Worthy: Celebrating the Value of Women

Nancy Moore is the founder and lead consultant of NL Moore & Associates. Her company helps churches and faith-based organizations take the guesswork out of their most important leadership decisions. In this episode, Nancy shares how she realized her gift of leadership, call to ministry, and deep love for the local church and brought these together to serve the church. Learn more at nlmoore.com.

Glenna Marshall is a pastor’s wife and mother of two energetic sons. She is the author of The Promise is His Presence and Everyday Faithfulness. She writes regularly at GlennaMarshall.com on biblical literacy, suffering, and the faithfulness of God. She is a member of Grace Bible Fellowship in Sikeston, Missouri.

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Dr Pamela MacRae is a professor in the Applied Theology and Church Ministry Division at Moody Bible Institute, giving oversight to the Ministry to Women major, as well as the Ministry to Women Online Certificate program. She also serves on an executive team of Naomi’s House, a residential program for sexually exploited women in the Chicagoland area, and oversees Moody’s Women’s Conference. She’s married to Bob who is a Professor of Youth ministry at Moody. They have two married daughters and six grandchildren.  She’s been involved in Ministry to Women in various churches and para-church ministries for over 35 years and has been a guest on the Worthy podcast.

Our guest is Elizabeth A. Mitchell (elizabethamitchell.com). She’s a Bible teacher, blogger, author, and speaker. She is also part of the leadership team at Boca Raton Community Church, serving alongside her husband Bill. As part of the faculty of WorldLead, she frequently travels overseas to train and mentor leaders involved in the nonprofit world. She’s also the author of “Journey for the Heart: Hope When Life’s Unfair”, a book for those who are experiencing circumstances that leave them feeling hopeless and discouraged which will be the primary topic of our conversation today.

This conversation originally aired on January 8th, 2020.

Nancy Guthrie — Elyse and Eric are joined by author, speaker, and bible teacher Nancy Guthrie in a conversation about the importance of biblical theology, particularly as a comfort in suffering.

This conversation originally aired on January 7th, 2021. 

Author and speaker Paul Tripp joins Elyse and Eric for a conversation about the gospel and masculinity.

This originally aired September 6th, 2021. 

Elyse and Eric are joined by Joni Eareckson Tada, founder of Joni and Friends, a Christian non-profit that has advanced disability ministry and changing the church and communities around the world since 1979. Learn more at joniandfriends.org.

This originally aired on February 11, 2021

Eric and Elyse talk with internationally recognized psychologist Dr. Diane Langberg about her life, her career in trauma care, and her latest book Redeeming Power: Understanding Authority and Abuse in the Church.

Gretchen loves rich theology rooted in real life. She created Gospel Mentoring, a training program for intergenerational discipleship, and is the co-host of Freely Given, a podcast on living free in Christ. She has articles published at 1517, Christianity Today, Mere Orthodoxy, and regularly speaks at events. Her books include: Ragged: Spiritual Disciplines for the Spiritually Exhausted, and “The Story of Katie Luther: the Nun Who Escaped to Freedom” coming out in August of 2024 with Crossway, and has an upcoming book on God’s patience for for us, to be published with Lexham Press sometime in 2025. She enjoys knitting, reading many books at the same time, and embarrassing her teenagers in public. She’s married Knut, who is a 4th generation farmer in Minnesota. They have 6 kids who are now elementary through college age. She is a member at Good Shepherd Lutheran Brethren Church in Fergus Falls, MN.

Whitney K. Pipkin is the author of We Shall All Be Changed: How Facing Death With Loved Ones Transforms Us. Whitney lives with her husband, three children and a dog named Honeybun in Northern Virginia, where they are longtime members of Grace Bible Church in Lorton. 

She has worked as a journalist for a decade and a half, with articles appearing in The Washington Post, National Geographic and NPR alongside her regular work at the Chesapeake Bay Journal. She also has written for Christian publications such as The Gospel Coalition, The ERLC and Common Good magazine and writes for the ministry Women & Work.

She loves women’s Bible studies with her church, black coffee the second she wakes up and reading with her kids playing (quietly?) nearby on Sunday afternoons. You can find her on Instagram @whitneykpipkin and sign up for her newsletter at whitneykpipkin.com.

