At one point, it looked like Covid was going to be the death-knell for Champagne. And then...the bubbles bounced back. Big time.
But things aren't quite the same as they were - in intriguing ways...
In this fascinating episode we catch up on all the latest hot topics from this famous and historic fine wine region in northern France with none other than legendary winemaker Jean-Baptiste Lécaillon of Louis Roederer (and Cristal).
And he tells us: 'The 21st century is changing everything.'
So what exactly is the 'new' Champagne all about? On the one hand, it's about admitting mistakes (sounds like the 60s and 70s have a lot to answer for). It's also about risk and the potential rewards for pioneers.
We make sure to have a couple of glasses of delicious Champagne wines to hand - entirely for educational purposes, of course.
There's talk of drinking glass pyramids, still wines, scallops, happiness, a tornado and the move from non-vintage to multi-vintage (yes, we do explain).
Life is too short for bland champagne! Do you agree?!
More details, photos and recommendations are on our site: The New Champagne with Jean-Baptiste Lécaillon show notes
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