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Broken Record with Rick Rubin, Malcolm Gladwell, Bruce Headlam and Justin Richmond

Broken Record with Rick Rubin, Malcolm Gladwell, Bruce Headlam and Justin Richmond

From Rick Rubin, Malcolm Gladwell, Bruce Headlam, and Justin Richmond. The musicians you love talk about their life, inspiration, and craft. Then play.


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Broken Record Presents: Questlove Supreme with Rick Rubin

Rick Rubin joins Questlove and crew on their Questlove Supreme podcast. They discuss Rick's early Def Jam days, working with the Geto Boys, his process for taking on production work and so much more! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit
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Broken Record Presents: Aim Higher

Broken Record Presents: Aim Higher ? the last episode of Against the Rules Season 2. Can everyone be coached ? or are some people beyond help? The transformative power of coaching is put to the test as Michael enlists a coach to help him tackle his greatest fear. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit
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Huey Lewis

Back to the Future is turning 35 and there's no better way to celebrate than a conversation with Huey Lewis who turned in one of the more memorable movie themes of all time: "The Power of Love." The song was a sensation when it was released, propelling Huey Lewis and the News further than even their hit album Sports had. Bruce Headlam talks to Huey Lewis about how this song came together and mines form him some wild stories about his family, upbringing and success. Subscribe to Broken Record's YouTube channel to hear old and new interviews, often with bonus content: You can also check out past episodes here: Learn more about your ad choices. Visit
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Beastie Boys and Spike Jonze

It's been nearly 35 years since the Beastie Boys released their classic debut album, Licensed To Ill. In this candid conversation, Rick Rubin, who started out as the Beastie's DJ, reconnects with Mike D and Ad-Rock. Spike Jonze, who directed the new Beastie Boys documentary, Beastie Boys Story, also sits in and plays moderator. It's been nearly 20 years since Ad-Rock and Rick have talked and like old friends, they jump right into a slew of inside jokes and hilarious memories of their lives leading up to the release of Licensed to Ill. Subscribe to Broken Record's YouTube channel to hear old and new interviews, often with bonus content: You can also check out past episodes here: Learn more about your ad choices. Visit
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Lucinda Williams

Lucinda Williams is defying convention. While most of her peers have settled into a well worn groove, the alt-country icon just released an album that's way more punk than country. She spoke with Bruce Headlam from her home in Nashville about her evolving sound and how her new album was influenced by politics and an abusive relationship. She also plays a few acoustic versions of her new songs. Subscribe to Broken Record's YouTube channel to hear old and new interviews, often with bonus content: You can also check out past episodes here: Learn more about your ad choices. Visit
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RZA Talks Wu-Tang and Creativity In Quarantine

Rick Rubin checks in with RZA on Zoom and finds out he's been peaking creatively while in quarantine. Their wide-ranging conversation covers RZA's first experiences with Hip Hop, ODB's parkour-like skills as a child, the spontaneity of classic Wu-Tang recording sessions, and how RZA almost gave up all of his earthly possessions to live with monks in China's Wudang Mountains. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit
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Broken Record Presents: The Limits of Power

Malcolm has been writing about race and policing for a very long time, going back to the killing of Amadou Diallo in 1999. Sometimes, it is useful to take a step back and consider policing in a broader context. Here we present a chapter from Malcolm's book David and Goliath, which includes an analysis of a riot in Northern Ireland in 1970. Many miles and many years away. About divisions of religion and class and not divisions of race. But the core questions to be asked in 1970 and 1999 and today are the same: if you have power, what does it mean to use it, and use it wisely? And what are the consequences if you don't? David and Goliath: Underdogs, Misfits and the Art of Battling Giants was published in 2013 by Little, Brown and Company. Audiobook production by Hachette Audio. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit
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Nick Lowe

Nick Lowe wrote the classic "(What's So Funny 'Bout) Peace, Love, and Understanding" (made famous by Elvis Costello), produced one of the UK's first punk records ("New Rose" by the Damned), and started one of the great independent record labels (Stiff Records). In this episode Bruce Headlam talks to him about producing the first five Elvis Costello records, marrying into Johnny Cash's family and his hilarious first encounter with the great Keith Richards. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit
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Jason Isbell

