Body Bags with Joseph Scott Morgan

In Part One of "The Public Execution of a CEO: The Murder of Brian Thompson" Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack discussed the background of the alleged shooter and how the weapon involved would work. In Part Two, Joseph Scott Morgan goes in-depth into the weapon and ammunition used as well as the physical damage that would be done to a person hit with such ammunition. Dave Mack covers what was written in the "notebook" found in Luigi Mangione's backpack when he was arrested as well as "The Manifesto" Mangione is alleged to have written as well as the charges he currently faces.

Transcript Highlights

00:00:00.71 Introduction Part Two

00:00:27.62 Hardware used - Ghost Gun 

00:04:53.34 Ammunition used

00:09:16.25 Words Written on shells

00:14:12.34 Words written on shells

00:18:59.48 Handwriting analysis

00:23:22.98 Mansion was not a customer of United Healthcare

00:26:10.23 The Notebook and the Manifesto

00:31:12.50 Conclusion 

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This episode of Body Bags with Joseph Scott Morgan is a look at the death and autopsy of John Wilkes Booth.  Booth shot Abraham Lincoln from behind around 10:15 pm April 14, 1865. He died the next morning, April 15, at 7:22 am. Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack will uncover the track that Booth took as he tried to escape, and finally being shot himself. Joseph Scott Morgan will make you feel like you witnessed the autopsy yourself as he explains, in great detail, the autopsy of John Wilkes Booth.   

Transcribe Highlights
00:13.63 Introduction - autopsy of John Wilkes Booth
01:45.79 Discuss Forensic expert is a history fan
05:09.53 Talk about the Booth acting family
08:22.93 Discussion of how Booth wrecked everything
12:47.62.Talk about Booth jumping to stage
18:45.53 Discussion of expectation
22:49.66 Talk about the conspiracy
27:50.24.Discussion of Booth broken leg
32:01.96 Talk about comparing Lincoln to Kennedy
38:40.42 Discussion of Booth not getting help
41:08.80 Talk about getting Booth on boat
48:59.90.Discussion of putting a door on saw horses as a table
50:03.11 Talk about Autopsy in 1800s
52:18.34 Discussion of Booth being wrapped in military blanket
56:27.97 Conclusion, Lincoln wanted the country to heal  

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In part one of this two-part series on Body Bags hosts Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack take listeners through the assassination of President Abraham Lincoln and its aftermath. They describe the chaos at Ford's Theater, the attending physicians' struggles as they assessed Lincoln's condition with limited medical knowledge and tools, the removal of Lincoln's body, and the irony of increased security after the assassination. They also delve into the autopsy process, highlighting the physicians' extensive experience and the challenges they faced.

Time-codes:

00:20 - Start of show.

01:35 - John Wilkes Booth's actions in the theater.

02:00 - Immediate response to the shooting.

02:35 - Lincoln's condition when the surgeon arrived.

03:15 - Initial confusion among the audience.

04:00 - Booth's calculated timing for the shooting.

05:30 - Surgeon realizes Lincoln's gunshot wound location.

05:55 - Limitations of medical knowledge and tools.

07:40 - Lincoln stops breathing and has dilated pupils.

08:10 - Surgeon removes clot, Lincoln breathes again.

09:20 - Difficulty transporting Lincoln to the White House.

09:55 - Physicians try to locate the lead ball in Lincoln's head.

11:30 - Attempt to drain blood and reduce intracranial pressure.

12:00 - Lincoln's death at 7:30 a.m.

13:50 - Lincoln remains unconscious throughout the ordeal.

16:40 - Removal of Lincoln's body from the boarding house.

17:15 - Absence of security and irony of increased security.

18:00 - Lincoln's tendency to dismiss security.

18:40 - Lincoln's body conveyed to White House for autopsy.

19:55 - Handsaw used to open Lincoln's skull.

21:10 - Delicate nature of dissecting the brain.

22:15 - Autopsy challenges: lack of electricity, reliance on touch.

23:00 - Physicians' extensive experience in dealing with trauma.

29:40 - Modern gunshot wound examination process.

30:30 - Role of x-rays in understanding bullet trajectories.

31:15 - Autopsy confirms nothing could have saved Lincoln.

32:55 - Limitations of 1800s medical treatments.

33:30 - John Wilkes Booth's autopsy.

34:50 - Physician's anger and resentment towards Booth.

35:30 - Booth's body relocation before returning to family.

36:05 - Outro.

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Mary Kay Heese was 17-years-old when she was murdered and dumped in a ditch in March of 1969. Mary Kay Heese did not go down without a fight, she fought back, but died from multiple stab wounds. Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack talk about how the case went cold but the family kept working the case. Year after year. Joseph Scott Morgan will explain what it took to solve a case that was cold for more than half a century, and how 55-years after her lifeless body was found in a ditch, an arrest is made in the murder of Mary Kay Heese.

Transcript Highlights

00:00.35 Introduction - 55 year cold case

04:07.70 The Family keeps looking for answers

10:02.66 Parents have passed, but cousin fought for justice

15:01.01 Finding a hair and fiber evidence
 
20:07.30 Body found near home

25:05.68 Perp dumped body in ditch

30:03.39 Mary Kay Heese fought back

35:29.16 Two suspects, one commits suicide in 1977

40:06.78 A Suspect is found

44:08.09 Arrest is made, more to come

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Luigi Mangione allegedly shot and killed CEO of United Healthcare Brian Thompson on December 4, 2024. The suspect in the shooting is a 26-year-old person of means; smart, educated, and now, possibly a killer. Joseph Scott Morgan breaks down the type of weapon used and how it would function, the ammunition used, as well as the damage it could do to the intended target. Dave Mack tries to fill  in the background of the story as it continues to evolve. This is Part One of Two.

Transcript Highlights

00:00:00.71 Introduction

00:00:57.91 Growing up spoiled

00:05:28.58 Luigi Mangione manifesto

00:08:55.84 Mangione creating characters on computer

00:12:26.42 Chronic pain in lower back 

00:17:38.37 Description of using 3D printed gun

00:24:56.27 Scheduling an event, waiting for victim

00:28:37.77 Suspect and weapons

00:33:23.74 Description of "site picture"

00:38:29.89 Shot and effect on body
 
00:39:01.33 Conclusion of part one

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Shamra Felkel is last seen in Hartselle, South Carolina, on September 25. On October 7, friends and family report her missing.  Shamra Felkel's daughters, Karli Felkel and Kasey Wolfe begin searching right away but say local law enforcement isn't taking the case seriously. 11 weeks after she vanishes into thin air, Kasey Wolfe gets an anonymous tip that leads her to ask a close family friend to search the Ruby Road area near her mother's property. The friend discovers human remains and calls authorities. Deputies respond and rope off the area. Joseph Scott Morgan explains what condition the remains will be in after being buried near a dry well for over two months and what will be learned at autopsy.  

Transcript Highlights
00:00:13.06 Introduction
00:04:55.00 We are creatures of habit
00:10:14.37 Graveyard or Cemetery
00:14:40.13 Building a well
00:19:18.58 Who found the body of Shamra Felkel
00:25:00.66 After remains are found....what happens next
00:30:13.69 Investigators haven't announced type of strangulation
00:35:21.26 Charges of murder, kidnapping, obstruction of justice
00:39:05.01 Conclusion

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A Shot in the Dark: Investigating Lincoln's Assassination and the Chilling Conspiracy | Part 1
In part one of this two-part series on Body Bags we delve into the assassination and autopsy of President Abraham Lincoln. 
Hosts Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack analyze the character and motivations of John Wilkes Booth, the layout of Ford's Theater, and the negligent behavior of John Parker, assigned to protect the president. They provide a fascinating explanation of the Philadelphia Deringer's firing mechanism, including its unique preloading process and firing sequence as well as going into Booth's meticulous planning, highlighting his knowledge of the play's comedic timing, Lincoln's potential focus on the orchestra pit, and the painstaking preparation involved in using the Deringer. Throughout this captivating episode, listeners uncover the chilling details and lasting impact of one of the most infamous moments in American history.

Time-codes:
00:25 - JoScott’s surprise at visiting presidential assassination locations.
01:30 - Description of Ford's Theater and the assassination scene.
02:20 - Introduction of Lincoln's assassination and autopsy topic.
06:10 - Discussion of access to the president during Lincoln's time.
07:10 - How did Booth gain access to Lincoln's box at Ford's Theater?
08:45 - Lincoln's well-publicized attendance at the theater.
10:35 - Comparison of past and present presidential security measures.
11:10 - John Parker, the inept officer assigned to protect Lincoln.
13:40 - Background on John Wilkes Booth and his Southern cause support.
16:00 - Long-lasting impact of Lincoln's assassination on the country.
18:15 - Specifics of the weapon used by John Wilkes Booth.
21:35 - Importance of caliber and limitations of Booth's weapon.
23:40 - Preloading the Philadelphia Deringer and its hammer mechanism.
24:55 - Comparison of the Deringer's firing sequence to modern weapons.
26:20 - Demonstration of the Deringer's firing sequence and sound.
27:10 - Proximity of Booth to Lincoln when he fired the weapon.
27:50 - Booth's understanding of the play's comedic timing and assassination planning.
29:40 - Discussion of Booth's planning and escape plan.
30:30 - Process of loading the Derringer and importance of seating the bullet properly.
32:15 - Please join us next time for part two!

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When Joseph Scott Morgan was on his first date with his wife Kim she asked him what he did for a living. When he responded by telling her that he worked for the Medical Examiner, essentially the coroner, examining dead bodies and performing autopsies, she looked at him with a puzzled expression…We all have aspects of our lives that are unusual, whether it’s our family, our habits, or our jobs. But when we do these things every day, they become so normal to us that we don’t even question them anymore. In this special episode of Body Bags, forensics expert Joseph Scott Morgan and Jackie Howard go into depth on the touchstone of forensic death investigation: autopsies. They discuss what an autopsy is, who can order one, the different kinds, and how Joe ended up in this unique profession. 

Show Notes

:0:00 - Intro

2:07 - What is an autopsy?

4:10 - Who determines when an autopsy is done? Why would you not do one?

7:40 - Can an autopsy be done even if the family doesn’t want it?

9:58 - Gloria Satterfield’s cause of death

12:45 - Are there different kinds of autopsies?

17:55 - Joe’s experience in the autopsy room

18:56 - What is a full autopsy and how long does it take?

26:50 - Can certain autopsies be prioritized?

30:22 - Is an autopsy considered surgery?

34:05 - How did Joseph Scott end up working in a morgue?

38:50 - Seeing bodies in all different kinds of states

41:40 - How does Joe’s family deal with his line of work?

43:45 - Joe’s take on his career

45:21 - Wrap up

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The body of Melody Hoffman is discovered on a cold February morning. The person who finds her body calls 911 and describes her beautiful skin, she has all kinds of marks on her back, "like slashes" and her hands are curled in a way they shouldn't have been. She has been left in the freezing cold with nothing on but her underwear. Joseph Scott Morgan will explain how it is possible that the 20-year-p; has slashes across her back and has lost a lot of blood, but that isn't what killed her. Dave Mack digs into the different relationships that led to the murder of a 20-year-old woman who just wanted a boyfriend to care about her.

Transcript Highlights

00:01.16  Introduction

04:29.89 Melody Hoffman is missing

09:45.20 Melody might have been pregnant

14:30.41 Buy killing supplies

19:19.24 Picture on phone of Melody beaten, crying, tape over mouth

25:49.51 Murder happened February 18th, very cold

30:46.08 Does weather impact dead body

35:26.44 How much abuse had boyfriend put her through

39:39.14 Melody was strangled to death

47:58.86 Why was body left where it would be found

Conclusion

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17-year-old Esther Gonzalez is walking from her parents house to her sister's house, and she never arrives. The next day her body is found in a snowpack on the side of the road. She has been raped and bludgeoned to death. The man who finds the body, Randy Williamson, talks to police and is described as argumentative. He ends up taking a polygraph and passes. With the only person of interest eliminated, the case goes cold. Joseph Scott Morgan explains what happens to a body over time and how the evidence gathered by detectives in 1979, made it possible to solve a cold case 44-years later. To learn about the incredible work being done by Othram labs take a look at www.othram.com. Othram: A revolution in Cold Case Resolution.

Transcript Highlight

00:01.65 Introduction
02:58.10 Geography of California
05:00.02 Snow and Surf on the same day
09:56.34 No surveillance cameras, easy dumping ground
15:01.25 Body of Esther found in snowbank
20:00.88 Why was "the finder" arguing with police?
25:18.98 Esther Gonzalez was raped and bludgeoned to death
30:00.11 The "finder" passes a polygraph test
35:44.63 Hairs that co-mingle
40:09.99 Detectives never gave up, kept investigating
44:59.73 Othram got a match to Randy Williamson. 

He was the killer. He died in 2014.

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Dead bodies and romance.....in Horry County South Carolina, Meagan Jackson is a contractor for the county delivering dead bodies to the morgue of the funeral home. She and her longtime boyfriend Gregory Rice have broken up and they are negotiating custody and support for their four children. Deputy Coroner Christopher Dontell is married to a school teacher and they have two children. The deputy Coroner and the woman bringing dead bodies to the morgue strike up a romance. When Gregory Rice goes missing and turns up dead, suspicion falls on his ex, Meagan and her new boyfriend, the very married Deputy Coroner, Christopher Dontell. Joseph Scott Morgan will explain what happens in the world of death investigation and how people can grow close to their coworkers under extreme circumstances. Joseph Scott Morgan will also take a close look at Meagan Jackson and Chris Dontell - did she think Dontell, because of his occupation, would know better how to get rid of a dead body? Dave Mack will help untangle the web of lies as Joseph Scott Morgan explains why Dontell has changed his plea and what will happen when he testifies against the woman who was carrying his child when her ex-boyfriend is found dead. 

Transcribe Highlights

00:00.50 Introduction

03:29.84 South Carolina has rich Coroner history 

05:12.67 Elected Coroner in Horry County

10:03.41 Explaining "Livery" service

14:52.41 Deputy Coroner having affair with woman who delivers bodies

20:11.42 An affair the includes death and getting rid of body

24:25.02 Special training, would a deputy coroner have a better idea how to get rid of a body

29:57.62 Questions of a death investigator 

35:05.65 Digital evidence puts suspect at the scene of where body is found

41:08.05 Conclusion - Deputy Coroner cuts a deal and will testify for the state

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We revisit the Murdaugh trial in which South Carolina lawyer, Alex Murdaugh, is currently facing trial for the murder of his wife Maggie, and his son Paul. As the trial continues, we are learning more information about the nature of the crimes and how exactly they played out.In this episode of Body Bags, forensics expert Joseph Scott Morgan and special guest co-host  Dave Mack discuss the specifics of both Paul and Maggie’s injuries, why the prosecution uses diagrams vs. photographs when showing evidence in court, whether Paul had any defensive wounds, and much more. 

Show Notes:

0:00 - Intro1:18 - Background and overview of the case

2:35 - Using diagrams in court vs. photographs

6:05 - Paul Murdaugh’s injuries

11:15 - The second shot to Paul Murdaugh’s head

14:50 - Paul’s face left intact

19:25 - Were there any type of defensive wounds on Paul?

20:30 - Maggie Murdaugh’s injuries

23:30 - Stippling around Maggie’s wounds

26:00 - Shot to the abdomen

29:00 - Was this overkill?

31:00 - Wrap up and outro

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November 22, 1963: John F. Kennedy, the 35th President of the United States, was shot and killed during a presidential motorcade in Dallas, Texas.The President is taken to Parkland Memorial Hospital.

By law, Dallas County Coroner Dr. Earl Rose had jurisdiction over the case and should have performed the autopsy. However, against Dr. Earl Rose's protestations, the body of President Kennedy was wrapped in a sheet, placed in a casket with a broken handle, and flown over 1,300 miles away to Washington DC, where 2 naval doctors, who had never conducted a forensic autopsy performed the autopsy on John F. Kennedy. 

Join Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack as they take a close look at the autopsy that was so bad, 60years later questions are still being asked. 

Time Code Highlights
00:00:10 Introduction 
00:01:21 The ripple effect of the assassination of JFk
00:04:31 The moments following the shooting of JFK in Dealey Plaza
00:06:02 Talk about how autopsy "Standard Procedures" were not followed 
00:06:51 Texas state law and jurisdiction over investigation and autopsy
00:07:58 Board Certified Forensic Pathologist Doctor Earl Rose was chief medical examiner for Dallas, Texas at the time and was at Parkland Memorial Hospital
00:09:22 JFK body taken from Dallas to Washington DC for autopsy
00:10:59 Secret Service preparing for President trips.
00:11:36 JFK physical condition after being shot.
00:12:52 Injuries to JFK, at least 2 gunshot wounds. 
00:13:31 Tracheotomy that was performed to establish an airway
00:15:04  Dr. Earl Rose and how his experience was dismissed
00:16:23 Dr. Earl Rose KNEW he was looking at a Murder Investigation.
00:17:47 Discussion Dallas County had jurisdiction over the body.
00:19:03 Talk about autopsy of JFK should have taken place in Dallas
00:20:08 Previous Presidential assassination, Lincoln, Garfield, and McKinley and their autopsies.
00:22:10 Dr. Earl Rose did the autopsy for Oswald, Officer Tippit, and Jack Ruby.
00:23:36  JFK body being taken to Washington DC 
00:25:16 Comparing Bethesda Naval Hospital to Walter Reed Hospital 
00:26:04 doctors chosen to perform JFK autopsy
00:28:42 why doctors turned bullet wound into tracheostomy
00:29:55  Presidents body wrapped in sheets. Head wrapped in gauze
00:31:09  JFK clothing, tie changed the trajectory of round.
00:32:58  Other clothing worn during the assassination
00:33:44  "magic bullet" going through JFK and Governor Connally, 
00:35:08 Secret Service agents washed interior of Presidential limo. 
00:36:03 Talk about crime scenes - bone fragments found and turned in later
00:37:02 Description of President's head, skull came apart in doctors hands.
00:38:04 Discussion of Assessment
00:40:02 Talk about x-rays that were done on body
00:41:58  Description of the Bethesda autopsy suite 
00:43:51 Ballistics expert Dr. Pierre Fink, forensic pathologist, came to Bethesda 
00:44:53  JFK brain was removed before Dr. Fink arrived
00:46:05 Description of "Brain Loafing".
00:47:22 The autopsy of JFK was not a complete autopsy
00:49:21 Discussion of "family wishes" as it applies to the murder of the president.
00:50:48 Compare autopsy of John F. Kennedy and Robert F Kennedy
00:52:36 Discussion about other pathologists available to do autopsy on JFK
00:55:09 No way to know if other injuries suffered by JFK could have been lethal
00:56:04 Commentary - no excuse for what happened with autopsy of JFK

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In the summer of 1989, a construction crew working in the basement of a building at the Medical College of Georgia in Augusta stumbled across thousands of human bones. The acquisition and disposal of the remains has been kept secret. 

It happens again in 1994, a crew discovered an old well containing human remains while constructing a new medical sciences building on the campus of the Medical College of Virginia (MCV) at Virginia Commonwealth University. The well is called the Limb Pit. 

It happened one more time at Harvard in 1999. During renovations at Harvard’s Holden Chapel in 1999, a worker operating a mini bulldozer stumbled across human remains when his machine broke through a wall into an old well.

Joseph Scott Morgan explains how it's possible to find human bones that have been hacked, cut with a saw, chisel, or knife, and then hidden so the law can't find them.....and it isn't a crime. 

Transcript Highlight
00:00.01 Introduction 
04:35.58 Resurrection - Grave Robbing 09:40.88 Studying medicine, finding bones
14:08.17 Doctors who have never dissected a body
19:18.35 Bones used by medical schools
23:17.45 Medical college paying grave robbers
28:16.99 Getting rid of bones without getting caught 32:11.18 Doctors had no opportunity to study the human body
38:59.35 The Limb Pit - Chris Baker MCV
40:17.79 Harvard had name for club that dug up bodies
44:00.58 Mass burial of bones, no names 
47:27.15 Conclusion

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The Piketon Massacre happened when 8 members of the Rhoden family were wiped out in one night at four different locations. Billy Wagner, the patriarch of the Wagner family, and the accused leader of the murderous rampage, is finally going to trial next month. With 8 murders and four crime scenes, Joseph Scott Morgan has a lot to explain. He will take you inside the trailers and talk about how forensic evidence was damaged by law enforcement.  As in all cases a person is innocent until proven guilty and  Billy Wagner continues to plead not guilty to all 22 charges including eight counts of aggravated murder from the execution-style slayings of his son’s ex-girlfriend and seven of her family members in April 2016.

Transcript Highlights

00:02.98 Introduction

02:12.91 The Piketon Massacre

05:32.43 Who Could have pulled off killing 8 people in one night

10:04.49 Killer lays baby next to dead mothers' breast so he wouldn't go hungry

15:02.77 Billy Wagner trial coming up next year

19:53.21 Wagner's in Alaska,, woman escapes in fear

25:02.16 Baby Sophia was not in trailer, she was with grandmother

30:08.95 Billy Wagner had moved away from family

35:09.77 So many oddities in the Piketon Massacre 

40:13.85 How will Billy Wagner be defended

42:33:26.Conclusion

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Joseph Scott Morgan has covered the Missing Kansas Moms story on Body Bags since it began. He continued that coverage with the autopsy report of Jillian Kelley a few weeks ago, and now Joseph Scott Morgan breaks down the 16-page autopsy report of Veronica Butler that begins with the Circumstances of death, then moves into the Assault with a knife, including THIRTY (30) Sharp Force Injuries, defensive wounds, and much more.

Transcript Highlights

00:04.93 Introduction

02:19.20 Life of Veronica Butler ending at age 27

04:27.17 Recovery from addiction issues

09:09.39 Requests to review autopsy reports

14:27.64 Defining "full thickness" 

21:53.93 6 defensive injuries on Veronica's right hand

27:58.81 Autopsy report as a life road map

33:31.71 Appears someone was trying to cut her throat

38:09.54 Hemorrhages communicating, happened while alive

41:51.46 Why is Obesity mentioned in report

45:05.53 Conclusion

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One year ago, Joseph Scott Morgan explained the death of Reeva Steenkamp at the hands of the "Bladerunner", Oscar Pistorius. One month after the episode dropped, Oscar Pistorius was released from prison on parole in January of 2024. We thought it would be a good time to review the case and see what Pistorius has been doing since his release from prison. Based on his conditions of parole, Pistorius is not allowed to do interviews, but his lawyer, Julian Knight, told People he spent the first four months out of prison getting settled into a quiet life in Pretoria where he is living with his Uncle, Arnold Pistorius.  The home is a  24-room Mansion, a fortified compound located with armed guards, electronic defenses, and attack dogs.Although he is not required to wear an electronic monitor, a parole officer checks on him at random hours of the day or night. He is not allowed to drink alcohol or do drugs. He cannot be on social media and is forbidden from contacting the Steenkamp family. A Tabloid headline about Pistorius screamed: From Olympics to Prison to Janitor - and that is somewhat accurate as he is doing some janitorial work. According to his parole paperwork, Pistorius has listed his volunteer work at NG Kerk Waterkloof, the Dutch Reformed Church attended by his uncle. He does light maintenance and janitorial work and quietly attends services. Parishioners told The New York Post that he is serious and doesn’t interact with others.

Transcript Highlights

00:00.96 Introduction 

01:00.02 Update on Pistorius out of prison

06:17.82 Explaining the tibia

12:04.25 Pistorius and Steenkamp dated 90 days

19:17.30 Shooting through a door

24:41.68 Shot through hip - loud scream

28:18.94 Pistorius one of the most famous people in the world

32:39.17 Steenkamp bled to death

34:04.17 Pistorius Update

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In part two of the New Jersey Mansion Murders, Joseph Scott Morgan explains how investigators determined the fire in the mansion is actually arson to coverup the brutal murders of Keith and his family. The fire at Paul Caneiro's home is quickly determined to be arson and Paul Caneiro is arrested the day after the fire. Paul Caneiro's wife and adult daughters think he is a hero for waking them up and getting them out of the house safely and vow to testify on his behalf.  A few days after Paul Caneiro is charged with setting fire to his own home, he is charged with the murder of his brother and Keith Caneiro's family. Prosecutors say Paul Caneiro was motivated by greed.  Three days before the killings, Keith Caneiro told his father-in-law, Vlassis Karidis, that Paul had stolen $90,000 from the children's college funds, and that he was planning to cut off the $225,000 salary that Paul drew from a family business.  Autopsies show that Keith, Jennifer, and Jesse Caneiro all died instantly, but Sophia lived for 9 hours and died from smoke inhalation. This has led Sophia Caneiro's maternal grandfather, Vlassis Karidis, to file a wrongful death lawsuit against Paul Caneiro.  Because Sophia survived her parents, she inherited their estates and died intestate, passing the estates to her grandparents, and Karidis has standing to bring the claim.

Transcribe Highlights

00:02.96 Introduction Part Two, New Jersey Mansion Murders

04:53.02 Shooting adults, stabbing the children, 8 and 11

10:17.82 Keith Caneiro shot in head and lower back

15:06.25 Projectile investigation

20:17.30 Fire started in early morning,  not reported until after 12 noon

25:45.68 Fire Hose would go right over a body in the yard if needed

30:28.94 When door opens, fire hit with oxygen

35:04.17 20 different fire companies involved for hours to put out mansion fire

40:15.09 Investigators knew the scene was more than just a fire

47:02.93 Autopsy determines Sophia lived 9 hours, died from smoke inhalation

49:41.57 Conclusion - waiting for trial 

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Paul and Ketih Caneiro are brothers and business partners. They live 10 minutes from one another in New Jersey and on November 20, 2018,  both of their homes were on fire.  About 5 a.m. the police received a report of a fire burning at 27 Tilton Drive in Ocean Township, Paul Caneiro's home.  Arriving on the scene police and fire fighters find Paul, his wife, and two adult daughters , all safe outside the home.  In the first hours of the investigation officials determine the fire at Paul Caneiro's home appears to have been intentionally set and gas cans are found on the premises. While the investigation is taking place at Paul Caneiro's home, a fire is reported at the home of Keith Caneiro.  While the fire at Paul Caneiro's home consisted of two fires near the perimeter of the home,  the fire at Keith Caneiro's home takes 20 fire companies hours to get under control.  Investigators quickly discover the fire at Keith Caneiro's mansion was staged to cover up the murder of Keith Caneiro, his wife, Jennifer, and their two young children, Jesse, 11 and Sophia, 8.  Keith's body is found in the front yard, dead from multiple gunshot wounds to the head and back.  The body of Jennifer Caneiro is found inside the house with a gunshot wound to the head and multiple stab wounds. The bodies of the children are found inside with multiple stab wounds.  Joseph Scott Morgan will explain the different scientific disciplines used in solving a murder or multiple murders when fire is used to destroy evidence.

