Unravel the captivating journey of recording technology with Jay Petach as your guide, spanning back to the 1800s when pioneers like Thomas Edison introduced groundbreaking inventions like the Phonograph and Edison's Cylinders. Delve into the evolution leading to the revolutionary use of magnetic tape and the advent of computers, propelling us into the era of multi-track recording as we recognize it today.

In this enlightening episode, Jay Petach, a distinguished professor and seasoned audio engineer, offers invaluable insights drawn from his extensive experience. He regales us with anecdotes of the bygone era when drummers were strategically placed in the back of the room for mixing, and recounts the challenges of capturing the full richness of iconic drum kits like Ringo's on rudimentary 2 and 4 track systems.

From the emergence of gates, reverbs, and drum effects to the intricate techniques that have shaped modern recording, Jay's expertise shines through, making this episode a must-watch for both enthusiasts and professionals alike.

Join us as we journey through the annals of recording history, guided by Jay's passion and expertise, in an exploration that promises to both educate and enthrall. Don't miss out on this captivating dive into the art and science of recording!

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Hey everyone! I am launching a temporary bi-weekly show schedule with two new episodes per month. We are currently in the midst of an attic renovation which has bumped me out of my normal Drum History Studio for the next month or two. It has been chaos recently with having a newborn and i've got some new stuff going on with traveling to California for work but this has pushed things a bit over the edge where scheduling has been very tricky.

I think what I am going to do is revert back to my original format from back in 2018 to 2020ish where I released episodes every other week. That will give me a bit of time to get things scheduled and not have to release so many classic "The Vault" episodes.

I plan to do a lot more cool stuff and get back to weekly episodes ASAP. I am also going to be working on a new concept called "10 Minute Biographies" or something along those lines, and spotlight a ton of great drummers with short biographies for YouTube and the podcast.

All that being said, I appreciate everyones support and I am very excited to get a new studio space set up and go full bore with new episodes. So much drum history to still cover!

Thanks everyone!

Ellis Tollin is a world-class performer who played on hit records, started a very successful music store in Philadelphia called Music City, which hosted countless performances by greats such as Louie Bellson, Max Roach, Art Blakey, and many more. Ellis is known as the father of the Drum Clinic, and he was also a close personal friend of Buddy Rich. This episode shines a light on his rise as a performer at the peak of the Jazz explosion, his need to pivot after arthritis made his drumming career come to an end, his involvement with the Rogers Drum Company and the Dyna-Sonic snare, and his passionate feud with William F. Ludwig.

Anthony Amodeo returns to the show this week to share his extensive research that he has done on Ellis Tollin through his connections with the Tollin Family, rare interview clips, and tracking down stories from people who knew Ellis personally.

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Gerry shares with us a list of drums and cymbals that are often overlooked and under-marketed but sound just as good as the equipment that is 10x the price. "Sleeper Gear," by definition, is drum gear that you might not notice at a music store or never even consider trying when, in reality, it sounds great and can be found at a bargain price.

Gerry Porter runs Hazelshould.com and has had thousands of drums and cymbals pass through his hands. He has put together a list of cymbals, snares, and drum sets that he thinks are great-sounding and high-quality gear that most people completely overlook!

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(First Aired Feb 2019) "That Great Gretsch Sound" has been around since 1883, join me as I talk with John Sheridan about the full history of this iconic company! John is an expert on Gretsch and co-wrote "The Gretsch Book" with Rob Cook.

John takes us through the 136 year history with amazing facts and stories and also some information that you won't hear anywhere else!

Here is the timeline on the Gretsch websites I used to follow along with John:

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Jim Gordon went from being the first call drummer of his generation who played on hundreds of hit records, to becoming a victim of the chemicals in his brain that caused him to murder his mother in a schizophrenic episode. Joel Selvin describes his Jim Gordon's life and his book perfectly with this description: "The blazing rock opera of the greatest drummer of all-time, Jim Gordon, from the legendary Wrecking Crew to redefining rock on the Seventies’ biggest hits and outrageous tours, and ultimately to the most shocking crime in rock history—a story of musical genius, uncontrollable madness, and the big fill"

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If you struggle with mental illness, then call 1-800-950-NAMI (6264) for help

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Did you know that Alfred Hitchcock used a drummer on the set of the 1963 classic thriller, 'The Birds'? The real question is: who is this mystery drummer, and how/why did Hitchcock employ a percussionist to perform during the filming of the movie? I have been researching this topic for the last few weeks and have made some amazing discoveries about the on-set drummer, and great information that goes beyond just this topic. Alfred Hitchcock is one of the best filmmakers of all time, and he knew the power that drums can have on people. Find out everything I have learned about it in this episode!

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(Part 2 Covers 1985-2015) Alex Van Halen is responsible for inspiring a generation of young drummers to pick up drumsticks because of his virtuosic playing and HUGE drum sets. Kurt Ekstrom joins us on the podcast to guide us through each and every one of Alex's iconic drum sets and all the accessories and details that make them absolutely one of a kind works of art!

Alex Van Halen's drum sets feature 4 bass drums, fire extinguishers, gas masks, exhaust pipes, and rubber tubes connecting everything together. Does it get any cooler than that? In this episode, Kurt takes us through all the iconic kits that AVH used with Sammy Haggar in the mid 80's including the iconic 5150 set and his Simmons drum sets, through the 90's with Gary Cherone and up to his final performance in 2015.

Alex will always be one of the greatest drummers in the world and his drum sets have inspired millions of musicians around the world.

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The History of WFL Drums - https://youtu.be/9QEJket9eTA?si=cfjq7MDGbqNeD0nz

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(Part 1 covers 1964-1984) Alex Van Halen is responsible for inspiring a generation of young drummers to pick up drumsticks because of his virtuosic playing and HUGE drum sets. Kurt Ekstrom joins us on the podcast to guide us through each and every one of Alex's iconic drum sets and all the accessories and details that make them absolutely one of a kind works of art!

Alex Van Halen's drum sets feature 4 bass drums, fire extinguishers, gas masks, exhaust pipes, and rubber tubes connecting everything together. Does it get any cooler than that? In this episode, Kurt takes us through all the iconic kits that AVH used from his childhood drum set up to the mid-1980s at the last show that Van Halen played with David Lee Roth. Part 2 will pick things up from the mid 80's up to 2015 when Alex hung up his sticks.

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My wife gave birth to a healthy baby boy last week, so enjoy this classic episode from 2020 while I get caught up on next weeks episode!

Andy Zildjian is the president of Sabian Cymbals and takes us on a very fun journey through the history of the company that dates back to its founding in 1981 by his father, Robert Zildjian. This episode features tons of great information about his famous family in general and we discuss the factors that caused the split in the family and become the iconic Sabian cymbals that we know today.

We learn all about how Robert Zildjian founded the company and how much of a visionary he was as a business man and used his international smarts to help Sabian come out of the gate as a major player in the cymbal company in the early 80's. Andy is continuing his fathers legacy by innovating and keeping the company on the cutting edge of cymbal technology.

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Mike Mangini is famous for being an incredibly talented drummer and teacher, but also for creating some of the most elaborate and breathtaking drum sets of all time. He breaks down his first kit, which he used with Extreme, consisting of RotoToms in an 'Apex Shape.' Then, we jump to his 2010s Dream Theater kit, which was a modern marvel of drum set engineering. After that, we discuss his current kit, used for his great new album, 'Invisible Signals,' and learn about the WHY and HOW he creates the design and shape of these kits.

Mike also shares how his passion for science, math and the human brain influences his choices when it comes to building his kits and performing.

Mike will be doing a Masterclass tour across the USA in February and March 2022 - check out his site to learn more about that and all things Mangini!

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Also, check out Mike's album 'Invisible Signs' on all streaming platforms.

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(From March 2020) Gary is a historian and expert on all things Ringo Starr. He has curated Ringo's collection of original Beatles drum kits and is full of great stories about Ringo that you won't hear from anyone else!

We talk about a biography of Ringo, A description of all of his drum sets through the years, and Garys involvement with Ringo and his drums including over 4 million dollars in auction sales from Ringo's collection that Gary curated.

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Nick White has the worlds largest collection of Silent Film Trap instruments, and he recently used them in the Martin Scorsese film, Killers of the Flower Moon. Nick shares some of his favorite instruments and sounds in this episode including automotive, train, animal, impact, and comedy sound effects, plus many more. Nick was on the show over 200 episodes ago and now he is back with more instruments and knowledge than ever before!

This "pre-talkie" period in movie history is fascinating and was a completely different than the world of working drummers we live in now. Each theater would have one (or more) drummers on staff to bring the motion pictures to life, but it all ended in 1927. It is also great to hear Nick discuss his time working on the most recent Martin Scorcese film, Killers of the Flower Moon, which stars Leonardo DiCaprio, Robert De Niro, and the scene Nick is in also features our old friend, Paul Wells.

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Henrique has had a prolific drumming career as a performer, Berklee professor, author, studio musician, clinician, and business owner. In this episode, he teaches us a clear path to create a successful and fulfilling career as working drummers through multiple different outlets. We cover topics such as do you need to read to be a pro drummer? What happens if you don't want to be a teacher? How important is social media to your career? - and much more. Henrique really drives home the importance of working harder than every other drummer because competition is higher than ever, but it is very possible to make a great living as a drummer.

The information that Henrique presents here can really help aspiring drummers make smart decisions in their careers and skip making mistakes that cost them time and money. He is a great drummer and a very good guy who is a teacher at heart!

Henrique runs The Drum Set Coach Academy where he coaches drummers how to lay out a clear path to success and keep them accountable and focused along the way. Learn more at https://www.thedrumsetcoach.com/

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(4/30/2019) Keller has quietly made drum shells for many of the worlds greatest drum brands - learn about how the company got its start in 1946! I talk with Justin Owen, Special Accounts Manager at Keller Products, about how this company has been at the center of the drum universe for over 70 years and managed to remain out of the limelight.

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Thanks to everyone who submitted videos of themselves playing the Drum History Podcast intro music for the 2023 Drum History Intro Challenge to help me celebrate 5 years of the Podcast. We got 33 great submissions from all over the world and they are all unique and sound amazing!

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(Released May 2019) Did Papa Jo Jones invent the Hi-Hat with the help of a plumber? Find out in this episode! Jaz takes us from the beginnings of drumming in Africa through the advent of the modern drum set as we know it today. The amount of different cultures drumming styles that blended together leading up to "double drumming" goes much deeper than I ever thought.