Jason Isbell is one of the most important Southern voices in music today. He started writing and releasing his own songs in 2007, after a stint with the Drive By Truckers. Since then has slowly built a catalogue of songs and a resume?which includes a key songwriting contribution to Bradley Cooper's version of A Star Is Born?that should put him on anyone's short list of the best songwriters currently working. Isbell and Rick Rubin met for the first time just before this conversation where they discuss Isbell's recovery from addiction, his song writing process and his deep Southern roots. To checkout Jason Isbell's new album Reunions head to You can also listen to past?often extended?episodes of Broken Record by subscribing to our YouTube channel at Learn more about your ad choices. Visit
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PREVIEW: Against the Rules Season 2

Previewing the first episode of Against the Rules Season 2 by Michael Lewis (Moneyball, The Big Short, The Blind Side): It wasn?t that long ago that coaches were confined to sports. Now they?re everywhere. You can hire a life coach or a death coach, an executive coach, a dating coach, even a charisma coach. Journalist and bestselling author Michael Lewis asks who?s getting all this coaching, and who isn?t? Lewis brings his wry wit and mastery of storytelling to topics as diverse as sports, consumer finance, college, and firefighting ?  to understand what the rise of coaching means for all of us.In a seven-episode season, Against the Rules takes listeners from the home of a single mom in the mountains of Colorado, the classrooms of the Harvard Business School, to a data-driven ?Bionic Man? facility for baseball pitchers. He speaks with a celebrity voice coach, an analyst who grades sales calls, and a startup founder who's coaching consumers out of credit-card debt. Along the way, he also revisits the controversial methods of his own high-school baseball coach. Through conversations both amusing and horrifying, Lewis explores the rise of coaching in America and what it says about unfairness.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit
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Tame Impala

Rick Rubin talks to Tame Impala's Kevin Parker about his newest release, The Slow Rush, and his creative process. Kevin shares key influences on some Tame Impala songs and also plays Rick a demo for an unrealized song from his voice memos. Then Kevin turns the tables on Rick, asking about his work on Californication and Yeezus, which yields sage advice on record making. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit
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Drive-By Truckers

Drive-By Truckers play music from and talk about their twelfth album, The Unraveling. The band of Alabamans?represented here by Mike Cooley and Patterson Hood?discuss how the political climate shaped the themes of their latest record. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit
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Richard Russell on Building the Greatest Indie Label Ever

XL Recordings has released music from Adele, Tyler the Creator, MIA, Dizzee Rascal, Radiohead, The White Stripes, King Krule and many other beloved, boundary-pushing artists. Richard Russell has been with the label since its early days and at the helm since '96. He talks with Rick Rubin about the origin of their friendship, which dates back to the earliest days of XL, and how the label grew from a small electronic label into the greatest Indie of all time. Russell also talks about his career as a producer, which includes the last albums of both Gil Scott-Heron and Bobby Womack. Richard Russell has a new album out under his moniker Everything Is Recorded, you can check it out here: And to get his newly released book with traces the history of XL Recordings head to Learn more about your ad choices. Visit
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BONUS: David Blaine with Rick Rubin

Rick Rubin, like all of us, has been thinking a lot about fear lately. And few people on the planet understand fear in the same way that Rick's good friend, David Blaine, does. David has made a career of pushing his mind and body to the limit. So Rick thought David might be a great person to talk to about facing fear. Ok obviously this conversation isn?t about music. But it does touch on one of Rick?s other great loves?magic. When he was a kid, Rick studied magic. Since then magic has become so much more than sleight of hand for him ? he uses the idea of pulling something out of nothing when he?s making music. So it makes sense that he would turn to one of the best living magicians for words of wisdom. To check out David Blaine's latest special visit: Learn more about your ad choices. Visit
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Alicia Keys