Transcript Highlights

00:00.54 Introduction,

02:00.69 Joe's respect for firefighters

04:55.44 Fire and murders took place in November 2018

10:04.10 Fire started on purpose 

15:16.22 DNA expert from New Zealand 

21:01.75 A financial motivation to the murders

24:56.51 Paul accused of taking money from college accounts for Keith's children

30:13.51  Data presented in court will be very complex

35:10.18 Fire at Paul Caneiro home, two set in perimeter areas of home

39:59.24 Mansion is not close to neighbors

42:43.90 Keith shot multiple times, no gun found

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Nov. 19, 1978The remains of Theresa Marcoux and Mark Harnish were discovered after an officer from the West Springfield Police Department located a 1967 green Dodge pickup truck owned by Harnish, parked in a roadway rest area on Route 5/Riverdale Street. Their bodies were lying by a nearby guardrail." "The officer saw that the driver's side window of the truck was damaged and noticed blood in and around the vehicle," the police post added, stating the victims — who had last been seen alive at approximately 12:30 a.m. that morning when leaving a friends' party — "appeared to have sustained gunshot wounds."  No Firearm is found at the scene but investigators do find a fingerprint...the suspects' left thumb print is found. The "latent print" is found in what appeared to be blood on the passenger-side vent window.....but no match is found and the case goes cold. Joseph Scott Morgan breaks down fingerprints and how they are of no use if you don't have something to compare it to. Joe will also show how the suspect almost got away with a double homicide.  

Transcript Highlights

00:00.00 Introduction

04:04.70 Changing from analog to digital

05:30.85 History of fingerprinting

10:04.68 Truth about fingerprints

15:15.96 A print on the scene 

19:26.74 Old Truck with bullet could be old

24:34.49 There was an "ear witness"

29:17.43 Blood and drag marks

35:03.19 Was glass embedded in the bodies

40:01.98 A match

42:45.74 Conclusion - arrest

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When a body is found in a trashcan by workers of the Canton Parks Department, it doesn't matter that the park is called City Field Park.  For decades City Field Park was known as "Mother Goose Land" so when the workers call 911 to report a dead body in a trashcan, they tell 911 to send help to Mother Goose Land. Joseph Scott Morgan will turn the pages of his own storybook to find out how a simple "wellness check" turns so evil, so fast. How did a 24-year-old woman wind up dead and thrown away like garbage and who is responsible for such a horrible murder.

Transcribe Highlights

00:00.00 Introduction

05:02.22 Joe relives childhood in New Orleans

10:00.21 Mother Goose Land and a body in the trashcan 

15:09.92 Making a welfare check, door is open, nobody is home

20:21.00 After getting search warrant, deputies proceed into apartment, signs of bloody fight

25:09.76 Workers find body and call 911

30:10.14 Sean Goe cut holes in Raychel's car tires

34:56.46 Raychel's body wrapped in plastic

40:01.86 Raychel has 10 specific blunt force injuries, one from hammer

45:02.88 Raychel died from blunt force trauma
Conclusion - Sean Got convicted in her death

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Madeline Jane Kingsbury, 26, and Adam Fravel, 29, are no longer a couple but they are still living together while Kingsbury looks for a place to live.  Kingsbury and Fravel take their two children, ages 5 and 2, to daycare on March 31, around 8am and return home at 8:15am. Madeline Kingsbury is never seen leaving the house, but she mysteriously vanishes. Just over two months later, on June 7, 2023, the remains of Madeline Kingsbury are found near property owned by the parents of Adam Fravel. Joseph Scott Morgan takes a look at the case and determines what caused the death of a 26-year-old mother of two whose remains have been left to decompose for over two months. 

Transcript Highlights

00:10.14 Introduction 

05:00.51 Madeline Kingsbury - vanishes after dropping children off at daycare 

10:02.20 Madeline and Adam Fravel are breaking-up but still living together

15:02.91 Investigators build a timeline starting with March 31, 2023

20:02.78 Population density of Winona, farming communities, big search area

25:06.37 Early into investigation police said her disappearance is involuntary

30:30.69 Body found obscured in a culvert

35:20.79 Madeline's body wrapped in fitted sheet matching other sheeting used in her home

40:01.77 Cause of death - homicidal violence
 
43:03.24 Conclusion

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Jillian Kelley, 39, and Veronica Butler, 27, disappeared in late March while on a trip from Hugoton, Kansas, to pick up Butler’s children. Their abandoned car was found 3-miles from their intended location and there are signs of struggle near and in the vehicle. On April 14, nearly two weeks after they went missing, investigators discovered their bodies sealed inside a freezer and buried under concrete in a remote area of a leased field. Joseph Scott Morgan will explain the details of Jillian Kelley's autopsy, what it is like to find two bodies in one location, buried together, and what new information is known after going over the autopsy report. 

Transcript Highlights

00:00:11.31. Introduction - update Kansas Moms 

00:01:31.84  Jillian Kelley Autopsy

00:03:18.70 Explanation of custody arrangements

00:06:47.31 Autopsy room

00:11:28.26 Freezer with bodies inside dropped into a hole that is 10 feet deep

00:16:12.44 Looking at the tracks around the area where freezer was buried

00:21:31.67 Opening the freezer in the lab

00:26:29.62 Know idea of what type of evidence will be recovered 

00:31:30.98 Veronica Butler Autopsy expected later, Jillian Kelley Autopsy now

00:36:02.75 Veronica Butler body on top of Kelley. Bodies removed

00:41:04.70.Kelley has defensive wounds, grabbed blade of knife with her hand

00:46:03.01 Difficult to determine the order of when injuries occurred

00:51:02.87 Injury with hemorrhage
 
00:54:54.03 Conclusion: another update when Veronica Butler autopsy released

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On a hot August day in the Nevada desert, two hikers find the body of a young woman about 20 miles east of Las Vegas near the Gypsum Wash in Clark County. The next day, August 28,  the Clark County Coroner’s Office identified the victim as 27-year-old  Melonie White. Her death is listed as homicide due to strangulation and blunt force trauma to the head and police say she was also dragged behind a car before her body was left in the desert. Melonie and her infant son moved to Las Vegas with her boyfriend four months earlier from Phoenix, Arizona. But the boyfriend doesn't get a job and leaves Melonie alone with her baby in Las Vegas. Police investigate the case but fail to develope a viable suspect and the case turns cold. Joseph Scott Morgan will explain how the case that went unsolved for 30 years has finally been solved with DNA, gentic genealogy, and Othram.

Transcript Highlights

00:00.00 Introduction - First trip to Las Vegas

02:21.07 Death of Melonie White, 30 year mystery
 
05:06.81 Melonie White beaten, strangled, dragged by car into desert

10:12.12 Brothers report Melonie missing

16:26.41 Police say Melonie was tied to back of car and dragged

21:11.46 Las Vegas is an Oasis surrounded by nothingness

26:05.98 Joe describes other evidence needed 

31:22.50 No Lack of trauma

35:19.83. Very personal attack

40:16.59 Describing solving cold case 

41:34.76 Genetic Genealogy solves murder

44:27.92 Conclusion: Case solved after 30 years

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Sara Bermudez, 38, and her three children, Madison, 8, James, 6, and Michael, 2, are viciously attacked in the middle of the night while they sleep.

The murderer Sexually assaults Sara and her 8-year-old daughter, with a knife and stabs the family to death before setting them on fire. Sara's father finds the carnage and calls for Help. Investigators catch a break in that the killer tried to use diesel to fuel the fire but it burned itself out before totally destroying all the evidence.

Joseph Scott Morgan is going to take you inside the master bedroom and explain how investigators find a suspect from a portion of body fluid left behind at the scene. And the suspect isn't just close to the family, he is family. 

Transcript Highlights
00:00.96 Introduction - chewing and identity
04:20.45 Somebody breaks into a home in the middle of the night Slaughters the mom, daughter, two boys
09:20.18 Family murdered and set on fire
14:12.60 Disturbing element to the case 
18:12.07 Setting up a line to prevent contamination
22:57.18 Evidence of sexual assault
28:07.64 Knife used in sexual attack
32:56.90 Blood stains found on walls, carpet, lamp, other items
37:12.63 Finding blood in the fire
42:00.92 Mother defended her children
44:58.66 Conclusion

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How does a 130 pound, 58-year-old woman, put her 6'3", 300 pound husband on a burn pile?

When law enforcement was called to a farm outside of Atlanta, they were told a body was found burned up in a burn pile. Taking a quick look around, the body is burned beyond recognition, but it is probably 58-year-old Gary Farris. He and his wife Melody live on the 10-acre farm.  Gary Farris is a big man, 6 foot 3 inches tall, 300 pounds, it looks like he might have had a heart attack and fallen into the burn pile, dead. His body is burned to the bone and he is identified by dental records. But before this death can be written up as a natural death, a bullet is found lodged in one of his ribs! Joseph Scott Morgan will unpack what it's like to investigate a death that starts in a burn pile and Dave Mack will share how investigators put together a case that ends up with Gary Farris wife, Melody, convicted for his murder.

Transcript Highlights
00:00.47 Introduction - moving heavy weight

04:31.17 How to move 300 pounds of dead weight

09:45.12 What happens to a body when it is burned

14:06.78 Melody Farris burns body of husband

19:01.72 Can't get a height on a body that's been burned

25:52.49 Collecting body from burned area

30:37.21 How big is a bullet?

34:34.87 What was used to start fire?

39:29.36 Smell of Citronella at burn pit

42:02.85  Conclusion 

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Shayna Hubers calls 911 from Ryan Poston's condo in Highland Heights, Kentucky, and tells dispatch "I killed my boyfriend in self-defense". Hubers tells police Ryan Poston had been beating her all day long, tossing her around like a rag doll, and when he pulled out his gun, she grabbed it and shot him in the face. Police read Shayna Hubers her "Miranda" rights, and Hubers asks for a lawyer.  Even though Shayna Hubers has just been told she "has the right to remain silent" she lacks the ability, and tells investigators that she shot him twice in the face, then, as he was twitching, she said she thought he was going to die anyway or his face would be really deformed so she shot him 4 more times to make sure he was dead. Shayna Hubers tells police "I gave him the nose job he always wanted."  Joseph Scott Morgan explains how the crime scene and Ryan Poston's clothes tell a different story than the one Shayna Hubers is telling and Dave Mack digs into the background of an 18-month relationship that ended in the murder of a man who seemed to be everyone's favorite person.

Transcribe Highlights

00:03.40 Introduction - Rhinoplasty

04:55.81 Hammers, Chisels, and black eyes

09:27.14 Hubers gave boyfriend the "nose job he always wanted

14:58.88 Shayna Hubers and Jody Arias

20:15.42 What happened when Ryan Poston was murdered

25:04.98 True case of domestic abuse

30:20.01 Difference in bullet size

35:01.84 Stippling present on Ryan Poston

39:38.81 Hubers claims of abuse unfounded

44:21.70 Blood on shirt and pants indicates Poston seated

48:14.50 Conclusion

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James Skinner begins doing some work inside his home outside of Chicago when he finds a human skull stuffed in a wall! Not wanting to be accused of a murder, Skinner calls police and they investigate as far as they can in 1978, and after identifying the skull as human, the case goes cold and police send the skull to the  Batavia Depot Museum for storage. The skull was forgotten until March of 2021 when supervisors at the museum discovered a box with the skull inside. Joseph Scott Morgan will take you through the investigation that identified the skull and Dave Mack will tell the backstory of the 17-year-old girl, Esther Ann Granger, who died in 1866 and how did her skull end up inside the wall of a home outside of Chicago.  A cold case solved with Othram Labs.

00:00:04.46 Introduction

00:04:09.88 A Human skull found inside a wall 

00:10:20.41 Explaining what happens to bones that are protected from elements

00:14:14.68 Joe talks anthropology

00:19:09.14 Other than bones, a Bonet was discovered with skull

00:24:31.45 Discussion of Dr. Clyde Snow and his work

00:30:10.59 Age of bones determination

00:34:04.70 Othram Labs identifies a living relative 

00:40:36.81 Esther Granger identified, died during childbirth

00:42:36.56 Conclusion - Othram Labs www.dnasolves.com

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Delphi Murder Trial: What REALLY Happened to Libby and Abby
Body Bags Delphi Murders Part 2

Libby German and Abby Williams vanished from a public park area in broad daylight on February 13. Witnesses were all around, but nobody saw what happened to the girls. The girls were on the High Bridge at 2:13 pm taking pictures and posting them online. By 3:15 Libby isn't answering her phone and nobody can find the girls. Police are called early but Libby and Abby are nowhere to be found. The bodies of Libby and Abby are found on February 14. They were murdered. Joseph Scott Morgan has been involved in the case since it began and has met with Family members but waited until some of the forensic information was available so he could break it down and explain what the science tells us about the deaths of Libby German and Abby Williams

Transcript Highlights
00:00:00.89 INTRODUCTION: Delphi Murder Trial PART TWO 

00:02:00.29 Delphi Case-specifics of the box cutter

00:04:19.95 Blood four feet up from the ground

00:10:15.62 Recording Bridge Guy 

00:15:10.56 Law Enforcement knows evil is in the area

00:20:16.14 Other suspects, Keegan Kline

00:25:11.54 Describing the bodies

00:30:10.84 Libby was outgoing, Abby was quiet

00:35:02.39 How could one person control both girls

00:40:20.38 Discussion of the unfired bullet

00:45:00.12 Conclusion Trial is ongoing

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Liam Payne became a huge star as a member of One Direction and he has
been very public about his struggles with alcohol and depression. He recent 
death shocked millions of fans around the world. Joseph Scott Morgan takes
a close-up look at "Pink Cocaine" and other drugs rumored to be in Liam Payne's
Hotel room and what really happened in the moments before Liam Payne plunged to his death from his hotel balcony.

Transcript Highlights
00:14.53 Introduction - celebrity deaths

03:02.27 The death of Liam Payne

05:06.76 Living Recovery

10:02.36 Why do musicians have issues

14:08.85 Pink Cocaine - New?

20:15.60 Walter White - Blue Meth

24:58.34 Liam Payne talked about his life with alcohol

29:24.53 Autopsy 

34:35.74 Hotel was warned about a guest and balcony

39:13.93 Looking for security cameras

43:28.79 Was his death witnessed?

47:48.18 Conclusion - Dial 988

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Libby German and Abby Williams vanished from a public park area in broad daylight on February 13. Witnesses were all around, but nobody saw what happened to the girls. The girls were on the High Bridge at 2:13 pm taking pictures and posting them online. By 3:15 Libby isn't answering her phone and nobody can find the girls. Police are called early but Libby and Abby are nowhere to be found. The bodies of Libby and Abby are found on February 14. They were murdered. Joseph Scott Morgan has been involved in the case since it began and has met with Family members but waited until some of the forensic information was available so he could break it down and explain what the science tells us about the deaths of Libby German and Abby Williams. 

00:00:00.89 INTRODUCTION: Delphi Murder Trial

00:02:36.29 Delphi Case - getting to know Libby's grandparents

00:07:19.95 Who knows about a "snow day" "teacher day"

00:12:15.62 By 5pm Libby and Abby are missing

00:17:10.56 Libby and Abby not dressed for running off

00:22:16.14 Elderly gentleman finds the girls, turns his back, waits for police

00:27:21.54 Trial underway: More info available 

00:32:10.84 The Reason a large crime scene is created

00:37:02.39 Libby's shirt found tossed in tree

00:40:20.38 Trial is ongoing, this is the first show on Delphi
There will be more shows coming up

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Anthony Maggio has two children with his fiancé and has another child with his girlfriend. After a discussion about child support,

Ashtin Eaton is found dead on her kitchen floor by her 11-year-old daughter. Her 14-month old daughter Hazel is found smothered to death on her bed. What looks like a possible murder suicide turns out to be a double homicide. On this episode of Body Bags,

Joseph Scott Morgan will explain how investigators knew in the first few minutes that Ashtin Eaton did not kill her baby and commit suicide, and Dave Mack will break down the family dynamic that Anthony Maggio created, then destroyed.  

Transcribe Highlights

00:00:08.88 Introduction - Jury Duty

00:05:01.57 Anthony Maggio is engaged and has a girlfriend

00:09:52.16 Maggio's girlfriend and daughter are both killed

00:15:23.08 The "Finder" is 11-year-old daughter of girlfriend

00:19:57.83 Daughter sees purple discoloration on face and injury to left arm

00:25:13.33 Box cutter creates the injury on the victim

00:30:48.67 Smothering is an action that takes place

00:35:04.18 Reports mentions no sexual assault

00:40:17.40 Suicide by cutting wrist would not cause head to turn purple

00:41:45.79 Conclusion - The man called for jury duty passes out

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A Montana man, Dustin Kjersem, sets off on a camping trip. When he doesn't meet up with his friend at an appointed time and location the friend goes looking for him. When the friend makes it to Dustin, he calls 911 and reports his friend is dead from a Bear Attack! Joseph Scott Morgan explains how experts determine the shocking attack that caused the death of Dustin Kjersem was not done by a bear, it was someone swinging some type of weapon in a "chopping" motion. 

Transcript Highlights
00:20.21 Introduction

02:00.71 Savage Death 

04:56.01 Joe talking about Bear story

09:38.49 Victim is a "Man's Man"

15:01.06 The "Finder" and the "victim" both experienced
          No sign of bear activity

19:48.73 Injuries so shocking it must be a Bear Attack

25:13.58 A Bear would tear down tent in an attack

30:12.97 A Bear is constantly looking for food

34:27.69 Weapon like a hatchet

39:45.60 Expect fractured, fragmented bone

43:22.39 Chopping motion would cause blood spatter

47:25.54 Conclusion - not a bear attack

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The murder of Michael Jordan's father, James Jordan, was a very sad story that led to Michael Jordan retiring from Basketball in 1993. In 1996 Daniel Green was convicted for the murder based on the testimony of Larry Demery who took a plea deal and testified against his childhood friend, Green. Green was convicted and sentenced to life in prison. 28 years later, the judge who sentenced Green to prison for life believes he was wrong, and wants to help get Daniel Green out of prison. Joseph Scott Morgan will explain how James Jordan ended up cremated as a an unidentified homicide victim "John Doe" in South Carolina, and Dave Mack  look behind the headlines to find out what really happened when the father of the most popular man on the planet vanished into thin air.

Transcript Highlights

00:26.31 Introduction - Being a Dad

04:14.50 James Jordan, father of Michael Jordan

09:11.94 James Jordan is missing, July 23, 1993

14:04.27 Using a swamp to get rid of evidence

19:01.45 Condition of James Jordan's body

23:10.14 Identifying a body. Jordan identified with dental records

27:23.88 James Jordan's body cremated as a "John Doe". Head and hands removed, kept for identification

32:36.18 Post-Mortem death investigation. Death was from gunshot wound to chest

37:01.94 County did not have cooler to store body

41:13.25 Car is found stripped down and stashed in the woods

46:00.01 Judge wants Daniel Green released, says evidence didn't support conviction

49:57.53 Blood evidence found in backseat

50:21.30 Conclusion

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Crystal Rasch is missing and her husband is using her bank card to purchase cleaning supplies. He also fails to report his estranged wife missing. Joseph Scott Morgan  explains the cleaning materials used as well as the type of experts that have to be brought in when investigators suspect a victim has been cremated in a backyard burn pile. Dave Mack will help uncover the relationship that left Crystal Rasch identified by a single tooth and her husband in jail. The trial has yet to happen but this is the first part of the story of Crystal and Zachariah Rasch. 

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00:13.30 Introduction - back from London

01:00.71 Strangers in London tell Joe to watch for "pickpockets"

05:03.49 The married couple had separate bank accounts

09:55.96 Working a case from back to front

15:08.97 CCTV Records coupled with receipts from purchases

20:29.75 Wife missing, husband admits spending her money with her card

25:57.18 List of searches done on phone, gunshot wound to head vs chest

29:51.13 Search warrant explanation

35:07.58 Evidence found in a car, what to take out

39:31.91 Relationships between law enforcement and experts

44:02.09 Investigators find a tooth

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Quinton Simon is just 20-months old when he vanishes from his home. His mother and her boyfriend claim they Woke up, the front door was ajar, and Quinton was gone. Searches are conducted, the mother's story is vetted. Eight days into his disappearance, law enforcement announces they do not expect to find Quinton alive and his mother,Leilani Simon, is a suspect. Joseph Scott Morgan goes deep into the investigation, explaining what it is like to look for a child.What do searchers hope to find in a landfill and what can they expect to find. Joe Scott explainsDave Mack will fill in the background on all of the adults involved as this case continues to move through the system.Will there ever be justice for Quinton Simon?

Transcript Highlights

00:00.01. Introduction - Liars

01:20.05  The death of Quinton Simon

05:08.07   Detective says within every lie is a nugget of truth

10:07.10.  Story about someone coming into house makes no sense

15:35.82.  Talking about death investigations of children

20:21.01.  Looking for a child, close look. Finding Quinton, alive.

26:08.66   Perpetrator will take everything wrapped around victim

31:18.61. Garbage trucks push down on the waste, compressing

36:39.54   In a landfill,  everything looks the same

40:26.66  Dealing with skeletal remains, what will you find?

45:04:13  Conclusion - Mom and Grandma drinking in bar while people are looking for Quinton

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In April of 1982, Velma Nesset was attacked while she walked to work. When the 64-year-old woman didn't arrive at her job in the Permian Mall in Odessa, Texas, co-workers knew something was terribly wrong. Velma Nesset is a reliable, well-liked employee and co-workers, friends, and family begin searching immediately.  Police are contacted and a missing person report is filed. Hours after she should have arrived at work, the partially nude body of Velma Nesset is found in a drainage culvert. Joseph Scott Morgan will explain what took place in the investigation from the moment her body was found all the way through more than 20 years of investigation.  Dave Mack helps explain how a suspect who confessed to the murder was acquitted in a jury trial a year after the murder, and how a very cold case became very hot - 20 years after the murder. 

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00:29.66 Introduction - walking for fun
01:45.05 Velma Nesset, 64, walks to and from work
04:55.58 You can tell a lot about the suspect by how they treat the dead
09:06.25 Being stabbed or choked is intimate 14:40.57 Velma Nesset was stashed in a culvert 18:44.62 The suspect grabbed Velma Nesset in broad daylight
21:23.40 Blood would be everywhere, especially on the suspect
25:28.52 In 1982, DNA was not part of the solution for crimes
29:21.02 Description of evidence that would be gathered from body 
34:23.78 Texas has a program to test old sexual assault kits
38:07.00 Comparing DNA to unsolved cases
43:32.59 Cold Case Murder solved with genetic genealogy

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Nancy Grace joins Joseph Scott Morgan to talk about their years working together in front of the camera as well as their time BEFORE they were both on TV.  This is the first episode to be recorded in the brand new facility at Jacksonville State University, where Joseph Scott Morgan is the Distinguished Scholar of Applied Forensics. Nancy Grace talks with Joe about Chris Watts, Ellen Greenberg, and the most recent events in the Scott Peterson case. Recorded Live at JSU on October 9, 2024

00:57.81 INTRODUCTION 

02:33.81 When did Nancy Grace and Joseph Scott Morgan meet?

05:08.13 Talking about working with Nancy Grace on HLN

10:16.87 Nancy talks about victim families. Kaylee Goncalves in particular

15:07.06 What is the biggest need for prosecutors from Forensics, be prepared

20:26.83 Talking about people coming from rural areas and metro areas

25:55.57 Processing an outdoor scene

30:19.17 The importance of the right time of death

35:42.26 Talking about Ellen Greenberg case.

40:24.33 Scott Peterson and the new testing of duct tape

45:19.91 Training Evidence custodian and the chain of evidence

50:16.21 Multiple areas of Forensics

52:47.16 Conclusion - Thanks to Nancy Grace

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Shortly before 11 pm on a Sunday night, Annette Jackson calls the Calhoun County Sheriff's office to report her daughter missing.  Living in the town of Farnhamville with a population of just 400 people, Annette Jackson and  another daughter set out on foot to see if they can find Luna. As they are walking, calling out for Luna, they come upon a man, Nathaniel Bevers-McGivney, who appears to be covered in blood and he is in possession of Luna's scooter and other personal effects. When Police find Bevers-McGiveney, they read him his Miranda Rights and he immediately asks for a lawyer. Questioning ends before finding out where Luna is. Joseph Scott Morgan will dig into the forensic evidence to identify what could have happened to the teen as well as where it happened.

Transcript Highlights

00:00:00.00 Introduction 

00:04:03.54 Mom reports daughter, 17,  missing, starts looking

00:08:04.52 Mom sees a man, appearing to be covered in blood, with Luna's scooter

00:12:19.82 Description of passive action, preventing finding of body

00:17:45.25 Location of body

00:22:15.61 Is there an attempt to obscure who Luna was?

00:27:01.48 How did perpetrator know about location to hide body

00:32:18.54 Was this a sexual assault gone "bad"?

