What a Hell of a Way to Dad

Francis and Nate tell some old Army stories about being cold and kinda whiny Feel you're not getting enough dad talk, subscribe to the Patreon for all of our bonus content - https://www.patreon.com/Hellofawaytodie 

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Francis and Nate answer your Dad questions. If you want to ask a question, then join our patreon at any level and get immediate access to the Discord channel we share with Lions led by Donkeys

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This week we're giving out advice about cooking easy meals for the family and how to pick yourself a hobby 

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Eric Peacock from the podcast Soundtracker joins Francis to talk about the Disney movie Mulan. The Music! The violence! The talking dragon voiced by Eddie Murphy. Strap in and we'll make a man out of you! Listen to Eric's show about movie soundtracks here - https://x.com/Soundtracker_

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Francis and Nate are joined by Jack Forman to talk about Christmas music. We begin to introduce Nate to the wonderful world of kid friendly, family music which sounds dangerously close to Rick Ross at times. 

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This week Francis and Nate talk about cops being dumb with guns, installing ceiling lights, and busted cars

This month we're facing down Tim Kennedy's stolen valor, watching a coup actually get punished, and CEOs losing out on the streets of NYC

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This week Francis and Nate are getting too in the groove of home repairs and ending up mad and hungry. Nate continues to have SysAdmin pains, we talk about when is the best time to call a professional, and answer your Hey Dad questions

We have both mostly left the bad site and are now on BlueSky

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As we reach the end of the first season of Spike TV's Deadliest warrior, we bring back the classic IRA vs Taliban, but this time with Tom O'Mahony, the podcast's official Irishman. This episode gives us a battle in a junkyard, and the debate between the AR-15 and AK-47 being settled by a Canadian for some reason. This is a preview of an episode on our Patreon. You can get this and three more bonus episodes a month at https://www.patreon.com/posts/117154469 

Francis and Jack take you through their favorite Thanksgiving's Day songs to play for the holiday. Instead of politics, bring a playlist to dinner. Apple Music - https://music.apple.com/us/playlist/thanksgiving-songs/pl.u-06oxN7zTjKvGgz

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Songlist includes I'm a Turkey - The Popups Turkey Turkey - Big Block Singsong No one holds you (Closer than the one you haven't met) - The Lemon Twigs Plain Plate of Noodles - The Sack Lunch Bunch Eat it - Weird Al Alice's Restaurant - Arlo Guthrie Greatful - Genevieve Goings I Can't Believe I Ate the Whole Thing - Jack Forman

The Deep State's formost news site The Onion bought Infowars in attempt to bring journalistic integrity to the site. No word yet on who gets the Infowars MRAP

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James Stout from the It Could Happen Here podcast tells Francis about visiting the Darien Gap and speaking to the migrants braving the jungle for an opportunity at a better life.

You can listen to James' show and interviews with the people of the Darien Gap here - https://www.iheart.com/podcast/105-it-could-happen-here-30717896/episode/the-darien-gap-where-dreams-die-233922960/ 

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The Zoo Crew goes back to College with Justin Long and Jonah Hill in the college movie Accepted. One of the last of the Great American College movies made before the economy collapsed and no one could afford school any more

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This week Francis and Nate are logging off, reading books, and hoping for Kirkland branded apartments above the local Costco

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It's been a...not great week for many of us online. Jack Forman, a dad, a former teacher, radio host, and kid indie music artist joins Francis to talk about how to talk about Presidential Elections with your kids Support us on Patreon - https://www.patreon.com/Hellofawaytodie 

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This week Nate is still in Geneva Housing limbo, but he's getting closer. The two talk about finding new hobbies in middle age, spreading artistic wings, and how to rock out baby style

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This month's MASH episodes are right in our wheelhouse. Crisis sees the 4077th dealing with supply line cuts as best they can. George tackles homosexuality in the Military, and it's surprisingly well done and not super offensive.

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This week Jason Pargin joins the podcast to discuss his latest book, I'm Beginning to Worry About this Black Box of Doom. We discuss the impact of social media, the desire to follow breaking news regardless of what is true or not, and the KILLDOZER

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This month Francis is joined by November (@PostOctoborist) to talk discuss the matchup of two men of legend, the Highland hero William Wallace vs the king of Africa Shaka Zulu. It's an episode full of wallet chains and uncomfortable Scottish shit talking.

Listen to November's many podcasts WTYP, Trash Future, Kill James Bond, No Gods No Mayors

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Francis discovers there are cities that will pay for you to move to them, mostly in Indiana. Nate does his best to dissuade him

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This week the Zoo Crew talks vacations. Where we've been, where we're going, and a lot more.

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This week Nate and Francis talk about the downsides to home ownership (not having any money) and renting (also not having any money). We discuss Francis' recent trip to Hawaii, Nate finally escaping Normal Island for good, and joining strike lines

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Francis talks about the novel Have Snakes, Need Birds with author Travis Klempan. Travis weaves a story of deployment boredom mixed with spiritual horror as Sgt. Mackinzie finds himself in the middle of a metaphysical war between two ancient spirits. All while trying to keep track of the physical war which threatens him and his team every day.

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KD is back this month to pit steel against stone as the Shaolin Monks take on the Maori. Are there multiple Hakas? Yes. Is everything basically a club? Yes. Is someone oddly racist at a computer at the very end? You bet your ass.

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Journalist and returning guest Jasper Craven recently went through security guard training and six months of employment to write about the experience. It's a mix of bad training, worse instructors, and a lot of people just trying to get a job. You can read his reporting here in Harpers Magazine 

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We discuss the news up to September 20th. Any news happening after that we cannot be accountable for. This week, it's the first piece of "history" gun guys go for (because they're dirt cheap), the SKS. We also talk about the North Carolina governor race and a bailiff getting a little wild in the judges chambers.

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It’s another DadChat featuring Nate and Francis, and in this week’s episode we’re talking all sorts of things: relocation expenses, pre-positioning supplies when changing babies, and the surprisingly varied ways in which people make coffee on the eastern side of the Atlantic. Which is to say, Francis has never actually had someone explain to him what espresso actually is. We also answer a lot of Ask A Dad questions!

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This week Francis and Carey watch two more episodes of MASH. We are nearly done with Season 2, and the characters really start to come out. Klinger is better dressed, Radar is getting some (theoretically), and Hawkeye's eyes have never been so blue.

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For this week’s DadChat, we have a special guest: Jack Forman, who’s been on before and who is now helping produce the show while Nate navigates the alpine labyrinth of Swiss bureaucracy. And in this episode, Jack discusses his experience as a former elementary school teacher, and what the oft-discussed ‘back to school’ period is like for teachers and school staff. We very much hope you enjoy it!

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Francis has missed his train, or at least one of them, and Nate took a train to enjoy the air conditioning in the middle of a European heat wave. We discuss the travails of being an Amtrak passenger, the experience of riding in the jungle gym car on CFF trains, and much more. 

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Nate’s finally moved to yet another country even further from Indiana, and for this week’s episode he and Francis discuss the travails of being the single member of your family who speaks the language of the country you’re in, the inevitability of your kids making fun of you for speaking that language badly, and much more.

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The Zoo Crew is back for this month's Deadliest Warrior. It's our first group on group battle with modern weapons. Come for the ballistics knife and stay as we speculate how many war crimes each person did in Afghanistan.

This week Jack Forman joins Francis to discuss a multi week trip to various National Parks on the western seaboard. There is also advice on how to get a cat (open your door, one will eventually walk in) and how much we love to BE in the outdoors but not SLEEP in it

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Francis and Carey watch For Want of a Boot and Operation Noselift and learn sometimes fifty year old TV shows don't hold up very well.

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This is a special supplemental episode this week featuring friend of the show and investigative journalist Samantha Asumadu (@SamanthaAsumadu)

This episode continues Sam Asumadu’s interview with Tom Fowler on the topic of the Spycops inquiry, and the degree to which the British state has attempted to scuttle any and all social justice protests, while at the same time ensuring the far right has a free pass. Tom is the host of the Spycops Info Podcast, which is available here: https://spycops.info/

If you missed part 1, check it out here: https://five.libsyn.com/show/episodes/view/32524677

Spycops may not be a familiar story to American listeners, but the summarized version is: the British state has recently admitted to using secret deep-cover police to infiltrate activist groups for over 30 years, using stolen identities and encouraging officers to enter into relationships with activists (to include fathering children) only to abandon them once their mission ended.

As Sam describes in this episode, the surveillance (and sabotage of activist groups) is something still happening to this day.

Check out Tom's work and social media posts here: https://x.com/tombfowler

Check out Sam's bio and newsletter here: https://samanthaasumadu.substack.com/about

For more of Sam's investigative work, check out the following links:

https://www.thecanary.co/opinion/2024/06/27/labour-forde-report/

https://www.thecanary.co/uk/analysis/2024/07/30/priti-patel-conservative/

https://samanthaasumadu.substack.com/p/this-is-unusual

https://www.thecanary.co/long-read/2024/08/09/axis-of-evil-new/

For this week’s episode, we’re talking about big DIY projects and the immense feeling of accomplishment from something actually working the way it’s supposed to, especially if the process of getting there… involved some detours. Hope you enjoy!

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Sure you love the Olympics, but what about all the cool sports that don't get showcased? Like fan paragliding and Handball? That's what The World Games are for

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This is a special supplemental episode this week featuring friend of the show and investigative journalist Samantha Asumadu (@SamanthaAsumadu)

In part 1 of this interview series, Sam speaks with activist and reporter Tom Fowler, who's been documenting the Spycops inquiries in the UK—and who was himself part of a group infiltrated by Spycops in the 2000s. Tom is the host of the Spycops Info Podcast, which is available here: https://spycops.info/

Spycops may not be a familiar story to American listeners, but the summarized version is: the British state has recently admitted to using secret deep-cover police to infiltrate activist groups for over 30 years, using stolen identities and encouraging officers to enter into relationships with activists (to include fathering children) only to abandon them once their mission ended.

As Tom's interview reveals, the details are even more unsettling than what's summarized above.

Part 2 will be out next week!

Check out Tom's work and social media posts here: https://x.com/tombfowler

Check out Sam's bio and newsletter here: https://samanthaasumadu.substack.com/about

For more of Sam's investigative work, check out the following links:

https://www.thecanary.co/opinion/2024/06/27/labour-forde-report/

https://www.thecanary.co/uk/analysis/2024/07/30/priti-patel-conservative/

https://samanthaasumadu.substack.com/p/this-is-unusual

https://www.thecanary.co/long-read/2024/08/09/axis-of-evil-new/

For this week's DadChat, Nate and Francis join former Trashfuture intern and friend of the show Keaton to discuss what it's actually like being 18 in 2024, and why the iron law of nostalgia means that kids are now playing 2000s music at parties under the guise of classic throwback jams. We come out of the experience feeling enlightened and very, very old.