Alicia Keys talks with Malcolm Gladwell via Zoom about her newly released book, More Myself: A Journey and how writing it influenced her upcoming album, Alicia. You can order her book at And to find out more about her upcoming album (and tour) you can visit Learn more about your ad choices. Visit
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Glen Hansard

Irish singer-songwriter Glen Hansard, and star of the movie Once, talks to Bruce Headlam about his newest solo album, "This Wild Willing" and how he nearly sampled a Queen and David Bowie jam unwittingly. Find the playlist for this episode at Learn more about your ad choices. Visit
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BONUS: Guided Meditation with Jack Kornfield

Rick Rubin talks with his friend, world-renowned Buddhist and meditation teacher, Jack Kornfield. He's long been one of the most influential figures in American Buddhism. He connects with Rick by Zoom to guide him and you through a couple of different guided meditations. A gift for these stressful times. You can find the first of those meditations at 8:00 and the second meditation at 42:32. And if you're interested in learning more about meditation or Jack's work you can visit Learn more about your ad choices. Visit
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John Legend

During these tough times, Rick Rubin wanted to have a chat with an artist he finds inspiring. Top of mind was John Legend. So he called him up via Zoom, while both were sheltering in place, for a quick chat about his career and the creative process behind two of his biggest songs. Plus they discuss the song Legend is currently obsessed with. This is our first remote recording, so it's a little shorter and a little more lo-fi than usual. Make sure to listen to John Legend's new single "Actions" and check for a new album later this year: Learn more about your ad choices. Visit
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Nathaniel Rateliff

Nathaniel Rateliff talks to Bruce Headlam about his new solo album, And It?s Still Alright, a deeply intimate project that reflects on the loss of his former producer and good friend Richard Swift. Nathaniel plays songs off his new record and recounts his journey as a musician, starting with his family?s gospel band up until his recent success as the frontman of the critically-acclaimed group, The Nightsweats. Nathaniel Rateliff made an awesome playlist of his favorite songs you can listen to here: To see about when you can catch him on the road head to Learn more about your ad choices. Visit
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Bob Weir of the Grateful Dead

The Grateful Dead's Bob Weir talks to Rick Rubin about why the legendary band was never focused on their studio recordings, and how they were always more interested in seeing where their live shows would take them. Bob also plays a new song from an opera he's writing and tells Rick about a recent dream where he and Jerry Garcia performed a new song that materialized into a room-sized sheep dog. Bob Weir's Jug Band Playlist & our favorite Weir songs: Check for updates to Bob's touring schedule here:!/events?page=1 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit
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Esperanza Spalding

Bassist, songwriter, and composer Esperanza Spalding sits with Bruce Headlam to discuss her latest work and the opera she?s writing with the legendary saxophonist Wayne Shorter. They also discuss why Esperanza shies away from being labeled a prodigy, what it?s like jamming at Joni Mitchell's house, and how, despite her improvisational approach, she?s so much more than just a jazz musician. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit
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Run The Jewels

Run the Jewels recently took a (smoke) break while working on their fourth album at Shangri-La and taped this podcast with Rick Rubin. Killer Mike and El-P tell Rick about the music that first caught their imaginations as kids, how Run-DMC inspired their philosophy as a group, and who would be the court jester?and who would be a tribe leader?in their post-apocalyptic fantasy world. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit
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James Taylor Comes Clean

James Taylor's voice sounds sweet and carefree. It's a gift that hides the darker side to his lyrics and life. He and Malcolm Gladwell sat and uncovered some of the more troubling moments from his early life in this conversation. James also talks about it in his audio memoir, Break Shot, available now through Audible. They also discuss the beach music scene of the Carolinas and the music that got James interested in music. Some of those tunes are represented on his new album, American Standard. Where James reworks classics of the great American songbook. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit
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Darryl "DMC" McDaniels: The King of Rock

RUN DMC were the first rap group on the cover of Rolling Stone. The first to go gold, platinum and multi-platinum. They were true pioneers of Hip Hop in the 80?s, releasing classic albums like ?Raising Hell? and ?Tougher Than Leather? ? both collaborations with Rick Rubin. But by the 90s Hip Hop and changed. RUN DMC were struggling to find their way and so was Darryl ?DMC? McDaniels. The self-proclaimed "King of Rock" tells Rick that at one point, the only thing giving him the will to live, was a Sarah McLachlan song. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit
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Robbie Robertson: Leader of The Band and Architect of Shangri La

