Join Ben and George every week as they delve deep into discussions about drums, drumming and drummers. They chat about everything from first kits to worst gigs, drumming tips to drum sticks and everything in between. Welcome to the disarray of two mates passing the time, whilst trying to stay in time.
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Hope you all had a great Christmas! It’s Boxing Day so time to finish off those chocolates and join us for an Xmas treat. Traffic and illness thwarted our attempt at a ‘traditional’ Xmas special but we were very grateful for the legend that is Lennon Taylor to step in and chat with us. Lennon and George can often be found on stage together at weddings with Wildwood Sky. After gifting Lennon with a ‘thigh of bread’ we chat about gig anxiety, standards and expectations and switching from solo to band. We also find out how he got the name for his song Gatorbone and Santa Whyntmas has some presents in his sack. Enjoy!
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Although Christmas is just round the corner we’re not particularly in a Chrismassy mood but this doesn’t deter us from chatting about parsnips, traditions and marvelling at his large but somewhat under-decorated tree. George also gives us the low down on his new job at a bakery and stealing a notebook from an Xmas party gig. Enjoy!
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This week we are finally joined by Ben Alldred from D’Addario; parent company of EVANS Drumheads. Having met Ben at Graham Russell Drums a few weeks ago when he helped skin and tune the ‘Florida Acrolite’ we wanted to quiz Ben on all things skins and tuning. Ben imparts his extensive knowledge on how important good heads are on a kit, how to choose the right head, designs and innovations and what all the different names and letters mean. Ben also uses his role as Percussion Product Specialist to go around to schools, colleges and retail partners to help people in person reskin and tune their drums. We also get some great tips on snare wires and tuning. Enjoy!
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This week we are joined across the pond by Dan Grabski; owner of Daytona Beach Drum Center! Ben met Dan at his shop on holiday in Florida and left with a Ludwig Acrolite. We chat about Hurricane Milton’s impact on Dan and his store, why he moved to Daytona Beach and decided to open a drum shop and his decisions around which brands to stock. We also delve into the pro gigging scene in the area and how this compares to the UK. Enjoy!
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We’ve had to reschedule our chat with Ben Alldred so it’s just us this week I’m afraid. However, pop your disappointment to one side and join us as we talk about winter gigs, Dean’s lovely hair and George’s surprise leg injury that meant he had to dep out a gig last minute. We also discuss becoming human tamagotchis, Instagram addiction, George’s trial shift at GAK and Ben’s trip to the Crocs shop. Enjoy!
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After a quick chat about the Royal Family we talk about Ben’s gig up in Norfolk and the highs and lows of our football careers. George updates us on his paradiddles, Ben’s seen some interesting car stickers and finds out what happened to the school psycho. Also send us your questions to ask Ben Alldred from Evans who will be on the show next week. Enjoy!
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We have a catch up about our weekend’s gigs where Ben had an unusual stage invader and George was surprised at what song got the crowd going. But before we set off for our gigs Ben went to the Graham Russell Drums Birthday Bash to get his new snare skinned and tuned by another Ben from Evans and George popped round to the new house to grab a choc ice from the outside fridge. We also learn what EMAD and GMAD stand for. Enjoy!
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As we settle into our new houses our green fingers have been rummaging round to see what’s what. George had a surprise housemate living in his shed and Ben found some rather interesting items in his new garage. We also chat about band myths, tip runs, the Graham Russell Drums Birthday Bash, learning some My Chemical Romance and Ben has an apology to make. Enjoy!
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This week we start off with some correspondence before heading into more tales of Ben’s holiday including trying out the Zildjian Alchem-E at Guitar Centre and picking a new snare from Dan at Daytona Beach Drum Centre. Ben also went to see Enter Shikari and You Me At Six in Orlando, had an eventful ride on Space Mountain and got asked one very important question. Enjoy!
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Ben’s back from his holiday! We chat about the few days before departure which included a gig in Wales and the small task of moving house with 5 days notice. After a busy and stressful week it was time to head to Florida and relax, that was until Hurricane Milton, the fifth most intense Atlantic hurricane ever, decided to join the party. Enjoy!
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While Ben's still away in Florida we pre-recorded some chat filled with golden nuggets such as Dyson headphones, cash tips at gigs, the UK Drum Show and popping your crisps in the fridge. We also take a look at the new line of Roland kits and do our best Jools Holland impressions. Enjoy!
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Hallo! On this week’s episode we find out all about George’s recent gig in Switzerland; strict passport control, being taken to a cabin in the woods and apple sauce with pasta. WHAT?! Find out what George makes of the Swiss tax system and why he would never live there, what lessons he learnt about gigging abroad and the horror gig he missed on the Isle of Wight. Genießen!
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On this week’s show we’re chatting about a man who has no email address, posting USB sticks instead of file sharing and George gave a man from DIY SOS some van SOS. We also catch up on our recent gigs with George trekking to Cambridge and central London and Ben making his HYPR debut. Enjoy!
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This week we are joined by the one and only Gabi King! She’s off to Liverpool to do a masterclass at the UK Drum Show this weekend but before she sets off she kindly joined us for a natter. Having been the drummer for Declan McKenna for nearly 8 years she now finds herself touring the world as the percussionist for The 1975. We chat about those years with Declan, making the switch to percussion plus teaching, delivering pizza and what she really thinks of grades. Plenty of great stuff in this episode so get listening! Enjoy!
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We were up bright and early for this week’s episode (well, early for Ben). George had a busy week gigging; his cajón took centre stage at a corporate event, he nearly got in a fight loading out of a pub and his dream trip to Beaconsfield and Oxford didn’t go to plan. Meanwhile Ben went up to London to look at Batman stuff, witnessed a man mistake a suit carrier for a hi hat and had another bad hogroast. Enjoy!
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After some internet issues in Brighton we finally got down to business. On this week’s episode we chat about the gig we did together in Weston-super-Mare where we got to meet the ‘locals’ and lots of lovely farm animals. Ben also had a long drive to London the previous day and George brought his big boy Tama kit out of retirement. We also discuss the new Zildjian headphones, a delicious new Tama finish and Ben’s new Dyson. Enjoy!
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Packed lunches and chocolate bars start us off this week before moving on to George’s upcoming gig in Zurich and Ben’s upcoming gig with HYPR. As well as writing charts Ben also got tempted by a new kit once owned by Mark Richardson of Skunk Anansie fame from Graham Russell (lovely bit of Japanese oak). We also chat about the 7th of September, parachuting out of a plane and what we’d do if we were the last humans alive. Enjoy!
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Two guys have finally managed to put their drama all behind them and reunite for the people… and Oasis are back together! We chat about their recent reunion announcement and ponder over who the drummer will be. We both had a busy bank holiday weekend of gigging with George playing in a cold cowshed and Ben playing in Horsham town centre. George also went for a few beers in London with a recent guest and someone paid some idiot tax after losing their keys. Enjoy!
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On this week’s show we’re talking about the intricacies of passing wind while playing drums, George is off to play a festival in Zurich and Ben purchased a PackBrack. We’re also introduced to the term ‘hi hat bark’ and the difference between triple flange and die cast hoops. Ben also recently worked on some new music with former X-Factor finallist Sean Smith and while on a trip to Lego store got distracted and tried out the new Apple Vision Pro. Enjoy!
Little Song: https://open.spotify.com/track/5aF1Yq5xuCI3f3Y1sGqOiT?si=68430fcb087f4b63
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Welcome back to another episode! After seemingly having done nothing of note over the last few weeks we’re digging deep and chatting about the Olympics, George’s car battery dying outside his therapist's house and non-eventful gigs. There’s also trips to the cinema, appropriate TV size and a night on the Guinni with Elliott Joseph. Enjoy!
Norm Archer: https://open.spotify.com/album/4SWQQOXIZCLrdLilIrd21z?si=9arbdzprQ7iVbjuXZCuKdw
PackBrack: https://packbrack.com/
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This week's episode is ‘ablaze’ with banter thanks to our brilliant guest, Jordan Farrugia! After regaling us with a tale of arson and an unusual first date in court, we move on to drumming and Jordan’s career playing for Iranian artist Kamyar for his UK and European shows. We also talk about becoming a Master of Music at the London College of Music, getting to grips with Ableton, working part time, snare drums and the audition process for joining Sonny Tennet’s band. Plus Jordan gives us a sneak peak of his invention, Pack Brack; a new way of mounting IEM packs for drummers. Enjoy!