Eric Peacock from the podcast Soundtracker joins Francis to talk about the Disney movie Mulan. The Music! The violence! The talking dragon voiced by Eddie Murphy. Strap in and we'll make a man out of you!

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For this week’s episode, Nate and Francis discuss how to manage when your kids (like all kids) show poor impulse control, Nate’s recent experiences in the Netherlands, and how the game changes when your baby suddenly learns how to crawl. We very much hope you enjoy.

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Nate and Francis are back for another dadchat, this time discussing: does an appeal to fairness help subtly encourage your kid to not trust cops? Does it count as vacation if you get sick? And have you ever built a computer from scratch?

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A surprising amount of towns in Indiana will give you money to move there. As our resident Hoosier, Nate takes Francis around the state to point out everywhere you shouldn't live

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This week we're talking rebrands. The same show as you know it, but soon to be What a Hell of a Way to Dad. Also, the overlooked technical, Disney World changes to their disability access pass, and more

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Nate and Francis reconvene for a DadChat on the topic of upcoming vacations and all the incredible things you can eat in Hawaii. Undying love for lilikoi? Check. A deep dive into the origins of li hing mui mango? Check. Odes to the wonderment of 7-11 foods? It’s all there.

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This month Jordan and Greg from Brigham Young Money join Francis to watch a faceoff between the Japanese Yakuza and American Mafia. 

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This week Francis talks to Steve Beynon about his reporting on On base child care, Solders getting fooled by Russian Honeypots, and Dining Facilities looking like Airport food kiosks

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This week Francis shows off his second hand pickups, watches a Bradley Fighting Vehicle throw hands, and looks for more ways to expand the show.

Nate and Francis are back for a dadchat and we’re talking Boy Scouts (no idea how we got to this topic). We were not Eagle Scouts and don’t have any stake in defending the institution, but we reflect on our experiences as weird goofy nerds in uniforms (before the military).

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It’s Father’s Day in the US and UK. In this episode, Nate and Francis are back with a DadChat that spans many topics... but particularly emphasizes the fact that, while vaping is better than smoking, you may be unable to resist its power.

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This week Francis and Nate discuss baby's first head bonk, preteen's first kiss, and how you too can set up a complex series of decades old cables to get that weird buzz out of your recordings

This week Francis talks with Texas journalist Chris Hooks who attended the Plano, Tx Hapsbug convention. Come meet all the factions of royalists, come hear about the hurdles to get to sainthood, and come enjoy the Terminally Online Eudard Hapsburg

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Francis is joined by Kelly to pick over another Deadliest Warrior episode. This month, a French Knight from the 15th century squares off with a low rent Captain Jack Sparrow in the scrub brush of Southern California. If you're into deep dives of Canadian History, then check out Kelly's show and more on Link Tree - https://linktr.ee/bornunderpunchs

Nate and Francis discuss the perennial troop phenomenon of getting dumped overseas, the goal of being a better person in your forties than you were in your twenties, the stereotypes associated with various universities in the Midwest, and the important ask-a-dad question of ‘is there a uniformly good brand of diapers?’ Hope you enjoy!

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This week Francis talks with museum collections manager Lilith from the National Japanese American Historical society. We discuss moving your collections, doing provenance research, and begging you not to donate your grandfathers dirty Korean War era underwear.

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Nate and Francis are back for a DadChat, this time discussing important questions such as: what if your kid gets into Roblox? What if your kid just likes reading a lot? Are video games better or worse for you now than they were in 1989? And an essential Ask A Dad question: what sort of gifts should you get for new parents?

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This month we watch a classic action flick that most of have never seen. It's got all the memes, the blood, the guy constantly shaving, and all the unlimited ammo magazines you could need Get the FULL episode at the $5 a month level, and access to seven years of bonus content - https://www.patreon.com/posts/104170458 

For this week's DadChat, Francis speals with Chris James (@theCJS) of the Guys Podcast about his experiences in parenting a newborn. As in, he's got a one-month-old and he's extremely sleep-deprived, but there's already so much to talk about. Very much hope you enjoy!

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Note: this DadChat was recorded back in March right before Nate had a family emergency, so if it seems out-of-date it’s due to that.

For this week’s DadChat, Nate and Francis discuss the perennial question of ‘when is it the correct time to have a kid?’ And the answer is: whenever the circumstances work for you, but there’s always something happening that makes it a challenge. And once it happens you will never sleep normally again. 

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For this week’s DadChat, Nate and Francis examine just what would constitute an ‘I remember the 2000s’ cultural encapsulation. As someone who literally owned an ‘All Your Base Are Belong to Us’ shirt (Nate) and a guy who experienced the red ring of death on an Xbox 360 (Francis), we simply know the source material too well. Also in this episode: Nate having to wage war against the British postal service because one guy apparently has the power to send your mail to the bottom of the ocean if he doesn’t want to load a heavy package on a truck.

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This month Francis is joined by Quinn from the Failure to Launch podcast for Deadliest Warrior: Spartan vs Ninja. Spears, shields, swords and...pocket sand? Get the full episode here at the $5 level - https://www.patreon.com/Hellofawaytodie 

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This week Francis is joined by Forestry expert and conservationist Calvin Norman to discuss the impact of the War in Ukraine on the local ecology, and the extent it's going to take to get it back up and running again. Calvin also shares some of his favorite existential horrors that are less 'How do I pay my bills' and more 'will this hamburger eat my brain?' Check out the many webinars we discuss here - https://extension.psu.edu/the-war-in-ukraine-impacts-on-the-people-forests-and-environment 

For this week’s DadChat, Nate and Francis discuss books they’re reading, which leads to an examination of how Nate wound up giving the work of Ursula Le Guin and Phillip K. Dick a try, and why he strongly recommends both. We also discuss childhood insomnia and recommendations for easy-to-manage herb gardens. It’s a DadChat package deal.

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Veteran and Author John Milas joins Francis to discuss his debut horror Novel Militia House, set in 2010 Afghanistan and following a couple of bored Marines stuck in the middle of nowhere. John discusses his journey from Marine to author, his writing process, and what it is about horror that people love

Pick up Militia house here or wherever you get books - https://www.amazon.com/Militia-House-Novel-John-Milas/dp/1250857066

This week Francis talks with Greg of the Brigham Young Money Podcast about raising your kids around Religion. Greg is an ex Morman and Francis an ex Catholic and discuss how to talk about God and beliefs when you don't believe yourself

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This week Military.com reporter Steve Beynon stops by to update us on some of his more recent stories, such as a four star general greasing the wheels for a subordinate to be promoted, Special Forces once again getting caught with Nazi patches, and Chow Hall dining kiosks

Special Forces - https://www.military.com/daily-news/2024/03/27/army-shared-image-of-special-forces-soldier-wearing-nazi-patch.html 

General Hamilton suspended - https://www.military.com/daily-news/2024/03/22/army-4-star-who-pressured-panel-help-career-of-unfit-officer-suspended-facing-pentagon-investigation.html

DFAC Kiosks - https://www.military.com/daily-news/2024/02/29/army-going-all-food-kiosks-base-dining-facilities-struggle.html 

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This week the Zoo Crew is headed to Man Camp. We're dropping enough money to buy a new Toyota Corolla and instead of having a sensible car with low miles, we're getting slurs screamed at us by an angry Armenian guy

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Content warning: Suicide

This week Davis Winkie comes on the show to talk about his deep dive into the suicide epidemic faced by Army Tank units

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This week Francis discusses the Navy. But not the American Navy, the Army Navy. Also covered is the Thai Navy shooting itself (Because it's nice to know it's not just us) and the National Guard dicking around on their phones in the Subway stations.

Instead of a madia section, we're back to reading from anti war zines of the 1970s. I've been running through a lot of Sharpe books and while they are fun, they are also hardly conversational

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This week Francis brings Jack Forman, formerly of the Sirius XM station Kids Place Live on the show. Jack has run a kids call-in show for eleven years, taking thousands of calls from kids all around North America and now finds himself let go, but still continuing his vision. We talk about conversations with kids, 'kindie' music, and strange Italian songs

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Francis' Kindie spotify playlist - https://open.spotify.com/playlist/2xBjExvKyUFksCmLL8RPGf?si=706be46f40c6465f 

Prisencolinensinainciusol - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-VsmF9m_Nt8&ab_channel=LePietreRotolanti

For this week’s DadChat, Nate and Francis talk about their first cars… but also a discussion of what goes into sound production for podcasts, the roller-coaster of your child getting every germ on earth when they start nursery, and some discussions for fans of war-themed genre fiction. Hope you enjoy!

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This week Francis talks with Emerson, a fellow Public Affairs troop, but for the Air Force. We discuss the fun of being in PAO, the differences in the branches, and how much better it is to be an airman than a soldier

It’s DadChat, and we’ve got a spirited discussion about dealing with old houses and their old house problems, solid vs. hollow walls, the hobbies we picked up from our own dads, and the strange situation where British banks let landlords take out interest-only mortgages that were, of course, adjustable-rate mortgages. You can imagine how that went. Hope you enjoy?

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This week it's all about the Air Force as Francis discusses three stories from the branch we all love to hate.

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National Guard story - https://www.militarytimes.com/news/pentagon-congress/2024/03/01/guard-officials-probing-texas-generals-appearance-at-trump-rally/

Jack Teixeira - https://taskandpurpose.com/news/air-national-guard-leaker-jack-teixeira-gets-16-year-prison-sentence/

New Air Force regulations - https://www.military.com/daily-news/2024/03/01/no-salute-zones-watch-caps-gym-bags-air-force-summarizes-new-policies-following-raft-of-changes.html 

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 For this week’s DadChat, Nate and Francis convene on the topic of whether America or Britain hates kids more, the milestone of leaving your kid at daycare, Francis’ recent experiences reading books about Navy SEALs, and an Ask A Dad question about how to be good at being an uncle. We hope you enjoy!

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This week Francis discusses a Chinese Jody looking at 10 months in prison for doing Jody stuff. We also dive back into the 1943 Women's Home Companion and the sunsetting of yet another free benefit for troops that's being taken away.