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Aimee is an author, speaker, blogger, podcaster and former coffee shop owner. She’s the author of several books, including Housewife Theologian, Theological Fitness, No Little Women, Why Can’t We Be Friends,  Recovering from Biblical Manhood and Womanhood, The Sexual Reformation: Restoring the Dignity and Personhood of Man and Woman  and her latest book The Hope in our Scars: Finding Christ in the Underground of Disillusionment 

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Stacy is a pastor's wife, momma of four kids ranging from ten to twenty, writer and speaker. My aim in writing is to point others to Christ through the beauty of words, application of the Bible and lessons I'm learning in my own life. 

Courtney Ellis is an author, speaker, pastor, and host of “The Thing With Feathers Podcast.” She is also a birder, encourager, inspiration-giver, and laugh-bringer based in Orange County, California where she lives with her husband (also a pastor!) and three young children. Get her newest book, Looking Up: A Birder’s Guide to Hope Through Grief is out now.

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Kylie Collins (RN, BSN) is the Founder and Executive Director of Walk With You, a non-profit devoted to walking with families as they experience the loss of a child. https://www.walkwithyounonprofit.org

Covenant of Water

American Dirt 

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Jami Nato is a writer, serial entrepreneur, and apparently an Instagram influencer (insert jazz hands). She mentors thousands of leaders by running an essential oils business and a local coffee shop. She has four non-Catholic kids who attend Catholic school, one irritatingly athletic husband, a dog with one eye, and several plants she brings to the edge of death regularly. She juggles this circus in the best-kept secret of the Midwest where people genuinely do care about your aunt’s hip surgery: Kansas City. Learn more at jaminato.com.

This Must be the Place; Following the Breadcrumbs of Your Past to Discover Your Purpose Today

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After spending a few years in the campaign and elections field, Ashley Guzik followed God's nudge and took a leap of faith to accept a job at the San Diego Rescue Mission, a faith-based shelter and rehabilitation program for those experiencing homelessness. With a quick stint assisting the Development Team, Ashley transitioned into the Church and Community Engagement department, where she serves as the Manager of Church Partnerships. For the past four years at the Rescue Mission, Ashley has inspired local churches to take an active role in healing the San Diego region from homelessness. Ashley and her team help equip churches with outreach training, resources, and tools to love our unsheltered neighbors as kindly and compassionately as Christ would. From speaking at Sunday church services and Vacation Bible Schools around the County, Ashley feels encouraged by the spirit of revival coming into San Diego's pews and streets. 

Ashley grew up in San Clemente, CA, and earned a Bachelor of Arts in International Peace Studies from Point Loma Nazarene University. She currently attends Park Hill Church in Point Loma and is working towards her Master of Ministry and Leadership degree from Western Seminary. Ashley will be married to her fiancé, Bryce, this summer. They're excited to continue their service to Christ and his Kingdom together.

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Lore Ferguson Wilbert is the author of A Curious Faith and Handle with Care, which won a 2021 Christianity Today Book Award. She writes at lorewilbert.com. Wilbert has written for Christianity Today, Fathom magazine, and She Reads Truth and served as general editor of B&H’s Read and Reflect with the Classics. She lives in the Adirondack mountains in upstate New York with her husband. She is also the author of The Understory: An Invitation to Rootedness and Resilience from the Forest Floor.

Handle With Care: How Jesus Redeems the Power of Life and Touch in Life and Ministry

A Curious Faith: The Questions God Asks, We Ask, and We Wish Someone Would Ask Us

Alina has been a pediatric intensive care unit (PICU) nurse since 2010. She often jokes that as an introvert and a fairly low-stimulation kind of person, she is working in a job where she doesn't belong. Yet her passion for nursing has only grown over time, despite all of its incredible demands, complexities, and growing moral dilemmas. It is not an easy profession to be in, which makes her fight all the more fiercely for herself and her colleagues to find, rediscover, reframe, and sustain a deep sense of meaning and calling for the work we do.

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She has published work in American Journal of Nursing and blogs regularly for them on Off the Charts. She has also published work in Intima: A Journal of Narrative Medicine, The Oxford Handbook of Meaningful Work, and The Healer’s Burden: Stories and Poems of Professional Grief.

