Jens Stoltenberg: Trump, China and NATO's future (Part 2)

In more from his exclusive interview with The Times, outgoing NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg discusses the growing alliance between China, Russia, Iran and North Korea, and future threats to NATO. Plus, he insists all members would carry out their duty to defend each other in the event of an attack on a NATO country. The Times' Defence Editor, Larisa Brown, joins the World in 10 to analyse Stoltenberg's thoughts.

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