Dr. Jaz Sawyer is a drummer and educator based out of Los Angelas. He has a long history in the music industry and has an enormous knowledge about drumming. Check him out at www.jazsawyer.com

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Paul Wells closes out the 4 part Tony Williams series with a deep dive into TW's legendary cymbals, and his Sticks and Heads. Tony Williams is one of the most iconic drummers of the 20th century, with a meteoric rise from his days with Miles Davis to his Lifetime project, and he became jazz royalty through his tireless pursuit of pushing our instrument to its limits. Tony Williams will always be one of the greatest drummers of all time, and his cymbals are almost as legendary as his playing. However, it wasn't always just the vintage K's or the Gretsch monster kit... We cover every single detail in this 4-part series, from his childhood Slingerland Radio Kings, through his yearly change of Gretsch kits in the 60s, the advent of the big yellow kits, and his transition to DW.

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Scott Garrison was Tony Williams drum tech from 1994 through Tony's passing in 1997. He takes us on a journey through the gear and his experiences with Tony Williams in great detail. Tony Williams is one of the most iconic drummers of the 20th century, with a meteoric rise from his days with Miles Davis to his Lifetime project, and he became jazz royalty through his tireless pursuit of pushing our instrument to its limits. Tony Williams will always be one of the greatest drummers of all time, and his gear is almost as legendary as his playing. However, it wasn't always the big yellow monster Gretsch kit... This episode covers his time with DW Drums, his experimentation with double bass drumming, new cymbals and hardware, and a tons of amazing stories.

Garrison is now a man who wears many hats at DW Drums and has amazing information that covers both the personal side of things with Tony, and many aspects of the gear that you can't hear from anyone else.

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Paul Wells takes us on a journey through the gear of Tony Williams in extreme detail. Tony Williams is one of the most iconic drummers of the 20th century, with a meteoric rise from his days with Miles Davis to his Lifetime project, and he became jazz royalty through his tireless pursuit of pushing our instrument to its limits. Tony Williams will always be one of the greatest drummers of all time, and his gear is almost as legendary as his playing. However, it wasn't always the big yellow monster Gretsch kit... We cover every single detail in this 4-part series, from his childhood Slingerland Radio Kings, through his yearly change of Gretsch kits in the 60s, the advent of the big yellow kits, and his transition to DW. We also cover his cymbals, sticks, heads, and hardware in a later part of the series—the cymbals deserve an entire episode!

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Paul Wells is back on the show to take us on a journey through the gear of Tony Williams in extreme detail. Tony Williams is one of the most iconic drummers of the 20th century, with a meteoric rise from his days with Miles Davis to his Lifetime project, and he became jazz royalty through his tireless pursuit of pushing our instrument to its limits. Tony Williams will always be one of the greatest drummers of all time, and his gear is almost as legendary as his playing. However, it wasn't always the big yellow monster Gretsch kit... We cover every single detail in this 4-part series, from his childhood Slingerland Radio Kings, through his yearly change of Gretsch kits in the 60s, the advent of the big yellow kits, and his transition to DW. We also cover his cymbals, sticks, heads, and hardware in a later part of the series—the cymbals deserve an entire episode!

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(May 2021) Gil is a world renowned drummer who shares his deep passion and knowledge for Reggae drumming in this great episode. He takes us through all the sub genres such as ska, rocksteady, dub, and dancehall. Plus he teaches us about the legends in Reggae drumming such as Lloyd Knibb and Carlton Barrett and the gear that these Jamaican drummers would use when playing with icons such as Bob Marley, Peter Tosh, Lee Perry and many more.

Here is some more info on Gil:

Los Angeles native, Gil Sharone, is highly regarded as one of the most versatile session and touring drummers in the world, who is known for his creativity, authenticity and strong pocket. He is a multiple-time industry award winner as a drummer, but will often wear other hats as a co-writer, producer, and an educator/clinician.

Gil came to notoriety in the rock world as a former member of  The Dillinger Escape Plan, Puscifer, Marilyn Manson, Stolen Babies and Team Sleep. However, he is widely known as an expert in other genres. Reggae, ska and rocksteady were part of his earliest influences along with jazz, funk, hip hop and fusion.

Gil has established himself in the Jamaican drumming styles, authoring an award winning DVD and book entitled Wicked Beats, after playing with legends Eek-A-Mouse, HR of Bad Brains, Dave Wakeling of The English Beat, Fishbone, Western Standard Time Ska Orchestra and more recently with Slightly Stoopid, Morgan Heritage, and his current reggae/dub outfit, Gil, Migs and Rog.

Gil is also an active member of a genre bending music collective, Saudade, where you can hear his jazz fusion collaborations with jazz greats John Medeski, David Torn, Robert Thomas Jr., Dr. Know and Chuck Doom.

Gil’s work further extends into the film/television world, working with composers Tyler Bates and Paul Haslinger. His work can be heard in Deadpool 2, Guardians of The Galaxy 2, all three John Wick movies, The Punisher (Netflix), Kingdom and Stumptown. He has also contributed both as a player and co-writer on the DC Comics: Dark Nights Metal Soundtrack, and his most recent work can be heard in the musical score for the live action Cirque du Soleil show, R.U.N.

David Packouz was the subject of the 2016 film 'War Dogs' (starring Miles Teller and Jonah Hill), which chronicled his incredible experience as a contract gun runner for the US government during the Iraq War. In complete contrast to that, he has more recently created a top-of-the-line drum machine called the Beat Buddy, which captures the feel of a real drummer in a pedal. David shares the story of his wild experiences as a "war dog" and how he made the enormous leap to becoming the inventor of the Beat Buddy.

This is a unique episode that differs from our usual topics, but we hope you enjoy it!

Check out David's website here to see the Beat Buddy and all his products: https://www.singularsound.com/

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Thank you to everyone who has supported the show over the last 5 years! I am excited to announce a project where I am going to make a video showcasing you guys performing the Drum History Podcast Into music. Shoot a video of yourself performing and send me the files to [email protected] by November 7th, 2023 and I will edit everything together! After that date, I will put the link for the video in the description of this video and you can find it on my YouTube channel!

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Rob Cook joins me to discuss all things calfskin drumheads in this interesting and educational episode! We talk about the differences between calfskin and other animal skin heads, the level of durability, how temperature affects them, what happened to the industry when plastic heads came along and much more! Rob Cook is the founder of Rebeats, runs the Chicago Drum Show and is a renowned author and historian.

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Adam Gust teaches us how understanding Neuroscience, The Vegus Nerve, and listening to your body and emotions can help you be a better drummer with less pain and tension in your body. Adam began this quest to combine brain science and drumming after traumatic experience where he lost the ability to play the drums after walking through a plate glass window which shattered all over his hands. He applied what he learned and is now back to drumming better than ever and is on a mission to share this knowledge with the drumming community!

Here are Adams links:

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Sabian Education Network referral link for free access to my workshops with them:

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TED talk:

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and here are some science related Drum History episodes that you may enjoy:

EP 191 - Rhythmic Therapy: Using Drums to Help Kids Through Trauma with Rob Leytham

https://www.drumhistorypodcast.com/post/ep-191-rhythmic-therapy-using-drums-to-help-kids-through-trauma-with-rob-leytham

EP 182 - Biomechanical Drumming with Brandon Green

https://www.drumhistorypodcast.com/post/ep-182-biomechanical-drumming-with-brandon-green

EP 165 - Drums and Ethnomusicology with William Johnson

https://www.drumhistorypodcast.com/post/ep-165-drums-and-ethnomusicology-with-william-johnson

EP 112 - The Science of Why We Love Drums with Dr. Kristen Vogt Veggeberg

https://www.drumhistorypodcast.com/post/ep-112-the-science-of-why-we-love-drums-with-dr-kristen-vogt-veggeberg

EP 83 - The Science and History of Acoustics with Thomas Antoine

https://www.drumhistorypodcast.com/post/ep-83-the-science-and-history-of-acoustics-with-thomas-antoine

EP 10 - Wild Thing: The Study of Rhythm in Animals with Dr. Ed Large

https://www.drumhistorypodcast.com/post/ep-10-wild-thing-the-study-of-rhythm-in-animals-with-dr-ed-large

Gerry Porter deals in the finest drums and cymbals in the world at hazelshould.com, and he shares his immense knowledge of ultra-rare, famous, and valuable cymbals with us in this unique episode! We talk about what makes the Istanbul K's so rare and sought-after, the power of a celebrity owned cymbal (Tony Williams, John Bonham, Roy Haynes), and rare cymbals that aren't just the usual suspects, such as hi-hats, splashes, and crashes that you should be on the hunt for! Gerry also gives us the scoop on what he thinks is the next thing in the drum world that will blow up in value and be a collectors item.

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Released 12/2020 - Orion was a 14 year old drummer boy in the Civil War when he earned the Medal of Honor for an extremely courageous act in battle. Marlene Shares his amazing story that begins when he enters the war at 12 years old through the rest of his life, and the lives of his musical family. We learn all about drummer boys and the role they played in the war, including Johnny Clem - the youngest noncommisioned officer in army history who began as a drummer.

Marlene wrote "Diary of a Drummer Boy" which is Orion's amazing true story written in a diary format. She provides a great perspective on these heroic young drummers and paints a great picture of what life was like for these boys, including playing games on the battle field and putting their lives in danger on a daily basis.

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Mike Clark is one of the most respected jazz, funk, and fusion drummers of the 20th century with his own unique style and approach to the kit. Rob Hart joins me back on the podcast to share recordings of a lesson he took with Mike in 1992 which grew into a 30+ year friendship. We go through 8 clips that were recorded in a San Francisco Apartment with a mix of Mike Clark and Rob Hart playing which makes this a very fun and interesting episode!

Here is a link to the previous episode with Rob Hart where we look at his lessons with Steve Smith: https://youtu.be/x1VhErqph_Y

Mike Clark and Paul Jackson funk video that I mentioned: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=79i1CVlC6K8

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Rob Hart's YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/@robharttrio

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(Released 2019) Herbie is a 32 year veteran of the Remo Company and shares the full history of the company with us, including the controversial debate between Evans and Remo and who was first to invent the synthetic drumhead. Remo is one of the most famous names in drums and it all stems back to one man, Remo Belli. Herbie was good friends with Remo and worked closely with throughout his career and shares many stories that come straight from Remo himself.

We discuss the origins of synthetic heads and the trials and tribulations that faced that process, the introduction of C.S. Dot heads, Sparkletone heads, Remo Drumsets, RotoToms, World Percussion and a whole lot more. Herbie May has been there for the invention of many of these innovations and gives us a rare behind the scenes look at everything Remo!