00:36:40.66 Very Personal, cutting of a throat is intimate

00:40:20.04 Prosecutor possibly seeking oversight due to size of community

00:42:43.14 Conclusion, will continue to update

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Lisa Snyder calls 911 after discovering her 8-year-old son Connor and 4-year-old daughter, Brinley, hanging in the basement. When EMTs arrive, the children are still hanging....and still ALIVE. Today on Body Bags, Joseph Scott Morgan will share his personal experiences with hangings and explains what is to be learned from the scene as Dave Mack takes a look what the mother claims and what the facts of the case prove. Murder or Suicide, the deaths of Conner and Brinley Snyder.

Transcript Highlights

00:20.99 Introduction

01:39.59 Two Children found hanging in basement 

04:19.14 Suicidal ideation with vocalization

09:37.34 Discussion of death by hanging

14:59.93 Children were hanging but still alive

19:49.57 Not an accident

24:50.58 8-year-old Connor has dexterity issues

29:02.38 Children fully aware of what was happening to them

33:28.72 Description of what would have taken place if Snyder is telling the truth

38:24.73 Struggling with issues Crisis line 988

39:05.42 Conclusion

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On a Friday afternoon in North Myrtle Beach a 911 call comes in about a person apparently injured on the side of the road under an overpass. By the time help arrives, the victim is dead and the person that called 911 has vanished. No eyewitnesses but lots of information. The victim appears to have been shot in the face, her car is still running, her phone is inches away from her fingers and is working as there are messages and email chimes going off. The woman's purse with cash is inside the car, her name is Amber Berbiglia, 23-years-old. Joseph Scott Morgan will explain how the first impression that Amber was shot in the face with a gun turns out to be wrong and Dave Mack will breakdown the timeline on a murder that happened on a sunny afternoon near the beach that has gone as cold as a winter snow storm. 

00:00  Introduction

02:06  Amber Berbiglia Unsolved murder

05:05  How paying a bill in person plays into the story

09:20 Encampents under overpasses

15:11 Woman laid out dead on side of road

19:28  Amber's Cell Phone used up until

2:3024:30 What made Amber stop her vehicle

28:51 Wound so bad it was assumed to be gunshot wound

33:23 First Responder would not see the bones underneath

36:25 Whoever called 911 did not wait for help to arrive

41:49  Conclusion - Horry County, South Carolina still asking for tips

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After Judge Richard Mrazik ruled that there was probable cause to try Kouri Richins for aggravated murder and aggravated attempted murder and other charges, Joseph Scott Morgan decides to take a deeper look at the case against Kouri Richins. The Prosecution claims Kouri Richins tried to kill her husband Eric on Valentines day using a sandwich as the delivery method for the deadly fentanyl. But when Eric felt the effects, he put down the food and the attempt on his life falls short.  After the failed attempt, Kouri decides to try again, this time with more fentanyl and a different delivery method, the "Moscow Mule." And this time Eric Richins dies.  Kouri Richins defense team will certainly have answers for most of the charges against her and that is for the jury to decide. What is not in dispute is that Eric Richins died from Fentanyl, and that is what Joseph Scott Morgan is talking about on this episode of Body Bags.

Transcript Highlights

00:20 Introduction

02:30 The "Moscow Mule" delivery method

05:20 Talking about comparing drug strength to Morphine

08:00 Fentanyl is applied to other drugs as a "sales pitch"

11:34 Indicators of trauma15:04 Congestive heart failure

20:05 Autopsy Reports talking about odors

23:49 Fentanyl comparison to size of penny

27:50 Adding Fentanyl to other drugs for bigger "kick"

31:36 Update of the case: Kouri Richins left forensic bread crumbs

34:25 Using direct injection into heart

36:30 Conclusion: timeline will be powerful at trial

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Body Bags with Joseph Scott Morgan Recorded in Front of a "LIVE" audience at CrimeCon London, 2024. Joseph Scott Morgan is joined by Jo Millington. Jo Millington is a Forensic Scientist and has been using science to help solve major crimes for over 25 years. She is a renowned specialist in Bloodstain Pattern Analysis (BPA) and delivers a range of training courses on the subject to professionals and true crime fans, including online and internationally. 

Transcript Highlights 

00:00. Introduction 

05:00  Discussing training in forensics

09:35 Blood Spatter analysis

15:00 Correcting miscarriage of justice

19:00 Different methods in the UK

24:00 Discussion of velocity patterns

30:00 Identifying features in blood

35:00 conclusion

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Ana Walshe disappears in the first week of 2023. Her husband claims she caught a ride share to Logan Airport before flying to Washington DC. Ana Walshe never boarded the flight and has been missing ever since. Today on Body Bags, Joseph Scott Morgan talks about how investigators look through garbage at a landfill, and what is expected from the crime lab report at the next hearing in October. 

Transcribe Highlights 

00:00:37 Introduction - DNA Lab results

00:01:46 Case goes quiet

00:03:46 Karen Read Case trooper also involved in Walshe

00:06:49 Victim allegedly dismembered, nothing found but blood

00:10:54 Blood has to be verified, it isn't automatic

00:13:30  Discussion of decay in different environments

00:16:48 Investigators found very small amount of blood

00:19:42 Photographic evidence of Brian Walshe

00:22:32 Biological evidence is very fragile

00:25:32 Difficult to imagine what a perp is going to do

00:28:37 Body Parts in a landfill

00:32:02 Conclusion: Lab results coming in October

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OnlyFans and Instagram model, Courtney Tailor, is rich and famous. She is  living in a luxury high-rise in Edgewater, Miami, Florida and has banked over $3 Million dollars in the two years leading up to the death of her boyfriend, Christian Obumseli.
Her real name is Courtney Clenney and she is charged with second-degree murder with a deadly weapon in the death of Christian Obumseli, 27, in her high-rise Miami-area apartment on April 3, 2022.  Clenney claims she killed Obumseli in self-defense. 
Joseph Scott Morgan takes an up-close look at recently released information about what happened that fateful night and provides new insight into the death of Christian Obumseli. Was it self-defense or murder? 

Transcript Highlights 

00:00:00 Introduction of case - why would you throw your only weapon?

00:02:00 A single stab wound by a thrown knife

00:06:37 Courtney Clenney and boyfriend fought

00:10:56 Funny stuff about throwing knives

00:15:26 911 call, victim says "I'm going to die"

00:19:43 Clenney claims she through kitchen knife from 10 feet away

00:24:16 Discussion of laptop, text messages, email

00:28:26 The Love of Money

00:30:55 Courtney Clenney, drunk, approaches teen in parents neighborhood

00:33:23 Conclusion – portent of things to come

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Harmony Montgomery was 5 years old when she was last seen in December of 2019, but she is not reported missing for two years. When police track down Adam Montgomery and ask about Harmony, he tells them Harmony is with her mother in Florida. Police inform him that Crystal Sorey, Harmony's mother is the one who asked for them to check on Harmony,  Adam Montgomery doesn't cooperate, but the media catches on to the story and pressure is brought to find the special needs girl with the beautiful smile. To this day, Harmony Montgomery is still missing. A judge declared Harmony dead in March 2024, clearing the way for Harmony's mother, Crystal Sorey to file a wrongful death lawsuit against the state of New Hampshire alleging systemic failures in the state's child protection system. The lawsuit seeks monetary damages and answers from the state of New Hampshire surrounding Harmony's disappearance and death.

Adam Montgomery was sentenced to 56 years to life in prison for the murder of Harmony Montgomery as well as second-degree assault, witness tampering, falsifying physical evidence, and abuse of a corpse. 



Transcript Highlights

00:00.00 Introduction - update Harmony Montgomery case
02:39.79 Crystal Sorey, Harmony's mother, files lawsuit against New Hampshire
05:00.76 Family called about abuse, nothing was done
09:03.23 Judge declared Harmony dead, body still not found
14:04.73 Adam Montgomery beats Harmony in back seat of car
18:57.46 Family told social services, Adam blackened her eye
24:28.68 Description of Harmony dying in backseat of car
27:46.64 Kayla Montgomery told police about beating in car
32:42.38 Conclusion - Hope someone listens

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More evidence has come out in the case of the shooting death of Jared Bridegan. There is now more evidence with the tire found in the road and other tires found at a suspects house and Joseph Scott Morgan will explain how all the numbers actually mean something and can become very compelling evidence. 

00:00 Introduction

02:45 Bridegan executed at close range

07:37 Sharing custody of children

11:42 Bridegan shot twice on left side

16:36 Numbers on tires mean something

21:53 multiple gunshots heard by witnesses

25:53 Wound Tracking

30:44 Bridegan injuries were not survivable 

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After response to the Body Bags episode about decomposition called "The Smell Of Death", Joseph Scott Morgan realized he left our a couple things that are very important in the world of decomposition whether out in the field trying to solve a homicide, or in the cottage of a loved one who dies of old age in their favorite chair, bodies will decompose. And the rate of decomposition is dependent on many factors. Joseph Scott Morgan takes a close up look at decomposition and what it tells investigators who are looking for answers

00:00:00 Introduction   

00:02:23 Explaining skin slippage   

00:05:27 Wearing skin like a glove  

00:09:34 Examination of body on the scene 

00:13:36 Preserving the body  

00:18:39 Body decomposition inside a house      

00:23:15 Landfill with everything breaking down

 00:27:58 Body preserved when barely covered     

00:31:24 Body preservation in frozen area ,

00:34:15 Conclusion     

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This is an update to the story of Madeline Soto and her heartbreaking death, allegedly at the hands of her mother's boyfriend. A cause of death has been released but not the autopsy report due to the victim's age and it is a case of domestic violence. Joseph Scott Morgan pours through investigators reports to shed new light on what happened to Madeline Soto in the time before she was murdered as well as the days before her body was found. 

00:00 Introduction, life of Madeline Soto
04:54 Madeline made to sleep with mom's boyfriend
10:24 No Autopsy toxicology record available
14:15 Cause of Death; strangulation
18:28 Comparing injuries to neck
23:46 Suspect called "Master Manipulator", grooming
27:36 Madeline's body was tossed over fence
31:51 Conclusion 

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What is the worst thing you have ever seen on the job? This is one of the most common questions asked of Joseph Scott Morgan.  Today on Body Bags, the professor breaks down the stages of decomposition while sharing his firsthand accounts of working the scene of bodies that have been decomposing in the heat from a day to a month or more. This is a can't miss episode that provides an up close look at those who deal with death and the very natural things that take place in every person when they die.

Transcription Highlights

00:00:00 Introduction - What is the worst thing you have ever seen?
00:03:45 Sensory Memories and human remains
00:05:06 Talk about the "smell" of burning flesh
00:09:25 Particular smells, burning tires
00:15:25 Life and Death are natural
00:20:18 Description of decomposing body in a bed
00:25:07 Smelling coworkers for the smell of decomposition
00:30:14 Different levels of decomposition
00:35:38 Environmental temperature impacting decomposition
00:40:36 Looking at decomposition hiding injury
00:42:48 Conclusion

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 April  1977,  an unidentified body is pulled out of a septic tank and given the name, "Septic Tank Sam". The body had been burned before being wrapped in a yellow bed sheet and tied up with a nylon rope.

Today, Joseph Scott Morgan explains how it was possible that over four decades passed before "Sam" got his real name back. Attempts were made to find out the name of the man they called "Septic Tank Sam," but it wasn't until the scientists at Othram Labs got involved in the case that an answer was found.

Using genetic genealogy, Othram Labs was able to change the name of "Septic Tank Sam" and provide answers for the community that wondered, "whatever happened to Gordie?" "Septic Tank Sam" was actually Gordon "Gordie" Sanderson.  Please check out Othram: A Revolution in Cold Case Resolution. 

Transcript Highlights
00:00:05.95. Introduction - waste
00:04:14.33 The story of Septic Tank Sam
00:07:23.77 A couple looking in a septic tank finds a body
00:12:40.12 The body is protected
00:17:17.25 Environment helped preserve body
00:21:43.62 Discussion of desiccation
00:24:29.47 Body misidentified as caucasian
00:30:01.26 Cause of death, gunshot wound 
00:35:04.01 Defining prone and supine
00:40:00.92 Identification of bodies
00:45:40.95 Identifies body as indigenous
00:47:11.38 Conclusion, Othram providing answers

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Ethan Katz and Savannah Roberts are the proud parents of twin boys, Ari and Leon. The twins are just six-weeks-old when family friend, Nicole Virzi, comes to visit and help with the babies. Virzi is a PHD candidate at UC San Diego in the Clinical Psychology program on break from school and she is welcomed with open arms. Days later, Ari Katz is at the hospital with injuries to his penis and Leon is fighting for his life with massive head trauma.  And all of the injuries suffered by the twins happened when they are left alone in the care of Nicole Virzi. On this episode of Body Bags, Joseph Scott Morgan will explain how the injuries suffered by the twins don't match the description of what happened as told  by Nicole Virzi.

Transcript Highlights

00:00.00 Introduction
02:13.27 Talk about the Death Penalty
05:13.45 Description of injuries suffered by Ari
09:16.23 The is not a "sids" case
14:47.53 Nicole Virzi is not a stranger, she is a friend
19:07.90 Ari has bruises below belly button
24:15.22 Scratches don't appear to be "baby scratches"
29:09.13 Injuries to Leon's head
34:47.86 Joe describes how the skull grows
40:34.63 Virzi told 911 baby feel out of bassinet
44:45.67 Conclusion - will continue to follow story 

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An unidentified body is found in August 2005, in the picnic area of a rest stop off of a highway between Guelph and Rockwood in the Canadian province of Ontario. At the time, authorities determined the remains belonged to a woman who was potentially as young as 25 or as old as 45 when she died. In this episode of Body Bags, Joseph Scott Morgan sheds light on the remains known as Rockwood Jane Doe and how the scientists at Othram solved a missing person case that went unsolved for 18 years.  

Transcribe Highlights
00:00.01 Introduction - Family DNA
04:57.36 Discussion of Rockwood Jane Doe found in 2005
09:47.82 Discussion of Remains
15:35.81 Talk about the science of aging
20:23.69 Discussion How teeth wear down is a clue 
24:54.52 Discussion Broken Bones of victim, clues
30:14.10 Discussion Body Found in area under sleeping bag
34:11.55 Talk about suspicious death
42:13.81 Conclusion victim was Tammy Penner
 

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A Silver Alert was issued for 76-year-old Jackie Glynn. Her husband, Joe Glynn, tells the family their mother had terminal cancer and left home to attend a support group so she could die on her terms.  Joe Glynn had been married to Jackie Glynn for 24 years and her adult children don't believe what they are hearing from their mother's husband.  On this Episode of Body Bags, Joseph Scott Morgan explain how the killer helped law enforcement by they way he chose to dispose of the body and the evil weapon he chose to carry out his murderous plan.

Transcribe Highlights

00:00.01 Introduction; Cancer breaking a Big Man
04:57.36 Discussion of using cancer as reason for disappearanceJoseph
09:47.82 Discussion of Jackie Glynn, an accomplished woman
15:35.81 Talk about "Amber Alert" "Silver Alert"
20:23.69 Discussion investigation targeting intimate
24:54.52 Discussion of Joseph Glynn killing wife
30:14.10 Discussion of getting innocents involved
34:11.55 Talk about recently turned earth
42:13.81 Discussion of suspect admitting everything
42:17.33 Conclusion, guilty plea, life in prison

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Sandra Birchmore is 23-years-old and 3-months pregnant when she is found dead in her apartment. Her death is ruled a suicide, but her family doesn't believe it so they hire world renowned forensic pathologist, Dr. Michael Baden, to review her death. The former chief medical examiner of New York City writes a letter of his findings in which he details why he believes the death of Sandra Birchmore is not a suicide, it is a homicide. On this episode of Body Bags, Joseph Scott Morgan will explain how Dr. Baden came to his conclusion and how the Federal Government got involved in the case that ended up with the arrest of Police Detective Matthew Farwell who is now charged with Murder and staging the crime scene.

Transcript Highlights
00:42.43 Introduction: Trust
02:12.59 Discussion of becoming numb to investigations
04:57.94 Discussion of "explorer" group
07:37.19 Discussion of police officers involved with children
10:01.54 Talk about investigation of suicide
15:01.44 Discussion of getting all possible info at scene
20:08.48 Discussion of Post Mortem Lividity in seated position
25:15.37 Talk about conversations among those who work closely
30:09.57 Discussion of victim being involved sexually with police officer, allegedly
35:21.22 Discussion about autopsy
40:04.86 Talk about what level of contact between law officers in different departments
44:17.43 Conclusion - Will Update 

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Mother of two,  Melissa Wolfenbarger is missing. Her husband doesn't report her missing and tells investigators that they always talked of changing their names, getting fake identification and going "off-grid" out west, and that is what he thinks she did. A skull is found near where Chris Wolfenbarger works, but it is identified as the skull of a man. Years go by before the skull and other bones found near her husband's former workplace are identified as Melissa Wolfenbarger. But the case remains unsolved. Investigator Sheryl McCollum devotes years on the case and documents it in her incredible podcast called Zone 7 with Sheryl McCollum. On this episode of Body Bags, Joseph Scott Morgan will give you the complete story and explain how a Serial Killer helped break the case in an attempt to get justice for his daughter. 

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00:11.82 Introduction - Avon Avenue and Melissa Wolfenbarger
05:03.78 Discussion of a skull and a missing mother of two
09:43.56 Discussion a head found in the road, where is the rest
15:02.40 Discussion of family and contact 
19:53.10 Talk about the "finder"
24:57.23 Discussion of what to do when you find part of a body
29:47.38 Discussion of skull identified as male
34:41.20 Discussion of arms and legs found
39:51.28 Discussion of investigation
45:29.76 Discussion of serial killer helped solve crime
Conclusion - listen to Zone 7 podcast for details

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In 1973, Martha and Flora Helmick went to a family reunion with Martha's employer, World War I War Hero,  John Keyton. The trio left Bridgewater, Virginia on August 3, 1973, but never arrived in Kentucky for the family reunion. As word spread about the WW1 War Hero and sisters vanishing, a search was conducted, but nothing was ever found. On this episode of Body Bags Joseph Scott Morgan will explain how a bone found in a car that was found by firefighters during a training exorcise in the Kentucky River helped solve a 45 year old mystery.

Transcript Highlight
00:12.74 Introduction - Vanishing act circa 1973
05:00.88 Discussion of World War I veteran, Hero    
09:42.25 Discussion of Ford Fairlane, driving at night    
14:05.07 Discussion of 3 people vanishing on a trip     
20:07.28 Talk about finding a bone    
25:26.24 Discussion calling in expert    
30:05.68 Discussion of broken bone not healing properly    
35:01.86 Discussion of confirmatory evidence     
40:02.16 Talk about sisters vanish, firefighter helps solve case    
42:15.31 Conclusion remains tell the final tale     

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There really is a Language of the Dead and it is spoken by the deceased in a way that people like Professor Joseph Scott Morgan can understand.  On this episode of Body Bags, Joseph Scott Morgan explains the Language of the dead known as the Post Mortem Interval, PMI. Many phrases are used on podcasts, tv shows, and movies where it is assumed the audience knows the meaning, but many times, we don't. Joseph Scott Morgan takes the time to define and explain PMI; Post Mortem Interval, in this somewhat different, very informative episode of Body Bags.

Transcribe Highlights
00:12.74 Introduction of PMI  Post Mortem Interval
04:42.25 Discussion sounds a dead body makes 
09:20.95 Discussion of death investigation
14:18.98 Discussion of Jacksonville State University 
19:18.52 Talk about the language of the dead
24:23.14 Discussion of what happens when a person dies
29:48.47 Discussion of "real world: conditions
34:18.51 Discussion of what happens when a person dies in unusual position
39:00.23 Talk about liquid seeks lowest area
43:12.20 Discussion of "fixed"
44:20.54 Conclusion Paying attention

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Jennifer Paxton was looking for a place to stay with friendly faces for a few days. Rebecca Dishman and Sean Finnegan seem to be the friendly faces she is looking for...until she walks into their apartment. On this episode of Body Bags, Joseph Scott Morgan will talk about how Jennifer Paxton was beaten with a baseball bat, shackled to a bed, raped, tortured, and eventually murdered. 

Transcription Highlights

00:08.43 Introduction of Jennifer Paxton death
04:55.92 Discussion of victim, lured, tortured, raped, murdered
09:00.14 Discussion of someone treated as less than human
14:41.08 Talk about co-conspirator
19:10.79 Discussion of Paxton being placed in freezer
24:16.48 Describing police finding frozen body under bed
30:45.98 Discussion of over 50 injuries to victim
35:45.22 Talking about abuse of a corpse
40:34.78 Discussion of baseball bat used as weapon
43:10.84 Conclusion 

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Markayla Johnson moves with her two children, 4-year-old Miracle and 7-month-old Messiah, to Charlotte, North Carolina to be with her boyfriend, Benjamin Taylor.  Within weeks of arriving from Myrtle Beach, South Carolina, her family realizes they haven't seen her like they would normally expect. Reaching out to check on Markayla, the family get text messages from her phone, but there is something wrong. The messages don't sound like Markayla. After going to the apartment and finding nobody home, the family of Markayla Johnson report her and the children missing. On this episode of Body Bags, Joseph Scott Morgan walks you through the apartment that is now a crime scene and explain what police found when they opened the plastic tub filled with air fresheners......and Markayla Johnson. But where are the children? 

Transcription Highlights

00:00.01 Introduction - Names of deadly drugs
04:59.53 Discussion of Markayla and children move to Charlotte
07:06.46 Discussion of text messages
10:53.00 Joe Talks about finding a body
12:22.00 Discussion of evidence of children
16:59.24 Talk about smell of decomposing bodies
22:06.34 Discussion of methodology of suffocation
25:35.12 Talk about smell of decomposition from trunk
30:17.86 Discussion of triple homicide
34:53.71 Discussion of small bruises around mouth
39:49.39 Discussion secure scene
45:37.10 Benjamin Taylor being held without bond

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Matthew Perry became a star surrounded by "Friends" and became a falling star surrounded by "Friends" who did nothing but feed his addiction. On this episode of Body Bags, Joseph Scott Morgan will explain how a death investigator determines if a body found submerged in a hot tub died from drowning, drugs, or a combination of both. And in the end, who is responsible?

Transcript Highlights

00:00.00 Introduction of a "friend" 
00:39.79 Joe Talks about being fan of Matthew Perry films
05:00.76 Discussion of Matthew Perry physically showing addiction
09:03.23 Discussion of addiction and death
14:04.73 Discussion of ketamine
18:57.46 Talk about Joe finding live addict during death investigation
24:28.68 Discussion of different types of drugs
27:46.64 Discussion of doctor selling $12 bottle of ketamine for $2,000
32:42.38 Discussion of death investigation, elements of drowning
36:21.22 Conclusion, will doctors be treated as street dealers

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The family of James Nalborczyk reports him missing on December 21, telling police the last time they saw or talked to James was on December 7. Police investigate and visit Nalborczyk's girlfriend, Michelina Goodwin who quickly tells them she and James broke up and he left driving a company truck to a job in  West Virginia. On this episode of Body Bags, Joseph Scott Morgan will explain how Michelina Goodwin's claim that she accidentally shot her boyfriend in the back does not match the evidence. If it was an accident, why did Michelina and a friend, chop up James into little pieces, put his body parts in bags, and hide the bags in very rural areas of two counties. 

Transcript Highlights

00:07.55 Introduction: Becoming a "Proctor"
05:00.24 Talk about Murder of Ingrid Lyne
09:47.51 Discussion of killers keeping body nearby
14:23.46 Discussion of family thinks James is missing, he is dead
19:20.00 Discussion of forensic evidence of weapon firing
24:28.57 Talk about "drop test" on a gun
29:29.26 Discussion of "accidental shooting"
34:27.65 Discussion of body being wrapped in paper
38:46.85 Talk about privacy law
44:18.04 Discussion of two perpetrators who roll over on each other
46:14.07 Conclusion - no way to make blood disappear

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Today we'd like to direct your attention to another podcast - the new Crime Alert Hourly Update. The Crime Alert team delivers hourly updates on breaking crime news as it happens throughout the day! Follow now on your favorite podcast app: https://link.chtbl.com/CrimeAlert_HourlyUpdate
It’s been 6 years since Chris Watts murdered his wife Shannan Watts and their two children Bella and Celeste. Now the 39 year old killer says he is afraid for his life.   

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In the Body Bags with Joseph Scott Morgan titled "Dinner, Drinks, Dismemberment-The Sade Robinson Murder, Joseph went into great detail of the facts as they were known in the first weeks of the investigation. On this special episode of Body Bags, more information has been made public that is even more shocking than the first part of the story. A confidential Informant tells investigators that Maxwell Anderson showed him the basement, and Anderson told him what he was going to do with his victim. It is too late to make a difference now, but why didn't this "confidential informant" with a direct line to police tell someone what Anderson was planning? 

Transcript Highlights 
00:05.25 Introduction - Sade Robinson, part 2
05:37.25 Discussion of confidential informant knew
09:53.01 Discussion of remembering dates and times
14:30.28 Talk about cutting a body into parts
19:37.78 Discussion of Maxwell Anderson relaxed before attack
24:08.34 Discussion 12 hour window between dinner and car on fire
29:29.95 Talk about hiding blood
34:24.64 Discussion information in public
39:38.27 Talk about clothing items and test surface for DNA
45:07.69 Discussion of bathing body of Black Dhalia
48:04.44 Conclusion: items found in basement could be the beginning

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Ashley Bush, pregnant with her fourth child, is the main breadwinner in her home.

However, she has been diagnosed with gestational hypertension and needs a job she can do from home. She connects with a woman named Lucy on a social media site for expectant mothers, who offer the exact type of job Ashley needs.

In this episode of "Body Bags," Joseph Scott Morgan explains how medical professionals determine when a birth has occurred naturally and when something has gone wrong. Dave Mack will delve behind the headlines to uncover what happened to Ashley Bush and what will become of those responsible for causing her harm.