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This week we had a lovely chat with Lainey Loops who is the drummer for SNAYX. Lainey gives us all the ups and downs of being in a band from touring with Royal Blood and Billy Talent, playing Download to being stuck on the Autobahn for 7 hours and balancing life on the road with work. Also a fellow non-burper along with George and previous guest James Gillingham, who is also her partner, we discuss splitting her time between Sheffield and Brighton, recent endorsements with Natal and Zildjian and overpaying for a packet of Monster Munch. Enjoy!
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This week we are joined by the one and only Bob Knight. Not only has Bob had a staggering drumming career playing for the likes of Rita Ora, Nik Kershaw, Michael Bublé and Cee-Lo Green (plus so many more) he has also become one of the big ‘fixers’ in the music industry. Having moved down from Yorkshire to London to study at the Royal Academy of Music, Bob decided to take bookings into his own hands and soon started providing musicians for tours, TV appearances and recordings all round the UK and further afield. This is a great listen for any aspiring musician. Enjoy!
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The Euros are over and whilst we also regularly disappoint the nation, unlike Gareth, we aren’t going anywhere! Ben had a gig down in Cornwall and made a weekend of it and George has been adjusting to electric kits and restaurant gigs. We also talk about being prepared by getting things right at the start to save time and avoid practising wrong. Ben also made more use of the sale at Graham Russell Drums but what did he buy? Enjoy!
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Recorded before the General Election and England’s quarter final win, we weren’t sure what this week would look like! What we do know is that Ben will go to great lengths to avoid a dirty PlayStation controller. He also took a trip to Paultons Park and we both showed our faces at Graham Russell Drums with George taking further advantage of the sale by purchasing a new ride cymbal. Enjoy!
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We’ve all been there, you go to buy a drum mat and end up with some new hi hats. George found himself diverted to Graham Russell Drums on his way to a gig and took advantage of their Euro’s discount on used drum gear. We also chat about England’s recent win, boomers and the role of band leader. Enjoy!
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The Euros are underway and while the expectation of the nation weighs heavy, our new hardware is light as a feather. George has joined Ben in getting the Yamaha Crosstown lightweight hardware and is pleased with his choice. There’s also chat about good gigs, school rumours, human anatomy, pizzas and how to eat a burger. Enjoy!
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This week we are joined by the absolute joy that is Will Daly! Having been a drummer since childhood Will completed a degree in teaching and then spent four years working at the Warner Brothers Harry Potter Studio Tour. He then made the big decision to drum full time, setting up a teaching studio on a farm near his home in Essex alongside playing live for original band Stealing Signs and covers band Winston and the Lads. We chat about making that transition, his unrivalled energy, running his drum camps and his love of the late great Taylor Hawkins. Enjoy!
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On this week’s show Ben tore a ligament in his back leaving him unable to walk while to the contrary George showed off his walking skills while playing a roaming gig. There was also some band drama at the studio that Ben overheard and in good taste sent a play by play to George on WhatsApp. Enjoy!
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Hello! George is revelling in all sorts of fame this week; his voice being recognised by a fellow drummer, being featured on a gig poster and going viral on Facebook for his vegetable measuring skills. There’s also some more e-cymbal chat and find out how Ben’s getting on with his new ACS IEMs. Enjoy!
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George has been to a couple of weddings but this time as a guest; one he left early and the other had a very unacceptable best man speech. There’s also pancake chat as Ben went to Center Parcs for the big 39th birthday (which George forgot). We also have a follow up message from a listener and Ben’s ACS IEMs arrive during the show. Enjoy!
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This week we are joined by the awesome Tom O. Mitchell! Tom and his team at Drumwise, based in Kent, are celebrating 20 years of teaching pupils of all ages and abilities. The studio is kitted out with two Roland VAD kits and also offers students opportunities to record in studios and meet top drummers at the Drumwise clinics. During lockdown, Tom also ran his own series on YouTube interviewing some of the biggest drummers out there and also wrote a book called ‘Find Your Beat’ to help beginners learn the drums with a focus on words and colours instead of traditional scores. Tom also plays live for a Led Zeppelin / Deep Purple theatre tribute band and tours regularly with Emma Stevens. Enjoy!
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Game, set, match! George finally has his grudge match on the tennis court with Jack Hicklin and was also tricked into playing a wedding gig by the sneaky Lennon Taylor. Ben chats about the importance of insuring your drums and how the total value can add up quickly! There’s also some listener correspondence where we turn detective and some chat about swinging. Enjoy!
Oxygen Thief: https://youtu.be/PvKSJ5_yscs?si=ztvGXujDD0hrRWxe
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On this week’s episode we chat about reaching 10,000 downloads (thanks for listening) and a weekend of gigging. George had a double dip weekend playing a theatre in Bracknell with 80s Hi-Fi and a wedding the following day and Ben tested his new hybrid set up at a wedding in Bristol but how did it go? Hit play to find out. Enjoy!
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Thanks for joining us! There’s lots of great stuff on this week's show including the busiest gig day in May, WhatsApp playing with fire and Ben finally gets his ears moulded. We also talk about how busy Zildjian have been so far this year with not only the return of the Z Customs but this week they seemed to hint that they’re entering the world of the e-kit (and not for the first time it would seem). George talks about drum focused songs and Ben had his heart broken by those he trusts the most. Enjoy!
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Welcome to another episode of Drum and Drummer! This week we’re chatting about George’s recent gig with Lennon Taylor where he used his new Gretsch Catalina with a slightly unusual cymbal set up. Ben also talks in detail about his new kit; the Roland VAD504! Having played it at two wedding gigs already, is this the future of live drumming? He’s also paired it with a full set of Yamaha Crosstown hardware to make transport easier (and save his ailing back). There’s also some tennis beef brewing as George preps for his grudge match with a previous guest. Enjoy!
Lennon Taylor ‘Gatorbone’: https://shorturl.at/jloV0
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This week we are joined by the King of drum retail; it’s Graham Russell! As long time customers of Graham Russell Drums we were delighted to sit down and chat with Graham about how he turned buying a few second hand kits into the UK’s largest drum store and what makes them so good at what they do. We also talk about customer satisfaction, keeping stock levels high and trends in the drum industry. Enjoy!
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It’s just the two of us this week and time for a good catch up. We have some correspondence to get through and George has been practising using the disappearing click method (although we can’t agree on what it actually is). We also chat about limb dynamics, working with a previous guest in the studio and Ben’s been up to London filming some new function band promo. Enjoy!
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This week we are joined by the legendary Mat Hector. As well as a stellar career drumming for the likes of Iggy Pop, Marc Almond and Razorlight he now spends some of his time producing artists and session recording from his studio built during Covid. We talk about the meticulous approach to accurately playing Lust For Life, matching Iggy’s energy on stage, the art of groove and the ‘disappearing click’ practice technique. We also find out what it's like to record a drum sample pack after Mat played every sample for the ‘Fields Of Rock’ expansion pack for Superior Drummer. Enjoy!
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This week we are joined by the amazing Georgia Challinor. We caught up with Georgia not long after she returned home from touring with Enter Shikari as the band’s drum tech. We find about life on the road and expanding her career from playing to also being a tech and playback engineer. We also chat about the similar experiences we all shared being a drummer at school, pay systems for touring and owning a snare drum used by Paramore. Enjoy!
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Protesting at his new found fame, Hercules delayed the start of this week’s episode by doing a poo on the carpet and George’s recycling has finally been collected. It’s all going on! Once we’d calmed down George tells us more about his recent gig in London with Mackenzie including learning songs at short notice and dealing with playback. Meanwhile Ben had his hearing test at Boots. Listen to find out the results. Enjoy!