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Jody - https://www.militarytimes.com/off-duty/military-culture/2024/02/22/chinese-jody-hit-with-jail-time-after-stealing-military-spouse/

Army E-Learning - https://www.pdmatis.army.mil/e-Learning-Sunsetting-FAQ.pdf

Once upon a time there was an incredible show called Deadliest Warrior which took stoned conversations guys had in the mid aughts about who would win a fight and put it to some of the goofiest tests you've ever seen. Francis is joined by KD to talk about the Gladiator vs Apache Warrior

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This week Francis interviews Jordan from the Better Way 2A organization. We discuss gun rights, legislation, arming your queer friends, and handling all the latest at Shot Show 2024 Find out more about the organization here - https://www.abetterway2a.com/ 

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For this week’s DadChat, Nate and Francis discuss relationships: what they’ve learned from previous ones, what they appreciate about their partners, how they’ve tried to improve upon years of making mistakes, and how fortunate they both feel to have met people who like them despite their (conspicuous) flaws. And you get a few stories about first meetings and weddings and so on. We very much hope you enjoy it

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This week Francis talks mystery books, Ukraine, and why the HELL THE SAILORS GET TO PUT THEIR HANDS IN THEIR POCKETS NOW!

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Stories cited

JD Vance - https://www.military.com/daily-news/2024/02/18/republican-opponent-of-us-aid-ukraine-brings-his-case-international-conference.html 

Military Housing - https://taskandpurpose.com/military-life/department-of-defense-housing-barracks-strategy-living-conditions/ 

Hands in Pockets - https://www.military.com/daily-news/2024/02/14/navy-lifts-ban-sailors-putting-hands-pockets-rolls-out-various-new-uniform-changes.html 

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It’s another DadChat in which we discuss Francis’s catholic upbringing, making Indianapolis a site of religious pilgrimage (place the reliquary in Monument Circle), British actors doing extremely good American accents, and much more. We also field an ‘Ask A Dad’ question: how do you avoid making the same mistakes your parents did?

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Voted on by our Patreons, The Zoo crew watches the very forgettable Battle Los Angeles. We mourn the first casualties of the war effort (Coasties) and marvel at Aaron Ekhart's jawline.  You can get this episode and more at the $5 level of the Patreon, and have the opportunity to vote on the next movie

Nate and Francis discuss learning to play music. Well, really it’s more an episode where Francis asks Nate about why he plays music and how he got back into it starting at age 35. And we also discuss Francis’s new goal of learning to paint, and the idea that you can stave off a midlife crisis by deciding to pursue new interests (so long as they’re not self-destructive ones! Don’t do that!)

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This week on the show, Francis covers the privitization of Army Barracks, Lt Colonels who need to be fired into the sun (all of them), and the second amendment allowing a man to keep a cold war era, Nuclear capable rocket

For the media, we're talking Underwater action thrillers and Attack on Titan

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For this week’s episode, Nate and Francis discuss the travails of having (or not having) dental insurance in America, how it’s different in the United Kingdom, and why Nate is still dealing with the consequences of an unfortunate game of basketball in 2007. The conversation also somehow touches on the subject of P-1/P-2 visas for Afghans who helped the U.S. military. No one can claim we don’t have range.

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This week Francis dives into some local politics as a Missouri state senator is trying to bring back dueling. Also covered is the Drone attack on Tower 22, specifically how a drone managed to follow another drone into the area of attacks

For media, we cover Masters of the Air and the book Storm of Steel

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This week Francis speaks with Rob, the creator of the app Hots and Cots. From moldy barracks and closed dining facilities to palatial living quarters and snow crab chow, it's the place for your troops to show off the good, bad, and ugly of military bases

Download the app here - https://www.hotscots.app/ 

This week’s free episode is another DadChat in which Francis discusses his experience reading Brian Jacques’ “Redwall” to his daughter, a long discussion to form indisputable proof that the Redwall badgers are Scottish, and much more.

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Joe Kassabian stops by to discuss the current charges of genocide against Gaza and the Palestinian people. This episode was recorded Jan 10, 2024 so we're working with the knowledge we had at the time. Namely that the Dersh was going to be way more involved than he actually is

For this week’s free episode, it’s a DadChat in which Nate and Francis discuss the calamity of having your sewer stop working, what it’s like to watch your kid get immunized and know it’s for the better good (but also internally freak out at them being in pain), how to subtly but steadfastly encourage your kid to not want to become a cop, and much more. 

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This week Francis discusses the final folding of PS Magazine, the only cool graphic novel the military ever funded. We also talk about Top Gun, Redwall, and pulling a Dante to put all the people we don't like in Hell. If you like this, get even more on our Patreon. Your money makes it so we don't have to try to sell you mail order mattresses - https://www.patreon.com/Hellofawaytodie

Nate is back on the show and recounts to Francis his story of becoming a father… and some unexpected events that took place later. It’s a fun and heartwarming episode that also contains a lot of descriptions of what you might call medical malpractice related trauma. So, just be advised. But there are also laughs!

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This week Francis discusses some changes to the Patreon, fun times at the Costco Business center, Iraq finally kicking us out, and the disappearence of our Sec Def

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We're back with another news roundup with Francis. This year we're getting Nate back, making changes to the Patreon, and finding new ways to get content into your ears

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In this episode, Seth Bullock decided braining a native american with a rock was enough killing for him and sends the killer of Wild Bill to the cops for prosecution. He's...a complicated man

It's the Holiday and as a present to you, here's the interview Francis did with Max from Eve6 about being a middle aged, alt rock dad

It's that special time of year where you gather around the fire with your loved ones, cozy in with some hot cocoa, and watch your favorite Christmas movie. And while a Chinese move full of propaganda about the time they beat back the US Army at Lake Changjin (The Chosin Resevoir for you America heads) isn't really a Christmas movie, the battle took place about the same time so we're gonna count it.

You'll laugh, you'll cry, you'll cheer when two tanks go head to head and one shoots the other's shell out of the air

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This week on the news update we have some War Crimes News (Not the ones you're thinking of), some West Point conversation (Not the kind you're thinking of) and some Hey Dad Questions.

This week's bonus episode is about Godzilla Minus One. We open our hearts to a nuclear monster - https://www.patreon.com/posts/godzilla-minus-94938921

Modern Warfare Institute winning essay - https://mwi.westpoint.edu/sustaining-the-all-volunteer-force-means-streamlining-army-recruitment/

Soldier F murder trial - https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-northern-ireland-67679180

**NOTE: We are aware Francis' audio is a bit wonky in the first 15 seconds. It's evened out after that**

This week Francis is joined by Dusty from the band Vision Video. He is also known for having a great TikTok presence as your favorite goth dad. We discuss our times in war, the military to goth band pipeline, and how there's more weird Soldiers in the Army than you think. 

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Army news has been pretty slow this week, so answer dad questions from the discord. Don't worry, we're all in this together

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This week Francis is discussing an app to rate your favorite barracks, how half of the US would suggest the military to someone they love (hate), and Armed Forces Brewing Company being denied a location due to them being complete dicks

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Hots and Cots app - https://www.armytimes.com/news/your-army/2023/10/05/stuck-in-shoddy-barracks-soldiers-made-an-app-to-review-them/

Recommending the military - https://www.militarytimes.com/news/your-military/2023/11/30/half-of-us-would-recommend-military-service-to-loved-ones-report-says/?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=tw_at  Armed Forces Brewing - https://www.militarytimes.com/off-duty/military-culture/2023/12/04/military-themed-brewery-sparks-fight-in-virginia-military-city/?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=tw_at 

This week Francis is joined by Tom Novelly from Military.com. We discuss getting stoned in the military, secret airplanes we all know about, and whoopsies with nuclear capable devices

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This week Francis wrestles with an article about VA benefits from The Hill, watches First Blood, and goes over the most important part of body armor: The Groin Flap

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How Runaway disability compensation is straining Veterans Affairs - https://thehill.com/opinion/national-security/4304058-how-runaway-disability-compensation-is-straining-veterans-affairs/

Space Force officers earns Ranger tab - https://www.stripes.com/branches/space_force/2023-10-16/space-force-guardian-army-ranger-tab-11725891.html 

Life on the Mississippi by Rinker Buck - https://www.amazon.com/Life-Mississippi-Epic-American-Adventure/dp/1501106376 

This week Francis is mad online because of a tweet, we read from the Woman's Home Companion, and we open some Desert Storm trading cards (and you can get some too!)

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On Patreon this week, Francis and Carey answer questions. Everything from gun range team building to polycule etiquette.

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Nuclear Anthropogist Martin Pfeiffer joins Francis to talk about one of the more insane weapons the Americans developed during the Cold War: The Davy Crockett.

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Writer and conflict journalist James Stout is back on the show to talk about his recent trip around the Kurdish regions of Iraq and Syria. Kurdish allies are still on the front lines against ISIS, but often find themselves hung out to dry by the American Government time and time again.

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It's a time of Anniversaries. Three years since Francis left the Army, Seven years of Podcasting, and sixteen years of free entrees for veterans at your Neighborhood Applebees

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A-10 article - https://www.defenseone.com/technology/2023/11/-10-and-f-35-competed-close-air-support-tests-years-ago-report-just-surfaced/391754/ 

Recruiter crisis - https://www.military.com/daily-news/2023/11/01/army-suddenly-and-chaotically-told-hundreds-of-soldiers-they-have-be-recruiters-immediately.html 

This week Francis discusses Army base renaming, and we read about a Navy guy getting in trouble for doing Navy guy stuff. We also cover a story about about rural Missouri and the immigrants who found home here.

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Davis Winkie of Army Times joins Francis to talk about how the Peacetime Army is taking a big step back and trying to figure out if you really need to do all these oil changes on trucks that never move. Find Davis on

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This week we're doing something a little different. This is the audio from the weekly videos Francis has been putting up on Youtube. The series discusses military news, updates and changes in the shop, and features readins from various anti war publications put out during Vietnam.

While these episodes are more for a visual medium, I do describe the graphics I am using in detail. The hope is to put these up every week as a suppliment to the regular (and bonus) episodes. More content for the content Gods! This week Francis talks about Marines on TikTok confessing to crimes, and how we're about to lose some Navy SEALs to Steroid testing.

Readings from A Four Year Bummer

This week we're unlocking an episode from the Patreon Archives about dueling, and the many ways people have sought to kill each other like gentlemen. Sometimes you're in a balloon. Sometimes you're fighting a dog. Either way, someone is dying in the dumbest way possible. If you like this episode and want more, we have seven years of archives waiting for you for just five dollars a month at https://www.patreon.com/Hellofawaytodie. We appreciate your support in whatever way you can give it to us!

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Plague has come to deadwood, and the Zoo Crew is chatting about getting injected with the worst vaccine (Smallpox). We also lament with Joe his flight from Armenia and the vacuum cleaner he left behind

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This week Francis interviews one of the Army Subreddit moderators u/Kinmuan (Paul). The two discuss the growth of the Army subreddit, the changes the group has been able to enact in Army policy, and the delicate balance when you know the Sgt. Maj. of the Army is reading your posts

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Carey and Tom watch Boondock Saints, a movie that is only good if you're an impressionable teenager in 1999.

