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Author Daniela Richterova new book "Watching the Jackals" tells the untold history of Czechoslovakia's complex relations with Middle Eastern terrorists and revolutionaries during the closing decades of the Cold War

In the 1970s and 1980s, Prague became a favourite destination for the world's most prominent terrorists and revolutionaries. They arrived here to seek refuge, enjoy recreation, or hold secret meetings aimed at securing training, arms, and other forms of support. While some were welcomed with open arms, others were closely watched and were eventually ousted.

Watching the Jackals is the untold history of Czechoslovakia's complex relations with Middle Eastern terrorists and revolutionaries during the closing decades of the Cold War. Based on recently declassified intelligence files, Richterova unveils the story of Prague's engagement with various factions of the Palestine Liberation Organization, along with some of the era's most infamous terrorists, including Carlos the Jackal, the Munich Olympics massacre commander Abu Daoud, and the Abu Nidal Organization. In this gripping account, Richterova explains why "Cold War Jackals" gravitated toward Prague and how the country's leaders reacted to their visits, and she uncovers the role Czechoslovakia's security and intelligence apparatus – the StB (Státní bezpečnost) played in these, at times, dangerous liaisons.

Drawing on interviews and remarkably detailed records from the former Czechoslovakia (now the Czech Republic and the Slovak Republic), Richterova offers readers interested in the intelligence world a fascinating account of how states use their spies to pursue covert policies with violent nonstate actors. The book also introduces new evidence and nuances into old debates about whether the Communist Bloc supported terrorism.

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The Gulf of Tonkin incident, was a pivotal moment that escalated U.S. involvement in the Vietnam War.

I talked with US Marine Veteran John F. Davies, who researched the Gulf of Tonkin Incident. He shares a personal connection and insights on the political and military decisions that led to one of America's most controversial conflicts.

Discover the intricate dance of diplomacy, military strategy, and political manoeuvring that shaped this critical historical period.

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00:00 Introduction

01:23 Personal Connection to the Incident

03:45 Political Context and Decisions

15:30 The Gulf of Tonkin Incident

45:00 Consequences and Reflections

57:30 Conclusion

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Today we are transported back to a pivotal moment in history that occurred 35 years ago this month - the Romanian Revolution of 1989.

This episode is from our archive and features, Mark Brayne, a former Reuters and BBC journalist, who provides a gripping first-hand account of the tumultuous events that led to the fall of Nicolae Ceausescu. As Mark recounts his experiences, listeners are given a rare glimpse into the life of a journalist reporting from a war zone.

He embarks on a perilous journey to Bucharest, navigating roadblocks and dodging bullets to report on the revolution. His determination to capture the story amidst chaos and danger is a testament to the courage and resilience of journalists who risk their lives to bring us the news.

Beyond the historical events, Mark shares personal reflections on how these experiences shaped his life and career. The emotional intensity of covering such significant moments led him to a new path as a psychotherapist, helping others navigate their own traumas.

This episode is not just a recounting of history but an exploration of the human stories behind the headlines. It highlights the bravery of journalists like Mark, who venture into the unknown to bring us closer to the truth. For anyone interested in history, journalism, or the human condition, this episode is a must-listen.

Related episodes:

• Mark - A UK Journalist in the Soviet Union & GDR  https://pod.fo/e/1c4ef
• Mark - A British Journalist under Stasi Surveillance https://pod.fo/e/1e111
• The Human Factor: Gorbachev, Reagan, and Thatcher, and the End of the Cold War https://pod.fo/e/17bf8
• Reporting on the 1989 Revolution in Romania and the Czechoslovak Velvet Revolution https://pod.fo/e/2544b1

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Join our East-West tank crew reunion that offers a rare glimpse into the lives of those who served on opposite sides of the Iron Curtain. The episode features Al and Mick, former Chieftain tank crew members from the British Army, alongside Dag, an ex-East German T72 tank commander.

Together, they delve into their personal experiences, providing insights into the military strategies, challenges, and camaraderie that defined their service during the Cold War.

As the discussion unfolds, the trio explores the intricacies of military life, from the training regimes and unit cohesion to the technical specifications of their respective tanks.

Dag provides an intriguing account of the T72's capabilities, highlighting its strengths and limitations. Meanwhile, Al and Mick reflect on their experiences with the Chieftain tank, offering a Western perspective on tank warfare during the Cold War.

The episode is punctuated with personal anecdotes and reflections, adding depth and humanity to the historical narrative. Dag's candid admission of his reluctance to serve at the border and his refusal to shoot at defectors offers a poignant reminder of the moral complexities faced by those in uniform. Similarly, Al and Mick's recollections of training exercises and the camaraderie among their fellow soldiers highlight the bonds forged in service.

Related episodes:

• Crewing the Cold War Chieftain tank https://pod.fo/e/155bb4
• Cold War Chieftain tank deployment at the East German Border https://pod.fo/e/157641
• The East German Tank Commander https://pod.fo/e/210cee

Episode extras here including Dag's vehicle recognition manual https://coldwarconversations.com/episode379/

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00:00 Introduction

02:35 How do you become an East German Tank commander?

07:28 Selection and training for British tank crew

08:51 Were you selected for the East German border guards?

12:39 Differences in training areas and exercises

18:20 Unit cohesion - differences between conscript and professional armies

21:42 Enemy vehicle recognition

24:17 Benefits of a professional army and all arms training in Canada

28:30 Doctrines of each army - defence vs attack

31:00 Change of East German doctrine to a defensive posture

33:55 Plan to Attack Poland in 1981

38:10 If the East German army had crossed the West German border

43:02 Challenges of breaking through the border fortifications

45:03 East German view of the Soviets

51:26 What was the T72 like to operate?

56:44 Benefits of Chieftain's thermal imaging system

59:52 Training of the Chieftain crew if the thermal imaging system failed.

01:04:57 The British Army's secret weapons - the boiling vessel

01:09:51 Refuelling & ammunition replenishment

01:14:34 T72 autoloader

01:19:13 T72 snorkel

01:25:14 Final comments between the crews

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Ron Mackay further recounts his experiences in Romania, a country teetering between Soviet influence and a desire for independence, offering a fascinating glimpse into a time of uncertainty and intrigue.

Among many stories, Ron visits an RAF base in the UK where his brother was a crew member of a Vulcan bomber, Britain’s nuclear deterrent at the time. The RAF quizzes Ron in detail about the locations he has visited in Romania.

Back in Romania Ron navigates the intricacies of its society and shares stories of friendships forged under the watchful eyes of the Securitate, Romania's feared secret police.

Ron describes his interactions with various characters, each with their own motivations and secrets. From a duck shooting party at a Communist Party hunting lodge to a tense encounter with tanks near the Soviet border, Ron's stories are filled with suspense and unexpected twists.

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Related episodes:

• Hitchhiking behind the 1960s Iron Curtain https://pod.fo/e/2098ae
• A Childhood under the Eye of the Secret Police https://pod.fo/e/a4730
• My life laid bare through secret police files https://pod.fo/e/12e45f
• A Hungarian Childhood in Cold War Romania https://pod.fo/e/1190aa
• Escaping from Cold War Romania https://pod.fo/e/11ad63
• Emanuela - a Cold War Romanian Childhood https://pod.fo/e/f0376
• Reporting the 1989 Romanian Revolution https://pod.fo/e/1ea8c

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In 1967 a young British professor found himself in Bucharest, Romania, under the most intriguing circumstances.

Ron Mackay shares his fascinating experiences as he navigated life and teaching in a communist country. When he set foot on Romanian soil, he was met with challenges and intrigue. The stark realities of life under a communist regime painted a picture of a world vastly different from his own. Yet, amidst the restrictions, he found beauty in the Romanian culture, architecture, and the resilience of its people.

Despite the oppressive environment, his students were eager to learn and engage, offering him a glimpse into their lives and aspirations. The lack of resources and the ever-present surveillance added complexity to his teaching experience.

The episode also explores his adventures beyond the classroom, from navigating the bustling streets of Bucharest to travelling through the picturesque Romanian countryside, his encounters with locals, fellow expatriates, and even a mysterious British engineer.

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Related episodes:

• Cold War, Warm Hearts - Hitchhiking behind the 1960s Iron Curtain https://pod.fo/e/2098ae
• A Childhood under the eye of the Secret Police https://pod.fo/e/a4730
• My life laid bare through secret police files https://pod.fo/e/12e45f
• A Hungarian childhood in Cold War Romania https://pod.fo/e/1190aa
• Escaping from Cold War Romania https://pod.fo/e/11ad63
• Emanuela - a Cold War Romanian Childhood https://pod.fo/e/f0376
• Reporting the 1989 Romanian Revolution https://pod.fo/e/1ea8c

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0:00:01 Teaching in Cold War Romania

0:04:30 Cultural Exchange Mission in Romania

0:12:07 First Impressions of Bucharest

0:25:43 Living Under Surveillance in Romania

0:42:14 Interactions in Rural Romania

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Few operations in Cold War history capture the imagination quite like Operation Eagle Claw. I have the privilege of welcoming back James Stejskal, a Special Forces veteran, to delve into the intricacies of this audacious mission. 

Operation Eagle Claw, was conceived as a daring rescue mission to free 52 US embassy staff being held hostage held in Iran. James was a member of Detachment A, a clandestine unit tasked with gathering intelligence and preparing for the mission. James reveals the undercover operations in Tehran, where operatives navigated hostile territory with nothing but their wits and

false identities.

The operation itself was fraught with difficulties from the onset and James walks us through the intricate phases of the mission, from the rendezvous at Desert One to the audacious plan to storm the embassy and foreign ministry in Tehran. He captures the sense of urgency and the meticulous planning that went into every detail, highlighting the commitment of those

involved.

For those intrigued by the complexities of Cold War operations and the human stories behind them, this episode is a must-listen. James's insights and personal reflections bring a unique perspective to a pivotal moment in history.

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Related episodes:

• Special Forces Berlin - Clandestine Cold War Operations of the US Army's Elite, 1956-1990 https://pod.fo/e/19e5f
• Den of Spies: The October Surprise - A Covert Cold War Operation https://pod.fo/e/283261
• The Siege: The Remarkable Story of the Greatest SAS Hostage Drama with Ben Macintyre https://pod.fo/e/26909e

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0:00:01 Operation Eagle Claw

0:18:47 Failed Rescue Operation and Escape Efforts

0:33:51 Joint Task Force 179 Iran Rescue

0:41:35 Podcast Updates and Thanks

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In the late 1970s, the United States found itself at the centre of a crisis where 52 US Embassy staff were held hostage in Iran.

Our latest episode takes you on a journey through the tumultuous events of 1980, exploring the covert operation known as the “October Surprise” that allegedly influenced the outcome of the U.S. presidential election.

William Casey is at the heart of this story, a brilliant yet enigmatic figure who played a pivotal role in the Reagan campaign. Described as a master spy, Casey is said to have orchestrated a complex web of secret meetings and illegal arms sales, all aimed at manipulating 52 American hostages held captive in Iran to Ronald Reagan’s advantage.

Our guest, Craig Unger an investigative journalist with decades of experience, has written a new book on the subject Den of Spies: Reagan, Carter, and the Secret History of the Treason That Stole the White House.

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Today is Veterans Day in the US and Armistice Day in the UK and to commemorate I’ve gone back into the archive to remember and share vivid testimony from Korean War veteran Tommy Clough who sadly passed away a couple of weeks ago.

The Korean War was among the most destructive conflicts of the modern era, and one of the few times when the Cold War turned hot. There were approximately 3 million war fatalities and a larger proportional civilian death toll than World War II or the Vietnam War.

