Cinematographers on the Loose Podcast

This time we are trying a new format! In this virtual roundtable, two operators and two cinematographers discuss the role of the operator and the collaboration between operators, cinematographers and directors. Our guests are operators Ilana Garrard ACO, Assoc BSC and Austin J Philips Assoc ACO and cinematographers Diana Olifirova and Aaron Adrian Rogers. 

More about our guests:

Ilana Garrard is an experienced operator working primarily as A camera / steadicam in features as well as TV. She is a frequent collaborator with Rina Yang BSC and Chris Ross BSC. 

http://www.ilanagarrard.com/

https://www.imdb.com/name/nm6047882/

 

Austin J Philips is an operator working primarily as B camera / steadicam in TV and features. Recent credits include Malpractice Season 2 with fellow episode guest DP Aaron Adrian Rogers.

https://www.austinsteadi.com/

 

Aaron Adrian Rogers started off operating and doing second unit on such shows as Avenue 5, House of the Dragon and The Gentlemen and he’s now a first unit DP. Check out his episode (Ep42) if you want to hear more about his journey through 2nd unit.

https://www.aaronrogersdop.com/

https://www.imdb.com/name/nm5507980/

 

Selected as part of BAFTA Breakthrough 2022, Diana Olifirova is a cinematographer and early guest of the podcast (Ep4!). Her TV drama credits include Bridgerton, Heartstopper and We are Lady Parts. 

https://www.dianaolifirova.com/

https://www.imdb.com/name/nm6260389/

 

Get in touch to let us know if you liked this new format and whether you want to hear more of these virtual roundtables!

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Adam Lyons is a Leeds-based cinematographer. His worked his way up in TV Drama from B camera to second unit to additional cinematography before shooting as main DP on Endeavour, DI Ray and Grace. We talk about his start in Leeds to ending up in LA for the Oscars to his first experience on a TV Drama set. We go on to discuss Adam's ethos, war stories from set and much more!

Adam's website: https://www.adamlyonsdop.com

Adam's IMDB: https://www.imdb.com/name/nm4139799/

Tiger Sheds Video: https://vimeo.com/58536343

SHOK - Oscar nominated short – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WipuLTbQk1M

Bouncing off a hangar: https://www.instagram.com/p/CZ75ZDgqHNh/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link&igsh=MzRlODBiNWFlZA%3D%3D

Using the sky as Ambience: https://www.instagram.com/p/CtPkUQSqNNT/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link&igsh=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==

HAMDARDI - Short Film https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zEqyTJxXu6A

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This is a recording of COTL's first Live Q&A format, held over zoom in May 2024. Cinematographers Tasha Duursma and Charlie Knight answer listener questions focused on practical topics for aspiring and beginning DOPs and those stepping up or wanting to step up from crew roles. Tasha and Charlie are both very talented and prolific cinematographers making waves in the London short form scene.

Check out their work below:

 

TASHA:

https://www.natashaduursma.co.uk

https://www.instagram.com/tasha_duursma/?hl=en

 

CHARLIE:

https://www.charlieknightdop.com

https://www.instagram.com/charlie_knight_/?hl=en

 

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James Rhodes is a London-based DP, BIFA nominated for his debut feature ‘Femme’. We discuss the film as well as his experience shooting massive live music shows, including a detailed look at Disney’s ‘Elton John Live: Farewell From Dodger Stadium’. We also chat about cinematography books and Cinematographers’ Archive, an Instagram account co-created by James, curating and showcasing books from cinematographers’ bookshelves.

 

Things discussed in the episode:

Cinematographers archive: https://www.instagram.com/cinematographersarchive/?hl=en

Yorgos Lanthimos: Dear God, The Parthenon is Still Broken: https://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=Dear+God%2C+the+Parthenon+Is+Still+Broken&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8

Bike Riders: https://www.abebooks.com/book-search/title/the-bikeriders/author/danny-lyon/first-edition/

JoJo Whilden – Fallout Stills:  https://www.instagram.com/jojowhilden/?hl=en

“Daily Stoic” Podcast: https://open.spotify.com/show/7fY99FB3bNyn7nEdXCoBeB

Conversations with cinematographers: https://books.google.co.uk/books/about/Conversations_with_Cinematographers.html?id=uA8DdKZSD0YC