• Her TEDxTalk with TEDxPasadena in 2017 on “How Grief Can Enable Nurses to Endure” (which was promoted to the main TED.com page in 2020 as “How Grief Helped Me Become a Better Caregiver.”)

She holds a Masters of Biblical & Theological Studies from Dallas Theological Seminary and has authored two books: Start with Welcome: The Journey toward a Confident and Compassionate Immigration Conversation, and a children’s book: The Biggest Best Light: Shining God’s Light into the World Around You. 

After a year-long hiatus, Elyse and Eric are back with a new episode. In this episode, they remind us of the reason for this podcast. Then they catch us up on what has been going on in their lives. 

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Mentioned by Elyse:

Women of Welcome

World Relief

Hope for San Diego

"Home" Poem

American Dirt

Start with Welcome

National Immigration Forum

Mentioned by Eric: 

The Good Gift of Weakness

Ours: Biblical Comfort for Men Grieving Miscarriage 

In His Hands: Prayers for your Baby or Child in a Medical Crisis

Amanda Cunningham is a former model and actress who left the business after 10 years when she become a mom. Subsequently, she entered an identity crisis where she was stunned to find identity in Christ. She is now a writer, speaker, wife of a Fire Captain, and mother of two girls. Amanda has written for the international women’s ministry Love God Greatly, for her local church (Lakepointe Church in Rockwall, TX) and is currently working on a book about healing poor body image by searching for the sacred beauty of God’s image within us. You can find Amanda online on her website, Instagram, Twitter, Facebook, and Pinterest.

This crossover episode features Paul Tripp interviewing Eric about his book Ours: Biblical Comfort for Men Grieving Miscarriage on The Connecting Podcast. Listen to the full episode at paultripp.com/the-connecting-podcast/posts/010-eric-schumacher. Learn more about Eric at emschumacher.com.

 Paul Tripp Interviews Eric Schumacher — This crossover episode features Paul Tripp interviewing Eric about his life and faith on The Connecting Podcast. Listen to the full episode at paultripp.com/the

This crossover episode features Paul Tripp interviewing Elyse and Eric about Worthy: Celebrating the Value of Women on The Connecting Podcast. Listen to the full episode at paultripp.com/the-connecting-podcast/posts/009-elyse-fitzpatrick-and-eric-schumacher. Learn more about Elyse at elysefitzpatrick.com.

Ep. 146 — Paul Tripp Interviews Elyse Fitzpatrick — This crossover episode features Paul Tripp interviewing Elyse Fitzpatrick about her life and faith on The Connecting Podcast. Listen to the full episode at paultripp.com/the-connecting-podcast/posts/009-elyse-fitzpatrick-and-eric-schumacher. Learn more about Elyse at elysefitzpatrick.com.

Leslie and her daughter Carey Bustard join us to talk about their book Wild Things and Castles in the Sky: A Guide to Choosing the Best Books for Children, co-edited with  friend Théa Rosenburg, it was published in April 2022. As vice president, Leslie Bustard, of Square Halo Books, has developed and hosted their podcast series The Square Halo, as well as planned their conferences. You can find her at Square Halo Books, The Black Barn Online, Story Warren, and Calla Press, as well as thier website PoeticUnderpinnings.com. 

Katie Stewart is a professional writer and certified editor with over 12 years of experience in writing creative nonfiction, sales copy, and marketing copy for a major nonprofit. At Owl's Nest, Katie is the COO and Managing Editor as well as one of their Classics authors. Find Katie on @lifebetweenwords on Instagram and Life Between Words on YouTube.

Karin Hoyle is an author and professional writer who has published 11 books for teens, taught creative writing and publishing courses, spoken at a variety of venues, crafted her own writing curriculum, and written for a number of publications. At Owl's Nest, Karin is the CEO and Acquisitions Editor as well as one of their Teen and Middle Grade authors. Visit kbhoyle.com to learn more.

Elizabeth Garn (MA, Reformed Theological Seminary) is a wife, mother, writer, and speaker. When she's not picking Legos off the floor, she's leading Bible studies, speaking at conferences, and writing about everyday theology for the lives of women. She wrote the book Freedom to Flourish: The Rest God Offers in the Purpose He Gives You.

