Wicked Words – A True Crime Talk Show with Kate Winkler Dawson

I talk a lot about how history repeats itself. This story, unfortunately, feels like it can happen today even though it’s actually 75 years old. Author Ellen Green wrote a book called: Murder in the Neighborhood: The true story of America’s first recorded mass shooting. We’ll be in 1949 East Camden, New Jersey and Green tries to answer: why the shooter did it and if anyone could have stopped him.  

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Self-made millionaire Lance Herndon was one of Atlanta’s elite in 1996 when he was murdered in his home. Police had a host of suspects, and they soon realized how complicated Lance’s life was. Author Ron Stodghill unravels the story in his book: Redbone: Money, Malice, and Murder in Atlanta.  

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One of the most famous crimes in American history was the murder of 14-year-old Bobby Frank. Two young men, Nathan Leopold and Richard Loeb, wanted to plan the perfect murder. And they didn’t. Author Hal Higdon wrote THE book on this case, called Leopold and Loeb: The Crime of the Century. 

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Here's our story this week: in the summer of 1988, 16-year-old Shane Stewart and 18-year-old Sally McNelly went missing in the West Texas town of San Angelo. After their remains were found, the mystery began. Texas Monthly reporters Karen Jacobs and Rob D’Amico pick up the cold case of two murders that have haunted their family, their friends, and generations of investigators. I talked with them about their podcast, Shane and Sally. 

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A murdered teenage girl. A suspicious, affluent family. And a lot of sticky social situations. They’re all in our story, which is set in nineteenth century London. Who killed 16-year-old Jane Maria Clouson? Author Paul Thomas Murphy details it in his book: Pretty Jane and the Viper of Kidbrooke Lane: A True Story of Victorian Law and Disorder: The Unsolved Murder that Shocked Victorian England. 

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At the height of the Great Depression, an oil mogul from LA decided to escape society with his mistress to create their own utopia on a faraway land. The problems started with other people following them there. My friend, Abbott Kahler, is my guest today. She used to write under the name: Karen Abbott. Abbott tells me the story at the center of her book: Eden Undone A True Story of Sex, Murder, and Utopia at the Dawn of World War II. 

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Hurricane Katrina devastated New Orleans in 2005. Four years later, a young prosecutor in the Justice Department was drawn into examining a mysterious death after the storm. Henry Glover was found dead in a burned-out car two weeks after Katrina. And who he was last seen with became the center of controversy and reform. Jared Fishman tells me the story from his book: Fire on the Levee.  

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I’ve said this many times: unsolved cases frustrate me. I need a solution, or a conclusion. But cold cases are so important: and my next guest wants to talk about missing women…several that are more than 100 years old. And she can use our help. Author Kathleen Brunelle tells me about her book called: She’s Gone: Five Mysterious Twentieth- Century Cold Cases.  

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For this episode of Wicked Words, we travel to India, where some of the world’s most complicated, most compelling true crime stories come from. This story is one of those. It’s about a female grifter, turned killer, who seduced men for money, but murdered one…out of fear. The book we’re talking about is called Swipe Right to Kill. The author is Anirban Bhattacharyya.  

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Filmmaker Colin Archdeacon had an unusual relationship with convicted killer named Grant Amato in Florida. Amato murdered his parents and his brother in 2018. And the media blamed his obsession with a cam model. But Archdeacon found out that Amato had very different motive. Let’s find out more about the three part series, Ctrl+Alt+Desire on Paramount +.   

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This is one of the most shocking unsolved missing-child cases in the world. A 7-year-old boy named Kyron Horman went missing in 2010 in Portland, Oregon and he’s never been found. The last person to see him was his stepmother. Author Rebecca Morris details Kyron’s story and the mystery of his disappearance in her book, Boy Missing: The Search for Kyron Horman.

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I love a good murder story set in the South and this is an intense one. It centers on a vicious murder in a crumbling Kentucky mansion and a killer who managed to cover it up for months. Author David Domine writes about it in his book: A Dark Room in Glitter Ball City: Murder, Secrets, and Scandal in Old Louisville. 

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We’re now digging into a real Texas story. We’re talking about a brazen jewel thief in the 1960s who burgled some of the wealthiest homes in Dallas. But he was an odd thief. Sometimes he took just one diamond earring, probably because he knew it would ruin the set. He would put down a towel so he wouldn’t sully an expensive chair by stepping on it. Who was this jewel thief? Author Rena Pederson unfurls the story in her book, The King of Diamonds: The Search for the Elusive Texas Jewel Thief. 

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This next story needs a trigger warning: it’s about the grooming and the sexual assault of children. But it was an important case in Australia and author Hedley Thomas tells it well. He details the murder case of Chris Dawson in his book The Teacher’s Pet. It was based on Henley’s record-breaking podcast that eventually attracted the attention of the Australian government.   

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In the summer of 1967, a family of nine was murdered in their home by a stranger in rural Canada. It was one of the worse random mass murders in the country’s history. There’s a podcast that covers the whole story called “The Shell Lake Massacre.” The host, Brittany Caffet, grew up not far from Shell Lake. And she has a very personal connection to the story…she’s close to one of the survivors.  

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A murder conspiracy in China is at the center of a fascinating true crime story involving politics, greed and deception. There are no heroes in this book, but boy, what a drama. Author Wenguang Huang tells me about his fantastic book, A Death in the Lucky Holiday Hotel: Murder, Money, and an Epic Power Struggle in China. 

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I had never heard of the tragic case of former Vaudeville star Vivian Gordon in 1930s New York. She had threatened some of the city’s most powerful men and at least one of them wanted her dead. Her murder in 1931 caused the downfall of the mayor of New York City. Author Michael Wolraich wrote a book about Gordon and her death called: The Bishop and the Butterfly Murder, Politics, and the End of the Jazz Age. 

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I’ve listened to many versions of the story of the Murdaugh dynasty and I’m always interested in hearing new, fresh details. Well, author and podcast host Mandy Matney didn’t disappoint with her book, Blood on Their Hands: Murder, Corruption, and the Fall of the Murdaugh Dynasty. She told me details that I’ve never heard before after she talked with countless locals in the low country of South Carolina. 

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One of the most interesting aspects of true crime is how we’re able to explore cultures and societies that are unfamiliar to us. That was the case for me when I talked with author Gregg Olsen about his book, The Amish Wife. It’s about a killer in the Amish community in Pennsylvania. There are many twists and turns in this story, I promise.  