Schaefer and Salvato: Masters of Light: https://www.abebooks.co.uk/9780520051454/Masters-Light-Conversations-Contemporary-Cinematographers-0520051459/plp

Every frame a Rembrandt: https://www.abebooks.co.uk/9780240803999/Frame-Rembrandt-Art-Practice-Cinematography-024080399X/plp

A Man with a Camera: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Man-Camera-Almendros-Nestor/dp/0374201722

Ansel Adams books: https://quinto-bookshop.co.uk/product/the-ansel-adams-photography-series-the-camera-the-negative-the-print/

Kaleo - Live from the colosseum https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IfzGg4aPiqM

Gavin James Live at Abbey Road: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xuDGIjEQpVY

Femme: https://www.netflix.com/watch/81744540

Femme – BSC Article: https://britishcinematographer.co.uk/james-rhodes-femme/

Elton John Live: Farewell from Dodger Stadium: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XIT1u0DxuRs

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Anna Patarakina is a London-based DP. Member of the Swedish Society of Cinematographers (FSF) and Illuminatrix, she was born in Russia and ended up in the UK via Sweden. She has extensive long form experience. In this wide ranging conversation, we cover diplomacy, gratitude, difficult conversations, art, her script visualisation process with the director, and so much more!

 

Jobs discussed:

 

How to Stop a Wedding - https://www.patarakina.com/howtostopawedding

Balkan Noir - https://www.patarakina.com/balkannoir

Zoo - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IXoYKaIAKlE

The One - https://www.patarakina.com/theone

Breaking surface - https://www.patarakina.com/breakingsurface

The tower - https://www.patarakina.com/thetower

The Midwich Cuckoos - https://www.patarakina.com/midwich

The Lesson - https://www.patarakina.com/thelesson

Insomnia - https://www.patarakina.com/insomnia

 

Other things:

Snoop Dogg Boss’ Life - https://open.spotify.com/track/4UprL40OVADveANAtCNrIa?si=aGQNSgJKSxejGQAR54BYmA

Don’t shoot the dog - https://www.wob.com/en-gb/books/karen-pryor/don-t-shoot-the-dog/9781860542381?gad_source=1&gclid=Cj0KCQjw3tCyBhDBARIsAEY0XNmtushzqTLvsIqjGAZA2ruFQnwFMx7ml-96lFLpKd1nQ_7kswrLeiwaAldVEALw_wcB#GOR002029886

 

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Aaron Adrian Rogers is a UK-based cinematographer. In this episode, we take a deep dive into his time as a C cam op and 2nd unit DP on HBO’s Avenue 5 and House of the Dragon and Netflix’s The Gentlemen. We discuss war stories, lessons learnt, working with operators, and lots more! We also discuss Aaron’s youth work and how he juggles DP work and fatherhood. 

Aaron’s site: https://www.aaronrogersdop.com/

 

Work discussed:

Short Film POMMEL: https://vimeo.com/395053312

Avenue 5: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w8Zr3f-_Ft8

House of the Dragon: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fNwwt25mheo

The Gentlemen: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gnpfKsqeMrM

 

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Adam Barnett is a London-based DP. A graduate of the NFTS, he is prolific in the short form world and recently lensed an episode of Netflix’s ‘Champion’. We discuss Adam’s background, the nature of cinematography at the boundary of art and commerce, stories from filming ‘Champion’ in Jamaica, and so much more!

Some of the things we discuss in the ep:

Lucy Blue Music video: http://www.adambarnettdop.com/lucy-blue-taxi-driver

Champion: Netflix / iplayer https://www.netflix.com/title/81478663

Short Film 'They Found Her in a Field': http://www.adambarnettdop.com/tfhia

Adam's site: http://www.adambarnettdop.com

Adam's Insta: https://www.instagram.com/adambarnettdop/

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Craig Dean Devine is a UK-based Cinematographer working primarily in TV drama and features. In this honest and wide-ranging conversation, we discuss everything from mental health and Craig’s podcast to how Warhammer taught him to light; from dealing with stepping onto bigger projects and how to work with crew to shooting in Tanzania and so much more!