Tommy Clough is one of the last surviving of the battle of the Imjin River and was just 19 when the Gloucestershire Regiment were cut off from their brigade by more than 10,000 Chinese troops in 1951. Outnumbered and surrounded, they dug in on a hilltop for three days, repelling attack after attack until their ammunition ran out. The battle of the Imjin River was one of the most famous of the Korean War

We hear in detail Tommy’s experiences in the days up to the battle, as well as the desperate fighting to hold off the Chinese army as food, water and ammunition ran out.

Inevitably the Gloucestershire Regiment was forced to surrender and Tommy’s story continues, with the hardship and privation of the 500 miles march to their prisoner of war camp. Following an escape attempt, Tommy is held and handcuffed for 6 weeks in solitary confinement including a lengthy period held in a small cage.

It’s an incredible story of fortitude and resilience under the most extreme circumstances and I am so humbled and honoured to be able to share this story with you. I’d like to thank The History of War magazine for putting me in contact with the Soldiers of Gloucestershire Museum and subsequently Tommy.

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Today is the 35th anniversary of the Berlin Wall and East German border opening in the autumn of 1989.

In this riveting episode, I speak with Dietmar Schultke, a member of the Grenztruppen, the East German Border Guards and delve into the life of those responsible for preventing escapes over the Berlin Wall and the East German Border.

Dietmar opens up about his life in the GDR, sharing personal stories of his recruitment into the border troops, the rigorous training he endured, and the psychological pressures he faced during his service.

Training in Eisenach prepared him for a potential third World War, with exercises in sharpshooting, combat, and gas mask drills. The psychological toll of such training was immense, as soldiers were constantly under surveillance, with one in ten being a Stasi informant.

The cultural impact of the time was not lost on Dietmar. He vividly recalls attending a Bruce Springsteen concert in East Berlin, an event that felt like a taste of freedom amidst the oppressive regime. The concert was a beacon of hope, yet, the return to the border was a stark reminder of the barriers that still existed.

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Guarding the Wall Podcast https://royalarmouries.org/objects-and-stories/stories/guarding-the-berlin-wall

Dietmar's web site https://www.dietmar-schultke.de

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This episode is brought to you by the Avro Heritage Museum at Woodford near Manchester where I am a volunteer. Trevor Jackson is also one of the volunteers, but unlike me he’s a former Vulcan pilot who shares with me his extraordinary career.

From his early days with the Royal Air Force Cadet Force to flying iconic aircraft like the BAC Jet Provost, Folland Gnat , Vulcan, Gannett, and Canberra, Trevor provides fascinating insights into the life of a military aviator.

Discover the challenges and thrills of flying during the Cold War, the intricacies of Vulcan QRA scrambles, and landing on the pitching, heaving deck of an aircraft carrier. This episode is a must-listen for aviation enthusiasts and history buffs alike!

I highly recommend the Avro Heritage Museum. They’re the home of the only white Vulcan in the World as well as many other historical aircraft and cockpits. Visit the web site at https://www.avroheritagemuseum.co.uk/ for more details.

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As Tom Williams fought the enemy, every day, without fail, he would record the day’s events in his diary. It is these diaries (which Tom has to this day), that enable him to tell the story of Vietnam in the late sixties/early seventies, like it really was.

I talk with Tom about his book “Doorsteps of Hell” where he offers an honest, unembellished account of a new officer in the US Marines - fighting and surviving in the mud-sucking rice paddies and leech-infested jungles of Vietnam.

In my conversation Tom brings to life the camaraderie, leadership, and the very essence of military expertise. Tom’s book is available at heartofamarineseries.com .

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In the late 1960s European club football competitions were thriving However unexpected events in 1968 threatened its survival.

I delve into the fascinating world of European football during the Cold War era with Craig McCracken, a self-described peddler and purveyor of quasi obscure retro football nostalgia via the 'Beyond The Last Man' blog.

We explore the political tensions that influenced European football in the 1960s, and the dramatic events of 1968 when the Prague Spring was crushed by Soviet and Warsaw Pact forces.

Discover how these geopolitical events impacted clubs like Celtic, the Milan clubs, and Real Madrid, and the unprecedented decisions UEFA had to make. This episode is a gripping tale of football, politics, and the power struggles that shaped the beautiful game.

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Craig's excellent blog https://beyondthelastman.com/

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Flying at high speed and low level, RCAF pilot Allen French was at the sharp end of potential nuclear bombing missions during the Cold War.

Born at the dawn of the baby boomer era, Allen delves into his early inspirations, his father's service in the Royal Canadian Air Force, and the pivotal moments that led him to join the Air Force.

From training on the Canadair CT-114 Tutor to flying the iconic F-86 Sabre and CF-104 Starfighter, Allen shares firsthand accounts of Cold War tensions, nuclear deterrence strategies, and the challenges of high-speed, low-level navigation across Europe.

Around 50% of over 200 Canadian Starfighters were lost in accidents. You’ll hear about Allen’s near-death experience at a West German airbase and many other personal anecdotes that bring history to life.

Thanks to Bernardo Scheliga who put me in contact with Allen. He and Allen are volunteers at the Canadian Museum of Flight. You can find details here  https://canadianflight.org/

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In the sleepy suburb of Ruislip in London during the late 1950s, life was anything but exciting for Gay Search, a 15-year-old girl. Little did she know, her mundane existence was about to be shattered by a shocking revelation that would turn her world upside down.

This is the gripping tale of suburban espionage, the story begins with the seemingly ordinary Kroger family—Helen and Peter—who live just a stone's throw away from Gay.

However, beneath their friendly facade lay a dark secret. The Krogers were, in fact, Soviet spies, part of the infamous Portland Spy Ring.

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In this gripping episode of Cold War Conversations, we hear the remarkable first-hand account of John Brooker, an Australian veteran who takes us on a journey from the streets of Sydney to the battlefields of Vietnam.

John shares his experiences from joining the Citizens Military Force (CMF) to his deployment with the Royal New South Wales Lancers and the regular army.

He provides vivid details of the Tet Offensive of 1968, the intense firefights, and the harrowing experience of being mortared for the first time.

John also reflects on the challenges of returning to civilian life and the mixed reception from the Australian public and World War II veterans.

Don't miss this powerful and insightful episode!

Related episodes

• Vietnam War draftee to US Army Ranger https://pod.fo/e/10388d
• Just another day in Vietnam https://pod.fo/e/ac3e7
• Don – Vietnam War Armoured Cavalry Platoon Leader https://pod.fo/e/a08dc
• Cold War Tank Tales from the Land Down Under https://pod.fo/e/2078b9
• Further Cold War Tank Tales from the Land Down Under https://pod.fo/e/20dda1
• Australian Cold War Maritime Air Patrols https://pod.fo/e/21e35d

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It's 40 years since the film Threads was shown on British TV. It portrayed the effects of a nuclear attack on the city of Sheffield, England and the eventual long-term effects of nuclear war on civilization. It therefore seems apt to publish a tour I had of the Hack Green Regional Seat of Government Bunker museum.

Nestled in the heart of Cheshire, Hack Green Nuclear Bunker is a hidden gem that offers a fascinating glimpse into the Cold War era. I had the pleasure of exploring this historical site with Rod Siebert who originally bought the bunker and volunteer David Smith, who shared their extensive knowledge and passion for this remarkable place.

The bunker contains many unique artefacts such as the largest public collection of nuclear weapons casings in Europe, including  Polaris, Trident, Chevaline and  WE 177, the UK's last airdrop nuclear deterrent.

Other rare and unique items include the Queen's transition to war telephone, which would have been used by the UK government  to communicate with Buckingham Palace in the event of war.

Hack Green is not just a museum; it's a time capsule that offers a unique and sobering insight into the Cold War era. Whether you're a history buff, a fan of military technology, or simply curious about this hidden piece of history, Hack Green is a must-visit.

Episode extras https://coldwarconversations.com/episode365/

Related episodes

• How Cold War Britain prepared for Nuclear War https://pod.fo/e/172825
• The man who built his own nuclear bunker https://pod.fo/e/12af02
• The last voice you'd hear in a nuclear war https://pod.fo/e/186a6d
• Cold War leaflets and secret documents https://pod.fo/e/157f2
• Assigned to a government bunker https://pod.fo/e/13303
• Visiting a Royal Observer Corps monitoring post and interview with the Chief Observer who served in the post https://pod.fo/e/f82a
• Alistair McCann has preserved a Royal Observer Corps monitoring post as a museum in Northern Ireland. https://pod.fo/e/f83d

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On April 30, 1980, six heavily armed gunmen burst into the Iranian embassy on Princes Gate, overlooking Hyde Park in London. There they took 26 hostages, including embassy staff, visitors, and three British citizens.

I talk with Britain’s bestselling historian Ben Macintyre who has written a new book called “The Siege: The Remarkable Story of the Greatest SAS Hostage Drama”. The book details the tense six-day siege ensued as millions gathered around screens across the country to witness the longest news flash in British television history, in which police negotiators and psychiatrists sought a bloodless end to the standoff, while the SAS – hitherto an organisation shrouded in secrecy – laid plans for a daring rescue mission: Operation Nimrod.

Drawing on unpublished source material, exclusive interviews with the SAS, and testimony from witnesses including hostages, negotiators, intelligence officers and the on-site psychiatrist, bestselling historian Ben Macintyre takes readers on a gripping journey from the years and weeks of build-up on both sides, to the minute-by-minute account of the siege and rescue.

Recreating the dramatic conversations between negotiators and hostages, the cutting-edge intelligence work happening behind-the-scenes, and the media frenzy around this moment of international significance, The Siege is the remarkable story of what really happened on those fateful six days, and the first full account of a moment that forever changed the way the nation thought about the SAS – and itself.

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00:00 Start

00:51 Introduction

03:53 Why is the book unique?

08:51 What were the political motivations of the gunmen?

16:30 How did the attack start?

23:50 Who is being held hostage?

27:25 The situation in the embassy in the first few days

35:31 Police negotiations

40:55 The SAS go in!

49:06 What happens to the gunmen?

51:12 PC Trevor Locke concealed his gun for six days during hostage crisis

54:16 The ending of the siege

55:26 How the siege raised Britain's military profile

58:33 The book about the siege will be turned into a television drama

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Chris is a former member of the Yorkshire Volunteers, part of Cold War Britain’s Territorial reserve Army. This episode is a treasure trove of personal anecdotes, historical insights, and reflections on military life, making it a must-listen for anyone interested in military history and the Cold War era.

Chris’s journey into the military began with his interest in military subjects and history. He joined the Army Cadet Force before university and later, the Officer Training Corps at Sheffield University. As a reserve unit, training included handling World War II vintage weapons including the venerable Bren gun.

Chris’s training involved long days and nights of exercises and lectures. He recalls an incident at the School of Infantry in Warminster where he inadvertently came under live fire. Despite his initial lack of physical prowess, Chris’s perseverance and dedication saw him through, eventually leading to his decision to pursue a commission as an officer.

After training and assessment at Sandhurst, Chris was commissioned as a second lieutenant. The transition from private soldier to officer was challenging, particularly as he had to command men who previously outranked him. However, Chris’s determination and growing confidence helped him establish himself as a capable leader.

Looking back, Chris reflects on the camaraderie, the challenges, and the humorous moments that defined his military service. He also discusses the reality of PTSD, sharing insights from a friend who served in Iraq. 