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In part 2, Chris and I take a deep dive into each and every kit that Lars used from the iconic Black Album Artstar II kit up to todays yellow StarClassics for the 72 Seasons tour, and everything in between. We discuss his major changes in gear including the shrinking of his kit and him getting rid of the mega power tom kits for the modern StarClassics. Part 2 covers from 1990 through to today and we touch on many aspects of his earlier kits that weren't mentioned in part 1. Lars Ulrich and Metallica are hard rock icons and this deep dive gear episodes will give you an even greater appreciation of one of the most famous drummers in history!

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Chris and I take a deep dive into each and every kit that Lars used since he was a little kid and received mix and match kit from his Grandmother, up to the iconic Justice tour kit with the monkey strapped to the front from 1988. We discuss his sticks, heads, pedals, hardware, and each and every drum set including the Camco's that got stolen! Part 1 covers from the beginning through the 80's, and Part 2 will pick up with the 90's through to today. Lars Ulrich and Metallica are hard rock icons and this deep dive gear episodes will give you an even greater appreciation of one of the most famous drummers in history!

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Philly Joe Jones is an icon of jazz drumming who is most famous for his time with Miles Davis and his unique style of soloing and swinging that has made him one of the most respected drummers of the 20th century. Tim Carman is the author of "Philly-ISM" which breaks down the style and essence of Philly Joe Jones at its most basic form, so you can learn to play like the master himself!

Tim is an author, educator, and performer with the great band GA-20. This is the second book in his "Isms" series, the first was about Roy Haynes, and he is doing a great service to the community by breaking down the style of these legendary players.

Check out everything Tim Carman has released via his website at https://timcarmandrums.com/

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Gene Krupa's 1954 Slingerland Radio King drum set was recently discovered and rescued from sitting in a wet basement for the last few decades via an online auction that caught the drum world by storm. I am joined today by the winner of this iconic set, Steve, and GK authentication expert, Brooks Tegler, to hear the full story of this legendary kit. This drum set was featured on the cover of the Drummin' Men book, the Krupa and Rich album, it was used in The Benny Goodman Story Film, and was used by Gene extensively around the world for 3 years!

This drum set is as iconic as it gets and is possibly the last full Gene Krupa drum set to be found. Enjoy this incredible piece of history and thanks to Brooks and Steve for sharing this story with me!

Here are Brooks' other episodes and YouTube videos that he has done with me:

• "Whats wrong with the Gene Krupa Story (YouTube only): https://youtu.be/E9wbyrzRs7Q

• EP84 The Ultimate Gene Krupa Gear Guide with Brooks Tegler: https://www.drumhistorypodcast.com/post/ep-84-the-ultimate-gene-krupa-gear-guide-with-brooks-tegler

• EP 14 - Discovering Gene Krupa's Lost Drum Collection with Brooks Tegler: https://www.drumhistorypodcast.com/post/ep-14-discovering-gene-krupa-s-lost-drum-collection-with-brooks-tegler

• EP 7 - Gene Krupa: The Father of Modern Drumming with Brooks Tegler: https://www.drumhistorypodcast.com/post/ep-7-gene-krupa-the-father-of-modern-drumming-with-brooks-tegler

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Ebenor Percussion is a Quebec based drum brand that makes everything from the Lugs to the hoops to the shells in-house! William Leclerc started Ebenor Drums 10 years ago and has grown it to be one of the most well respected names in the world of boutique drums. He started the brand when he was just 21 years old and has climbed his way up the ladder to being an extremely respected builder of wood and metal drums with some of the best looking snares on the market. This is a great story of how hard work and dedication pays off and is a really neat look at drums that are made proudly in Canada!

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This is a 5 person mega episode all about the history of Simmons Drums, the iconic hexagonal electronic drums that changed the face of music in the 1980's. The sound, look and spirit of Simmons drums can be heard on most every recording of the 1980's across all genres including rock, pop, rap, metal, and everything in between!

My guests include two of the original employees of the company: Steve Watts and Pat Casey, The author of "The Complete Simmons Drum Guide": Steve Graham, a master restorer of high level Simmons Drums: The Simmons Guy aka Ed Rose, and Daren Pfeifer who is a Simmons enthusiast and collector and helped to arrange this entire episode.

Learn even more at www.simmonsmuseum.com and here is the facebook Simmons group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/203518359856348

Here are eveneryones links and social media handles:

Daren Pfeifer - www.pfeiferdrumco.com and @darenpfeifer on IG

Ed Rose / The Simmons Guy - https://thesimmonsguy.com/ and @thesimmonsguy on IG

Here is Steve Grahams Simmons Book: https://amzn.to/3KlTKzy

Steve Watts Big D Studios - http://bigdstudios.co.uk/

(EP 80 - 12/2020) Cocktail drum kits date back to post World War 2 in an orchestra pit in England where space is at a premium and the drums needed to grow taller, as opposed to wider. the "stand up drum set" evolved from there and became a staple of jazz lounges, street performers, comedy acts and many great drummers who wanted a unique look and feel to the drums they play.

John Mettam is the founder of cocktaildrum.com and a longtime performer and cocktail kit enthusiast. He shares the full story of these iconic drum sets with us year by year as we go through the catalogs of Slingerland, Gretsch, Leedy, Rogers, and Ludwig. This is a great history filled episode with tons of fun stories throughout.

follow along at www.cocktaildrum.com under the catalogs tab

Enjoy this episode!

Rob Hart was fortunate enough to take lessons with the great Steve Smith for over 20 years and he recorded many of them on his Sony Walkman or Steve's studio rig! Rob shares 7 great clips from his lessons with Steve Smith that cover things such as playing in odd time signatures, perfecting your hi-hat foot, maximizing time on your drum set and much more! Rob Hart has taken lessons with many great players and we will cover more on future episodes of this mini-series, but this particular episode gives you a glimpse of what it was like to take lessons with Steve Smith at his personal recording studio in the mid 1980's!

Check out Rob Harts Drum Studio on his website: https://www.robhartdrumstudio.com/

Rob Hart's YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/@robharttrio

Here is Steve Smith's website: https://www.vitalinformation.com/

Steve Smith on YouTube:https://www.youtube.com/@SteveSmithChannel

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Independent Drum Lab has become one of the most innovative brands in the drum industry since its launch in 2015. Josh Allen used his Industrial Design Degree at Ludwig to create many innovative designs and products, but he then decided he wanted to go off on his own and create INDē Drums. This is a an interesting episode with a unique point of view from a truly innovative person in our industry.

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John Densmore of The Doors is truly a drumming icon of the 1960's and his Ludwig Mod Orange Drum Set is just as important in the history of Rock and Roll. My guest is Kurt Ekstrom who is a diehard fan of Densmore and also extremely passionate and knowledgable about Mod Orange drums. This episode is both a look at John Densmore's life and career with The Doors and a deep dive into his drum gear. We talk various drum kits, cymbals, hardware, heads and everything along the way including Kurts hunt for what happened to the famous Mod Orange drum set!

Did you know John Densmore never changed his Mod Orange floor tom head throughout his entire career!?

Here is Kurts article for Not So Modern Drummer about the hunt for the kit: https://www.notsomoderndrummer.com/not-so-modern-drummer/tag/Ludwig+Mod+Orange

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Alfonso created and shipped the first "Acoustically Formatted Electronic Drum Kits" in 1991 which was a game changer in the electronic drum world, and helped shaped the e-drum industry since then. He has been a staple of the drum industry for over 30 decades, but flys under the radar as much of the work he has done involves triggering the drums for some of the biggest names int he drum industry. What you see on stage might not be what you are actually hearing! Al talks all about that process and many of his patents and innovations in the world of electronic drums. Al is full of interesting stories and is a very cool guy that I think everyone will learn a lot from his incredible experiences!

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Here is the video Al made about his snare he is raffling off for the Ukrainian relief auction: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m21yu7BpuQ8

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We live in a golden era where independent cymbal makers are creating more beautiful instruments than ever before. Timothy Roberts joins me this week to share his take on the landscape of indie Cymbalsmith's and gives us tons of great information on the the background of the current indie movement, the difference between makers, what you should be looking and listening for in a boutique cymbal, the art of modifying existing cymbals, and tons of other great info.

Tim runs Timothy Roberts Cymbals, Stack Ring Percussion, and Revere Drums where he produces very high quality instruments for people all over the world.

Check him out on YouTube here:https://www.youtube.com/@UCXzIQRAiEnG_kWZ2iMSwGkA

and his website: https://reveriedrums.com/

Here is the video I mentioned about Spizzichino by Alex Healey: https://vimeo.com/2025459

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Here are some links provided by Tim:

https://reverb.com/news/the-worlds-most-coveted-cymbals-remembering-robert-spizzichino (great article on Spizz)

https://vimeo.com/2025459 (Spizz documentary)

https://cymbalutopia.com/www.cymbalutopia.com/Craig_Lauritsen_Custom_Cymbals.html (Craig Lauritsen website, full of great cymbal smithing info)

https://www.patreon.com/collingwoodcymbals/posts (Dave's patron for training cymbal smiths of all skill sets)

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The history of bass drum head art dates back over a century ago when pipe bands would paint the name of their town and group on the calf skin head. This evolved over time with beautifully painted scenic paintings that were sold directly from the major manufacturers in catalogs, then drummers began adding initials and band names to the heads and the rest is history!

Dominic Tancredi and Luke Condrich join us from Woodshed Stage Art to give us a very detailed look at how bass drum art has evolved since the 1920's through all the decades up to today. We talk about how Gene and Buddy made the shield logo iconic, how Ringo's Beatle head made history, and then the era of stickers and modern digital printing.

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Part 2 covers the cymbal series including the 602's, Giant Beats, 2002, 404, 505, Signature, and many more. We discuss the USA and European distributors of Paiste Cymbals, plus the more affordable lower line cymbals that are still collectible and cymbal care and cleaning.

Dan Garza isa die hard Paiste enthusiast and the moderator of the Paiste section on Cymbal.Wiki. Here are the links provided by Dan for more Paiste information:

Dan's channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCV5P6pbrDcLUXs4y3KSK8EA

Paiste Cymbals

https://www.facebook.com/paistecompany

Paiste Cymbals New and Vintage

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Paiste vintage cymbals

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Paiste Wiki Fans of the World

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Paiste Sound Creation & SC ND & FO 602

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Paiste 2002

https://www.facebook.com/groups/57292836702/

Paiste Giant Beats, Dixies, 4o4s, Stambuls, Ludwig Standards

https://www.facebook.com/groups/575719383757754

Paiste 505

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Paiste 3000 Cymbals and Hihats

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Pat Petrillo shares tons of great info including what it is like to be featured on the cover of Modern Drummer, his Instagram series about breaking down actual sticking of Ringo's parts, and we discuss his great new album, "The Power Station Sessions". Pat also gives us a history lesson on the nuances and differences between R&B and Funk drumming and we discuss some of the great products that he has developed for our industry over the years!

