Accidents, Betrayal & Greed.

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367. Glennon’s Dramatic Social Media Plan with Amelia Hruby

Today, we’re finally doing it: talking about leaving social media. On the episode you’ll hear Glennon, Abby and Amanda chat with their guest, Amelia Hruby about the challenges and impacts of social media on mental health, personal relationships, community building, and self-worth. Glennon shares her experience of stepping away from social media and possible next steps. 

Discover: 

-How social media is linked to codependency and anxious attachment 

-The two must-do practices to evaluate your current relationship to social media 

-How to navigate the fear of missing out (FOMO) and stay connected without social media

-Glennon’s journey to leaving socials and what she is thinking of doing next 

More on Amelia: Amelia Hruby is a writer, educator and podcaster with a PhD in philosophy. She is the founder of Softer Sounds, a feminist podcast studio for entrepreneurs and creatives. And she’s the host of Off the Grid, a podcast about leaving social media without losing all your clients.

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1. Glennon gives you a beautiful Thanksgiving pep talk that has Amanda and Abby nodding along and rolling with laughter.

2. Why Amanda suggests that we can be free to be our full selves at the Thanksgiving table, if we also each bring our own damn casserole.

3. Why the best predictor of how a family member is going to act is how a family member has always acted.

4. We’re taking holiday-themed questions from our beloved Pod Squad about in-laws, when to break tradition, and how to navigate different family of origin patterns.

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Glennon’s hilarious misunderstanding with a TSA agent she’ll remember 'til she dies; Amma’s delightful response when Abby rushed onto the soccer field; and the delight Amanda experienced the day she switched it all up by not freaking out.

This episode was inspired by our conversation with Ross Gay – if you missed it, check out: Episode 216 How to Find DELIGHT Today (and Every Day) with Ross Gay. 

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366. Debunking #Goals: Changing the Way We Set Goals

Abby, Glennon, and Amanda discuss the concept of setting goals and whether having rigid expectations for our future can be detrimental. 

Discover: 

• The psychological undercurrent of setting goals 
• Glennon envisions her 70-year old self 
• Should we live for the future? 
• The ways in which we seek control over our lives

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The Office co-stars and best friends, Jenna Fischer and Angela Kinsey, are doing the ultimate Office-lovers podcast for you. Each week Jenna and Angela will dive deeper into The Office giving you access to even more behind the scene details, interviews and lots of stories that only two best friends who were there, can tell you.

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365. Malcolm Gladwell: Are We at a National Tipping Point?

Glennon, Abby, and Amanda welcome Malcolm Gladwell to discuss the concept of the 'tipping point' and its impact on societal change. They delve into how stories shape public perception and behavior, and explore ways we could create a unified narrative for societal progress.

Discover: 

-The shocking statistics that prove we aren’t actually as divided as we’re told we are

-The danger of a monoculture and why diversity can literally be life-saving

-The magic rule of three and what it means for making change

-A powerful argument against pessimism

Malcolm Gladwell is the author of seven New York Times bestsellers: The Tipping Point, Blink, Outliers, What the Dog Saw, David and Goliath, Talking to Strangers, and The Bomber Mafia. He is also the co-founder of Pushkin Industries, an audio production company that produces audiobooks like Miracle and Wonder: Conversations with Paul Simon, as well as podcasts including Revisionist History, Broken Record, and The Happiness Lab. Gladwell has been included in the Time 100 Most Influential People list and His latest book is Revenge of the Tipping Point: Overstories, Superspreaders, and the Rise of Social Engineering.

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Ross Gay teaches us how to notice delight and joy in our everyday lives. We discuss: concrete ways to rediscover and capture joy every day; how to rebuild your “delight muscle”; how to dissolve the myth of disconnection between us; and how to “unknow” our people so we can delight in them.

About Ross: 

Ross Gay is an American poet, essayist, and professor committed to healing the world through observing and articulating joy, delight and gratitude. He won the National Book Critics Circle Award for Poetry and the Kingsley Tufts Poetry Award for his 2014 book, Catalog of Unabashed Gratitude, which was also a finalist for the National Book Award for Poetry. A devoted community gardener, Ross is a founding board member of the Bloomington Community Orchard, a non-profit, free-fruit-for-all food justice and joy project. A college football player, he is a founding editor of the online sports magazine Some Call it Ballin'. 

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364. Cher is Here! 

The global icon, Cher is here! Cher talks to Glennon, Abby, and Amanda about: 

-The truth about the ending of her relationship with Sonny

-The advice Lucille Ball gave her that saved her life (and how she paid it forward) 

-Her regrets from when Chaz came out to her 

-How she survived emotionally abusive relationships & her advice for how to get out

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363. Glennon: Is it Insanity or Life?

Glennon discusses an existential and emotional revelation with Abby and Amanda.

Discover: 

• Diving into the abyss; what is the abyss and what does it mean? 
• The time a child’s soccer triumph left Glennon in tears
• Growing out of coping mechanisms
• Metabolizing the “muchness” of being alive and big feelings

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Melody Beattie shares the difference between healthy and unhealthy helping:

- The daily practice that helps Melody stop controlling others and “Let Life Happen.”

- Why no one is able to gaslight you more than you. 

- The one area of life where Codependence is necessary.

- All four of us surrender to the truth that we will never be Codependent No More.

About Melody

A pioneering voice in self-help literature, Melody Beattie is the author of many bestselling books, including Codependent No More – a #1 New York Times bestseller, which has sold over 7 million copies – as well as The Language of Letting Go, Playing It by Heart, The Grief Club, and Beyond Codependency. An updated edition of the bestselling, modern classic, Codependent No More, is available now. Melody lives in Southern California.

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362. Make Rest Your Revolution with Tricia Hersey

Tricia Hersey (artist, theologian, poet, activist) returns; Abby, Glennon and Amanda talk to Tricia about her foundations, philosophies and approaches to resistance through the medium of rest: 

Discover:

• Tricia talks about the founding of the Nap Ministry; what she learned from her grandmother
• Tricia discusses her 2024 book, We Will Rest! The Art of Escape
• Why trickster/dreamer energy is essential to revolutionary thinking 
• Deconstructing the system using somatics, education and community 
• The craft of authentic listening and trusting your intuition

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361. Post-Election Family Meeting 

Glennon, Abby, and Amanda speak from the heart the morning after the results of the 2024 election. They share how they’re thinking and feeling, what this means, what comes next, and how we can better show up for each other. We love you, Pod Squad. Thank you for being our community.

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360. Elizabeth Warren: The Election Day Convo Everyone Needs

On this important Election day, we’re honored to welcome Senator Elizabeth Warren. She explains why, if you’re voting with your wallet—thinking about your grocery bills, medical bills, childcare costs, rent or mortgage, elder care, or student loans—your vote should go to Kamala Harris and Tim Walz.

Discover:

• The real reason egg prices are so high (it’s not just inflation) + Harris’s plan to lower the cost of food 
• The top three ways Kamala Harris will address the housing crisis
• VP Harris’s approach to investing in childcare, paid family leave, and eldercare
• Why healthcare alone is a reason to vote: what’s at stake if Kamala wins—or loses

More on Senator Warren: Elizabeth Warren, the senior Senator from Massachusetts, is a fearless consumer advocate and one of the nation’s leading progressive voices, fighting for big structural change that would transform our economy and rebuild the middle class. Before becoming the first woman ever elected to the Senate from Massachusetts in 2012, Elizabeth led the fight to create the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau, an agency established in the aftermath of the financial crisis to protect consumers from predatory financial practices. Elizabeth lives in Cambridge, Massachusetts, with her husband Bruce and their golden retriever, Bailey.

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Hi Podsquad. Today, we’re honored to sit down with Pete Buttigieg to discuss the four magic words that could change the election and the hearts of those you love.

Discover:

-The powerful antidote to the political tribalism dividing families and communities

-How to make love your guiding force in the crucial days ahead

-The surprising truth about why even Pete is exhausted by constant political talk—and how to finally move past it

-Why politics are personal, and how they impact every part of our lives

More on Pete: The first openly gay person confirmed to serve in a president’s Cabinet, Buttigieg previously served two terms as mayor of his hometown, South Bend, Indiana, where he worked across the aisle to transform the city’s future. Household income grew, poverty fell, and unemployment was cut in half.He also served for seven years as an officer in the U.S. Navy Reserve, taking a leave of absence from the mayor’s office for a deployment to Afghanistan in 2014.The son of Joseph Buttigieg, who immigrated to the United States from Malta, and Jennifer Anne Montgomery, a fifth-generation Hoosier, Buttigieg is a graduate of Harvard University and Oxford, where he was a Rhodes Scholar and completed a degree in philosophy, politics, and economics. He lives with his husband Chasten, their two children, Gus and Penelope, and their dog.

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359. What We Don’t Talk About: Raising Older Kids

Glennon, Abby and Amanda discuss the nuances and complexities of being parents to older children. 

Discover: 

• Glennon’s experience losing herself in parenting 
• Amanda recalls the moment she saw her Dad as a human being 
• How to support your kid’s individuation
• Finding belonging outside of the parental role

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Glennon, Abby, and Amanda remember – and share! – the best advice they’ve ever received:

- How to honor your needs and become the ultimate expert of you; 

- Why we all need a friend who believes in our greatness;

- How to encourage your kids to live open-hearted; and

- Why Glennon’s truest thing is that she doesn’t know anything. 

Plus, we hear from two pod treasures – Sara Bareilles and Glennon’s 7th grade government teacher, Mrs. Yalen – on their best advice.

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358. Gillian Anderson: How to Get What You Want (in Bed and in Life)

Icon Gillian Anderson joins Glennon, Abby, and Amanda to talk about everything from sexual fantasies to why she says “F you” to wellness culture. With wit, honesty, and an intoxicating spirit of rebellion, Gillian inspires us to ask for what we want—both in the bedroom and in life. This is a conversation that will make you feel bolder and more connected to your own desires.

-How our fantasies reflect the culture we live in;

-Why rebelling against societal norms can be so freeing; and 

-The emotional moments that left Gillian in tears. 

