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Robert Powell is a co-founder and Executive Board Member of the Scientific Coalition for UAP Studies. He served as Director of Research at MUFON from 2007-2017 and created their Science Review Board. Robert holds a BS in Chemistry and co-holds four patents related to nanotechnology from his years managing Research and Development of semiconductors at AMD. 

 We discuss his excellent book "UFOs: A Scientist Explains What We Know (And Don't Know)," including what UAP science must do next, what might account for some of the extraordinary behavior of UAP, and how and whether we should attempt to communicate with potential NHI.  

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Dr. Knuth is a Full Professor in the Department of Physics at the University at Albany (SUNY) and the Editor-in-Chief of the journal Entropy (MDPI). He holds various positions leading and consulting with almost every major UFO organization, including UAPX, SCU, SUAPS, The Sol Foundation, IFEX and The Galileo Project.  

Kevin worked for four years at NASA Ames Research Center in the Intelligent Systems Division designing artificial intelligence algorithms for astrophysical data analysis. He has over 20 years of experience in applying Bayesian and maximum entropy methods to the design of machine learning algorithms for data analysis applied to the physical sciences. His current research interests include the foundations of physics, quantum information, inference and inquiry, autonomous robotics, and the search for and characterization of extrasolar planets. He has published over 90 peer-reviewed publications and has been invited to give over 80 presentations in 14 countries. 

https://www.albany.edu/physics/faculty/kevin-knuth

We discuss his work on UFO science, including these two papers:

Estimating the Flight Characteristics of Anomalous Unidentified Aerial Vehicles
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7514271/

Simulating the characteristics of extra-terrestrial civilizations that encounter Earth 
https://knuthlab.org/papers/knuth---kavli-2024---galactic-colonization.pdf

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Rich Hoffman celebrated 60 years of UFO investigation in 2024. He's an IT consultant and strategist, and a defense contractor with Army Material Command. One of the first members of MUFON, he rose through the ranks to serve as Director of Investigations, Star Team Manager, Director of Strategic Projects, and State Director for multiple states. 

Rich founded the Scientific Coalition for UAP Studies to connect scientists around the world and apply rigorous research methods to the investigation of UFOs and their properties. He's contributed directly to several deep-dive research papers about both particular UAP events and the broader patterns revealed in high-quality historical data. 

Rich tells us about his career, takes us on a detailed tour through the scientific work of SCU, and previews upcoming developments in the field. 

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Dr. Brannon Wheeler teaches history of religion, Middle East, and the Bible at the United States Naval Academy in Annapolis. He's authored and edited several books on these topics, including Mecca and Eden: Ritual, Relics, and Territory in Islam (Chicago, 2016) and Animal Sacrifice and the Origins of Islam (Cambridge, 2022). Professor Wheeler received his PhD from the University of Chicago and has held visiting positions throughout the Middle East and Europe. 

We discuss the overlap between religious mythology and UFO experiences, the potential nature of communication with advanced psychic beings, and the path forward for academic engagement with the wide-ranging implications of UAP.

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Kevin Wright is a public relations and communications expert. He focuses on edge science issues and advises the Scientific Coalition for UAP Studies’ (SCU) Board of Directors on public affairs and public relations and is a consultant to Daniel Sheehan’s New Paradigm Institute. Wright is also a weekly columnist for the Roswell Daily Record. 

Wright’s company Solve Advocacy helps clients navigate the complex and evolving landscape of public perception, media attention, and policy implications related to topics such as UAP, consciousness, and more.

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Birdie is amazing. She founded ABQ UFOs, which is one of the largest volunteer organizations of UFO enthusiasts, and she's among the most accomplished civilian remote viewers. We discuss her work and experience in both areas here, and look closely at the places where UFOs and remote viewing intersect.

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John and Gerry Tedesco are likely the world's most experienced civilian UAP trackers. They've logged hundreds of hours of data collection in their mobile lab Nightcrawler units with dozens of high-quality sensor instruments, including advanced radar equipment for which they acquired a special license.

We discuss their history as electrical engineers, their UAP observation work so far, their harrowing close encounter, and their plans for future projects.

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Jim Garrison directs the Washington DC operations of New Paradigm Institute. We discuss how disclosure will impact the rhythms of human history, how humans can start processing the presence of nonhuman intelligence, and how New Paradigm is preparing to help us communicate with our visitors.

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Renate Erdal is the leader of UFO Norway, a construction project manager, and a Captain in the Norwegian Army Reserves.

We talk about UFO Norway's activities, Norwegian UFO history, how to make disclosure a healthy process, and what we'd like to ask the NHI.

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Dr. Michael Glawson is a philosopher, consultant and podcast host. His teaching and research subjects include the philosophies of religion, technology and science. 

We discuss next steps for UAP studies, the conceptual challenges of engaging with advanced life forms, and what might happen when we learn more about the broad range of phenomena to which UAP connect. 

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Stephanie Dwilson is a licensed attorney with a master's in science in science and technology journalism.

She founded The Verified Report to cover UAP news from a serious, unbiased perspective. Check out her work here: https://theverifiedreport.com/

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Stephen Bassett is the first UFO disclosure lobbyist. He's been working to end the military truth embargo on UAP for over 20 years. 