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Bryan Quinby from the Guys podcast tells us what it's like raising a teenager without rules, how to be friends with your kid, and hating lawns.

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Francis is joined by Joe Kassabian of the Lions Led by Donkeys podcast discusses the current state of the Armenian/Azeri war. He gives a brief history of the conflict surrounding the Nagorno-Karabakh area, which has been threatened by Azerbaijan for decades. We discuss where the region is now, what may be coming in the near future, and interventions which should, but are not, being taken to prevent a genocide.

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The US Government has put up a website for declassified videos featuring unidentified phenomena. Francis and Nick grab their favorite probing device and dive in to the world of UAPs

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Max Collins from the band Eve6 joins Francis to discuss fatherhood while touring, being in bed by 10:30, and the abject panic of losing your keys

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Podcast legal council Carey (@Shocks) joins Francis to discuss the rise and fall of America's Mayor as he gets hemmed up by RICO charges

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The last episode recorded before Nate becomes a father. Francis crams in as much last minute advice as possible, Nate talks about all the work he's done to prepare, and then we talk about Tactical Baby Wearing

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This week Francis talks with Army Times reporter Davis Winkie about the latest developments on the Mexico border. This time: National Guard soldiers decided to start using Whatsapp to spy on migrants. Which really isn't all that legal as it turns out

Read Davis' article here: https://www.armytimes.com/news/your-army/2023/08/29/texas-guardsmen-spied-on-migrants-via-whatsapp-mishandled-secret-docs/ 

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For this week’s episode, Nate speaks with sociologist Sofya Aptekar (@sofyaaptekar), a professor at the CUNY School of Labor and Urban Studies, about her book ‘Green Card Solider: Between Model Immigrant and Security Threat.’ Many people don’t realize that you can enlist in the US military without citizenship—and that, at least for a time, the US military helped facilitate naturalization as a US citizen. But it turns out that it’s not always (or even often) the primary driver of green card holders being recruited. And the experience of thousands of deported veterans can also attest to the fact that veteran status does not guarantee any protection to non-citizens.

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It’s an ultra DadChat this week where we discuss how to keep your basement from getting too damp, Nate deploying New Yorker Voice on the unsuspecting British, the concept of a shotgun shack, a long digression into the fact that other countries have different voltages and power plugs, and much more.

But, starting at 49:22, we answer one of the more interesting Ask A Dad questions we’ve gotten: what do you do when you have moments of clarity about how to parent—moments that contrast how you are as a parent versus how you were raised—and what was your reaction? We hope you enjoy the conversation!

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This week, Nate and Francis discuss the complaints of the city of Sioux City, Iowa regarding the fact that the Navy named a ship after them and then decommissioned it after only five years because the ship can’t propel itself (total cost: billion of dollars). We also recount the story of Nate getting press-ganged into free labor while doing a Special Forces exercise, which resulted in forced digging with the reward of something called a Bo Box. We hope you enjoy!

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For this week’s free episode, Francis tells Nate all of the things that he thinks all soon-to-be-parents should be aware of. This is obviously aimed at dads, but there’s wisdom all around re: your relationships, your personal autonomy, and much more. We very much hope you enjoy it.

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Francis and Nate discuss the conundrum of which of your childhood faves are appropriate when it comes to showing them to your own kids. We’re elder Millennials and as such have a fondness for movies that are actually deep down a lot more flawed than our memories let us remember. For example: the Neverending Story, Labyrinth, The Black Cauldron, and many more. We also answer some ‘Ask A Dad’ questions that we hope you’ll find helpful.

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Francis has never seen Robin Hood: Prince of Thieves. Nate simply can’t believe that a 40-year-old guy raised on VHS cassettes hasn’t seen this. We also talk about playing music for your kids, the strange career of They Might Be Giants, and ask-a-dad advice on getting weird stains out of various surfaces. We hope you enjoy!

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We're back with Tom and Shocks discussing the 2008 Colin Farrell film IN BRUGES, a singularly original film about an Irish guy who is ruining his own life for a variety of reasons related to... well, crime, the Irish experience, dealing with the English, European perverts, firearms, drugs, a race-war obsessed dwarf, and so much more.

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For this week’s free episode, Francis and Nate chat about Nate’s impending fatherhood, teaching kids to love music (or at least to love messing with synthesizers), Francis’ daughter deciding to start her own podcast, and much more. We very much hope you enjoy it!

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We're back at it, reviewing the '70s-'80s hit TV series M*A*S*H and all of the elements that have either aged okay or aged extremely poorly. This episode includes the full Zoo Crew of Francis, Joe, and Shocks, and we're simply diving headlong into 40+ year old TV tropes. Hope you enjoy!

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For this week’s free episode, Francis speaks with friend of the show and Army Times reporter Davis Winkie (@davis_winkie) about his recent news stories. In particular, they discuss an emerging court case that might remove federal control over the state units. It’s of course related to Texas Governor Gregg Abbott wanting the state of Texas to be able to ignore DoD immunization requirements. It’ll be years before this could wind up in the Supreme Court, but the consequences could be far-reaching… and very, very stupid.

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For this week’s free episode, Francis and Nate reminisce about the difficulty of the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles NES game, video game violence, and why nothing ever changes in the UK. We hope you enjoy.

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We recorded an episode about Pat Robertson's death, among other things, and realized that a lot of people might not know how much of a cultural figure he was—in addition to being a huge bastard. We've been told it's not appropriate to celebrate someone dying, but guess what? We're gonna.

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For this week’s free episode, Francis is joined by historian and submersible expert Taylor …… to discuss the recent OceanGate disaster, what possibly went wrong, and how submersibles are more generally used outside of the military. We hope you enjoy.

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For this week’s free episode, Nate is joined by Tom and Joe to discuss recent news in the UK in which the government is planning on causing as much harm to queer kids as possible. This is basically the Hell of a Way pride month episode in which we explore grim topics, reminisce about Queen music videos from the 1980s, and laugh when Tom invents a slur for straight people. We hope you enjoy.

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For this week’s free episode, Francis speaks to reporter and academic James Stout about his recent experiences at the US-Mexico border, the ways in which the government is seeking to find new ways to deny people asylum claims, and the significant numbers of Afghans affected by the war getting denied their (legal!) right to asylum. We also touch on James’s academic specialization: the history of anarchism in the 20th century, and what future it might have in our time–which is informed by his current research on anarchist groups fighting in wars around the globe.

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For this week’s free episode, Francis speaks to someone who spent part of their career on a submarine, in order to ask the all-important question: why would you do that? And what is it actually like?

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This week, Nate and Francis discuss heeding the fatherly urge of making home repairs while dealing with the ‘landlord special’, the state of Midwest public transportation, and a recent story involving a group of unruly California teens overpowering three Marines in a viral video that’s making Facebook uncles absolutely furious.

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This week, Nate and Francis discuss the possibility of upcoming moves (Nate to Switzerland, Francis to Illinois, maybe). Nate also discusses the story in which he wrote down that, in the event of him dying during military service, he wanted to have his ashes scattered in Lake Geneva within sight of the statue of Freddy Mercury (it seemed funny at the time). All this, and much more!

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This week, Francis and Shocks get Joe to explain Eurovision to them. After having moved to the absolute extremity of southeast Europe, Joe has found himself surrounded by people who watch it and enjoy it. So, for the benefit of unreconstructed Americans like the rest of his cohosts, he explains what it is and why people care. Hope you enjoy!

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This week, Francis speaks Army Times reporter Davis Winkie (@davis_winkie) about a recent investigation he published, which discusses how the Army often administratively discharges soldiers for domestic violence–sparing them a possible criminal conviction even when military prosecutors wanted to refer the cases to the civilian justice system. According to the report, around 450 people discharged administratively in lieu of courts martial over the last 10 years were charged with violent crimes, which means they were spared sex offender registration, prison time, and more.

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This week, Francis speaks with Military dot com reporter Steve Beynon (@StevenBeynon) about recent topics he’s covered: more coverups of a woman soldier’s murder at Fort Hood, lengthy training deployments away from home despite the military being declared as ‘no longer on a war footing,’ and much more. Grim subject matter aside, we hope you enjoy!

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This week, Francis and Shocks discuss the recent Discord leaks, in which a Massachusetts-based Air National Guard guy got so mad about an argument online that he decided to leak classified information about NATO activity in Ukraine, on Discord, for months before he got caught. On one hand, whom among us has not gotten mad online. On the other, might we be the first to ask: what? And why?

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DadChat ends at 20:50!

This week, Nate and Francis discuss a recent story about a 21-year-old Air National Guardsman who took a parody site very, very seriously, to the point that every federal agency jumped in to get him on record incriminating himself. We advise against taking Web 1.0 parody sites seriously, especially if you (one weekend a month, two weeks a year) work for the government.

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DadChat / sandwich chat ends at 13:26!

Francis found a story at Task and Purpose about a drone opera. Well, it’s an opera about being a drone operator, it’s sponsored by General Dynamics, and it’s running in Washington DC only for two weeks this fall. Now, Nate and Francis are no strangers to the discussion around the idea of veterans sharing their stories (cough cough), but this…seems extra?

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This week, Nate and Francis discuss an article from Military dot com in which the authors try to do straight reporting on a Heritage Foundation report about ‘wokeness is killing military recruitment.’ It turns out that, according to their laughably flawed survey, something entirely else is making people wary about joining. However, Nate basically burst a blood vessel in his brain reading it, and will need some time to recover.

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This week, Nate and Francis conduct a DadChat on a special day: it’s Francis’ 40th birthday and we are officially Old. However, we don’t dwell on that too much, but instead discuss the travails of being the one person at work who knows how computers work (and network management, and hardware management, and knowing different kinds of USB plugs). But more importantly, we discuss the storied history of Sierra games, to include their 1981 sexual text game. This is 100 percent real.

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We recorded an episode on the morning of the day that Donald Trump claimed he was going to get arrested. We decided to offer our predictions on what we thought might happen, fully knowing that the situation would most likely change between recording time and publication. Call it a compass check–an assessment of whether or not we know anything at all. We also respond to your Ask A Dad questions. Hope you enjoy!

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This week, Francis speaks with Military Times senior editor Sarah Sicard about the absolute worst military films to grace our screens in 2022. They’re almost always bad, but last year they might have been worse?

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A banner week for DadChat: Nate and Francis discuss how to combat the feeling that you’ve got so much stuff left to do that you can’t relax. We also discuss the Army bringing back its 1980s-vintage recruiting slogan ‘Be all that you can be,’ why ductless mini-split heat pumps are amazing, and offer responses to your ‘Ask a dad’ questions. Hope you enjoy!