Transcript Highlights

00:17.33 Introduction - times are tough
03:22.40 Discussion about set-up, work from home to lure pregnant woman
08:00.83 Discussion about stealing baby from womb, call 911
13:32.57 Talk about decomposition that happens inside mother's body
18:26.72 Discussion of woman has placenta in her pants, baby dies
22:41.29 Discussion gestational hypertension
27:00.24 Discussion of Waterman admits killing Ashley bush
31:49.71 Discussion of working neonatal unit
35:44.32 Talk about burning body, heat insufficient
40:03.01 Discussion of Jamie Waterman led investigators to body
41:10.24 Conclusion, sentencing in October 

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Ashley and Doug Benefield marry after knowing each other for 13 days. Doug's previous wife has only been dead 9-months and he has a 15-year-old daughter to raise. Ashley convinces Doug to finance her dream Ballet company and to get his vasectomy reversed. On this episode of Body Bags you will discover why a prosecutor said Ashley Benefield decided she wanted to be a single mom when she was pregnant, and Joseph Scott Morgan will explain how someone can be shot in the chest even when they are not facing the shooter! 

Transcript Highlights
00:00:16.23 Introduction Discovery of the Black Swan
00:04:10.75 Discussion of Ashley Benefield the ballerina
00:08:42.29 Talk Doug and Ashley marry 13 days after they meet
00:14:29.79 Discussion of family dynamic
00:19:09.37 Discussion about why they married so fast
00:25:00.33 Discussion about Ballet company, Ashley pregnant
00:29:08.13 Talk Black Swan claims domestic abuse
00:34:24.42 Discussion of Ashley lying to Doug in therapy
00:40:22.90 Talk about Doug being shot in the chest and leg
00:44:33.51 Jury did not believe self-defense, Black Swan convicted
 

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Some people say Gyspy-Rose Blanchard is Munchhausen-by-proxy survivor, the victim of her own mother, Dee Dee Blanchard. And they would be right. Some people say Gyspy-Rose Blanchard is a murderer, and they too, would be right.  After lifelong physical, mental, and medical abuse, Gypsy-Rose Blanchard met a disturbed young man online and concocted a plan to getaway from Dee Dee Blanchard and begin her life as an adult. But Dee Dee would have to die. The crime scene was shocking, and now the pictures are out in the public. On this episode of Body Bags,  Joseph Scott Morgan is going to explain why the photos were taken to begin with and how pictures at a crime scene actually do more than just document what has happened, sometimes they can help investigators discover a lot more.

Transcript Highlights

00:00.01 Introduction, taken advantage of a storm
03:07.93 Talk about Dee Dee Blanchard, opportunist
08:13.54 Discussion of Dee Dee claiming Gypsy-Rose was sick as a baby
10:37.33 Discussion of crime scene photos released
15:04.43 Talk about the story of Dee Dee and Gypsy-Rose
20:08.29 Discussion of using hurricane Katrina   
25:05.99 Discussion of surgeries not needed
29:54.59 Talk about Gypsy-Rose and boyfriend
34:14.12 Discussion of Gypsy-Rose "story" about death of Dee Dee
39:50.66 Discussion of crime scene photos of Dee Dee Blanchard murder
40:59.73 Talking about photographic documentation of crime scene
47:38.96 Conclusion
 

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The death of Ellen Greenberg has been in the news since the day her manner of death was changed from homicide to suicide. The question remains to this day; Ellen Greenberg is found dead in her kitchen with over 20 stab wounds to her head, back, neck, and chest. She has bruises all over her body in various stages of healing. Why was her case ruled a homicide and then changed to a suicide? On this episode of Body Bags, Joseph Scott Morgan will share his experiences with suicides and breakdown the wounds inflicted on Ellen Greenberg's body. Ellen Greenberg's are trying to have her manner of death changed from Suicide to Homicide or undetermined, either one will demand a new investigation into the death of their daughter. After years of hearing "no", they finally heard a "yes", the Pennsylvania Supreme Court is going to hear their case. Not about manner of death, but whether or not the parents of the victim have standing in court to argue on behalf of their deceased daughter. 

Transcript Highlights

00:12.98 Introduction,Hope for the parents of Ellen Greenberg
03:14.72 Discussion of Pennsylvania Supreme Court will hear case
05:00.99 Discussion of changing manner of death from homicide to suicide I
09:04.99 Talk about 911 call
13:02.70 Discussion of giving family death notification
17:56.11 Discussion of recreation of scene
20:00.14 Talk about Ellen Greenberg body in kitchen
24:11.52 Discussion Phone Calls made before 911
28:34.29 Discussion of man who bled out from self inflicted knife wound
32:06.80 Discussion of stabbing yourself in the back
35:31.55 Talk about the effects of knife injuries
38:31.02 Discussion of suicide practice shot
40:06.80 Conclusion is it possible?

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Richard the Third died on the battlefield on August 22nd 1485. He had only been King of England for a little more than 2 years but he became the last King of England to die in battle. On this episode of Body Bags, Joseph Scott Morgan will take a deep dive into history to tell the story of the Battle of Bosworth, and use current science to find the remains of the King, more than 500 years after they were lost.

Transcription Highlights

00:00:11.09 Introduction of Richard the Third
00:05:22.43 Discussion of The House of Lancaster and House of York
00:07:20.98 Discussion of finding the remains or Richard III after 500 years
00:10:21.94 Discussion of how the "victor" writes the history
00:15:55.72 Talk about the battles, weapons used in the 1500s
00:19:03.00 Discussion of geography, how people could "hear" the battle
00:21:12.66 Discussion of the death of chivalry with treatment of Richard III 
00:26:04.23 Discussion of injuries created weapons of the time
00:29:38.71 Talk about finding the remains or Richard the Third
00:34:23.37 Discussion of finding legs in the first grave uncovered
00:39:41.84 Talk about forensic anthropologist on site
00:44:03.03 Discussion of injuries sustained by Richard the Third
00:49:12.19 Conclusion: finding remains or Richard the Third

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A guest fails to check out on time at the five-star Grand Hyatt Erawan in Bangkok. When hotel workers come to clean the room, the door is locked and hotel management and security are called. The door opens up and the nightmare begins. On this episode of Body Bags Joseph Scott Morgan will explain what a body goes through when cyanide is used to kill and Dave Mack goes behind the headlines and the rumors to find out how 6 people end up dead in a hotel room, and nobody survived. No blood. No bullets. No knives. Just Cyanide.

Transcription Highlights
00:00:03.72 Introduction: Don't Drink the Kool-Aid
00:04:00.06 Discussion of cyanide death at Jonestown
00:07:25.90 Discussion of Cult taking cyanide
00:10:07.48 Discussion of getting someone to take the poison
00:12:27.13 Discussion of 6 people meeting for business
00:17:33.23 Talk about being around cyanide
00:21:22.19 Discussion of people dying in house fire, test positive for cyanide
00:25:47.21 Discussion of what people can use to take a life
00:30:33.98 Talk about variety of items with that are lethal, cyanide shows on top
00:34:40.03 Discussion trying to find cyanide
00:39:00.03 Discussion of therapeutic use of fentanyl, no medicinal use for cyanide
00:41:04.10 Discussion of symptoms of cyanide poisoning
00:44:56.39 Conclusion level of horror, dying from cyanide

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Police arrive at the apartment of Fasil Teklemariam in Washington DC for a call of an unconscious person. Police quickly note that Fasil is more than unconscious, he is dead. Multiple stab wounds, and it appears that one of his thumbs has been cut off. On this episode of Body Bags, Joseph Scott Morgan will explain what happens when a thumb is severed from a hand, and can experts tell if it happened when the victim was alive or dead. Dave Mack will dig into the background of those involved and try to figure out who talked. 

00:02.12 Introduction: "The Rule of Thumb"
02:51.25 Discuss removing thumb to rob victim
05:14.45 Discuss James Bond,"biometric" science
09:04.94 Talk about CCTV footage 
14:20.13 Discussion of thumb removed from body
19:08.42 Discussion of what happens when everything dries up
22:33.29 Talk suspects stole key fob allowing access to the building
27:57.92 Discuss thumb came after trying to extract info
32:00.21 Discussion of shoe print left behind
36:46.63 Discussion of weapons used, did they use knives found in kitchen
36:49.34 Conclusion: they wanted his money, took his life

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Bricen Rivers nearly beat his girlfriend to death in their car in Nashville while on a romantic weekend getaway.

Jailed with bond set high enough so he couldn't get out, his victim, Lauren Johansen, is recovering in Mississippi when a judge lowers River's bond, and lets him out to finish what he started.

On this episode of "Body Bags," Joseph Scott Morgan will explain the horrible injuries Lauren sustained in the first beating in Nashville, while Dave Mack breaks down the backstory on the relationship that was so toxic, Lauren Johansen winds up dead in the back of her own car in the middle of a cemetery.

Transcript Highlights

00:00:04.19 Introduction - Being a parent, Father .
00:04:26.07 Discussion of abusive relationship 
00:09:20.25 Talking about parenting a child in abusive relationship
00:13:39.86 Discussion of Nashville trip, how much effort it would take
00:18:40.36 Talk seeing trauma in hospital
00:23:22.52 Discussion or rocks as a weapon, pistol whipping
00:28:29.50 Discussion of wound to Lauren's head at hairline
00:32:02.27 Talk about man abusing woman, judge lowering bond
00:36:15.69 Discussion of Lauren being kidnapped from home
00:40:38.20 Discussion of wounds Lauren suffered before death
00:43:48.59 Talk about Lauren wasn't recovered from December 11 beating
00:46:41.34 Conclusion Lauren's father helped recover her body

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Cleo Loizides is 81-years-old and living in a senior care facility in Virginia. After a visit from her daughter, 53 and grandson, 24, an orderly finds her stiff and cold to the touch. In this episode of Body Bags, Joseph Scott Morgan will explain what happens when someone in a senior care facility passes away and how to tell the difference between a natural death and a murder. Dave Mack will look at the history of the family that begins with Cleo Loizides as a Model in the 1960s and ends with her death in 2024. 

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00:00:02.39 Introduction - circle of life
00:01:07.72 Discussion of murder of 81-year-old woman
00:04:46.47 Discussion of Cleo Loizides found dead on floor
00:09:59.22 Talk about people in care facility
00:14:43.59 Discussion of nursing home deaths being investigated
00:19:44.18 Discussion of Elder abuse
00:22:30.18 Discussion of health, getting her own food, not needing help
00:26:10.21 Talk about knowing a body is dead
00:31:19.24 Discussion of daughter and grandson visiting
00:35:07.92 Discussion of cause of death
00:39:02.45 Discussion of daughter and grandson confess to murder
00:41:16.31 Conclusion Cleo deserved a better end

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Virginia Summers hears a rumor that "something" has happened to her adult daughter, Tara Capps. Tara is a free spirit but she maintains regular contact with the family. Virginia files a missing person report and begins looking for 36-year-old Tara. On this episode of Body Bags, Joseph Scott Morgan will explain how difficult it is to find forensic evidence in a homeless encampment, and Dave Mack will fill in the details of how the family searched, and found, Tara Capps. 

Transcript Highlights
00:14.80 Introduction of Tara Capps story
04:20.08 Discussion of camping and homeless camps
07:56.22 Discussion of searching for missing adult
12:12.03 Talk about mother getting tip about missing daughter
16:50.90 Discussion of homeless camp near body location
23:33.33 Discussion of decomposed body found between two living men
27:08.41 Talk about truth of what happened to Tara will come out
31:43.75 Discussion of Remains sealed inside plastic tote
36:25.48 Talk about evidence in the area
40:15.04 Discussion of how body was covered
42:28.16 Conclusion Family of Tara Capps needs answers

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When Travis McBride was in his teens, he got in trouble with the law over anger issues. As an adult he opens a successful therapy practice focusing on Anger Management.  The subject of this episode of Body Bags with Joseph Scott Morgan, the alleged murder of a homeless man by an anger management therapist. Joseph Scott Morgan will explain how blood will spread from a body to the trunk area of a vehicle and onto pavement.  Dave Mack investigates the background of the victim and finds Clinton Dorsey was married with three adult children and eight grandchildren. Was Clinton Dorsey really murdered by an Anger Management Therapist? 

Transcript Highlights 

00:00:00 Introduction College choices 

00:04:21 Discussion Anger Management Therapist  

00:06:51 Discussion about applying education to life 

00:11:01 Talk about Anger Management therapist having anger issues 

00:16:24 Discussion of suspects previous charges  

00:21:38 Explaining charges  

00:26:04 Discussion of therapist charged with homicide 

00:33:17 Talk about how suspect cleaned blood in street 

00:38:26 Discussion about leaving blood around side area of car trunk 

00:40:03 Discussion of post-mortem lividity 

00:44:16 Conclusion - will update after the case goes to court 

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A former Mayor with 28 years of law enforcement experience has been charged with first-degree murder in a triple homicide. In this episode of Body Bags, Joseph Scott Morgan will break down the weapons used in the murders and the possibility that one of the victims died while he was on the phone with 911. Dave Mack will try and explain what happened four days before the shooting  that may have led to the murders. 

Transcript Highlights 

00:00:00 Introduction people seeking power 

00:02:12 Discussion ex-mayor suspect triple homicide 

00:07:45 Discussion Triple homicide, 911 caller goes silent on call 

00:12:21 Talk about different types of guns 

00:17:35 Discussion suspect shows up with multiple weapons 

00:22:12 Discussion triple homicide occurs four days after event that led to it 

00:27:14 Discussion of defense strategy for shooting three people 

00:33:17 Talk about suspect showing up armed, left home enraged 

00:38:26 Discussion of victims shot with different guns 

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Sandra Pagniano vanishes from her home in the middle of the night while her husband and daughters are asleep. On this episode of Body Bags, Joseph Scott Morgan will explain how handwriting analysis broke the case wide open, while Dave Mack digs into the fractured marriage of David and Sandra Pagniano. All signs point to one suspect and one location where Sandra Pagniano was bound, gagged, and buried alive in a hand dug grave.  

Transcript Highlights

00:00:00 Introduction, history, writing, buried alive  

00:03:22 Discussion or “Person of Interest” 

00:06:21 Discussion of “notes” Jon Benet Ramsay note 

00:11:01 Talk about handwriting analysis 

00:16:15 Discussion of documents 

00:21:22 Discussion of obvious suspects 

00:24:19 Discussion of cadaver dogs 

00:26:32 Talk about using cell towers to track location 

00:31:41 Discussion – how to tell someone was buried alive 

00:35:29 Discussion kidnapped from her house, buried alive 

00:39:13 Conclusion – Life in Prison 

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17-year-old Kaitlyn Coones is a runaway from a group home in Canton, Ohio, and is staying with Jonathon Jones, 33, at his mother's residence. Nicole Jones, 53, mother of Jonathon Jones, is unaware that her son has snuck a teen into his bedroom.  Days later, Kaitlyn Jones calls a case worker at the Canton group home informing her she has done something terrible and is on the road with Jonathon Jones. Canton Police call for a welfare check and officers discover Nicole Jones has vanished. Jones car, her son Jonathon, and Kaitlyn Coones are also missing.

In this episode of Body Bags with Joseph Scott Morgan, Joe explains what evidence,  recovered by investigators, lead police to say Nicole Jones is dead  Dave Mack goes behind the headlines explaining  the relationship dynamic between Jonathon Jones and Kaitlyn Coones to determine if the teen is a victim, a suspect, or both. 

Transcript Highlights 

00:00:03 Introduction – teen kidnapped, mother missing, convicted son being sought 

00:04:47 Discussion of missing mom’s car tracked to Arizona and New Mexico 

00:07:52 Talk about attention focus when child is involved 

00:11:47 Discussion of 33-year-old man sneaks teen into his bedroom 

00:16:59 Discussion of Jonathon Jones and Kaitlyn Coones 

00:22:29 Talk about Nicole Jones being murdered in kitchen 

00:27:18 Discussion of circumstantial evidence 

00:32:30 Discussion about rock used as murder weapon 

00:36:44 Talk about Kaitlyn Coones giving Jonathon Jones 5 hours to kill 

00:40:03 Discussion of using GPS to track movement of suspects 

00:42:03 Discussion of blood and hair evidence 

00:44:02 Discussion of Jonathon Jones failure to disarm GPS tracker 

00:45:51 Talk about focus on Kaitlyn Coones being underage victim and suspect 

00:46:56 Conclusion Nicole Jones body will never be found, Jones and Coones are in prison 

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Mary Catherine Edwards is found naked and in handcuffs in her bathtub with about 4 inches of water. She has been sexually assaulted and murdered. Cause of death is drowning and asphyxia. On this episode of Body Bags, Joseph Scott Morgan will explain how the case that went unsolved for nearly 30-years was solved with DNA, Genetic Genealogy and a tip of the cap to Othram . Dave Mack will help tell the story of the 31-year-old beloved schoolteacher and the killer who almost got away with her murder.  

Transcript Highlights 

00:00:06 Introduction of Cold Case Murder  

00:05:42 Discussion of shutting down crime scene 

00:09:44 Talk about Parents discovering body of their daughter 

00:13:27 Discussion of motivation 

00:18:01 Talk about “torture” 

00:22:21 Discussion of cause of death, drowning and asphyxia 

00:27:30 Discussion of drowning in bathtub 

00:31:23 Discussion of Shera LaPoint, the Gene Hunter 

00:35:33 Talk about familiarity between victim and suspect 

00:39:20 Discussion of DNA and genetic genealogy 

00:41:52 Discussion of Rape Kit 

00:46:35 Conclusion: DNA Solves  

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Six years before he became known as the Day Trader who went on a murderous rampage, Mark Barton was the suspect in the death of his first wife and her mother while they were camping at a lake in North Alabama. Today, Joseph Scott Morgan shares  personal memories of working the homicides in Atlanta, as well as breaking down the murders of Mark Barton’s first wife and her mother in the camper, and his second wife and children in their apartment.. Dave Mack fills in the back-story on how Mark Barton may have gotten away with murder and child molestation, but he couldn’t escape himself.  

Transcript Highlights 

00:00:08 Introduction of geography, family killer, mass murderer 

00:02:46 Discussion of Mark Barton 

00:07:21 Discussion of murderers and weapons 

00:11:44 Talk about day traders in Atlanta 

00:16:04 Discussion of murder in camper trailer on lake 

00:21:17 Discussion of “robber” that left behind cash and jewelry 

00:26:26 Talk about blood in the Camper 

00:31:02 Discussion of Mark Barton cheating on his wife 

00:35:57 Discussion of timeline of family murders and Buckhead massacre 

00:39:49 Discussion of Barton killing second wife and children with a hammer 

00:43:06 Discussion of murders at Momentum and All-Tech 

00:46:20 Conclusion, Barton shoots himself in the head 

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Skeletal remains found near the Volkswagen plant in Chattanooga, Tennessee don't match up with any missing person cases in Chattanooga or the surrounding area. It takes several months before the remains are positively identified. On this episode of Body Bags,  Joseph Scott Morgan will take you into the field where the remains have been found and into the lab where identification takes place, and Dave Mack will look into the facts surrounding the disappearance of the 20-year-old beauty from Georgia and how she ended up as a skeleton on the side of a rural road outside Chattanooga Tennessee. 

Transcript Highlights 

00:00:25 Introduction of 20-year-old woman, missing 

00:04:07 Discussion of geography of the case 

00:07:20 Discussion of picking up body in jail 

00:11:51 Talk about Fentanyl becoming drug of choice 

00:16:13 Discussion of drugs and dealers 

00:20:48 Discussion of reporting missing person 

00:24:16 Talk about the deposition of the body 

00:28:08 Discussion of trauma on the bones 

00:32:32 Discussion explaining forensic anthropology at the scene 

00:37:13 Discussion of being absent of clothing 

00:41:40 Conclusion – Case is still open; we will follow up 

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Bonnie and Clyde killed at least nine police officers and four civilians during their 21-month crime spree from 1932 to 1934. The couple were also responsible for several Bank robberies, gas stations hold-ups , and burglaries. They weren't very good thieves, as they rarely got away with more than $80. In this episode of Body Bags, Joseph Scott Morgan will explain how Bonnie Parker suffered so many bullet holes her body had to be plugged to hold embalming fluid, and Dave Mack will take you behind the scenes in the woods with Frank Hamer and Manny Gault as they brought down the  murderous "Bonnie and Clyde".

Transcript Highlights 

00:00:10 Introduction of human destruction 

00:02:09 Description of Bienville Parish 

00:05:24 Description of Bonnie and Clyde car on display 

00:08:14 Discussion Bonnie 23, Clyde 25 

00:11:15 Talk about Bonnie and Clyde murder young cop 

00:15:11 Discussion about State Coroners convention 

00:18:05 Discussion about transcribing 

00:21:32 Talk about Bonnie and Clyde murdering cops 

00:25:57 Discussion of BB Episode about Coroner system 

00:28:21 Talk about autopsy of famous people 

00:31:41 Discussion of Dr. Wade and others at the autopsy 

00:35:00 Discussion of injuries suffered by Bonnie Parker 

00:37:42 Conclusion: Bonnie and Clyde meet their end 

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Trista Spicer tells everyone her live-in boyfriend, Eric Mercado, left the house on October 11, 2014, and never returned.  Mercado’s family called him “Nino” and they printed up posters, circulated info on social media and physically looked for their “Nino” with no luck. On this episode of Body Bags, Joseph Scott Morgan will detail what happens when someone is hit in the face with a frying pan and their throat is slit with a box cutter. Dave Mack will investigate the relationship between Trista Spicer, Eric Mercado, and Waylan Gentry, and who gave the police the “tip” that turned a missing persons case into a homicide investigation.

Transcript Highlights

00:00.01. Introduction - walking through graveyards

05:08.07  Discussion of social media, sharing too much

10:07.10. Discussion of victim, early 40s

15:35.82. Talk about spouses

20:20.01. Discussion about a missing family member

26:08.66  Discussion of what did Suspect tell new boyfriend

31:18.61. Talk about tattoos

36:39.54  Discussion - somebody always talks

40:26.66  Discussion of soft tissue, dehydrated skin

42:04:13  Conclusion - Face smashed in with frying pan, throat slit

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Wade Wilson, not the superhero better known as "Deadpool" but Wade Wilson, Tattoo Face Killer. If Wilson has a favorite song it is probably "Folsom Prison Blues" by Johnny Cash for the line "I shot a man in Reno, just to watch him die". For Tattoo Face Wade Wilson, using a gun to kill someone is too impersonal. In this episode of Body Bags, Joseph Scott Morgan will explain just how personal it is to strangle the life out of someone with bare hands, and Dave Mack will go behind the tattoos and headlines to find out more about the victims of the vile creature capable of killing two women in a matter of hours, just because he can.  Assistant State Attorney Andreas Gardiner in closing argument in murder trial of Wade Wilson:  "This case was about killing for the sake of killing. Strangulation is the epitome of life slipping through someone's hands." 

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00:39.32 Introduction of a nightmare

05:03.44 Discussion of Wade Wilson, tattoo face

10:24.32 Talk about Wilson claiming to be a victim

15:00.63 Discussion about how Wade Wilson got invited back to woman's home

20:23.78 Discussion about destroying a person for no reason

25:52.10 Talk about isn't it enough? 

29:33.42 Discussion about Wilson leaves Melton's home in her car

33:49.88 Discussion of Diane Ruiz body damage, injuries and animals

38:23.24.Discussion Wilson tells Bio Father what he has done

42:13.10 Conclusion - Wade Wilson, Florida Justice

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Jerry Harris's pregnant daughter is murdered, her uterus removed, and her body thrown in a river. She is found by fishermen six days after she is last seen alive. Jerry Harris commits suicide outside the Sheriff's Office. On this episode of Body Bags Joseph Scott Morgan go behind the evidence and take a look at the body of Jerry Harris' daughter, Jennifer, a murder still unsolved. Dave Mack digs into the story of Jennifer Harris. Who knew she was pregnant and who wanted her dead? The ex-husband? The ex-boyfriend? Did Jerry Harris get so depressed over the murder of his daughter that he killed himself at the Sheriff's office as some kind of challenge?  We know Jerry Harris killed himself. Do we know why?

Transcript Highlights

00:00:17.19 Introduction of "Cold Case" and recent suicide

00:03:48.25 Discussion of life and "dark space"

00:07:29.51 Talk about notification of family

00:10:31.93 Discussion of Jennifer Harris before she vanishes

00:14:43.53 Discussion of evidence, finding Jennifer

00:19:47.66 Talk about detaching while investigating

00:25:25.90 Discussion of finding and condition of remains in Red River

00:29:57.94 Talking about water damage

00:33:35.52 Discussion of ex-husband alibi

00:39:03.49 Talk about Jeep, latent hand or palm print

00:40:04.96 Discussion of cabin in the woods, burned down

00:43:30.88 Discussion of skill level of the person removing uterus

00:45:36.30 Conclusion: Blue clay, caretakers' cabin, suicide of Jerry Harris

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A Texas mother of 4 is found hanging from a dock with a rope around her neck in an apparent suicide. On this episode of Body Bags, Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack will go behind the shocking story of an apparent suicide and Joe Scott will explain how a witness describing the woman’s body hanging from the dock tells him she didn’t kill herself; this is a murder!  

01:38.72 Introduction: Suicide or Murder 

05:20.55 Discussion of rigidity 

09:06:44 Talk about boat life, living at marina 

13:02.11 Discussion of arms hanging down 

16:41.60 Talk about 30-year old mom, 4 children 

19:31.74 Discussion of suicide 

24:33.02 Discussion of woman’s arm points to different conclusion 

28:06.63 Discussion of staging a suicide 

32:14.44 Talk about girlfriend leaves, doesn’t come back 

36:11.46 Discussion of post-mortem lividity in aquatic environment 

39:18.91Discussion of flaccid 

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In this episode of Body Bags, Joseph Scott Morgan explains how he challenges his class at Jacksonville State University to try and solve a cold case. Two years in a row, two different classes and students chose the unsolved murder of Blake Chappell. Blake Chappell tells his mother he is having the best night of his life with his girlfriend at the East Coweta High School Homecoming Dance.