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Several years ago, Patricia Cornwell wrote a book about Jack the Ripper called, Portrait of a Killer: Jack the Ripper, Case Closed.  This book presents Patricia’s opinion on his identity based on her extensive research. She believes that Jack the Ripper was a German-British artist named Walter Sickert. A controversial opinion, according to some Ripperologists. In this episode with the author, you’ll hear why. 

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Kate Winkler Dawson's true crime talk show Wicked Words is back! On each new episode of Wicked Words, Kate interviews journalists, podcasters and authors about their fascinating behind-the-scenes stories from their investigations into the world of true crime. 

On Wicked Words, Kate talks to prolific true crime author Patricia Cornwell, award-winning journalist and podcast host Mandy Matney and many more. These are the stories behind the stories. 

New episodes are available every Monday.  

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Lizzie Borden is acquitted but that section of Fall River isn’t free from its murderous past. Less than a century later, the nearby Catholic church is the focus of a mystery and a murder as Satanic Panic grips the United States. How will this end? 

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Bertha Manchester and another familiar name are whispered throughout Fall River in connection to Lizzie Borden’s upcoming trial. Eliza Borden and her family's history will also come into play during the trial.

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Decades after the death of Eliza Borden, someone is murdered with an ax. Not Lizzie Borden’s parents, but an innocent farm girl. How is she connected to Lizzie Borden’s case? 

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In 1848 Fall River, Eliza Borden clearly needs help. She is struggling with depression and her husband, Lawdwick appears to be of little help. This will not end well. 

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On July 2, 1843, a deadly fire ripped through that section of Fall River, nearly destroying a large portion of the city, including the house next door to Lizzie Borden’s future home. Five years later in that house, the Borden family experiences continued tragedy when Lizzie Borden’s great aunt, Eliza Hathaway Darling Borden, appears to have severe post-partum depression. 

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There is a section of Fall River, Massachusetts spanning just two blocks, where several media-grabbing tragedies occurred over a century. These were not simple domestic disputes or deadly bank robberies, they were deaths that seemed so out of the norm that perhaps they were triggered by something other-worldly. 

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This is “A Blessing and a Curse,” the twelfth season of Tenfold More Wicked on Exactly Right. This season is very different from what we’ve done before. It isn’t just about one crime or one tragedy within one family…it’s about a section of a city that has seen many atrocities over the years.   

It’s also about one family with many connections, reaching back to our last season and the Rebecca Briggs Cornell story. Join us as we investigate the misfortunes that have befallen this infamous town for more than 150 years.

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Thomas Cornell Junior is arrested and put on trial for his mother’s murder. Rebecca’s spirit, which visited her brother, was a central witness. Would Thomas be wrongfully convicted? Would he get away with murder? Or was he really guilty? 

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As investigators interview more witnesses, someone comes forward and recalls a disturbing conversation with Rebecca Briggs Cornell. She feared her son, but she was also severely depressed. Had she even contemplated suicide? 

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Rebecca Briggs Cornell’s body is reexamined and something odd is found. Her son, Thomas, is interrogated for her murder if there was one. Was there evidence to prove the case against him in 1673? Is there now? Thomas Cornell Junior might be guilty, it might have been an accident and there may be other possibilities. 

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Thomas and his family make a terrible discovery in his mother’s room one night in February of 1673. Rebecca Briggs Cornell led a respectable life only to have it end in tragedy. She’s buried, but she’s not gone. One night, Rebecca’s brother falls asleep and receives a supernatural visitor.

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Rebecca Briggs Cornell really dislikes her son’s new wife Sarah Earle. Rebecca is concerned that his daughter-in-law is violent. Her son, Thomas, neglects her and he clearly wants to take over the property, striking fear in Rebecca.

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It’s 1673 in Portsmouth, Rhode Island. Rebecca Briggs Cornell and her husband Thomas are the town’s founders and have already survived a raft of trauma. They’ve seen their closest friend murdered in New York and were banished from Boston for their religious beliefs. Now they’re concerned about the safety of their family. When Thomas dies, their son Thomas Junior takes over the family property.

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This is “Fire and Brimstone,” the eleventh season of TENFOLD MORE WICKED, our oldest story yet. This time we’re traveling to colonial Rhode Island in 1673. This story came from a longtime Tenfold More Wicked listener and distant relative of the victim. Believe it or not, this case is still local lore for residents of the area.

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John Chiswell is found dead in his home. Was it suicide, murder, or even an accident? The middle and lower classes of Williamsburg don’t believe he’s really dead. Are they right? Will Robert Routledge’s friend ever see justice for his death?

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John Chiswell’s well-connected friends have saved him from a public jail, but they might not be able to save him from the noose. As his murder trial approaches, Chiswell goes quiet and that’s not good. 

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John Chiswell holds a bloody sword, a blade he pulled from the body of Robert Routledge, a man he once considered his friend. But was it murder or self-defense? Luckily for John Chiswell…he has some very powerful friends.  

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One morning in June, John Chiswell visits a favorite tavern, only to be confronted by a drunk, abusive merchant. At least that was Chiswell’s version of events. So he picked up a sharp sword…and nothing good can come of that. 

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John Chiswell’s powerful son-in-law, John Robinson is gravely sick. Robinson is Chiswell’s most important business partners. They’re both keeping secrets and, if Robinson dies, Chiswell’s secret will be uncovered. 

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Colonel John Chiswell is one of Colonial Williamsburg’s most respected men. He married into a famous family and his daughter married one of the most powerful people in Virginia. But Chiswell’s life was a house of cards…and by 1766, it was teetering. 

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“Entitled” is the tenth season of Tenfold More Wicked. It’s a historical true crime story that meets a political scandal in the colony of Virginia, ten years before the Revolutionary War. “Entitled” is about the deaths of three men in the 18th century, how they changed history and about protecting the wealthy and the powerful. 

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This episode isn’t about a typical true crime story. There’s no murder, but there doesn’t need to be to make it a wild story. This is about manipulation, tragedy…and obsession. Lots of obsession. Author Michael Finkel documented all of it in his book: The Art Thief.  

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One of my most favorite blogs is one called Murder by Gaslight. It focuses on historical true crime. The writer behind it is Robert Wilhelm and he’s also a nonfiction author. He tells us the story of Pearl Bryan from his book, So Far From Home.