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This week, Nate and Francis react to news that a certain patriotic gun troops coffee company is in hot water, both because they’ve failed to make millions of dollars in payments to vendors, and because their CEO got so mad at a guy for being a better shot than him that he allegedly sexually harassed the man for a year. It’s bad stuff! But not surprising. Also: we answer your Ask A Dad questions.

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This week, Nate and Francis discuss a recent Military dot com article about how the U.S. Army may have punished people for positive drug tests because they ate poppy seeds. This 100 percent sounds like an urban legend, but the Army had to make a statement about it and apparently has research scientists on retainer to study this.

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This week, Francis speaks with friend of the show and defense journalist Kelsey Atherton (@athertonkd) about the recent phenomenon of balloon interceptions. What’s the deal with these balloons–what is the technology involved, how come we’re just hearing about it now, and should we be concerned about a balloon-centric conflict in the future?

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This week, Nate speaks with co-producer Thomas O’Mahony (or Irish Tom for short) about his recent series on the Troubles. What is it about Ireland and Irish identity that compels people with any link to the country to invent their own version of it? Why does England have no memory whatsoever of a war it waged in Ireland, and experienced in its own territory? Why can’t Nate pronounce Tom’s last name? All this, and more.

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It’s another DadChat featuring Nate and Francis discussing what the hell it is that makes people get so excited about Branson, Missouri–and much more. We really hope you enjoy!

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Nate and Francis finally managed to meet in person after over six years of podcasting together. And they met at the Eugene V. Debs museum in Terre Haute, Indiana. This episode describes that meeting, and a discussion of the military’s system for drug testing, as well as much more. Did you know Missouri has legal recreational weed but Indiana has zero legal weed and will send you to prison for a single joint? Well, if you’re from Indiana, this isn’t a surprise.

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This week, Francis speaks with Army Times reporter Davis Winkie (@davis_winkie) about a recent feature he published on the topic of the Army’s social media policies, an Army general who was extremely online, and the strange investigation–or vendetta, if you like–that the military develops when someone in uniform disagrees with Fox News.

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This week, Francis speaks with Jack Murphy (@JackMurphyRGR) of the Team House Podcast about the recent Army Criminal Investigation Division investigations at Fort Bragg. Over a dozen Special Forces soldiers have been questioned in a probe of human trafficking, drug trafficking, and much more. It’s safe to say it’s looking bad.

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This week, Nate and Francis convene for a DadChat, discussing the perils of home ownership, how to replace the wax ring on a toilet, why landlords do the worst possible maintenance, the strange fate of Cobra Tate, and much more. We hope you enjoy this very much.

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This week, Nate and Joe are in-studio together for the first time in history, and they’ve brought in friend of the show and trauma therapist Ross Palethorpe (@rossthesedays) to discuss the universal right-wing tendency to howl and cry about gender. Well, specifically about trans people. What is the deal? Why is it the same line in the US, UK, Armenia, and New Zealand? Listen to this episode to learn more.

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This week, Francis speaks with Military dot com reporter Steve Beynon about the U.S. Army ending its relationship with Activision Blizzard and sponsorship of Call of Duty. While we would like to say that the Army is doing this because its realized it should stop trying to hoodwink gamers into enlisting, it’s actually because of the harrassment scandals at that company.

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For this week’s bonus, we're rounding up the holiday traditions of Megachusetts with Joe, Francis, and Carey. It’s another Zoo Crew extravaganza, and it’s available on Patreon here: https://www.patreon.com/posts/zoo-crew-holiday-75781775

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This week, Francis speaks with Task and Purpose contributing editor Nicholas Slayton (@NSlayton) about trench warfare in Ukraine and the recent story where thousands of soldiers at Fort Carson, Colorado were ‘accidentally’ teargassed during a pre-Thanksgiving fun run. Everyone who was in the Army just said ‘yeah, not surprised.’

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This week, Nate and Francis discuss Nate’s recent trip to Australia and New Zealand while touring with his other podcast, Trashfuture. And also the degree to which we still can’t wrap our heads around the ways in which talking into a microphone has changed our lives. Hope you enjoy!

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This week Francis talks with investigative journalist James Stout about the prevelance of 3D printed guns in the hands of revolutinaties fighting against the oppressive and genocidal military government of Myanmar. James met with the many of the young people who have been fighting this war for the last eighteen months.  Check out the five part series featuring interviews with the fighters here

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This week Francis is joined by noted Zoomer and Irishman Tomás O Máthúna (@gotitatguineys) from Beneath the Skin to discuss the most recent Call of Duty Modern Warfare 2 (2022) not to be confused with Call of Duty Modern Warfare 2 (2009). From WWII to zombie Nazis to terrorism in Space, we break down the series, the latest installment, and why we keep subjecting ourselves to it

For the Bonus episode, Francis and Carey watch the Naval history movie Under Siege, one of the few good Steven Segal movies, mostly because every other actor carries it over the finish line.

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This week, Nate and Francis do that thing where old Soldiers talk about old soldier things. Then Francis introduces Nate to the Simon and Garfunkle song Cecilia as done by the Minions. Finally, the two discuss graphic novels then and now and the comics we grew up with

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Shocks and Tom are at it again with tales of Irish folklore and some stories from the Hell of a Way to Die Discord (which you can join by joining the Patreon at any level)

For this week's bonus, Tom and Shocks review the 2011 Irish buddy cop film THE GUARD, featuring Brendan Gleeson and Don Cheadle. It's a fun little movie that is also the most successful independent Irish movie ever. Get it on Patreon here: https://www.patreon.com/posts/33rd-county-part-73773097

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This week, Francis speaks with Task & Purpose reporter Haley Britzky (@halbritz) about the recent Army public-relations disaster, in which a Major General defended women soldiers from Tucker Carlson and was… punished for doing so… by the Army. Sounds great!

For this week's bonus, Tom and Shocks review the 2011 Irish buddy cop film THE GUARD, featuring Brendan Gleeson and Don Cheadle. It's a fun little movie that is also the most successful independent Irish movie ever. Get it on Patreon here: https://www.patreon.com/posts/33rd-county-part-73773097

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This is a full episode of DadChat!

This week, Nate and Francis discuss all-in-one breakfast makers, American drip coffee, huge trucks, the relative insanities of Indiana versus Missouri, and Nate’s recent trip back to the United States.

For this week's bonus, Francis and Shocks discuss some of the specifics of maritime law. As in, Shocks describes the times he's had to seize weed while working in the Coast Guard, and whether or not long-term the US will decriminalize weed federally. Turns out the law is a bit different at sea! Get the episode on Patreon here: https://www.patreon.com/posts/boat-law-feat-73295402

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We've finally gotten Shocks his own show, and we're calling it the 33rd County. It's a show discussing what it means to be Irish, and Irish-American, by virtue of putting one of each together and forcing them to experience the cultural products of both groups. In this inaugural episode, Shocks and cohost Thomas O'Mahony watch the Ben Affleck film THE TOWN and rejoice in its concentrated Boston-area dirtbag energy (exemplified by Jeremy Renner). Hope you enjoy!

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This week, Francis speaks with investigative reporter and friend of the show Ken Klippenstein about a recent story that he’s covered: the fact that the governor of Florida duped a bunch of migrants with a promise of job skills training and instead flew them to Martha’s Vinyard in order to own the libs. It was paid for with money from a GOP donor, and when things didn’t go the way conservative media wanted them to, they just made up a fake version of reality where they did.

Read Ken’s story here: https://theintercept.com/2022/09/21/ron-desantis-marthas-vineyard-republican-donor/

For this week’s bonus, here’s a question for you. Did you know they're calling them Space Force Bases? Does that not seem like it deserves the biggest wedgie in human history? All this and much, much more on this week's bonus, featuring Carey, Joe, and Francis. Get it on Patreon here: https://www.patreon.com/posts/zoo-crew-space-72734987

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For this week's free episode, Francis speaks with Military.com reporter Steve Beynon discusses a new program that lets soldiers pick their duty stations as enlistment incentives. They also talk about terrible conditions in Army barracks, the fact that the Secretary of the Army tried to blame low recruiting numbers on journalists describing reality, and much more.

Read Steve's story here: https://www.military.com/daily-news/2022/09/23/these-are-most-popular-bases-new-soldiers-are-volunteering.html

For this week’s bonus, we've finally gotten Shocks his own show, and we're calling it the 33rd County. It's a show discussing what it means to be Irish, and Irish-American, by virtue of putting one of each together and forcing them to experience the cultural products of both groups. In this inaugural episode, Shocks and cohost Thomas O'Mahony watch the Ben Affleck film THE TOWN and rejoice in its concentrated Boston-area dirtbag energy (exemplified by Jeremy Renner). Get it on Patreon here: https://www.patreon.com/posts/71881814

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This is an entire episode of DadChat! Just in case you’re wondering when we get to the point.

This week, Nate and Francis talk about the Space Force’s official new song, the tendency of the military to require singing at formation in general, and much more.

For this week’s bonus, we've finally gotten Shocks his own show, and we're calling it the 33rd County. It's a show discussing what it means to be Irish, and Irish-American, by virtue of putting one of each together and forcing them to experience the cultural products of both groups. In this inaugural episode, Shocks and cohost Thomas O'Mahony watch the Ben Affleck film THE TOWN and rejoice in its concentrated Boston-area dirtbag energy (exemplified by Jeremy Renner). Get it on Patreon here: https://www.patreon.com/posts/71881814

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For years, the Army has issued everyone who enlists with a medal for ostensible service in the Global War on Terror. Now, that war isn’t technically over–we still have troops deployed to Iraq, Syria, and elsewhere in the Middle East, North Africa, and Central Asia–but according to Military Times reporter Davis Winkie, the war is just over enough for them to stop issuing awards about it.

Read Davis’ article here: https://www.militarytimes.com/news/2022/07/29/no-more-automatic-gwot-service-medals-dod-says/

For this week’s bonus, we've finally gotten Shocks his own show, and we're calling it the 33rd County. It's a show discussing what it means to be Irish, and Irish-American, by virtue of putting one of each together and forcing them to experience the cultural products of both groups. In this inaugural episode, Shocks and cohost Thomas O'Mahony watch the Ben Affleck film THE TOWN and rejoice in its concentrated Boston-area dirtbag energy (exemplified by Jeremy Renner). Get it on Patreon here: https://www.patreon.com/Hellofawaytodie

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This week, Francis and Nate discuss the recent disappearance of Fat Leonard, a comedic figure of Navy bribery and corruption who managed to skip bail 3 weeks before he was due for sentencing. Which was easy, since he was living in a mansion while serving as a star witness for almost a decade. We’ve heard rumors of a two-tiered justice system in America–maybe you’ve heard the same?