Within a matter of hours, Blake will find himself chased out of his girlfriend’s house in the middle of the night, walking down the road at 5 a.m. texting his girlfriend, and telling her police just stopped and talked to him. One last text to his girlfriend that he is getting cold, and his phone goes quiet.

Blake Chappell is 17 and he never makes it back to his friend’s house. He just vanishes into thin air. It is October 16, 2011. Two months later on December 17, 2011, his nearly naked body is found floating in a creek, he has been shot in the back of the head.

The case is still unsolved. But new search warrants were served in March 2024, will there be justice for Blake Chappell? 

Transcript Highlights 

00:00:13 Introduction Blake Chappel Case 

00:04:40 Discuss of family financial issues 

00:08:28 Blake finds ex-girlfriend who ran away 

00:10:32 Blake beaten up by ex’s stepfather 

00:12:26 Blake put in jail for finding his ex 

00:17:35 Mother takes Blake and date to homecoming dance 

00:20:48 Discussion of Blake activities walking in the night 

00:24:24 Talk about Blake walking miles to see girlfriend 

00:28:08 Talk about Blake texting girlfriend 

00:31:49 Talk about Blake doesn’t make it back to Austin’s house 

00:37:36 Discussion Blake shot in back of head 

00:43:22 Discussion rumors about Blake’s death 

00:48:12 Discussion Blake found wearing underwear, no shoes 

00:52:34 Conclusion Joseph Scott Morgan lets his JSU class pick unsolved crime to solve 

Two years in a row the case of Blake Chappel is chosen for the project 

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Herb Baumeister lived more than just a “double life."

On this episode of "Body Bags," Joseph Scott Morgan explains how it is possible that Baumeister had over 10,000 remains on his million-dollar estate, and Dave Mack dives into the background of the married, father and businessman who owned two Save-a-lot stores in Indianapolis.

Baumeister, who took his own life in 1996, is suspected of enticing gay men to his home, where he killed them and disposed of their bodies at the rear of his property.

Investigators suspected that Baumeister, a married father of three at the time who frequented gay bars, enticed unsuspecting men to his property to murder them. By 1999, investigators connected him to the disappearance of at least 16 men since 1980.

Some of the victims’ bodies were discovered discarded in shallow streams in rural central Indiana and western Ohio

For 30 years, investigators have been working to identify thousands of human remains, will they ever know the truth about how many people Herb Baumeister murdered?

Transcript Highlights 

00:00:13 Introduction of serial killer graveyard 

00:04:40 Discuss killer double life, wife claims she didn’t know anything 

00:08:28 Talk about trying to identify bone from other items 

00:12:26 Discussion of Forensic anthropologists 

00:17:35 Discussion of hiding secrets from family 

00:20:48 Talk about serial killer obsession with dead animals 

00:24:24 Discussion of the depth of depravity  

00:28:08 Discussion of skeletonized body on the property 

00:31:49 Talk about trying to render body down to ash 

00:36:36 Discussion of method of destruction after burning 

00:40:22 Discussion of other serial killers 

00:44:12 Talk about the size of the property 

00:44:34 Conclusion 

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Why did police serve another search warrant at the home of Rex Heuermann? Remember, his wife and children still live in the house. After his original arrest and the search warrants were served, pictures appeared in the press showing the damage done as the home was stripped. What did they miss? Why did they bring out the ME? On this episode of Body Bags Joseph Scott Morgan will take you into the house and what the ME might be looking for as well as the crime scenes and what has been found. Dave Mack will explain the “To-Do” list and go over the electronics Heuermann has been keeping for decades.  

Transcript Highlights

00:00:00 Introduction: Bernice Worden last victim of Ed Gein 

00:02:20 Discussion of Gilgo document release 

00:06:54 Talk about being on a jury 

00:09:44 Discussion – warning about content of episode 

00:13:55 Discussion of why go back with another search warrant? 

00:19:05 Talk about Rex Heuermann and the list he created 

00:23:11 Discussion of Heuermann electronics 

00:27:02 Discussion of Rex Heuermann planning note began in 2000 

00:30:59 Talk about violent, sexual torture 

00:34:17 Discussion of going to a scene, police don’t know what they have 

00:38:35 Talk about mutilated body a few miles from home 

00:42:15 Talk about access to material was different in the 1990s 

00:42:50 Conclusion, why they called the ME out to the scene 

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In 1985 a skull and partial remains are found in a plastic bag near Channel Islands Harbor in Oxnard, California. Thinking the remains are from a recent victim, investigators work to solve what they think is a murder. Failing to identify the victim, the case goes cold. On this episode of Body Bags, Joseph Scott Morgan will explain how the scientists at Othram Labs developed a DNA extract from the evidence and were able to identify “Ventura County Jane Doe "as the victim of a grave robbing that happened after her death in 1915. Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack will share the story of Gertrude Elliot-Littlehale, a woman born in 1864 and the amazing life she lived well before she became the unidentified “cold case” of “Ventura County Jane Doe”. Othram Labs is helping solve cases that seem unsolvable with the help of everyday people willing to make a small donation at DNASOLVES.COM Please take a moment of your time and visit DNASOLVES.COM and see how you can help solve a case.  

Transcript Highlights 

00:00:08 Introduction of Ventura County Jane Doe 

00:03:44 Discussion of Skull found in a bag in 1985 

00:07:19 Talk about history and DNA 

00:11:58 Discussion identifying bodies 

00:15:13 Talk about going from 1985 back to 1864 

00:20:49 Discussion of dogs and old bones 

00:24:14 Discussion of forensic anthropologist 

00:29:04 Discussion of “suture lines” 

00:33:03 Talk about solving crimes with DNA 

00:38:20 Discussion of building a family tree 

00:42:12 Discussion of “Gertie” and her life 

00:46:50 Talk about Othram Labs 

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Imagine waking up inside a body bag, declared dead and transported to a funeral home, where you find yourself short of breath, BUT STILL BREATHING! In this episode of Body Bags with Joseph Scott Morgan we will explore something that is happening far more often than you think, people being declared dead, who wake up on a table in a funeral home!  And how to make sure you are not Buried Alive!

Transcript Highlights 

00:00:08 Introduction: worst nightmare come true 

00:03:02 Discussion being buried alive  

00:07:28 Talk about funeral homes 

00:11:49 Discussion of hospice care nursing 

00:16:29 Discussion of soldier Battle of the Bulge 

00:20:24 Talk about forensic pathology 

00:24:46 Discussion of dead body, signs of death 

00:28:30 Discussion of death investigation 

00:31:34 Talk about people declared dead, waking up in funeral home 

00:34:16 Discussion of death and declaring someone dead 

00:38:04 Conclusion: cautionary tale, death investigation is important 

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The victims of the Long Island Serial Killer have been known in the media as the “Gilgo 4”, but now that Rex Heuermann has been charged with two more murders the media will have to change the name to the “Gilgo 6”.  Rex Heuermann is an architect by trade, someone who can create and use blueprints. Investigators found a Serial Killer Blueprint on Heuermann’s computer. On this episode of Body Bags, Joseph Scott Morgan will explain how DNA evidence and hair might be enough to put away Rex Heuermann for good, and Dave Mack will explore some of the items found on Heuermann’s computer. From disturbing images of abuse and porn, to lists of supplies for torture, investigators found a goldmine during a recent search of Heuermann’s home.  

Transcript Highlights 

00:00:08 Introduction of Gilgo details 

00:02:09 Discuss Rex Heuermann two new murder charges 

00:07:19 Discussion of Data from a forensic standpoint 

00:12:01 Talk about seeing the dumping ground and home of Heuermann 

00:16:58 Discussion of more bodies found along Gilgo 

00:21:18 Discussion of area, easy to be seen 

00:25:25 Discussion of the court documents, new information 

00:29:37 Talk about changes in DNA science since early 90s 

00:33:36 Discussion of skin and injury 

00:37:05 Conclusion – more bodies 

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They called themselves the "Gilbert Goons", a group of teens that were suspected of assaults at parties and parking lots, as well as armed robberies. Defended by their parents, the teens' reign of violence culminated with the fatal beating of 16-year-old Preston Lord. Preston was at a Halloween Party with friends when one of the "Gilbert Goons" stole a cheap necklace from a friend of Preston Lord.  On this episode of Body Bags, Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack will tell the story of how a town in Arizona was terrorized by a group of entitled teens who were defended by their entitled parents for years until they almost got away with murder. 

Transcript Highlights 

00:00:08 Introduction: Group Think 

00:03:56 Discussion of group of teens in Gilbert, Arizona 

00:07:22 Discussion of Gilbert Goons videotaping the beating  

00:11:15 Talk about the assaults attributed to the teens in Gilbert 

00:16:09 Discussion of how the beating of Preston Lord continued  

00:21:07 Discussion of a bully 

00:25:45 Talk about parents joking about the beating 

00:30:19 Discussion of severe blunt force trauma 

00:33:52 Discussion of shoe imprint on the body of victim 

00:38:02 Conclusion: judgement is coming. 

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Chrystul Kizer is 17 when she is arrested for the first-degree murder of Randy Volar. The question that will be answered through investigation and the court system is whether or not Chrystul Kizer killed an innocent man, or did she kill a man who was sexually abusing her and other underage girls. On this episode of Body Bags, Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack will breakdown the case and take an in-depth look at what story the forensics tell and what information a judge will have to consider in sentencing a teen who saw murder as her only way to live. 

Transcript Highlights

00:00:17 Introduction: growing up 

00:02:18 Discussion of Chrystul Kizer, 17, abuse victim 

00:06:52 Talk about fire debris and dead body 

00:09:57 Discussion of heat causing teeth to shatter 

00:13:15 Discussion of destruction of a person 

00:17:05 Discussion of multiple victims 

00:21:47 Talk about laws regarding sexual abuse 

00:25:54 Discussion of electronic forensics 

00:29:01 Talk about Chrystul Kizer trying to survive 

00:33:04 Discussion of damage 2 shots to the head can cause 

00:38:11 Discussion of stippling 

00:41:43 Talk about victim escaping in BMW 

00:44:27 Discussion of plea deal offered 

00:45:18 Conclusion – sentence coming in August 

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Georgia authorities find three victims tortured and murdered in Clayton County and taken to Fulton County. They were found in an abandoned car along I-85 at an exit ramp in Union City, Georgia on January 13, 2013. On this episode of Body Bags, Joseph Scott Morgan will take you into the investigation that determined the victims were tortured and murdered and Dave Mack will go into the back story on how the case remained cold for 11-years until forensics led investigators to a Middle School Assistant Principal in Alabama and 3 other suspects. 

Transcript Highlights 

00:00:08 Introduction – Position of authority 

00:02:36 Talk about Assistant Principal arrested in cold-case triple murder  

00:08:06 Discussion -11 years after 3 dead bodies found in a car, a break in the case 

00:11:54 Discussion - victims found in Atlanta from Montgomery, Alabama 

00:17:02 Talk about suspect was assistant principal at a middle school 

00:20:51Discussion of multiple jurisdictions working on a case 

00:24:23 Talk about medical examiners 

00:27:40 Discussion of multiple suspects 

00:30:03 Discussion of asphyxiation 

00:31:14 Conclusion, what did the bodies say? 

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The National Institutes of Health, comparing a medical examiner and coroner, states that Coroners are elected lay people who often do not have professional training, whereas medical examiners are appointed and have board certification in a medical specialty.

All of this is true.

On this episode of "Body Bags with Joseph Scott Morgan," Joe will take you back in history to a time when the person who finds the dead body in their yard has to gather a posse and solve the murder mystery or be stuck with paying taxes!!

The coroner system has a long history, some funny stories, some strange people, and a few mysteries to unpack.  

    Transcript Highlights 

00:22.56. Introduction of studying the dead. 

03:04.63 Discussion most people don’t die from bullet wounds 

06:01.87 Talk about forensics  

11:38.68 History of “Normans” 

17:44.17 Discussion of power of Coroners 

22:25.90 Discussion of Coroners Jury 

26:18.76 Discussion of authority of coroner 

31:00.67 Discussion of scientific people in coroner system 

32:05.27 Talk about who backs up the coroner 

37:48.5 Discussion of medical examiner state vs coroner state       

42:49.50 Conclusion 

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Grace Millane is in New Zealand when she meets Jesse Kempson on Tinder. Grace is on a Gap Year trip that has taken her to South America and now she is in Auckland, New Zealand where she is camping and hiking and meeting new people.  Connecting on Tinder, Grace meets Kempson for dinner and drinks, most of their evening captured by CCTV. They arrive back at Kempson's hotel and we see them get on and off the elevator. It is the evening of December 1 and Grace turns 22-years-old on December 2nd. On this episode of Body Bags with Joseph Scott Morgan, Joe will breakdown what happened to Grace inside the hotel room and what Jesse Kempson did in the aftermath of the gruesome murder.  And Dave Mack will try and make sense of the timeline when, even now, we don't know if Grace made it to her 22nd birthday. 

Transcript Highlights 

00:00:18 Introduction of Grace Millane, gap year vacation 

00:04:27 Discussion of Tinder date timeline 

00:09:15 Discussion murderer goes on another Tinder date 

00:13:56 Talk about targeting victim, asphyxia 

00:18:33 Discussion of Gap Year  

00:23:46 Discussion of date captured on video 

00:28:17 Talk about murderer covering up the crime 

00:33:03 Discussion of destroying the victim 

00:36:31 Discussion of killing someone with hands around neck 

00:40:13 Talk about the sexual assault 

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Missy Bevers was murdered inside a church before 5 a.m. while she was preparing for her morning fitness class. Her body is found by a student and Missy is pronounced dead at the scene. On this episode of Body Bags, Joseph Scott Morgan will discuss the possible weapons used to kill Missy Bevers and Dave Mack will dig into the possible suspects in an unsolved murder where the main suspect is caught on camera wearing a police swat kit and walking the halls of the church with an unusual gait, waiting for Missy to arrive. 

Transcript Highlights 

00:00:24 Introducing Missy Bevers 

00:01:51 Discussion of unsolved murder 

00:04:12 Talk about Camp Gladiator 

00:08:38 Discussion of murderer seen on video 

00:12:28 Discussion of odd gait 

00:17:13 Talk about suspect, man or woman? 

00:21:13 Discussion of SWAT disguise 

00:26:09 Talk about new kit 

00:30:13 Discussion of long hammer as a weapon 

00:34:31 Discussion of injuries matching weapon 

00:39:05 Talk about coverage of case in media 

00:43:20 Discussion of no gun belt 

00:46:44.Conclusion  

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On this episode of Body Bags with Joseph Scott Morgan, Joe is going to break with our regular format and take a look at a man who revolutionized the Medical legal death investigation field. He was famous as a “Celebrity Pathologist” but that doesn’t do the man justice. When others walk away from trouble, Dr. Cyril Wecht said, “Where is the brain of JFK?”  Joseph Scott Morgan shares his thoughts on the passing of Dr. Cyril Wecht.

Transcript Highlights 

00:00:18 Introduction from JFK movie  

00:00:47 Talk about Dr. Cyril Wecht 

00:04:06 Talk about passing of Werner Spitz 

00:08:21 Discussion of JFK 

00:11:37 Discussion of Dr. Wecht as Air Force Officer 

00:14:45 Talk about Wecht running for political office 

00:19:33 Discussion of Dr. Wecht from coroner’s office to medical examiner 

00:24:16 Talk about Wecht didn’t play golf, life was his hobby 

00:27:16 Discussion of Wecht getting sued for comments  

00:31:36 Talk about Wecht discovers JFK brain is missing 

00:35:02 Talk about destroying evidence to cover up a crime 

00:38:34 Discussion of Dr. Cyril Wecht accomplishments 

00:39:28 Discussion about over 42,000 Post-mortem exams 

00:43:49 Joseph Scott Morgan share thoughts on Dr Wecht 

I just want to take a moment and 1st off acknowledge his passing and certainly the wet family, the Duquesne family and all of his extended friends and colleagues. My deepest sympathies to them because he's a man. He is a man that Has impacted so many of us in the field of forensic science. He passed away peacefully on May 13th. 

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On January 19, 2001, Tara Baker was murdered in her apartment.

The perpetrator sexually assaulted her and then lit the apartment on fire. The case went cold in the town of Athens, Georgia, for over 20 years.

On this episode of "Body Bags," Joseph Scott Morgan will break down the science of solving a cold case and Dave Mack will fill in the blanks of the story that shocked Northern Georgia for over 20 years.

Recently the murder of Laken Riley brought the Tara Baker homicide back into the conversation and with great detective work and with biological evidence and DNA science, the cold case became hot again, as hot as the fire the suspect set to destroy evidence of the horror he created.  

Transcript Highlights 

00:00:09 Introduction of influence 

00:01:24 Tragic Cold Case Solved, Tara Baker 

00:04:11 Discussion of Tara Baker case and Laken Riley 

00:08:32 Discussion of fire in apartment 

00:09:24 Talk about find body  

00:14:32 Discussion of accelerants 

00:19:21 Discussion of death investigation in fire 

00:24:41 Discussion of time involved in the attack 

00:27:58 Talk about predators selecting their victim 

00:31:33 Discussion of how to determine sex assault when body is burned 

00:37:20 Discussion of how a burned body is examined 

00:38:47 Talk about unsolved cold case 

00:41:50 Case solved; Edrick LaMont Faust arrested 

00:44:46 Conclusion, Faust is 48, Tara Baker died at 21 

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The autopsy of Noah Presgrove is released and for the first time in the history of Body Bags with Joseph Scott Morgan, Joe is going to issue you a warning for what you are about to hear. Noah Presgrove is at a birthday, end of summer, labor day party with friends all weekend. But something happened Sunday night to cause Noah to leave the party by himself. He is found the next morning at 5:53am, alone, dead, on the side of a rural highway. He is naked except for a pair of shoes, but one of the shoes isn't his, it belongs to a guy asleep at the house where the party took place. The "friends" he has known all of his life aren't talking. His brother sees teeth scattered near his brother's body and pieces of chain. Who or What killed Noah Presgrove? Will the autopsy help answer the question?

Transcript Highlights

00:00:08 Introduction: Growing up in rural area 

00:03:10 Talk about List of Injuries 

00:05:17 Discussion of group dynamics 

00:09:12 Discussion of what happens to clothing  

00:12:27 Talk about social media evidence 

00:16:11 Discussion of internal injuries 

00:20:26 Discussion of injuries cased by falling out of a truck  

00:24:14 Talk about skull fractures 

00:28:32 Discussion of brain fluid 

00:32:52 Discussion of broke teeth 

00:36:03 Talk about animals and body on road 

00:37:52 Discussion of cervical injuries 

00:40:00 Discussion of abrasions 

00:41:47 Talk about being hit by car 

00:43:59 Discussion of data 

00:44:17 Conclusion; After the autopsy we still don’t have answers 

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Dr. Werner Spitz is a man who spent his lifetime looking straight into the soul of man and looking death in the eye. On this episode of Body Bags, Joseph Scott Morgan gives a heartfelt tribute to a mentor he never met, a teacher that never gave him a test but one whose approval was sought in every written word and study as a death investigator. Dr. Werner Spitz passed away at the age of 97 on April 14, 2024, and this show is a special tribute to a man that actually did write the book of his profession, "Spitz and Fisher's Medicolegal Investigation of Death; Guidelines for the Application of Pathology to Crime Investigation.

 Transcribe Highlights
00:33.95 Introduction to the life of Werner Spitz

05:59.93 Discussion of Spitz impact on forensic pathologists

09:53.32 Discussion of fleeing Nazi Germany

13:51.43 Talk about being the lone voice of truth that you see

17:35.73 Discussion of Mary Jo Kopechne

24:16.10 Discussion of Spitz being called into high profile situations

28:15.52 Talk about examination using photographs

31:38.41 Discussion of not being afraid to take on cases others wouldn't

36:52.60 Talk about paying for an opinion

37:01.94 Conclusion Those who fail to remember history, are doomed to repeat it

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The double homicide of Russell and Shirley Dermond rocked their gated community along Lake Oconee in Georgia.. The decapitated body of 88-year-old Russell Dermond was found in the garage and his wife of 68 years,  87-year Shirley Dermond was found in Lake Oconee weighted down with cinder blocks, 10 days after Russell's body was found.  On this episode of Body Bags with Joseph Scott Morgan, you will learn about the evidence investigators found at the crime scene as well as what can be learned from a body that may have been in a lake for 10 days. The double homicide has gone unsolved for 10 years and the head of Russell Dermond has never been found.  How was this elderly couple, married 68 years, murdered and why?

Transcript Highlights 

00:00:08 Introduction about murders 

00:05:00 Discussion about neighbor checking on Dermond’s 

00:09:34 Talk about unsolved murders, 10 years 

00:14:04 Discussion about Shirley Dermond body found in lake 

00:19:05 Discussion of Russell Dermond head, it’s missing 

00:23:51 Discussion about Shirley was weighted down 

00:28:08 Talk after 10 years, case still unsolved 

00:31:39 Discussion of lack of blood at scene 

00:34:52 Talk about how head was removed 

00:37:57 Talk about DNA evidence 

00:40:28 Conclusion: After a decade, new evidence might solve the case 

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Was 7-year-old JJ Vallow alive when he was buried? Was 16-year-old Tylee Ryan dismembered before her remains were burned? What does the autopsy say about the death of Tammy Daybell? On this episode of Body Bags, Joseph Scott Morgan will explain the forensics of all 3 victims and Dave Mack will fill in the background on the story of what really happened to JJ Vallow, Tylee Ryan, and Tammy Daybell 

Transcript Highlights 

00:00:08 Introduction, loving arms that didn’t hold JJ and Tylee 

00:04:21 Discussion of the deaths, JJ, Tylee, and Tammy Daybell 

00:07:54 Discussion of bodies buried near one another 

00:11:19 Discussion of death of Tammy Daybell  

00:14:57 Explaining asphyxia 

00:18:45 Talk about access and opportunity 

00:22:58 Discussion of Dr Warren on witness stand 

00:26:02 Discussion of Bones being scattered, broken up while burning 

00:29:07 Talk about JJ Vallow trying to pull bag off his head 

00:30:47 Conclusion: Justice, whatever that means, is coming. 

Justice, whatever that means, is coming and there is a reckoning coming. 

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At least 12 bodies have been pulled from "Lady Bird Lake" in Austin, Texas in the last 22 months. Some can be explained as deaths that happen on or near a lake, but not all. On this episode of Body Bags Joseph Scott Morgan will break down the difference between a regular death in a lake and a possible serial killer, while Dave Mack breaks down the stories behind the victims. 

Transcript Highlights

00:16.18 Introduction about water and murder
03:37.66 Discussion does Austin have a serial killer?
08:13.12 Discussion what does "serial killer" do to an area
13:22.11 Talk about other serial killers, were they really caught
17:54.47 Talk about witnessing a death on the water
22:03.17 Discussion of toxicology
27:53.13 Discussion of victims
32:38.32 Talk about water as a dumping ground
36:26.16 Discussion of decomposition in water
40:04.57 Talk about water flow
47:42.83 Discussion about rumors over fact
Conclusion

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Mother of five,  Crystal Rogers is last seen July 3 by her live-in boyfriend, Brooks Houck. Crystal Rogers mother, Sherry Ballard, reports her missing on July 5. Later that day, Crystal Rogers red Chevy Malibu is found abandoned on the Bluegrass Parkway. The car has a flat tire, but Rogers' keys, phone and purse are still inside. 16-months later, Crystal Rogers is still missing and her father, Sherry Ballard's husband, Tommy Ballard, is murdered in the early morning hours as he prepares to go hunting on his own property with his 12-year-old grandson.

Ballard is shot from an undetermined distance, but his property backs up against the Bluegrass Parkway. It's a fast getaway in either direction for a gunman. On this episode of Body Bags, Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack explore the disappearance of Crystal Rogers and the murder of her dad, Tommy Ballard.  Plus, Joseph Scott Morgan  explains how prosecutors can prove Crystal Rogers was murdered,  even though they haven't found her body.

Transcribe Highlights

00:12.12 Introduction of growing up with PaPaw Morgan
03:34.36 Discuss Crystal Rogers missing, her father Tommy Ballard murdered
06:15.27 Discussion of Bardstown Kentucky 
07:46.82 Discussion of why Brooks Houck didn't report Rogers missing
08:13.81 Talk about Crystal Rogers car found on Bluegrass parkway
15:45.34 Talk Rogers car found with flat tire, she is still missing
18:16.83 Discussion of Brooks Houck, suspect, brother is police officer
21:13.58 Discussion of police letting Houck talk to his brother on phone
26:27.16 Talk about tracking dogs pick up Crystal Rogers scent at farm, but not at her car
31:09.10. Discussion 16 months after Crystal Rogers vanishes, her dad, Tommy Ballard killed
34:36.43 Discussion of how bullet twists the skin
39:02.99 Discussion of Tommy Ballard hunting, murdered on his own property
40:52.53 Discussion of murder charges without a body
43:45.73 Conclusion - waiting for trial 

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Corey Micciolo did not meet his father until he was 5-years-old. Soon thereafter Corey landed in the middle of a custody battle. From the first time he was left alone with his father, Corey came home with bruises, busted lips, and more. His mother complained but nobody listened. Only now are people paying attention because of an awful video showing 6-year-old Corey Micciolo being forced to run on a treadmill and falling off, over and over. Each time he falls off the treadmill, his father puts him back on and turns the speed up, allegedly.  Christiopher Gregor is on trial facing murder charges for allegedly killing his own son in what the media calls the Treadmill Abuse Trial. On this episode of Body Bags, Joseph Scott Morgan will explain what really happened to Corey Micciolo and why 6-year-olds don't drop over dead, and Dave Mack will fill in the rest of the story of how Corey was given to a father that never bonded with him while his mother begged for anyone to listen.