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This episode is a deep dive into the nuances of collecting Vintage Paiste Cymbals with Dan Garza, a die hard Paiste enthusiast and the moderator of the Paiste section on Cymbal.Wiki. We cover everything from the different alloys that are used in production, the variations in serial numbers, production techniques, and all the cymbal lines up to the 70's (that will continue on in part 2). Dan also talks a lot about what makes Paiste so special and different from the other major cymbal manufacturers and why some lines have become so extremely valuable over the years. Stay tune for Part 2!

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Dan's channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCV5P6pbrDcLUXs4y3KSK8EA

Paiste Cymbals

https://www.facebook.com/paistecompany

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https://www.facebook.com/groups/185747971524740

Paiste vintage cymbals

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Paiste Wiki Fans of the World

https://www.facebook.com/groups/1625307324174814

Paiste Sound Creation & SC ND & FO 602

https://www.facebook.com/groups/1708983262518911

Paiste 2002

https://www.facebook.com/groups/57292836702/

Paiste Giant Beats, Dixies, 4o4s, Stambuls, Ludwig Standards

https://www.facebook.com/groups/575719383757754

Paiste 505

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Anthony has been on a mission to discover as much as he can on the history of the legendary Covington era of Rogers Drums! Anthony and his Rogers friends are using state of the art techniques to test the species of each ply on various shells to determine the make up of the shells, and he is utilizing the research that the generation before him has compiled. This has allowed him to put together a comprehensive look at the Rogers drums that were made in the small town of Covington, Ohio between 1954 and 1968. This small town was producing some of the finest drums in the world at this point and was beloved by some of the greatest players in the world such as Buddy Rich and Louie Bellson!

Here is a link to the episode about the history of Rogers Drums with Po Shy and Jeff Burke : https://youtu.be/93bfAD5w7Vo

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Vincent gives us a deep dive into the history of the American made Zildjian Cymbals from 1929 up through the 1990s. We talk about all the various stamps through he generations that can be used to identify vintage A. Zildjian cymbals, along with notes on the hammering, lathing, and bell size that can help you determine collectibility and value of a vintage Zildjian cymbal. Vincent shares his 9 step process of determining if a cymbal is a good purchase which includes everything from the shape of the cymbal to the source you purchase it from, and everything in between.

We touch a little bit on the Turkish made K. Zildjians, but more info will come on that down the road!

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Enjoy this classic episode from 2020! We are lead to believe that the bass drum pedal was invented in the USA, and that the drum set as we know it today was first created in the states - but Fritz shares examples that show many revolutionary drum inventions that were first created in Europe. We also discuss brands like Sonor, Trixon, Paiste, plus drumming and drum building in communist countries and many other great facts and stories along the way.

Fritz is a veteran in the drum industry and has owned and operated DrumHouse Freiberg since 2001 in Germany. He brings a very unique knowledge base to the show and shares lots of information that I have never heard anywhere else. Check out the DrumHouse here: https://www.drumhouse.com/

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(Part 3) Paul Wells is a Professor of Jazz Drums at Juilliard and he is also a fanatical fan of Neil Peart and his drum sets. This is part 3 of a 3 part series that covers all of the drums, cymbals, hardware, heads, and percussion that helped Neil Peart be one of the best drummers in history. This episode covers Neil's switch to DW drums, his work with Freddie Gruber, his switching to Roland V-Drums and the many iconic kits that were from the last part of his career!

I hope you guys like Part 3 about Neil Peart's drums!

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and find him on social media at @paulwellsdrums

Check out these episodes on YouTube here:

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Rob Birenbaum is the founder of Drum Headquarters in St. Louis, MO and HQ Percussion, which famously produced the iconic RealFeel practice pads and Sound Off drum mute pads. This is a great story of how Rob started as a salesman/drum teacher at a local Missouri drum shop and took that knowledge and created his own shop which became a dominate force in his area, and became the top Tama dealer in the state in the 1980's. Rob then took advantage of a business deal that made him the owner of what became RealFeel practice pads. It was not an easy road though, Rob had to spend lots of money and time to get the pad dialed in to be what became the famous octagonal pad. He later sold the company to D'Addario and learned many valuable lessons about business.

Rob joined me for an extra Patreon Bonus Episode that is hands down one of my favorites so far, it is an extra 25 minute conversation that is an incredible story about Rob's time in Japan at the Yamaha factory on what happened to be Sept 11th, 2001. Join up and hear this and many other bonus episodes at www.patreon.com/drumhistorypodcast

(Part 2) Paul Wells is a Professor of Jazz Drums at Juilliard and he is also a fanatical fan of Neil Peart and his drum sets. This is part 2 of a 3 part series that covers all of the drums, cymbals, hardware, heads, and percussion that helped Neil Peart be one of the best drummers in history. This episode covers Neil's introduction to electronic drums that he used with the Tama Candy Apple Red Kit and throughout his career, his love of samples, his evolving Ludwig white, blue, and black kits, and info on his personal small Gretsch kit he used at home - and much more!

I hope you guys like Part 2 about Neil Peart's drums - Stay tuned for Part 3.

Here is Paul's YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/@paulwells2227

and find him on social media at @paulwellsdrums

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Paul Wells is a Professor of Jazz Drums at Juilliard and he is also a fanatical fan of Neil Peart and his drum sets. This is part 1 of a 3 part series that covers all of the drums, cymbals, hardware, heads, and percussion that helped Neil Peart be one of the best drummers in history. This episode covers Neil's very first drum set as a child, up through his iconic Candy Apple Red Tama kit that became famous as a banner hanging on drummers walls around the world.

I hope you guys like this mega deep dive into Neil Peart's drums!

Here is Paul's YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/@paulwells2227

and find him on social media at @paulwellsdrums

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The list of legendary drummers that played with the late Wayne Shorter is absolutely incredible. Mark Griffith takes us through each album and stage in Waynes career and which iconic drummer was involved at any given time. Just to name a few, he played with people such as Art Blakey, Tony Williams, Jack DeJohnette, Elvin Jones, Ndugu Chancler, Peter Erskine, Bryan Blade, Jeff Porcaro and that is just barely scratching the surface. Mark is the Editor in Chief and Director of Content/Education for Modern Drummer and he has tons of great first hand experiences with many of these drummers who all held Wayne Shorter in the highest regard possible.

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*The Questlove documentary I was talking about is called "Summer of Soul" from 2021

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(This is EP49 from May, 2020) We learn the role of drummers in the Military and the purpose they served as a form of communication and a way to keep the troops unified during battle starting with the US Colonies through to the Revolutionary War. Then we take a deep dive into the Civil War and learn all about the importance of the Fife and Drum Corp on both sides in the extremely bloody war that divided the country.

Patrick Jones is a Fife and Drum Corps expert and regularly performs with Camp Chase Fifes and Drums at events all over the country. He also restores rope tension snare drums to exact detail. Patrick is a 5th grade history teacher and he does a great job of explaining all of these details so that people of any knowledge level of US History can understand this and learn a lot about Military drumming.

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A big thank you to Mark Robertson for connecting Patrick and I and being a Patron of the show and a good friend!

Bob Cianci, the author of "The Great Rock Drummers of the Sixties," takes us on a trip down memory lane to explore the iconic drummers who revolutionized the sound of rock music in the 1960s. Through fascinating anecdotes and historical insights, Cianci shares his personal experiences and extensive research on drumming legends such as Ringo Starr, Keith Moon, Charlie Watts, and many others. I gained a newfound appreciation for the crucial role that drummers played in shaping the sound and culture of rock music during this transformative decade from this great conversation with Bob Cianci!

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Bruce Becker has written a brand new book that takes the iconic "Progressive Steps to Syncopation for the Modern Drummer" by Ted Reed to the next level and gives Bruce's signature teaching approach to one of the top selling drum books of all time. Bruce's new book is called "The Ultimate Guide to Syncopation: Concepts for the Development of Motion, Melody, and Independence. Bruce starts the conversation by reminiscing about his former teacher Freddie Gruber, and then we dig into the Why, What and How of creating his book and accompanying videos.

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Jared Falk is the founder of Drumeo which has grown to be one of the top platforms for online education in the world. Drumeo is not only a great source of online education on drumeo.com, but the brand is also a giant across social media and YouTube as with millions of subscribers and followers. Drumeo has changed the way online lessons are presented and is responsible for creating countless new drummers which helps our entire industry grow. Jared and I discuss his early beginnings with filming lessons on his families farm, utilizing the internet to sell lessons on eBay, and then taking full advantage of YouTube to explode onto the scene and become the Drumeo we know today.

Jared is now the Founder and Chairman of Musora Inc. which is the parent company to Drumeo, Guitario, Pianote, and Singeo. He is a wealth of information on not only drumming, but also how to succeed in business.

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Rob Leytham uses Neuro-Rhythmic Trauma Therapy to help children regulate their emotions with the power of drumming. He uses brain science and his 35 years of drum teaching skills to help kids avoid the normal punishments and suspensions that they would normally face. Not only is his classroom full of Djembes and percussion instruments, but Rob's passion has spread to the entire faculty at Ridgeview where many teachers use percussion to help calm troubled students and the impact has been enormous. Rob has now expanded to traveling around the country to speak about the power of drumming to help regulate kids who need help.

Rob has written 10 books and 20 articles on drumming for major publications. His latest Book/ Music is titled: "The Feeling is Bright: Self Regulation through Rhythm and Rhyme. 

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ASBA Drums is an iconic French drum brand that dates back to 1927 with a very interesting history. Damo and Saúl share the full story of this brand which began as just an accessory company, and grew to be a fully formed drum brand that made literally everything in house. They created drum heads, they had a foundry and made all the hardware and metal drum shells and the wood shells and everything else along the way. The company had a great long run but unfortunately went out of business in the 1980's. Fortunately though, the brand is back alive as of 2017 with a whole new lease on life and is making the same great quality drums that they are known for, including the iconic Caroline bass drum pedal.