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This week, Francis speaks with reporter Jasper Craven about the current state of the Department of Veteran Affairs–the fact that future administrations think the overall veteran population will shrink, the fact that veteran culture is in many ways synonymous with being a chud, and Francis’ hesitancy to ever call anything we do ‘veteran-owned.’ Hope you enjoy!

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Content warning: this episode contains discussion of suicide

BritainChat ends at 31:42!

In this episode, Nate talks about Britain’s current energy crisis, how things got this bad so quickly (and over the course of 43 years), and how he and Cynthia are preparing. We also discuss a recent story about the Canadian VA offering medically assisted suicide to a veteran seeking care for PTSD–although we fully acknowledge the fact that this was sourced from the New York Post and Fox News, so it may be a lot of hype. We envision what that would look like in the US, and we also talk about being almost-adults on 9/11. Hope you enjoy!

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It’s a full episode of DadChat, in which Nate and Francis talk about the futility of trying to stay relevant to rude teens, Jacked Danny Elfman, Britain’s current drought, why it’s much more pleasant when you’re not trying to live like a burnout 20-something in your 40s, and much more.

Shouts out to Thomas O’Mahony, @gotitatguineas, who helped edit this episode and also sourced us a really great feature on Danny Elfman’s workout routine and fitness ethos: https://www.gq.com/story/real-life-diet-danny-elfman

For this week’s bonus, well, it was supposed to be a Zoo Crew discussion of a recent story about military contractors, but Francis, Joe, and Carey simply couldn't stay on topic. So, please enjoy what effectively amounts to a DadChat, except with the alternate cast–you can get the full episode on Patreon here: https://www.patreon.com/posts/70618220?pr=true

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Nate and Francis discuss the PACT act and the burn pit registry, while trying to pay attention to the fact that the only people eligible for compensation are the people part of the group that did the burning (American military people), whereas everyone from third-country contractors to the civilian populations of the various countries occupied get nothing. We also talk about a story that might serve as an example of how to not steal from the Army.

For this week’s bonus, Nate is joined in studio by writer and journalist Jasper Lo of the New Yorker. Before you wonder how we managed to get a real journalist on here: it's because Nate and Jasper were in the same unit together a long time ago. They discuss the subtle art of fact-checking, the difficulty of combating disinformation, and whether or not Glenn Kessler carries a katana. Get it on Patreon here: https://www.patreon.com/posts/counterblaste-to-70248526

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Nate is back and he joins Francis to discuss a recent article in Task and Purpose about a dress-uniform ribbon apparently becoming a more select award when it used to be given to everyone. So, why the change? Are we finally done with the GWOT? Is the Army going to stop giving out ribbons like candy? You be the judge.

For this week’s bonus, Francis pulls a Joe and runs a history lesson about a very badly built boat with our resident boats expert, Carey Shockey. Enjoy the preview in the episode, and if you want the full thing, it’s available here: https://www.patreon.com/posts/true-story-of-69912329

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Quick update for everyone: Nate is out with illness (not covid) and will return soon. In the meantime, Francis is covering down.

This week, Francis speaks with Steve Beynon (@StevenBeynon) of Military dot com about a recent story he wrote in which a church set up a cult and strong armed veterans into funding it with their veterans’ benefits, helped people submit false claims in order to steal their disability funds, and much more. Read about it here: https://www.military.com/daily-news/2022/07/20/church-allegedly-scammed-gi-bill-benefits-proof-more-oversight-needed-advocate-tells-congress.html

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Quick update for everyone: Nate is out with illness (not covid) and will return soon. In the meantime, Francis is covering down.

This week, Francis speaks with Sarah B. (@barnacle_btch) of the It Came From The Sea podcast (@fromtheseapod) on the topic of the Navy, being a linguist, her journey towards ocean science, and the fact that whales don’t get cancer. We hope you enjoy!

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Quick update for everyone: Nate is out with illness (not covid) and will return soon. In the meantime, Francis is covering down.

It’s another military news roundup with Davis Winkie (@davis_winkie), reporter for Army Times, and we’re covering topics like ‘What happens when the Texas National Guard abandons a vehicle in the middle of a nature preserve and leaves a loaded M4 with a full-auto mod inside?’ We hope you will enjoy.

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This week, Francis speaks with Task and Purpose reporter Hayley Britzky (@halbritz) about how the Dobbs decision means that the military now becomes the only abortion provider in some US states, despite the degree to which the Hyde amendment restricts the military from performing abotions in all but the direst circumstances.

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Due to some personal issues we weren’t able to record a new episode this week. This week’s episode is an unlocked bonus which originally appeared on our Patreon in February.

Francis speaks with military tech journalist and friend of the show Kelsey Atherton (@AthertonKD) about developments in the autonomous robot realm. What if the cops were a dog that took your temperature (this exists)? What if a Blackhawk was fully remote? What if we told a robot, 'No war crimes, please'? All this and more on this episode.

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It’s a full hour of DadChat, in which Nate and Francis discuss jokes that small kids find funny, the pain of being owned by a teenager, the first time we can recall seeing our parents drunk, and much more.

For this week’s bonus, Francis speaks with Steve Beynon (@StevenBeynon) of Military dot com about the recent Patriot Front mass-arrest in Idaho, the fact that a huge number of January 6 arrestees were veterans, and the issues of right-wing radicalization in the military. Get it on Patreon here: https://www.patreon.com/posts/deradicalizing-67913175

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DadChat ends at 24:09!

This week, Nate and Francis discuss a recent story about a Chief Warrant Officer 3 in a Special Forces support unit who got hemmed up for selling millions of dollars of government property to civilians. We discuss the ways in which we’ve experienced defrauding the military, and how to avoid capture if you’re up for a good, potential-criminally-indictable scam.

Read the whole story here: https://taskandpurpose.com/news/army-couple-steals-government-funds-sword-weapons-parts/

For this week's bonus, it's a very dark third episode of the Catch-22 series as reviewed by Francis, Joe, and Carey. It’s somewhat like the book, somewhat different, and far more depressing than we’d expected. Hope you enjoy! Get it on Patreon here: https://www.patreon.com/posts/zoo-crew-reviews-67722892

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This week, Francis and Nate discuss Memorial Day, the slow retreat of troop discounts (we think this is a positive thing), some experiential differences between life as a PAO and life as an infantryman, and–perhaps unsurprisingly–yet another story about how Navy morale is so bad that record numbers of sailors are going AWOL. Get the article here: https://taskandpurpose.com/news/sailors-deserting-navy/

For this week's bonus, the Zoo Crew assembles to discuss recent military news involving bear maulings and secret duck pens inside Marines' barracks rooms. On the command of fall out, fall out and form a semicircle around your podcast hosts doing their best to brief you on how to not get eaten by a grizzly. Get the episode on Patreon here: https://www.patreon.com/posts/67528017

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This week, it’s something slightly different: Nate and Cynthia discuss the 22nd season of Law and Order, a show that’s definitely copaganda but has the distinct honor of also becoming a hollow shell of its former self. Gone are the glory days of Lenny Briscoe, and instead we’re met with a world in which computers can solve everything and juries convict podcasters of murder charges, because of their podcasts. Hope you enjoy!

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This week, Francis speaks with Davis Winkie of Army Times about some recent stories he’s reported on, to include a retirement ceremony where a female NCO was ‘motorboated’ by her commander. This wasn’t a spur of the moment thing, either–he’d made it very clear in advance he was going to do this. Anyway, make sure you attend SHARP training, or something.

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This week, Nate and Francis discuss a recent ad put out by the U.S. Army’s psychological operations recruiting unit (should we be calling them MISO? PsyWar? We can never tell) that ascribes a hell of a lot of power to a small section of the military. If you join them, you can help inspire the next Tiananmen Square (??) but also put on Joker makeup. Fires burn backwards because it’s extra scary. No one has any idea what is going on.

Read about the ad and watch the video itself here! https://www.military.com/daily-news/2022/05/16/unsettling-army-recruitment-video-ignites-debate-over-its-mysterious-intent.html

For this week’s bonus, Nate is joined by Cynthia to discuss police procedurals. Why does Cynthia like them so much? Because in her words, they're opposition research--they're what right-wingers think the police are actually like, and nothing is more indicative of this trend than the CBS show Blue Bloods. So, for this first episode of a sub series we're calling CopWatch, Nate has to sit through Blue Bloods S12E18, 'Long Lost,' an episode about how you should respect the Troops, but never think they have what it takes to be the real Troops (cops who do brutality but for good causes). Get it on Patreon here: https://www.patreon.com/posts/66348926

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This week, Francis speaks with Shocks about male birth control. Well, one particular part of it: getting a vasectomy. There’s been a lot of discussion about vasectomies in light of our howling fundamentalist Supreme Court motioning that it plans to allow abortion bans in America. Francis has actually had a vasectomy and discusses it with Shocks in hopes of demystifying the process.

For this week’s bonus, Nate is joined by Cynthia to discuss police procedurals. Why does Cynthia like them so much? Because in her words, they're opposition research--they're what right-wingers think the police are actually like, and nothing is more indicative of this trend than the CBS show Blue Bloods. So, for this first episode of a sub series we're calling CopWatch, Nate has to sit through Blue Bloods S12E18, 'Long Lost,' an episode about how you should respect the Troops, but never think they have what it takes to be the real Troops (cops who do brutality but for good causes). Get it on Patreon here: https://www.patreon.com/posts/66348926

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This week, Francis, Joe, and Carey discuss a recent proposal from slenderman freak and notably virile figure U.S. Senator Josh Hawley, who has jumped on the bandwagon blaming America's woes on the 'demonization of masculinity.' It is of course a weird fixation with no grounding in reality, but this is Francis' Senator and we feel like it's worth examining in detail.

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This week, Francis speaks with defense journalist and subject-matter expert on drone warfare Kelsey Atherton (@athertonkd) to discuss the history of drone warfare, its current manifestations, and what new sorts of machines we can expect to see as the technology of distributed, long-distance warfare becomes more and more common.

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This week, Francis speaks to military dot com reporter Thomas Novelly about his recent article covering post-9/11 veterans’ experiences with the VFW and similar organizations. Thomas makes the point that, after his piece ran, he was inundated with email from younger veterans whose experiences had been almost all overwhelmingly negative. So, what is the future for veterans’ organizations that claim to represent veterans but are mostly very old, very white, and very conservative?

Read Thomas’s piece here: https://www.military.com/daily-news/2022/04/08/vfw-posts-are-dying-they-need-hesitant-9-11-vets-fill-void.html

For this week’s bonus, Francis, Joe, and Shocks are talking about military news stories that caught our attention. There was apparently a unit in the Ohio National Guard where two assigned soldiers got arrested for threats made on Discord--two different Discords and two different crimes. Only one of them threatened to do 9/11 on the Budweiser headquarters, though. Get it on Patreon here: https://www.patreon.com/posts/65307535

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Dadchat ends at 16:19!