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This week we are joined by the awesome Ollie Woods. Ollie is quickly gaining notoriety on Instagram due to his transcriptions of famous drum solos. Not only does he meticulously transcribe note for note he also takes on the challenge of learning how to play the solo as well! We talk about how it started, the process of transcribing and the issues that can arise with all the different kit variations. Ollie has also studied at the prestigious Berklee College of Music in Boston, been a finalist in the Young Drummer of the Year and is currently completing a PhD in metric modulation. There’s also a nice surprise when we ask about his favourite delivery company. Enjoy!
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After our best intro ever, we were joined by Dave Eyre to chat all about drumming case stalwarts Hardcase! Started in 1992 by Amber Plastics in Chesterfield with a desire to expand their use of rotational moulding technology market research pointed towards the music industry and in particular drums. Now a separate company and run by Dave they continue to be a global brand in the drum case business. We talk about the history of the product, new features driven by both users and drum/cymbal makers and the production process from start to finish. We also quiz Dave on any unsuccessful innovations, how they test the cases and why full lining is only available on certain models. Enjoy!
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This week’s episode was recorded face to face as George has been recording a new drum video at Ben’s studio. We talk about the day in the studio and the drum gear we used (including ANOTHER new snare drum). George has also got new skins for his Gretsch Catalina and been to see friends play with Deaf Havana and You Me At Six. We also talk about Snareweights and a run in with the Irish police! Enjoy!
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This week we are talking about ear safety and who better to talk to than Jono Heale from ACS; one of the leading brands in hearing protection and in-ear monitors. Having been a professional bass player for 15 years Jono unfortunately developed tinnitus which completely changed his life. We talk about the impact that had on him and his career, the positive changes in attitude towards hearing protection, how loud drums are, listening exposure time and what you can do to protect yourself and how ACS can help. This is a great listen for all musicians and consumers of music. Enjoy!
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This week we are joined by the magnificent ‘Deano Machine’ aka Dean Llewellyn. Dean is an exceptional guitarist and plays in the band Barbara with previous guest Lawrie Miller. He is also friends with and gigs regularly with George so we thought we’d get a guitarist's point of view about drums and drummers. He regaled us with tales about gigs in hair salons, the weird world of joinmyband.com, ‘the lick’ and much more. With an upcoming tour supporting Paul Weller we talk about pressure, drum volume on stage and he flips the script and asks us what we want from guitarists. Enjoy!
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It’s a bumper episode this week with plenty of drum chat. We both went to a 30th birthday party / jam night and George played at Icebreaker festival where hair extensions and guitar heads don’t mix. Our wallets have suffered as we’ve both been shopping for new drum gear with Ben getting a new stool, kick pedal, hi hat stand and crash and George picking up a second hand Gretsch Catalina kit. We also chat about Evans and Remo skins and the equivalent models they offer while George has been learning to make pizzas. Enjoy!
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This week we are joined by Jack Hicklin! After studying at BIMM, Jack put drums on the back burner as he spent the following few years coaching tennis. Now with a renewed passion for drumming he’s prioritising his music career with regular gigs in both the covers and original circuits. We find out if there’s any similarities between high level tennis and high level drumming, the challenges of re-entering the drumming scene, not hearing back after auditions and most importantly how fast his tennis serve is. Enjoy!
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To clean or not to clean, that is the question. On this week’s episode we are talking about cymbal cleaning and why you should or maybe more importantly why you shouldn’t be doing it. Also Ben’s new hi hats get put under the microphone in the studio and we learn about the magic (or science) behind Bar Keepers Friend. Enjoy!
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Hello! This week Ben finally buckled under the weight of public opinion and started watching The Traitors but has ruined his sleep schedule in the process. George has been on his croissant making course and played an 80th birthday party under difficult sound restrictions including a rhythmically challenged clapper. We also take a look at practice routines, the books George has been using to keep those drumsticks under control and breaking through plateaus. Enjoy!
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It’s been cold so Ben’s got his big coat on. George regales us of his triumphant pub quiz antics and we take a look at the Zildjian 400th anniversary snare drum which comes with a hefty price tag. We’ve had some more kit pics in and one of us is off on a croissant making course. Enjoy!
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Happy New Year! On this first episode of 2024 we caught up on what we did over Xmas including Ben’s trip to New York and George’s busy working week. We also chat about our goals for 2024 in more detail, read out a lovely listener message, grabbing some new hi-hats from the Big Apple, and a night out including getting smashed, watching The Darkness and going to a casino with Hugh Grant (well, someone who looked like him). Enjoy!
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We hope you had a good Christmas! Join us this week for our Xmas Special where we had a fun, in person chat with not one, not two but THREE guests! In what now appears to be an Xmas tradition we welcomed back Josh and Elliott but if that wasn’t enough we were also joined by the wonderful Neil Elliott. After some chat about jingle bells, gravity and George’s new Aldi shoes, Josh played the role of Santa delivering presents from his big sack. We then spoke about our highlights of 2023, the state of both live and recorded music in today’s climate and our goals for 2024. Stick around for the outro where Ben quizzes George on our podcast stats for the year. Enjoy!
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This week we are joined by Kevin Hein! Kevin moved from Germany to London to study drums at BIMM and has quickly become an in demand session drummer. With his acoustic looking Roland VAD kit he has fully embraced modern technology enabling full band rehearsals in a London flat and combining acoustic and electronic setups at shows. We also chat about using Instagram, growing up in rural Germany, taking drum gear around London, the essential need for backups and redundant MacBooks, influences and food. Enjoy!
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This week we’re catching up on George’s birthday, the return of Covid and we received some great listener emails. George has also been shopping and entered the world of silent cymbals and skins. Find out what he thinks and how was the delivery experience? There’s also the guy air-drumming with sticks in front of Ben at a recent gig and what surprising DVDs were found in an elderly care home. Enjoy!
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Hello! On this week’s episode we chat about dealing with grief and gigging/working in the immediate aftermath of losing a family member. George has also been to another gig up in London and we discuss the ergonomics of setting up your drums and are important lessons being missed due to online learning. We wanna see your kit pics and go wish George a happy birthday. Enjoy!
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Unfortunately we have to start this week's episode with some sad news after the unexpected passing of Ben’s father, Adrian. While the dust settles on a tragic week, George is on hand for some distraction and tells us what he’s been up to and it involves a lot of trips to London! He went to see some gigs, played a Wren show, got his ears cleaned out and had a stint working in the TV side of football! Expect to see us unofficially sponsoring League 2 sometime soon.
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This week we are joined by Eddie from Primas Custom Drums! We talk about how he put his previous skills as a carpenter and engineer and passion for drums to good use in setting up Primas Custom Drums. We delve into his unique manufacturing process, customer base, price point and modifying kits. We also learn about his job at Rolls Royce Aerospace and a particular way they test the engines! Enjoy!
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This week we had a great chat with Ciara Chinniah! Ciara recently gave a masterclass at the UK Drum Show and tells us of her love of odd time signatures and the imminent book she’s written focussing on just that. We also discuss family priorities, what it’s like drumming while pregnant and both of her podcasts ‘Drummer Mamas’ and ‘Drum Education Live’. She also runs the ‘She Can Drum’ drum camp and teaches privately from her own studio in Essex. Enjoy!
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Pop on your red trousers, it’s time for another Drum and Drummer! George learns how the distinct snare sound in ‘Beat It’ was created, played a lovely gig covering songs by David Bowie and danced the night away at a cèilidh. Ben finished the album he started in January and spent his nights at home building his prized Lego. We also chat about playing football with an ex Premier League footballer, take a trip to the Drum Dumpster and discuss the weird world of the local bonfire societies. Enjoy!
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On this week’s show we’re talking about George’s recent gigs with Mackenzie and a long drive to Leeds and back with the one and only Deano. Ben’s got a new car and thinks the world is a bit like Grand Theft Auto and we both get riled up by lazy sax players and Instagram messages. Enjoy!
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This week we are joined by special guest Oli Middleton! Oli has been the drum tech for Bastille for nearly a decade and we chatted about getting the job, what a typical day on tour looks like and dealing with Woody’s ever expanding set up. We also quiz him on changing skins and tuning (no Moongel allowed) and the ups and downs of life on the road. Enjoy!