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A writer’s stepfather is a researcher in a prison when he meets a prisoner---and they’ll change each other’s lives forever. This is a tragic true crime tale about regret…lots of regret. Could one decision have saved the life of a police officer? Author Lisa Belkin tells us her very personal story from her book: Genealogy of a Murder: Four Generations, Three Families, One Fateful Night.

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In the late ‘60s, a serial killer stalked women in New England. His name was Tony Costa. He was unusual because he spent a lot of time drawing in his victims. We’ve heard this story from a woman who Costa babysat, but this is a different account. Journalist Casey Sherman tells the story from his book, Helltown: The Untold Story of a Serial Killer on Cape Cod.

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I’ve been fascinated with the story of Jesse Pomeroy in 1870s Boston. He’s the boy who murdered kids for quite a while before he was caught. What does this story tell us about crime today? Author Roseanne Montillo talks about her book, The Wilderness of Ruin: A Tale of Madness, Fire, and the Hunt for America's Youngest Serial Killer.  

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By now, most of you know the story of the Delphi murders. Actually, this wasn’t a case that I had kept up with. So that’s why this episode is interesting for me. My guest is Nic Edwards—he’s the host of the True Crime Garage podcast. He’s also an author. Nic wrote a book about the murders of Libby and Abby in 2017 called The Delphi Murders: The Quest To Find ‘The Man On The Bridge.’ He told me a lot of things about the case that I didn’t know. 

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I love 1920s Hollywood…it was full of glitz, glamour, controversy and murder. William J. Mann’s wonderful book: Tinseltown: Murder, Morphine, and Madness at the Dawn of Hollywood details the story of a mysterious, unsolved murder of film director William Desmond Taylor. Did Mann solve Taylor’s murder, 100 years later? Maybe. 

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Most of us know this, but women are just as capable of killing as men are. Yet most true crime stories cover men killing women, which makes sense, considering the statistics. Author Jennifer Wright wrote a book called She Kills Me. She did research on dozens of stories, where women are the killers. And now she tells us why. 

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Most of us know the story about serial killer John Wayne Gacy. I frankly don’t want to know more about Gacy. But I do want to hear about his victims. So I had a great discussion with author David Nelson, who focuses on the boys who were Gacy’s victims in his book, Boys Enter the House: The Victims of John Wayne Gacy and the Lives They Left Behind.  

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In February of 1992, a 22 year old walked into a police station in Florida and confessed that he’d shot and killed his parents. He claimed that he had been possessed by the devil. He was eventually diagnosed with schizophrenia and ruled “not criminally responsible” for the murders on grounds of insanity. But after the trial, where do the "criminally insane” end up? Nonfiction author and psychoanalyst Mikita Brottman unravels the story at the center of her book Couple Found Slain. 

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What would it be like to interview a serial killer? New York Times best-selling author Jillian Lauren knows. Her haunting account of confronting Samuel Little is detailed in her book Behold the Monster. In our chat, Jillian explains how she convinced Little to tell her where one unknown victim was buried.  

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Best-selling author Bryan Burrough returns to his small-town Texas roots in the podcast, by Texas Monthly, called “Stephenville.” This season he explores a murder case that went cold for nearly two decades. To tell this amazing story, Bryan is armed with the newly discovered diary of the killer himself.  

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The story of one of America’s youngest death row inmates is tragic and complicated. How did a young woman in 1980s Indiana end up in prison? Alex Mar unfolds her incredible book, Seventy Times Seven: A True Story of Murder and Mercy. It’s a journey about racism, anger, and forgiveness.  

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Maurice Chammah hosts a podcast called “Smoke Screen: Just Say You’re Sorry.” It tells the story of a brutal murder of a woman who was disparaged by the police to secure a suspect. And that's just the beginning of the questionable techniques used by investigators, as well as the Texas Rangers.  

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One of the most incredible stories in true crime is the tale of Arthur Conan Doyle and how he helped free a man…who was innocent of murder. Author Margalit Fox offers us a deep dive into the characters in her book, Conan Doyle for the Defense.  

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You can’t beat a story about an eighteenth-century mutiny and survival and then conflicting accounts. Author David Grann has written about the epic, harrowing saga of a ship and its crew in a book called The Wager: A Tale of Shipwreck, Mutiny and Murder. 

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Most of you have probably heard the story of the Hart family, the couple that drove a car off a cliff with all of their adopted children inside. Our guest Roxanna Asgarian unfolds the story with details that we’ve never heard before, including an investigation into the child welfare system. 

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One of the most studied murder trials in recent history is the case of Kathleen Peterson, which was featured in the TV series, The Staircase. Author Tiddy Smith recounts the story in his book Death by Talons and focuses on the most controversial part of the case…the owl theory. 

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A wealthy man is poisoned in 1830s England, and there are many suspects, including several heirs. Would coffee grounds prove to be crucial evidence in a murder case that helped change forensics? Sandra Hempel in her book, The Inheritor’s Powder, tells us the story of a determined chemist who shifted the outcome of a historic case. 

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A man is found dead from a gunshot wound in Washington DC in 1923. He’s an aide and a confidante to a powerful politician, the attorney general of the United States. Was his death a murder or a suicide? Author Nathan Masters tells us the story at the center of his book: Crooked.  

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Have you ever heard of the Rice Chest Prince? It’s a real story from Korean history, and it’s a fascinating look at the dynamic between a king and his son, and how it turned so tragic. Author June Hur explores her culture in her novel, The Red Palace, as she uses the Prince’s story for inspiration. 

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The brutal murder of a 3-year-old shocked Victorian England not only because of how it happened, but because of who the police suspected. Could one of Britain’s most famous detectives solve the case? Author Kate Summerscale tells us the story at the center of her book, The Suspicions of Mr. Whicher. 

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When Dr. Benjamin Gilmer takes over a small clinic in North Carolina, he was told that he is actually the second Dr. Gilmer to practice there. The first “Dr. Gilmer” had murdered his father in 2004. The book: The Other Dr. Gilmer details the lives of both Dr. Gilmers and how their lives intersected.    

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This story centers on a terrible crime in 1999 rural Oklahoma. Two parents were murdered and two teenaged girls in the same trailer went missing. Author Jax Miller details the story in her book, Hell in the Heartland.  