Related episodes

• Britain's 1980s Cold War Dads Army/Home Guard - The Home Service Force  https://pod.fo/e/14aea3

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Juli begins by recounting her early years in East Berlin, a time marked by the tragic loss of her father. Drafted into the army just days before her birth, her father continually deserted to see his family, ultimately leading to his untimely death. This early loss left Juli and her mother to

navigate a harsh landscape in East Germany alone.

Life in East Berlin was a world of contrasts. Juli describes the indoctrination she experienced in school, where lessons were steeped in socialist propaganda. The Berlin Wall, a symbol of division and oppression, loomed large in her family's life, cutting them off from relatives in the West. Despite the regime's efforts to control information, Juli's family found ways to glimpse the outside world through Western television channels, fuelling her desire for freedom.

As Juli grew older, she became increasingly aware of the regime's lies and the oppressive nature of the state. The revolutionary movements of the late 1980s, sparked by events like the Tiananmen Square massacre, galvanized her. Juli joined the Monday demonstrations in Leipzig, risking her safety to demand change.

Juli’s story doesn’t end with the fall of the Wall. She moved to Ireland, where she built a new life and family. Her reflections on transitioning from a controlled, oppressive state to a free society are profound. She speaks candidly about the challenges of adapting to a new way of life and the lingering impact of her upbringing.

East Germany episode playlist https://open.spotify.com/playlist/1gHCa6R8q5OXkUncJQmyFm?si=9cc56794cf7244bc

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BRIXMIS and its operations behind enemy lines continue to fascinate the listeners of Cold War Conversations. In August 2024 I was honoured to be invited to the National Army Museum in London to interview Andrew Long, the author of BRIXMIS and the Secret Cold War - Intelligence Collecting Operations Behind Enemy Lines in East Germany.

The National Army Museum is a leading authority on the British Army and its impact on society past and present. It’s well worth a visit, particularly their Foe to Friend exhibition about the British Army in Germany since 1945 which is on until the end of September 2024.

In front of a sellout audience including approximately 50 BRIXMIS veterans and their families, we discuss the role, purpose and achievements of BRIXMIS. The accompanying presentation can be viewed here.

The interview starts with an introduction from former BRIXMIS officer Major General Peter Williams and Chairman of the BRIXMIS Association. I’m delighted to welcome Peter Williams, Andrew Long and a sellout audience at the National Army Museum to our Cold War Conversation.

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Linked episodes

• BRIXMIS, the defence of Cold War Berlin & Rudolf Hess https://pod.fo/e/f833
• Pete – a BRIXMIS driver behind enemy lines in East Germany https://pod.fo/e/eeb4c
• Arrested 11 times, plus 3 shooting incidents – a BRIXMIS officer’s diary Pt 1 https://pod.fo/e/13af96
• Imprisoned in a Soviet Military gaol - a BRIXMIS officer's diary Pt 2 https://pod.fo/e/13ca90
• In conversation with 7 BRIXMIS veterans – Part 1 https://pod.fo/e/1599d9
• In conversation with 7 BRIXMIS veterans – Part 2 https://pod.fo/e/15b0ac
• Royal Military Police versus the Soviets (SOXMIS) in Cold War West Germany https://pod.fo/e/12c9d6
• Behind enemy lines in East Germany with a US Military Liaison Mission driver Part 1 https://pod.fo/e/d4229
• Behind enemy lines in East Germany with a US Military Liaison Mission driver Part 2 https://pod.fo/e/d757b
• Soviet and U.S. Military Liaison Missions & US Counterintelligence https://pod.fo/e/e4f55
• Cold War US Army Intelligence Analyst https://pod.fo/e/1f383
• US Army Intelligence gathering in the unified Germany https://pod.fo/e/b2cb3

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00:00 Introduction

12:06 Post war Germany was split into four occupation zones

16:35 BRIXMIS offices in Berlin and East Germany

21:06 Contacts between Soviets and British

23:27 The tour role in  East Germany

30:16 Exploiting intelligence from Soviet rubbish tips

32:15 Restricted areas in East Germany

35:55 Missions and intelligence scoops

40:04 Descriptions of special equipment

42:05 BRIXMIS Cars

44:01 James Bond switches

47:59 Photography  

50:36 Overnighting in East Germany

53:25 There East German and Soviet opposition

56:58 Close scrapes and fatalities

01:02 Where to buy the book

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The Spycatcher affair remains one of the most intriguing moments in the history of British intelligence and a pivotal point in the public's relationship with the murky world of espionage and security.

It lifted the lid on alleged Soviet infiltration of British services and revealed a culture of law-breaking, bugging and burgling. But how much do we know about the story behind the scandal?

Tim Tate is the author of To Catch a Spy - How the Spycatcher Affair Brought MI5 in from the Cold and in this episode he reveals the astonishing true story of the British government's attempts to silence whistleblower and ex MI5 Spycatcher Peter Wright and hide the truth about Britain's intelligence services and political elites.

This is a tale of high treason and low farce. Drawing on thousands of pages of previously unpublished court transcripts, the contents of secret British government files, and original interviews with many of the key players in the Spycatcher trials.

It draws back the curtain on a hidden world. A world where spies, politicians and Britain's most senior civil servants conspired to ride roughshod over the law, prevented the public from hearing about their actions and mounted a cynical conspiracy to deceive the world.

Related episodes

• Guy Burgess and the Cambridge Spy Ring https://pod.fo/e/a5e38
• Charlotte Philby talks about her grandfather Soviet spy Kim Philby https://pod.fo/e/115bd7
• Spy Who Was Left Out in the Cold: The Secret History of Agent Goleniewski https://pod.fo/e/cd2e1

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Jack Downey was the longest-held prisoner of war in American history. He was a CIA officer captured in China during the Korean War and imprisoned for twenty-one years.

I speak with Barry Werth the author of Prisoner of Lies - Jack Downey's Cold War. He details Downey’s story when the CIA recruited him as a new Yale graduate in the post-World War II years. In a violation of protocol, Downey took part in an airdrop that failed and was captured over China.

US government policy forbade ever acknowledging the identity of spies, no matter the consequences. Washington invented a fictitious cover story and stood by it through four Administrations. As a result, Downey was imprisoned during the decades that Red China, as it was called, was considered by the US to be a hostile nation.

This is a harrowing, chilling story of one man whose life is at the mercy of larger forces outside of his control; in Downey’s case as a pawn of the Cold War, and more specifically the Oval Office and the State Department.

However above all, it is an inspiring story of remarkable fortitude and resilience.

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Linked episodes

Gary Powers & the 1960 U2 Incident https://pod.fo/e/f830

The Chinese Civil War and the Independence of Taiwan https://pod.fo/e/b9f5d

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Beginning with the death of Stalin in 1953, the “sixties” era in the Soviet Union was just as vibrant and transformative as in the West. The ideological romanticism of the revolutionary years was revived, with a renewed emphasis on egalitarianism, equality, and the building of a communist utopia.

Mass terror was reined in, great victories were won in the space race, Stalinist cultural dogmas were challenged, and young people danced to jazz and rock and roll.

I speak with Robert Hornsby who has written "the Soviet Sixties" which examines this remarkable and surprising period, showing that, even as living standards rose, aspects of earlier days endured.

Censorship and policing remained tight, and massacres during protests in Tbilisi and Novocherkassk, alongside invasions of Hungary and Czechoslovakia, showed the limits of reform. The rivalry with the United States reached perhaps its most volatile point, friendship with China turned to bitter enmity, and global decolonization opened up new horizons for the USSR in the developing world.

These tumultuous years transformed the lives of Soviet citizens and helped reshape the wider world.

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Related episodes

• My father was Nikita Khrushchev Part 1 https://pod.fo/e/f831
• My father was Nikita Khrushchev Part 2 https://pod.fo/e/f82f
• The Cuban Missile Crisis https://pod.fo/e/143b25
• Soviet leader Leonid Brezhnev https://pod.fo/e/f9094
• A freedom fighter in the 1956 Hungarian Revolution https://pod.fo/e/b1813
• The Prague Spring https://pod.fo/e/f83a

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Due to personal circumstances, I’ve been unable to produce a new episode this week, however, you will be aware of the many gems in the back catalogue and I have chosen one of my favourites today which is a rip-roaring story of service in the USAF with Rick Shreve an F111 pilot which I know you will enjoy. Normal service should be resumed next week.

Rick Shreve was a US Air Force F 111 pilot based at RAF Lakenheath in the UK. He was trained to carry out nuclear as well as conventional missions against the Warsaw Pact forces in Europe. Rick describes his low-level training missions to attack targets in the Soviet Union and East Germany, where he recalls a near-fatal incident amongst the Scottish lochs.

Rick was also part of one of the crews that flew on Operation El Dorado Canyon, the operation to bomb Libya in April 1986 in retaliation for the West Berlin discotheque bombing ten days earlier.

Rick gives you a very frank and honest view of his role in the US Air Force and his approach to the huge responsibilities he carried.

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Allan Little recounts his journey from his student days in Edinburgh to working as a journalist the front lines of Cold War history in Eastern Europe and beyond.

In 1989 he found himself on the night shift at the BBC’s Today programme in London when the Berlin Wall fell. Witnessing the world change in real time Allan’s desire to be part of these monumental events grew stronger.

He shares is his experience as a journalist during the Velvet Revolution in Czechoslovakia. Allan describes the electrifying atmosphere of Wenceslas Square and the fear of a violent crackdown.

Allan also takes us to Romania during the fall of Nicolae Ceaușescu's brutal regime. He recounts in detail the chaos, the gunfire, and the bloody reality of the revolution’s human cost .

The episode also delves into his time covering the 1991 Gulf War in Baghdad. He describes the eerie experience of watching the city being bombed from his hotel room and the resilience of the people around him.

As the episode draws to a close, Allan reflects on the lessons he's learned from his career. He reminds us that while we may know what a society is transitioning from, we should be cautious in predicting what it is transitioning to. His insights are a powerful reminder of the complexities of history and the importance of journalism.

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Thomas Maier an investigative journalist is our guide to the shadowy world of organized crime and espionage where shares insights from his extensive research and writing, including his latest book and drama documentary "Mafia Spies," which explores the unlikely alliance between the CIA and the Mafia in their attempts to assassinate Fidel Castro.

We dive into the lives of two central figures in "Mafia Spies": Sam Giancana and Johnny Roselli. Giancana, the head of the Chicago mob in the early 1960s, and Roselli, the mafia's fixer in Hollywood, had a complex relationship that intertwined with the glamorous world of celebrities and the dark underworld of organized crime. Thomas elaborates on Giancana's personal turmoil following the sudden death of his wife and his increasing involvement with Roselli in Las Vegas.

We explore the intriguing character of Judy Campbell, who was introduced to Frank Sinatra and eventually to John F. Kennedy, becoming a key player in this intricate web of relationships.

The episode uncovers the CIA's covert operations to eliminate Castro, detailing the various assassination attempts and the involvement of Mafia figures like Giancana and Roselli. Thomas provides a fascinating look at the historical context and the extensive espionage network set up by Castro with the help of the Soviets.

We also examine the ethical implications of the CIA's collaboration with the Mafia, the internal conflicts within the U.S. government, and the ultimate fates of Giancana and Roselli.

The Paramount Showtime series based on "Mafia Spies," is released on July 16, and promises to bring this captivating story to a wider audience.

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Bärbel was born in a village near Magdeburg in 1962, She explores her personal and professional life growing up in East Germany.

We delve into her family's views on the East German government, her journey to becoming a teacher, and her experiences teaching English. We cover gender roles and the pressures to become a member of the communist party.

Also discussed are the ideological and societal differences between East and West Germany, as well as the impact of the Berlin Wall's fall.

