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107. Chris Slusarenko Discusses The Fall, Perverted by Language

70 min • 19 mars 2023

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Chris Slusarenko of the Portland-based band Eyelids joins Al to talk about The Fall’s 1983 album, Perverted by Language, and their “Kicker Conspiracy” single, which was released in the same year. Chris explains how he wound up getting up obsessed with The Fall, why he chose to focus on these particular records for this episode and how The Fall has influenced his own creative process. He also talks about Eyelids’ recently-released fourth album, A Colossal Waste of Light, and the experience of being produced by and touring with Peter Buck.


Chris made repeated reference to The Annotated Fall, which lists and, yes, annotates the lyrics to The Fall’s songs. If you’re new to The Fall like Al is (or probably even if you’re not), it’s an indispensable resource. http://annotatedfall.doomby.com/pages/the-annotated-lyrics/


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1:19 Chris joins the show

1:26 Chris talks about the importance of music in his family

3:21 Chris explains the origins of the title of Eyelids’ new album

6:23 Chris discusses how he got obsessed with The Fall

9:29 Chris walks through the various stages of The Fall’s discography

12:29 “Eat Y’self Fitter” exemplifies many of the things Chris loves about Perverted by Language

18:38 There’s a lot one can read about The Fall

20:17 Why was Mark E. Smith singing about computers in 1983?

22:22 The Fall isn’t for everybody

23:17 Chris addresses the similarities between The Fall and Pavement

24:43 Al talks about his initial impressions of Perverted by Language

26:55 Chris sees Perverted by Language as a transitional album

28:51 Chris and Al disagree as to how cohesive the album is

31:36 Chris talks about The Fall’s frequent changes in personnel

34:05 Chris is impressed by the confidence of The Fall on Perverted by Language

37:48 Chris has trouble picking a favorite track

40:49 Al and Chris admire Steve Hanley’s bass playing

43:58 Chris talks about the “Kicker Conspiracy/Wings” single

48:24 Chris doesn’t think The Fall sold out after Perverted by Language

49:56 Chris suggests some other albums by The Fall for Al to explore

52:56 Chris appreciates Mark E. Smith’s lyrics

54:14 Chris clarifies a misheard lyric for Al

57:03 Eyelids took a different approach to songwriting for A Colossal Waste of Light

1:00:55 Chris talks about Peter Buck’s involvement on A Colossal Waste of Light

1:05:41 Chris discusses Eyelids’ current tour


Outro is from “That’s Not Real At All (B. Midweek Pg. 207)” by Eyelids.

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