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One of the most controversial tools used by investigators is the lie detector. It’s used often to intimidate suspects and sometimes it’s responsible for confessions, real and false. Author Amit Katwala explains how the lie detector’s origin is grounded in deception, abuse, and of course murder. 

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In some parts of the world, one of the most dangerous jobs you can have is being a journalist. Author Katherine Corcoran writes about a ground-breaking reporter who risked her life to expose corruption in Mexico… and then she was murdered.  

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In 1905, many people seemed to have a reason to kill one of the richest women in America and Stanford University’s co-founder, Jane Stanford. Author and Stanford Professor Dr. Richard White tells us about the wealthy eccentric’s troubled legacy and mysterious death.   

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When a powerful businessman in Alaska is murdered in his bed in 1953, the police believe that it might have been a break-in gone wrong. But as details about his personal life made headlines, investigators turned to several new suspects. Author James T. Bartlett discusses the potential motives at the center of this story.  

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Liliana Rivera Garza lived in Mexico and journaled everything about her life until she was murdered. Her sister, author Cristina Rivera Garza, looked for clues inside Liliana’s diaries and letters. Determined to figure out what happened, Garza talks about her search for her sister’s killer.   

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In the 1840s, an Irish family lived in constant turmoil after starting a feud with their entire town in Canada. When tensions rose in the town, the family’s lives were put at risk. Author John Little tells the story about the Black Donnelly tragedy. 

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How well do you know your neighbor? Author Jamie Gehring discusses how for decades she and her family had no idea they were living right next-door to the Unabomber who was secretly building explosives in his cabin. 

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In the mid-1980s Stella Nickell was suspected of murdering her husband using headache pills laced with poison. Author Gregg Olsen describes the panic that ensued when someone else also died from taking pills. But were the two deaths connected? 

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Kate Winkler Dawson's true crime talk show Tenfold More Wicked Presents: Wicked Words is back for its third season. On each new episode of Wicked Words, Kate interviews journalists, podcasters and authors about their fascinating behind-the-scenes stories from their investigations in the world of true crime. These are the stories behind the stories. 

In season three, Kate interviews an author who discovers that the haunting recluse living next door is Ted Kaczynski, the Unabomber, has a conversation with the AP Mexico bureau chief who investigates the silencing of the free press in that country, dives deep with an author who unravels the truth behind the birth of the polygraph and much more.

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On our final episode, John Tawell is facing the noose for murder. His wife, Sarah Appleby, seems to be standing by his side. Will he die on the gallows? And what will happen to Sarah Hart’s children?   

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John Tawell, dressed as a Quaker, rushed to the train station in London after leaving Sarah Hart, dying, on the floor of her cottage. As he sits on the train heading to Paddington Station, he doesn’t notice those strange lines running alongside the tracks. They would soon become very important.  

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In 1845, John Tawell is frantic because the mother of two of his children is demanding more child support. He leaves London on New Year’s Day with a choice in his pockets: in one was money, in the other was a bottle of deadly prussic acid. What will happen to Sarah Hart that cold January night? 

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A lot has happened to John Tawell over the past twenty years. His wife has died and her nurse is now his mistress. Sarah Hart wants more from John Tawell, the father of her two kids. When Tawell marries another woman, Sarah Appleby, Sarah Hart takes a stand. And now, her life might be in danger.   

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John Tawell is caught as a forger, but the Quakers convince the Crown to send him to a penal colony in Australia. He seems like a dedicated family man—he sent for them in England. And Tawell became a huge success in Australia, but he was still duplicitous. And soon, he would make a terrible decision. 

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In 1814, John Tawell seems to have a wonderful life. He’s a husband, a businessman and a devout Quaker in England. But Tawell can’t seem to stay out of trouble…and he’s been caught in a crime that could result in his execution. And it’s not murder (yet). Will the Quakers save him?    

Written, researched, and hosted by Kate Winkler Dawson/ producers Jason Wehling, Alexis Amorosi, and Natalie Rinn/ additional research by Meg Edwards/sound designer Eric Friend/composer Curtis Heath 

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The ninth season of Tenfold More Wicked is called “The Wolf Among Us.”

It’s a historical true crime story about a man who used his religion to cloak his sinister side, and the two women in his life who both suffered because of it. It’s also about a brand-new machine that helped catch a killer. 

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Annie Crawford goes on trial for murdering her sister, Elise. The police hope to find more evidence by exhuming the bodies of the other family members. The media analyze everything about Annie, especially her looks. Will an all-male jury convict her of poisoning her sister?  

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Elise Crawford is dying in her aunt and uncle’s home in New Orleans. Aunt Mary is alarmed by Annie’s calmness. Elise and Annie are both keeping secrets. And soon, the police in New Orleans will learn about everything. 

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Mary Agnes Crawford and her parents Emma and Walter are now dead. Annie and her surviving sisters move in with their Aunt Mary; unfortunately, Annie and Aunt Mary don’t get along at all. And when yet another family member becomes ill…Annie’s little sister becomes suspicious because Annie is the main beneficiary in the life insurance policies. 

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Mary Agnes Crawford and her father Walter are dead within weeks of each other; still, doctors offer diagnoses that aren't unusual for the time. How could no one suspect that there was something happening in the Crawford family home? And then weeks after Walter dies, his wife, Emma, begins to complain of stomach pains. This all feels very familiar.   

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Mary Agnes Crawford lays dying in her family’s home on Chestnut Street in New Orleans. The doctor who treats her is puzzled and offers a surprising diagnosis. As Annie tends to the others in their family over the coming weeks, her father Walter Crawford begins to complain about an upset stomach. Is there something happening to the Crawford family? Or are they just unlucky?  

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In 1910 New Orleans, Annie Crawford is the modest sister of three very vibrant young women. While they stroll the cobblestone streets wearing fashionable clothing, Annie is demurer. She might have been jealous; she might have been insecure…or perhaps she didn’t care. But when one of her sisters becomes gravely ill, Annie doesn’t seem concerned. Why?  

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The eighth season of Tenfold More Wicked is called “The Morphine Murderess.” 

It’s a historical true crime story about a quiet, meek woman who would never have been considered a murder suspect…until several members of her family turned up dead. In early 1900s New Orleans, a city struggling with violent crime, even these deaths made huge headlines. This story is about a motive as mysterious as the woman accused of murder. Why did four members of the Crawford family die? Do you believe in coincidences? 

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On the last episode of this season, Eugene Burt faces a trial for murdering his family. His loyal brothers might be able to save him, but does Burt want to be saved?   