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Stephen Bassett has spoken to audiences in 20 countries about the political implications of UAP/ET phenomena and Disclosure - the formal confirmation by heads of state of an extraterrestrial presence engaging the human race. He is co-founder of the Hollywood Disclosure Alliance and executive director of Paradigm Research Group, a 501c3 non-profit providing education, consulting, analysis and political activism for a post-Disclosure world. 

His advocacy work has been well covered by national and international media including CNN, Fox News, MSNBC, Washington Post and New York Times. Bassett has appeared in many documentary films and his lectures and interviews are well represented on YouTube. 

In 2013 PRG organized and conducted a "Citizen Hearing on Disclosure" at the National Press Club in Washington. In November of 2014 PRG launched a two-year political initiative out of Washington, DC that injected the ET issue into the 2016 presidential campaign. 

In December 2023, Steve Co-Founded The Hollywood Disclosure Alliance in Los Angeles, a new, media-centric organization aiming to align those working within the UAP/ET research arena with writers/directors/producers working across every facet of the global entertainment industry. 

PRG recently launched an activist project - Shift Storm - seeking UAP hearings as soon as possible before the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence. 

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PRG Media coverage: https://paradigmresearchgroup.org/prg-media-coverage/ 

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Dr. Cifone is an accomplished philosopher of science and the founder of the Society for UAP Studies: https://www.societyforuapstudies.org/ 

He also edits the Society's peer-reviewed journal Limina: https://limina.uapstudies.org/ 

We discuss the philosophy of science, the project of approaching UAP in contemporary science, the unique challenges and opportunities it poses as a subject, and a wide array of related topics. 

It's our furthest ranging and longest episode yet. We hope you enjoy! 

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Andy McGrillen hosts That UFO Podcast, our favorite podcast about UFOs. We talk about ontological resilience, hypotheses for the phenomenon, and the upcoming goals of ufology.

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This audio essay is an invitation to folks who consider themselves rational thinkers. The independent intellectual community is well positioned to lead on UFOs. If you're still hesitant about engaging with this topic, I'll help you reexamine your priors with some clear, objective evidence. Please feel free to contact me on X if you'd like to chat!

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After 80 years of research, reporting and media, ufology is still a nascent field. Both professionally and personally, it has a long way to go. 

Today, it faces three main goals. The first is to establish its reason for existing, which is to say convincing people it's worth investigating at all. 

The second is to help people navigate the intense worldview disruptions that accompany the information that UFOs are in fact real. 

The third is to explore the nature of that reality, from historical research to scientific and spiritual understanding to diplomatic and military engagement. 

That can all feel overwhelming, so it helps to peel it apart a bit. We talk calmly through these three elements here to help encourage a grounded approach as we all move forward in this field together. 

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We talk with Dr. Steven Brown of Ohio State University about applying philosophy to UFOs, the nature of the phenomenon, the coverup and widespread denial, converging structural challenges, and how to help people process the biggest intellectual transition in human history. 

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Here are some things we mention in the show: 

Dr. Brown’s YouTube Channel
https://www.youtube.com/@stevenbrownphilosophy

That UFO Podcast Interview
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qin_JjLvJDI

New Paradigm Institute
https://newparadigminstitute.org/ 

The Sol Foundation
https://thesolfoundation.org/

UAP Caucus
https://www.uapcaucus.com/ 

UAP Disclosure Fund
https://www.uapdisclosurefund.org/ 

Pascal’s Wager
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pascal%27s_wager 

William James - The Will to Believe
https://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/26659 

Lara Buchak - Faith and Traditions
https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1111/nous.12427 

Mutually Exclusive, Collectively Exhaustive Dichotomies
https://strategyu.co/wtf-is-mece-mutually-exclusive-collectively-exhaustive/ 

The UAP Disclosure Act
https://www.congress.gov/amendment/118th-congress/senate-amendment/2610/text 

Kevin Knuth’s Sol Video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&si=0IZEkOlaOWEp1S-B&v=HlYwktOj75A 

Leslie Kean - UFOs
https://amzn.to/4dPhJ6v  (Amazon Affiliate Link)

Richard Dolan - UFOs and the National Security State 
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Nick Bostrom - Superintelligence
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Thich Nhat Hanh - How to Sit
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Thomas Kuhn - The Structure of Scientific Revolutions
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Dean Radin - Real Magic
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The logical argument that UFOs are non-human objects is extremely strong. 

The very short version goes like this: 

1. UFOs demonstrate advanced propulsion 
2. UFOs have been doing that for 80 years 
3. It's extremely unlikely that humans invented advanced propulsion in the 1940s 
4. It's extremely likely that UFOs are non-human 

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The UFO phenomenon has huge implications for almost every field of human endeavor. We consider the biggest areas of impact.

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We wrote this episode for people new to UFOs, and for UFO enthusiasts looking for better ways to talk to skeptical friends and family members. 

We mention a large number of sources, so for full quotes and links to original documents, check out the article version of this episode here:  https://wtufo.com/ufo-probability-logic/ 

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