Learn more at www.asbadrums.com

Here is a direct link to the timeline I spoke about in the episode: https://www.asbadrums.com/gb/timeline

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Sahir aka Sai teaches us the process of building drum shells from foraging for the perfect tree in the forest all the way to processing the ply's to create beautiful drum shells. We talk about the modern technology that is used to create sturdy and dependable shells that our drum building ancestors only dreamed about and much much more. Not only does Sai create beautiful drums for some of the biggest names in drumming, he is has a successful career as a tour director and production manager for major world wide productions.

Check out Masters of Maple at www.mdrums.com

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JP Bouvet takes us on a deep dive into the concept of improvising on the drum kit. We discuss things like how to practice improvisation, the misconceptions that come with it, how you can break out of your "go-to beats" and much more! JP is a monster player very well respected teacher who has built his brand around the importance of improvising on the drum kit and entering the flow mode.

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Eric Sooy founded Black Swamp Percussion nearly 30 years ago and has built the brand from the ground up by creating extremely high quality orchestral and band percussion instruments. Eric teaches me the nuance that goes into creating tambourines for orchestras and the differences between that and a traditional drum set tambourine, plus we also discuss what makes an orchestral snare special for that type of music and much more! I really enjoyed hearing Eric discuss the ups and downs and risks that go into starting a business and how he has put together a team that creates some of the finest instruments in the world out of his shop in Holland, Michigan.

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David Frangioni, CEO of Modern Drummer, makes an exclusive announcement about the future of Modern Drummer right here on Drum History! Not only do we learn about the exciting news, we also get an update on what has been happening with the magazine since the Frangioni family took things over in February 2020, just weeks before the pandemic changed the world forever, and how this has shaped the exciting new plans for the magazine. David then takes us through his life which began with eye cancer as a child and his persistent rise to the top in the fields of music, technology, and collecting. This is a really good one that is full of great information!

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and here is the link for The Quiet Riders new album with Josh Kanusky on drums. This is available on all platforms - here is spotify: https://open.spotify.com/album/5IuDANYE4MlGC5rCM6aDUw?si=Zq_PpDj9T064qcnutllaRA

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Earl Bennett has been a collector and enthusiast of US drum magazines for the last 40+ years and he shares his vast knowledge of known magazines like Modern Drummer, Drum!, and Rhythm plus other lesser known ones like Traps, Classic Drummer, and Talking Drum. We discuss the many different styles and variations of magazines through the years and how they had to pivot in the digital age to stay alive as long as they could. As of 2023, physical drum magazines have become few and far between but will always be an important part of drum history.

Earl has a great YouTube channel where he hosts interviews, plays covers, and discusses this collection. Check him out and be sure to subscribe to keep up with Earl. Check him out here: https://www.youtube.com/@earldrum

Here is his the video that Earl originally made that prompted this episode: https://youtu.be/7C1P883X6LE

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Eric Leiderman is a producer of NBC's Late Night with Seth Meyers and is the man behind the rotating drummer program which has given drummers of all styles the chance to perform with the 8G band on national American television. The 8G Band is the house band for Late Night with Seth Meyers and the band is led by Fred Armisen (Saturday Night Live, Portlandia, Wednesday). Due to Fred Armisens extremely busy schedule, the 8G band has a roster of all star drummers who take turns performing with the group. Some of the drummers who have played with the 8G Band include Brad Wilk, Chad Smith, Josh Freese, Matt Cameron and many many more monster players. Together, these artists bring a wide range of experience and expertise to the band, and their contributions have helped bring drummers to the national stage on a weekly basis.

Eric has a background as a touring drummer and as a TV comedy writer for many years and is full of great information and stories. If you have ever thought about sitting in with the 8G Band, this is a good starting point - Eric gives the info on what is needed and how to get in touch with him.

Be sure to tune in to Late Night with Seth Meyers in January 2023 to see Danny Carey, Dan Fang, Maya Stepansky, and Fred Armisen.

Enjoy this episode!

This weeks episode is a classic episode from 2020 featuring Jerry Granelli, who was the drummer for the iconic "A Charlie Brown Christmas" soundtrack. Jerry passed away in July, 2021 so I am very grateful to have spent this time with him. He shares the story of the writing and recording of the album and great info on the creation of the TV special. He tells us about how he wanted nothing to do with Charlie Brown for 30 years, until he came to the realization that he has made millions of happy people and he should embrace it. We also hear the full story of his illustrious career and his background in drumming.

Happy holidays and enjoy this episode!

Howie Stulberg worked for Buddy Rich as his roadie/assistant when he was 21 years old in 1978 and had the time of his life for 2 years. He shares great stories of how some days he and Buddy would be drinking malts and going to baseball games, but and other days if you caught Buddy in the wrong mood - he would give you a piece of his mind and fire you on the spot. Howie discusses a day in the life with Buddy, Performing on Johnny Carson, and the famous Buddy Rich Rant tapes (which Howie was present for the recording). Howie was Buddy Rich's right hand man and would carry everything for him so all Buddy had to worry about was being the worlds best drummer.

This episode is done with 100% respect for Buddy and I hope everyone enjoys it!

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Brandon teaches us the importance of using ergonomics to set up your drum set and perform in a correct way that allows you to drum for the rest of your life without any pain. He uses many great scientific examples of ways to improve upon the common mistakes that drummers make which leads to pain in our necks, backs, shoulders, and wrists. We also discuss how some of the greats like Phil Collins and Neil Peart were so negatively affected by back pain that they were forced to stop performing and how players like Lars Ulrich and Travis Barker have seemed to slip by without harm on ergonomically harmful drum setups. Enjoy this episode!

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Jeremy and Max discuss cutting their teeth with OCDP, the origins of Q Drum Co., and also Jeremy's recent heroic battle with stomach cancer that has brought his career as a successful drum tech to a halt while he recovers. The silver lining is that this has brought the drum community together to rally around Jeremy like never before to get him back on his feet. Jeremy Berman and Max Cuzor have built drum kits for some of the biggest drummers in the world, and Jeremy has been a tech with bands such as Slipknot, Muse, Norah Jones, Nine Inch Nails, Katy Perry and many more. This episode is a very special one and I hope everyone enjoys it!

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Was there anything cooler than a brand new gigantic Power Tom Drum Set in the 1980's? The answer is a no! Kyle Schneider is a power tom enthusiast who has put together a great history of this iconic type of drum set that has got a large and passionate following. Kyle is a listener of the podcast who took it upon himself to do the research and put together an episode that would explain the origin story of Power Toms! We talk about the genesis of power toms, famous brands and models, the current status of power tom drum sets and players, and we talk about Kyles dream set that he had built after years of saving. Enjoy this episode!

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This episode is an in-depth look at John Bonham's drum kits, cymbals, heads, and sticks through his prolific career with Led Zeppelin. Terry Keating (Bonzoleum) and George Fludas (Bonhamology) are experts on all things Bonzo and made this episode a ton of fun and very informative. We start with his rusty old Premier kit, then go through his Trixon and Slingerland sets, then go into extreme detail about his iconic Ludwig drum sets and Paiste cymbals. John Bonham lived a very short 32 year life but has a HUGE impact on musicians still to this day - enjoy this deep dive into his gear!

Check out this interview on YouTube with tons of great photos of each kit: https://youtu.be/UGIb1GPB1yk

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Barry James has just released a book that he co-wrote with Joe Morello all about how to count the famous "Stick Control" book from 1935. This book is the top selling drum lesson book of all time, and majority of the teachers throughout history haven't known how to properly count this book of R's and L's. Joe Morello and Barry were both students of George Lawrence Stone and they were working hard to keep Stone's lessons alive until Joe passed away in 2011. Barry carried on and took all the knowledge he gained from Stone and his time writing with Morello, and created "Counting Stick Control - The Key to Understanding Counting, and Playing the Exercises in 'Stick Control', The Classic Drum Method Book by George Lawrence Stone".

Here is a link to help support Barry with his cancer treatments: https://www.gofundme.com/f/6azpf3-help-barry-beat-cancer

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This is a great classic episode from Dec 2019 - Bernie purchased the original Slingerland radio frequency drum shell making machinery on an Ebay auction in 2001, and that began his decade long quest to figure out how they work. He went through hundreds of attempts to figure out how these incredibly complex machines created drum shells before he got help from from Jack Moritz, a former Slingerland employee who ran the machines for 22 years. Once that happened, Bernie was off and running and making drum shells in under 5 minutes under his new company, Stone Custom Drum.

Learn all about how Radio Frequencies we're used to create drum shells, and also we discuss the recent acquisition of Slingerland by DW, plus tons of other great stories along the way.

Stone Custom Drum has Slingerland in its DNA, but is its own brand that creates beautiful, one of a kind drums. You can check them out at www.stonecustomdrum.com.

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Orange County was one of the most popular drum brands in the world in the early 2000's, and I am joined today by Corey Manske and Nick Turner who were some of the original builders during the heyday. Jarrod Fallon is a restorer and buff on all things OCDP and he co-hosts the episode with me. This is a follow up to the first Orange County episode with Jarrod and Michael Kelley and we answer tons of great questions that were submitted by fans of the brand. This is a fun one with a bunch of great behind the scenes stories that makes you feel like you are a part of the original crew building one of a kind drums for greats like Travis Barker, John Otto, Adrien Young, Chad Sexton and many more.

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Robert Cataliotti is a music historian, critic, and educator and co-curator of the Drumsville! Evolution of the New Orleans Beat exhibit at the New Orleans Jazz Museum. Bob also wrote the companion book to the exhibit that is a great historical look at the birthplace of Jazz. Bob does a great job in this episode describing the history and importance of the African culture that was at the core of the birth of Jazz and the New Orleans sound at Congo Square, and the famous players from originators like Baby Dodds up to Herlin Riley and Stanton Moore, and much more!

I have been to the Drumsville! exhibit at the New Orleans Jazz Museum in 2019 and it is a must see for all drummers. I also highly recommend the great Drumsville! book that Bob authored and discusses in this episode.

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-Here is EP 38 of the podcast "New Orleans Jazz History with Stanton Moore, Walter Harris, Joe Lastie, and Greg Lambousy": https://www.drumhistorypodcast.com/post/ep-38-new-orleans-jazz-history-with-stanton-moore-walter-harris-joe-lastie-and-greg-lambousy

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Keith Moon is one of the most explosive drummers in the history of Rock and Roll. This episode is an in-depth look at the short life of this incredible musician who packed more of the good, bad, and ugly bits of life into 32 years than anyone else. Tony Fletcher is the author of the definitive Moon biography and takes us from Keith's post-war upbringing in bombed out England, through his rise as a gigging drummer around the pubs, to his rise to extreme fame and untimely death in 1978. We cover the fun and cheeky "Moon the Loon" stories about his hotel room antics and automotive shenanigans, but also the very dark and sad side of his life which included depression, addiction, domestic violence, and his overdose.