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It’s a big day today as we celebrate reaching 100 episodes! George is chatting from his new drum booth and tells us how his first gig with Ableton went and Ben has got his new BDC snare. We then chat about reaching 100 episodes and there’s a secret recording from when we were coming up with the idea of starting the podcast. Enjoy!
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We’re back with more chat about our trip to the UK Drum Show in Liverpool. With heads sore and a big breakfast in our bellies we headed to the ACC. After quickly realising drum exhibitions are quite loud we had a wander round and spoke to some familiar faces and BDC offered Ben a deal he couldn’t refuse. We also bumped into Greyson Nekrutman! It was a great experience to go and see what was on offer and also give the podcast some promotion. Enjoy!
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Greetings! We’ve just been to the UK Drum Show in Liverpool and we’re gonna talk about it… well we’re gonna talk about the day before. After a long drive that took pretty much all day we popped out for dinner, visited some pubs, met some fellow drummers and saw a really big bin. Enjoy!
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Hello! As we gear up for a trip to the UK Drum Show we’re chatting about Ben’s 20 year uni reunion in London, George popping out for a roast and returning home after 1am and a man pissing himself in the middle of a pub. George watches Lord of the Rings for the first time and delves further into Ableton while Ben makes a rare appearance at a wedding as a guest and one of us has a cracked hi-hat. Enjoy!
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This week we are joined by the amazing Camille Phillips! Camille is the drummer for The Subways and she very kindly agreed to chat to us before heading out on a co-headline UK and European tour with Ash. We chatted about joining The Subways, getting into drumming, making music videos and touring with a broken foot. There’s also chat about her work with Save The Night, encouraging more young female drummers, her love of Mapex and visiting the Paiste factory in Switzerland. Enjoy!
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If you’ve ever lost something, check your shoes! On this week’s show a listener email gets us chatting about writing drums charts, learning by ear, isolating parts and how much do we stick to the original version. George popped into Kingston to see Royal Blood and Ben hates a particular type of t-shirt. Enjoy!
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This week we are joined by Connor Hopkins who is the drummer for Dylan. We get straight into Connor’s hefty practice routine, getting into drumming and heading to the Academy of Contemporary Music aged 16. Connor tells us how his jeans nearly didn’t land him the Dylan gig and he runs us through his kit set up and his plans to expand it. With a busy rest of 2023 ahead we ask his thoughts on the risks of being a freelancer and what he thinks his strengths and weaknesses are as a drummer. Enjoy!
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Did you know there is no Burger King on the Isle Of Wight? Welcome to another episode of Drum and Drummer. George had a busy bank holiday weekend where he was a guest at a wedding which involved camping, drinking and ‘handfasting’. Ben went to the Isle Of Wight to play a wedding to the ‘locals’. Enjoy!
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This week we are joined by the J2O swigging legend that is Dane Earl. Dane is currently the drum tech for previous guest and friend of the show Ben Thomas (Rag’n’Bone Man). We chat about how he got the job, a day in the life of a touring drum tech, tuning drums and what’s required during the show. Dane is also the drummer for rock / nu-metal revivalists Weller. We find out how he got into drumming after having his goals set for a completely different career plus much more. Enjoy!
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Ben’s been busy gigging those darn weddings and George has been up to Londinium for a jam night that didn’t quite go as planned. There’s also chat about tom tuning and size after Ben got his Yamaha Stage Custom and used it in the studio straight away. We also chat Drumeo videos and George gets a full on description of The Crystal Maze from Ben as HE’S NEVER SEEN IT! Enjoy!
Larnell Lewis Hears “Enter Sandman” For The First Time: https://youtu.be/Zd_UcjMusUA
Megadeth Drummer Hears “Mr. Brightside” For The First Time: https://youtu.be/tbUYVcaF_l0
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Hello! George has taken his maiden voyage down to Cornwall to play at a farm shop with Elliott Joseph and enlightens us to the three M’s that make up a good gig. Ben’s been busy with wedding gigs but more importantly welcomes new hamster Princess Bubblegum to the family. George takes us through getting to grips with Ableton and could Ben be getting a new kit? Enjoy!
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We just did a gig together so we’re talking about that; ruining carpets, too much BBQ food and a very drunk groom. George has also gone and grabbed a new snare (can you guess which one?) and an actual drum mat to replace the Ikea rug. We also chat about grace vs ghost notes and what makes gear ‘industry standard’. Enjoy!
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Good morning! Welcome to another episode of Drum and Drummer. Ben’s got a new snare drum and while at the drum shop he bumped into an old friend he hasn’t seen since the infamous ‘Corfu 2003’ holiday. George has also picked up some new skins and ordered some drum cases but paranoia is kicking in about the sizes. There’s also a trip to space in the Drum Dumpster. Enjoy!
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After a quick game of ‘guess what I had for breakfast’, George tells us about his cancelled gig at Jurassic Fields festival and Ben’s got some new drumming shoes. There’s more food complaints about McDonald’s delivery and wedding curry and has ddrum been ahead of the hybrid kit curve this whole time? Enjoy!
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This week we air our frustrations with open air gig crowds and wedding pizza vans. Ben is very jealous of Elton John’s travel arrangements and why do a bride and groom insist that Brown Eyed Girl isn’t played at their wedding? Also there’s online hate for Zak Starkey’s electronic kit, our plans for some exclusive YouTube content and something’s made its way into the Drum Dumpster. Enjoy!
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This week we cover everything from really needing the toilet to the origin of Vic Firth drum sticks. Also Ben has bought three different brands of 5A sticks and got his scales out to weigh them. Plus George explains how the drum kit came to be and what old snare wires used to be made of. Enjoy!
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Hello! First on this week’s agenda is Glastonbury and last weekend's wedding gigs. Ben takes us through his new crash and ride cymbals, what AAX and HHX mean and the difference between B20 and B8 cymbals. There’s also a mind-blowing history of Sabian, Adidas, Puma and Fanta. Get ready to learn! Enjoy!
Oxygen Thief @ 2000 Trees: https://youtu.be/cIWWt7RDInY
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This week we’re joined by George’s current drum teacher Pat Garvey! Pat is regarded as one of the country's leading educators both privately and in the popular music education scene. We had a lovely natter about his practice routine, improving a player, teaching classes versus one-to-one and how the industry has changed for drummers and what impact that has on popular music courses. We also find out about how he got into drumming and more about his old teacher Bob Armstrong plus find out how George stood out in his final performance at BIMM! Enjoy!
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This week we’re joined by the legend that is Jonny Brister! With such a vast C.V. in tow (so many artists, top 40 albums, top 10 singles, arena shows, West End theatre tours) we chat about his current gig playing for Jake Shears (Scissor Sisters) and their recent tour with Duran Duran. We delve into his monitor mix preferences, dealing with pressure, developing focus, hitting a wall with his playing and what he enjoys outside of drumming. He also plays some BIG cymbals and we find out what it was like playing for Right Said Fred. Enjoy!
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There’s more vehicle misery for Ben this week as he tries to take a sofa to the tip and George pranks his band mates with a simple classic. There’s also listener correspondence, autograph hunting, a documentary about the Las Vegas massacre and Royal Blood being naughty boys at Radio One’s Big Weekend. Enjoy!
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What ever happened to Draw Something? And why are there no f**king shelves in B&Q? George did some session drumming in the studio (not Ben’s) and we get an update on how his drum lessons are going. There’s also kick pedal chat as we discuss the difference between chain drive and direct drive. Enjoy!
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After a round up of Ben’s birthday and first Freshman Year gig of the season, we chat about George’s cushty daytime gig and shopping trip to Graham Russell Drums, his new crash and kick case and discuss the Foo Fighters announcement of a new drummer. Enjoy!
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It’s Ben’s 38th birthday! As George awaits a flat inspection, we chat long naps, his trip to Greece, a rowdy gig with a major drum violation and recent issues with Spotify. We’ve also booked our tickets to this year's UK Drum Show and George is off shopping for a kick drum case and crash cymbal. Enjoy!