Here's some of the things we discuss during the ep:

Craig’s “Butter Wouldn’t Melt” Podcast: https://open.spotify.com/show/0dFcjJwozMV5O97qq1tpAE?si=273c18177222430c

School Spirits: https://www.craigdeandevine.com/school-spirits

American Horror Stories: https://www.craigdeandevine.com/three-brothers-2

Derry Girls: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ddA0Vh5v0LM

Pili: https://www.craigdeandevine.com/pili

Short Film “The Entertainer”: https://www.craigdeandevine.com/the-entertainer

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Kate Arizmendi is a New York-based cinematographer. Her work includes Succession S4, feature films Monica, National Anthem and Swallow, and 2nd Unit work on Dune, shot by Greg Fraiser, and Cyrano, shot by Seamus McGarvey.

Kate’s website: https://www.katelinarizmendi.com

Kate's IG: https://www.instagram.com/katearizmendi/?hl=en

Projects discussed during the episode:

MONICA: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6b8FpmXvcLM

Bvlgari: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6j41MLvMyrE&t=2s

SWALLOW: https://www.katelinarizmendi.com/swallow

National anthem: https://www.katelinarizmendi.com/national-anthem

Succession S4: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t3D3ewle7XY

Dune: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n9xhJrPXop4

Sons of my country: https://vimeo.com/714022470

Robby muller polaroid book: https://www.wolf-books.com/products/robby-muller-polaroid-interior-exterior

Vincent Haycock music video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L12ORqw6R7A

Cyrano: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5e8apSFDXsQ

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Ben Saffer is a London-based cinematographer. We chat about his first feature, his prep process, his use of cine tracer and unreal engine for previs and his time as a DIT.

Links to things we discuss in the show:

A kind of kidnapping (Feature Film): https://www.bensaffer.com/a-kind-of-kidnapping

No time to die – Matera sequence: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9iIO3qG1E_0

Chris Courbald - Team Deakins: https://open.spotify.com/episode/0QXdCpTwOyBnER1ABNOwSz?si=ce5a6e507f4f40ef

Mark Patton BSC: https://www.markpatten.tv

Ben’s Instagram – Featuring “Unreal vs Final shot”: https://www.instagram.com/bensaffer/?hl=en

CineTracer: https://www.cinetracer.com

Polycam: https://poly.cam

Andrew Rowlands: https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0746756/

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In this episode, we talk to Callum Just, founder of UK-based Digital Orchard.

Callum was one of the first DITs in the UK film industry and founded Digital Orchard 13 years ago to provide highly trained technicians and comprehensive workflow solutions for cinematographers. He has grown the company to deliver services on digital, film and hybrid shoots from on-set technicians and dailies through to scanning and post. 

Callum was the first DIT to join the GBCT in 2011. He worked on both Murder On The Orient Express and Death on the Nile, both shot on 65mm. Alongside their core business, Digital Orchard are dedicated to making positive change in the industry to tackle inequality through their Foundation department. 

Anyone interested in mentoring can contact the Digital Orchard Foundation at [email protected]

Callum's IMBD: https://www.imdb.com/name/nm2758462/?ref_=ext_shr_lnk

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Alice Seabright is a writer and director. She directed eps 4 and 5 of Sex Education S2 before going on to create and show run the BBC1 / Amazon Studios series Chloe.   

In this wide ranging and honest conversation, we cover everything from philosophy and mindset to interpersonal relationships on set, developing a visual language for a show, the nitty gritty of where a director should stand and how directors, DPs and operators work together, and the process of pitching, writing and setting up your own show as a showrunner.