When Robbie Robertson turned a house perched above a Malibu beach into a home studio in the 1970's, he had no idea it'd remain a refuge for artists decades later. In this episode, Robbie returns to Shangri La?now the home of our own Rick Rubin?to discuss creating the studio, helping Bob Dylan go electric with The Band, writing "The Weight" and collaborating with Martin Scorsese on his films. "Once Were Brothers" a documentary about The Band, comes out in theaters on February 21st. Visit to see where you can catch it. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit
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Ozzy & Sharon Osbourne

Just before the release of his first solo album in over a decade, Ozzy Osbourne and his wife Sharon sat with Rick Rubin to talk about his tumultuous career that's spanned five decades. Friends since the early '80s, they discuss the early days of Black Sabbath, Ozzy's first encounter with his late guitarist Randy Rhoads, and how blown away Rick is by the power of Ozzy's voice at 71 years old. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit
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Booker T of the MG's: Time Is Tight

Booker T. Jones?as leader of Booker T. & the M.G.'s, Stax record's house band?helped popularize the sound of Southern soul music. Working alongside Stax legends like Isaac Hayes, Otis Redding, Carla Thomas, Albert King and more, his finger prints were everywhere. He details it all in his new book "Time Is Tight: My Life, Note By Note." He sat with Bruce Headlam in Brooklyn to discuss his time at Stax, including some of the great songs he had a hand in writing, and about his incredible career after leaving the label. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit
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Broken Record Presents: Slow Burn - Biggie and Tupac

Broken Record brings you Season 3, Episode 2 of the podcast Slow Burn. Season 3 is focused on the murders of rap legends Tupac and Biggie. This episode of the series dissects a time in the 1990s when rappers pushed America to confront police brutality?and police claimed rap lyrics were turning black listeners into cop-killers. Listen to more of this season and series at Learn more about your ad choices. Visit
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Broken Record Presents: Cautionary Tales - Bowie, Jazz and the Unplayable Piano

Broken Record presents an episode of "Cautionary Tales": Bowie, Jazz and the Unplayable Piano It was the biggest concert of Keith Jarrett's career - but the pianist was in for a shock when he entered Koln's opera house. The only piano at the venue was a broken-down wreck. Should he risk humiliation and play anyway or simply walk out? The collaboration between pop superstar David Bowie and arch disruptor Brian Eno offers a lesson that staying in your comfort zone isn't always the best option. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit
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Brittany Howard Goes Solo

Lead singer of the Alabama Shakes, Brittany Howard, talks to Rick Rubin about making her first solo album, Jamie. She shares a never before heard demo from the album and talks about her high school band days, The Shakes first live show, and how she's overcome serious bouts of writer's block with just about every project she's ever released. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit
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Andre 3000 and Rick Rubin In Conversation

Andre 3000 opens up to Rick Rubin in one of his most candid interviews ever. He talks about the early days of OutKast, how he first found his voice, how his mental health diagnosis has been both a blessing a curse, why it?s so hard for him to write new material, and why he would rather perform at flea markets these days than sold-out arenas. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit
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Bon Iver's Past and Present

Justin Vernon and producer Chris Messina from Bon Iver, discuss the new album "i,i" with Rick Rubin. Listen as they bond over their love for remote recording spaces, the importance of self care while making music, Justin?s love for the Indigo Girls, and how the ?90s cult classic TV show Northern Exposure helped inspire the creation of Bon Iver. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit
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FKA Twigs Heals with Magdalene

FKA Twigs and Rick Rubin dive deep into the creative journey that lead to Twigs? stunning new album, Magdalene. They cover the physical and emotional trauma that inspired the album, how she found solace in the brilliant musicians she collaborated with on the record, and how FKA Twigs? tireless attention to detail led her to make some of the most exciting music of her career. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit
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Flea: Acid For the Children