Young Pine ‘Trapped’: https://spoti.fi/3IhU0P7
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Hello! This week we’re talking embarrassing deaths, the inconsistent world of sound limiters, using a different snare at gigs and living in the present. Plus we have some listener correspondence, get very in depth about stick weights and Ben has a small Instagram gripe. Enjoy!
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We’re back chatting about our bank holiday weekends, George’s recent gigs with Elliott Joseph and The 505s, the reality of booking our agency's additional ‘DJ’ service and the car troubles haven’t stopped. Plus, our ideas to replace the Coronation Quiche. Enjoy!
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Hello! This week we are joined by Jack Geary who is the drummer for Atlantic Records artist and rising star Maisie Peters. As well as their own headline shows they’ve also been tour support for Ed Sheeran on his stadium world tour. We had a great chat and a laugh about tattoos, bad chorizo, playing stadiums, your role as a support act, auditions (good and bad), the power of hi-hats, playing a function the day after 5 nights at Wembley and his BDC kit. Enjoy!
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After discussing our choice of t-shirts we chat about last week's gig which included eating too much pizza and another tyre issue for Ben. George is back rehearsing with Elliott Joseph and is impressed by his parallel parking, and a friend’s gig took a turn for the worse when the groom’s dad suffered a cardiac arrest midway through the party. We also take a look at some cymbal triggers sent in by a listener to add to the dream sound limiter kit. Enjoy!
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Wedding season is back! But before we venture out for our first Decade gig of the year there’s some Easter egg chat, discussions on why are there less wedding gigs this year, George settling into his new flat, playing with 7A sticks and has Ben come up with the ideal kit set up for venues with sound limiters? Oh and George got caught speeding. Enjoy!
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Morning all! Plenty of waffle for you this week; George took on the Sprite challenge and is once again thinking about purchasing a new snare. We also ask should drums be available on a hire purchase deal? We’re concocting plans to head to the UK drum show in September and discuss if gigs in the day are a good idea. Plus Ben gets a puncture at a comedy gig but with a nice surprise ending and we also find out how it went when George and his Dad tried to meet Dave Grohl. Enjoy!
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It’s just us two this week but plenty to catch up on. Ben’s been to Las Vegas and George has completed training for his new job. Find out about it all right here. Enjoy!
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What do Kim Wilde, The Darkness and The Voice Kids all have in common? We’ll tell you; Emily Dolan Davies behind the kit! After a quick chat about food we got down to drumming business talking about touring with Kim Wilde (and how that works with two drummers), remote session work and its challenges, playing in the house band on The Voice Kids, recording and touring with The Darkness and featuring in the Netflix documentary Count Me In. Enjoy!
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Welcome to the ‘No Burp Club’! This week we welcome onto the show Mr James Gillingham; a drummer from Brighton who sessions, teaches and is one quarter of the band Congratulations. We chat about techniques for playing quiet and loud, the long road to becoming a full time drummer, his Premier and Natal kits and we find out what medical condition he and George share. There’s also a revival of everyone’s favourite game ‘Car or Drum’ and which delivery company left James searching in bushes for half an hour. Enjoy!
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This week we welcome onto the show one of George’s drumming idols Jay Sikora! Jay has had an extensive drumming career playing for the likes of Stephen Fretwell, Paolo Nutini, Lianne La Havas and Birdy but it wasn’t until his 30s that a lot of this happened as he was enjoying another successful career at Apple. We chat about all of the above plus his Canopus kit, when Jools Holland’s Hootenanny really takes place and heading back out on tour after 6 years, a wedding and two kids. Enjoy!
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Whether podcasts, music or pottery, why do we seek our friends' approval even if they’re not our target audience? VALIDATE US PLEASE! Well we had a little SITA (shot in the arm) when we found ourselves sitting at number 12 on a list of great drum podcasts so we had a self indulgent chat about that. Also as drummers there can be many reasons we need to play quietly so how does one go about it? We also divulge into some boring admin calendar chat and assigning colours to days of the week and months of the year. Enjoy!
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This week we had a chat with the wonderful AJ Rousell. As well as being an drum teacher and educator, AJ has written two books; ‘The Drummer’s Odyssey’ and ‘The Field Manual For The Church Drummer. He also delivers masterclasses and is the founder of The Drummer’s Odyssey Camp. We chat about both running and performing at clinics, his books, teaching online during a pandemic, his kit and cymbals and take a look into the specific world of church drumming! Enjoy!
AJ’s website: https://www.ajrousell.com
AJ’s Instagram: @ajrouselldrums
The Drummer’s Odyssey Camp: https://www.thedrummersodysseycamp.com
Brewtime Practice: @brewtimepractice
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Curtains up! This week we are joined by Matt Billups. After graduating from the Brit School, Matt quickly found himself playing in the band for X-Factor winner Joe McElderry which then led on to the touring show of Joseph. Since then he’s been a regular in the theatre world touring the UK, Europe and depping in the West End. We chat about his career, what it’s like to play in the theatre, the gear required (lots of percussion), prepping for the West End, coping with long tours, a chance meeting with Dennis Chambers, the dreaded ‘never again’ list and dealing with imposter syndrome. Enjoy!
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Hear about our busy weekend as we went to Young Pine’s gig, George played at Icebreaker and Ben did some session drumming in the studio and went to a surprise 40th birthday party. There’s also snare chat; George switching to Remo and Ben wants an aluminium snare (add it to the shopping list), broken cymbals and a listener has sent something into the Drum Dumpster (shhhh). Enjoy!
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It’s just the two of us and we can make it if we try. We’re talking favourite months, the Ladyboys of Brighton, an easy gig for George and managing anxiety. Plus George has got himself a new job and is moving in with his partner. He’s growing up fast! Enjoy!
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We’re back and joining us this week is Liam James who is the drummer for Young Pine. Fresh after sorting his kit out for a headline show, we chat about Young Pine and their new single ‘Cold’, what it’s like being pushed in the studio (by Ben), his attitude to progress, starting drums and playing weaknesses. After the drum chat was out of the way, we got onto the big topics; keeping the studio tuck shop in business, favourite delivery company (it’s a wildcard choice), McDonald’s and how Liam put his foot in it with the studio neighbours and their van. Enjoy!
Young Pine: https://spoti.fi/3WCIMca
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We’re very pleased to welcome Daphne Koskeridou onto the show. Originally from Greece, Daphne moved to Brighton aged 18 to pursue her dreams of becoming a drummer. After studying at BIMM she has achieved a lot with both her original band CLT DRP, her covers band 80s HiFi and as a session player including a sold out show at the O2 Forum in London with Martin Rossiter. Endorsements from Natal and Code Head Drums have quickly followed and with a new CLT DRP album out this year things are only looking up. We also chat about her kit set up, singing, a quick drive to Romania and the challenges that come about from being female in the drumming world. Enjoy!
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It’s episode 60 and we have a guest in tow! Say hello to Lawrie Miller; a top session drummer and teacher based in Brighton. Alongside his teaching Lawrie sessions for the bands Barbara and Noble Jacks and we chat about managing his time between both projects, touring epic venues with The Divine Comedy, and moving up the ladder to bigger stages and how to adjust. We also find out about his penchant for vintage gear, playing with traditional grip and keeping fit and healthy running ultra marathons. Enjoy!
Lawrie’s Instagram: @lawriemiller
Jack Child 'Why Does New Year Suck So Bad' (Ben's drumming)
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Happy New Year! Or is it too late to say that, where’s the cutoff? Anyway, we’re back with our first episode of 2023. Find out what we got up to over Xmas; there’s gifts, gigs, wigs, late NYE party invites and we chat about our photoshoot. There’s also the welcome return of The Drum Dumpster. Enjoy!
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Welcome to Mum and Mummer! A podcast about Mums, Mumming and Mummers. It’s a kind of New Years special and after teasing it for a while we have our Mums on the podcast! Say hello to Ann and Sandra. We asked them what it was like when we said we wanted to play drums from noise in the house, lifts to gigs, waiting in car parks, watching us play and sending us off to university. We also find out about their musical (and dancing) chops and find out who their favourite delivery companies are along with a great tale involving cheese and the police. Happy New Year and enjoy!