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Eugene Burt’s brothers try to sort out why he would kill his wife and, especially, why he would kill his two little girls. While investigators search for the murderer, the Powers family bury his victims. And we try to sort out why all of this happened.   

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Investigators in 1896 Austin, Texas make a horrific discovery in Eugene Burt’s basement. It’s a sad ending for a once happy family. But now Burt’s on the run and his brothers are panicked. Will the police track down a murderer who is falling apart?  

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Eugene Burt’s life seems to be falling apart in the summer of 1896. He’s under stress because his beloved brothers—his financial backers—begin to turn on him. His wife, Annie, is having frightening dreams. And Eugene Burt is about to make a terrible decision. Who would become his victims?  

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In 1884 and 1885, a series of terrible murders all points to one serial killer, dubbed the Servant Girl Annihilator. Eugene Burt, then a teenager, accompanies his father, the city physician, to one of the crime scenes—and he makes a terrible discovery. Twelve years later, Burt is beginning to act erratically after his father dies.   

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Eugene Burt is a family man, the father of two little girls and the husband of a lovely woman, Anna Powers. But Burt has a past peppered with violence, some that he caused, some that he witnessed when, as a teen, his father took him to crime scenes. Would his past affect his future actions?  

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The seventh season of Tenfold More Wicked is called “The Annihilator.” It’s a historical true crime story that takes place in late 1800s Austin, Texas. This is a case about a man with a troubled past, someone who witnessed the aftermath left by a notorious serial killer. But did seeing that crime scene cause him to kill in virtually the same way, twelve years later?  

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Author Mark Pinsky details the complicated story of a double murder...the killing of a philanthropic couple in Montgomery, Alabama. Their son was the main suspect, but was he being controlled by someone else?  

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Father and daughter writers Blaine Pardoe and Victoria Hester investigated the unsolved murders of women in the early 1970s in the nation’s capital. Who was the main suspect? Blaine and Victoria have someone in mind... 

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The Bloody Benders were a family of serial killers in the 1800s that murdered people who visited their home in rural Kansas. Author Susan Jonusas offers us a compelling profile of four mysterious killers who terrified America in the 19th century.  

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Award-winning journalist Vivian Ho exposes a shattering true-crime story, shedding light on America's new lost generation and investigating two murders that are connected to a troubled trio. 

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Author Patricia Pearson reunited with her high school boyfriend to investigate the murder of his sister, Theresa Allore, in Canada thirty years earlier. And what they discovered about her likely killer was disturbing. 

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Author Mike Vance makes his second appearance on our show, this time to talk about notorious defense attorney James Brockman and his most controversial cases...including Brockman’s own murder. 

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What if you realized as an adult that your beloved childhood babysitter was a serial killer? Liza Rodman and her co-writer Jennifer Jordan unveil Liza’s harrowing story of her time with murderer Tony Costa.  

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Author Yudhijit Bhattacharjee unravels the story of a would-be spy who was (fortunately) tripped up by something he couldn’t control. Find out how the FBI derailed his plans to sell America’s military secrets.  

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Author David Crow’s father Thurston Crow was a suspected killer who claimed to be a Native American while he raised his children on various reservations. This is a story survival story. But The Pale-Faced Lie turned out to be a controversial book because David admits to committing crimes, including covering up a murder.   

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For centuries, killers have used poison to cover up murders…but chemicals are complicated, and poisonings are easy to botch. Find out about some of the world’s most famous cases with author Neil Bradbury. 

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Author Kevin Birmingham transports us to 1800s Paris, where a charming robber became a killer; the public’s response appalled a Russian writer so much that he penned a novel about it. It became one of history’s most important literary works. 

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Author Kendare Blake tells us about the true crime story that inspired one of her fiction books. In 1958, Caril Ann Fugate was blamed for the murders committed by her boyfriend, Charlie Starkweather. Was Fugate a cold-blooded killer, or a terrified teenager? 

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In the mid-1970s a serial killer preyed on women and girls in South Florida, leaving their bodies in canals across the area. Author Michael Burns describes the suspects, including one very well-known predator. Was Ted Bundy responsible? 

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You might have heard of Belle Gunness, one of America’s most famous female serial killers. But author Harold Schechter explains that her murderous motives were more complicated than we might think. How did she die? 

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Are there myths about the FBI? Yes...says retired agent Jerri Williams. In this episode, she helps break down the Polly Klaas case from the FBI’s point of view. 

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A 20-year-old dancer dreams of becoming a star in 1920s Hollywood; when she finally becomes famous it’s because of her death, not her life. Author James Stewart tells why there is still so much mystery around her life...and why she died.  

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Tenfold More Wicked presents the premiere episode of Buried Bones, Exactly Right's newest historical true crime podcast. Buried Bones dissects some of history’s most dramatic true crime cases from centuries ago. Together, journalist Kate Winkler Dawson and retired investigator Paul Holes explore these very old cases through a 21st century lens. 

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Prolific true crime author Diane Fanning recalls the story from her youth that inspired her first book about her time with a serial killer who admitted to a murder to her...and no one else. Find out why. 

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Dr. Ann Burgess helped shape criminal profiling at the FBI’s Behavioral Science Unit in the 1970s; Dr. Burgess has long been recognized as one of the leaders in the field of victimology. In their book, Dr. Ann Burgess and Steven Constantine focused on the victims, but also profiled the killers. 

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Vanity Fair writer Joe Pompeo uncovers unpublished details about one of the most fascinating cases found in the annals of true crime, the Hall/Mills murders. Pompeo investigates a story that fuses religion, betrayal, greed, and adoration, which offers us a complex and tragic portrait of a love story that seemed almost doomed from start. 

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A Pulitzer Prize finalist, Sierra Crane Murdoch’s book details a Native American woman’s fight to uncover the killer of a White man on the reservation where she grew up in North Dakota.  

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The tale of Lizzie Borden is one of America’s great true crime mysteries and no one has researched the case more deeply than author Cara Robertson. Find out new details about the suspected killer who might have gotten away with murder.  

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Author Stephen Davis details for us a harrowing story about hundreds of passengers who are held for months in Kuwait as they sit right in the middle of a war. 

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Idaho journalist Nate Eaton moved to Idaho from Virginia to relax with his family. Little did he know that he would be drawn into one of the biggest true crime cases in decades: the investigation into Lori Vallow Daybell and her husband. Nate has the inside details on the trial and the plight of both families.    