About Gillian: 

Gillian Anderson is an award-winning film, television and theater actor, producer and director. Among other honors, she has won two Primetime Emmy Awards, two Golden Globe Awards, three Screen Actors Guild Awards and an Evening Standard Theatre Award. In addition to her acting work, Gillian is also globally recognized as a respected activist and charity campaigner, previously co-authored the Sunday Times bestseller We: A Manifesto for Women Everywhere with Jennifer Nadel, and in 2023 founded the wellness drinks brand G-Spot which encourages women to embrace their unique power. In 2016 Anderson was appointed an honorary OBE (Order of the British Empire) for her services to drama. She lives in London with her three children.

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357. The Power of No to Protect Your Peace 

Glennon, Amanda, and Abby are back with practical tips and tools to help you shift your Yeses and Maybes into Nos, while still being kind and even increasing connections. 

Discover: 

-The game-changing shift from "I can’t" to "I don’t";

-How to say No and avoid both current and future FOMO;

-Practical examples and phrases you can implement to make saying No easier; and

-The shocking statistic on the difference explaining your ‘No’ makes.

To listen to part one of the conversation, check out episode 356, How to Say No

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In honor of Breast Cancer Awareness month – 25 weeks post surgery and outrageously grateful to be cancer free – Amanda revisits an episode from the messy middle of her breast cancer diagnosis. In this raw conversation, she talks candidly through her fears while trying to figure out what really matters for her health and life. This is a powerful conversation to share with any breast cancer survivor anyone in the messy middle of battling it now. 

To listen to the first part of this conversation with Amanda, go to: Episode 309 Amanda’s Diagnosis & What’s Next (Pt. 1).

And for more episodes on Breast Cancer Awareness, please also check out: 

Episode 316 Amanda Returns Post Surgery: Here’s What She Wants You To Know

Episode 317 What Amanda’s Learned About Life, Love & Community (Post Surgery Pt 2) 

Episode 320 Early Detection, Mammograms & Breast Cancer Care with Dr. Rachel Brem

Episode 321 Expert Advice on Genetic Testing, Cancer Prevention & Care Disparities with Dr. Rachel Brem

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356. How to Say No

Glennon, Amanda, and Abby tackle an essential life skill: Learning how – and when – to say No. 

Discover: 

-The concept of false urgency and why it’s a red flag;

-How your values can help you find your Yes’s and No’s;

-What you’re really saying when you say, “I should”; and

-How to know if you’re being generous in an authentic way or just out of guilt.

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355. Gov. Tim Walz! 

Governor Tim Walz joins Glennon, Abby, and Amanda – with 19 days remaining until the election – to tell us: 

- WHO should be making decisions about women's bodies;

- HOW the Harris-Walz administration plans to protect queer kids and feed all kids; and

- WHAT they'll do to make our schools safe from gun violence.

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In this unplanned conversation, Amanda speaks up for everyone who’s been labeled a “Control Freak” – anyone who feels like they have to hold up the entire sky for their families or businesses – when what they really want is to feel supported and safe. Amanda shares vulnerably about: how she became an overfunctioner, the blessings and curses of being one, and the practical strategies she’s using to let go – and what her partner is doing to make her feel like she can finally try to relax.  

If this episode resonates, go back and listen to OVERWHELM: Is our exhaustion a sign that we’re CareTicking time bombs? 

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354. How to Make Loving Corrections with adrienne maree brown

adrienne marie brown returns to discuss how to make loving corrections with the people in your life. 

Discover: 

-The three essential human needs—and what happens when we don’t get them

-How to break free from the need to be “good” and find something better

-What defines a loving correction (and what doesn’t)

-Why acting as a protector for others reveals deep truths about your own healing journey

On the guest: adrienne maree brown grows healing ideas in public through writing, music, and podcasts, nurturing Emergent Strategy, Pleasure Activism, Radical Imagination and Transformative Justice. adrienne’s work is informed by 25 years of social and environmental justice facilitation primarily supporting Black liberation. adrienne is the author/editor of Emergent Strategy: Shaping Change, Changing Worlds; Pleasure Activism: The Politics of Feeling Good; Grievers; and Maroons.

adrienne’s latest book Loving Corrections is available now.

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353. How We’ll Save Abortion: A Must-Listen with Jessica Valenti

Amanda, Glennon and Abby sit down with award-winning writer and activist Jessica Valenti to discuss the state of abortion rights in the United States. 

Discover: 

-The staggering statistic revealing overwhelming public support for abortion in America

-Why the anti-choice movement is desperate to keep abortion off the ballot

-Why abortion is a litmus test for the future of democracy in America

-The exodus of doctors from anti-choice states and the rise in maternal mortality rates. 

More on Jessica:  Jessica Valenti is an award-winning author and activist. She’s the author of seven books, including the New York Times bestseller Sex Object: A Memoir. Her groundbreaking anthology, Yes Means Yes: Visions of Female Sexual Power and a World Without Rape, paved the way for legislation of the same name, setting what’s now considered the gold standard for sexual consent. Jessica has also been credited with sparking feminism’s online wave by founding the trailblazing blog Feministing. She’s been a columnist for The Guardian and The Nation, and her writing has been published everywhere from The New York Times and The Atlantic to Bitch magazine and The Toast. After the demise of Roe, Jessica founded Abortion, Every Day, an urgent synthesis of anything and everything happening with abortion rights in the United States. She lives in Brooklyn with her husband and daughter.

More about Jessica’s Work: 

-https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/772254/abortion-by-jessica-valenti/

-https://jessica.substack.com/

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1. Jen describes the shock of losing her 26-year marriage overnight. 

2. How, looking back, Jen sees that she knew something was wrong in her relationship well before she “knew” something was wrong – and the moment she reached out to Glennon to share it for the first time.  

3. Why Jen’s friends told her she was a “human spotlight” and “cleanup crew” in her marriage – and the pain of realizing she was powerful in every role other than wife.  

4. How Jen convinced herself that her marriage was enough when in reality she felt like a pot of water slowly building to a boil. 

5. The common hell of being lonely inside of marriage – and why we won’t be fully honest with ourselves, our partners, or our friends about what we are most afraid of.  

About Jen: 

Jen Hatmaker is the New York Times bestselling author of For the Love and Fierce, Free, and Full of Fire, along with twelve other books. She hosts the award-winning For the Love podcast, is the delighted curator of the Jen Hatmaker Book Club, and leader of a tightly knit online community where she reaches millions of people each week. Jen is a co-founder of Legacy Collective, a giving organization that grants millions of dollars toward sustainable projects around the world. She is a mom to five kids and lives happily just outside Austin, Texas.

To learn more about Jen, visit www.jenhatmaker.com.

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352. Which Day of the Week Are You?

Abby, Glennon and Amanda discuss what day of the week they each are, why we do things we don’t want to do, and how to stop giving unsolicited advice.

Discover:

-Why we should celebrate divorce and endings more;

-Unsolicited advice and what to do if you find yourself giving it;

-Why you might be engaging in trauma reenactment; and 

-What’s happening when you feel the Sunday Scaries.

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351. How to Have *Healthy* Conflict with Amanda Ripley 

Conflict expert and investigative journalist, Amanda Ripley, is back to give us a conflict resolution 101 guide and delve into some real-life examples from Abby and Glennon’s relationship. 

Discover: 

-The best way to diffuse a high-conflict person from going further;

-The binary thinking that makes fighting with a spouse feel so painful–plus, the antidote;

-How to disagree while still holding someone else’s perspective; and

-Why it’s important to know your shame responses in order to have better conflicts.

For the first part of our conversation, check out Episode 330 Handling Conflict Right with Amanda Ripley.

About Amanda: 

Amanda Ripley is an investigative journalist and author. Her most recent book is High Conflict, which chronicles how people get trapped by conflicts of all kinds—and how they get out. Her previous books include The Unthinkable, and The Smartest Kids in the World, a New York Times bestseller which was also turned into a documentary film.

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Today, we’re sharing our first conversation with one of our favorite teachers – Martha Beck. We talk about letting go of control, cultivating joy, strategies for making hard decisions when we’re scared, and learning to recognize and pursue what feels like freedom. 

Discover:

-How do we tap back into living by our inner compass after living by consensus and following outer voices for so long?

-What Martha said to Glennon and Abby when they told her they were in love but scared to move forward—and how that advice changed their lives.

-How to make a plan to cultivate joy when it feels like you are army-crawling through life. 

About Martha:

Dr. Martha Beck is a New York Times bestselling author, life coach, and speaker. She holds three Harvard degrees in social science, and Oprah Winfrey has called her “one of the smartest women I know.” Martha is a passionate and engaging teacher, known for her unique combination of science, humor, and spirituality. Her most recent book, The Way of Integrity: Finding the Path to Your True Self, was an instant New York Times Best Seller.

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350. Secrets to a Joyful Life with Ina Garten

Ina Garten – the iconic Barefoot Contessa – shares her best life and business advice and her tips for how to host a successful dinner party. Plus, the details behind an unforgettable night with Abby, Ina, Taylor Swift, and beer pong; 

Discover:

-Ina’s surefire way to silence the inner-critic; 

-Why satisfaction has everything to do with not settling; and 

-What the key to having a fun dinner party can teach us about life. 

About Ina: Ina Garten has hosted her Emmy and James Beard Award winning show, Barefoot Contessa, on the Food Network since 2002 and recently launched a new interview focused series, Be My Guest, with Food Network and discovery+. She has published thirteen cookbooks, including eleven #1 New York Times bestsellers. In 2015 Ina Garten was named one of Time Magazine’s 100 Most Influential People.

She lives in East Hampton, New York with her husband, Jeffrey.

Her new memoir Be Ready When the Luck Happens is available now.

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349. How to Stop Pleasing and Start Living

Amanda and Glennon answer your questions about friendship, mental health, people pleasing and the difference between boundaries and control. 

Discover: 

-Why if you’re a person who “goes with the flow” you might want to reconsider;

-What to do when you feel the loss of a friend getting into a new relationship;

-The truth about married men who refuse to socialize with women who are not their wife; and 

-The healing power of getting a mental health diagnosis later in life.