Bärbel reflects on her career transition post-reunification, her family's life, the significant changes in Magdeburg and details her first trip to the UK.

Highlighting the joy and challenges she faced, the episode provides a comprehensive insight into the daily life and career of a teacher in East Germany.

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Cold War RAF pilot Jeremy Lane, shares his gripping experiences, from nuclear bombing missions to a close encounter with a UFO.

He was trained to fly the Canberra aircraft on nuclear bombing missions and describes how the American weaponry they would have used required dual control from both the President of the United States and the British Prime Minister.

Jeremy also describes the Quick Reaction Alert (QRA) duties where aircraft were always on standby, ready to fly their nuclear missions at a moment's notice.

He shares his experiences with escape and evasion training, designed to prepare pilots for the possibility of being shot down over enemy territory. The training was gruelling, involving everything from water survival exercises, evading capture in the wilderness and how to stand up to interrogation. It was a stark reminder of the risks these pilots faced daily.

However, it wasn't all tension and drills. Life on the squadron had its moments of camaraderie and even humour. Our guest recounts how young pilots, feeling invincible, would joke about heading west instead of completing their mission if war ever broke out.

The episode concludes with a truly extraordinary story—a close encounter with a UFO. During a night flight exercise, our guest, his crew and other aircraft witnessed a mysterious, pulsating object in the sky.

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00:00 Mysterious Shape in the Sky

00:25 Introduction to Cold War Conversations

01:53 American Nuclear Weaponry and Dual Control

04:56 Life on Quick Reaction Alert

12:54 Navigating and Bombing Techniques

21:32 Positive Vetting Process

28:57 Suicide Mission Realities

29:35 A Surreal Briefing at Laarbruch

33:47 Escape and Evasion Training

36:26 Life on a Frontline Squadron

42:23 Disillusionment with the Air Force

55:09 Transition to Civilian Life

56:24 A Close Encounter with a UFO

01:02:12 Podcast Conclusion and Extras

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Jeremy Lane’s fascination for aviation was nurtured by countless childhood hours watching aircraft at Staverton Airport and North Weald.

He shares his experiences flying the Jet Provost and later, the Canberra. He describes the capabilities of this versatile and iconic aircraft, from high-speed reconnaissance to its nuclear role.

The Canberra's design, with its twin jet engines and rudimentary navigation equipment, required high skill and constant attention. The stories of flying at low levels, navigating with minimal aids, and the ever-present risk of engine failure provide a gripping insight into the life of an RAF pilot.

This episode is a treasure trove of aviation history and personal anecdotes. Whether you're an aviation enthusiast or simply curious about the life of an RAF pilot, this episode offers a compelling and immersive experience.

Tune in next week part 2 where we go into detail about the challenges of nuclear operations along the edge of the Iron Curtain.

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In this comprehensive narrative, Imre recounts his life from his birth in 1936 in Hungary to his emigration to the West after the 1956 Hungarian Revolution.

He discusses the influence of his family’s Hungarian and German heritage, his father’s work in the oil industry, and the impact of World War II and communist rule on his upbringing.

The account vividly describes his education, military training, and involvement in the 1956 Hungarian Revolution. He also highlights his subsequent escape to Austria and eventual resettlement in England including living with Bridget’s parents who featured in episode 322  

Imre elaborates on the hardships faced by his family due to political changes and the repressive regime, as well as his educational and professional journey in the UK, culminating in a successful international career.

His narrative provides a poignant look at the personal ramifications of leaving your country and the impact on relatives left behind.

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In this riveting account, Tilo recounts his experiences as an East German soldier during the final months of East Germany.

He details the rising political awareness among soldiers, and his fear that his unit will be asked to shoot on demonstrators also provides a personal perspective on the pivotal moments leading up to and following the fall of the Berlin Wall, including attending massive protests and his first visit to West Berlin.

Spurred by a broadcasted precedent of concession to striking soldiers in another barrack, Tilo and his comrades orchestrated what can only be described as a mutiny: a demand for rights, dignity, and acknowledgement of the transformative tide sweeping through East Germany.

The fall of the Berlin Wall is often recounted in grand narratives of geopolitical shifts, but regular Cold War Conversations listeners will know that it is stories like Tilo's that remind us that behind monumental changes are individuals and communities.

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This episode is brought to you by the CNN Original Series Secrets & Spies: A Nuclear Game which premieres 2nd June 2024 and is available now on BBC Iplayer). The series tracks the spies operating behind the scenes in the 1980s as the Cold War brings two superpowers to the brink of nuclear war.

This razor-sharp series examines the tenuousness of global geopolitics during the Cold War and features my guest Ken Adelman who served as the Director of the U.S. Arms Control and Disarmament Agency for nearly five years during the Reagan administration.

In our episode, Ken places you face to face with the Soviets during the tense nuclear arms negotiations at the 1986 Reykjavik Summit between President Reagan and Soviet Leader Mikhail Gorbachev.

Planned as a short gathering it quickly developed into major international issues and the possibility of eliminating all nuclear weapons...

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Episodes mentioned: 1983 the Year the Cold War Almost Turned Hot https://coldwarconversations.com/episode316/

CNN Original Series Secrets & Spies: A Nuclear Game https://cnncreativemarketing.com/project/secrets-spies/

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Luca Trenta is an associate professor at Swansea University and has recently authored The President's Kill List: Assassination and US Foreign Policy Since 1945. We dig in detail into the contents of the book delving into the history of Cold War CIA operations including instances of electoral interference and assassination.

Our conversation explores key historical episodes, including U.S. actions in Italy, Cuba, Chile, and assassinations in the context of the Cold War.

Case studies feature notable figures such as Fidel Castro, Che Guevara, Salvador Allende and René Schneider. Our discussion includes the impact of investigative journalism, the intricacies of covert planning, and the eventual exposure of these actions.

Luca also shares his personal story of a memorable dinner with former President Jimmy Carter.

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I’m a big fan of the History Daily podcast, where my good friend Lindsay Graham takes you back in time to explore a momentous moment that happened ‘on this day’ in history. Visit Historydaily.com or search History Daily in your podcast app to learn more.

As an introduction to History Daily I have selected two Cold War-themed episodes that I know you will enjoy.

The first is the story of the nuclear-powered submarine USS Scorpion which disappeared in the middle of the Atlantic Ocean with 99 men on board on May 22, 1968.

The second is the story of the Velvet Revolution when on November 17, 1989. Police violently shut down a student demonstration in Prague, sparking a revolution that ended communist rule in Czechoslovakia.

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In this fascinating interview, Patrick D. Joyce recounts his unique experience growing up as the son of a U.S. diplomat during the Cold War.

Living in the diplomatic community of the Soviet Union, Nicaragua, and Cuba, Patrick shares vivid memories of his father's career as a Soviet and linguistic expert, who rose to become Deputy Ambassador at both the Moscow and Havana US embassies.

The discussion touches on the juxtaposition of ordinary family life in various U.S. embassies around the world alongside the extraordinary circumstances of espionage and international relations, highlighting the complexities and contradictions of living in hostile countries during tense political times.

The narrative weaves through personal anecdotes, school experiences, interactions with local populations, and the evolving geopolitical landscape, providing a deeply personal lens on historical events.

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Patrick D. Joyce is the author of two Cold War thrillers for young adults: Back in the USSR and Strawberry Fields. Learn more about Patrick and his books at https://patrickdjoyce.com. 

Obituary in The Foreign Service Journal for Patrick’s father, John M. “Mike” Joyce: 

https://afsa.org/sites/default/files/flipping_book/070823/90/ 

“The Old Russian Legacy,” by John M. Joyce, in Foreign Policy (1984): 

https://www.jstor.org/stable/1148385 

“La guerra de la CIA contra Cuba,” the 1987 Cuban TV exposé that aired the night before Patrick’s family departed Havana: 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WqdlRcs06-Y

The Washington Post on the Cuban TV exposé: 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/politics/1987/07/25/spy-charges-strain-us-cuban-ties/d1a4ecc6-a7f6-4765-9a74-16a2d925b2eb/

James Olson on Foreign Policy’s I Spy podcast, with a recently revealed backstory to the Cuban TV exposé: 

https://foreignpolicy.com/podcasts/ispy/?episode=the-counterspy

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0:00 Introduction to Cold War Conversations

00:27 Meet Patrick D Joyce: A Diplomat's Son

01:37 Early Life and Family Background

04:44 Life in the Diplomatic Community

09:06 Experiences in the Soviet Union

19:00 Return to Moscow in the 80s

23:58 Navigating Diplomatic Life

29:06 Reflections and Writing Novels

30:13 Arrival in Managua: A Soviet Satellite

30:52 Life Amidst Conflict: The Contra War

32:41 Navigating Diplomatic Challenges

35:03 Teenage Adventures in a War-Torn City

38:04 Spies Among Us: Embassy Life Revealed

40:46 Transition to Havana: A Diplomatic Shift

42:54 Living in Havana: Between Luxury and Hostility

46:44 A Summer Job in Havana

48:04 Suspicions and Scandals: The Spy Question

54:31 Return to Moscow: A New Era

58:56 Life in Moscow: Socializing and Escaping

01:00:18 Final Departure: A Road Trip to Freedom

01:01:08 Episode Extras and Acknowledgements

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Warning: This episode does cover the subject of suicide. If you need help please use these links:

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Tilo shares his raw and powerful testimony of a young man conscripted into the East German military at the height of Cold War tensions. He recounts the daunting prospect of being drafted into the border guards, an assignment he was determined to avoid at all costs due to his moral opposition to the Berlin Wall and the potential to be forced into shooting unarmed escapers.

Tilo vividly describes the intense medical and psychological scrutiny he faced from military officials and shares the ingenious way he ensured he wouldn't be placed in the border guards, a tactic that involved a bold statement of conscience in front of a military panel.

The episode also delves into the harsh realities of East German military life, from the ritual humiliations of new recruits to the tragic story of a comrade's suicide attempt under the pressures of service. We explore the psychological toll of such an environment and the coping mechanisms soldiers use to survive.

Tilo also describes working in an artillery brigade headquarters, an unusual tactic to prevent Allied Military Liaison Missions from identifying their vehicles and an attack by East German paratroops during an exercise.

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00:00 Trigger Warning and Introduction

00:54 Tilo's Early Life and Draft Experience

02:43 Avoiding the Border Guards

10:27 Life in the Artillery Brigade

14:37 Harsh Realities and Hazing

18:14 Comrade's Suicide Attempt

35:03 Zyklus 89 Exercise and Conclusion

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David McKay is a former Cold War special forces officer and author of Bubbleheads, SEALs and Wizards: America's Scottish Bastion in the Cold War.

His book highlights the Scottish bases' significant role in supporting the US military over three decades.

David brings his expertise into play, examining this intriguing story by reaching out to more than one hundred veterans and expert witnesses. Their contributions reveal the personal stories of history, not high-end diplomacy.

We also delve into the espionage efforts mounted by the KGB against these bases through trawlers and agents on the ground.

Among the many stories that David details are the nuclear missile submarine operations from Holy Loch, the large radio spy stations and reveals for the first time one of America’s most bizarre intelligence gathering activities of the early Cold War.