Flea sat with Malcolm Gladwell to discuss his newly released memoir, "Acid For the Children," for the very first live taping of Broken Record! The book is a journey through Flea's childhood: from Australia to the seedy streets of 1970's and 80's Los Angeles to the earliest incarnation of the Red Hot Chili Peppers. Flea brings his book to life in this intensely intimate conversation about his friendships with bandmates Anthony Kiedis and Hillel Slovak, the LA of his childhood and picks up the bass to walk through the evolution of his bass playing. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit
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Norah Jones Begins Again

Norah Jones sits with Malcolm Gladwell and Bruce Headlam at The Bridge Studio in New York to talk about ? and play through ? her latest album, Begin Again. The album is the result of a new way of working in the studio that's invigorated her. She discusses this new process, working with Jeff Tweedy and Danger Mouse and more! Oh, and her voice and playing are angelic. Visit: for more episodes! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit
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Leonard Cohen's Legacy with Adam Cohen: Thanks for the Dance

Leonard Cohen died three weeks after releasing his last record, You Want It Darker, in 2016. It was the first album he worked on this son, Adam. In mourning, Adam turned his attention to poem's of his father's that he recorded while putting that last record together. He then decided to set those poems to music. The result is Leonard Cohen's new album, Thanks for the Dace. Adam talks with Rick Rubin form Shangri La about his father's musical legacy, family life and how this album came together. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit
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The Black Keys: Dan Auerbach and Patrick Carney

Dan Auerbach and Patrick Carney join Rick Rubin at Shangri La to talk about their first tour in five years, scalpers screwing fans out of tickets, their new album?"Let's Rock"?and play some never before heard songs from their vault. Visit to listen to our playlist for this episode Learn more about your ad choices. Visit
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Brandi Carlile & Tanya Tucker

Brandi Carlile grew up adoring Tanya Tucker for her rebellious spirit. But it's that same nature that almost derailed Tanya's comeback album, "While I'm Livin," co-produced by Brandi. Tanya quit the album multiple times during its making. Leaving Brandi no choice but to summon Rick Rubin to help right-ship. You'll hear this story and tons of great road stories from one of country music's living-legends and one of its fastest rising talents. Here's Brandi, Tanya and Rick from Shangri La in Malibu. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit
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Rex Orange County Is Major

Rick Rubin sits with 21 year old British songwriter Rex Orange County to discuss his major label debut, "Pony." While Rex is still mostly performs solo on the record (aside from some expert bass playing by Pino Palladino and some vocals courtesy of his girlfriend), the album is a departure from the DIY sound that earned him his following on his early, self-released records Learn more about your ad choices. Visit
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Wyclef Jean Goes Back To School

Wyclef Jean, who's had solo hits and with the Fugees, and produced hits for Destiny's Child, Shakira, and Carlos Santana came back this year with a new project, "Wyclef Goes Back To School." Every song is a collaboration with college-aged musicians?his way of giving back but also appealing to a whole new generation of kids. Host and producer Justin Richmond \talks to Wyclef about his latest effort, about his childhood in Haiti, moving to the U.S. and reflects on his own childhood listening to the Fugees. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit
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Yola's Walk Through Fire

After years honing her craft in the UK Yola finally lands with her beautiful album, "Walk Through Fire." Produced by the Black Keys' Dan Auerbach, the album combines classic country, soul and rock and roll. Bruce Headlam talks to Yola about her journey to this album. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit
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Tyler the Creator Talks Igor

Tyler, the Creator spent three days this summer in Italy with Rick Rubin. At the end of the three days they sat down to record a conversation about Tyler's new album, "Igor". They play through some tracks off the album and Tyler even plays some piano. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit
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Jack White & Brendan Benson of the Raconteurs

Jack White and Brendan Benson of the Raconteurs play through some songs off their new record, "Help Me Stranger" and talk with Malcolm Gladwell from Jack's Detroit home. Rick Rubin joins by phone. Jack talks through his theory that references to modern technology don't work in modern Rock and Roll, what they've picked up as a band by living in Nashville, how perfect performances can sometimes be unconvincing, the songwriting process on the new record & more! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit
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Broken Record Season 3 ... Is Coming!

