30. Michael Govier Discusses Built to Spill, Keep It Like a Secret

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Fantasy baseball analyst and podcaster Michael Govier comes aboard this week to share his love for Built to Spill’s 1999 album, Keep It Like a Secret. Michael and Al talked about Michael’s various podcasts, how his love for listening to and playing music has grown and waned and grown again over the years, and how he came to be a fan of this Boise-based band and this particular album.

Note: Michael and Al discussed the lyrics to Broken Chairs but did not mention that they were not written by Doug Martsch, but by the poet Uhuru Black. According Genius.com, Black was a friend of members of Built to Spill, and had no relation to the reggae band, Black Uhuru.

Another note: Al mentioned that he has been taking drum lessons via Zoom from Sara Lund, who was the drummer for Unwound and several other bands. If you are considering learning drums, Sara is an outstanding teacher. Check out her website here! http://www.saralundrum.com/

Here’s where you can find all of Michael’s various projects…

RotoFanatic: https://rotofanatic.com/

Hey It’s Enrico Pallazzo Fantasy Baseball (@pallazzopodcast on Twitter): https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/hey-its-enrico-pallazzo-fantasy-baseball/id1479953993

First Day (@FirstDayPod): https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCzXlTCikAUUYpeI1yovjmPQ/featured

Cinema 9 Pod (@Cinema9Pod): https://linktr.ee/Cinema9

Is It Safe? Podcast: https://www.audible.com/pd/Is-It-Safe-Podcast/B08K55ZL7L

Michael is a great follow on Twitter. If you’re not following him at @mjgovier, you’re missing out!

Al is merely ok on Twitter, and you can find him there at @almelchiorBB. You should definitely follow him at @youmealbum, because that’s where he announces upcoming guests and albums ahead of time.

1:06 Michael joins the show

2:53 Michael could be adding voiceover work to his résumé

5:36 How did Michael start each of his four podcasts?

10:04 Michael has been playing drums since the eighth grade

12:42 Michael comes from a musical family

13:34 Yancy Eaton (a friend of the show!) rekindled Michael’s passion for music

14:36 Michael talks about the bands he’s played in

16:30 Michael names a couple of his favorite drummers

18:21 Which tracks on Keep It Like a Secret are Michael’s favorites to drum along with?

20:40 Michael fell in love with Keep It Like a Secret while listening to it on the way to band practice

24:36 Al has gotten sucked into a Portland music vortex

26:58 Keep It Like a Secret didn’t fit Al’s expectations

29:22 Keep It Like a Secret reminded Al of Aeroplane Over the Sea in some ways

34:10 Michael and Al share some misheard lyrics

36:42 Keep It Like a Secret is a guitar-heavy album

Track-by-track breakdown:

38:59 The Plan

42:57 Center of the Universe

45:21 Carry The Zero

50:40 Sidewalk

52:50 Bad Light

56:14 Time Trap

1:02:01 Else

1:06:37 You Were Right

1:10:39 Temporarily Blind

1:12:14 Broken Chairs

1:17:37 Al is really enjoying catching up on late ‘90s/early ‘00s indie rock

1:19:58 Nostalgia can be important to building a connection with an album

1:24:58 Michael alerts us to a new music podcast

1:26:34 Michael’s thoughts on Built to Spill’s legacy

1:33:03 An addendum to the show

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