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00:00  Introducing Cold War Conversations and David Mackay

01:54 David Mackay: From Paratrooper to Cold War Historian

05:30 The Strategic Importance of Scottish Bases in the Cold War

08:32 Project Genetrix: Balloons, Espionage, and Cold War Ingenuity

16:49 The U.S. Submarine Base in Scotland: Strategic Decisions and Local Impact

26:55 Espionage and Security: Spies, Spetsnaz, and Surveillance

33:20 The Soviet Presence in Scotland: Trawlers, Spies, and Local Encounters

41:25 Close Encounters of the Naval Kind

42:09 The Cat and Mouse of Cold War Submarines

42:53 Espionage and a High Seas Emergency

44:13 Gathering Intel

46:21 Signals Intelligence and the Scottish Connection

56:14 The Strategic Importance of Machrihanish

01:04:56 Prestwick Airport: A Cold War Crossroads

01:08:29 Reflecting on the Cuban Missile Crisis

01:11:37 Personal Anecdotes and Cold War Reflections

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Tilo offers an engaging and personal account of growing up in East Berlin before the fall of the Berlin Wall. He begins by describing his early childhood in a rundown building in Prenzlauer Berg before moving to a new prefab neighbourhood in Lichtenberg.

Tilo’s grandfather on his mother’s side was a  pastor in the Lutheran church and second in command to a Bishop at the end of his career. His grandfather on his father’s side had been a teacher and had joined the Nazi party After the World War Two he was banned from working.

Tilo’s family faced educational and career limitations due to their religious and political background compounded by the pervasive influence of the Stasi and party loyalty in determining one’s future.

Tilo  also recounts experiences of attending school with a strong military and ideological indoctrination, including paramilitary training and pressure to join the National People's Army (NVA). Despite these challenges, he  describes a vibrant underground punk scene and moments of resistance against the regime.

The story reflects on the significant socio-political changes during Tilo’s adolescence, including the impact of Chernobyl, the introduction of Glasnost, and the unexpected persistence of Nazi elements in East German society.

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00:00 Introduction to Cold War Conversations

00:35 Growing Up in East Berlin: A Personal Journey

00:48 Family Background and Political Challenges

01:17 School Life and Ideological Indoctrination

01:44 The Impact of Glasnost and Political Changes

03:30 Navigating the Complexities of East German Society

23:01 Reflections on East German Education and Military Training

25:55 Facing the Draft and the Pressure to Conform

41:37 The Punk Scene and Resistance in East Berlin

46:35 Concluding Thoughts and the Legacy of the Cold War

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Bill Woodman is a former US Navy nuclear missile submarine commander, who shares his rich experiences from joining the US Naval Academy in 1964 to commanding two SSBN submarines, the USS James Monroe and the USS Alabama during the Cold War.

Bill opens up about his initial aspirations, rigorous training at the Naval Academy, and his challenging interviews with the legendary Admiral Rickover who directed the original development of US naval nuclear propulsion and controlled its operations for three decades.

He gives detailed insights into submarine operations, leadership challenges, operational readiness exercises, and the constant concern of being detected by enemy or friendly forces.

We also delve into Bill's personal challenges and the pressures on submarine families, his final patrol commanding the USS Alabama, and reflections on movies and literature that accurately depict submarine life.

Throughout, Bill shares anecdotes illustrating the camaraderie, mental fortitude, and technical prowess required to lead in the silent, unseen world of submarine warfare.

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00:00 A Harrowing Introduction to Admiral Rickover

00:33 Joining the Cold War Underwater: Bill Woodman's Journey

02:40 The Rigorous Path to Becoming a Submariner

04:33 The interview with Admiral Rickover

11:09 From Nuclear Power School to Submarine Command

15:50 Commanding the Depths: Life as a Submarine Commander

31:37 The Psychological and Family Challenges of Submarine Life

40:27 Life Aboard a Nuclear Submarine: The Stark Realities

41:36 Routine and Readiness: The Cycle of a Submariner

43:12 Rigorous Testing: Ensuring Operational Excellence

47:22 The Unthinkable Scenario: Letters of Last Resort and Defence Conditions

49:45 Cold War Cat and Mouse: Encounters at Sea

51:04 Leadership Under Pressure: A Harrowing Rescue at Sea

01:00:46 Interactions and Exercises: Allied Navies and the Soviet Shadow

01:07:05 Reflections on Command and the Unseen Challenges of Submarine Life

01:13:59 Submarine Cinema: Authentic Portrayals and Personal Recommendations

01:15:27 Closing Thoughts and Acknowledgments

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Burt recounts the surreal experience of learning about Fisher's true identity from a newspaper headline, the subsequent FBI interrogations, and the emotional courtroom testimony where he struggled to reconcile his friendship with the stark reality of espionage.

Burt's journey leads him to Moscow in a failed attempt to reconnect with Fisher, revealing a labyrinthine world of secrets and paranoia. He shares a heartfelt letter he left for Fisher, expressing regret and longing for a simpler time when art, not intrigue, was their common ground.

As a testament to the personal connection they shared, Burt unveils a handcrafted wooden box—a wedding gift made by Fisher himself—symbolizing the genuine human connection that endured despite the shadowy world they navigated.

This episode is a poignant exploration of identity, memory, and the complex human relationships that defy the black-and-white narrative of the Cold War.

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In a riveting episode that peels back the layers of Cold War espionage, we sit down with Burt, an artist who unwittingly befriended a man better known as Colonel Abel, the infamous Bridge of Spies Spy who was exchanged for shot down US U2 pilot Gary Powers.

Burt knew Abel as Emil Goldfuss but his real name was Willie Fisher from Newcastle Upon Tyne in England. Fisher was a Soviet agent deeply embedded in the fabric of New York City's bustling art scene.

Burt's tale unfolds in a studio building exclusively for artists, where he first crossed paths with Fisher in an old-fashioned elevator—an encounter that would mark the beginning of an unexpected friendship.

Burt reminisces about their shared moments, from the peculiar request for a cup of turpentine to late-night discussions surrounded by the haze of cigarette smoke. He reflects on the nuances of their bond, the fatherly figure he saw in Fisher, and the mutual need for companionship that transcended the spy's professional obligations.

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Don’t miss part two of this amazing conversation next week…

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Valeriy was a Soviet Navy diver sapper and was born and raised in Kyiv, Ukraine. I have used a human translator for this episode so the main voice you will hear is my translator Galina Ryabova who was kindly funded by one of my financial supporters

Valeriy opens up about his childhood, the impact of the Great Patriotic War on his family, and his mother's resilience in raising him after his father's untimely death. He shares insights into his schooling, where history and geography sparked his curiosity, and his early military training which set the stage for his specialised role in the Soviet Navy.

Valeriy offers a rare glimpse into the life of a Soviet Navy diver sapper, trained in both underwater firearms and explosives, tasked with clearing mines to pave the way for naval infantry. He provides revealing insights into underwater warfare during the 1980s.

His unit was stationed near Kaliningrad, where he describes his equipment and the day-to-day life that included guarding, surveillance, and rigorous half-yearly military exercises.

Reflecting on the broader scope of the Cold War, Valeri discusses his perceptions of the US and NATO, the political climate under Gorbachev, and the aftermath of the USSR's dissolution.

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Sirka offers a comprehensive exploration of life in East Germany, detailing the experiences of growing up in Neubrandenburg, the influence of the East German state and the Stasi, and the societal impacts of Mikhail Gorbachev's policies leading up to the fall of the Berlin Wall.

She also talks of her intensive gymnastics training and being given pills by her trainer...

Sirka also describes the transition to reunification, highlighting the challenges of adapting to a new economic system and the mixed feelings toward sudden exposure to Western consumer culture.

Additionally, it includes a reflective conversation on post-reunification life in Germany, discussing Sirka's and her family's adjustment to the changes, including the effects on employment, homeownership, and personal political histories.

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00:00 Preview

00:22 Welcome to Cold War Conversations

00:36 Life in East Germany: An Insider's Perspective

01:50 Circa's Childhood and Family Life in Neubrandenburg

03:33 The Impact of World War II on Family Histories

05:42 Navigating Post-War East Germany

07:53 The East German Regime Through a Family's Eyes

10:31 Cultural and Educational Experiences in East Germany

23:23 The Challenges of Consumer Goods and Entertainment

25:39 School Life and Education in East Germany

34:17 Extracurricular Activities: Singing Club and Gymnastics

44:58 The Intensity of Gymnastics Training in East Germany

46:15 The Secret Gymnastics Pills

48:14 The Grueling Training Regime and Its Impact

49:46 The Power of Music and Discipline in a Regimented Society

50:38 The Harsh Realities of Military-Style Training

51:39 Life Under an Autocratic System: Acceptance and Adaptation

55:26 The Transition to College and the End of Gymnastics

55:56 Exploring Moscow: A Glimpse into the Space Race

01:03:37 Witnessing the Winds of Change: The Fall of the Berlin Wall

01:14:21 Navigating the New World: Post-Wall Challenges and Reflections

01:25:05 A Journey Back in Time: Revisiting Memories and the Stasi Files

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The Soviet-Afghan War lasted ten years between 1979-1989 and led to the deaths of between 500k and 2m Afghan civilians.

I speak with Nick Geering a Russian history and language teacher. From his memories of the haunting sight of uniformed amputees in St Petersburg to the complex origins of the conflict, we explore the intricacies of a war that was both an accident and a tragedy.

Our conversation traverses the murky politics that led to the Soviet invasion, the unpreparedness of the conscript-heavy Soviet army, and the brutal reality of life for soldiers caught in the mountainous terrain of Afghanistan. We also discuss the question of international support for the Mujahideen and the controversial impact of Western-supplied weaponry.

The episode also shines a light on the deeply entrenched hierarchy within the Soviet military, harrowing drug abuse among troops, and the chilling treatment of prisoners of war on both sides. As we approach the subject of the Soviet withdrawal, we reflect on the war's enduring scars, the fate of the communist Afghan government, and how the conflict is remembered today in Russia.

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00:00 Introduction to the Complexity of the Soviet-Afghan War

00:26 Diving Deep into the Soviet-Afghan War with Nick Gearing

01:38 Nick Gearing's Personal Journey and Initial Exposure to War Veterans

03:13 Exploring the Intricacies and Origins of the Soviet-Afghan War

16:17 The Soviet Military's Challenges and Adaptations in Afghanistan

28:52 Evaluating the Soviet Strategy and Its Impact on the War

32:51 Unveiling the Truth: The Soviet Union's Hidden War

33:44 Gorbachev's Legacy and the Path to Peace

34:27 Glasnost and the Afghan War: A Shift in Soviet Media

37:19 The Impact of Western Weapons on the Afghan Battlefield

39:31 The Unseen Side of War: Defections and Captivity

44:24 The Brutal Reality of Conscript Life in the Soviet Army

48:46 Drug Abuse Among Soviet Soldiers in Afghanistan

50:47 The Endgame: Soviet Withdrawal and the Geneva Accords

53:22 Najibullah's Struggle and the Fate of the Communist Government

54:46 Revisiting the Afghan War: Memory and Media in Russia

57:51 Exploring the Soviet-Afghan War Through Books, Films, and Music

01:03:17 Closing Thoughts and Acknowledgments

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Turning Point: The Bomb and the Cold War, is a nine-part documentary series from director Brian Knappenberger, that provides a comprehensive appraisal of the events that led to the Cold War and traces the conflict around the world and through the decades.

While the Cold War ended in 1991, even a casual appraisal of current headlines reveals that relations between the United States and Russia — the one-time centre of the Soviet Union — remain tense, to say the least. The global repercussions of the Cold War continue to ripple through the current geopolitical landscape to this day, but it can be difficult to understand just how a mid-20th century struggle for ideological dominance continues to ensnare countless nations in ongoing unrest.

To tell this story, the series draws on more than 100 interviews with subjects ranging from past and present world leaders (Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy, Estonian Prime Minister Kaja Kallas) to historians as well as everyday people whose lives were drastically altered by the events of the Cold War. As the history unfolds, each episode considers the current conflict between Russia and Ukraine as an example of how the history being examined is directly tied to the events of today. “Nearly every part of the war in Ukraine is an echo of the Cold War,” Knappenberger explains.