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Do you remember where you were? 

On September 27, 2018, as Dr. Christine Blasey Ford raised her right hand and testified in the hearings of Brett Kavanaugh—who would go on to be confirmed to a lifetime appointment on the highest court in the nation. 

This week marks six years since we were eyewitnesses to her historic, courageous patriotism. In honor of her bravery and resolve, today we reshare our powerful conversation with Dr. Christine Blasey Ford—about the heartbreak, and hope, of being an American woman.

About Dr. Ford: 

Dr. Christine Blasey Ford is a professor of psychology at Palo Alto University and a clinical professor and consulting biostatistician at the Stanford University School of Medicine. On September 27, 2018, Dr. Ford testified before the Senate Judiciary Committee regarding her sexual assault in connection with the Committee’s consideration of Judge Brett Kavanaugh’s lifetime confirmation to the United States Supreme Court. Following her testimony, Ford and her family endured constant intimidation, harassment, and death threats forcing them to move out of their home, living in various secure locales with guards. In 2019, she was named one of the 100 most influential people in Time 100. Dr. Ford’s memoir, ONE WAY BACK, is available now.

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348. How to Quiet Your Inner Critic with Dr. Kristin Neff

Dr. Kristin Neff shares the secret to self-compassion and how to lessen our inner critic’s voice in order to build self-worth.

Discover:

-The 20-second daily practice you need to increase your self-compassion;

-How to use your compassion for others as a template for how to treat yourself;

-How to give your inner-critic a software update; and

-The “fierce” self-compassion and what it has to do with drawing boundaries.

On The Guest: Dr. Kristin Neff is an Associate Professor of Educational Psychology at the University of Texas at Austin, and co-founder of the Center for Mindful Self-Compassion. She is a pioneer in the field of self-compassion research, conducting the first empirical studies on self-compassion more than twenty years ago. Kristin runs the Self-Compassion Community, an online learning platform where people can learn the skill of self-compassion with the help of others. She is author of the bestselling books Self-Compassion and Fierce Self-Compassion. She also co-wrote The Mindful Self-Compassion Workbook and has a new book called Mindful Self-Compassion for Burnout coming out in Fall 2024.

Order her latest book here: https://self-compassion.org/

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347. The Cycles We’re Breaking: Abby, Amanda & Glennon

Abby, Glennon, and Amanda discuss Tuesday’s conversation with Dr. Mariel Buqué about intergenerational trauma. Each share examples of how they’re working on healing it in their lives and families. 

Discover:

-Abby’s hilarious and heartbreaking breakdown that revealed how deeply she’s into her healing work.

-Why Glennon no longer believes that she has a debilitating mental illness; and

-The shocking study that made Amanda feel a kinship with mice (literally).

Check out Episode 346. How to Break Family Cycles: Dr. Mariel Buqué here.

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Today, we’re resharing a special one. Dear Sugar herself – Cheryl Strayed – joined us to do what she does best: offer her best advice in response to your questions on co-parenting after infidelity, setting boundaries with friends, reconciling an estranged parent relationship, and so much more.

Discover:

- Why Cheryl says every problem she’s ever had has been solved by a list.

- The question Cheryl gets asked over and over again–and how she just helps advice seekers understand what they’re really asking.

- How to know a truth thing–and to live by that.

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346. How to Break Family Cycles: Dr. Mariel Buqué

Psychologist, Dr. Mariel Buqué, joins us to discuss intergenerational trauma – and how understanding the generations that came before us can lead to profound healing. 

Discover:

-The symptoms that signal that you might have inherited trauma;

-The most powerful sentence to say to your child to provide them healing;

-How to reframe family loyalty – and why it’s never too late to do this work. 

About Dr. Buqué: 

Dr. Mariel Buqué is a first-generation, Black Dominican psychologist, a world-renowned trauma expert, and the author of the bestselling book Break the Cycle: A Guide to Healing Intergenerational Trauma. Her mission is to help reduce the recurrence of Intergenerational ACEs (Adverse Childhood Experiences).

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345. Glennon: Learning to Love without Control

Glennon shares more about going off of antidepressants including a rock bottom moment, what this time of discovery has revealed about where she still needs to heal and the latest tool she has found that’s helping her through. 

Please note this episode does not contain medical advice and only serves to share Glennon’s personal experience. 

To hear part one of this conversation, Ep 344 Glennon: Her New Life Off Meds, click here!

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Sonya Renee Taylor – author of The Body is Not an Apology – explores the personal and global promise of Radical Self Love:

Discover: 

1. Examining the way we talk to our bodies – and how to change negative self-dialogue.

2. How to shift from a relationship with our body based on dominance and control to a relationship based on trust.

3. The pitfalls of “body positivity.”

4. The full life that is possible only if we stop believing our body is our enemy, and start seeing our body as a teammate.

About Sonya:

Sonya Renee Taylor is a world-renowned activist, award-winning artist, transformational thought leader, author of six books including The New York Times best selling The Body is Not an Apology, and founder of the international movement and digital media and education company of the same name whose work has reached millions of people by exploring the intersections of identity, healing, and social justice using a radical self-love framework. She continues to speak, teach,write, create, and transform lives globally.

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344. Glennon: Her New Life Off Meds

Glennon shares her experience of going off medication after decades on…the highly personal reason she did it, what it’s been like so far, and what’s next. 

Please note this episode does not contain medical advice and only serves to share Glennon’s personal experience. 

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343. Are You A Cool or Warm Person + What Does That Mean?

Glennon, Abby and Amanda *attempt* to do a ‘fun’ rapid fire but find themselves in deep discussion about setting boundaries, self regulation, and how to find your unique marrow of life. 

Discover: 

-How to know if you are a warm person, cool person or a combo of both. 

-Which type of person Glennon, Abby, and Amanda each see themselves as; and

-What you might need to do if you identify as a people pleaser.

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In this episode, Dr. Becky Kennedy shares how we can connect better with our kids.

Discover: 

1. How to embody your authority while also validating your kid’s experience.

2. The #1 strategy for building resilience.

3. Why consequences and punishments backfire and don’t work.

4. How to sit with your child on the “benches” of their emotions.

5. One thing you can say to your kids to build connection in any circumstance.

About Dr. Becky:

Dr. Becky Kennedy is a clinical psychologist and mom of three, named “The Millennial Parenting Whisperer” by TIME Magazine. She’s rethinking the way we raise our children – empowering parents to feel sturdier and more equipped to manage the challenges of parenting. Dr. Becky is founder of the Good Inside Membership platform, a hub with Dr. Becky’s complete parenting content collection all in one place; author of Good Inside: A Guide to Becoming the Parent You Want to Be, which is out this month. And her podcast “Good Inside with Dr. Becky” – was one of Apple Podcasts “Best Shows of 2021.

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342. Supreme Court Justice Ketanji Brown Jackson!

Today is a big day! Justice Ketanji Brown Jackson joins Glennon and Amanda to share her deeply personal journey to becoming the first Black woman Justice of the Supreme Court of the United States.  

Discover:

• How four misspelled words changed her entire world view;  
• How the angel she encountered for 5 seconds at Harvard kept her striving;
• What her Autistic daughter taught her about living well;
• Her grandmother’s advice that keeps her undistracted by the unfairness she faces; and
• How the Supreme Court’s presidential immunity ruling affects democracy.

Justice Jackson’s beautiful new memoir, Lovely One, is out today!

On the Guest: Justice Ketanji Brown Jackson received her undergraduate and law degrees, both with honors, from Harvard University, then served as a law clerk for three federal judges, practiced law in the private sector, worked as Commissioner of the U.S. Sentencing Commission, and served as an assistant federal public defender. President Obama nominated Justice Jackson to the U.S. District Court for the District of Columbia. Elevated to the U.S. Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit in 2021, Justice Jackson made history in 2022 when President Biden nominated her as an Associate Justice. One of only 115 people in history to have the job – and the Black woman ever to have the job – she was confirmed to the Supreme Court of the United States, and took her seat on June 30, 2022.

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341. Abby: How to Move On after Grief 

In part two of Abby’s sharing about the loss of her eldest brother, Peter – she opens up more about the revelations that her journey with grief has taught her about life.

To hear the first part of our conversation on grief, check out Episode 340. How Abby Survived Her Biggest Loss

Discover: 

-Why Abby now looks at grief like a friend;

-The beautiful story of how Peter saved Abby’s life and how that hits her now; and

-What was truly underneath Abby’s outsized fear of death this whole time.

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Today, we're revisiting one of our favorites. Enneagram Godmother Suzanne Stabile guides us through: What the hell is the Enneagram and why does it matter? 

-The gifts and struggles each Enneagram type faces;

-Why the worst part of you is also the BEST part of you;

-The core desire / fear that explains your behavior; and 

-Why, if Suzanne ever needs brain surgery, she’s finding a doctor who’s an Enneagram 1

And we FINALLY answer the question: Is Amanda a 3 or a 1?  

To continue with follow up episode to this one, check out:

Fix Your Most Important Relationships with the Enneagram: Suzanne Stabile.

About Suzanne:

Suzanne Stabile is an internationally-recognized Enneagram teacher. She is the co-author of The Road Back to You, and the author of The Path Between Us and The Journey Toward Wholeness.

With backgrounds in sociology and theology, Suzanne has served as a high school professor; the first women’s basketball coach at SMU after Title IX; and as the founding Director of Shared Housing, a social service agency in Dallas.

Suzanne lives in Dallas with her husband Rev. Joseph Stabile. She is the mother of four children and grandmother of nine.

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340. How Abby Survived Her Biggest Loss 

Abby shares an intimate account of the loss of her eldest brother, Peter, at the end of 2023. She describes the emotional turmoil she’s experienced and how she’s coping with her family's grief, the planning of the service, and the overwhelming mix of emotions she continues to feel surrounding grief and death.

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339. Gov. Whitmer: How to Be Happy AND Win 

Glennon, Abby and Amanda are joined by Michigan Governor, Gretchen Whitmer during this historic Democratic National Convention to discuss the plot to kill her; her best leadership lessons, why she’s “wompergasted” (and what that means); and the hope she holds for our country. 