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Merry Christmas everyone and welcome to our Xmas episode. For this special occasion we’ve got not one, but TWO guests as we welcome back bassist and legend Josh Rowe and joining us for the first time is our dear friend and musical colleague Elliott Joseph. As well as some Xmas stuff we chat about the Wren gig (which we were all at), a naughty local wedding venue, George’s thrifty ways, how Elliott sang his way to be in our hearts and lives, original gigs versus function gigs, Xmas gigs, sprouts and the safety pop on jars. Enjoy!
Elliott Joseph: https://spoti.fi/3FPd1aV
Villennes: https://spoti.fi/3FNucJW
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This week we are joined by very special guest Mark Pusey! Mark is probably best known for playing drums for Ed Sheeran but as well as that he’s had an incredibly successful career playing for Tom Jones, Olly Murs, Leona Lewis, Katherine Jenkins and many, many more. Fresh from a session at Abbey Road for a new Amy Winehouse biopic we chat about playing for films in the studio, kit selection, playing style, touring with Ed Sheeran and the unique stage set up and special kit that was required. We also talk about Mark’s life outside of drums and how important it is to be a well rounded person which can help make you a better drummer. Enjoy!
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It’s George’s birthday week, nearly Xmas and England are through to the quarter finals. WHAT A WEEK. George has been out partying three days in a row watching bands and singing karaoke, Xmas shopping with Dean and tucking into some sweet birthday tapas while Ben has put his tree up. We also chat about watching other drummers and donuts. Enjoy!
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Happy birthday to us! It’s our one year anniversary so come celebrate with us as we chat about George’s gig at The Joiners, getting older, the best way to serve pizza at a wedding and we answer that age old question; how much does it cost to ship a bass cab to New Zealand? Enjoy!
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EASY! Although George missed the game, it was a great start to the World Cup for England. George has been getting ready for his headline show rehearsing and Ben helped him re-skin his kit (let's talk about the shoes). There’s chat about bands using extra musicians live (some on stage, some hidden) but the main chat this week is about drum triggers both live and in the studio. Bring on Friday! Enjoy!
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It’s another episode of Drum & Drummer and somehow we’ve pulled out an edit we think is worth listening to. George has been busy working at his crew job and experienced yet another w**ker at a gig. Ben’s been having a spring clean at home and at work (some studio gear up for sale if you’re interested), and we find out what was actually in Connor’s hardware case. There’s also chat about FX cymbals including the Chopper, George has been shopping for skins and Ben’s had another interesting studio phone call. Enjoy!
Jack Child - Boyfriends House (featuring Ben on drums)
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Wedding season is over and Ben’s got some stats. George did a Halloween gig with Wren and met friend of the pod Connor Griffiths in person. Surprisingly there’s some drum chat this week including breakables, sharing kits, festival kits and is the headline slot the best slot? There’s also a tough decision to make as George’s next gig falls on the same evening as England VS USA in the World Cup. What will Ben do? Enjoy!
Wren tickets 25th November @ The Joiners
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It’s a blast from George’s past this week as we welcome his first drum teacher onto the show. Pete Watson has been drum teacher for the last 18 years and teaches both in schools and at his private studio the Rhythm Room. We find out how he got into teaching, his weekly schedule, dealing with students of all ages and abilities, how he started drumming, his kits and how he nearly owned his own drum shop! Enjoy!
Rhythm Room: rhythmroomdrums.co.uk
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It’s another episode in your ears. The boys are in the same room eventually after George had a nightmare journey to Portsmouth. Ben had a tough weekend with car sickness, new tattoo work healing badly and the unfortunate passing of Princess Bean (RIP). There’s a rowdy wedding, bad speeches, Police action in Hilsea and George went to a very fancy dinner party at a neighbour’s flat. Enjoy!
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Una piña colada por favor! Ben’s back from his holiday, hooray! First bit of work was a Decade gig with George but in a different kind of venue. There’s a Nottingham-gate update, new drumstick chat with contrasting views on stick weight, plus George has actually started practising the drums! We also discuss the secret Vic Firth trick for holding the stick in the right place. Enjoy!
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George had an eventful gig at an 80th birthday party and then DIDN’T have a wedding gig when the band were cancelled the day before in what can only be described as bizarre circumstances! Yamaha makes an appearance in the Drum Dumpster and there’s the pilot of a new quiz, hosted and devised by Ben, ‘Car Or Drum’! This really is top stuff. Enjoy!
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Forget Tony Stark, GEORGE IS THE NEW IRON MAN! George tells all about his Ironman 70.3 achievement (no nudity allowed apparently), it was tractor VS lorry as Ben drove to Cornwall for a gig plus a trip in a Tesla and some new Pearl hardware makes it into the Drum Dumpster. Enjoy!
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He’s been mentioned a lot on the podcast and this week we finally welcome Neil Elliott onto the show. With Ben having been Neil’s human drum machine (and work wife) for 11 years at the studio, we wanted to find out what goes on in the head of a producer when working with drummers; from the good to the bad and the damn right ugly. Enjoy!
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Neil’s work: https://www.oldblacksmiths.com/record
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On this week’s show we talk about breaking the gig pack down record, what’s on our drum shopping list (turns out it’s a lot), the Foo Fighters memorial gig and a listener email gets us thinking about the zombie apocalypse. Oh, and Ben goes on a bit of a rant. Enjoy!
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We’re joined by very special guest Ben Thomas who is the drummer for Rag’n’Bone Man! We chat to Ben about how he got started with Rag’n’Bone Man, dealing with an unpredictable set, staying calm before a big show, teaching, tips to help your drumming sound better, working at BIMM, discipline, his drum gear and his eternal stick dilemma! Enjoy!
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Are we cool? Doubt it very much. On this week’s episode (probably the most dark and worst) Ben and George chat about selling out, making their Instagram more “sexy”, wedding guests who’ve had a few too many, taking daunting tasks step by step and most importantly of all asking the big question; could you kick a toddler’s head off? Enjoy!
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Welcome to another episode of Drum and Drummer. As wedding season starts to slightly slow down, George has been on a long cycle ride, Ben’s been busy at the studio and had his hand tattooed plus there’s the resolution to the story of the groom who wants to play with the band. George has also been back to school and had an eye opening drum lesson so pick up those juggling balls and get listening. Enjoy!
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It’s Thursday. You’re nearly through another week. Well done. IT’S THE BIG 4-0! On this week’s episode Ben and George chat about how they spent their time in Lockdown 3.0, go through some listener Tweets and an inventive alternative hardware case. But the big news is the Instagram poll as to whether George should let a groom play his drum kit and things turn angry after he picks George’s favourite song to play. The boys also chat about being dropped from gigs and why. Enjoy!
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There’s some listener emails and messages to get through including one about favourite drums solos and fills. Ben forgot something important at a gig the other day and he’s not alone as George once forgot his cymbals. There’s other recent eventful gigs, and tales of life intervening at the worst possible time. Strap yourselves in and get listening. Enjoy!
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This week Ben and George have a chat with Mel Stewart who is the Brand Development Manager for the British Drum Company. Formed in 2015, the BDC are quickly becoming the drummers choice for drums and snares. Mel takes us through his role at the BDC, their unique way of making drums, artist involvement, the difference between their Legend and Lounge series kits, and there’s technical talk about bearing edges, ply, wood types and the cold press technique. Mel also gives us a run down on some of the BDC snare drums, his current kit, first kit and he gets his mind blown when we chat delivery companies. Enjoy!
British Drum Co: https://www.britishdrumco.com/
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The next generation of drummers are here and ready to take over. This week Ben and George had a chat with Connor Griffiths. As well as playing for his band FLOWVERS (who are doing very well), at 21 Connor is already very active in the local session scene and is making dents into the function world too. Conversation includes when he turned pro, deciding not to go to uni, practising at gigs, FLOWVERS, singles vs albums, what modern drummers need to be able to do live, adding extras to your kit, his dream kit, best gigs so far and an extremely controversial pick for favourite delivery company. Enjoy!