 

Alice’s work:

PREGNANT PAUSE – Short film https://vimeo.com/243605444

SEX EDUCATION - https://www.netflix.com/title/80197526

CHLOE - https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episodes/p0b69pc5/chloe

 

Things discussed during the ep:

Walter Murch Book – Behind the Seen https://www.abebooks.co.uk/9780735714267/Behind-Seen-Walter-Murch-Edited-0735714266/plp

Rick Rubin Book - https://www.waterstones.com/book/the-creative-act/rick-rubin//9781838858636?awaid=3787&referrer=awin&gclid=Cj0KCQjwqs6lBhCxARIsAG8YcDgOYSNQ4CRS-dnWt1Ri8Gfx1SpCWyxy3uWqXDUvYx4PAm1veNo7a8YaAil-EALw_wcB

Directors take podcast - https://open.spotify.com/episode/6SxfFVcpmih71NwbMvOON4?si=9cd95ecd2a1c46df

Chloé Zhao - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chloé_Zhao

I know this much is true - https://www.hbo.com/i-know-this-much-is-true

Catherine Goldschmidt - https://www.instagram.com/cgdop

Jamie Cairney - https://www.instagram.com/jamiecairneydop/

Ilana Garrard - https://www.instagram.com/ilanagarrard/

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This episode is sponsored by Rexy Wheels. 

Rexy Wheels are cinematic handwheels purpose built for gaming. Control the X/Y axis on a computer just like a camera operator controls pan and tilt with wheels on set. This allows you to hone your wheel skills while having fun gaming at home!

Check them out on https://www.rexygaming.com/

Reach out to Rexy on instagram with any questions you might have! https://www.instagram.com/rexywheels/

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George Rumsey is a below-the-line agent at Independent Talent Group. He rose to prominence in the UK short form world as the Head of Commercials at Panavision before joining Indepedent Talent in November 2021. 

We chat to George about his journey through the industry before diving into the world of the agent - what does it mean to represent directors of photography, how do agents and DPs work together, and how can young cinematographers approach the question of how and at what point of their career to get an agent?

BSC Show 2023 Panel - TV Drama in practice: https://vimeo.com/806761925

Lots of DPs are mentioned in this episode, but the ones mentioned by first name only are: Olan Collardy, Rick Joaquim, Eben Bolter BSC - all three of whom also happen to be past guests on our podcast!

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We sit down for a frank, honest and very entertaining chat with director KC Locke (@kc.locke). We talk music videos, the Manchester scene, and KC’s journey from one-man band to building his production company, Swords & Eagles (@swordsandeagles), who today are prolific creators of some of the most innovative music videos in the UK. 

Since recording this episode last year, KC has signed with a US rep, Swords & Eagles are going from strength to strength, and their new showreel has launched and you can see it here: https://www.swordsandeagles.com/

 

Here are some of the people discussed in the episode:

 

Swords & Eagles family:

Jenny O’Sullivan (@jennyosullivan4)

Lewis N (@_lewisnicholson)

Jamil Shaukat (@friendlydictator)

Danny Usman (@therealuzzey)

 

Agent Marisa Garner: https://www.marisagarnerassociates.com

Action99 Cars (@action99cars)

Phil Arntz (@philarntz)

Stefan Yap (@stefanyapdop)

G6 Moco (@g6moco)

 

Jobs discussed:

 

Take me back to London https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XJQy_R9CYR4

Lola Young with motion control https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wVbs5--NrJg

Warzone https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_cd249MDLzQ

Ruroc https://kclocke.com/commercial/2020/7/18/kd23f6ymdb7uirk27f35ydrcbot1lr

 https://kclocke.com/commercial/2021/7/28/mhnjj06j4bus5p4ij4yyeluzi7zpqn

Respect the come up https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j6-2l1o_6Iw

Aitch learning curve https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MpuIKVn5rsU 

Tom Greenan https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pldBRhJjOKE

Pip millet ride with me https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mdadFmZWl5I

Welcome to the hood https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PIRr1SD_TL0Meeks - Can’t Stop

Won’t Stop https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dcG8c_KxeJ4

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Rick Joaquim SASC is a DP based in London working in Narrative, Commercials and Music Videos. His work has been included in the ARRI Camera Showreel 2019, as Official Selection for Sundance Film Festival 2021 and Cannes Film Festival 2022 and and most recently he won "Best Achievement in Cinematography in a Documentary " at the South African Film & Television Awards 2022 (SAFTA's).

We discuss Rick’s early career in South Africa and his decision to move to London. We go into agents, pre production workflow, the interview process, lenses, filtration, and much more!