Check out this episode on YouTube to see lots of great Moon photos and videos of him and The Who: https://youtu.be/UQAG_p0Z-x4

Here is the BBC Keith Moon biography I reference in this episode: https://youtu.be/6hM72cP4IzA

Here is a link to Tonys great Keith Moon book: https://amzn.to/3s1zKZo

Keep up with Tony Fletcher at www.tonyfletcher.net and be sure to listen to his podcast and check out all his other great books.

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Mario DeCiutiis is not only the co-creator of KAT Percussion who made the iconic MalletKAT, but he also played vibes at Radio City Music Hall for almost 40 years! We learn all about the process of developing an innovative E-Percussion instrument WAY early in the advent of electronic instruments and how that morphed over time to become a staple in the industry. Mario is full of stories and experiences from starting a business and being licensed and sold around to a number of larger companies and remaining the constant that keeps people buying his great product.

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Jim Uding describes Dixon as "the best kept secret in drums" and I completely agree after hearing the history of this unique company! Dixon is the house-brand of a very well established manufacturer in Taiwan that has created drums or hardware for most all of the major players in the drum industry since the late 1970's. We discuss the launch of the relatively new Dixon brand, the partnership with drum legend, Gregg Bissonette, and a few of the partnerships that the factory has had with the largest names in drums. Not much is known about Dixon as you search around the internet so this is a great opportunity to learn more about this brand that is absolutely on the rise.

Jim Uding is the brand Manager of Dixon at St. Louis Music

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Mike and I start by discussing the DW/Roland acquisition that has been on everyones mind since it was recently announced. He uses his industry experience and knowledge to shine some light on what might be happening with this shocking announcement that took the drum world by storm. We then go through some historical examples of what happened to the big four drum brands (Gretsch, Ludwig, Slingerland, and Rogers) and hear about the ups and many downs of those acquisitions. Mike was the managing editor of Modern Drummer for many years and is now the Chief Creative Officer at Drum Factory Direct.

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Dom Famularo teaches us about Billy Gladstone, Sanford A, Moeller, and George L. Stone - the godfathers of drumming technique. He also shares many great stories from his journey through learning from the students of these great teachers including Shelly Manne, Jim Chapin, and Joe Morello. The lineage of educators that run from these three men runs so much deeper than I ever imagined.

This episode features one of my favorite Buddy Rich stories that I have ever heard. Dom got to hang out with Buddy and learn about his background as a young Vaudevillian who was on the road with Moeller, Stone, and Gladstone.

Dom is known as "Drummings Global Ambassador" and he does that name justice. He can be found at any given time performing clinics around the world and spreading the love of drums to everyone he meets.

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Hal Blaine is one of the most recorded drummers in history and is an icon from the golden age of session musicians. We learn about Hals parents heroic journey to America, Hal's early years and time in the Army, and his meteoric rise as a first call studio drummer. Mike Megaffin's business card says "Hal Blaine Disciple" and he definitely lives up to that title with this very in-depth episode. Mike spent lots of time with Hal and learned tons of great stories about the years that Hal Blaine spent working for mafia types in seedy nightclubs through his rise to the top and love of all things luxurious.

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Franks Drum Shop was one of the four original drum stores in America and was a Midwest hot spot for drummers like Gene Krupa, Buddy Rich, Louie Bellson and many more as they passed through town. From 1938 to the mid 1980's, It had a world class repair shop, amazing sales floor, and a lesson program that had teachers that were absolute legends like Roy C. Knapp. Rob Cook wrote his first book in 1993 about Franks Drum Shop which originated from his life being changed by a visit to Franks as a very young man. This is a very interesting episode that his information that only someone like Rob Cook can provide!

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Chris has come up with a great list of tips and tricks for gigging drummers of all levels. He shares how his Honda Fit has been converted into a mobile drum repair shop and everything that he keeps on hand to make sure he never misses a beat. Not only is Chris a long time gigging drummer around the Boston area, he is a successful animator going back to shows like "Dr. Katz", and "Home Movies". Now he works as a presenter for Adobe by day and a gigging drummer by night.

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The Northup Drums Museum is one of the only "Playing Museums" in the world where you can play some of the most rare drums known to man. You can walk in the door and play a Slingerland Black Beauty, a Ludwig Top Hat and Cain kit and 30 other rare drum kits, plus cymbals, traps, and great memorabilia! Tim is an antique dealer by trade and has taken his families historical dairy barn and turned into an antique store upstairs, and one of the finest drum museums in the world downstairs, Enjoy this episode!

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Will takes us on a fascinating deep dive into what Ethnomusicology is and how it applies to drums and percussion around the world. We learn the process of how to study different cultures and learn about the music, the instruments, and how to appreciate and apply the styles. Will is a cool guy who has a great way of explaining an interesting educational topic. Enjoy this episode!

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Joe Barthelette has created a very unique drum shop in Massachusetts that offers some extremely rare drum sets that are presented with his unique style. He is a young guy but has accumulated a vast knowledge of instrument through years of hunting down vintage drums and presenting at the drum shows. Every drum shop is different and it is fun to speak with the owners to see what makes their shop different and special - I look forward to doing more in the future!

Check out Wood and Weathers website here: https://woodandweatherdrumshop.com/

and find him on Instagram at @woodandweatherdrumshop

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OCDP is one of the most iconic brand of the late 90's/Early 2000's with endorsees like Travis Barker, Chad Sexton, Adrien Young, and Taylor Hawkins. My guests are Michael Kelley who was a part of OCDP from the very beginning through the mid 2000's and Jarrod Fallon who is an OCDP enthusiast, collector, and restorer. These two guys together cover the somewhat mysterious background of this iconic brand that was a part of the rock and roll zeitgeist of the early 2000's. We discuss the early days as a So-Cal drum shop, the wild designs, vented snares, famous endorsers, the rise and fall of the company and much more!

Check out Michael's new drum company: www.kelleydrums.com

Thanks to Twin Cities Drum Collective for sponsoring this episode!

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Rob Cook, founder of the Chicago Drum Show and Author of "The Complete History of Leedy Drums" and "The Leedy Way", gives us the complete history of the Leedy Drum Company. The amazing story begins with U.G. Leedy producing snare stands in his apartment in Indianapolis and evolves into becoming the largest manufacturer of drums in the world. Rob also teaches us about George Ways involvement in the rise and fall of Leedy.

Rob is the author of many great books (The Slingerland Book, The Ludwig Book, The Rogers Book..etc) and "The Leedy Way" via Hal Leanord Publishing. I highly recommend reading anything that he writes, they are the most complete histories of all the major drum companies.

You can purchase all of his books through his website, www.rebeats.com

**This episode was originally released in December 2018 as Episode 6.**

Drum Archive is the online home of more drum catalogs in one place than you will find anywhere else in the world! Andy has created a resource that I personally use multiple times a week and has become essential for vintage drum enthusiasts to learn and research about the instrument that we love. He shares the story of how and why he created this site and why he has such a passion for archiving drum catalogs!

Check out the site at www.drumarchive.com

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Chick Webb fell down the stairs as a child and smashed multiple vertebrae which left him with a serious physical handicap, but he still managed to become one of the best drummers in the world in his short 30 year life. Chick Webb is one of the god fathers of modern drumming and was revered by Buddy Rich, Gene Krupa, and every top drummer of the 1920's and 30's. Chet is the author of a great Chick Webb biography book and has extensive knowledge about Chick, Billy Gladstone, and vintage Gretsch drums. Chick died very young but accomplished an incredible amount in that time - enjoy this great underdog story!

Here is Chets book on Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/Chick-Webb-Spinnin-Little-Giant/dp/1574243098/ref=sr_1_1?crid=2CETL6TZBXNXV&keywords=Chick+Webb+Spinnin%27+the+Webb%3A+The+Little+Giant&qid=1657597127&sprefix=chick+webb+spinnin%27+the+webb+the+little+giant%2Caps%2C38&sr=8-1

Thanks to Lowboy Beaters for sponsoring this episode - use code DRUMHISTORY at www.lowboybeaters.com to save 15% off

A group of armed bandits robbed the Payroll at the Gretsch Manufacturing Co. in 1927! This article has never been seen by the modern Gretsch family or Gretsch employees and is a glimpse into an exciting and scary situation that happened in Brooklyn at the factory!

Here is the episode with Lucas von Gretsch: https://www.drumhistorypodcast.com/post/ep-159-gretsch-the-eternal-brand-with-lucas-von-gretsch

Lucas takes us back to the Victorian Era when Gretsch was founded in 1883 and gives a family members inside scoop on this iconic drum brand. Lucas covers the origins of the company up to the 1950's in this episode which includes the birth of the drum set, the explosion of jazz, the great depression, and surviving through World War 2. We hear about all of the Gretsch family members and the important role each person had in the development of the brand over the last 139 years.

Check out all the great Gretsch Drums currently available at: https://www.gretschdrums.com/

Here is the Gretsch Heritage series: https://youtu.be/cxMMgojtsHE

Enjoy!

English Newspaper articles about Premier selling drums behind the Iron Curtain to Soviet Russia and West Germany. This was a big part of Premiers business at the time and this made the evening news around the UK! Be sure to check out the other full length interview episodes of the podcast.

Here is a link to this episode on YouTube so you can see the original article: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZCji5q4G2pY

EDIT -- I said Dr. Della-Porta when it should be Mr. Della-Porta. He wasn't a doctor :)

This is a classic episode that I am excited to re-release! Charlie Watts purchased Gene Krupas long lost drum collection - what is better than that?! I also announce the start of a new series that I am launching simultaneously with the release of episode. Listen to learn more!

Original Description: A large collection of Gene Krupa's gear has been in a storage unit since 1973 and has recently been discovered! If that wasn't enough...It was all purchased by the legendary Charlie Watts! Our friend Brooks Tegler was the man who authenticated this collection and shares the story with us.

Are the myths true about Gene playing a Dynasonic? You'll have to listen to find out! Brooks takes us through the whole story of how this amazing collection was found and what was included, and how it ended up with a Rolling Stone.