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00:00 The Chilling Call: A Cold War Nightmare

00:21 Welcome to Cold War Conversations

00:39 Inside 'Turning Point: The Bomb and the Cold War' Documentary

01:02 The Cold War's Legacy and Today's Nuclear Threats

03:15 The Making of a Cold War Documentary

05:09 Why the Cold War Story Matters Now

06:17 The New Cold War: A Hot and Unstable Conflict

10:24 The Munich Security Conference: A Turning Point

13:32 Crafting the Documentary: Challenges and Insights

15:06 Personal Connections and the Impact of Nuclear Weapons

19:32 The Importance of First-Person Cold War Accounts

19:59 Daniel Ellsberg: A Courageous Insider's Perspective

23:19 Uncovered Stories: The Challenges of Time Constraints

23:46 Exploring Untold Cold War Stories

24:37 The Intriguing Case of the AIDS Misinformation Campaign

28:14 The Ripple Effects of Cold War Decisions

28:45 Project Sapphire: Securing Nuclear Materials Post-Soviet Union

30:47 The Budapest Memorandum and Ukraine's Nuclear Dilemma

34:43 Post-Cold War Transitions and the Rise of Putin

41:18 Reflecting on the Series: Favorite Moments and Missed Opportunities

44:48 Dream Interviews: Cold War Figures Who Left a Mark

49:03 Closing Thoughts and Acknowledgments

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Alex Grant’s new book Sex, Spies and Scandal The John Vassall Affair has everything: a honey trap, industrial-scale espionage, journalists jailed for not revealing their sources and the first modern tabloid witch-hunt, which resulted in a ministerial resignation and almost brought down Harold Macmillan’s government.

With access to newly released MI5 files and interviews with people who knew Vassall from the 1950s until he died in 1996, this book sheds new light on a neglected spy scandal. Despite having been drugged and sexually assaulted by the KGB in Moscow, as a gay man John Vassall was shown no mercy by the British press or the courts.

Sentenced to eighteen years in jail, he served ten years, despite telling MI5 everything. Once released, he found that many of his old friends and lovers had been persecuted or dismissed from the civil service in Britain, America and Australia.

Unlike the Cambridge Five, who courted attention, after leaving prison Vassall changed his name to avoid the media and lived quietly in London.

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00:00 Introduction to Cold War Conversations and the John Vassal Affair

00:36 Unveiling the John Vassal Spy Scandal

05:49 The Life and Times of John Vassal

16:15 Vassal's Recruitment by Soviet Intelligence

37:08 Vassal's Espionage Activities in London

41:28 The Cold War Thaw and Social Dynamics in Moscow

42:24 Vassal's Entrapment and the Lax Security

43:56 The Discovery of a Spy Within the Admiralty

46:55 The Fallout of Vassal's Capture and Its Impact

48:33 The Dramatic Arrest of John Vassal

49:35 Vassal's Immediate Confession and Relief

53:05 The Aftermath: Legal Proceedings and Public Reaction

01:05:41 Vassal's Life Post-Imprisonment and Legacy

01:09:48 Revisiting the Impact of Vassal's Espionage

01:11:57 Uncovering New Insights from the National Archives

01:16:55 Reflecting on Vassal's Life and the Broader Historical Context

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V-Bombers: Britain's Nuclear Frontline in the Cold War is a new book by Dr Tony Redding that takes a deep dive into Britain's V-bomber force's operational nuclear war role.

Tony reveals the intense preparations and the stark realities faced by the aircrews, who lived in a perpetual state of wartime readiness despite being in a country at peace. The narrative intertwines technical analysis and personal accounts, offering a comprehensive view of the crews' complex systems and psychological burdens.

His meticulous research and vivid anecdotes from the veterans themselves paint a fascinating picture of the V force's potential impact in a nuclear war scenario.

It's a must-listen for anyone fascinated by the delicate Cold War balance of deterrence and the harrowing responsibilities entrusted to the men of the V bomber force.

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00:00 Introduction

00:35 Dr. Tony Redding's Deep Dive into V Bombers

05:59 The V Force: Britain's Nuclear Deterrent in the Cold War

11:22 The Evolution of Nuclear Deterrence: From Bombers to Submarines

24:10 The V Force's Combat Readiness and Training Rigors

34:26 Surviving a Nuclear Strike: The V Force's Strategic Planning

38:57 Airborne vs. Ground Alert: The Strategic Dilemma

40:12 The Impracticality of V Bombers in Nuclear Strikes

40:56 The Struggle for Airborne Endurance and Refueling

41:25 Exploring Overseas Basing and Tanker Fleet Limitations

42:46 Soviet Fears

44:19 Security Measures and Vulnerabilities at RAF Bases

47:46 Humorous and Harrowing Tales from the Aircrew

52:13 The Mental and Emotional Toll on Aircrews

57:31 Vetting and Security Concerns within the V Force

01:00:48 Navigating Soviet Defenses: A Hypothetical Mission

01:05:13 The Unique Challenges and Strategies of V Bombers

01:10:11 Secret Agreements and the Route Over Sweden

01:11:45 The Grim Realities of a Nuclear Mission

01:18:52 Decoy Tactics and Morale Issues

01:21:29 Conclusion and Further Resources

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Timo takes us on a journey through the tumultuous events of the 1991 Soviet coup attempt, as experienced from the streets of the Baltic States.

As the coup unfolds, Timo finds himself in Lithuania, planning to covertly visit the closed city of Kaliningrad. He shares the tension sharing a dining table with a Soviet officer, unknowingly on the eve of the coup.

As the coup escalates, Timo's narrative becomes a vivid street-level account of the Estonian people's defiance. He describes the formation of human walls against Soviet tanks, the strategic significance of the TV tower, and the Estonians' ingenious methods of maintaining communication despite Russian interference.

Timo's reflections on the morality of his curiosity, the fear of violence, and the spirit of resistance that pervaded Estonia during those critical hours are a testament to the resilience of a nation on the brink of reclaiming its freedom.

Timo’s book “Tanks & Roaches” is only currently available in Finnish, Estonian and Slovak and can be purchased on the links here https://coldwarconversations.com/episode334/

• Timo can be contacted at [email protected]



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00:00 Introduction

01:38 Timo’s summer in Estonia during the Cold War

09:52 The 1991 Soviet Coup and its impact on Estonia

20:34 Tom joins a demonstration

29:47 The confrontation between Estonian and Russian troops near the occupied TV tower

40:36 Estonians switched off the TV signal to calm down the Russians

41:57 The bravery of the four Estonian men who were locked inside the tv tower during the Soviet invasion

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Timo takes us to the remote Finnish border town of Kuusamo. He paints a vivid picture of a childhood overshadowed by his grandparent’s memories of their home lost during World War II and their proximity to the Soviet Union.

As a child, he was fascinated by the invisible line that marked the end of the world— the heavily guarded border with the USSR. Timo recounts a tense encounter with border guards while visiting his grandparents, and his meeting with a Soviet escaper.

He travels to Moscow and Eastern Europe as a young man which further fuels his curiosity about life on the other side of the Iron Curtain. Timo recalls the austere streets of Prague to the bureaucratic maze in Budapest and a harrowing night at the Romanian border.

Timo’s book “Tanks & Roaches” is only currently available in Finnish, Estonian and Slovak but can be purchased via our episode extras page here https://coldwarconversations.com/episode333/

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00:00 Intro

01:26 Timo's early life

04:41 Timo's grandparents' experiences of World War II

08:59 Incidents of people coming over the border

08:56 Estonian man's escape

28:32 Timo's trip to Moscow with his father in 1977

32:03 Finns remaining in areas handed over to the Soviet Union

39:34 Visits to Prague, Hungary and Romania

41:34 First Impressions of Prague

43:18 The challenges of Hungarian visitor registration

45:49 Trouble getting into Romania from Hungary

54:37 Polish smugglers on the train

59:04 Timo's fascination with Estonia.

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Leigh joined the RAAF in 1978 to train as a pilot but was scrubbed after a few months and transitioned to training as an Air Electronics Officer (AEO) at the RAAF School of Air Navigation.

He flew on the P-3C Orion and was employed in operations across the Indo-Pacific region on maritime patrol surveillance operations in the region - which included both usual surface surveillance of the region and operations alongside the US against Soviet submarines transiting the area.

He also had the opportunity to track Soviet SSBNs in the NE Pacific operating with the US Navy.

He details many incidents during his career including an “archaeological” mission, accidentally causing a diplomatic incident, as well as monitoring the splash-down and recovery of re-entry vehicles used to test the heat tiles for the Soviet Buran space shuttle.

I’m delighted to welcome Leigh Collins to our Cold War Conversation.

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00:00 Intro

01:49 Early interest in aviation and the military

02:47 Aspirations in the RAAF

04:08 Failure as a pilot

06:43 Length of Orion missions

09:05 Soviet naval activity around Australia in the 1980s

16:52 RAF 617 Squadron held their annual reunion in Australia

20:42 Use of GPS on the Orion

24:23 Use of astral navigation using a Sextant

27:59 Viewing the cockpit of the Vulcan

31:10 Monitoring a Russian diesel submarine

33:13 Soviet trawlers during exercises

34:23 Exercise Silent Pearl

43:49 Soviet Buran Space shuttle test bed recoveries

52:52 Incident just out of Darwin where the crew ditched

56:50 Operation Gateway, Australia's long-standing anti-piracy operation

01:03:39 Threat of China during the cold war

01:07:53 September 1993 deployment as a submarine observer

01:12:23 Leigh worked with Sue Boyd from episode 151

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In this deeply personal episode, our guest, Norbert, vividly recounts his traumatic childhood journey from Cold War Poland to the United States.

With vivid recollections, he describes the struggles of his parents amid food shortages and the poignant decision of the family to leave everything behind for an uncertain future in the United States.

We also explore the cultural shock and the struggle to find identity in a new world, as Norbert navigates life as a Polish immigrant in 1980s America. From his first bewildering day at an American school to his father's relentless work ethic in pursuit of the American dream, we witness the sacrifices and choices that shape an immigrant's life.

Norbert's narrative unfolds against the backdrop of the Cold War, where his family's German heritage in Poland subjected them to suspicion and prejudice. Our episode starts with his Grandfather’s story in World War 2.

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Dan served in the War Plans office of the US Army VII Corps working on counterattack plans and reorganization of the US Army’s General Defence Plan.

He describes the debriefing of a Polish Special Forces operator who had defected to the West and who revealed surprising knowledge of US plans and order of battle.

Dan also details his experiences on the Able Archer 83 exercise and his views about how dangerous that was.

In addition to his work in the War Plans office, we discuss terror attacks on the US Army in West Germany including the bombing of the LaBelle disco in West Berlin where 2 US soldiers and one Turkish woman were killed and 79 wounded.

The terrorist threat to US Forces was significant and this is highlighted by the attempted assassination of General Kroesen commander of United States Army Europe by the Red Army Faction aka The Baader-Meinhof Group. Dan describes his own experiences in the immediate aftermath of the attack., including the issuing of live ammunition to US Forces in the field.

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 0:00 Introduction

1:32 Dan's Insights in the War Plans Office

10:29 The defector's shocking intel on US plans

18:13 Reflections on Able Archer 83

24:33 Terrorism and the attack on the La Belle disco

33:21 Red Army Faction attempted assassination of General Kroesen

42:20 The impact of these events on US forces

58:41 Dan's views on the sudden changes in Eastern Europe

1:13:38 Podcast extras, appreciation for financial supporters, and closing remarks

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In August 1989, a group of Hungarian activists did the unthinkable: they entered the forbidden militarised zone of the Iron Curtain - and held a picnic.