This live episode was recorded at CrimeCon in Las Vegas in April 2022. 

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We’ve met author Sarah Weinman before when she unraveled the real story of the novel Lolita. Now Weinman tells us about killer Edgar Smith, who manipulated powerful men and women to help him get out of prison...and then he killed again.  

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Award-winning author Paula Yoo investigates the murder of Vincent Chin in Detroit in the 1980s and the outrage that was sparked over an unjust verdict.  

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Poisons are excellent accomplices, says author Deborah Blum. She offers us the fascinating story of America’s first medical investigators and how they caught criminals in some of the most complicated poisoning cases in history.  

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Author Matthew McGough has spent years investigating a cold case that led him to a Los Angeles police detective and a department that ignored some vital clues to a murder. McGough will take us through the murder of 29-year-old newlywed Sherri Rasmussen and how her killer got away with it for decades. 

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Author Kathryn Miles investigates how a serial killer stalked women in the Shenandoah National Park in Virginia. Miles uncovers new evidence which suggests that an innocent man is under suspicion, while a suspected serial killer escapes the law. 

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Travel journalist Brandon Presser explores a remote, sparely populated island in the South Pacific with a history of mutiny, greed, and murder. 

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The hosts of the hit true crime podcast “RedHanded” recall murderous stories from their book and uncover some unanswered questions about the killers’ motivations.   

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Award-winning author and historian Candice Millard writes about the fusion of adventure, courage, and death on the Nile River.   

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"Mrs. Sherlock Holmes" is the fascinating true-life story of Grace Humiston, a New York lawyer and detective who broke gender rules at the turn of the century and solved the famous cold case of 18-year-old Ruth Cruger. Author Brad Ricca tells the story so well. 

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Wicked Words is back for Season 2 with more cases from some of the world’s best journalists and writers. Host Kate Winkler Dawson interviews storytellers about their best true crime investigations, including the journalist who teamed up with her old high school boyfriend to investigate his sister’s murder, the writer whose babysitter was a serial killer, and the real female Mindhunter behind the Netflix series. These are the stories behind the stories.

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The fallout from Dorothy Symons’ death echoes throughout her family for generations. Her mother was institutionalized. Her brothers were separated. But the Symons are resilient, and they will never forget Dorothy.  

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The conclusion of Newton Yarberry’s murder trial is revealed as Dorothy Symons’ family falls apart. Will they get retribution for her death?  

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One murder, two real suspects. The death of Dorothy Symons ripped apart a small coastal town as everyone in Aransas Pass debated who killed the 18-year-old. Would investigators focus on locals Tom Conner or Newton Yarberry? 

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A man and his family made a terrible discovery on the beach of Redfish Bay in Texas; it’s clear to investigators that Dorothy Symons had been murdered. But who tops their list of suspects?  

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As Dorothy Symons’ family searches for her, we learn more about her past. Her biological father in Indiana was shady and dangerous. Aransas Pass wasn’t the safe small town it seemed to be. And Dorothy was supposed to go swimming in the bay with a local man, Newton Yarberry, the night she vanished. Would she be found safe?  

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Dorothy Symons was a small-town girl from Aransas Pass on the Texas Coast. By 1931, America was deep into the Great Depression and Prohibition, yet the 18-year-old still had fun with girlfriends in towns…and boyfriends. Then one night, she disappeared. What happened to Dorothy Symons?  

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The sixth season of Tenfold More Wicked is called “The Echo of Murder.”  

It’s a historical true crime story, set in 1931, about the murder of an 18-year-old woman with so much potential, who felt so much pressure to be perfect. And how everyone in her family, for generations, has been impacted by her death. Dorothy Symons was kind, caring and loved until the day she was murdered and buried on a Texas beach.  

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Captain Vincent Oliver Witcher and his four grandsons might stand trial for murdering three members of the Clement family. Or will they walk away? What becomes of both families? The story of the famous Blood Feud ends with both the Clements and the Witchers losing quite a lot—one has lost their loved ones, while the other has lost their influence.  

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The feud between the Witchers and the Clements comes to a bloody end as three members of one family are dead. The community in southern Virginia is split over who is to blame. Several members of the other family head to court…and possibly to the gallows. 

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A list of witnesses gives their opinions on the terrible marriage between Victoria Witcher Smith and James Clement; James claims that Victoria isn’t fit to raise little Leila Maude, while Victoria accuses James of being violent. There are two meetings between the families—both ended with gunfire. 

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The marriage between James Clement and Victoria Witcher Smith will soon be officially over. They both want a divorce and they both want custody of their little girl, Leila Maude. A date for their divorce depositions has been set and things are tense. A confrontation between the Clements and the Witcher is inevitable. 

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The marriage between James Clement and Victoria Witcher Smith has now deteriorated. Their families are watching them closely, each hoping the other doesn’t react violently. But when James becomes more possessive, Victoria starts to lash out. He’ll try to tighten his grip on his wife until it becomes too much. 

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In 1860, the Witchers and the Clements have more than a century of history; they served in the American Revolution together; they married one another, and both respected each other…until James Clement marries Victoria Witcher Smith and they had a child. He is jealous, and she is free-spirited. This marriage isn’t destined to end well. 

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The fifth season of Tenfold More Wicked is called “Blood Feud.” It’s a historical true crime story about a deadly feud between two very angry families in 1860s Virginia. The Clements were wealthy, but the Witchers were powerful. And when a Clement fell in love with a Witcher, it was trouble. A poisoned marriage sparked a violent custody battle. And soon, three members of one family would end up dead. 

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A lot has happened to Clara Phillips in 1922: she was convicted by a jury of killing Alberta Meadows, but jurors handed her a light sentence. She soon escaped jail and now Clara’s on the run in Honduras with her sister as Armour continues to support her financially.  How will the “Clara Phillips” show end? And will Alberta’s family ever see justice for her murder? 

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Clara Phillips sits in the witness chair, gazing at the gentlemen sitting on the jury at her murder trial in Los Angeles in 1922. Clara has always been adept at manipulating men…will it work this time? Meanwhile, the press harasses both Armour and Peggy Caffey. 

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Alberta Meadows’s father must identify his daughter’s body while her killer, Clara Phillips, is on the run, sitting on a train that is heading to Texas. But her husband, Armour, is having second thoughts. Will he turn her in, or will he start a new life with her? And where is Peggy Caffey?  