Discover: 

-Why Governor Whitmer believes the American people are ready for a two women on the presidential ticket; 

-Her top leadership tools and how you can use them in your own life;

-How to be an activist as a sensitive person; and

-How to stay positive and win.

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1. Brené and Barrett share their parenting strategy that Brené calls “the opposite of raising a child that’s full of shame.”

2. The family of origin roles that Brené (the Protector) and Barrett (the Peacekeeper) had to adjust in order to work together – and the two keys to working well with family.  

3. The ways in which a child who grows up living on eggshells becomes an adult who is fearful – and how that fear shows up differently for Brené, Barrett, Glennon, and Amanda.   

4. The hilarious moment when each sister confesses a secret that they fear the other believes about them–and we find out whether or not it’s true. 

5. How Brené and Barrett are walking through the grief of their mother’s sudden decline, and how they circle back when the stress of that grief makes them shitty to each other.  

About Brené: 

Dr. Brené Brown is a research professor at the University of Houston where she holds the Huffington Foundation Endowed Chair at The Graduate College of Social Work.She has spent the past two decades studying courage, vulnerability, shame, and empathy, is the author of six #1 New York Times bestsellers, and is the host of the weekly podcasts Unlocking Us and Dare to Lead. 

Brené’s books have been translated into more than 30 languages and titles include:  Dare to Lead, Braving the Wilderness, Rising Strong, Daring Greatly, and The Gifts of Imperfection. Most recently Brené collaborated with Tarana Burke to co-edit You Are Your Best Thing: Vulnerability, Shame Resilience, and the Black Experience. 

In her latest #1 New York Times bestseller, ATLAS OF THE HEART, which has been adapted for television and now streaming on HBO Max, she takes us on a journey through eighty-seven of the emotions and experiences that define what it means to be human. 

Brené lives in Houston, Texas, with her husband, Steve. They have two children, Ellen and Charlie.

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About Barrett: 

Barrett Guillen is Chief of Staff for Brené Brown Education and Research Group. With her team, Barrett supports both Brené and the organization by helping to prioritize competing demands, managing relationships, and building connective tissue and strategy across all business initiatives. Barrett holds bachelor’s and master’s degrees in Kinesiology from the University of Houston. After more than a decade in education in the Texas Panhandle, Barrett and her family moved back to the Houston area to join Brene’s team in making the world a braver place. Having the opportunity to work with her sisters every day has been one of the great joys of her life. Outside the office, you can find Barrett spending time with her family (immediate and extended), enjoying her daughter’s games, eating her husband’s famous burgers, floating in the water (any water!), or on the pickle ball court.

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Amanda, Abby, and Glennon take your questions on raising teenagers, managing your child’s (and your own) anxiety, and decision fatigue.

Discover: 

-The delicate trapeze of parenting teens and how to create openness so your teens come to you when they’re in trouble; 

-Why Glennon believes we should ditch the ‘story’ of our kids; and

-Abby’s take on why the saying, “I’m proud of you,” can be harmful.

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337. How to Heal Unhealthy Relationship Patterns + Glennon & Abby On Marriage

Glennon and Abby are talking about relationships, including the relationship to self, marriage, and how to start dating again post-divorce. 

Discover: 

-The three vital steps to heal an unhealthy pattern in your life;

-How Glennon truly feels about taking your spouse’s last name; and

-Advice on where queer people can go in real life to meet each other!

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Today, we bring you an encore presentation of one of our favorite episodes of ALL time! Get ready to laugh as you hear the episode originally titled, 116. Our Most Embarrassing Stories!

1. Glennon, Abby, and Amanda share the most mortifying moments of their lives.

2. Pod Squaders’ hilarious voicemail confessions, which had Glennon, Abby, and Amanda cry-laughing in solidarity.

3. Our new go-to strategy when humiliated (it involves prosthetic penises).

4. We test our hypothesis that sharing our most embarrassing experiences makes us feel less alone.

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336. How to Create Unbreakable Bonds with Brittany Packnett Cunningham

Activist, producer, and on-air political analyst, Brittany Packnett Cunningham joins us to talk about community, sisterhood, and progress in the upcoming election – and in life.

Discover:

-How we can jump off the invisible “people mover” and into community;

-The five different ways to deal with bigotry and the one that works; 

-Why individualism is the enemy of progress; and

-How white women can embrace the power of sisterhood to create change.

On Brittany: Brittany Packnett Cunningham is a leader at the intersection of culture and justice. Brittany is Founder of the social impact agency Love & Power Works, Host and Executive Producer of the news and justice podcast UNDISTRACTED, and an on-air political analyst. She has been an elementary teacher, policy advisor, Presidential appointee, and will forever be an activist. You can find her @MsPackyetti on all social media, and subscribe to her podcast wherever you listen to your favorite shows.

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Ep 335. Why It’s Different This Time with Brittney Cooper & Rebecca Traister

Activists, writers, and organizers – Brittney Cooper and Rebecca Traister – join us to talk about the political landscape, the Kamala Harris campaign, and the state of Democracy. 

Discover: 

-The danger of looking for certainty – and what we should cultivate instead;

-Why we need to acknowledge our identity and bring joy back in politics;

-The types of attacks to anticipate for VP Harris as a Black woman and for other Black women in this country; and

-The way patriarchy responds to progress: what we’ve seen and what to look out for.

On Brittney and Rebecca: 

Brittney Cooper is Professor of Gender Studies and Africana Studies at Rutgers University and author of the New York Times bestseller Eloquent Rage. 

Rebecca Traister is writer at large for New York Magazine and the author of New York Times bestsellers All the Single Ladies and Good and Mad, as well as the award winning Big Girls Don't Cry, about gender race and class in the 2008 elections. 

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Today, it’s our attempt to do some easy things in this encore presentation of the episode originally titled, 175. Life Hacks: Strategies to Suffer Less. Glennon, Abby, Amanda – and the Pod Squad! — share the strategies they’ve used to suffer less – giving us simple Life Hacks for relationships, home, tech, travel, and saving time.

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334. How to Save The World & Yourself with Prentis Hemphill 

Glennon, Abby and Amanda welcome back writer, embodiment facilitator, political organizer, and therapist, Prentis Hemphill. They will be sharing with you on how to take care of yourself while being informed and doing your part to help the world and your community in the midst of the 2024 election and the crises our world is facing. 

Discover:

-A third way of existing in the current political landscape that isn’t disregulation or escapism;

-How to get out of your head and into your body;

-Why the most helpful way of being with your kids is not to protect them, and what is; and 

-Why chaos is necessary for creativity and change and how to use it.

On Prentis: Prentis Hemphill is a writer, embodiment facilitator, political organizer, and therapist. They are the founder and director of the Embodiment Institute and the Black Embodiment Initiative, and the host of the acclaimed podcast Finding Our Way. Their work and writing have appeared in The New York Times, HuffPost, You Are Your Best Thing (edited by Tarana Burke and Brené Brown), and Holding Change (by adrienne maree brown). And their new book is called, What it takes to heal.

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333. Olympic Magic with Briana Scurry

One of the world's most talented and influential goalkeepers and Olympians, Briana Scurry, joins us for an inspiring conversation. Brianna reflects on her historic career as the starting goalkeeper for the United States Women's National Team, sharing her experiences from winning two Olympic gold medals to making the iconic save in the 1999 FIFA Women's World Cup final. 

About Briana: 

Named starting goalkeeper for the United States Women’s National Team in 1994, Scurry led the team on an illustrious run that included two Olympic gold medals. In the 1999 FIFA World Cup Championship – Briana made the iconic penalty kick save that carried the United States to victory. Briana was selected to the United States Women’s National Team’s All-Time Best XI and was selected as the permanent Title IX Exhibit in the Smithsonian National Museum of African American History and Culture. 

In 2022, Scurry released her best-selling memoir, My Greatest Save, and was also the subject of The Only, a CBS feature-length documentary chronicling her life.

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Glennon, Abby, and Amanda are joined by renowned tech journalist Kara Swisher to expose the deep connections between tech billionaires, like Peter Thiel and Elon Musk, with JD Vance and Donald Trump. The conversation explores JD Vance's background, key tech industry players’ influence on the Republican presidential ticket and beyond, and the broader implications for the American people.

On Kara: Kara Swisher is host of On with Kara Swisher and co-host of the Pivot podcast. She’s editor-at-large at New York Magazine and a CNN contributor. Considered the top reporter in the tech game and called “Silicon Valley's most feared but revered journalist,” Swisher has established herself as the oracle of the tech world with unrivaled access to the industry's most significant leaders. She’s the author of the New York Times bestselling memoir, Burn Book: A Tech Love Story.

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332. Christen Press & Tobin Heath: THE OLYMPICS! THE SOCCER!

Abby, Glennon and Amanda are talking ALL about The Olympics and US Women’s Soccer with Olympians and soccer legends, Christen Press and Tobin Heath. 

Discover:

-Their take on the impact of not having Alex Morgan on the team;

-The Canada cheating scandal and Christen’s solution for it;

-What Tobin would have done differently, if anything, in the Germany game; and

-How Tobin, Christen, and Abby feel about our chances of winning the games.

On the guests:

Christen Press is a two-time World Cup Champion, two-time Olympic gold medalist, and an equal pay pioneer. She is one of the all-time top 10 goalscorers on the U.S. Women’s National Team and currently plays for Angel City FC. Christen led the USWNT's historic achievement of Equal Pay and served as the leader of the USWNT Players Association for 2 years. Christen is Co-Founder and Co-CEO of RE—INC, a values-led brand that exists to reimagine the way women are seen and experienced in sports. 

Tobin Heath is a two-time World Cup Champion and two-time Olympic gold medalist, known as one of the most skillful and entertaining players in the game. Throughout her club career, Heath has played for PSG, the Portland Thorns, Manchester United, and Arsenal. Tobin has taken her vision, leadership, and creativity off the pitch and into her roles as Co-Founder and Co-CEO of RE—INC, and host of the critically-acclaimed The RE—CAP Show. Tobin will be going live directly following each US Women’s Soccer Olympic game to Debrief with the community.