Word had spread of what was going to happen. On wisps of rumour, thousands of East German 'holiday-makers' had made their way to the border between Hungary and Austria, awaiting an opportunity, fearing prison, surveilled by lurking Stasi agents.

The stage was set for the greatest border breach in Cold War history: that day hundreds would cross from the Communist East to the longed-for freedom of the West. The fall of the Berlin Wall, the end of the Soviet Union - the so-called end of history - all would flow from those dramatic hours.

Drawing on dozens of original interviews with those involved - activists and border guards, escapees and secret police, as well as the last Communist prime minister of Hungary Matthew Longo's book  "The Picnic - An Escape to Freedom and the Collapse of the Iron Curtain" reconstructs this world-shaping event and its tumultuous aftermath.

Freedom had been won but parents had been abandoned and families divided. Love affairs faltered and new lives had to be built from scratch.

The Picnic is the story of a moment when the tide of history turned. It shows how freedom can be both a dream and disillusionment and how all we take for granted can vanish instantly...

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0:00 Introduction to the episode by Ian Sanders

4:47 Discussion on the political situation in Hungary in the late 80s

13:11 Gorbachev's view on Hungary's reforms and changes

23:26 Reaction of Hungarian hardliners to Imre Nagy's reburial

29:41 The tense atmosphere at the Warsaw pact meeting in Bucharest

37:49 The origin of the idea for a European picnic at the border

48:02 The impact on the Berlin Wall

57:23 The fatal shooting of Werner Schultz

1:00:38 The rapid changes that followed the opening of the border

1:07:42 Victor Orban's reimagining of history

1:11:53 Conclusion and promotion of Matthew Longo's book, The Picnic

1:12:33 Acknowledgements and closing remarks

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Dan served as a lieutenant and captain in a US Army air defence artillery battalion in West Germany from 1980 until 1985.

He describes details of Soviet overflights deep into West Germany and we discuss how the Warsaw Pact attempted to track their units.

Now who knew that the US Army experimented with geese for perimeter security?! Dan reveals details of this little-known specialist unit.

Dan worked with the improved Hawk anti-aircraft missile system. We talk about its capabilities, the challenges of working with 1980s electronics, its deployment and exercises. He describes a live firing exercise where an errant missile almost wiped out a group of VIPS.

Don’t miss part 2 in a couple of weeks where Dan describes his experiences in the war plans office of the general staff.

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0:00 Introduction and background of Dan

1:32 The Improved Hawk missile system and its capabilities

10:29 Deployment to field locations and the challenges faced

18:13 Encounters with Soviet aircraft and military liaison missions

24:33 The innovative use of intruder geese for security

33:21 Live firing exercises and the dangers involved

42:20 The deactivation of an air defence unit and its implications

58:41 Reflections on service

1:13:38 Podcast extras, appreciation for financial supporters, and closing remarks

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The Jodrell Bank observatory in Cheshire in the UK played a significant secret role during the Cold War. It was established in 1945 by Bernard Lovell, a radio astronomer at the university, to investigate cosmic rays after his work on radar in the Second World War.

We hear some intriguing details of the site’s Cold War roles including being Britain’s first nuclear attack early warning station and its signals intelligence collaboration with GCHQ, the UK’s Government Communications Headquarters.

Even more surprisingly it’s also revealed how Soviet Scientists also worked at the site and that the Soviets attempted to get Bernard Lovell to defect during a visit to the Soviet Union.

I’m given a tour of the non-public areas by Tim O'Brien who is a Professor of Astrophysics.

Do make sure you check out the extensive photos I took at https://coldwarconversations.com/episode327/

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0:00 Introduction to the podcast

1:00 Jodrell Bank Observatory's role in the Cold War and its establishment

10:08 The birth and evolution of radio astronomy

15:50 The construction and purpose of the world's biggest radio telescope

32:46 The telescope's role during the Cuban missile crisis and its implications

51:05 The mission of GCHQ at Jodrell Bank and intercepting signals from the Soviet Union

1:04:21 Touring the secret tunnel and discussing its potential uses

1:14:51 Recounting the Soviet Luna 15 mission during the American moon landing and the role of Jodrell Bank

1:29:18 Episode extras and thanking financial supporters

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In the mid-1980s Dag was a T72 tank commander in the NVA, the East German Army and is now a volunteer at the Tank Museum at Bovington in

the UK.  

He describes his initial tank commander training, the battle readiness of the NVA, and the challenges of a conscript army as well as a startling revelation about a significant change in doctrine in 1987.

We also dig deep into the technical details of the T72, including the autoloader, deep water wading, radio communication and its advantages and disadvantages versus NATO tanks.

Dag also talks about how Soviet WW2 learnings were applied into the NVA, and his regiment’s role and deployment area in the event of war.

Dag shares a frank view and great insight into life in the NVA as a tank commander and the challenges of life beyond the NVA as the Wall opens and all he has known disappears.  

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0:00 Introduction

10:29 Briefing on NATO armour and perception of NATO as the enemy

18:13 Planning for potential conflict and readiness in the NVA

24:33 Understanding the roles and challenges in a conscript army

33:21 Performance and operational details of the T72 tank

42:20 Training, battlefield strategies and preparations

58:41 East German-Soviet relations and Warsaw Pact exercises

1:13:38 Reflections on service in the NVA and potential conflict with NATO

1:23:59 Reaction to the opening of the Berlin Wall and post-service encounters

1:27:34 Life post-unification: Expectations, reality and personal growth

1:31:28 Podcast extras, appreciation for financial supporters and closing remarks

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Kate is sent to Moscow in 1985 to write articles for The Morning Star, a left-wing British daily newspaper founded in 1930 as the Daily Worker by the Communist Party of Great Britain. She lives in a block of flats alongside Soviet citizens and enrols her 3 children in Soviet schools.

Three weeks after Kate arrives Mikhail Gorbachev comes to power and she finds herself having to cover the disorientating number of rapid reforms and attacks on the Soviet system by its leadership for a newspaper, that had always supported the Soviet Union.

Kate is fluent in Russian, speaks with Soviet citizens on the bus or at the shops, and visits every Soviet republic bar one of the then-largest countries on Earth. In 1986 she reported on the Chernobyl disaster and was one of the first journalists to arrive in the area.

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0:00 Introduction and background of Kate Clark

1:32 Journey to becoming a Moscow correspondent and life in Soviet Union

11:09 Placing Ket's children in Soviet schools and their adaptation

15:10 Bureaucratic challenges

18:08 Shopping habits and emergence of supermarkets in Soviet Union

21:00 Impact of Mikhail Gorbachev's leadership and his policies

33:34 Cultural accessibility, promotion and diversity in the Soviet Union

44:36 Covering the Chernobyl disaster and its aftermath

57:17 Relations with the British embassy and dealings with Soviet security services

1:04:47 Visit to Afghanistan and reflections on its political challenges

1:09:31 Reflections on the collapse of the Soviet Union and the role of Yeltsin

1:15:30 Kate's book, "Twilight of the Soviet Union", and closing remarks

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Tim participates in Kangaroo 89, a huge military exercise with the entire Australian Army using an area the size of Western Europe and we hear about the Australian equivalent of Wolfgang the Bratty Man who used to turn up on British exercises in Germany.

Tim was also part of an exchange program with the British Army and he describes his experiences there and the advantages and disadvantages between Leopard 1 and the British Challenger 1 tank

Tim also worked with the Bundeswehr where he had a fascinating encounter with a former East German tank commander. This is part two of my chat with Tim., Part one is episode 321 here https://coldwarconversations.com/episode321/

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0:00 Introduction

1:03 Kangaroo 89: Large-scale military exercise and logistical challenges

9:37 Leopard 1 vs Challenger 1: A comparison and discussion of their advantages

20:26 Evaluation of Russian/Chinese armoured vehicles and Soviet tanks

22:45 Discussion about the arms industry and British involvement in upgrading Iraqi tanks

28:28 Life in the field: Food, rations, and interaction with the local population

34:11 Night fighting capability of Leopard AS1 and limitations of infrared technology

39:24 Cold War tactics and concerns about signals intelligence

45:02 Exchange with the Bundeswehr and bonding with an ex-NVA senior NCO

51:59 Cold War-themed films recommendations and Australian contribution during the Cold War

54:02 Importance of individual Cold War stories and episode extras

55:00 Closing remarks and invitation to join the Facebook discussion group

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Since 1985, Ana Montes has been an asset of the Cuban intelligence service. In that time, she’s risen through the ranks to become one of the Pentagon’s most respected voices on Cuban affairs with easy access to classified documents.

Peter Lapp reveals Montez's tradecraft and how the FBI found the proverbial "needle in a haystack".

To learn more about the woman labelled "one of the most damaging spies in U.S. history" by America's top counter-intelligence official listen to episode 277.

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0:00 Introduction to Anna Montez and her role in the Cuban Intelligence Service

7:48 The process of identifying a spy within the US intelligence community

16:43 Introduction of Scott Carmichael and his role in the investigation

28:34 The potential involvement of Anna Montez's family in espionage

34:51 A mistake and the realities of surveillance

41:00 The importance of the Toshiba computer in Anna's arrest

52:22 Arrest of Ana Montez

56:18 The process of reaching an agreement with Ana Montez

1:03:16 Public perception and recognition of Ana Montez post-arrest

1:04:11 Introduction of the book giveaway

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In 1966 most of Bridget’s friends, in their early twenties, were settling down with jobs and/or husbands…

She, on the other hand, set off alone to travel across Poland relying on the kindness of strangers. Fascinated by what she experienced she continued to wander the highways and byways of, Hungary Czechoslovakia, Romania, Bulgaria and Yugoslavia for the next couple of years seeking out remote rural communities almost untouched by the passage of time...

Bridget travelled with virtually no money, however, this was not a problem but an opportunity: it enabled a rare and deep insight into the lives and experiences of ‘ordinary’ people in these Warsaw Pact countries.

We hear how she stumbles across remote German minorities, gets arrested by border guards and finds love in a youth hostel in Munich.

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0:00 Introduction to the episode

3:06 Bridget's journey and adventures in Poland

12:18 Bridget's job in Germany and exploration of the iron curtain

15:56 Bridget's smuggling adventure in Slovakia and visit to Hungary

26:02 Bridget's journey to Yugoslavia and her experiences there

32:04 Socio-economic situation and life experiences in Slovakia

34:36 Encounter with West German border guards

37:16 Meeting Bill in Munich and travelling to Romania

43:30 Journey to Bulgaria and experiences there

48:34 Using travel diaries to write "Cold War, Warm Hearts"

53:01 Acknowledging financial supporters and engaging with listeners on Facebook

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Many of Tim’s family had served in WW1 and WW2 and from a young age, he was determined to follow their path.

Overcoming huge competition for places he became a driver of the Leopard AS1 MBT at 1st Armoured Regiment of the Australian Army.

Australia is largely ignored in most Cold War histories, however, we hear how the Australian Army prepared to fight the Musorians, a thinly disguised notional enemy which was obviously the Soviets or one of their satellites in everything but name.