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Clara Phillips has finally had enough—she has a failing marriage, a career in Hollywood that is sliding to a stop and no children. More than a decade of violent outbursts has finally added up to extreme violence and Alberta Meadows is her target. But will Alberta become Clara Phillips’s victim or is it someone else? Remember that Peggy Caffey is also inside that car on Montecito Drive.  

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Clara Phillips’s jealousy is becoming more serious as she begins lashing out at Armour and stalking Alberta Meadows—even though there’s no evidence that Armour is cheating. And now Clara has drawn her best friend Peggy Caffey into this drama. On a shopping trip to downtown Los Angeles, Clara buys that infamous hammer and soon they’ve coaxed Alberta Meadows into their car.  

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In 1922, former chorus girl Clara Phillips and her handsome husband Armour has a lovely house in West Hollywood, a car, a telephone, nice clothes…all those important status symbols. Armour tells everyone that he works in oil. It’s a lie—one of many they both tell. It all seems to be going well, except Clara hears an upsetting rumor from a neighbor that Armour is having an affair with a young widow. This can’t end well.  

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The fourth season of Tenfold More Wicked is called “Tiger Woman.” It’s a historical true crime story about a Southern girl turned Hollywood chorus girl turned...killer with a hammer in 1920s Los Angeles. Armour Phillips is a grifter, a conman who bilks people of their money with a smile. His life seems perfect, except he’s married to a deeply troubled woman. She’s charming, beautiful, and violent. Their marriage will end with a terrible murder…but who’s the victim and who’s the killer? It's complicated when you’re dealing with a psychopath.   

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In Part Two, author and journalist Elon Green reveals the identity of the serial killer who preyed upon gay men in New York in the ‘80s and ‘90s...and it was an unlikely suspect.  

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Author and journalist Elon Green lays out the case of the Last Call Killer, who preyed upon gay men in New York in the ‘80s and ‘90s and had all the hallmarks of the most notorious serial killers. Yet because of the sexuality of his victims, the sky-high murder rates, and the AIDS epidemic, his murders have been almost forgotten. Make sure to listen to Part Two next week. 

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Author Blaine Pardoe tells us about the infamous Colonial Parkway Murders –the name given to eight murders that took place in the Tidewater region in the late 1980s. Young people in the prime of their lives were the targets but then, mysteriously, the killing spree stopped. Find out about the potential suspects and how the case might be solved. 

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Author Isha Sesay unravels the story that started a global campaign to find the almost 300 schoolgirls who were kidnapped by extremists in Nigeria. 

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Author Miles Harvey introduces us to James Strang, a charismatic young lawyer and avowed atheist, who vanished from a rural town in 1840s New York. Soon he persuaded hundreds of fellow Mormon-converts to follow him to an island, where he declared himself a divine king. Was his murder considered vigilante justice? 

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New York Times bestselling author Abbott Kahler recalls the epic true crime story of the most successful bootlegger in American history and the murder that shocked America during Prohibition.  

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Award-winning author Dean Jobb explores the complicated—and deadly—world of nineteenth century serial killer Dr. Thomas Neill Cream. Why was the murderous doctor suspected of being Jack the Ripper? How many of his own victims survived?  

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Filmmaker PJ Raval introduces us to Jennifer Laude in this episode. When the transgender Filipina woman was found dead in a motel room and the leading suspect is a U.S. Marine, grassroots activists demanded accountability.   

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Murder Squad host Paul Holes helps us unravel the case of Bessie Ferguson in 1920s Northern California, a woman with many secrets.   

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Author Katherine Dykstra investigates to murder of 18-year-old Paula Oberbroeckling in Cedar Rapids, Iowa in 1970. Katherine talks to family members, including her mother and sister, in hopes of gathering clues to this 50-year-old unsolved case. 

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Author Dean King digs into the country’s most notorious family feud: the Hatfields and the McCoys, with added details about what really caused the fight and just how far it went.   

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Author and CNN journalist John Blake tells us about the murders of three civil rights workers, including James Earl Chaney in Mississippi in the 1960s. Blake explores how James’s death still reverberates through the Chaney family.  

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Author Rachel Monroe talks with us about WHY we love true crime through the story of Lindsay Souvannarath, who had a pact with her cyber-crush James Gamble to carry out a Valentine’s Day mass shooting.  

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Filmmaker (and Tenfold More Wicked producer) Jason Wehling explores the wrongful conviction of Michael Morton, a Texas man who spent nearly 25 years in prison for killing his wife, Christine.  

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New York Times best-selling author Maureen Callahan unravels the story of serial killer Israel Keyes and his victims; Callahan interviewed the investigators who caught one of the country’s most notorious murderers.   

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Author Mary Kay McBrayer unpacks the life of serial killer Jane Toppan, the murderous nurse with a tragic life’s story.   

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Phoenix Magazine writer Dawson Fearnow investigates two murders that might have connected to the same killer in 1920s Phoenix. Why did two men, both lotharios, end up in the same canal? Was it an angry husband or could it really have been that simple?      

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Author Vicki Erwin introduces us to 1930s Depression-era Missouri where a prominent woman in a small town is assaulted and murdered. Did her husband, the wealthy attorney, do it? Or was it another suspect? This was a case that sparked allegations of racism and privilege during the Great Depression. 

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Author Beverly Lowry takes us inside the story of four teenagers who were brutalized and murdered inside a yogurt shop in 1990s Austin, Texas. Who killed these girls? Did the real killers get away with murder?     

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Journalist Karen K. Ho covers the case of Jennifer Pan, a woman now in prison for ordering the hit on her parents, which ended with the death of one of them. But this story was personal for Ho because she went to high school with Jennifer in Canada. Was it difficult to report on someone who was in her social circle?     

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Author Mike Vance gives us details on the murders of five people in the same Houston, Texas house in 1910. The police had a suspect but there was little evidence--was the killer a jealous lover? An envious wife? Or a serial killer?   

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Texas Monthly Senior Editor Katy Vine reports on the controversial criminal trial of Warren Jeffs, the polygamous prophet of the Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. 

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Author Piper Weiss relives her privileged childhood in Manhattan when she was coached by a tennis instructor who was protecting a terrible secret; Weiss’s memoir is a cautionary tale about why young women need to trust their instincts. 