From Rick Rubin, Malcolm Gladwell and Bruce Headlam: Conversations. Stories. Remembering old music. Discovering new music. Broken Record Season 3: Coming to your podcast feed on October 1st. Featuring: Jack White, Tyler, the Creator, Brittany Howard, Jason Isbell, Andre 3000, The Black Keys, Bon Iver, Kenny Beats, the xx, Norah Jones, Glen Hansard and more! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit
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In a Metal Mood: A Broken Record and Revisionist History Crossover Episode

A Broken Record/Revisionist History crossover episode on cultural appropriation. The case study is Taco Bell. Oh, and Pat Boone is involved. And so is our old friend, Dave Hill. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit
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Vampire Weekend Returns: Ezra Koenig with Ariel Rechtshaid

Vampire Weekend returned this month with their first record in six years, "Father of the Bride". And long before it sat on top of the Billboard album chart, the band's leader, Ezra Koenig and producer Ariel Rechtshaid stopped by Shangri La Studios in Malibu to talk with Malcolm and Rick. Ezra explained how he and Ariel have been laboring over the new album, re-working some songs hundreds of times before finally feeling like they got it right. To listen to the full album, go to Learn more about your ad choices. Visit
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J.S. Ondara: Knockin' on America's Door

Bruce Headlam discovered J.S. Ondara listening to his car radio late last year. And with a great showing at South By Southwest and a spot opening for Neil Young this summer, it seems like the rest of America is  discovering him too. In this episode of Broken Record, J.S. Ondara talks about leaving his native Kenya six years ago for Minnesota ? the home of his idol, Bob Dylan ? and creating his debut album, "Tales of America". Learn more about your ad choices. Visit
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Linda Perry: Making Hits Her Way

Linda Perry is one of the only women considered a go-to producer in the music industry. After finding success with her band 4 Non Blondes and their ubiquitous single, "What's Up?" (1992) Perry went on to write and produce for other artists. She?s worked with Alicia Keys, Gwen Stefani, Celine Dion, Adele, James Blunt, Britney Spears. And reinvented the careers of Pink and Christina Aguilera. Most recently she wrote with and produced a Dolly Parton record for the Netflix movie Dumplin? ? which earned her a nomination for Producer of the Year, Non-Classical at this year's Grammys (she was the first woman nominated in 15 years). Learn more about your ad choices. Visit
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T Bone Burnett: Perfection Is Second-Rate

T Bone Burnett helped launch the careers of Los Lobos, Counting Crows, Gillian Welch; revive the careers of Roy Orbison and Robert Plant; course-correct Elvis Costello?s career in the mid-eighties and just recently produced a beautiful record by Sara Bareilles. Of course, there?s all of his film work as well. But while visiting Rick Rubin, himself a legendary producer and co-host of Broken Record, T Bone said he has stopped producing other artists. Instead he?s focusing on releasing his own music. "Invisible Light: Acoustic Space" an electronic infused song cycle was just released. T Bone says he has three double records ready to come out behind it. In this episode of Broken Record, from Shangri La Studios in Malibu, T Bone Burnett premiers two brand new songs on his acoustic guitar for us, talks about his pivot towards songwriting and chats about his famed career. "Invisible Light: Acoustic Space" is available now wherever you get your music. To keep up to date on T Bone check out Also check out our website - - follow us on Instagram - @TheBrokenRecordPod - and subscribe and rate us if you like what you hear! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit
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Pentatonix: The Art of A Cappella

Malcolm Gladwell, along with guest-host, Daisy Rosario, talks with the five members of Pentatonix from GSI Studios in NYC. The quintet, who got their start on YouTube, discuss their approach to arranging a cappella versions of pop songs, writing original music, their collaboration with Dolly Parton and so much more! Pentatonix kick off their summer tour of the U.S. in Oakland this May 11. Go to for details and for a playlist of songs we've curated of the group! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit
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