00:38.98 Introduction, talk about weapons

05:17.90 Discussion of exorcise as punishment

10:01.23 Talk about making 6-year-old run on treadmill

16:01.12 Discussion of bruises and injuries

21:06.32 Talk about Corey's health is fine, except for bruises

26:20.26 Talk about Corey tells doctor about football and treadmill

32:41.40 Discussion of children don't die of natural causes at 6

37:27.82 Discussion of injury to abdomen

39:12:19 Conclusion Final Diagnosis, Blunt Force impact, laceration of heart

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Lisa and David Hernandez had been separated for a year before he starts stalking her, showing up at her job uninvited and unwelcome. He sends his estranged wife a bouquet of flowers with Lillies, "the Death Flower", knowing she is extremely allergic to them. On this episode of Body Bags, Joseph Scott Morgan will explain how someone can be killed by a blunt force instrument and a sharp-edged instrument at the same time and Dave Mack will fill in the story with the creepy stalking that David Hernandez allegedly did to his wife.

Transcribed Highlights
00:02:00 Introduction of Lisa Hernandez 

05:12.52 Discussion of "Death Flower" 

08:50.91 Talk about a tool as a weapon
14:17.46 Discussion of skull injury

19:46.20 Discussion of suspect knowing victim allergies

24:28.29 Talk about a "staged" scene
29:19.40 Discussion of allergic reaction 
32:32.27 Discussion of blunt force and sharp force 
36:26.87 Talk about tossing weapon / tool into lake
41:22.33  Discussion of Searching the bottom of a lake

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On August 4, 2020, 12-year-old Jaylen Griffin went to the corner store in his neighborhood to try and make a little money helping people carry their groceries home.  On this day,  he brings his new puppy with him and many people remember seeing the boy and his puppy. But Jaylen Griffin and his puppy never makes it home that evening. It seems as though Jaylen has vanished into thin air. Neighborhood searches, flyers, reward money, nothing helps bring the boy home. Three months after Jaylen goes missing his older brother is murdered, shot dead almost in front of their Buffalo, New York home. Days turn into weeks, weeks into months, and months into years. In September 2023, Jaylen's mother dies,
never knowing what happened to her 12-year-old son. Months after her passing, the decomposed remains of Jaylen Griffin are found in the attic of a house about 5-miles from where Jaylen lived in south Buffalo. The house was no stranger to law enforcement and many people wonder how it was possible the remains of a child could decompose in the attic of a house with many residents and nobody smelled or saw anything. On this episode of Body Bags, Joseph Scott Morgan will breakdown the forensics that will help determine the  cause and manner of death and  try to answer questions that could lead to justice for Jaylin Griffin

Transcript Highlights

00:03.10 Introduction of life, memories 

01:06.13 Talk about 12-year-old boy missing 4 years

05:20.86 Talk about getting help from dentist to ID victim

07:45.26 Discussion of how to identify remains of a child

11:36.93 Discussion of "Bite" marks as evidence 

17:00.65 Jaylen and the "12-year molar"

20:05.82 Discussion of weather on remains

24:45.81 Talk about the home where Jaylen's remains were found

29:22.81 Discussion of remains and smell, compare to Harmony Montgomery

33:00.68 Discussion of law enforcement, fire, rescue calls to address

37:24.74 Talk about remains having "soft tissue"

41:20.56 Conclusion will the remains lead to a murderer?

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From Mother's Day 2020 until September 2023, only one person really knew that Suzanne Morphew wasn't just missing, she was dead. In September 2023 the remains of Suzanne Morphew were found while investigators were working a different crime, An autopsy was done on the remains and on this episode of Body Bags, Joseph Scott Morgan will explain how doctors were able to create a toxicology report using only bones, and why Susanne Morphew's death has been ruled a homicide.

Transcribed Highlights 
00:42.91 Introduction of Suzanne Morphew

03:21.30 Talk about autopsy of bones

06:54.40 Discussion of remains 

10:43.53 Discussion of Mountain Lions
 
14:37.94 Talk about the disappearance of Suzanne Morphew

18:16.37 Discussion of darts and animals

20:55.11 Talk about the depth of a hole for remains

26:25.13 Discussion of co-mingling of bones
 
30:06.14 Discussion of decomposed body

35:20.28.Talking about the bones in the arms
 
41:21.60 Discussion of darts and toxicology

47:03.48 Conclusion of the Suzanne Morphew

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This episode of Body Bags with Joseph Scott Morgan is a look at the death and autopsy of John Wilkes Booth.  Booth shot Abraham Lincoln from behind around 10:15 pm April 14, 1865. He died the next morning, April 15, at 7:22 am. Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack will uncover the track that Booth took as he tried to escape, and finally being shot himself. Joseph Scott Morgan will make you feel like you witnessed the autopsy yourself as he explains, in great detail, the autopsy of John Wilkes Booth. 

Transcribe Highlights
00:13.63 Introduction - autopsy of John Wilkes Booth
01:45.79 Discuss Forensic expert is a history fan
05:09.53 Talk about the Booth acting family
08:22.93 Discussion of how Booth wrecked everything
12:47.62.Talk about Booth jumping to stage
18:45.53 Discussion of expectation
22:49.66 Talk about the conspiracy
27:50.24.Discussion of Booth broken leg
32:01.96 Talk about comparing Lincoln to Kennedy
38:40.42 Discussion of Booth not getting help
41:08.80 Talk about getting Booth on boat
48:59.90.Discussion of putting a door on saw horses as a table
50:03.11 Talk about Autopsy in 1800s
52:18.34 Discussion of Booth being wrapped in military blanket
56:27.97 Conclusion, Lincoln wanted the country to heal  

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Sade Robinson is having fun on her first date with a new guy. They pose together and post the picture to social media. Sade had no idea she was taking a picture with the devil and she only had hours to live.

In this episode of "Body Bags," Joseph Scott Morgan will explain how the killer sealed his fate by trying to destroy evidence with fire.

Transcribe Highlights 

00:22.97 Introduction Milwaukee 

05:01.65. Talk about Jeffrey Dahmer 

07:29.72 Discussion of dismemberment 

09:53.60 Talk about getting rid of smell with tires 

14:06.81 Discussion of finding leg 

 20:10.93 Talk about remains being compromised  

25:18.19. Breaking down the timeline  

30:30.67. Discussion of other women missing 

34:38.48 Talk about fire inside a car 

36:38.64 Discussion of witness who saw person use lighter to start car fire 

39:33.42 Conclusion – how remains will tell what really happened to Sade 

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Boston Cop John O'Keefe and his girlfriend Karen Read go on a pub crawl before ending their the night at the home of a Boston cop friend of O'Keefe's at 12:45 am. 6 hours later, the body of John O'Keefe is found in the front yard of the house, covered in snow in blizzard conditions. He is wearing two shirts, jeans, socks and one shoe. Near his body on the snow are shards of glass and splotches of blood. On this episode of Body Bags, Joseph Scott Morgan will take an up close look at the injuries and find out what really happened to John O'Keefe. Dave Mack will breakdown the story that has divided Boston and together they will try to answer the question: Who Killed John O'Keefe?

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Transcribed Highlights 

00:01.10   Introduction, talk about weather conditions and murder 

02:05.22 Discussion of Karen Read case 

05:05.56 Talk about Media coverage 

09:09.25 Discussion of forensics role in investigation 

14:06.82 Talk about background of relationship 

16:16.35 Breaking down timeline of events 

19:50.94 Discussion of physical injuries   

21:07.56 Talk about Blood Alcohol 

25:20.82 Talk about leaving bar, going to house party 

30:09.48 Talk about Text Messages, getting directions 

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Veronica Butler and Jilian Kelley vanish on their way to pick up Veronica’s children to go to a birthday party. They were supposed to meet up with Veronica Butler’s ex-mother-in-law at a closed gas station in rural Texas County, Oklahoma. But they never make it. On this episode of Body Bags Joseph Scott Morgan will explain how evidence from blood to tire treads will help solve the mystery of the Missing Moms.  

Transcript Highlights 

00:00:00 Introduction of shared custody 

00:03:10 Discussion or relationships and death 

00:06:50 Talk about terrain 

00:11:03 Discussion of moms reported missing 

00:14:08 Talk about how vehicle ended up where it is found 

00:18:46 Discussion of evidence found at scene 

00:23:21Talk about tire tread identification 

00:27:47 Discussion of term “puddle of blood” 

00:31:16 Discussion of meeting place 

00:34:16 Talk about SWAT Teams showing up in Rural County 

00:38:44 Talk about death penalty states 

00:40:56 Discussion identifying body 

00:42:29 Conclusion 

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For years she was labeled “Bones 20” the unidentified victim of the Green River Killer. But now, thanks to police work and Othram Labs, the victim has been named as Tammy Liles. She was from Everett, Washington, and vanished in the summer of 1983. She was only 16 years old when she became a victim of serial killer Gary Ridgeway. On this episode of Body Bags, Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack will take you behind the headlines and into the lab that helped give a name to a young lady who spent decades being called “bones 20”.  

Transcript Highlights  

00:0:16 Introduction – The Green River Killer last victim identified 

00:02:28 Talk about age reference  

00:06:32 Discussion of high-profile murders 

00:10:48 Talk about the Green River Killer 16-year-old victim 

00:15:56 Discussion of identifying remains 

00:20:54 Discussion of the Green River Killer evidence 

00:25:58 Talk about starting with incomplete skeleton 

00:29:41 Discussion of Genetic Genealogy 

00:34:51 Talking about Othram labs 

00:37:39 Conclusion; might be the most noble of pursuits 

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Destiny Duckett’s cousin couldn’t reach her by phone, so she stopped by her apartment to check on her. The cousin knocks on the door, but Destiny doesn’t answer. The cousin can hear the baby crying and she is worried. She calls police to do a welfare check and when they enter Destiny Duckett’s apartment, her 8-week old son is on the bed, crying, and his 22-year-old mother is on the floor, dead. On this episode of Body Bags, Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack will look into the mysterious death of 22-year-old new mother, Destiny Duckett and Joseph Scott Morgan  will explain how fingernails play a keep part in solving the murder. 

Transcript Highlights 

00:00:00 Introduction of case 

00:02:20 Discussion of fingernails  

00:05:37 Talk about cousin called police, heard baby crying 

00:10:56 Discussion of protective order leading to arrest of suspect  

00:15:26 Talk about leaving crying baby on the bed, alone, mother dead on floor 

00:19:43 Discussion of body being the biggest evidence 

00:24:16 Discussion of proving knees were on chest of victim 

00:28:26 Talk about fingernail marks on the neck 

00:33:55 Discussion of why suspect was already in jail 

00:36:33 Conclusion – Convicted, sentencing to come 

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A bag with a burned, dismembered torso is found by a boy out for a horseback ride about a mile from town. The police chief says he was mowing his lawn when he got the call about the headless, armless, legless, burned torso, and from that moment on it was "chaos". On this episode of Body Bags Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack will tell the story of the dismembered and burned torso and how, after 44-years, he was finally identified with DNA and Othram labs.

Transcript Highlights 

00:00:00 Introduction of episode 

00:02:13 Talk about identifying Joseph Caliva 

00:06:15 Discussion of years beginning in 1979 

00:10:40 Talk about dismemberment 

00:15:48 Discussion of what was found 

00:17:39 Talk about burned remains 

00:22:25 Discussion about trying to ID person 

00:27:25 Talk about finding portions of the torso 

00:31:54 Talk about creating a person out of evidence 

00:36:34 Discussion after 44 years, victim identified 

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AUTOPSY REPORT WILL NOT BE RELEASED. On this episode of Body Bags, Joseph Scott Morgan will explain what happened to Madeline Soto and Dave Mack will dig into the back story of the entire family. You will find out by the time she reached 13-years-old, Madeline Soto had already been sexually abused for years. When she was a “missing 13-year-old" from Florida, the news covered every tidbit of information about the search for the teen. One piece of evidence that made it to the press was how Madeline Soto told a friend when she turned 13, she was going to live in the woods. That is why police searched the woods for Madeline.  

Transcript Highlights 

00:00:28 Introduction, talk about parents protecting children 

00:04:28 Talk about Madeline Soto saying she wanted to live in the woods 

00:05:31 Discussion of ages 12 and 13 

00:09:04 Discussion of Madeline not taking cell phone 

00:12:29 Talk about family being told about evidence 

00:16:42 Discussion of time children go to school 

00:20:07 Discussion of Madeline Soto seen in vehicle 

00:21:49 Talk about being haunted by evidence 

00:26:26 Discussion of Madeline Soto 

00:30:26 Talk about video surveillance of suspect 

00:33:22 Discussion of 60 charges against suspect  

00:37:32 Discussion of evidence of previous abuse 

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The fire department shows up at the home of one of their own and find Melissa Lamesch unconscious on the kitchen floor as her home goes up in flames around her. She is on maternity leave from her job as an EMT and is expecting her baby to be born any day. Melissa Lamesch and her unborn baby die in what authorities believe is asphyxiation from the fire. On this episode of Body Bags, Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack will breakdown how trying to burn evidence of a crime, oftentimes creates the evidence needed for conviction.

Transcript Highlights 

00:00:08 Introduction of fire set to cover-up a murder 

00:01:18 Talk about fire and smoke 

00:03:10 Discussion of smoke as evidence 

00:05:05 Discussion of woman, 9 months pregnant, dying in a fire 

00:08:35 Talk about how healing takes place after being burned  

00:11:26 Discussion of hair catching fire in bathroom 

00:14:43 Victim is on maternity leave from job as EMT 

00:18:53 Discussion of the mother and her baby 

00:22:53 Discussion of monoxide 

00:28:01 Talk about suffocation 

00:33:33 Discussion of fire splash patterns 

00:36:55 Talk about the family talking to officials after the fire 

00:40:46 Discussion of dealing with the death of pregnant mother 

00:43:10 Conclusion, Matthew Plote convicted for Murder  

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Deborah Frazier calls 911 and tells them two burglars have shot her boyfriend, and as she is on the phone, a gunshot is heard and Frazier tells the dispatcher she has been shot in the leg by one of the burglars.

Police arrive and discover the first person shot, Mr. Thomas Waddell, is in the back room of his apartment, wrapped in a blanket and a garbage bag and secured with duct tape.

On this episode of Body Bags Joseph Scott Morgan will explain all of the things police will have to believe for Deborah Frazier's story to be true and Dave Mack will explain how Frazier was using a second boyfriend to con Mr Waddell out of his life savings!

Transcript Highlights 

00:00:42 Talk about everything that has to be believed for the story to be true 

00:02:48 Discussion of not believing a story 

00:04:20 Discussion of “victim” shooting her boyfriend in the head 

00:05:53 Talk about cases too difficult to believe 

00:10:54 Talk about self-inflicted gunshot wound 

00:14:19 Discussion of the victim who just retired 

00:18:54 Talk about determining how long person has been dead 

00:23:19 Discuss investigation of digital background 

00:28:34 Talk about GSR test 

00:33:02 Discussion of police on scene, gunshot recorded 

00:37:57 Discussion of what has to be believed by investigators 

00:40:12 Talk about Pictures of a life shared, scattered on the floor 

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Burned remains of a man found inside a foot locker and left in a blueberry field in Michigan were not identified for 13 years. In 2015 the case was called  "The Jack-in-the-Box Murder because it was a catchy title. The remains were not identified until the Ottawa County Sheriff's Office received a tip in 2015 that gave them the information they needed to use dental records to identify the deceased as Robert Caraballo. Investigating Caraballo's life at the time of his death took investigators to the home he shared with his wife and stepdaughter. Joseph Scott Morgan will break down the forensics that brought this case to a conclusion and Dave Mack will help tell the story of how the Jack-in-the-Box Murder became The Fugitive Wife Murder Trial. 

Transcript Highlights 

00:00:44 Introduction of story a burned body in a trunk found in blueberry field 

00:02:40 Talk about conspiracy and escaping to other side of the planet 

00:05:28 Discussion of victim being alive with hammer stuck in skull 

00:08:02 Discussion of injury caused by falling downstairs 

00:12:34 Talk about how remains could not be identified 

00:15:11 Discussion of evidence in hammer attack 

00:19:49 Discussion of hitting head with a hammer 

00:23:51Talk about how the skull breaks 

00:28:19 Discussion of destroying a body 

00:32:37 Discussion of “old school” identifying remains 

00:35:15 Talk about the plan to push victim down the stairs, hit him with a bat 

00:35:53 Talk about the conspiracy 

00:38:01 Discussion of law in Italy for hotel guests 

00:39:15 Discussion of cover-up 

00:40:06 Beverly McCallum guilty on all charges 

00:40:42 Talk about keeping a secret 

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Suicide or Murder?  Kendy Howard is found in a bathtub full of water with a gunshot wound to the head.  His body is cold, but the water in the tub is warm!  Red Flag number one.  On this episode of Body Bags Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack will take a look at all of the "Red Flags" present in the reported suicide of Kendy Howard.  Why is there so little blood in the water? Why is her ex-trooper husband arrested at the airport? The biggest question of all, is the death of Kendy Howard a Suicide or Murder?

Transcript Highlights 

00:00:27 Joe talks about admiration for Troopers 

00:03:03 Discussion of law enforcement 

00:05:59 Discussion of “Red Flags” 

00:08:14 Talk about the water is warm, body is cold 

00:12:23 Investigation of suicide/murder 

00:16:33 Discussion of damage caused by gunshot in mouth 

00:17:49 Talk about direction of bullet 

00:21:26 Comparing murder of Travis Alexander 

00:25:53 Defining different types of asphyxiation 

00:30:08 Talk about injuries “frozen in time” 

00:35:33 Discussion of how much blood would be expected 

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The victim was alive when her head was cut from her body. As disturbing as that sounds, today's episode of Body Bags with Joseph Scott Morgan will attempt to breakdown the just released autopsy report of Mei Li Haskell. Her husband, Samuel Haskell IV is accused of killing her, removing her head from her torso, placing the torso in a bag and dropping it in a trash bin where a homeless guy would find it 14 hours later! Joseph Scott Morgan will breakdown the forensics that will come into the trial and Dave Mack will dig deep in the Hollywood that can give us a true horror story that is scarier than anyone would ever dare put on film.

Transcript Highlights 

00:00:49 The son of a hotshot 

00:03:04 “Don’t you know who I am?” 

00:05:03 Discussion of “the finder” 

00:08:58 Talk about the bags felt like meat 

00:09:26 Discussion of workers bring back bags 

00:12:20 Discussion of cross contamination 

00:16:58 Talk about hiring workers 

00:20:56 Discussion of what police can do 

00:26:22 Talk about the person who found the body 

00:30:54 Mentions victim’s parents still missing 

00:33:01 Discuss autopsy report, victim alive when head cut off 

00:38:20 Discussion of using power tools in dismemberment 

00:42:54 Mentions trial will be all forensics 

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Iris, 1, comes home from a weekend with her father and his girlfriend and mom finds a water bead in her diaper.

Taking her to the hospital, the toddler passes more water beads, button-shaped batteries, and a screw. Thinking she was finding things and putting them in her mouth, nobody realized a monster was watching the baby.

Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack break down the case that is more than the murder of a toddler, it's how evil came into the child’s life and plotted and planned her death for more than half of her life.  

Transcript Highlights 

00:00:20 Introduction 

00:02:39 Discussion of toddlers 

00:04:22 Talk about items in diaper 

00:07:34 Discussion of beads, batteries, screw 

00:10:12 Talk about toddlers putting things in their mouth 

00:14:34 Discussion of solvent 

00:16:18 Discussion of evil 

00:18:27 Talk about taking child to hospital by plane 

00:22:08 Explaining a subdural hematoma 

00:24:01 Discussion of optic nerves 

00:27:16 Talk about how healthy baby dies in 4 days 

00:30:15 Discussion of notes made by doctors and nurses 

00:32:54 Talk about children swallow everyday items 

00:35:31Discussion suspect researched how to beat a polygraph 

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Two severed heads, an arm here, a leg there, on this episode of Body Bags with Joseph Scott Morgan, the Reel Amityville Horror will meet the Real Amityville Horror.  A group of Long Island High School students find a severed left arm on the side of a road in Babylon on their way to school. While Police investigate the scene, a K-9 officer locates a leg sticking out of a pile of leaves in a wooded area, not far from the original scene. Over time more body parts were found in multiple areas. Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack will detail what was found and where and what the suspects were up against when they began writing their own Amityville Horror.

Transcript Highlights 

00:00:07 Introduction – to horror 

00:01:39 Discussion about charges for dismembering a person 

00:04:48 Talk about how the bodies were treated in death 

00:08:03 Discussion of arm with tattoo found in tree limb 

00:11:51 Body part found by high school students on the way to school 

00:15:16 Parts of 2 bodies found, 4 people charged 

00:15:17 None of the 4 people is charged with murder 

00:16:14 Discuss what the ME will have to do with parts  

00:18:04 Talking about Black Dhalia  

00:19:49 Discussion of none of the drains work in the rental 

00:21:30 Discussion of body parts from more than one person 

00:25:11 Talk about unique case 

00:28:51 Joe describes investigation taking place 

00:31:30 Discussion of dismemberment  

00:34:01 Discussion of blood, muscle, skin, hair, Drano won’t work 

00:37:13 Talk about revisiting the case in the future 

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School Principal Cornelius Green arrives at the Amtrak train station in St. Louis after spending a few days in Chicago. Leaving the train station Green goes to straight to the apartment of his girlfriend, 3rd grade school teacher, Jocelyn Peters. Arriving at her apartment Green finds Peters, who is 7-months pregnant, in bed. He immediately calls 911 and tells them his girlfriend has been shot in the head, send help now! Jocelyn Peters is pronounced dead on the scene and the investigation begins with the person who found her, Cornelius Green. Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack will break down the story that leads to stolen school funds, a hitman, and a potato gun silencer, on this episode of Body Bags.

Transcript Highlights 

00:00:57 Joe talks about the impact of 3rd grade teacher 

00:03:12 Discussion of victim 

00:08:54 Discussion of Green sending money to Cutler 

00:11:23 Talk about alibi set up by Green taking train to Chicago 

00:14:20 Discussion about finding pregnant woman shot in the head 

00:16:02 Talk about investigation, alibi  

00:19:50 Talk about no sign of forced entry 

00:23:18 Discussion of “potato silencer” 

00:28:12 Talking about objects changing trajectory 

00:32:30 Discussion of Federal and State charges  

00:36:29 Discuss Phillip Cutler in court 

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When Phillip Chism, 14, doesn't come home from school, his mother calls the police to report him missing.

As the town begins to look for the 9th grader, word spreads around town that a 24-year-old teacher, Colleen Ritzer, is also missing. Chism is found walking along a road just after midnight. After a quick search of his backpack,  he is arrested.

Later in the morning, Colleen Ritzer's body is found on school grounds, sexually positioned with a folded note next to her body that says, "I hate you all."

Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack break down the story of the student from Tennessee and the horrifying final moments in the life of Colleen Ritzer.

Transcription Highlights 

00:01:00 Introduction of location, suspect, and victim 

00:02:53 Suspect is student, 14, victim is a teacher 

00:04:04 Discussion of suspect family 

00:08:22 Talk about motive and possible “trigger” 

00:11:49 Discussion of why victim went to public bathroom 

00:15:28 Discussion of witness and surveillance video 

00:19:07 Talk about investigation, pinging cell phones 

00:21:47 Discussion of suspect on surveillance video  

00:27:25 Talk about body being covered  

00:30:36 Breaking down the evidence 

00:34:35 Discussion of sentence 

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Christa Pike was 18-years-old when she thought her 19-year-old job corps classmate, Colleen Slemmer, was trying to steal her boyfriend, Tadaryl Shipp. Pike spent over 30-minutes beating Colleen Slemmer with her hands and feet, as well as a box cutter and a meat cleaver. Slemmer tried to escape. Shipp,17, caught her so Pike could continue the beating. Pike carved a pentagram into Slemmer's chest, used the box cutter to slice her throat. When she didn't die, Pike picked up a chunk of asphalt and slammed it onto Slemmer's head. The next day Pike brought a piece of Slemmer's skull to breakfast and told classmates what she had done. Convicted of murder and sentenced to death, Christa Pike now wants a judge to vacate her death sentence. Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack detail the story that Joe Scott says is the worst case he has ever seen. 

Transcript Highlights 

00:00:31 Joseph Scott Morgan says he has never seen a crime so vile 

00:02:10 Woman on death row in Tennessee  

00:05:16 Talk about dynamic between suspects and victim 

00:10:09 Description of box cutter and meat cleaver  

00:15:03 Discussion of pentagram carved into chest 

00:20:56 Description of wounds to victim 

00:25:15 Talk about how to occult and satanism factor into case 

00:30:40 Description of taking piece of skull as a trophy 

00:35:50 Discussion about letting murderer out of prison 

00:39:15 Talk about sadistic murder 

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The senseless murder of Laken Riley on the campus of the University of Georgia has the nation talking about everything from safety on a college campus to immigration.

Laken Riley didn't know the man who killed her, but she knew she was in a dire situation when they met. Jose Antonio Ibarra, 26, allegedly attacked and killed the 22-year-old while she was out for a jog in Athens.

Joseph Scott Morgan will explain how the evidence in the case points to Laken Riley attempting to call 911 and Dave Mack will fill in the blanks on the timeline on this edition of Body Bags.

Transcript Highlights

00:15.71 Joseph Scott Morgan talks about college life

02:39.50 Talk about nursing school, education

05:33.55 Discussion of victim 
 
09:56.27 Talk about timeline

14:03.73 Talk about seeing victim as an object

18:54.67 Discussion of blunt force trauma

22:13.70 Suspect arrives in USA illegally

31:20.86 Talk about apartment search

36:08.59 Discuss How suspect and victim were strangers

40:30.36 First Homicide at UGA in 30 years

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A Minnesota man claims his mistress fatally shot herself with his gun. The question of Murder or Suicide plays out in this episode of Body Bags with Joseph Scott Morgan. Joe will walk you through all of the forensic problems with the story being told. And when everything is said and done, you decide, was it murder, or suicide?