FLOWVERS: https://spoti.fi/3PhUkym
Connor’s Instagram: @connorgriffithsdrums
Connor’s website: www.connorgriffithsdrums.co.uk
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Welcome to a new episode of Drum & Drummer. Ben and George are back chatting sh*t. A song for Pauly B, Decade gigs including heat exhaustion and lots of cocaine (the guests), delivery chat, Harry Potter, George’s 80s gig, Ben’s session drumming plus Tom Of The Week and the Drum Dumpster are back. MOST IMPORTANT OF ALL, BEN FINALLY MADE IT TO JURASSIC GRILL; even if it did cost him a whole bottle of wine. Enjoy!
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It’s a very special episode this week as the guys chat to one of Ben’s drumming idols; Guy Davis from Reuben. For those who don’t know, Reuben are an incredible band from the 00s and their debut album ‘Racecar Is Racecar Backwards’ is one of Ben’s favourite albums of all time. Seriously, go listen to it. They chat about what Guy has been up to since his latest project Freeze The Atlantic ended in 2018, joining Reuben, the making of Racecar Is Racecar Backwards, signing to Xtra Mile, touring, favourite gigs, his love for Sonor kits and how he felt when Reuben came to an end in 2008. Enjoy!
Reuben: https://spoti.fi/3Iw1OM2
Freeze The Atlantic: https://spoti.fi/3ASij34
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Today we welcome onto the show Si Lawrence. Si is the drummer for London based Strange Planes. Ben and Si got to know each other when Strange Planes supported Oxygen Thief on a few tours back in the day. There’s plenty of laughs to be had as the guys chat bands, shit gigs, a trip to Newcastle for an audition, convincing bass players not to go to uni, in band fighting and selling his DW kit for peanuts. It also turns out that not only does Si live in a real 'drum dumpster', he used to be an ungrateful little sh*t at Christmas. Enjoy!
Strange Planes: https://spoti.fi/3c5AtUW
Ben & Ellis’s lockdown song: https://youtu.be/eFUVI1N9upY
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Ben had a loooooong day gigging in Wales and there’s some big chat about drumming shoes. The boys both gig on the Isle Of Wight on the same day as Kasabian and one of them arrives at the ferry port heading home with what can only be described as too much cheese. George is cursed when going to Centre Parcs and how do you pass the time at gigs? Ben explains the game of P’asson and his trip to Sandown Pier to play crazy golf. Enjoy!
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This week on the show there’s some listener correspondence, ‘the internet’s bride’, getting your band name on your kick skin, George’s busy week gigging and recording at a different studio (such a traitor) and his new self help book ‘Beyond The Charts’. There’s also a couple of tube stories from Ben (one is disgusting), Tom Of The Week and a little trip to the Drum Dumpster for some 3D printed cymbal toppers. Enjoy!
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How many packets of crisps is it acceptable to take from a gig? The boys also chat about playing live to a click, George saying goodbye to Pompey and his first gig with his new wedding band, getting to gigs with no sat-nav and a drum stool incident that left George with smoke blowing up his arse. Enjoy!
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The big 3-0! Ben and George are back with another episode of your second favourite drumming podcast. The guys chat about school grades and A-level maths (completed it, mate), summer gigs, depping for original bands, ELF bars, a pub gig with sub-optimal musicians, bad deps, plus Tom Of The Week is back and Ben’s popped a custom Marvel themed kit of his dreams in the Drum Dumpster. Enjoy!
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Welcome to a new episode of Drum and Drummer. The lads caught up with Bastille drummer Chris ‘Woody’ Wood half way through their North American tour in support of their number 1 album ‘Give Me The Future’. Their chat includes touring, festivals, meeting Dan and forming Bastille, his extensive kit set up, playing drums at school, learning his craft, alternative career path, touring away from family and there’s some funny stories from Bastille’s tour with Muse and Incubus. Plus, who is Woody’s favourite delivery company? Enjoy!
Twitter: @woodythedrum
Instagram: @woodybangsthedrums
Bastille: https://www.bastillebastille.com
‘Give Me The Future’ on Spotify: https://spoti.fi/3NKzkja
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This week we welcome our first international guest onto the show! We had the absolute pleasure of talking to drummer and author S.W. Lauden about his latest book ‘Forbidden Beat: Perspectives On Punk Drumming’. Steve joins us from sunny Los Angeles as we chat about his book, what inspired him to write it, the evolution of punk drumming from the 70s through to modern pop-punk and the infamous D-Beat. Steve has also had a great career as a drummer from humble beginnings to recording in the same studio Led Zeppelin did with his band TSAR at the peak of the 00s LA power-pop scene. Enjoy!
Website: http://swlauden.com/
Twitter: https://twitter.com/swlauden
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/swlauden/
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Hello! This week Ben and George are joined by the delightfully charming Curtis Aaron. Curtis has taken his drumming skills abroad and on the high seas as a veteran of the cruise ship game. In fact, he was on a cruise ship when Covid came along. The chat got silly at several points but we did manage to find out about his great career thus far. As well as being a handsome chap and a top drummer, he’s also a songwriter and is working on his own original music. Hope you enjoy this episode as much as we did making it!
Follow Curtis on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/curtylou/
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The bald headed boys are back for some more belting banter. George has had a little holiday and got verbally attacked by a comedian and it’s Ben’s birthday week. What’s it like when your gig finishes early? That was the case for both guys last weekend. You pack up and GET OUT! You may have torpedoed your own wedding but we’re grateful to be home early. Within one day of being on Twitter the lads have been blocked by one of the big boys of drum sticks plus there’s Tom Of The Week and some ‘soul’ in the Drum Dumpster. Enjoy!
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It’s Thursday so that must mean it’s Drum and Drummer time! GET EXCITED PLEASE. George spent some time learning about how to tune a snare from Clem Burke’s drum tech. There’s top tax tips, advice on what George should watch on his day off (he hasn’t seen ANY TV BEFORE) plus Tom Of The Week and a look into the Drum Dumpster. Enjoy!
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It’s that time of the week again *sigh*. Ben has been drumming his little heart out in the studio and find out about his video audition for a fairly big metal band. George has been swimming and tells a tale of gluttony that resulted in tears. There’s Tom Of The Week, the Drum Dumpster and a bank that doesn’t accept cash? Insane.
Oxygen Thief: https://spoti.fi/3P5FuvM
Conjurer 'Choke': https://spoti.fi/37WvK6n
Far (feat. Oxygen Thief) Live: https://youtu.be/tNLTiVPIMOo
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Welcome to another episode of Drum and Drummer! This week Ben and George had a chat with session drummer extraordinaire Ben Kennedy. They chat about his career which really got going when he was cast as the drummer in the Girls Aloud music video for The Promise. Other highlights include touring with Ladyhawke, FOXES, Claire Maguire and James Walsh (Starsailor). Ever wondered what it’s like to support Coldplay on a stadium tour of the US? Wonder no more as Benny K has been there and done that. He’s also supported the likes of Bastille and Pharrell. That’s an impressive curriculum vitae. There’s also “fan favourite” Tom Of The Week and find out what made it into the Drum Dumpster. Enjoy!
Ben's website: https://www.benkennedydrums.co.uk/
COAX on Spotify: https://spoti.fi/3vbW8Su
Girls Aloud ‘The Promise’: https://youtu.be/xPrZ4yAdj8I
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Much to your probable disappointment it’s just Ben and George on this week's episode. But fear not as the pie of chat is jam packed with meaty filling. MEATY! Wedding season is back so there’s some gig updates, find out how George’s gig with Wren went plus how he’s getting on with his new crew job at the Brighton Centre. We find out who won Guess The Tom, who’s Tom Of The Week and what made it into the Drum Dumpster and then for some unknown reason there’s a big old chat about beans on toast and general ‘food admin’. Enjoy!
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This week Ben and George are joined by very special guest Adam Jackson who plays drums for UK metalcore titans, Bury Tomorrow. Having had a somewhat difficult time during the pandemic the band are back bigger and better than ever with their new single ‘Death (Ever Colder)’ and work is already underway on a new album. They chat about how Adam started playing drums and the birth of Bury Tomorrow, artist endorsements, being signed to a major label, recording prep and process, playing live, nerves and the little task of playing the main stage at Download 2022. Enjoy!