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Political expert and founder of NewsNotNoise, Jessica Yellen, is back to discuss the political developments following President Biden's announcement to drop out of the race and endorse Kamala Harris, including the Democratic Party's next steps and strategy moving forward, the impact of the recent events on the Republican campaign, and the upcoming convention.

Discover:

-The front runners for the Vice Presidential selection: and the benefits and drawbacks of each;

-The attacks Republicans are planning to wield against VP Harris;

-Why it looks like Trump may be scared to debate VP Kamala Harris; and

-How you can get involved in electing VP Harris as our first woman President. HINT: We meet tonight!

Link to the meeting to Support Kamala Harris: https://www.answerthecall2024.com/

On Jessica: Jessica Yellin is the founder of News Not Noise, a pioneering Webby award-winning independent news brand. Over 1M+ subscribers and followers across Instagram and other digital media rely on Jessica and News Not Noise to understand what matters, which experts to trust, and to manage their “information overload.” She is the former chief White House correspondent for CNN and an Emmy and Gracie Award-winning political correspondent for ABC, MSNBC and CNN. Follow her on Instagram, Twitter and Facebook @JessicaYellin. You can also find the News Not Noise Newsletter on Substack. 

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In anticipation of the Olympic games, today is a special encore episode of Glennon and Abby’s conversation with Simone Biles and Laurie Hernandez. Originally titled: HOW TO SAY NO with Simone Biles and Laurie Hernandez. 

Discover: 

1. What we can learn from Simone’s revolutionary decision at the Tokyo Olympics to choose her physical and mental health over the world’s expectations of her.

2. The tiny decisions that helped Laurie practice trusting herself again after surviving a toxic coach.

3. Why Simone, Laurie, and Abby believe their talent is both a blessing and a curse.

4. The places and times Simone and Laurie create where they have nothing to prove—to remind themselves they are human beings, not performance machines.

5. How Simone and Laurie are a big part of one of Abby and Glennon’s favorite family stories.

About Simone:

Simone Biles, one of the greatest gymnasts of all-time, is the first woman to capture five All-Around World Championship titles. She is the most decorated gymnast in World Championships history—male or female—with 25 medals overall (19 gold), and is a seven-time Olympic medalist (4 gold). A three-time Laureus World Sportswoman of the Year, she earned the rare distinction of having four skills named in her honor—called The Biles.

Simone’s autobiography Courage to Soar is a New York Times bestseller.

Simone advocates for change and supports initiatives that provide education and assistance for children and young adults associated with adoption and childcare.

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Twitter: @Simone_Biles

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330. Good vs. High Conflict: Amanda Ripley On Engaging Effectively

Conflict expert and investigative journalist, Amanda Ripley, delves into the complex nature of conflict and how it shapes our lives. The discussion challenges the conventional negative view of conflict and explores how 'good conflict' can lead to growth and progress.

Discover: 

-The difference between ‘high conflict’ and ‘good conflict’; 

-How to avoid the trip wires that lead to high conflict; 

-The best tool to connect with someone you disagree with; and 

-The four main stories behind every conflict.

About Amanda: 

Amanda Ripley is an investigative journalist and author. Her most recent book is High Conflict, which chronicles how people get trapped by conflicts of all kinds—and how they get out. Her previous books include The Unthinkable, and The Smartest Kids in the World, a New York Times bestseller which was also turned into a documentary film.

IG: @ripleywriter @thegoodconflict

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Yesterday, President Biden announced that, for the good of the nation, he would not remain in the race for the Presidency, and instead he offered his full support and endorsement of Vice President Kamala Harris to be the Democratic nominee for President. 

The Vice President shared her gratitude and expressed that it is her intention to earn and win the Democratic nomination. 

As we look ahead with new energy and excitement toward the grave magnitude and historic hope of the next 107 days, we are looking back to a conversation we had with Kamala Harris last year on what would have been the 50th Anniversary of Roe v Wade.

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329. Mental Load: Find Healing In Your Partnership & Balance Inequality in Your Home with Kate Mangino

Gender expert Kate Mangino discusses the depths of carrying the mental load in a family–even when you have a partner who wants to be supportive.

Listen to this conversation with your partner(s):

-The stages of mental load – and why “helping out” or completing a task doesn’t reduce it;

-The cost to partners who miss out on fully participating in the mental load of the household; and 

-The shocking statistics about the difference between childcare in the 70s and now.

Equal Partners: Improving Gender Equality at Home is available in paperback wherever books are sold on August 20th.

About Kate: 

Kate Mangino is a gender expert who works with international organizations to promote social change. She has written and delivered curricula in over 20 countries about issues such as: gender equality, women’s empowerment, healthy masculinity, HIV prevention, and early and forced childhood marriage. Kate is the author of Equal Partners: Improving Gender Equality at Home.

Other episodes to check out:

6. OVERWHELM: Is our exhaustion a sign that we’re CareTicking time bombs? 

246. The Answer to Caregiving Burnout with Ai-jen Poo

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Jessica Yellin, founder of the Webby-Award Winning Independent News Brand, News Not Noise, returns to walk us through what is going on right now in the political landscape. 

Discover: 

-What happened with the Trump assassination attempt and how it’s affecting the election;

-The divide in the Democratic party over Biden’s candidacy and what the options are at this point; 

-What to know about Trump’s Vice President selection, JD Vance – and what picking him signifies; and 

-Glennon’s “say what you see and feel” message to the Democratic party and thoughts on where we go next. 

On Jessica: Jessica Yellin is the founder of News Not Noise, a pioneering Webby award-winning independent news brand. Over 1M+ subscribers and followers across Instagram and other digital media rely on Jessica and News Not Noise to understand what matters, which experts to trust, and to manage their “information overload.” She is the former chief White House correspondent for CNN and an Emmy and Gracie Award-winning political correspondent for ABC, MSNBC and CNN. Follow her on Instagram, Twitter and Facebook @JessicaYellin. You can also find the News Not Noise Newsletter on Substack. 

Get her newsletter here: https://newsnotnoise.com/newsletter

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328. How to Stop Avoiding Yourself: Feel The Loneliness, Jealousy & Longing

Glennon, Abby, and Amanda discuss how to move through loneliness, longing and jealousy. Glennon and Abby also share their experience at The Gracie Awards and recap their heartfelt speech about breast health and dense breasts dedicated to Amanda. 

Discover: 

-What loneliness might be trying to teach us; 

-How Glennon really feels about jealousy and women supporting women; 

-Why it’s so hard to remove all the obstacles we create to connection and love; and

-How to let go of the picture of how it’s “supposed” to be.

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327. Inside Out 2 Review + Our Fav Books & TV Right Now 

Glennon, Amanda, and Abby discuss Pixar’s new film, 'Inside Out 2,' exploring its depiction of emotions, particularly focusing on anxiety and its role in our lives. Per Pod Squad request, they also share what they’ve each been reading and watching, so you can add to your list! 

Discover: 

-Which emotion from Inside Out 2 they each related to the most; 

-Glennon’s new morning practice to help ease her anxiety; 

-Why Glennon rarely shares what she’s reading publicly; and

-Abby’s TV show rec to help you take a break from yourself.

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When You Feel Invisible: Photos, Love & Truly Noticing Your Person

Amanda, Glennon, and Abby revisit a powerful conversation about why so many women in heterosexual relationships are missing from family photos and what it signifies about their relationships and humanity. Join us for an encore episode originally titled, "125. WHY ARE THERE NO PICTURES OF US?!?"

In this episode, discover: 

1. How it feels to not be in any of your family photos, why it happens, and how to change it.

2. A call-in question from a husband that made Amanda cry.

3. Reimagining “acts of service” and how to know whether actions belong in the “Adulting Bucket” or the “Love Bucket.”

4. How getting the kids to read over the summer went terribly, thanks for asking.

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326. Why We Can’t Sleep & How to Fix It with Dr. Shelby Harris 

Psychologist and sleep expert, Dr. Shelby Harris, takes us on a deep dive into our most important pillar of health: SLEEP. From insomnia to night anxiety to revenge procrastination to snoring partners, Dr. Shelby Harris has realistic, concrete advice to help us understand why we struggle – and how to get the sleep we need.    

• How much sleep should we really get – and the signs we’re not getting enough.

• Realistic sleep wellness for women – and how to share the mental load that’s keeping us up. 

• How to handle snoring – and how to create a sleep alliance with our partners – (this part changed Abby and Glennon’s sleep plan forever!)

• Plus, Abby’s hot tip for fixing your social media algorithm. (Spoiler alert: Highland mini cows.) 

About Dr. Harris: 

Dr. Shelby Harris is a psychologist and sleep specialist who treats a wide variety of sleep, anxiety, and depression issues. In addition to her book The Women’s Guide to Overcoming Insomnia, Dr. Harris has been a columnist for the New York Times, and has been featured in other media including the New Yorker, Washington Post, Today Show, and Good Morning America. Dr. Harris can be found on Instagram at @SleepDocShelby where she provides evidence-based information about sleep wellness and sleep disorders.

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325. Glennon & Abby's Guide to Confronting Crisis with Compassion

Glennon and Abby discuss how they have gotten through recent crises, and take your questions on how to get through life’s most challenging moments. 

Discover: 

-Why Glennon suspects this time might actually be beautiful and why Abby feels like an exposed root;

-From laying on the floor to finding solace in art, what to do tumultuous times; and

-A tip for how to start processing when you feel emotionally blocked.

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324. The Embodied Path to Healing Trauma with Resmaa Menakem

Author, therapist, licensed clinical worker, racialized trauma expert, Resmaa Menakem discusses the concepts of somatic abolitionism, and the importance of embodied anti-racist practices. 

Discover: 

-The difference between clean and dirty pain;

-What white people need to do in order to help create an anti-racist society; and

-Why we should shift from looking at the personal to looking at the historical to heal our traumas.

On Resmaa: Resmaa Menakem is an author, agent of change, therapist, and licensed clinical worker specializing in racialized trauma, communal healing, and cultural first aid. As the leading proponent of Somatic Abolitionism – an embodied anti-racist practice for living and culture building – Resmaa is the founder of Justice Leadership Solutions and the Cultural Somatics Institute.