Transcript Highlights 

00:01:20 Would a right-handed person use left hand to shoot 

00:02:19 Discuss murder or suicide 

00:04:15 Talk about “accidental” 

00:05:51Discuss science and determination 

00:11:16 How quick does a body become stiff 

00:13:50 Different jurisdictions 

00:18:25 Talk about the scene 

00:21:40 Difference in suicide among genders 

00:26:27Discuss drying blood 

00:29:31Discuss ER Nurse can’t do CPR 

00:33:14 Talk about short timeline 

00:38:50 Discuss can you wash away evidence? 

00:41:36 Talk about skin, brain, muzzle flash  

00:44:14 Discuss desire to help people and achieve and throw it all away 

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Audrii Cunningham leaves for the school bus stop just like every morning, but she doesn't get off the bus that afternoon. The family panics. 

Police are called, and an Amber Alert goes out. Neighbors go door to door. A family friend living in a camper in the backyard of Audrii's house joins in the search.

Police find out McDougal was the last person to see Audrii, when he was supposed to take her to the bus stop.  Audrii never got on the bus. Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack will break down the story of the search and ultimate discovery of 11-year-old Audrii Cunningham, found tied to a rock and thrown in the Trinity River in this edition of Body Bags.

Transcription highlights
00:20.72 Introduction of the case of Audrii Cunningham

01:54.67 Audrii's body tied to rock

03:57.40 Suspect was supposed to drive Audrii to bus stop05:50.16 Audrii was found in general area where her backpack was found

08:31.50 Officials had to ask for river flow to be reduced

12:08.84 Different groups have to share credit in finding Audrii

15:55.43 How will they figure out what McDougal did?

20:14.33 Investigators have not told us the condition of Audrii's body

24:14.42 Discussion of what may have happened to Audrii

28:09.19 Discussion of the company we keep, did her dad know what kind of criminal McDougal is

33:50.15 Talk about how her body may been like a kite on a string

38:07.95 Discussion about DNA under fingernails of Audrii

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Annabel Meenan was only 21, but she had been romantically involved with 33-year-old Leroy Brahm since she was in high school.

Their relationship was filled with abuse but on the final night of her life, video cameras placed around the home recorded every hit with a fist and kick with a foot. Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack will break down what happened when Leroy Brahm beat his girlfriend unconscious, dropped a couch on top of her, then laid down on the couch and went to sleep as the weight slowly crushed Annabel.

Transcript Highlights 

00:01:42 Discussion of age 

00:03:00 Talk about Annabel 

00:06:07 Victim had sofa dropped on her 

00:09:24 Talk about cameras recorded every punch 

00:13:38 Discuss the cameras everywhere 

00:18:51 Talk about contusions 

00:21:36 Discuss injuries suffered by the attacker 

00:23:54 Talk about evidence all over the house 

00:28:38 Discussion of ruling death a heart attack 

00:32:23 Surveillance cameras record everything 

00:35:37 Discuss domestic abuser calls 911 

00:37:23 Talk about Annabel is gone too young 

00:38:50 Domestic Abuse Hotline 

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Lacey Fletcher was on the volleyball team when she is in 9th grade, and she looks like any other healthy teen. But her parents say she is "on the spectrum" and take her out of school and take her home. For the next 20 years, they don't take their daughter to the doctor, they don't do anything with her until she becomes totally non-verbal. For the last 12 years of her life she didn't move from her spot on the couch, she slept in her spot, she ate in her spot, she went to the bathroom in her spot, and it was rarely cleaned. Lacey Fletcher dies at 36, after withstanding years of pain and suffering. Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack take a look behind the sofa to answer the questions about the woman who melted into the couch.

Transcript Highlights

00:02:40Talking about melting 

00:06:22 Talk about smell of urine, feces, nothing cleaned  

00:09:46 Talk about staying in same spot for years 

00:12:46 Discussion of healthy and active to dead on the couch 

00:15:14 Talk about Lacey Fletcher on the couch 20 years 

00:19:25 Discuss bed sores joining with other bed sores 

00:23:15 Talk about chronic bone infection  

00:27:17 Describing her condition at 36-years-old 

00:31:10 Discussion of weight as Lacey Fletcher weighed 96 pounds 

00:34:53 Talk about maggots in her body 

00:38:56 How did Lacey Fletcher get covid? 

00:42:01 Discussion – she is non-verbal, always in pain, and trapped 

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Harmony Montgomery was missing for two years before anyone looked for her. Police began looking for a 7-year-old girl and soon realized they might really be looking for remains of a 5-year-old girl. She is still among the missing but presumed dead. Her father is on trial for her murder. Join Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack as they investigate the heartbreaking story of a little girl who never had a chance, and the forensics that just might get justice for her yet. 

Transcript Highlights

01:34.45 Joe talks about memory 

04:22.26 Discussion of years since Harmony has been seen 

07:22.44 Talk about Harmony, looked nervous 

10:09.25 Harmony was never enrolled in school 

14:36.89 Discussion of police find Harmony's Dad 

20:32.13 Talk about moment of clarity 

25:22.45 Discussion of what really happened to Harmony 

31:02.25 Discussion of waiting 2 years to call about child 

35:18.87 Discussion about life lived in a car 

38:25.26 Talk about neither adult checking on Harmony 

43:49.54 Discussion of carrying Harmony 

45:43.17 Finally went too far, hit too hard 

50:51.68 Discussion perfect hiding spot was found 

54:25.15 Discussion about how body is stored 

59:33.43 Talk about using bathtub for dismemberment 

59:19.23 Discussion of what might be found of Harmony 

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The new owners of a house in Colorado are pleasantly surprised to find the previous owners left behind a working freezer in the garage. Pleasure turns to horror as they begin removing bags of frozen meat, and find a human head and hands! Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack will explain what it will take to solve the mystery. 

Transcript Highlights 

00:01:27Talk about gruesome discovery 

00:02:05 Discussion of yard sale 

00:02:58 Talk about hoarder 

00:04:10 Talk about free working freezer 

00:07:36 Discussion of frozen head 

00:09:23 Talk about getting more than you bargained for 

00:11:21Discussion of calling 911 

00:14:27Discussion about dismemberment show 

00:18:17 Talk about previous homeowners 

00:21:23Discussion about finding the rest of the body 

00:24:28 Neighborhood people talk about coroner on site 

00:27:49 Discussion about all the items that left the area 

C00:30:47Discussion of wrapping the head 

00:33:51Talk about investigation of body parts 

00:37:43 Discussion about freezer slowing decomposition 

00:39:25 We're going to need to follow up on this case. 

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Jeff and Kat West are a typical American couple living just south of Birmingham Alabama. They have a 12-year-old daughter, Jeff works in security, Kat is a stay at home mom, but she has developed a very successful online business, in adult entertainment. She posts sexy photos on multiple sites and has her own pay site that provides even more adult photos. Jeff often takes the photos for his wife, and she is becoming quite popular online. Everything seems fine when Jeff and Kat go out for date night, photos of the couple in a store that evening show them lovingly touching one another.  How is it possible that the next morning as the sun comes up, Kat West's lifeless body is found laying out in the front yard of her house with a bottle of absinthe placed on her broken phone right next to her posed body. Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack take you through the last night in the life of Kat West. 

Transcribe Highlights 

00:00:05 Origin of things 

00:01:46 Talk about a different kind of fairy 

00:02:29 Discussion of life 

00:03:16 Talk about very special drink 

00:05:59 Discussion setting up a scene 

00:10:54 Talk about date night 

00:12:50 Discussion strong alcohol 

00:16:48 Talk about Jeff and Kat playful at store 

00:19:42 Discussion of intimate photos, sharing 

00:22:32 Talk theory Jeff West beat his wife 

00:25:32 Discussion of Stalkers  

00:29:37 Talk tiny details in investigation 

00:34:02 Discussion of two primary spots of blood 

00:38:58 Talk about holding bottle as weapon 

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A road crew in south west Georgia finds on old console tv at an illegal dumpsite on the side of a country highway. As they try to move the tv, the workers find a suitcase inside, and it is too heavy to just be filled with clothes. As they open the suitcase they open up a mystery that will last decades. Inside the suitcase is cement, and poking out of the cement, the body of a small child. Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack will help tell the story of Baby Jane Doe, the girl thrown away like garbage, and the people who spent 35-years trying to find out her name. 

Transcribe Highlights 

00:00:37 Trash Dump off the side of road 

00:01:46 Talk about abandoned child  

00:02:29 Discussion of life 

00:03:16 Talk about the case, started in 1988 

00:05:59 Discussion of area 

00:10:54 Talk about getting body out of cement 

00:13:30 Discussion of cement wouldn’t encase everything 

00:16:48 Talk about mixing concrete and body 

00:19:42 Evidence at scene leads to home 

00:22:32 Talk about body breaking down in cement 

00:25:32 Discussion of investigators  

00:28:37 Talk about technology catching up  

00:31:02 This case hasn’t been to trial yet 

00:33:58 Talk about Genetic Genealogy 

00:35:39 Discussion can there be justice  

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Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack will tell the story of a murder and why the man convicted of the murder will be put to death in a very unique way.

Kenneth Eugene Smith was convicted of the 1988 murder-for-hire of Elizabeth Sennett. Pastor Charles Sennett recruited Billy Gray Williams to kill his wife Elizabeth and Williams hired John Forrest Parker and Kenneth Eugene Smith to carry out the murder. A week after the murder, Charles Sennett confessed to his family and then shot himself in the head.

Williams, Parker, and Smith were arrested, charged and convicted. Williams was sentenced to life and died in prison in 2020. Parker and Smith were sentenced to death. Parker was executed by lethal injection in 2010. Smith was scheduled to be executed in November of 2022 but the execution team was unable to connect the intravenous lines before time ran out.

After much debate, the state agreed not to try lethal injection again on Smith but would instead use a method of execution: Nitrogen Hypoxia. Joseph Scott Morgan will explain what it is and why it is being tried for the first time...ever.

Transcript Highlights  

00:02:29 Joe talks about travel 

00:05:55 Talk Investigation of murder 

00:06:41 Talk about experience as death investigator 

00:08:37 Discuss sharing PTSD 

00:12:18 Talk about nitrogen  

00:14:21 Discussion Death Penalty 

00:18:56 Talk about execution used to be public  

00:21:30 Discussion about new method 

00:23:13 Talk about the Crime  

00:25:51 Talk Murder-for-Hire plot 

00:27:31 Discussion public execution 

00:30:24 Talk about the debate to come 

00:35:17 Discussion Is there a “best way” to kill somebody 

00:38:22 Talk about assisted suicide 

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What really happened when four lifelong friends gathered to watch their Chiefs play the Chargers?

After the game, one guy goes to sleep inside and his three friends go outside and die in the backyard. And for two days their bodies lay frozen while their friend continues to sleep inside, ignoring calls and texts from friends and family worried about their loved ones.

And WHY are the police called to do a "welfare check" when there are three dead men in the backyard?

Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack cover the story inside and out to find out what happened when four friends gather to cheer for their favorite team, and three end up dead in the backyard.

Transcript Highlights  

00:02:29 Joe shares childhood memories 

00:05:55 Talk Saints Football 

00:06:41 Discussion watching football 

00:08:37 Discuss NFL fans 

00:12:18 Talk about friends  

00:14:21 Discussion weather, first night not cold 

00:18:56 Talk about working multiple deaths 

00:21:30 Discussion about “mystery person” 

00:23:13 Discuss medical issue, hypothermia 

00:25:51 Talk is it possible to sleep 48 hours? 

00:27:31 Discussion of how come they guys didn’t break-in? 

00:31:21 Talk about calling it a “welfare check” 

00:35:17 Discussion Jordan Willis is brilliant scientist 

00:40:35 Talk Jordan Willis talks to police without lawyer 

00:45:21 Discussion of Fentanyl 

48:30.84 No Trauma, no gunshots, 3 dead 

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When Connecticut mother-of-5 Jennifer Dulos suddenly vanished, the world stopped to look. While the world was looking for the missing mom, her estranged husband, Fotis Dulos, and his girlfriend, Michelle Troconis, drove around town dropping off bags of trash in public trash bins. Join Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack as they break down the story of the missing mom and the people who betrayed her.

Transcript Highlights  

00:02:29 Joe shares childhood memories 

00:05:55 Talk about family  

00:06:41 Discussion of Troconis trial  

00:08:37 Discussion of Dulos marriage 

00:12:18 Discussion of what the Nanny notices 

00:14:21 Talk about paper towels used to clean 

00:18:56 Talk about police body cam footage 

00:21:30 Discussion of testimony 

00:23:13 Talk about several types of tests 

00:25:51 Talk about stains and what they mean 

00:27:31 Discussion of blood drops 

00:29:42 Description of different cast-off blood trails 

00:31:21 Joe talks about blood 

00:35:17 Discussion about determining death 

00:40:35 Talk about blood and DNA locations 

00:45:21 Discussion of amount of blood 

00:50:38 Joe talks about suicide 

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Alec Baldwin has been indicted again for Involuntary Manslaughter. Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack will pull back the curtain on the "Rust" movie set and explain what really happened, who is lying, and will there ever be justice. Should somebody go to jail, or was it a horrible accident? Listen and decide for yourself.

Transcript Highlights  

00:01:29 Describing the shooting location 

00:04:45 Talk about the victims 

00:05:31 Discussion of responsibility on set 

00:08:37 Joe talks about being a producer 

00:11:08 Talk about armorer 

00:13:45 Discussion Alec Baldwin charged 

00:15:38 Joe breaks down angles of shot 

00:21:00 Talk about producer role on set 

00:22:44 Dave tells story about loaded gun in house 

00:24:59 Discussion of handling a gun 

00:27:21 Talk about Baldwin interview about shooting 

00:29:24 Joe talks forensic science ballistics 

00:31:48 Discussion of accountability 

00:34:07 Talk about shooting cases 

00:40:48 Joe talks about the 44 Magnum 

00:45:37 Description of shooting of Brandon Lee 

00:48:18 Discussion about handling firearms on set 

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The last thing Linda Frickey heard as she lay beaten, bruised, with her arm ripped off her body, was a friendly voice saying, "we'll pray for you,"

The 73-year-old woman was the victim of a carjacking that was pre-planned by a group of 4 thugs in New Orleans, the oldest only 17 years old. Join Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack as they go behind the headlines on the story of a loving grandmother that died in a gruesome way, with her arm torn off her body. But witnesses ask; Where's the blood?

Transcript Highlights  

00:01:29 Talk about Grandmothers 

00:04:45 Joe doesn’t want his hometown tarnished  

00:05:31 Discussion about Carjacking 

00:08:37 Talk about 18-year-old taking a life 

00:10:20 Joe talks about living in this area of NOLA 

00:11:08 Discussion about witnesses 

00:13:45 Talk about ringleader John Honore 

00:15:38 Talk about being dragged two blocks  

00:21:00 Talk about criminals attacked woman from behind 

00:22:44 Discussion of being stuck, drug down the block  

00:24:59 Discussion having arm ripped off your body 

00:27:21 Talk about how witness covered her body 

00:29:24 Discussion of damage done to police officer drug in similar way 

00:31:48 Talk about the last thing Mrs. Frickey heard was “we’re praying for you 

00:34:07 Discussion of what happened to the blood? 

00:40:48 Talk about determining cause of death 

00:45:37 Talk about how Mrs. Frickey was beaten in car, then drug down street 

00:48:18 Discussion about CCTV cameras 

00:49:44 Suspect has been sentenced to prison 

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The death of Jeffrey Epstein has been debated since the minute it was announced to the world. On this episode of Body Bags, Joseph Scott Morgan will share what it was like to be on the air with the news and notice "red flags" as certain parts of the death story didn't seem to be correct.

Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack will break down the death of Jeffrey Epstein. Did Jeffrey Epstein commit suicide, or was he murdered? 

Transcript Highlights 

00:01:17 Joe hears story about where the meanest men in America live 

00:04:47 Joseph Scott Morgan talks about covering Epstein death 

00:08:23 Discuss first attack/suicide attempt  

00:11:45 Talk about unusual circumstances 

00:14:37 Discuss conflicting statements about noose 

000:17:15 Talk about Epstein allowed unmonitored phone call  

00:18:23 Discuss no cellmate to attack or stop suicide 

00:20:33 Talk about two nooses in the cell 

00:22:42 Discussion of cell condition and contents 

00:25:49 Talk about July 23rd event 

00:29:25 Discuss observing body at time of death 

00:32:25 Talk about putting hospital gown on Epstein 

00:34:03 Mark Epstein told his brother may have been dead 2 hours or more 

00:37:40 Talk about Epstein body wheeled into hospital 

00:40:34 Discussion of hyoid bone 

00:42:05 Discuss facts of the body at time of death 

00:44:24 Discuss agreement overturned regarding suicide 

00:45:14 Talk about autopsy, who was present 

00:47:00 Discuss distribution of force 

00:48:16 Mentions that noose wasn't collected for evidence. 

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When a panicked husband calls 911 for help saying his wife has overdosed the first officer on the scene notices some pretty big red flags.

The forensics tell the story of what killed Maria Munoz, but Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack will dig deeper to find out what really happened to a Texas mom with a penchant for writing in her journal, about everything. 

Transcript Highlights 

00:01:29 Talk about nurses, great investigators 

00:03:21 Discussion of body cam 

00:04:45 Talk about scene, shadows 

00:05:31 Talk about what police expect based on 911 call 

00:06:55 Discussion of relationship  

00:08:37 Talk about surgery, different duties 

00:10:20 Talk about steroid use 

00:11:08 Talk about husband being suspicious 

00:12:06 Discussion of red flags 

00:13:45 Talk about husband pockets pill bottle 

00:15:38 Talk about medicine bottle on scene 

00:21:00 Talk about medical pro letting police officer take over cpr 

00:22:44 Discussion of husband talking to police 

00:24:59 Discussion of Police body cam 

00:27:21 Talk about how to find needle hole in arm 

00:29:24 Discussion of suspect  

00:31:48 Talk about scenes involving drugs 

00:34:07 Discussion of home dynamics 

00:35:55 Discussion of medical careers 

00:40:48 Talk about tox screen  

00:43:52 Discussion of toxicology report 

00:45:37 Talk about how drugs were used 

00:48:18 Discussion about Maria diary entries 

00:49:44 Diary and Toxicology gave jury no choice 

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Savanah Soto, 18, and her boyfriend Matthew Guerra, 22, are reported missing the day before Savanah is to have labor induced for their baby. Their car is found, and Savanah is found dead in the front passenger seat with Matthew shot to death in the back seat.On this episode of Body Bags, Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack break down the truth from fiction in the saddest story from what should be the happiest of times. 

Transcript Highlights 

00:01:54 Talk about having a child 

00:03:23 Talk about responsibility 

00:05:53 Discussion of age of victims 

00:07:49 Talk about family dynamic  

00:09:24 Discussion about safety 

00:12:53 Talk about location of bodies in the car 

00:14:33 Discussion of Matthew being drug into back seat 

00:16:12 Discussion of what long hair means to crime scene 

00:18:42 Talk about where victims were murdered 

00:19:46 Windows in the kia are dark 

00:22:01 What is being said between truck driver and kia? 

00:23:48 Discussion of people traveling with body in car 

00:25:52 Baby is autopsied too 

00:26:59Talk about Baby birth after death 

00:28:23 Talk about Matthew identified quickly 

00:32:36 Kia Optima located 

00:34:58 Phone Pings will help find more cameras 

00:35:55 Talk about bad cameras, great picture of suspects 

00:37:01 Discussion of DNA that will likely be found 

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The Idaho house where Madison Mogen , Kaylee Goncalves, Xana Kernodle, and Ethan Chapin were murdered has been demolished.   Prosecution and Defense were both in agreement about the resident being demolished before the trial.

Join Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack as they discuss what might be missed and who might be helped by the biggest pieced of evidence being destroyed. 

Transcript Highlights 

00:01:08 Talk about why the odd shaped home had to come down 

00:02:18 Discussion about destroying house before trial 

00:03:47 Compare being able to visit the home of Lizzie Borden 

 00:05:47 Discussion of taking down horrible crime scenes 

00:08:33 Comparing evidence like knife to house, would a picture of knife be sufficient 

00:09:06 Discussion of both sides in agreement in taking building down 

00:11:28 Talk about how to tell if someone could hear noise from top to bottom of house 

00:13:36 Discussion of first-person perspective 

00:15:48 Discussion of Parkland scene 

00:17:42 Talk about taking jury to crime scene 

00:19:26 Discussion of house layout – would killer have to be familiar 

00:20:39 Talk about moving around rooms in the dark 

00:21:53 Discussion about seeing size of rooms and 'ear' witness

00:24:15 Talk about effective documentation 

00:26:23 Discussion about where suspect entered home 

00:27:07 Discussion about room size 

00:29:51 Talk about dynamic distribution of blood, being able to see it in context 

00:31:32 Discussion of Jeffrey MacDonald case, jury saw murder scene in house 

00:32:4 Talk about without house, no way to know where sound would go 

00:33:51 Discussion comparing Gettysburg site to a house 

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Timothy Ferguson's mother calls police. Her son is unresponsive. Timothy Ferguson is also 15-years-old weighing just 69 pounds when he died of malnutrition and hypothermia. 

Join Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack as they detail -Timothy Ferguson's painful life at the hands of his evil mother and brother. The teen lives on a diet of water and bread soaked in hot sauce,  followed by ice baths.   

Transcript Highlights

00:00:00 Joseph Scott Morgan shares memories of Grandmother cooking chicken 

00:04:15 Discussion of Timothy Ferguson, 15, starved to death by his mother

00:05:37 Discussion of food being used as mechanism for torture

00:06:52 Talk about Shanda Vander Ark fled Oklahoma with children

00:08:56 Explanation of how using food as a ‘kindness’ 

00:11:05 Talk about dark choices made by Shanda Vander Ark regarding her son 

00:13:05 Discussion of Timothy’s older brother Paul being involved in the abuse

00:14:51 Joseph Scott Morgan describes “impact: injury – slapped, punched.

00:15:28 Talk about how common that one child will be chosen for abuse while other siblings abuse victim as well 

00:16:14 Discussion about abuse,  malnutrition impossible to hide

00:17:15 How to determine how long Timothy was abused

00:18:35 Description - malnutrition can “stunt growth”. 

00:20:40 Discussion of Shanda Vander Ark Defense, claims she had PTSD

00:21:51 Joseph Scott Morgan explains how Timothy Ferguson was digesting his own fat cells due to malnutrition 

00:22:58 Timothy Ferguson’s body already compromised 

00:26:41 Timothy Ferguson was given bread and water, and hot sauce for torture 

00:27:56 Talk about hot sauce “Carolina Reaper” being placed on bread for Ferguson to eat 

00:29:00 Discussion of Timothy Ferguson being kept in tiny room under stairs, developing bed sores 

00:30:56 Description of Timothy Ferguson breathing out of his mouth like fish out of water 

00:32:09 Discussion of Ice Bath’s used to punish Timothy Ferguson 

00:33:28 Timothy Ferguson never recovered from last Ice Bath, cause of death – hypothermia and malnutrition 

00:36:02 Discussion of food – mother chained refrigerator and cabinets in kitchen 

00:38:00 Verdict - Shanda Vander Ark, guilty of murder, son Paul guilty of Child Abuse 

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The opioid crisis has brought death and devastation to families all over the world and fentanyl has only made things worse. On this episode of Body Bags, Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack will take a close look at three very different cases involving fentanyl that all have the same end result, death. A wife allegedly uses fentanyl as a weapon to kill her husband, a 20-year-old faces second-degree murder for giving a teen girl a pill with fentanyl, and a toddler is dead when he comes into contact with fentanyl in his daycare. 

Transcript Highlights 

00:00:00 Discussion: To be free from pain. 

00:01:44 Talk about from Tylenol to Fentanyl  

00:02:53 Discussion of population desiring to be free from pain, self-medicating  

00:04:43 Talk about the opioid crisis 

00:07:28 Discussion about the strength of fentanyl  

00:10:16 Joe points out how fentanyl can be pressed into other drugs 

00:11:51 Description of what an overdose from opioid looks like 

00:13:01 Discussing three fentanyl related cases today; Kouri Richins, NYC daycare, and 15-year-old dead from pill 

00:14:38 Talk about murder charge in death of 15-year-old girl

00:16:46 Discussion of coroner ruling drug overdose as a “homicide” 

00:18:35 Talk about California case, 15-year-old dies from fentanyl 

00:22:35 Discussion of pills made in a garage rather than a laboratory 

00:23:43 Talk about a 22-month-old child in a daycare exposed to fentanyl 

00:26:49 Discussion of “binders” used in making the pills

00:28:48 Description of toddlers in daycare with fentanyl kept directly underneath “nap mats” 

00:30:58 Fentanyl used as weapon, tasteless, odorless 

00:32:36 Talk about Kouri Richins alleged attempts to poison husband 

00:34:33 How to determine if drug was taken as recreation or used as weapon 

00:36:01 Discussion of opioid deaths 

00:38:36 Talk about tox screen 

00:40:28 Discussion of Fentanyl and therapeutic levels  

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When Camille Balla calls a coworker and says "I think I killed my mother", the coworker calls 911 on her way to Balla's mother's house. Police find a scene straight out of a horror movie as the follow a blood splatter trail leading to the body of Francisca Monteiro-Balla. Checking the body for vitals an officer notices something on a box a few feet away. It isn't something anyone expects to see, two eyeballs, sitting on a box, appearing to watch the officers as they try to save the life of Francisca Monteiro-Balla.

Join Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack as they take a close-up look at a case that is just as scary and strange at the beginning as it is in the end. 