Sarah Walton has co-authored (along with Kristen Wetherell) Hope When It Hurts: Biblical Reflections to Grasp God’s Purpose in Your Suffering. Her husband, Jeff, and her also had the privilege of writing a follow-up book for marriages navigating the trials of life, called Together Through the Storms: Biblical Encouragements For Your Marriage When Life Hurts. 

In this week's episode we interview Bri Stensrud. She is a human dignity advocate and the Director of Women of Welcome. She holds a Masters of Biblical & Theological Studies from Dallas Theological Seminary and lives in Colorado Springs with her husband and two kids.

In this week's episode Chelsea Patterson Sobolik joins us to talk about her work with the ERLC. She is the Senior Director of Policy & Advocacy for Lifeline Children’s Services, where she advocate for policies that ensure every child has access to a safe, permanent and loving home.

Ann Wilson and her husband Dave are the authors of Vertical Marriage: The One Secret That Will Change Your Marriage and No Perfect Parents: Ditch Expectations, Embrace Reality, and Discover the One Secret That Will Change Your Parenting (2021). Additionally, they are touring speakers, as well as the radio hosts of the nationally syndicated radio show, Family Life Today. But it’s their singular passion for enriching lives through spreading the Word and wisdom of God that truly defines them.

Katie Orr joins us to talk about her Bible study methods. 

Leah Boyd the "Sassy Seminarian" @LeahBSassy joins us to talk about her faith journey and love for theology, specifically Bavinck. 

Tara-Leigh Cobble (taraleighcobble.com) is the creator and host of The Bible Recap podcast and the author of the book by the same name. She founded D-Group, an international network of weekly discipleship and Bible study groups, and she hosts a daily radio show called The God Shot. She lives in Dallas, TX.

Jen Wilkin is an author and Bible teacher from Dallas, Texas. She has organized and led studies for women in home, church, and parachurch contexts. An advocate for Bible literacy, her passion is to see others become articulate and committed followers of Christ, with a clear understanding of why they believe what they believe, grounded in the Word of God. You can find her at JenWilkin.net.

Nancy Guthrie teaches the Bible at her home church, Cornerstone Presbyterian Church in Franklin, Tennessee, as well as at conferences around the country and internationally, including her Biblical Theology Workshops for Women. She is the host of the Help Me Teach the Bible podcast from the Gospel Coalition and the author of numerous books, including Blessed: Experiencing the Promise of the Book of Revelation, Even Better than Eden, and Saints and Scoundrels in the Story of Jesus. She and her husband are cohosts of the GriefShare video series and lead Respite Retreats for couples who have faced the death of a child.

Pamela MacRae is a Professor in the Applied Theology and Church Ministry Division at Moody Bible Institute, giving oversight to the Ministry to Women major, Ministry to Victims of Sexual Exploitation major, as well as the Ministry to Women Online Certificate program. She also serves on an executive team of Naomi's House, a residential program for sexually exploited women in the Chicagoland area.

Jessica Thompson is an author of several books including her latest How God Loves Us: 40 Days to Discovering His Character in the Fruit of the Spirit and a frequent conference speaker. She is part of the podcast Front Porch with the Fitzes, and is the director of church life at RISEN Church in San Diego, California. She’s also on the board of Hope for San Diego.

Cicely Corry serves as Managing Editor for Barna Group, helping lead and strengthen the firm’s editorial strategy for effective data storytelling. As an experienced journalist and marketing manager, she offers a unique perspective to help today’s thought leaders connect and engage in meaningful ways. Cicely is an Atlanta native with a B.A. in print journalism and minor in marketing from Hampton University and M.A. in journalism from Regent University. Travel, mixing patterns and red velvet cupcakes are a few of her favorites. She resides in the Charlotte area with her husband, Darius, and son, Haven.

Eric Schumacher — Elyse is joined by guest host Abbey Wedgeworth for a conversation with Eric about his book, Ours: Biblical Comfort for Men Grieving Miscarriage. Abbey Wedgeworth is a wife, mother, and writer. She is passionate about discipleship and bible literacy and loves to see the way that the gospel transforms how people think and live. She is the author of Held: 31 Biblical Reflections on God’s Comfort and Care in the Sorrow of Miscarriage. Abbey lives on the South Carolina coast with her husband, David, and their three young sons. Find her online at abbeywedgeworth.com.