Nate and Francis discuss whether or not it’s a good idea to even attempt to save old veterans’ social organizations and fraternal orders. We read a very ill-advised statement from the American Legion’s commander in 2020 where he compared the Black Lives Matter protests to covid-19, discuss the idea of a hostile takeover of VFWs by antifa supersoldier vegan bodybuilder veterans, and much more.

For this week’s bonus, Francis, Joe, and Carey review the recent Hulu miniseries adaptation of Joseph Heller's classic military satire 'Catch-22.' Did you know they named Yossarian not out of a desire to tie him to being Armenian, but to make him sound weird? Learn this, and much more, in our (extremely professional) review. Get it on Patreon here: https://www.patreon.com/posts/65024619

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This week, Francis and Nate are joined by our former cohost Adrian Bonenberger (twitter.com/AdrianBonenber1), who's been reporting from Ukraine for years and recently traveled there to help evacuate his family. We speak about what he experienced there, the narratives surrounding the war, the lessons we can learn from it, and the one thing we all can agree on: Russia not doing any maintenance on its vehicles is very, very funny

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In the first episode for this week, Nate speaks with Sam Asumadu of Media Diversified (@WritersofColour) about far right in places like Ukraine, Myanmar, and the militaries of countries like the UK and US. She's currently researching an article to try and thread the needle of all these stories, and we hope you enjoy this discussion.

Also: Media Diversified is currently on strike in an attempt to protest the unequal response on platforms like Twitter when users report abuse against Black people, specifically Black women, and Romani people. You can see more information about this under the hashtag #DoWeCountToo.

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Dadchat ends at 18:39!

It is the official position of the What a Hell of a Way to Die podcast that Madison Cawthorn is nowhere near cool enough to get invited to cocaine orgies. But he claims to have been, and this has touched off a lot of stupid discussion in the US. Nate and Francis discuss it, and Cawthorn in general, and an argument for why drug prohibition creates the overwhelming majority of issues around drugs.

For this week’s bonus, Francis, Joe, and Carey return with a list of agony aunt questions trawled from the internet, plus a question that one of our patrons asked. What happens when your husband goes full dadmode without being a dad? What happens when it turns out your son shares a name with a famous porn star? Get it on Patreon here: https://www.patreon.com/posts/64269397

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This week, Francis speaks with Military dot com reporter Steve Beynon (@StevenBeynon) about the misery of National Guard deployments to the Texas/Mexico border, a push among Guard soldiers to unionize, and much more. 

For this week’s bonus, Francis made Shocks read a listicle of 'Top Boston Movies' and they discuss it. Some surprising entries on here and some Wahlberg-centric ones, too. Get it on Patreon here: https://www.patreon.com/posts/63837204

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This week, Nate and Francis discuss the Russian invasion of Ukraine and why it’s sometimes better to not feel obligated to have a take. We didn’t think the invasion was going to happen, and we think it’s a human catastrophe that it did. However, when weighing in, it’s often important to know what you’re actually calling for. We go into this in detail, and more, in this episode.

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(Sorry for the delayed episodes--Nate is out with covid and Francis is out of town)

This week, Nate and Milo discuss the peculiarly British phenomenon of calling for the Army to be deployed domestically--whether it's to quell a social conflict or fix a logistics issue. They love to call for the Army to be sent in. We get to the bottom of what this means, and why people want it.

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There’s no Hell of a Way this week, as Nate has covid and Francis left on vacation before the war in Ukraine started. We’ll hopefully be back next week. In the interim, we’re crossposting a piece from Media Diversified (@WritersofColour) director and previous guest Samantha Asumadu, in which she speaks with author Matt Potter about information warfare (both as relates to Ukraine and in general). Thank you for your patience, and hope you enjoy.

For this week’s bonus, Joe, Francis, and Carey discuss a recent story in which some aviation Marines got charged for being idiots on a gondola ride. Yes, you heard that right. Get it on Patreon here: https://www.patreon.com/posts/63322968

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For this week’s bonus, Francis speaks with military tech journalist and friend of the show Kelsey Atherton (@AthertonKD) about developments in the autonomous robot realm. What if the cops were a dog that took your temperature (this exists)? What if a Blackhawk was fully remote? What if we told a robot, 'No war crimes, please'? Find out on Patreon here: https://www.patreon.com/posts/62871816

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Nate and Francis discuss the true story of Captain Tom Moore, the World War II veteran who enchanted Britain by walking around his garden to raise money for the state-funded healthcare service that shouldn’t need to receive charitable donations. He got knighted, he got commemorated, he got sent to Barbados on a charity publicity trip and then got covid and died. But it turns out: it started as elder abuse and ended as a grift! And we talk a lot about Britain’s fixation on its World War symbology, plus a lot more.

For this week’s bonus, Joe, Francis, and Carey read from letters sent to Dear Prudie and determine what they think would be the best possible advice. If your kid is attracted to pokemon or you're looking for the most tactful way to tell your neighbors that you want to swim naked in your above-ground pool, this is the episode for you. Get it on Patreon here: https://www.patreon.com/posts/62550842

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This week, Nate speaks with Sam Asumadu of Media Diversified (@writersofcolour) about her recent piece on the UK’s war in Yemen–that is, the ways in which the UK arms industry’s relationship with Saudi Arabia means that arms sales continue no matter what. We also discuss a lot about UK domestic politics and the relationships between reactionary movements in the US and the developing world. Read Sam’s piece about Yemen here: https://mediadiversified.org/2022/01/30/britain-is-just-as-culpable-for-the-war-in-yemen-as-saudi-arabia/

For this week’s bonus, we go to the southeast border of Europe (sorta): Joe's in Armenia right now and he explains some of the local issues to Francis and Carey, and they also discuss a strange subculture in which Russian men try to cosplay as American rednecks. Get it on Patreon here: https://www.patreon.com/posts/62257879

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This week, Nate and Francis discuss a recent headline about the New Mexico National Guard being called out to serve as substitute teachers due to covid. It turns out it’s a state employee volunteer scheme, but in the course of researching this episode (i.e. reading two articles) we discover that a number of neighboring states have simply reduced the barriers to becoming a teacher. Read the piece here: https://www.npr.org/2022/01/21/1074711399/new-mexico-national-guard-substitute-teachers-shortage?t=1643831438982

For this week’s bonus, Francis, Joe, and Carey discuss a recent proposal from slenderman freak and notably virile figure U.S. Senator Josh Hawley, who has jumped on the bandwagon blaming America's woes on the 'demonization of masculinity.' It is of course a weird fixation with no grounding in reality, but this is Francis' Senator and we feel like it's worth examining in detail. Get it on Patreon here: https://www.patreon.com/posts/61734111

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Nate and Francis discuss the strange phenomenon of the Floridian 20-year-old twins named the ‘Island Boys’ who are receiving Cameo requests to make military-specific greetings–to include requesting that the Marine Corps not boot a guy for a DUI. We read about it here and you can too: https://taskandpurpose.com/culture/island-boys-military-tiktok-videos-cameo/?taid=61f01823dfb48e00010ebd58&utm_campaign=trueAnthem_manual&utm_medium=trueAnthem&utm_source=twitter

For this week’s bonus, Nate and Francis have a dadchat in which Nate is recovering from a cycling-related concussion, and it somehow winds up on the topic of Australia’s extraterritorial detention camps. Get it on Patreon here: https://www.patreon.com/posts/61554308

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This week, Francis speaks with writer Jonathan M. Katz (@KatzOnEarth) about his new book “Gangsters of Capitalism: Smedley Butler, the Marines, and the Making and Breaking of America's Empire.” We learn about Butler’s participation in the Spanish-American War (and in just about every other early-20th century imperial conflict), his exposure of an attempted fascist coup, and his role in subjugating Haiti. In this book, Katz follows in Butler’s footsteps across Central America piecing together the history of the man, the war zones, and the American politics driving them forward.

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This week's bonus features Nate and Francis discussing a variety of things: the 1990 film Ghost and why the hell demons terrified Nate as a small child, his discomfort around bees, Francis's tips on keeping mice out of your house, and a segment of relationship advice directed at straight cis guys involving all the ways we learned to transcend being dirtbag guys in our 20s. Get it on Patreon here: https://www.patreon.com/posts/61172131

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This week, Francis speaks with writer Jonathan M. Katz (@KatzOnEarth) about his new book “Gangsters of Capitalism: Smedley Butler, the Marines, and the Making and Breaking of America's Empire.” We learn about Butler’s participation in the Spanish-American War (and in just about every other early-20th century imperial conflict), his exposure of an attempted fascist coup, and his role in subjugating Haiti. In this book, Katz follows in Butler’s footsteps across Central America piecing together the history of the man, the war zones, and the American politics driving them forward.

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This week's bonus features Nate and Francis discussing a variety of things: the 1990 film Ghost and why the hell demons terrified Nate as a small child, his discomfort around bees, Francis's tips on keeping mice out of your house, and a segment of relationship advice directed at straight cis guys involving all the ways we learned to transcend being dirtbag guys in our 20s. Get it on Patreon here: https://www.patreon.com/posts/61172131

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This week, Francis speaks with Task and Purpose reporter Haley Britzky about the water pollution crisis at Joint Base Pearl Harbor in Hawai’i, the ways in which the Navy effectively told its service members and dependents to pound sand, and how the Army surprised everyone by… communicating more than once. Read Haley’s article here: https://taskandpurpose.com/news/navy-investigating-hawaii-fuel-leak-may/

The bonus this week is the Zoo Crew’s year in review for 2021. Well, this isn't really a review of the entire year, so much as it's a review of some military-centric stories that delighted and entertained us by being very, very dumb. Get it on Patreon here: https://www.patreon.com/posts/60994304

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DadChat ends at 15:45! This week, Nate and Francis discuss recent news that a group of Navy SEALs have filed an injunction to get religious exemptions from the DOD’s vaccine mandate (which we argue is funny and also a very bad thing to entertain). In order to familiarize everyone with the topic at hand, we also read the original Navy SEAL Copypasta (for subject matter awareness). For this week’s bonus, Francis subjects Carey and Joe to two current military news stories: 1. he got a copy of the manifesto that disgruntled National Guard troops on the border (who listen to Hell of a Way) wrote about their terrible chain of command, and 2. he reads the story of the sailor accused of setting the USS Bonhomme Richard on fire, for which there is apparently very little actual evidence. Get it on Patreon here: https://www.patreon.com/posts/60700753 *SPECIAL ANNOUNCEMENT* We now have a storefront to sell the patches, buttons, and magnets that we also give out as flair for our $10 tier. Buy some sweet gear here: https://www.hellofawaytodie.com/shop We have a YouTube channel now -- subscribe here and get sweet videos from us in which we yell in our cars like true veterans: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwlHZpNTz-h6aTeQiJrEDKw You can follow the show on Twitter here: @HellOfAWay Follow Nate here: @inthesedeserts Follow Francis here: @ArmyStrang

This is an unlocked bonus from earlier this year--we'll return with a new episode next week. Joe and Shocks join Francis to discuss historical instances of draft dodging that involve fleeing into the woods of Alaska, fleeing to Germany, and much more.