Transcript Highlights

00:01:26 Joseph Scott Morgan compares Lewis Powell screaming “I am Mad” to  
Camille Balla screaming “I am a murderer” 

00:02:50 Talk about Police arrive to scene and find woman’s eyes removed 

00:04:05 Dave Mack breaks down story of Camille Balla calls co-worker and tells her “I think I killed my mother” 

00:06:12 Talk about County Jail versus prison 

00:08:05 Discussion about Camille Balla screaming “I’m a murderer” 

00:10:08 Discussion of bloody crime scene, eyeballs removed from victim, placed on cardboard box 

00:11:25 Describing difference between blood “spatter” and blood “splatter” 

00:13:46 Discussion about victim’s injuries 

00:16:01 Talk about the fight between mother and daughter, and eyeballs removed from victim 

00:17:56 Joe describes removal of eyeball 

00:20:37 Discussion of suspect removing eyes from the front 

00:22:43 Talk about Camille Balla claims to have smoked marijuana laced with Flocka prior to attack on her mother 

00:26:12 Discussion of charges being reduced from First-Degree Murder to Manslaughter 

00:28:34 Talk about broken glass around scene, blood from perpetrator and victim co-mingled making thing forensically more complicated 

00:29:06 Camille Balla pleaded guilty to manslaughter, sentenced to 15-years in prison followed by 15-years on probation.  

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An adult female body is found outside of Council Bluffs city limits. The body was found with bruises all over her body, a large laceration on her head, her body was  found frozen to the ground. Also, her face is missing. The body is of a woman who has been missing for 11 days, 60-year-old Ilene Gowan. Investigators will use everything at their disposal to determine how the grandmother ended up dead in a ditch without her face, and who is responsible for her death.

Join Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack as they breakdown a case that includes forensics of a frozen body as well as the latest video surveillance tools that creates a timeline that builds a map leading right to the killer.

Transcript Highlights 

00:00:06 Joseph Scott Morgan talks about scene of crime 

00:02:42 Victim 60-year-old woman, without a face 

00:04:00 Talk about victim and suspect relationship 

00:06:22 Brammer does not report girlfriend missing 

00:07:44 Talk about remains being discarded like trash 

00:09:48 Discussion about alcohol and relationships  

00:11:21 Victim is missing for 11 days  

00:12:49 Talk about remains still frozen at autopsy 

00:16:46 Discussion of weather on decomposition  

00:18:32 Talk about arriving to scene of crime 

00:22:54 Discussion about Pathologist in the field  

00:24:01 Victim face is missing 

00:27:19 Timeline: victim last seen on 13, reported missing on 15th 

00:30:37 Discussion of Post-Mortem and Anti-Mortem 

00:31:36 Video evidence of Brammer in truck with victim 

00:33:34 Discussion of victim cause of death 

00:34:39 Talk about wounds 

00:37:10 Discussion about Dr. Michael Baden brought in for second opinion 

00:38:50 Brammer deposits $1,500 in his bank account day Ilene is reported missing 

00:39:46 Discussion about face missing due to animal life 

00:41:46 Brammer has truck crushed and shredded 

00:42:08 Brammer was found guilty of second-degree murder, abuse of a corpse, and second-degree theft. 

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In Battle Creek, Michigan, Chad Allen Reed is the owner of a property. He lives on the bottom floor and rents out the top floor. He complains to everyone about the couple renting his upstairs,  Joe Soule and Jaclyn Lepird are loud at night and Reed doesn't like it. When Joe and Jaclyn vanish, everyone is looking for them, except for Chad Allen Reed. He is too busy trying to hide what he has done. His property burns 5 times in 7 days but Chad Allen Reed is being haunted by the smell. Two bodies, wrapped in plastic, hidden in the back of a pickup truck. When nobody solves the mystery of what happened to Joe Soule and Jaclyn Lepird, Chad Allen Reed calls the tip line himself, and tells them what happened!

Join Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack  break down the story of the Murdering Landlord and find out what evidence is left behind when two people are murdered on grass in a yard. 

Transcript Highlights 

00:00:07 Joseph Scott Morgan shares a renting nightmare  

00:04:23 discussion of landlord complaining about tenant 

00:05:20 Joe talks about trauma and evidence left behind at the scene 

00:07:58 Landlord confronted tenants over noise  

00:10:37 Discussion of the matter of cutting and bludgeoning someone 

00:12:25 Talk about postmortem interval  

00:13:23 Chad Allen Read shoots Joe Soule, shoots Jaclyn Lepird in the back 

00:15:38 Discussion about Read beating Lepird with a pipe 

00:16:37 Joe explains “Bullet Wipe” 

00:18:32 Discussion about evidence left in yard 

00:19:42 Talk about 2 people missing 

00:21:51 Evidence left behind by 2 victims 

00:23:31 Explanation of how bodies are examined in morgue 

00:25:44 Discussion about perpetrators not putting distance between themselves and their victims 

00:27:49 Bodies wrapped in plastic create more evidence 

00:29:18 Talk about 5 fires in 7 days  

00:30:13 Chad Allen Read calls the tipline himself 

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Joseph Scott Morgan takes you on a trip to Louisiana, and a young couple, tied up, with kettlebells tied to their feet, being driven up a high bridge, and pushed out at the apex, not to die from falling 10 stories, but to drown after the fall.

Join Joe Scott Morgan and Dave Mack for a show that stretches from Louisiana to Atlanta, a recording studio, a Walmart,  a side hustle in prison, and great police work to bring to justice the evil that wants to be a star.

Transcript Highlights 

00:00:46 Talk about Gravity = the dominant force in our life. 

00:02:09 Talk about Gravity, leading up a bridge 

00:03:13Discussion about murder by drowning 

00:03:54 Talk about being In Louisiana. 

00:05:21 the death of Lakeitha and Kenneth Joseph. 

00:06:16 Couple missing three weeks 

00:07:14 Talk about searching for missing couple 

00:08:55 Discussion of levels of grief 

00:11:52 Joe shares knowledge of the geography of the area 

00:14:22 Talk about “prune” fingers as a child in pool 

00:15:02 The lake is brackish, salt and fresh 

00:17:14 Is it possible to determine how long a body has been in water? 

000:20:58 Kenneth borrows a van, becomes big clue 

00:24:37 Police work: Kettle Bells branded by golds gym, only at Walmart 

00:25:46 How long does it take for a body to come to surface 

00:28:42 Discussion about rope 

00:30:12 Talk about Lakeitha leg being broken 

00:31:31 Discussion of kettle bells 

00:35:19 Talk about bodies in water 

00:36:40 Borrowed van turns up in Atlanta 

00:37:44 Discussion about Rapper managed by ex-convict 

00:39:44 Prison Guard in relationship with prisoner 

00:41:56 Murdered for being a witness 

00:43:06 Talk about worst way to die 

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A family moves to the country to get away from the crime of the big city only to find that evil exists in small towns and big cities alike. A 17-year-old girl develops a close bond to a harmless older neighbor. But the harmless old man is really a wolf in sheeps clothing and when the 17-year-old goes missing the neighbor helps look as hard as anyone. As long as nobody comes to his house to look too close. For 173 days the girl is missing, her heartbroken parents don't realize she is only 100 feet away from their front door. Buried in a homemade box, just for her. 

Joseph Scott Morgan breaks down the case of the teen girl hidden away in a homemade coffin and how difficult it will be to get the evidence to determine what really caused her death. Dave Mack joins in on the search for facts, and Valerie Tindall.

Transcript 

00:01:02 Discussion of 173 days without knowing location of your child 

00:02:26 Valerie Tindall, 17, and missing 

00:03:29 Mother said Patrick Scott acted like jealous boyfriend 

00:04:21 Discussion of age difference 

00:06:55 Valerie Tindall is missing 

00:10:00 Talk about Forensic Anthropology 

00:11:28 Disturbed areas of soil in backyard  

00:12:30 17-year-old girl bonds with 59-year-old man, odd 

00:13:22 What does FBI mean to a case 

00:14:32 The neighbor Valerie has “bond” with charged with lying to police 

00:16:03 Discussion of providing false hope to lure out suspect 

00:17:24 Investigators wonder if someone is helping her stay gone 

00:18:29 Victim has been missing since June 

00:22:24 Bright Orange fingernail polish Valerie Tindall was wearing 

00:23:29 Taking down a structure, burning, why? 

00:27:17 Talk about the VHS tapes found in box 

00:29:11 Discussion of murder weapon, a belt 

00:30:56 Suspect claims he is the victim?  

00:32:29 Discussion about condition of the body  

00:33:39 Why did the suspect dig holes in his property? 

00:35:17 Talk about the story from the suspect does not make sense 

00:36:35 Some evidence might have been lost  

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Ezra Ralston, 29, moves in with his grandparents on their beautiful property on the water in the Pacific Northwest, and repays their love and kindness by coming up with a plan to create a commune on his grandparents property. The only thing he needs to do is kill his grandparents and steal their property to make his dreams come true.

Join Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack as they take an in-depth look at death, fire, and the lies of Ezra Ralston on this episode of Body Bags.

Transcript Highlights 

00:00:19 Joe Talks about finding save place for your family 

00:01:18 Grandparents welcome 29-year-old grandson 

00:02:15 Discussion about early 70s 

00:03:47 Talk about the murder of Grandparents 

00:04:46 Discussion of fire and explosion 

00:06:16 Talk about arson, murder, investigation 

00:09:02 Discussion about origin of fire in the house 

00:11:05 Joe shares insight into recurring nightmare  

00:13:09 Talk about finding the bodies of Joanna Gormley and Ted Ralston. 

00:17:40 Discussion about gasoline used in fire 

00:19:14 Joe explains assessing the bodies 

00:23:02 Explaining what happens working a fire scene 

00:24:54 Discussion of when to examine bodies 

00:26:36 Looking around a fire scene is very confusing 

00:27:47 Talk about the victims' wounds 

00:32:03 Talk about plan to kill victims in their sleep 

00:35:45 Ezra Ralston being encouraged by girlfriend 

00:37:04 Discussion of using bleach to get rid of evidence 

00:39:15 Fire creates more evidence 

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Oscar Pistorius became famous for not allowing a handicap to stand in his way of track and field success.

After becoming a Paralympic Champion, he fought his way through the courts to be allowed to compete in non-disabled competitions. In 2012, he competed in the Summer Olympics in London and became one of the most famous people in the world, earning the nickname "Blade Runner" for the prosthetic legs he uses to run.

Less than six months after the Olympic Games, Pistorius claims he hears a noise in the middle of the night and thinks someone is breaking in, but what happens next lands him in jail,  charged with murder!

Join Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack as they break down the case of Oscar Pistorius. Did he kill his girlfriend in cold blood or was it a horrible mistake?

Transcript Highlights:  

00:01:11 Oscar Pistorius getting out of prison 

00:03:11 Pistorius fought to compete in non-disabled competition 

00:04:02 Discussion of who Oscar Pistorius is and his fame at the time of this incident 

00:06:58 Discussion of legs being amputated at 11 months old 

00:10:56 How to figure out directionality of weapons that are fired 

00:12:40 Pistorius and Steenkamp had dated only 90 days 

00:13:45 Body Bags and Domestic Disputes 

00:14:52 Discussion of waking up, hearing something 

00:16:05 Pistorius claims he heard things, overcome with fear 

00:17:37 Talk about Pistorius and guns 

 00:19:15 What happens when victim is in bathroom?  

00:21:51 He claims that he shot her after he had put his legs on. 

00:22:06 Story told by Pistorius doesn’t match facts  

00:24:12 Discussion of victim being shot through the door 

00:25:57 Discussion of stomach contents of victim  

00:26:15 Time of morning, 3:19am 

00:26:41Said there were four quick shots.  

00:28:14 Did he retrieve his legs at this point in time and come back to? 

00:29:34 Talk about scene, towels, debris, trying to stop bleeding 

00:30:29 Discussion of the Blades giving him and advantage 

000:31:33 Pistorius remains on scene, in kitchen, should have been in back of squad car 

00:32:26 Three components in gunshot residue. We look for antimony, we look for barium and we look for lead. 

00:33:43 Talk about prosthetics and if he had them on  

00:34:38 Discussion about suspect is not in charge of investigation 

00:35:35 Pistorius claims he kept her airway open with his fingers 

00:36:35.Pistorius is scheduled to be released from custody in January of 2024

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Dylan Redwine is forced to spend Thanksgiving with his father in Colorado. He doesn't want to be there because he knows some things about his father, secret, disgusting things, and he just doesn't want to be around him. But due to his parent divorce he has to go. Dylan Redwine goes missing, his dad suggests a bear might have got him. It takes time, but in the end, Forensics will tell the entire story of what happened to Dylan Redwine.

Join Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack as they break down a story that took years to finish and includes blood, sex, knives, and bones. 

Time Code Highlights. 

00:01:40 Redwine Murder was one of the first Joseph Scott Morgan covered in media 

00:04:00 Dylan must go to his father’s house in Colorado for Thanksgiving  

00:05:08 Mark Redwine house burned down previously

00:07:03 Discussion of children of divorce, Dylan did not want to be with his father 

00:08:20 Talk about pictures Dylan and his brother saw on their dad’s computer

00:09:30 Joe talks the information he was given to cover story on network show

00:11:03 Pictures of Mark Redwine in lingerie, makeup, eating out of diaper 

00:13:09 Joe tells story of being embarrassed comparing it to how Mark Redwine was embarrassed his children found out about secret pictures 

00:15:00 Discussion about the boys confronting their father over his pictures 

00:16:50 Talk about Mark Redwine responding to Corey about the pictures

00:19:25 Joe talks about Mark Redwine being humiliated and angry 

00:20:45 Redwine claims he went to store, Dylan was gone when he got back

00:21:35 Discussion about Corey Redwine being several years older than Dylan 

00:22:45 Talk about forensics and how nothing is ever hidden 

00:24:04 Joe talks about a dog finding blood in the home

00:26:05 Blood from Dylan would have to have been from recent visit

00:30:04 Joe talks about a murder case without a body 

00:31:00 Both femurs of Dylan Redwine found 8 miles from Mark Redwine home 

00:32:43 Bones found on a road could have been drug by an animal

00:34:14 Determining whether the bones were separated by human using tools 

00:36:05 Talk about Mark Redwine mentioning something to a friend about blunt force trauma and they would need to find his head 

00:37:45 Dylan Redwine skull found 

00:39:00 No animals in the area that would drag remains up the mountain 

00:40:10 Talk about surface deposition 

00:41:05 Mark Redwine said Dylan may have been attacked by a bear.  

00:43:50 What the skull tells investigators. Took several months to identify 

00:45:12 Joe explains using sinus for identification 

00:46:45 Skull fractures show blunt force trauma. Two linear marks consistent with a knife blade found on skull. 

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Nohema Graber is a beloved Spanish teacher in the small town of Fairfield, Iowa. When she goes missing during her everyday after school walk in the park, the small town is worried. When her body is found in the park, hidden under a tarp, the town of less than 10,000 is shocked. Shock turns to disgust when police arrest two 16-year-old students for the murder after one of them writes on snapchat about the planning, execution, and disposal of evidence.

Join Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack as they break down the story of Nohema Graber, a beloved teacher who deserved a much better fate and the two 16-year-olds that broke the heart of a small town. 

Time Code Highlights. 

00:02:54 Nohema Graber goes missing during her regular walk in the park

00:03:06 Body of Nohema Graber found in park under a tarp, Two 16-year-old students arrested

00:05:19 Joseph Scott Morgan talks about first homicide he worked was a brother who beat his brother to death with a baseball bat  

00:07:11 discussion about what teachers are faced with every day 

00:08:47 Talk about how this case begins with a bad grade

00:10:11 Talk about two students feeling like they were owed something

00:11:44 Discussion of Timeline of events 

00:14:24 Talk about two friends decide to murder teacher 

00:15:20 Discussion of the plan the perpetrators had and that it wouldn't change the grad

00:16:22 Talk about the type of weapons teens might have access, baseball bat is weapon of opportunity the routine of victim

00:19:40 Discussion of Both perpetrators were tracking victim in park

00:21:10 The perpetrators discuss the plan on snapchat 

00:22:23  Discussion of Nohema Graber and people seeing Chaiden Miller arguing with her about his grade

00:24:03  Discussion of Nohema Graber van being driven away from park by two males and how perpetrators hide her body

00:25:11 Joseph Scott Morgan points out how everything used in a crime can be traced

00:26:27  Discussion of perpetrators taking the bloody bat, bloody clothes, back home. Friend shows snapchat messages to law enforcement

00:28:08 Discussion of damage bat can do to a body

00:30:44 Description of the marks the bat will make with contact

00:34:11 Talk about is it possible to determine who swung the bat

00:35:45  Discussion about Jeremy Goodale sentenced to life with possible parole after 25 years, Chaiden Miller sentenced to life with possible parole after 35 years

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November 22, 1963: John F. Kennedy, the 35th President of the United States, was shot and killed during a presidential motorcade in Dallas, Texas.

The President is taken to Parkland Memorial Hospital.  By law, Dallas County Coroner Dr. Earl Rose had jurisdiction over the case and should have performed the autopsy. However, against Dr. Earl Rose's protestations, the body of President Kennedy was wrapped in a sheet, placed in a casket with a broken handle, and flown over 1,300 miles away to Washington DC, where 2 naval doctors, who had never conducted a forensic autopsy performed the autopsy on John F. Kennedy. 

Join Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack as they take a close look at the autopsy that was so bad, 60years later questions are still being asked. 

Time Code Highlights

00:01:21 Discussion about the ripple effect of the assassination of JFk

00:04:31 Discussion of the moments following the shooting of JFK in Dealey Plaza

00:06:02 Talk about how autopsy "Standard Procedures" were not followed 

00:06:51 Texas state law and jurisdiction over investigation and autopsy

00:07:58 Board Certified Forensic Pathologist Doctor Earl Rose was chief medical examiner for Dallas, Texas at the time and was at Parkland Memorial Hospital

00:09:22 Discussion JFK body taken from Dallas to Washington DC for autopsy

00:10:59 Talk about Secret Service preparing for President trips.

00:11:36 Discussion of JFK physical condition after being shot.

00:12:52 Talk about injuries to JFK, at least 2 gunshot wounds. 

00:13:31 Discussion of tracheotomy that was performed to establish an airway

00:15:04 Discussion of Dr. Earl Rose and how his experience was dismissed

00:16:23 Dr. Earl Rose KNEW he was looking at a Murder Investigation.

00:17:47 Discussion Dallas County had jurisdiction over the body.

00:19:03 Talk about autopsy of JFK should have taken place in Dallas

00:20:08 Talk about previous Presidential assassination, Lincoln, Garfield, and McKinley and their autopsies.

00:22:10 Discussion of Dr. Earl Rose did the autopsy for Oswald, Officer Tippit, and Jack Ruby.

00:23:36  Discussion of JFK body being taken to Washington DC 

00:25:16 Comparing Bethesda Naval Hospital to Walter Reed Hospital 

00:26:04 Discussion about doctors chosen to perform JFK autopsy

00:28:42 Talk about why doctors turned bullet wound into tracheostomy

00:29:55  Presidents body wrapped in sheets. Head wrapped in gauze

00:31:09 Discussion of JFK clothing, tie changed the trajectory of round.

00:32:58  Discussion about clothing worn during the assassination

00:33:44 Talk about "magic bullet" going through JFK and Governor Connally, 

00:35:08 Discussion Secret Service agents washed interior of Presidential limo. 

00:36:03 Talk about crime scenes - bone fragments found and turned in later

00:37:02 Description of President's head, skull came apart in doctors hands.

00:38:04 Discussion of Assessment

00:40:02 Talk about x-rays that were done on body

00:41:58  Description of the Bethesda autopsy suite 

00:43:51 Ballistics expert Dr. Pierre Fink, forensic pathologist, came to Bethesda 

00:44:53  JFK brain was removed before Dr. Fink arrived

00:46:05 Description of "Brain Loafing".

00:47:22 The autopsy of JFK was not a complete autopsy

00:49:21 Discussion of "family wishes" as it applies to the murder of the president.

00:50:48 Compare autopsy of John F. Kennedy and Robert F Kennedy

00:52:36 Discussion about other pathologists available to do autopsy on JFK

00:55:09 No way to know if other injuries suffered by JFK could have been lethal

00:56:04 Commentary - no excuse for what happened with autopsy of JFK

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Hanna Rhoden,15, gives birth to a daughter.  2-years later, Rhoden and the baby's father, Jake Wagner, fight over custody.    A custody battle begins and the Wagner family pressures Hanna to give up her daughter.  The Wagners hack Hanna Rhoden's Facebook account and read a private message in which Hanna vows she will not give up the child, quote "they (the Wagners) will have to kill me first."   That is exactly what  happens. 

The Wagner family decide to not only kill Hanna Rhoden, but the rest of her family, anyone who might stand in the way of the Wagner family gaining custody of the little girl. The Wagner family plan is to take out the Rhoden family in one night, four locations, eight murders.

Join Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack as they dig deep into the Pike County Murders. Joseph Scott Morgan gives a firsthand account of the crime scenes and the forensic evidence left behind.

Time code highlights:

00:00:02  Joseph Scott Morgan asked to take part as a forensic expert in a complex case 

00:02:12 Discussion about the investigation of the Pike County Murders

00:02:37 Description:  One night. Four Scenes. Eight Murders

00:03:09 Description of two families that have been friends a long time

00:03:16  Discussion about Hanna Rhoden becomes pregnant with Jake Wagner's baby when she is 15-years-old. Hanna Rhoden breaks up with Jake Wagner

00:04:01 The Wagner's tried to force Hanna Roden to sign papers to turn custody of Sophia over to Jake.

00:04:22 Discussion of Wagner family plan to kill Hanna Rhoden to get custody

00:05:01 Discussion of the first person to be murdered and location of murder scene

00:06:50 Discussion of shots fired through wall first, Chris Rhoden was shot 9 times

00:07:36 Discussion of second victim, Gary Rhoden, visiting from Kentucky

00:10:06 Talk about the injuries to Chris Rhoden's arm

00:11:01  Description of head shots to both Chris Rhoden and Gary Rhoden

00:12:24 Talk of how Wagner Sr said "I just killed my best friend"

00:16:25 The Wagner's didn't know Gary Rhoden would be at the scene

00:17:30  Discussion of the Wagner's make silencers for their weapons

00:19:38  Joseph Scott Morgan talks about being at the site and what it looked like, 

00:21:56  The Wagner's arrived at Chris Rhoden's house barefoot but put on shoes inside the house.

00:22:44  Investigator researched shoe print found in Rhoden trailer and found a match

00:24:45 The forensic shoe print match the best evidence used to convict

00:25:34  Description of second murder scene. Frankie Rhoden, Hannah Gilley, and two small children.  

00:25:26 Older child came to door (the next morning) and said  "daddy's playing zombie"

00:27:10  Discussion of Hannah Gilley was shot 5 times in the head

00:30:25  Discussion of distance from Frankie Rhoden's house to Dana Rhoden home

00:32:37  Dana Rhoden's home was unlocked, Dana Rhoden's face was illuminated by her phone, made eye contact with Jake Wagner and he shot and killed Dana Rhoden

00:33:40  Discussion of Hanna May Rhoden being the reason for the murders

00:34:00  Discussion of Hanna Rhoden had baby 4 days earlier

00:34:15 The child Hanna Rhoden had with Jake Wagner was with the Wagner family at the time of the murders

00:34:35  Discussion of Jake Wagner placing baby next to body of Hanna May Rhoden so the baby could feed off the dead mother

00:36:01 Discussion of Hanna Rhoden and Hannah Gilley both shot 5 times in the head

00:36:45 Chris Rhoden jr, 16, shot dead in bed

00:37:45 Discussion of Kenneth Rhoden living in travel trailer 7 miles from the other scenes, shot once in head.

00:41:22 Discussion of Jake Wagner and his brother going to great lengths to get rid of weapons

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Over the last few years, more and more death scenes involve dismemberment.

An "obsessed" true crime fan in South Korea thinks she can pull off the perfect murder, so how did Jung Yoo-Jung get caught? Taylor Schabusiness tells police she doesn't remember strangling her boyfriend, but it felt good. She leaves his severed head in a bucket for his mother to find.

And in Tennessee, prosecutors say Joel Guy Jr created a "diabolical stew of human remains" with his mother's head when he finds out his parents are cutting him off.

Joseph Scott Morgan breaks down the forensics and Dave Mack keeps the stories moving in this fast-paced edition of Body Bags with Joseph Scott Morgan in front of a live audience at CrimeCon 2023 in Orlando, Florida

Time Code Highlights. 

00:02:50 South Korean Woman Jung Yoo-Jung is said to be an obsessed crime fan

00:03:17 Discussion of how 23-year-old woman pretends to be a 14-year-old school girl

00:04:19 Jung Yoo-jung wants to commit a homicide and dismember the victim to try and get away with murder.. 

00:05:33  Her plan is to kill, dismember, and dispose of the victim.  

00:06:27 Talks about the tools needed to do the job she wants to do

00:10:19 What would she used to clean up the area?

00:12:00 Talk about Gilgo and Rex Heuermann

00:12:44 Talking about the getaway and getting rid of the remains

00:12:57 To commit the perfect crime she uses a cab as a getaway car, leads to her capture

00:14:39 Joseph Scott Morgan tells story of transporting a head as a young man working in New Orleans with the coroner.

00:15:52  Under no circumstances are you to allow this bot this head out of your sight. 

00:16:23 Had to use a cooler with ice to transport the head 

00:18:40 Discussion about Taylor Schabusiness case.

00:19:14 The mother of the victim finds his head in bucket

00:20:20 Discussion of the relationship between suspect and victim

00:21:56 Schabusiness told police she didn't remember strangling him, but she remembered liking it. 

00:23:16 She told police, you found this part of him, good luck finding the rest

00:25:48  Discussion about the types of knives needed to do what was done to the victim

00:27:46 Talk about the forensics of different types of blades

00:30:47 Joe Scott Morgan talks about the time it takes to dismember a body

00:32:09 Joel Guy Jr, created a game plan for what he was going to do to his parents

00:32:23 Discussion about Joel Guy Jr and why he killed his parents

00:34:18 Joel Guy Jr stabbed his parents to death, then cut them up.

00:35:04 Talk about police interrupted Joel Guy Jr and found his "list" of things to do

00:39:42 Discussion of the medical examiner at the trial 

00:40:09 Talk about anti-mortem and post-mortem 

00:43:11 Joseph Scott Morgan explains the way a body can be disarticulated