Here’s links to some of the things we cover in the podcast:

Bassam Tariq Podcast https://open.spotify.com/episode/1Kbn3Ars7i1xktzGHN45Fy?si=bGDRjHPtRIWwsulN6i7hkw&nd=1

“Little Big Mouth” Feature https://vimeo.com/638559098

“Can They See Us” Feature https://vimeo.com/760436522

Bronze Glimmerglass https://vimeo.com/162425508

Tommi’s recent job with Lomo Roundfronts https://thomasterminet.com/portfolio/textile-exchange-materials-matter

Landscapers https://britishcinematographer.co.uk/erik-wilson-bsc-landscapers/

Jess Hall ASC http://www.jesshalldop.com

Scriptation https://scriptation.com

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A wonderfully free and inspirational conversation with Danish cinematographer Kasper Tuxen, who has recently been thrust into the limelight after his incredible work on Joaquim Trier’s “The Worst Person in the World”. 

Here are some of the jobs we discuss in the ep: 

 

The worst person in the world https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=55M5ZgAqbWo

 

Sea of trees https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQvC9V1eLsE

 

Riders of justice https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j9Okx5teGBQ

 

Director Martin de Thurah https://vimeo.com/martindethurah

https://www.instagram.com/martindethurah/?hl=en

 

Woodkid - Goliath https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5tEfYvY3bAg

 

James Blake - Limit to your Love https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oOT2-OTebx0

 

Film 1 https://vimeo.com/20079854

 

Winamax commercial https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tfncwlFhB_k

 

Kasper's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/kaspertuxen/?hl=en

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Hunter Daly is a London based cinematographer. We cover his journey from law student to gaffer to successful short form DP, before going on to discuss Hunter’s recent thoughts around the morality of shooting commercials, the ethics of celluloid, the environmental impact of the filmmaking process, and his decision to go back to university to study environmental politics. Ultimately we ask whether filmmaking is really enough for those who want to enact social change.  Feel free to email hunter on [email protected] if you would like to chat to him about some of the issues raised in the episode.

Here are links to some of the jobs discussed on the show:

 

Infiniti w/ Kit Harrington

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FLLo3rALIIQ

 

The Cocktail Waitress

https://vimeo.com/298297068

 

Missguided 

https://vimeo.com/208711479

 

Jo Malone 

https://vimeo.com/343384452

 

Bally Sneakers

https://vimeo.com/258103852

 

Ralph Lauren

https://vimeo.com/406794956

 

Prince Waly (Valentin Petit)

https://vimeo.com/299322817

 

Be sure to checkout this BTS breakdown of Hunter’s Tullamore Dew whiskey spot:

https://vimeo.com/515017369

https://vimeo.com/520331366

 

Here is hunter discussing the Key Skills of a DP:

https://vimeo.com/518801267

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Jon Pugh is a visual effects artist, currently TechAnim lead at MPC Episodic London. He has a range of experience in different departments including comp, creature FX and crowd. His credits include The Crown, Assassin’s Creed, The Nutcracker and the Four Realms, and Detective Pikachu.

We chat with Jon about his journey within the VFX world and what his job currently entails, and learn more about the different departments in the VFX universe. We discuss tips for DPs working with visual effects, and hint at some of the innovations that may change the landscape in the future.

Here is a link to Jon’s site, where you can find his showreel and more:

http://jonpughvfx.com

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In this solo episode, Tommi and Lorenzo discuss burnout culture, recent projects, reflective metering and more, as well as taking listener questions.

Link to Tommi’s rear projection job:

https://vimeo.com/582557836

BTS: https://www.instagram.com/p/CSjg7rNihR_/?utm_medium=share_sheet

And Lorenzo’s Rudimental video:

https://vimeo.com/577366495

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Jonny Pickup is a photojournalist, documentary photographer and documentary filmmaker. His assignments have taken him all over the world, and he is currently a freelancer working with Getty. 

In this episode we talk about Jonny's journey and his process. We hear about some of his assignments and the crazy war stories that go along with them, and most importantly, we hear about following your passion, believing in yourself and staying focused on the story. 

Make sure to look at Jonny's website and follow along as we chat about his work:

https://jonnypickup.com

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