You can find the full report that Brooks created for this collection at his blog:

www.krupasequipmenthistory.blog

Purchase physical GK book here: http://rebeats.com/books.html

and the Digital copy here: https://hudsonmusic.com/product/gk-the-tools-that-built-the-gene-krupa-legend/

1938 Drum Newspaper Ad for Gene Krupas "Drum Method" book from the Daily News in New York City. Gene Krupa is one of the god fathers of modern drumming and is responsible for many drummers picking up the sticks in the mid 20th Century.

His drum book came out in the same year and can still be purchased today, here is a link to it on Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/Gene-Krupa-Drum-Method/dp/0760400857

Here are some podcast episodes that I have done about Gene with Krupa expert, Brooks Tegler:

-A Biography of Gene Krupa: https://youtu.be/mO98TNoNyEw

-The Utimate Gene Krupa Gear Guide: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wvZ58uqa4Zs

-Discovering Gene Krupas Lost Drum Collection: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ga7f0sEk1YI

Thanks for watching and thanks to my friend Jerry Reiman for compiling these articles.

In addition to Pork Pie, Bill has been the man behind the scenes doing work for DW, Tama, Mapex, new Rogers, OCDP, Gruv-X and a number of other brands for over 3 decades. Bill has also been building drums, doing edges, and painting drums for massive artists like Tre Cool, Chad Smith, Mike Bordin, and countless others all out of his small California shop where he has had a huge influence on the drum industry. This episode is full of great information about the full history of Pork Pie, but also things like the brand new Rogers drums that Bill is building in his shop, the Gruv-X brand he created with Russ Miller, and lots of interesting industry stories along the way.

www.porkpiedrums.com

www.gruv-x.com

Enjoy this episode and be sure to check out the bonus episode at patreon.com/drumhistorypodcast

WFL Drums was born in 1937 when William F. Ludwig sold the company and rights to use his name to CG Conn and he became a competitor with Ludwig and Ludwig Drums. Kurt is an expert on this roughly 18-year period where William F. Ludwig and The Chief (William II) operated out of the Damen Ave factory as WFL Drum Co. and created beautiful drum sets and hardware that are still revered today. We discuss the initial opening of the factory, the war-time era, and the eventual purchase of the Ludwig name back from Conn in the mid-1950s. Kurt has a great collection and really knows his stuff - enjoy this episode!

Here are some other Ludwig related Podcast episodes:

EP 8 - The History of Ludwig Drums with William F. Ludwig III:

https://www.drumhistorypodcast.com/post/ep-8-the-history-of-ludwig-drums-with-william-f-ludwig-iii

EP 44 - The History of the Ludwig Black Beauty with Uli Salazar:

https://www.drumhistorypodcast.com/post/ep-44-the-history-of-the-ludwig-black-beauty-with-uli-salazar

EP 61 - Living a Ludwig Life with Jim Catalano

https://www.drumhistorypodcast.com/post/ep-61-living-a-ludwig-life-with-jim-catalano

EP 95 - The History of Ludwig Bass Drum Pedals with Steve Zemanek

https://www.drumhistorypodcast.com/post/ep-95-the-history-of-ludwig-bass-drum-pedals-with-steve-zemanek

EP145 - Ludwigs Role in the Development of Plastic Drumheads with Bill Ryder

https://www.drumhistorypodcast.com/post/ep-145-ludwigs-role-in-the-development-of-plastic-drumheads-with-bill-ryder

EP 153 - Ludwig Supraphonic History with Uli Salazar

https://www.drumhistorypodcast.com/post/ep-153-ludwig-supraphonic-history-with-uli-salazar

This episode is all about the musicians who inspired the famous British Invasion drummers of the 1960's well before the music reached American soil. Daniel takes us through the 1950's in England to learn about the circumstances that created the famous Rock and Roll sounds that swept across the world, and we learn the geographic factors such as growing up in the completely bombed out post-WW2 England. Plus the impact that the first wave of touring American Rockstars had on the young impressionable musicians of the UK.

Here is a link to Daniels Website: https://danielglass.com/

Here is a link to Daniels latest album, "BAM", on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/3Gze3IBXLi2ThArh5xrqjE?si=-thrE2KNSBGS4EjWaA4_NA

Be sure to check out the Roots of Rock and Roll book that we discussed: https://hudsonmusic.com/product/the-roots-of-rock-drumming/

Cadan takes us through his masters thesis which covers the long and often misunderstood history of the drum kit. His studies included interviews with Thomas Lang, Daniel Glass, Steve White, Matt Brennan and many more which he shares in this episode. The title of his thesis is "From Double Drumming to Double Bass Drums" and we not only discuss many historical elements along the way, but the process in which he researched and documented topics which have no living primary sources and have multiple theories.

Here is Cadans website for more info: https://cgidrummer.com/

The Ludwig Supraphonic is known as the most recorded snare drum in history and has an amazing background that dates all the way back to 1914! Uli Salazar is the Senior Marketing and Artist Relations Manager at Ludwig and he gives us a great deep dive into the technology that evolved over a 50 year period leading up to the release of the Supra in 1964. We talk about the lugs, the shell design, the throw-off, and tons of great details about the Supraphonic!

Check out Uli on Instagram at @damendrums and ervrything Ludwig has to offer at www.ludwig-drums.com

Visit Patreon.com/drumhistorypodcast to sign up and hear the bonus episodes.

Steve Lauden is the author of "The Forbidden Beat: Perspectives on Punk Drumming" which explores the history of punk percussion with personal essays, interviews and lists featuring their favorite players and biggest influences. Steve breaks down the early history of punk drumming form the 60's proto-punk, through the iconic 70's and 80's, up to the modern pop-punk of the 2000's through today. We dig into some of Steves favorite stories and lessons that he learned from many of the legends he interviewed including D.H. Peligro, Tre Cool, Rat Scabies and many more!

Check out Steves website here: http://swlauden.com/

and you can find the book on Amazon here: https://www.amazon.com/Forbidden-Beat-Perspectives-Punk-Drumming/dp/1644282275/ref=asc_df_1644282275/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=532952235284&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=3874806235166674429&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9015707&hvtargid=pla-1485259125804&psc=1

(Originally released in April 2018) What was it like to be a Trap Drummer in the silent movie era as talking pictures take over and your job was becoming obsolete? Listen as Kelli and I discuss how this great percussion genre became extinct. Trap Drummers were percussionists who performed alongside silent films and performances before the advent of "Talkies" (talking pictures). Using a wide array of instruments and devices (contraptions), Trap Drummers aimed to make audiences believe these sounds were one with the film or performance.

To dive into the world of Trap Drumming, we listen to real samples performed by legendary William F. Ludwig III. In 1927, Talkies took over popular culture and overshadowed America's once-beloved silent films. This left thousands of talented Trap Drummers jobless, with nothing but a forgotten craft to call their own. So what was it really like to be a Trap Drummer in the silent movie era as talking pictures take over?

Hear about this and much more on this episode! Check out everything Kelli is up to on her website: www.kelliraetubbs.com

Bill is the Music Director on Sesame Street and shares tons of great information on the famous drummers that have played on the show like Questlove, Anderson Paak, Evelyn Glennie, and more - plus we discuss Buddy RIch and his performance with with Animal on The Muppets in the 80's. Bill talks about how it works when a Muppet plays the drums and how it is synced up with a real drummer, and also the importance of music and rhythm on Sesame Street and all kids programming. Bill has worked on many cool things outside of the muppets including Hamilton, Tick Tick Boom, In the Heights, and he co-hosts a podcast with Questlove called "Questlove Supreme"

Check out BIll's website here: https://www.popmusicmisery.com/

and listen to Questlove Supreme here: https://www.iheart.com/podcast/1119-questlove-supreme-53194211/

Ronn discusses his new acquisition of the classic Canadian brand, Milestone Percussion! Milestone was founded in the 1970's by Michael Clapham, and became a beloved brand of Fiberglass drums that hold a special place in many drummers hearts. Now, in 2022, Ronn has brought the original brand back to life and is relaunching with the extreme attention to detail that we have all come to expect from all Dunnett products. Ron doesn't spare any details of what he thinks went wrong with the original run of the company and what he is doing to improve and make it a long lasting Canadian brand. We also learn about Ronn's work process and great info on all of his brands - Dunnett Classic Drums, George Way Drums, and now Milestone Percussion.

Keep up with Ronn on social media and at https://www.dunnett.com/

Enjoy this episode and check out Ronn's bonus episode at www.patreon.com/drumhistorypodcast

Randy takes us through the decades of rare finishes including Leedy's "Autographs of the Stars", Ludwig's "Top Hat and Cain", all sorts of Pearl and Oyster finishes, and through the psychedelic 60 and 70's with Citrus Mod, Psych Red, and Mod Orange. Randy is a longtime collector and restorer of vintage drums and shares stories of many kits that have come through his hands, and discusses many ultra rare kits that he has seen and learned about in the vintage community.

Be sure to find Randy at the Chicago Drum Show and find him on Facebook to get in touch.

Watch this video interview on YouTube here: https://youtu.be/xkgrq4BqMM4

Enjoy

Richard King has been collecting and dealing with high end drums since the 1980's, which has led him to be a dealer and broker for celebrities and also provided drum kits for a number of films. He has a very long running business that specializes in rare and hard to find drum hardware that he has meticulously cleaned, categorized and ready to sell out of his house. Richard shares information on his background on collecting, but also the vintage drum industry and drum shows as a whole. He has built up a sparkling reputation on eBay and to other dealers and collectors around the world so tune in if you want to hear Richards secrets to have a long career in vintage drums!

Here is Richard eBay store where you can keep up with what he has for sale: https://www.ebay.com/str/kingsmusic

Enjoy!

Dr. John Owens shares the vibrant lineage of street drumming, the lives of urban percussionists, and the rhythms that make it all happen! He has a history as a street drummer in Washington DC, a performer at Disney, and a member of the US Army Band. He is the author of "Street Drumming: The People, History, and Grooves" which is a soup to nuts guide on everything there is to know about Street Drumming!

You can find his book for sale here: https://www.amazon.com/dp/1954270135/ref=sr_1_2

Here is John's website: https://www.www.johnowensdrums.com

Bill Ryder is a longtime listener of the podcast that decided to do extensive research on Ludwig drumheads and the important role that they played in the history of modern plastic drumheads and present it on the podcast. Ludwig's crimped style of drumhead was unique and different from how Remo and Evans connected Mylar to the flesh hoop with a resin epoxy and how they arrived at the use of Mylar is an huge part of drumhead history. The crimped style was quickly stolen by Slingerland which may be the catalyst that started the legendary feud between Slingerland and Ludwig. Bill got help from Jim Catalano (former Ludwig dir. of Marketing) and Herbie May (Remo R&D Director) on this episode which helped create a very thoroughly researched and fun episode.