Resmaa works at the intersections of anti-racism, communal healing, and embodied purpose, and is the author of the New York Times bestseller My Grandmother’s Hands: Racialized Trauma and the Pathway to Mending Our Hearts and Bodies, The Quaking of America: An Embodied Guide to Navigating Our Nation’s Upheaval and Racial Reckoning, Monsters in Love: Why Your Partner Sometimes Drives You Crazy—And What You Can Do About It, and The Stories from My Grandmother’s Hands, a children’s picture book with actor T. Mychael Rambo and illustrator Leroy Campbell.

In 2023, Resmaa released an on-demand self-paced course titled Healing Racialized Trauma: Somatic Abolitionism for Every Body. You can learn more about Resmaa and his work at www.resmaa.com.

Work with Resmaa: https://blackoctopussociety.com/

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323. Glennon’s Friendship Contract with Alex Hedison

Part two of our conversation artist, actor, photographer, filmmaker and bestie of Glennon and Abby, Alex Hedison! In this episode, Alex talks about what it means to stress a relationship, authentic friendship, and the importance of being authentic in every area of your life. 

Check out our first episode with Alex HERE: [insert link here]

Discover: 

-Glennon and Alex’s friendship contract and the terms they agreed to;

-How to make room for the awkward, twisty parts in friendship; and

-Why we must not quietly quit people who are important to us.

About Alex:

Alex Hedison is an internationally acclaimed photographer, artist, director, and actor. Hedison has exhibited in galleries in the US and abroad. Her most recent solo exhibitions include the opening of FRIEZE Seoul 2023; Von Lintel Gallery, Los Angeles; H Gallery Paris; Photo London; and Paris Photo. Her acting career spans numerous television roles, including a pivotal character in the cultural phenomenon, The L Word. A critical voice in both the artistic and LGBTQ+ community, Hedison directed the short documentary film ALOK, a thought-provoking short film that explores compassion as a catalyst for social transformation and inspires viewers to embrace personal freedom beyond the binaries that divide us. Produced by Natalie Shirinian, Elizabeth Baudouin (pronounced Bode-win), Meggan Lennon, and executive produced by Jodie Foster, ALOK was selected to premiere at the 2024 Sundance Film Festival.

IG: @alexhedisonstudio

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On our third anniversary, we’re taking a look back at our first anniversary when 15,000 Pod Squaders joined us live to discuss:  

- Why Amanda started taking meds, Glennon keeps taking meds – and why Abby might consider taking meds :) 

- The brilliant preemptive post mortem strategy to help you emotionally recover from any gathering.  

- Your most frequently asked question of Abby: How she tracked down her first love connection at the Macaroni Grill.

- The pie chart of showing up – and why it’s rarely ever 100%.  

- Glennon shares her first steps up from the “landing” of her eating disorder relapse.  

CW // eating disorders discussion

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322. The One Who Taught Glennon Friendship: Alex Hedison  

Today is a big day. Artist, actor, photographer, filmmaker, and dear bestie of Glennon and Abby, Alex Hedison is here! Alex is the person who Glennon credits with teaching her how to be a friend. HUGE! In this episode, they share how their friendship started, how they make it work, and Alex offers amazing life advice. It’s like being a fly on the wall in one of their hangouts. You will LOVE this chat between Alex, Glennon, Abby and Amanda!

Discover: 

-The story of how Glennon and Abby became friends with Alex and her wife, Jodie Foster;

-The literal fire that solidified their friendship; 

-How to never have an ick moment again after a social gathering; and

-Why we MUST stress our relationships and what that means in action.

About Alex:

Alex Hedison is an internationally acclaimed photographer, artist, director, and actor. Hedison has exhibited in galleries in the US and abroad. Her most recent solo exhibitions include the opening of FRIEZE Seoul 2023; Von Lintel Gallery, Los Angeles; H Gallery Paris; Photo London; and Paris Photo. Her acting career spans numerous television roles, including a pivotal character in the cultural phenomenon, The L Word. A critical voice in both the artistic and LGBTQ+ community, Hedison directed the short documentary film ALOK, a thought-provoking short film that explores compassion as a catalyst for social transformation and inspires viewers to embrace personal freedom beyond the binaries that divide us. Produced by Natalie Shirinian, Elizabeth Baudouin (pronounced Bode-win), Meggan Lennon, and executive produced by Jodie Foster, ALOK was selected to premiere at the 2024 Sundance Film Festival.

IG: @alexhedisonstudio

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321. Expert Advice on Genetic Testing, Cancer Prevention & Care Disparities with Dr. Rachel Brem

Dr. Rachel Brem is back to discuss genetic testing for breast cancer risk, systemic issues within the medical establishment, guidance for those with dense breasts, and practical advice on MRI and mammograms. Plus, we’ll hear some of the heartfelt and inspiring messages you’ve left us since you learned of Amanda’s diagnosis. 

Discover: 

-The shocking statistic about who is most susceptible to breast cancer;

-Why every doctor has a bias and what to do about it;

-The truth about “overdiagnosis”; and 

-How to get genetic testing and what to do with the information you receive.

On Dr. Rachel Brem: Dr. Rachel Brem is the author of No Longer Radical: Understanding Mastectomies and Choosing the Breast Cancer Care That's Right For You.

Dr. Brem is an internationally known breast cancer expert who has been instrumental in developing and implementing new technologies to improve breast cancer detection. She is Professor and Director of Breast Imaging and Intervention at George Washington University, Vice Chairman of the Department of Radiology, and Chief Medical Advisor and Cofounder of the Brem Foundation. She is a Fellow of the American College of Radiology and the Society of Breast Imaging.

Find our first episode with Dr. Brem here: 320. Early Detection, Mammograms & Breast Cancer Care with Dr. Rachel Brem

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320. Early Detection, Mammograms & Breast Cancer Care with Dr. Rachel Brem

Amanda shares an update on her recovery from breast cancer. Then, renowned breast cancer expert, Dr. Rachel Brem, joins the conversation to discuss the critical importance of early detection, breast density's impact on mammography, and when we need additional screenings. 

Discover: 

-The differing guidance on screenings and the truth about how often you should actually get screened for cancer;

-Advice on what to say to your doctors to make sure that you get the screening you need and so that they can be covered under insurance; and

-How to learn how dense your breasts are and what to do with that information. 

On Dr. Rachel Brem: Dr. Rachel Brem is the author of No Longer Radical: Understanding Mastectomies and Choosing the Breast Cancer Care That's Right For You.

Dr. Brem is an internationally known breast cancer expert who has been instrumental in developing and implementing new technologies to improve breast cancer detection. She is Professor and Director of Breast Imaging and Intervention at George Washington University, Vice Chairman of the Department of Radiology, and Chief Medical Advisor and Cofounder of the Brem Foundation. She is a Fellow of the American College of Radiology and the Society of Breast Imaging.

Find more resources at The Brem Foundation Website: https://www.bremfoundation.org/ 

Check out Dr. Brem’s Book, No Longer Radical: https://www.nolongerradical.com/

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319. Breaking Generational Cycles: Embodiment & Healing Trauma with Prentis Hemphill

Glennon and Abby welcome Prentis Hemphill, a writer, embodiment facilitator, political organizer, and therapist. They discuss individual and collective healing through embodiment. The conversation spans the concepts of embodiment, cycle breaking within families and generational healing and how to get back into a healthier relationship with yourself and others. 

Discover: 

-The important practice of crying dates to help rediscover yourself & your instincts;

-How to learn the difference between your trauma and your personality; and

-What it means to be a cycle breaker & how to own your part in generational healing.

About Prentis: Prentis Hemphill is a writer, embodiment facilitator, political organizer, and therapist. They are the founder and director of the Embodiment Institute and the Black Embodiment Initiative, and the host of the acclaimed podcast Finding Our Way. Their work and writing have appeared in The New York Times, HuffPost, You Are Your Best Thing (edited by Tarana Burke and Brené Brown), and Holding Change (by adrienne maree brown). And their new book is called, What it takes to heal.

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In honor of Pride month, Glennon shares an encore conversation that she and Amanda had with Abby about how she healed from religious trauma and found spirituality again.

Originally titled, QUEER FREEDOM: How can we be both held and free? Abby, Amanda and Glennon discussed: 

-How Abby learned from church as a child to hate herself—and the healing moment she realized that God and religion are not the same.

-The miraculous letter Glennon received from a reader the day after she came out.

-Glennon’s response to the statement “I disagree with your lifestyle, but I love you anyway.”

-When it’s time to either raise hell inside of—or leave—the institutions that require us to deny who we are or what we know.

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318. Tegan and Sara Ask: Did We Do Enough? 

Tegan and Sara join us for a heartfelt conversation about sisterhood, career, legacy, and the loneliness of being “The First”. 

Discover: 

-Why Tegan and Sara are asking themselves, “Did we do enough?”;

-Their backstage disputes and what it taught them about resolving family disagreement; 

-The pain and beauty of paving the way, and how Abby relates; and

-The one question you need to ask yourself to know whether your life is actually working for you.

About Tegan & Sara

Throughout their career of over 20 years, Tegan and Sara have built a multi-faceted media empire that extends into TV, books, newsletters, and public service, always deeply rooted in music. 

With multiple JUNO Award wins and numerous GRAMMY, GLAAD, and Polaris Prize Award nominations, Tegan and Sara’s crowning achievement is the Tegan and Sara Foundation.

Tegan and Sara are the authors of the New York Times best-selling memoir High School. Their second book, Tegan & Sara: Crush, will be released on October 1, 2024.

IG: @teganandsara

X: @teganandsara 

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317. What Amanda’s Learned About Life, Love & Community (Post Surgery Pt 2) 

Amanda details surgery day, her healing process, and the role her community has played in getting her through it all. 