Julia B. Higgins (MDiv, PhD) is an Assistant Professor of Ministry to Women and Associate Dean of Graduate Program Administration at Southeastern Baptist Theological Seminary (SEBTS). She teaches in the Ministry to Women degree programs at Southeastern, with her ministry focus being college-aged and adult women. Julia is the author of the forthcoming Empowered and Equipped: Bible Exposition for Women Who Teach the Scriptures (Nov 2022, B&H Academic).

Kristin and Julia are the co-editors of The Whole Woman: Ministering to Her Heart, Soul, Mind, and Strength.

Karen Swallow Prior is the Research Professor of English and Christianity and Culture at Southeastern Baptist Theological Seminary. She is the author of Booked: Literature in the Soul of Me, Fierce Convictions: The Extraordinary Life of Hannah More—Poet, Reformer, Abolitionist, and On Reading Well: Finding the Good Life through Great Books. She is co-editor of Cultural Engagement: A Crash Course in Contemporary Issues and has contributed to numerous other books. She is the host of the popular podcast Jane and Jesus. Her most recent publications are Tess of the d'Urbervilles: A Guide to Reading and Reflecting and The Scarlet Letter: A Guide to Reading and Reflecting in the Read and Reflect with the Classics series from B&H Books. Previous volumes include the novels Frankenstein, Sense and Sensibility, Jane Eyre, and Heart of Darkness.

Barbara Reaoch, author of A Better Than Anything Christmas (2020), is the former Director of the Children’s Division at Bible Study Fellowship International. Home is in Minneapolis, Minnesota, with her husband Ron. Barb’s latest family devotional is A Jesus Easter (2022, The Good Book Co). You can connect with her at www.barbarareaoch.com and peruse her previous books.

Together they are the coauthors of Making Room for Her: Biblical Wisdom for a Healthier Relationship with Your Mother-In-Law or Daughter-in-Law (B&H publishing)

Aimee is an author, speaker, blogger, podcaster and former coffee shop owner. She’s the author of several books, including Housewife Theologian, Theological Fitness, No Little Women, Why Can’t We Be Friends, and Recovering from Biblical Manhood and Womanhood. Her latest book is The Sexual Reformation: Restoring the Dignity and Personhood of Man and Woman.

Ashley Hales (PhD, University of Edinburgh) is a writer, speaker, and host of the Finding Holy podcast. She is the author of Finding Holy in the Suburbs and her writing has been featured in Christianity Today and Books & Culture. Ashley is married to a pastor and the mother to four children. Her most recent book is A Spacious Life: Trading Hustle and Hurry for the Goodness of Limits. Find Ashley online at aahales.com, Twitter, Instagram, and Facebook.

Raleigh is an author and nonprofit leader. As the executive director of Let My People Go (lmpg.org), his passion is to see the local church fight human trafficking by loving those most vulnerable.

Bec McNew and her husband of 19 years have two wonderful children. After two decades focused on student ministry, they will be relocating to Lille, France with International Association for Refugees to serve forcibly displaced people along the Refugee Highway. Bec’s writings appear in Fathom, Women at Southern, textbooks, and on blogs. She authored and illustrated a young children’s book on the armor of God, Evie & Alistair: Farmhouse Warriors. To support the McNews' work with IAFR, go to this page and select "McNew" under the Missionary tab. You can connect with Bec on Instagram, Twitter, and Facebook.

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Courtney Moore is the founder and president of Women & Work, as well as co-host of the Women & Work Podcast. She holds a B.A. in Religious Studies from the University of Mobile and an M.A. in Biblical Counseling from The Southern Baptist Theological Seminary. Courtney is passionate about seeing Jesus Christ honored by women as they steward their gifts and leverage their unique potential for His glory. She has been married to Brent for 15 years. They have 3 great kids and live in El Paso, TX where Brent pastors LIFEchurch.

Susan Hunt and Sharon Betters — Sharon and Susan are the co-authors of Aging with Grace: Flourishing in an Anti-Aging Culture.

Susan Hunt is the widow of pastor Gene Hunt, a mother, a grandmother, and the former director of women’s ministries for the Presbyterian Church in America. Hunt has written over 20 books, including Spiritual Mothering.