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In this episode author Melissa del Bosque takes us through her investigation into one of Mexico’s deadliest drug cartels and how it infiltrated American horseracing, leaving so many victims dead.  

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Author Buddy Moorehouse investigates the murder of his mother’s cousin, a Hollywood actress who starred in movies with Elvis Presley and Ronald Reagan. Did Jenny Maxwell really die during a botched robbery?  

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Former journalist Russell Maines takes us back to Upstate New York in 1989 when someone brutalized and murdered a mother, father and two children, and then set their home on fire just days before Christmas. An innocent person might have been sent to prison while the killer might have gotten away with murder.  

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Award-winning journalist Pamela Colloff reports on how the murder of Mickey Bryan stunned her small Texas town. But when Mickey's husband, Joe Bryan, was charged with killing her, controversial forensic evidence became the focal point. Did he do it, or had there been a terrible mistake thanks to junk science?

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Pulitzer Prize winning journalist Wesley Lowery talks with us about a lynching in rural Georgia in 1983 and how it impacted the victim’s family, along with the town. Will the Coggins family receive justice for the murder of Timothy?   

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Author Sarah Weinman shines a light on the kidnapping of young Sally Horner and how her ordeal in the 1940s might have inspired controversial novelist Vladimir Nabokov’s book “Lolita” and what lessons we can learn about victim-blaming.  

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Documentary filmmaker Joshua Zeman takes us on a journey to unearth controversial evidence that perhaps there were two serial killers using the same dumping ground in Long Island, New York. 

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Vanity Fair reporter and New York Times best-selling author Bryan Burrough went to high school with a young man who would eventually become a serial killer. Burrough returns to his hometown of Temple, Texas for a deep dive into this very personal story, talking to survivors and investigators. 

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Forensic psychologist Dr. Katherine Ramsland spent years interviewing BTK Killer Dennis Rader in prison, digging into the psyche of a psychopath and a serial killer. Find out what he taught her in this fascinating episode.  

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The host of Tenfold More Wicked, Kate Winkler Dawson, interviews journalists and writers about their best true crime cases. You’ll meet the filmmaker who investigated the Long Island serial killer, the forensic psychologist who spent years interviewing BTK Killer Dennis Rader, and a New York Times best-selling author who went to school with a future serial killer. These are the stories behind the stories.

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The climax of Howard Pierson’s story. After almost 30 years in a mental health facility, the killer might just walk free. And if he does, he’ll have a huge amount of money at his disposal, thanks to his siblings. But Howard Pierson’s life would end tragically…just not in the way you might expect.

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Howard Pierson has escaped from the Austin State Hospital, three years after killing his parents. Newspapers print dramatic headlines while investigators, including the Texas Rangers, search for the escapee. Is Howard capable of killing again? One relative has a startling theory about why Howard really killed Will and Lena Pierson.

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A jury finds Howard Pierson incapable of standing trial because he is insane. He’ll be sent to a mental health facility, not a prison. But there’s a caveat: if Howard is ever determined to be sane, he can be tried for killing his parents. We also find out more about Will Pierson…he’s not the kind person he appears to be. Howard is soon on the run.

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In April of 1935, Howard Pierson has confessed to Austin police that he murdered his parents. The district attorney prepares a case against the 21-year-old, asserting that Howard snapped because his father had refused to fund his education at the University of Texas and then forced him to toil in a hot oil field. But Howard’s brother and sister hire several top defense attorneys who declare that Howard Pierson is not bitter…but insane. Will the defense work? 

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Will and Lena Pierson are dead and their son, Howard, is sitting in a police station in Austin, Texas. Howard’s siblings describe him as a sad boy who became an awkward young man. Investigators also discover that Will and Lena Pierson had a hefty life insurance policy. But who would benefit the most from their murders? And were they really killed over money?

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In 1935 William and Lena Pierson are living a wonderful life; he is an associate judge on the Texas Supreme Court, a career politician. She is a beloved homemaker and mother to their three children: Bill, Alice and Howard. One night in April, Howard (their youngest child) rushes into a local hospital with an arm wound—he’s been shot by robbers in rural Austin, by a creek. His parents are dead. The local police are panicked.

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The third season of Tenfold More Wicked is called “Murder in the Court.” It's a historical true crime story about a fractured family in 1930s Texas and the murders that left a black mark on its history. Associate Supreme Court Justice William Pierson is revered on the bench, while his wife Lena is adored by their three kids at home. One night in April of 1935 the couple is murdered. Soon the suspect would shock everyone with a controversial defense that still angers people today.  

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The climax of Burke and Hare’s story—will they both die on the gallows? Would their wives face the same fate? A twist on the tale is coming. And Dr. Robert Knox has a reckoning.

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A raucous Halloween parts leads to a violent death for one poor person in Old Town. The police are offered a valuable tip, but will they ignore it? Dr. Robert Knox is targeted. The end is near…

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Clips at the beginning of the episode are from the movie Peter Cushing: The Fiendish Ghouls and the radio show Crime Classics, from the episode titled "If a Body Need a Body, Just Call Burke and Hare."

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Resentment grows between William Burke and William Hare in Old Town, while Dr. Robert Knox continues to make professional enemies in New Town. And the serial killers pick the wrong victim. Will this be the end of their partnership…even their lives?

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Mary Paterson has entranced Dr. Robert Knox, and she’s earned William Burke and William Hare a large fee. As the murders continue, things begin to shift as mistrust between the serial killers grows. While one victim haunts Burke, Hare and his wife make a fateful decision.

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William Burke and William Hare begin targeting victims and perfecting their murder method: Burking (look it up in the dictionary). Dr. Robert Knox’s classes are at capacity now…he’s making loads of money. He and his assistants happily hand over money to Burke and Hare…and never ask questions. But soon all three would meet a woman who would change everything—and put their business at risk. 

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In 1827 William Burke and William Hare, both poor immigrants from Ireland, enter into a business partnership. When a lodger at Hare’s boarding house suddenly dies the pair meets Dr. Robert Knox, one of the world’s most sought-after anatomy professors. Knox needs cadavers to teach classes to future surgeons—just like anatomy professors today. Burke and Hare earn more money with one body than a year’s worth of wages. But now…they need more bodies.

Written, researched, and hosted by Kate Winkler Dawson/producers Jason Wehling and Laura Sobel/sound designer Eric Friend/composer Curtis Heath/web designer Ilsa Brink

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