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0:00 Introduction and Tim Whitford's early life and influences

7:48 Tim's involvement in the reserves and training details

12:16 Transition to the regular army and experience with basic training

19:41 First encounter with the Leopard tank and training experience

28:42 Comparison of Leopard and Centurion tanks

33:57 Posting to the 1st Armored Regiment and first deployment

43:41 NBC training and river forwarding capabilities of Leopard tanks

51:30 Reaction to the fall of the Berlin Wall and shift in military roles

55:09 Preview of Part 2 and recognizing financial supporters

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Jack Wesolek was born in East Germany in 1966. His grandfather was a member of the Red Orchestra, a Communist Anti-Nazi resistance organisation in Germany during World War 2. He later became Chief of the Signals Service of the Volksmarine, the East German Navy. In the 1980s an East German Army signals regiment was named after him.

Jack’s father was an actor and we discuss how accurate the depiction of East German actors is in the film “The Lives of Others”.

At age 6 his parents divorce and Jack stays with his father and grandmother in Rostock where he learns more about his grandfather’s story, however, he is separated from his brother who goes to live with his mother.

Jack has an Uncle who was captured escaping from East Germany and was bought out by West Germany in the 1970s. At a clandestine meeting in Hungary they hatch a daring plan for Jack to escape across the Inner German Border, the fortified frontier between East and West Germany.  

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0:00 Introduction and background of Jack Wesolek

3:19 Recollections of his father's actor friends

5:20 Jack's views on artistic freedom and family's political climate in East Germany

18:12 Life with grandmother and school experiences

32:20 Military training as part of school curriculum

37:48 Relatives in West Germany and uncle's imprisonment for attempted escape

41:12 Planning and preparation for escape to West Germany

1:00:43 The escape and crossing the border

1:04:33 First moments of freedom and reflections on life in East Germany

1:07:10 Registering as a refugee and first contact with family in East Germany post-escape

1:14:04 Stasi's interrogation and impact of Jack's escape on his family

1:20:36 Episode extras and closing remarks

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On 23rd Nov 1963 at Kunsan Air Base, South Korea a detachment of US Air Force B-57 Canberra bombers were parked on an alert pad each with a live nuclear weapon in their bomb bay and ready to fly at a moment’s notice.

At 0400 klaxon horns aroused the crews from their slumber and they rushed to their waiting aircraft, for what they likely thought was just one more drill 

But this morning was different.

As the crew strapped themselves into their cockpits, they were told to await a signal to fly their war mission…

With targets in North Korea, China, and the Soviet Far East, the aircrews instinctively knew they would be flying one-way missions. But they had no idea as to why they were facing potential oblivion.

I talk with US Marine Veteran John F. Davies who has researched the little-known story of the military response to the assassination of President John F. Kennedy.

Extra episode info including videos here https://coldwarconversations.com/episode319/

Do you have any further information about this episode, contact John via email at JFD3vet "at"protonmail.com

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0:00 Introduction and background

1:34 John Davies' military service and reaction to JFK's assassination

6:38 Initial military reaction to JFK's assassination and subsequent actions

11:18 Events unfolding in Washington post JFK's assassination and transition of command authority

16:13 Dean Rusk's and Admiral Harry D. Felt's response to JFK's assassination

20:45 The military response in Europe and Strategic Air Command situation

26:21 Exceptions in the military response - Fort Bliss, Texas and Cuba

31:46 President Johnson's return to Washington and easing of crisis atmosphere

34:09 Changes in command and control post November '63 and handling of information

43:41 Reflections on the importance of telling this story and predictions on Kennedy's continued presidency

46:29 Acknowledgement of financial supporters and Facebook discussion group

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Kevin was born in Wigan in North West England and joined the RAF as an apprentice in 1956 with only 3 O Levels. He came top of his course but was posted into supplies at RAF St Mawgan. However, he quickly became in charge of their clothing stores and via a fortuitous route became a trainee pilot.

By May 1963 he joined the RAF V Force as a Vulcan pilot and served with 44 Squadron where Vulcan crews were being converted to low-level flying.

He describes the challenges of low-level flying, Vulcan handling, and the immense power of the Vulcan’s engines and training in Canada.

We also hear about the different methods of nuclear bomb release, what it was like to be on Quick Reaction Alert, and his targets in the Soviet Union.

Kevin also flew a number of the Queen’s birthday flights up the Mall and describes a near collision on one of these events in cloud.

He also remembers some of his colleagues who never came back from missions.

Extra episode information including videos here https://coldwarconversations.com/episode318/

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0:00 Introduction and Background of Kevin

3:35 Kevin's Journey from Corporal Supplier to Vulcan Pilot

9:49 Kevin's Experiences and Training as a Vulcan pilot

18:20 Low-Level Flying, and Navigating

23:43 Quick Reaction Alerts and Nuclear Bomb Release

29:57 Post-Bomb Release Plans and Popular Media Depictions

33:22 Incidents, Implications, and Personal Views on nuclear Weapons

37:33 Responsibility of a Vulcan's Crew and recalling past incidents

39:17 Kevin's experience with Other V Bombers and survival training

42:06 Kevin's participation in Bombing Competitions and Closing Remarks

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Andrew McNeile decided to travel through Eastern Europe in a yellow MG Midget Sports car, a ​car ​that's ​going ​to ​stand ​out ​no ​matter ​where you are!

He recalls his adventures travelling through East Germany, Poland, Czechoslovakia, Bulgaria, Romania, and Yugoslavia

He talks about the warmth and friendliness of people, challenges with petrol quality, and an accidental visit to a nudist beach.

Peter Ryan is your host today and I’m delighted to welcome Andrew McNeile to our Cold War Conversation…

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0:00 Introduction and overview of the episode's guest, Andrew Nielle

0:31 Andrew's journey through Eastern Europe in a yellow MG midget sports car

4:21 Reaction of Andrew's family and friends to his travel plans

7:13 Planned itinerary for the journey through Eastern Europe and Turkey

10:01 Describing the border crossing experience into the East Bloc from Germany

16:05 Reflections on the separation between East and West Germany and the construction of the Berlin Wall

24:25 Unexpected nudist beach experience in Romania

28:12 The challenges of travelling by car in Eastern Europe

32:19 Favourite country visited during the road trip: Czechoslovakia

35:57 Relief of returning to the West and impressions on Soviet rule

37:11 Closing remarks

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This week is the 40th anniversary of the Able Archer NATO Exercise where it is reckoned that the Soviet Union and NATO almost started a nuclear war.

1990 an investigation by the US President’s Foreign Intelligence Advisory Board, culminating in its highly secret report “The Soviet ‘War Scare’” The detailed PFIAB report concluded that the U.S. “may have inadvertently placed our relations with the Soviet Union on a hair trigger”.

The following is an audio version of the talk I delivered to the Manchester Military History Society in October 2023. 

Documents, videos, and other extra episode information here https://coldwarconversations.com/episode316

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0:00 Introduction and overview of the episode

1:14 Comparison of the 1983 crisis and the Cuban missile crisis

2:38 Detente and the state of US/Soviet relations in the 1970s & early 80s

4:24 Introduction Ronald Reagan and his policies

5:25 Introduction to Yuri Andropov and his policies

8:56 Soviet intelligence Operation Ryan's purpose and indicators

12:49 Fleetex 83 US naval exercise appears to confirm Soviet suspicions that US is planning an attack

16:33 The downing of Korean Airlines Flight 007

22:30 Incidents soon after the Korean Airlines shootdown

26:08 Soviet early warning system warns of US missile attack

30:06 The US military intervention in Grenada

34:21 Brigadier General Leonard H Perroot's role in averting a nuclear war during Able Archer 83

41:43 Double agent's contributions to Western intelligence

51:26 Controversy about how close we came to nuclear war around Able Archer

54:30 Acknowledgement of financial supporters and continuation of Cold War conversation on Facebook

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Denmark joined NATO as a founding member in 1949. However, it originally laid down limitations to NATO membership, effectively excluding the country from full military integration. The conditions were threefold: no non-Danish bases, no nuclear warheads, and no Allied military activity on Danish territory.

Bo Hermansen served in a conscript reconnaissance platoon of the Danish Jutland Dragoon Regiment during the 1980s. His squadron was part of the divisional reconnaissance for the Danish Jutland division which was tasked to move into the north of West Germany and link up with West German units to stop a Warsaw Pact advance into Jutland.

Bo describes Denmark’s political stance during this period where the election of President Reagan in the US and his policies regarding defence caused some concern in Denmark and elsewhere in Europe. We hear of his unit’s tactics against the Warsaw Pact, the exercises he participated in, the rivalry between units, and why a Danish tank was painted pink!

It’s a fascinating view into the organisation and tactics of one of the lesser-known members of NATO.

Extra episode information here https://coldwarconversations.com/episode315

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0:00 Introduction to the episode and guest Bo Hermansen

7:31 Bo's decision to join the military and family reactions

12:33 Training, challenges, and transition to a professional soldier

19:46 Role and composition of the 5th Battalion of the Jutland Dragoon Regiment

28:42 Preparations for war: Major exercises and deployment practice

35:16 Relations with the Germans and other international troops during the Cold War

43:45 Importance of history and ethos in the Jutland Dragoons

51:32 Transition to green and black paint for Danish vehicles: Controversies and anecdotes

1:00:09 Escape and survival training in the Danish Army

1:08:06 Dedication to Bo's platoon and episode extras

1:08:33 Closing remarks

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On 29 August 1949 at 7:00 a.m. the Soviet Union exploded its first atomic bomb. 

The test stunned the Western powers. American intelligence had estimated that the Soviets would not produce an atomic weapon until 1953, while the British did not expect it until 1954.

The speed at which the Soviet Union developed their bomb was due a network of spies from the United States, the United Kingdom, and Canada who gave the Soviet Union the necessary information to develop an atomic bomb

They were motivated by a range of factors. Some, such as ideology or a belief in communism, were committed to advancing the interests of the Soviet Union. Others were motivated by financial gain, while some may have been coerced or blackmailed into spying. 

I speak with author Andrew Long who has written “Secrets of the Cold War – espionage and intelligence operations from both sides of the Iron Curtain” which covers this story and many others.

Buy the book here https://uk.bookshop.org/a/1549/9781526790255

Book Giveaway info here https://coldwarconversations.com/giveaway/

Extra episode information here https://coldwarconversations.com/episode314/

Other episodes

Interview with a KGB agent trained by two of the Atomic Spies https://coldwarconversations.com/episode140/

The Portland Spies https://coldwarconversations.com/episode138/ & https://coldwarconversations.com/episode139/

Ottawa Soviet defector Igor Gouzenko https://coldwarconversations.com/episode194/

Ethen Rosenberg https://coldwarconversations.com/episode184/

 Guy Burgess & The Cambridge 5 https://coldwarconversations.com/episode148

Kim Philby’s granddaughter recollections https://coldwarconversations.com/episode228/

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0:00 Introduction to the podcast and the topic of the Soviet Union's first atomic bomb

1:13 The history of atomic physics and the conceptualization of the atomic bomb

6:34 Collaboration between the US and the UK on the atomic bomb project and its aftermath

11:24 Espionage and the role of spies in the Soviet Union's acquisition of atomic technology

20:50 The Cambridge Five and how Cairncross broke the story to the Soviets about the atomic bomb project

33:33 The contribution of Ted Hall and George Koval to Soviet Intelligence

38:27 British spy Klaus Fuchs's role at Los Alamos and his ideological motivations

51:49 Fuchs's contribution to the Los Alamos setup and the plutonium bomb

59:12 Post-war movements of the atomic spies and the unraveling of the Soviet Spy network

1:10:02 The arrest and conviction of Klaus Fuchs and the Rosenberg case

1:15:29 The fate of the spies and the impact of atomic espionage on the Cold War and global power dynamics

1:25:14 Introduction to Andrew's book and closing remarks

1:26:20 Podcast outro and acknowledgments

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