Discover: 

-The choice Amanda made about who came back with her for surgery;

-Amanda’s scariest and lowest moments so far, as well as the most beautiful ones; and

-Abby’s advice about how to approach surgeries and your relationship with your doctors; 

To hear the first two episodes about Amanda’s diagnosis, as well as the one before this, listen at the links below: 

-Episode 309 Amanda’s Diagnosis and What’s Next (Pt. 1) 

-Episode 310: Amanda’s Diagnosis and What’s Next (Pt. 2) 

-Episode 316: Amanda Returns Post Surgery: Here’s What She Wants You To Know

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316. Amanda Returns Post Surgery: Here’s What She Wants You To Know 

Amanda returns nine days post surgery to share more about the process of finding a surgeon, the importance of seeking multiple medical opinions, the critical elements of preparing for surgery, and how she’s recovering so far. This episode is full of insights and tips for those going through a breast cancer diagnosis or those who love someone who is going through one. As you listen, please note that the hosts are not medical professionals, but only sharing their own personal experience. For any medical advice, please consult with your doctor. 

Discover: 

-Amanda, Glennon and Abby’s three must-have tips to handle doctors appointments; 

-Some important things Amanda found out about mastectomies and female pleasure, and why it is important to bring it up to your doctor; and

-An emotional moment Amanda had while finding a surgeon and how Glennon and Abby helped her through it. 

To hear the first two episodes about Amanda’s diagnosis, listen at the links below: 

-Episode 309 Amanda’s Diagnosis and What’s Next (Pt. 1) 

-Episode 310: Amanda’s Diagnosis and What’s Next (Pt. 2)

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315. Grief: How to Move Through Losing a Friend with Sloane Crosley

CW: Discussion of suicide 

Abby and Glennon welcome New York Times bestselling author Sloane Crosley. Sloane shares her experience of losing her dear friend to suicide and the grief journey she went on in the aftermath. The conversation explores handling loss, the nuances of friendship, humor in the face of sorrow, and living in the present moment.

Discover: 

-Whether the desire to give meaning to a death helps or hurts the grieving process;

-What NOT to say after someone dies by suicide and what might help; 

-The place of humor in grief: when it’s useful and when it’s a coverup; and

-The reason you have every right to deeply grieve a friend and the pain of grief hierarchies. 

About Sloane: 

Sloane Crosley is the New York Times bestselling author of the new memoir Grief Is for People; the novels Cult Classic and The Clasp; and three essay collections: Look Alive Out There, I Was Told There’d Be Cake, and How Did You Get This Number. She lives in New York City.

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314. Jealousy: Glennon & Abby Share It All 

Glennon and Abby candidly discuss their personal experiences with jealousy. They explore how jealousy manifests, its implications on their connection, and the steps they've taken toward understanding and addressing it.

Discover:

-Abby and Glennon’s jealousy origin stories;

-Abby’s confession to Glennon about her jealousy;

-Why self trust might be the key to overcoming jealousy; and

-How Glennon and Abby protect each other’s hearts AND wounds in their relationship.

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313. How to Turn a Mistake into Magic with Suleika Jaouad

Glennon speaks one-on-one with the brilliant Suleika Jaouad about Suleika's journey through the messy middle – living well in a body that does not feel well, and creating a life of beautiful defiance.

Discover: 

• Why believing we should “Live everyday like our last” is unhelpful;
• Why the unproductive periods of life are *actually* where you do the most work;
• The specific, best ways to really show up for friends who are in the messy middle; 
• How to alchemize your pain into creativity; and
• The lessons we can all learn from Jellyfish  

Suleika Jaouad is the author of the instant New York Times bestselling memoir, Between Two Kingdoms. She wrote the Emmy Award-winning New York Times column “Life, Interrupted,” and her reporting and essays have been featured in the New York Times Magazine, The Atlantic, Vogue, and NPR, among others. A highly sought-after speaker, her TED Talk – “What Almost Dying Taught Me About Living” – has nearly five million views. She is also the creator of The Isolation Journals, a community creativity project founded during the pandemic to help others convert isolation into artistic solitude.

IG: @suleikajaouad

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312. Potholes & Productive Conflict in Relationships with Abby & Glennon

Abby and Glennon answer ALL of your relationship questions. We get into juicy topics like how to fight better, the balance of individuation and connection in relationships, and how to take ownership of your own feelings vs. judging your partner’s behaviors. 

Discover: 

-What introverts and extroverts have to learn from each other and how they can be in a relationship effectively;

-Abby and Glennon’s unbelievable golf cart fight and tips on how to have more productive conflicts; 

-How to let go of the need to control someone else; and

-What Abby means when she says, “woof.”

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311. Post Diagnosis: Glennon & Abby Reflect and Decide What Needs to Change 

Glennon and Abby reflect on the dynamics of love, control, and support in relationships in the wake of Amanda’s diagnosis. 

Discover: 

-The simple sentence that Tish said to Glennon that shattered her reality;

-Glennon’s creative way of reading books & what it has to do with controlling others; and

-Why Glennon didn’t speak for a week after finding out sister’s diagnosis & what it felt like inside.

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310. Amanda’s Diagnosis & What’s Next (Pt. 2) 

In Part 2, Amanda shares more from the messy middle of her breast cancer diagnosis. She talks candidly about her hopes, fears, and what she has realized really matters. 

To listen to the first part of our conversation with Amanda, click here: Amanda’s Diagnosis and What’s Next (Pt. 1)

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309. Amanda’s Diagnosis and What’s Next (Pt. 1) 

Amanda shares the news about her health and what’s next for her healing. Amanda, Glennon, and Abby go into the tactical, philosophical and emotional aspects of this diagnosis and all share how they’re feeling about it and working through it at this moment.

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308. Brittney Griner On Coming Home & Recovering From Trauma 

Glennon and Abby talk with athlete, humanitarian, activist–and one of the bravest people they’ve met–Brittney Griner. Brittney discusses her harrowing experience in the Russian prison system, as well as her basketball career, recovering from trauma, and her excitement over becoming a parent. 

Discover: 

-Why she went to Russia in the first place – and the gender pay gap in women’s sports; 

-Her first thought as she stepped foot on American soil after her time in a Russian penal colony;

-How she feels about America now that she’s back; and 

-How she reconciled her relationship with her dad after having a tough time coming out 

About Brittney: 

BRITTNEY GRINER is a pioneer, humanitarian, and activist and was named as one of TIME magazine’s 100 Most Influential People in 2023. Griner is an NCAA champion, a WNBA champion, and a two-time Olympic gold medalist. Winner of the Best Female Athlete ESPY Award, and a nine-time WNBA All-Star, Griner is one of the most decorated and influential athletes of this generation.

IG: @brittneyyevettegriner

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307. Healing From Complex PTSD with Stephanie Foo

Abby, Amanda and Glennon are joined by author and radio producer, Stephanie Foo. They discuss Stephanie’s memoir, What My Bones Know, and her journey healing from Complex PTSD. 

Discover: 

-The difference between Trauma, PTSD and complex PTSD; 

-What “THE DREAD” is and how to know if you have it; 

-Why if the trauma is relational, the healing has to be relational, too, and what that means, in-action; and 

-Whether you can ever truly give what you never got as a parent. 

CW: Discussion of physical and verbal abuse and neglect.

About Stephanie:

Stephanie Foo is a writer and the author of the New York Times bestseller, WHAT MY BONES KNOW: A Memoir of Healing from Complex Trauma. She is also a radio producer, most recently for This American Life. Her work has aired on Snap Judgment, Reply All, 99% Invisible, and Radiolab. A noted speaker and instructor, she has taught at Columbia University and has spoken at venues from Sundance Film Festival to the Missouri Department of Mental Health. She lives in New York City.

IG: @foofoofoo

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306. The Truth of OCD: Therapist Alegra Kastens on Living with Obsessive Compulsive Disorder

Therapist Alegra Kastens shares the truth about her lived experience with Obsessive-Compulsive Disorder (OCD) that is vital for all of us to understand. Detailing her own struggle, and work as an OCD specialist, Alegra helps demystify the relentless cycle of ego-dystonic, intrusive thoughts, anxiety, and compulsions that define this often-misunderstood and under-diagnosed disorder – sharing why so many people have OCD and do not know it, and ways to support people with OCD without enabling and reinforcing the compulsions.

CW: Discussion of intrusive sexual and violent thoughts as well as suicidal ideation.

About Alegra:

Alegra Kastens is a licensed therapist, OCD specialist, writer, and the founder of the Center for OCD, Anxiety, and Eating Disorders in New York City. Fueled by lived experience with a lesser-known manifestation of OCD, education and advocacy about OCD are at the forefront of her career.

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305. How to Self-Regulate, Heal Your Relationships & Accept That You’ll Never Be Finished 

As we continue the discussion on Busyness, Amanda, Glennon & Abby share more of their thoughts about the cult of Busyness – how buying into it shows up in you and your relationships, and how it leads to dysregulation and dissatisfaction in all areas of life. We go through the signs that might indicate you’re too busy and burnt out, how to know the difference between building a life and living a life, and why dysregulation can be a breadcrumb toward healing.

Discover: 

-Why the addiction of busyness will never be pointed out or helped by most people; 

-Why Abby says the idea of retirement is the greatest heist in human history; and

-The emotional breakdown Amanda had, which led to starting her healing journey.

Also check out:

304. Break Up with Busyness & Let Go of Your To-Do List

281. How Amanda Finally Calmed Her Brain & Her Letter from Love with Liz Gilbert 

261. How to Stretch Time with Jenny Odell

139. No More Grind: How to Finally Rest with Tricia Hersey

93. BURNOUT: Do You Feel Half Alive? with Emily and Amelia Nagoski

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304. Break Up with Busyness & Let Go of Your To-Do List

Amanda delves into her relationship with Busyness and how she’s working through it. We’ll touch on topics such as the pervasive culture of busyness, productivity as a measure of self-worth, and the struggle to define personal boundaries and prioritize genuine happiness (after some hilarious banter between Glennon and Abby about how to deal with “disgusting” things in a relationship).

Discover: 

-Why Busyness is such a pervasive and oppressive cult for so many of us;

-How to decouple your self-esteem and identity from your productivity;

-The actionable tactic Amanda is using in her break up with Busyness; and

-How your pets prove that the religion of busyness is a lie. 