Death (Ever Colder) Official Music Video: https://youtu.be/pD_wnhgNnwg
Death (Ever Colder) on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/album/312yRj61uGSmld6RIl9zl4?si=LlmNO2OAS3iwbM2EnCs6nw
Bury Tomorrow: https://www.bury-tomorrow.com/
Natal Artist Playthrough 'Better Below - Bury Tomorrow': https://youtu.be/bMbgKlRSXgw
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Ben and George are back with another special guest in tow. This week the guys had a good chat with Josh Rowe who is a semi-pro (his words) bass player and studio owner about his bands, career and about a particular venue manager who quickly earned the nickname ‘C**todile Dundee’. There’s also Tom Of The Week and a trip into The Drum Dumpster. Enjoy!
Smokestack Studios: https://smokestackstudios.com/
Villennes Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/villennesband/
Villennes 'Deep Red': https://open.spotify.com/album/4qqlCFjETva0oUMnW7QrZP?si=Heg8IuNNRievwLVr5gHU3g
WTS Drums: https://www.welchtuningsystems.com/
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It’s a special episode this week as we welcome our first guest onto the show! Sam Sanders joins us for a chat about his drumming career, how he got started, influences, teaching, performing in panto, first bands, current projects and lots more. There’s also listener emails, Tom Of The Week and find out what made it into The Drum Dumpster. Enjoy!
Sam Sanders: https://www.instagram.com/SamSandersMusic/
Lost In Thought: https://www.instagram.com/lit_band/
Danny McMahon: https://www.instagram.com/dannymcmahonuk/
Hampshire Drum School: http://www.hampshiredrumschool.co.uk
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In this week’s episode Ben and George talk beards due to one of the guys sporting a suspicious looking moustache plus did a picture of Jason Statham make George feel better about going bald? After reading a book about Mozart there's a chat about music tests and auditions. The second half features chats about being a drummer in music videos, Ben’s TV appearance, the Cadbury’s advert plus they take a look at some new gear in the Drum Dumpster. Plus find out who’s this week’s Tom Of The Week. Enjoy!
Elliott Joseph 'Wild Atlantic Heart' music video: https://youtu.be/Ai84g7xZtmQ
Elliott Joseph 'While We're Young' music video: https://youtu.be/YI0_oaOwsOA
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Hello! On this week's show George had a nightmare couple of hours with Covid and his MOT and Ben’s a bit frustrated at work but there’s plenty to talk about; the new Pearl snare drum has arrived, George gets some new gig opportunities (and is too young to remember Saved By The Bell) and find out who is this week’s Tom Of The Week. Plus wedding season is back on with the boys both out gigging this weekend but is Ben looking forward to it?
Pearl Modern Utility Snare Unboxing: https://www.instagram.com/tv/CbIyR9PA6vZ/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link
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In this week’s episode the lads chat about phones, attention spans (you still with us?), the early days of YouTube, getting around London before the iPhone, never switching off from work and we find out what website Ben first visited at an internet cafe in the mid 90s. Plus Tom Of The Week, Ben's favourite video game, George’s drum book collection, drum practice, life mottos and is this the first Drum and Drummer challenge between the guys? Enjoy!
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Welcome to another episode of Drum and Drummer. Ben’s been a bit ill and been to the bank, George ran the Brighton half marathon and had a massage. Nostalgia hits as it’s nearly 20 years since Ben started Uni and will his 19 year undefeated reign at rock, paper, scissors come to an end? Also find out who’s this week’s Tom Of The Week (with a new snazzy jingle) plus lots of talk about snare drums. How big do they go? Enjoy!
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Lots of chat packed into this week's episode. We’ve got a tattoo and The Dent Act updates, Drum Coach Online videos, grade exams, drum notation, tea and coffee, how Johnny ruined the communal squash, touring, desperately needing a piss and a post gig trip to Magaluf. All this plus the start of the new weekly feature; TOM OF THE WEEK!
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In a Drum and Drummer first, George and Ben are together in the same room! It was an early start to the day as the hunt for the Lego Home Alone set was on. Find out if they were successful plus listener emails, roundabouts, George making a big decision, social media and Ben introduces you to Butters and Princess Bean. Plus a look at some odd kits from Pearl and Natal. PROVE US WRONG!
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The first half of episode 12 sees the lads chat mixing, TV shows, the ‘gym geezer’, Blurred Lines, and how they met all those years ago.. The extended second half contains a slightly deeper conversation about careers past and present. Find out what helped Ben leave his cushy office job in London for a life of drumming for scraps and if you’ve ever sold strawberries to a footballer, let us know. Enjoy!
The Old Blacksmiths Studios t-shirt: www.oldblacksmiths.com/shop/t-shirt
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Welcome to episode 11 of Drum and Drummer! George meets the famous Wigman of Brighton, there’s chat about gigs, supermarket trolleys and the end of the world. It’s all light hearted entertainment. The Bald Boys of Drumtown also take a look at the things that keep our drums safe - cases!
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Episode 10! This one’s for the haters. George discusses his recent attempts to learn how to swim before launching into a rant about an evening out at an open mic night. They also take a look at Life On Mars by Davie B and talk about drum parts you don’t play live due to laziness, difficulty or because the band can’t keep in time. All this plus Lego and Sonic The Hedgehog. WHAT MORE DO YOU WANT?
The Dinz: https://open.spotify.com/album/7dk5pFf0bQ2V11DlmqKLjP?si=cqRTZGeGSkWpXzK8wUcAtg
Oxygen Thief ‘I Used To Be Elephants’: https://open.spotify.com/track/07DetH1wVGZ0L5ZZnjjLXC?si=bedb9fd7acac41bc
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How you bin mate? How you wheelie bin? Bin puns for the good. In this week’s thrilling episode Ben and George have some bin and delivery updates, some messages from listeners, talk about rehearsal etiquette (please don’t gob on the floor) and discuss the items in their backpack they just cannot gig without. So pop your tissues and charger in your bag and head on over to Drum and Drummer town.
Check out George drumming with the ever beautiful Elliott Joseph: https://open.spotify.com/artist/0jXVRgxRfMvFysgSc24R9V?si=xsKL9SF0QfiHp0xv2NEFTg
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2022 is here and what better way to get through the first week back at work then listening to Ben and George prattle on about drums and stuff. George got some delightful drumming gifts from Santa (himself) and work has begun on Ben’s new Jurassic Park themed tattoo. There’s also a rumour involving Ben’s old Year 7 music teacher and a discussion on how to learn songs using charts due to the complete inability to commit songs to memory. Enjoy!
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Happy new year! Will this one be any better? Probably not. Well maybe it's time to start fresh and there are few tasks in life that feel as important or as challenging as naming your new band. Enter gently and respectfully into 2022 with Ben and George as they look back in horror at their old band names before examining that all important kick pedal.
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Merry Christmas one and all! The presents are opened, crackers pulled, and the Monopoly board has been flipped in anger. What's next? How about you let the overabundance of food and alcohol fester in your big fat belly and join Ben and George on this extra special Christmas Day episode. They discuss how playing a different instrument can make you a better drummer having recently played a Christmas party gig together. They also chat about the unglamorous yet functional part of your kit; hardware and of course, their ideal food for Christmas day. Did someone say CHEESE IN BLANKETS?!
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As a young drummer, a trip to the recording studio is a day you always look forward to. This week Ben and George discuss drum skins and the pure nostalgia of recording music with their adolescent bands.
Listen to Ben drumming on Tidal Waves by I'm No Chessman: https://open.spotify.com/track/1036ldeOoc8sNFxURPKEDo?si=ff8573d77f3a4e65
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Have you ever had a gig so awful you wished something tragic would happen so you could be airlifted out? Join Ben and George this week as they discuss their worst gig experiences and also delve into which sticks they use.
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Do you remember where you were when you decided you wanted to be a drummer? This week Ben and George discuss their first gig, what made them want to play the drums and how a school friend of Ben’s got the nickname Lumpy...
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Your first drum kit is memorable for so many reasons but mainly because it's rubbish. Join Ben and George in the very first episode of Drum and Drummer as they discuss their first kits, current set up and more.
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