Kat Harris is the host of The Refined Collective Podcast, author of Sexless in the City, and Founder of the online publication The Refined Woman. In everything she does, her goal is to create a safe space to have honest and layered conversations around faith, sexuality, relationships, culture, identity, and everything in-between. Find Kat on Instagram at @therefinedwoman and @therefinedcollective.

David and Krista Dunham are the co-authors of Table for Two: Biblical Counsel for Eating Disorders. Krista Dunham has served as a women’s mentor, biblical counselor, and curriculum developer for various women’s and children’s ministries. She has a degree in early childhood education from Ohio University. Krista suffered from an eating disorder for many years and has been privileged to share her story of recovery and transformation at many women’s events. David is a pastor and biblical counselor at Cornerstone Baptist Church in Roseville, MI. He is the author of Addictive Habits: Changing for Good and can be found online through his website and Twitter. David and Krista have three children and live in Michigan.

Anna LeBaron — One of more than fifty children of infamous, polygamist cult leader, Ervil LeBaron, Anna LeBaron endured abandonment, horrific living conditions, child labor, and sexual grooming. At age thirteen, she escaped the violent cult, gave her life to Christ, and sought healing. Her book, The Polygamist’s Daughter: A Memoir, was published in 2017. A gifted speaker, social media coach, book launch expert, and personal growth activist, Anna is passionate about helping others walk in freedom. She lives in the Dallas-Fort Worth Metroplex and loves being Mom to five grown children and Yaya to her first grandchild. Find more about Anna at annalebaron.com.

Kerri Rawson is the New York Times bestselling author of A Serial Killer’s Daughter: My Story of Faith, Love, and Overcoming. A memoir based on her life as the daughter of Dennis Rader, better known to the world as the serial killer BTK. Since her father’s arrest, Kerri has been advocating for victims of abuse, crime, and trauma, sharing her journey of hope, healing, faith, and forgiveness. She lives with two kids and two cats in Florida.

Brooke McGlothlin has encouraged thousands of moms toward a richer prayer life for over a decade. She is the co-founder of Million Praying Moms, a popular online ministry that exists to help moms make prayer their first and best response to the challenges of parenting. Brooke is the author of several books and resources for moms, including Praying Mom: Making Prayer the First and Best Response to Motherhood. She lives in the mountains of southwest Virginia with her husband and their two sons. Learn more at millionprayingmoms.com.

Kari Minter is the creator and founder of kariminter.com where she writes and creates resources to help women cultivate a deeper walk with God. In addition, she works for the Baptist Convention of Iowa as a church planters’ spousal advocate. Kari is also in her second year of seeking her master’s degree in Theological Studies through Midwestern Baptist Theological Seminary. In addition to her professional life, she is a mom to 3 kids, ages 12-15, and a wife to Brent, the lead pastor at Keystone Church of Ankeny. Kari would love to meet you on Instagram and Facebook.

Wendy Alsup lives on an old family farm in South Carolina, where she teaches math at a local community college and is a mother to her two boys. She is the author of Practical Theology for Women, The Gospel-Centered Woman, Is the Bible Good for Women?, and Companions in Suffering. Her next book, I Forgive You: Finding Peace and Moving Forward When Life Really Hurts, releases January 1 from The Good Book Company. Wendy also writes at her website, theologyforwomen.org.

Gretchen Ronnevik lives on a farm in Minnesota with her husband and 6 loud, funny, smart, and crazy kids (3 girls and 3 boys), which she’s homeschooled the last 11 years. Grethcen began writing in college, as she majored in English and studied literature, writing, and publishing. She merged her technical writing skills for a few years with my love of knitting and wrote some knitting patterns that still sell decently well today. Gretchen’s most recent book is Ragged: Spiritual Disciplines for the Spiritually Exhausted. Find more of Gretchen's writing at gretchenronnevik.com.

Katelyn Beaty joins Elyse and Eric for a conversation about her forthcoming book Celebrities for Jesus: How Platforms, Profits, and Personas Are Hurting the Church (Brazos Press). Katelyn is an acquisitions editor and the author of A Woman's Place: A Christian Vision for Your Calling in the Office, the Home, and the World. Learn more about Katelyn at KatelynBeaty.com.