If you want more bonus episodes, get them on our Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/Hellofawaytodie

*SPECIAL ANNOUNCEMENT* We now have a storefront to sell the patches, buttons, and magnets that we also give out as flair for our $10 tier. Buy some sweet gear here: https://www.hellofawaytodie.com/shop

We have a YouTube channel now -- subscribe here and get sweet videos from us in which we yell in our cars like true veterans: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwlHZpNTz-h6aTeQiJrEDKw

You can follow the show on Twitter here: @HellOfAWay Follow Nate here: @inthesedeserts Follow Francis here: @ArmyStrang

CONTENT WARNING: Nate discusses having witnessed a situation involving a lot of severe child neglect, which some listeners might find distressing. This segment runs from 9:10 to 15:02.

This week, it’s a holiday-themed DadChat in which Nate and Francis discuss coffee mostly, and intensely difficult Army schools that are difficult for no reason, and what happens if you refuse to jump out of an airplane, and much more.

In case you missed the bonus, it’s a cross-post from Trashfuture's Britainology series, in which Nate, Francis, and Joe force Milo to learn about the Midwest. Now it's the good-natured Midwestern oafs in the driver's seat, and we explain the name of the region itself, why ICP had such appeal to our generation, and why literally everyone has a driving-while-intoxicated story involving being thrown out of someone's house. Get it on Patreon here: https://www.patreon.com/posts/59837759

*SPECIAL ANNOUNCEMENT* We now have a storefront to sell the patches, buttons, and magnets that we also give out as flair for our $10 tier. Buy some sweet gear here: https://www.patreon.com/posts/58626568 

https://www.hellofawaytodie.com/shop

We have a YouTube channel now -- subscribe here and get sweet videos from us in which we yell in our cars like true veterans: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwlHZpNTz-h6aTeQiJrEDKw

You can follow the show on Twitter here: @HellOfAWay

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This week, Francis speaks with Army Times investigative reporter Davis Winkie (@davis_winkie) about his recent story covering troop deployments at the US-Mexico border and the spate of incidents–to include deaths, serious injuries, and enormous amounts of UCMJ–and the fact that soldiers and officers at every echelon are reaching out with one very important statement: they shouldn’t be there.

Read Davis’ story here: https://www.armytimes.com/news/your-army/2021/12/08/death-drugs-and-a-disbanded-unit-how-the-guards-mexico-border-mission-fell-apart/

And if you want to contact Davis, his details are as follows: [email protected] and [email protected]

For this week’s bonus, it’s a cross-post from Trashfuture's Britainology series, in which Nate, Francis, and Joe force Milo to learn about the Midwest. Now it's the good-natured Midwestern oafs in the driver's seat, and we explain the name of the region itself, why ICP had such appeal to our generation, and why literally everyone has a driving-while-intoxicated story involving being thrown out of someone's house. Get it on Patreon here: https://www.patreon.com/posts/59837759

*SPECIAL ANNOUNCEMENT* We now have a storefront to sell the patches, buttons, and magnets that we also give out as flair for our $10 tier. Buy some sweet gear here: https://www.patreon.com/posts/58626568 

https://www.hellofawaytodie.com/shop

We have a YouTube channel now -- subscribe here and get sweet videos from us in which we yell in our cars like true veterans: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwlHZpNTz-h6aTeQiJrEDKw

You can follow the show on Twitter here: @HellOfAWay

Follow Nate here: @inthesedeserts

Follow Francis here: @ArmyStrang

This week, Francis speaks with farmer and legendary poster Eric Peacock (@UweBollocks) about his experience as an organic farmer in northwest Ohio, what he grows in his own garden, the ethical dilemma you face when confronting the intelligence of pigs, and so much more.

Check out Eric’s podcast Soundtracker (@soundtracker_) here: https://feeds.buzzsprout.com/1840875.rss

For this week’s bonus: there aren't a whole lot of new military comedies being made these days (we blame Bin Laden), but in the early '80s there was STRIPES, a film in which Bill Murray and John Candy join the Army. Joe had never seen this, and Francis and Shocks couldn't resist forcing him to watch a (surprisingly accurate) movie about how the Army sucks. Get it on Patreon here: https://www.patreon.com/posts/59485622

*SPECIAL ANNOUNCEMENT* We now have a storefront to sell the patches, buttons, and magnets that we also give out as flair for our $10 tier. Buy some sweet gear here: https://www.patreon.com/posts/58626568 

https://www.hellofawaytodie.com/shop

We have a YouTube channel now -- subscribe here and get sweet videos from us in which we yell in our cars like true veterans: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwlHZpNTz-h6aTeQiJrEDKw

You can follow the show on Twitter here: @HellOfAWay

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Follow Francis here: @ArmyStrang

This week, Nate and Francis discuss the fact that the Department of Defense has zero time for service members refusing to get vaccinated, even if they’re the commanding general of the Oklahoma National Guard, and we ponder why things have gotten to this point. We also talk about a British F35 falling off an aircraft carrier (which you can see here: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/f35-crash-queen-elizabeth-raf-b1966487.html)

For the bonus, Francis takes Carey and Joe down a rabbit hole of Catholic history in their discussion of the Pornocracy, a period in which the papacy was not controlled by the Catholic church but rather by Roman elites. It has a funny name and is a story replete with some of the weirdest guys you'll ever encounter. Get it on Patreon here: https://www.patreon.com/posts/59060581

*SPECIAL ANNOUNCEMENT* We now have a storefront to sell the patches, buttons, and magnets that we also give out as flair for our $10 tier. Buy some sweet gear here: https://www.patreon.com/posts/58626568 

https://www.hellofawaytodie.com/shop

We have a YouTube channel now -- subscribe here and get sweet videos from us in which we yell in our cars like true veterans: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwlHZpNTz-h6aTeQiJrEDKw

You can follow the show on Twitter here: @HellOfAWay

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Follow Francis here: @ArmyStrang

A bit of a hybrid DadChat / Thanksgiving themed episode in which we discuss our various military Thanksgiving experiences, Francis seeing the band Lit while in Kuwait somehow, reminiscences of the BDU era, and much more. Happy Thanksgiving, and hope you enjoy!

For this week’s bonus, Francis made Joe and Carey watch the 1970 film M*A*S*H*, not the series but the film itself, and react to all of the ways in which it captures aspects of the military that they recognize...and the ways in which it has not aged well. Get it on Patreon here: https://www.patreon.com/posts/58864653

*SPECIAL ANNOUNCEMENT* We now have a storefront to sell the patches, buttons, and magnets that we also give out as flair for our $10 tier. Buy some sweet gear here: https://www.patreon.com/posts/58626568 

https://www.hellofawaytodie.com/shop

We have a YouTube channel now -- subscribe here and get sweet videos from us in which we yell in our cars like true veterans: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwlHZpNTz-h6aTeQiJrEDKw

You can follow the show on Twitter here: @HellOfAWay

Follow Nate here: @inthesedeserts

Follow Francis here: @ArmyStrang

DadChat ends at 14:13!

This week, we examine a recent story about an Army Colonel getting a formal reprimand for stealing a pair of $45 sneakers at a PX in Kuwait? Which is something that legitimately took place, we guess (you can read the story here: https://www.armytimes.com/news/your-army/2021/11/16/colonel-punished-for-shoplifting-shoes-at-kuwait-px/). We also discuss weird crimes we’ve seen people commit in uniform, the stuff about MASH that hasn’t aged well, the career of Christopher Meloni, and much more.

For this week’s bonus, We're back with our Zoomer correspondent Kevin Frint (@ItsAll_Bullshit) to discuss 100 Deadly Skills, the world's most family-court book about how to stalk your ex and, uh, create plastic from milk somehow. Get it on Patreon here: 

*SPECIAL ANNOUNCEMENT* We now have a storefront to sell the patches, buttons, and magnets that we also give out as flair for our $10 tier. Buy some sweet gear here: https://www.patreon.com/posts/58626568 

https://www.hellofawaytodie.com/shop

We have a YouTube channel now -- subscribe here and get sweet videos from us in which we yell in our cars like true veterans: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwlHZpNTz-h6aTeQiJrEDKw

You can follow the show on Twitter here: @HellOfAWay

Follow Nate here: @inthesedeserts

Follow Francis here: @ArmyStrang

We get to the point at 17:51!

This week, we discuss adventures in soundproofing, how to de-Ba’ath-ify yourself from the effects of the military making you react emotionally, Veterans’ Day, the 5-year anniversary of this podcast, and much more. However, we also focus specifically on a story about a metallurgist in Tacoma who faked the test results of decades’ worth of Navy metal castings for submarines because she thought the test standards were ‘stupid.’ It’s the most relatable thing we’ve ever heard--read the story here: https://www.military.com/daily-news/2021/11/09/metallurgist-admits-faking-steel-test-results-navy-subs.html

For week’s bonus, Francis speaks with Task and Purpose reporter Hayley Britzky (@halbritz) about brigades in the 82nd Airborne trying out this new thing called 'exercise science' and 'nutrition science' and 'perhaps not destroying soldiers' bodies with terrible exercise routines that have been out of date for 40 years.' Get it on Patreon here: https://www.patreon.com/posts/58342578

*SPECIAL ANNOUNCEMENT* We now have a storefront to sell the patches, buttons, and magnets that we also give out as flair for our $10 tier. Buy some sweet gear here: 

https://www.hellofawaytodie.com/shop

We have a YouTube channel now -- subscribe here and get sweet videos from us in which we yell in our cars like true veterans: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwlHZpNTz-h6aTeQiJrEDKw

You can follow the show on Twitter here: @HellOfAWay

Follow Nate here: @inthesedeserts

Follow Francis here: @ArmyStrang

We get to the point at 23:04!

This week, we’re discussing horror stories of Army physical training, inspired by this article (https://taskandpurpose.com/news/army-holistic-health-fitness-82nd-airborne/) in which the Army apparently confronts the fact that its previous approaches to physical training completely wreck people’s bodies. Hope you enjoy!