Check out these episodes, too:

281. How Amanda Finally Calmed Her Brain & Her Letter from Love with Liz Gilbert 

261. How to Stretch Time with Jenny Odell

139. No More Grind: How to Finally Rest with Tricia Hersey

93. BURNOUT: Do You Feel Half Alive? with Emily and Amelia Nagoski

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303. Laziness Does Not Exist with Devon Price 

Why are we so scared of laziness? How have we been convinced to tie our worthiness to busy-ness and how do we STOP and create lives we are excited to live?

Social psychologist and author, Devon Price, teaches us how we got bamboozled and sets us free from the Laziness Lie.

Discover:

-How to rest, reorient priorities, and say “No” to reclaim our time and energy and avoid burnout.

-Glennon asks Devin her favorite question: “What the hell is gender?”

-The importance of listening to dread and recognizing when something doesn’t feel right.

-Why resenting others for not doing enough often indicates that you're doing too much. 

Plus, Devon shares an exercise for reflecting on the moments when you felt most yourself and aligned with your values – in order to create more meaningful life experiences.

About Devon:

Devon Price, PhD, is a social psychologist, professor, author, and proud Autistic person. His books include Unmasking Autism and Laziness Does Not Exist. His forthcoming book, Unlearning Shame, will be released in February 2024.

Devon’s research has appeared in journals such as the Journal of Experimental Social Psychology, Personality and Social Psychology Bulletin, and the Journal of Positive Psychology. Devon’s writing has appeared in the Financial Times, HuffPost, The Los Angeles Times, Business Insider, and on PBS, NPR, MSNBC, and the BBC.

He lives in Chicago, where he serves as an assistant professor at Loyola University Chicago’s School of Continuing and Professional Studies.

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Glennon shares an encore conversation that she and Abby had with their favorite person and co-host: Amanda Doyle!

This episode, originally titled, How to Face Your Biggest Fear with Amanda Doyle, examines the relationships, decisions, and travels that led Amanda to today – from hitchhiking across Ireland, to prosecuting child sex offenders in Rwanda, to making the biggest decision of her life in an Ethiopian airport – they dive into Amanda’s lifelong fear of the ordinary.

About Amanda:

Amanda Doyle is Glennon Doyle’s Business Manager and co-host of the We Can Do Hard Things podcast with her sister Glennon Doyle and sister-in-law Abby Wambach. She is Vice President, General Counsel, and a member of the Together Rising Board of Directors. In these roles, Amanda is responsible for overseeing and advising on legal matters, including risk management, policy development, and programmatic affairs, as well as cultivating new initiatives and relationships to strengthen the organization’s impact. A former attorney at the law firm of Hogan Lovells and Legal Fellow with International Justice Mission, Amanda lives in Falls Church, Virginia with her husband and two children.

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302. Chelsea Handler on Happiness, Groundedness & the Upcoming Election

Chelsea Handler is back to join Glennon, Amanda, and Abby for a heartfelt and hilarious conversation about life. She tells us how she found her happiness, how to take accountability in your own life, and why – if she has to confront someone doing something WILD or offensive – she’s going to have a little fun! 

Discover: 

-Why being selfish is the ultimate gift we can give to the world and each other; 

-The unexpected side-effect Chelsea experienced from therapy and how to move through it if it’s happening to you, too;

-Chelsea’s thoughts about how to navigate big feelings during the upcoming election cycle; and 

-Chelsea’s story about a stranger on a chairlift and their exchange about Taylor Swift. 

For our previous conversation with Chelsea, check out:

115. Chelsea Handler: On Breaking Up & Being Unbreakable

About Chelsea

Chelsea Handler is a comedian, television host, podcast host, author, and advocate whose humor and candor have established her as one of the most celebrated voices in entertainment and pop culture.

Chelsea is the author of six New York Times bestsellers, five of which are #1 bestsellers – including Life Will Be the Death of Me. She hosts the iHeart Radio advice podcast, Dear Chelsea – and her most recent critically acclaimed comedy special, Revolution, is available on Netflix. If you want to see her live, Chelsea is currently on her Little Big Bitch stand-up tour.

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301. What You Need To Know to Have More Fun TODAY with Catherine Price 

We’re back with Fun Expert and author of, Fun: How to Feel Alive Again, Catherine Price, to talk more about fun: what it is and how to have more of it. Today, we’ll discuss whether fun and productivity can coexist, thoughts about women and fun, and why the right to fun might just be innately connected to the human experience AND activism.

Discover: 

-The definitive reason why Abby has the MOST fun and how you, too, can use her fun strategy; 

-Why fun actually increases creativity and productivity; 

-Why people view women having fun as offensive and why we must do it anyway; and 

-Actionable tools you can use to invite more fun into your life!

Check out the last episode we did with Catherine and these others about fun, too:

301. FUN: We’re Finally Figuring It Out with Catherine Price

4. FUN: What the hell is it and why do we need it?

62. The Big Lies & the Truth About Happiness with Dr. Laurie Santos

63. How to Live a Little Happier with Dr. Laurie Santos

216. How to Find DELIGHT Today (and Every Day) with Ross Gay

On Catherine: 

Catherine Price is the author of The Power of Fun: How to Feel Alive Again.  She is also an award-winning health and science journalist, founder of Screen/Life Balance, and author of How to Break Up With Your Phone. She runs a substack newsletter called “How to Feel Alive” and her TED Talk, Why having fun is the secret to a healthier life, has been viewed close to five million times. 

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300. FUN: We’re Finally Figuring It Out with Catherine Price 

Pod Squad! Do you remember back in the very first days of the pod when we talked about FUN? It was episode 4. Now, hundreds of episodes later, we’re finally ready to give fun the long, deep dive and consideration it deserves. Abby is excited, Glennon is interested, and Amanda is skeptical, but we’re all here, ready to learn and maybe even to have a little fun. Thankfully, Fun Expert (how cool is that title?) and author of, The Power of Fun: How to Feel Alive Again, Catherine Price is here to be our fun ambassador and to teach us all how to draw more fun and fun opportunities into day-to-day life!

Discover: 

-The difference between real fun and fake fun;

-The mental load’s impact on fun;

-The three necessary ingredients for fun and how find your “Fun Magnets;” plus

-Abby, Glennon, and Amanda’s stand out fun moments and how they plan to create more of that in their lives.

Check out these other episodes, too: 

4. FUN: What the hell is it and why do we need it?

62. The Big Lies & the Truth About Happiness with Dr. Laurie Santos

63. How to Live a Little Happier with Dr. Laurie Santos

216. How to Find DELIGHT Today (and Every Day) with Ross Gay

On Catherine: 

Catherine Price is the author of The Power of Fun: How to Feel Alive Again.  She is also an award-winning health and science journalist, founder of Screen/Life Balance, and author of How to Break Up With Your Phone. She runs a substack newsletter called “How to Feel Alive” and her TED Talk, Why having fun is the secret to a healthier life, has been viewed close to five million times. 

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299. Parenting: How to Nurture Yourself and Others

In this episode we’re going deep into parenting. Glennon, Abby, and Amanda (along with the help of Tracee Ellis Ross, Michelle Obama and Dr. Becky Kennedy) discuss the brutiful journey of parenting, reparenting ourselves, and learning how to love and be loved. 

Discover: 

-Tracee Ellis Ross rejects the lie that a woman’s purpose is to be “chosen” – and what “mothering” means to her

-Michelle Obama tells us how to finally live in our own enoughness; 

-How to know if you are engaging in “pendulum parenting;”

-The #1 strategy for all relationships: REPAIR, with Dr. Becky Kennedy; and 

-The moment Abby finally felt lovable. 

Check out the full episodes:

12. PARENTING: How do we make this thrilling, terrifying roller coaster ride a little bit easier?

167. Tracee Ellis Ross: How to Make Peace in Your Own Head

13. Brave Parenting Qs & the Power of Saying YES!

193. MICHELLE OBAMA!

267. The #1 Relationship Strategy with Dr. Becky Kennedy

189. Abby for the 1st Time On Divorce & Her Unrequited Love

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298. How to Survive Your 20s, Abby On Bonus Parenting & IS Anyone TRULY Toxic?

Amanda, Glennon and Abby give an update about things they’re thinking about including: Glennon’s favorite memes, Amanda’s realization about leadership in her family, and Abby’s exhaustion turned to joy. Plus, we answer questions from the Pod Squad on surviving your 20s, and how to navigate bonus parenthood.

Discover: 

-The simple, three-step process that revolutionized the way Amanda thinks about leadership and parenting; 

-Abby’s heartfelt advice to a Pod Squader on how to navigate her 20s & why need ALL need it, no matter our age;

-Insight into Abby’s journey as a mother & why being in your kid’s memories is everything; 

-Glennon’s surprising take on labeling people as “toxic” and what to do instead. 

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297. REAL Self-Care: Burnout Is Not Your Fault & the Way Out with Dr. Pooja Lakshmin

Psychiatrist Dr. Pooja Lakshmin shows us how to tell the difference between the Faux Self-Care we’ve been sold versus the Real Self-Care we desperately need.

Discover: 

• How to incorporate boundaries through the power of the pause and how to navigate the post-boundary ick with ease;
• A simple tool to know whether you are being driven by your goals or driven by your values (and how to find and start living by your values today); and
• Whether you might be in ‘martyr mode,’ and the key to getting out of it. 

About Pooja: Dr. Pooja Lakshmin is a board-certified psychiatrist, author, keynote speaker, and a contributor to The New York Times. Her debut book, REAL SELF-CARE: Crystals, Cleanses, and Bubble-Baths Not Included, is an NPR Best Book of 2023 and a national best-seller. Pooja serves as a clinical assistant professor of psychiatry at George Washington University School of Medicine, and maintains an active private practice where she treats women struggling with burnout, perfectionism, and disillusionment, as well as clinical conditions like depression, anxiety and ADHD. She frequently speaks, advises and consults for organizations on mental health and well-being. Pooja writes the weekly Substack newsletter, Real Self-Care. 

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