Here are the other Drumhead related episodes that I mentioned:

History of Remo with Herbie May - https://www.drumhistorypodcast.com/post/ep-26-the-history-of-remo-drumheads-with-herbie-may

A Look at Animal Skin Drumheads with Jeff Stern - https://www.drumhistorypodcast.com/post/ep-115-a-look-at-animal-skin-drumheads-with-jeff-stern

The History of Drumheads with Ben O'bryon Smith - https://www.drumhistorypodcast.com/post/ep-15-the-history-of-drumheads-with-ben-o-brien-smith

Check out Bills written version of this story on my site:

https://www.drumhistorypodcast.com/post/ep-145-ludwigs-role-in-the-development-of-plastic-drumheads-with-bill-ryder

Louis Bernstein not only had a large, high-end drum collection but he also had a true passion for hunting down many of the original famous drum films and tapes that we all enjoy on YouTube today - but Louis was faced with the challenge of moving to a Condo in 2013 and sell off the majority of his collection. He shares the process of how downsizing a collection of 140+ snares, 4 kits, countless rare tapes, Buddy Rich Memorabilia, and all sorts of other things worked and what he learned from the process.

Louis also did a really cool Patreon bonus video episode where he shows us his Buddy Rich Big Band original music stand, and his Buddy Rich owned Canister throne. Check it out at patreon.com/drumhistorypodcast

Daniel is a professor at the Federal University of São Carlos in Brazil, along with being a contributor to "The Cambridge Companion to the Drum Kit". Daniels history for this episode goes back to 1917 in Brazil and takes us through the amazing history of drum sets, drumming styles, and iconic drummers which has many parallels to the American and European histories we usually hear on the show - but this is uniquely Brazilian!

• Here is a link to Daniels website: https://danielgohn.wixsite.com/website

• A Link to my book: https://hudsonmusic.com/product/no-mundo-da-bateria/

• Link to the Cambridge book: https://www.cambridge.org/core/books/cambridge-

companion-to-the-drum-kit/3883F371E040EC3681646F170E4FA078

Here is a resource of names that Daniel mentioned in this episode that he provided to help English speakers easily find the players and records easily:

- Luciano Perrone (father of Brazilian drumming)

- first drum solo in the song Faceira (1931)

- 50 years partnership with Radamés Gnatalli

- Recording of the song Aquarela do Brasil in 1939

- Oscar Bolão: author of “Batuque is a privilege”

- Edison Machado – creator of samba no prato

- Or was Hildofredo Correa?

- Antonio Carlos Jobim (record in 1963): The composer of Desafinado, plays

and the only record of Edison Machado as a leader: É Samba novo (1963)

- Milton Banana played in the João Gilberto record Chega de Saudade (1959). He also

played in Getz / Gilberto (1963)

- Dom Um Romão played in the Jobim / Sinatra record (1967)

- Airto Moreira played with Sambalanço Trio and Sambrasa Trio, then in Quarteto

Novo (1967)

- When discussing recording technologies, I mentioned the drummer Wilson das Neves

and suggested listening to his work with Chico Buarque

- Modern players: Marcio Bahia, Nenê, Zé Eduardo Nazário, Celso de Almeida, Ramon

Montagner, Edu Ribeiro, Kiko Freitas

- I mentioned Hermeto Pascoal and Egberto Gismonti as important references

Don Lombardi is the founder of DW Drums and he shares the full story of this legendary American drum brand. Drum Workshop has amazing origins in Don's garage where he recycled the name from his drum teaching business and turned his garage into a workshop where he and his student, John Good, created canister thrones that could raise and lower - and the rest is history! I learned so much about the Camco story, the 5000 pedal, and everything I never knew about DW and Don's background as a professional drummers.

DW's website: http://www.dwdrums.com/

Drum Channel YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/drumchannel

Masters of Resonance documentary: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gzt-PaR0XUw&t=67s

Barry James was a student of George Lawrence Stone in the 1950's and is continuing on his teachings to this day by releasing two new books that he worked on with Joe Morello that are finally ready to be released! Barry's new book's are called "Counting the Exercises in Stick Control" which supplements "Stick Control" and teaches how to read it the way Stone originally intended, and the second is "Future Rudiments" which is a concept that Stone created towards the end of his life. Barry is a wealth of knowledge and is working very hard to teach the Stone method at its truest form!

Contact Barry to get a copy of either book before the Kindle release by emailing [email protected] or calling him at (321) 297-3042, and also Barry is an a great teacher who I highly recommend for remote lessons.

Here is a link to Barrys original episode on the podcast: https://www.drumhistorypodcast.com/post/ep-52-legendary-teachers-george-l-stone-with-barry-james

Gary Astridge is Ringo Starr's historian and curator of his equipment who does talks around the world about all things Ringo! He shares tons of great information about the recent documentary, "Get Back", including his equipment, the relationship of the band, and what happened to Ringo's drums after the album was finished. I also ask Gary a bunch of great questions that were sent in from listeners on social media. We also learn some very exciting news about Ringos "Let It Be" drums that are coming out of the vault and making an appearance at the Rock Hall!

Follow along and learn everything there is to know about Ringo's gear at Gary's website - www.ringosbeatlekits.com

Enjoy!

Joe Mekler aka Joey Boom tells us all about the Delaware Drum Show which is one of the top drum shows in the USA and is happening on February 27th (2022). Joe is not only an expert on World War 2 drums, but he is a master restorer of vintage drums and a staple of the vintage community. In this episode, my friend Joe shares everything you need to know about this years show and the legacy that he is keeping alive through his passionate dedication to the vintage drum community and the beautiful instruments that collectors like Joe bring to the Delaware Drum Show.

Check out all the details at www.delawaredrum.com and you can also watch the video of this interview on youtube at https://www.youtube.com/c/DrumHistoryPodcast

Thanks for listening!

Mandy is the Director of Education at the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame in Cleveland, Ohio and she shares tons of great insider information on how the Rock Hall works! She is a drummer who teaches us things like how many drummers have been inducted twice, can an iconic studio musician be inducted, and how many female drummers are in the Hall of Fame? This is a cool episode that really shines a light on an American Rock and Roll institution that can often be a source of controversy when the nominees are announced, but Mandy has a great attitude and love for her job that is really cool to learn about.

You can watch a video of this interview by visiting Drum History on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/DrumHistoryPodcast

Rock and Roll Hall of Fame's website: www.rockhall.com

Rock Hall Education site: https://edu.rockhall.com/

Joe talks about working with Neil Peart and Stewart Copeland on the amazing books that he created to spotlight their legendary careers. Joe Bergamini is a prolific author, drummer and teacher and shares the story of how he convinced these mega drummers to let him in and create books that are detailed transcription books, but also work as a coffee table book that shares all the details of the drummers career. Joe also shares lots of great stories about his career and working as a broadway drummer in NYC.

Check out "Stewart Copeland: Drumming in the Police and Beyond" and "Neil Peart: Taking Center Stage: A Lifetime of Live Performance" on his website: https://www.joebergamini.com/product-category/books/

Here is a link for the Sabian Education Network: https://sabianed.com/

This is a fun conversation with Youtube legend Terry Keating (aka Bonzoleum) about how his long history of collecting drums and tips and tricks he has learned along the way, He is known for his passion and knowledge about John Bonham, but Terry is also extremely knowledgable about a wide range of vintage and not so vintage drums. He is a genuinely nice guy who has worked very hard on building his 61k subscriber YouTube channel and it was a lot of fun to talk to Terry about his personal collecting and pick his brain about a ton of topics.

Here is a link to Terrys great "Bonzoleum" YouTube Channel - https://www.youtube.com/c/bonzoleum

John worked for Zildjian for 24 years in a number of roles from artist relations all the way up to vice president of the company. I asked him to teach me how the industry works, and he did a great job of breaking down many roles in the drum world and how they all work together. John has personally worked with brands like Simmons, DW, and Zildjian - but these positions and roles are typically industry wide. This is a good way to learn about how it all works if you are interested in a career, but it is also a fun look at how the brands we all love work.

Check out John's great series called "Live From My Drum Room" here: https://www.youtube.com/c/JohnDeChristopherLiveFromMyDrumRoom

Listen to John's and many other bonus episodes by supporting the show on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/drumhistorypodcast

George Fludas is a Bonzo fanatic who shares his immense knowledge about John Bonham including a biography of the iconic Zeppelin drummer, a discussion of his touring years with Zep, and a look at what we do and don't know about his famous gear. This is a very long awaited episode that I have wanted to do for a long time and I am very happy that George came on to share a very respectful and interesting look at the favorite drummer of many players around the world.

Here is a link to George's "Bonhamology' youtube channel: https://www.youtube.com/c/BONHAMOLOGY

Here is a link to George's website where you can keep up with his gigs: www.georgefludas.com

Thank you for listening!

Billy Gladstone was a legendary performer and the maker of some of the rarest drums in existence with only 61 snare drums and 2 drum sets that are still known to be among us today. Chet Falzerano provides a fascinating biography of Billy and tons of info that is only available from his extensive research he did for his book on Gladstone. This episode also features a short interview segment with the owner of the one of the two Gladstone drum sets that still exists - David Wood. He shares the story of how he acquired the kit from Chet and the very cool thing he is going to do with this holy grail kit.

Here are Chet's links:

Chet's Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/user/cfalzerano 

Billy Gladstone tribute page https://www.facebook.com/billy.gladstone/

Chet's Billy Gladsont book: https://www.amazon.com/Billy-Gladstone-Chet-Falzerano/dp/1574242156

This is a quick episode where Bart shares a short biography of "Syncopation" author, Ted Reed, and discusses some Drum History Pod info about things that are coming up!

Big thanks to JDA for providing the information about Ted Reed on drumforum.org. Here are the links to the videos that most likely feature Ted Reed on drums:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9qP0UPuc-DU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJJEX_M2ReQ

Tommy teaches us about his amazing period correct collection of snares that Buddy Rich played spanning his career from 1950 to the early 1980's! We dig deep into 15 specific snare drums including Buddy's famous relationship with the forbidden Fibes snare drum that he loved so much, his wood DynaSonic, his on/off relationships with Slingerland and Ludwig, and of course - Buddy playing Trixon! Tommy Piorek is a Buddy RIch expert and has a number of rare Buddy Rich collectibles - but this collection of snare drums was something truly special. This is a great episode that has tons of great Buddy stories and lots of information I haven't heard anywhere else!

Check out a video tour of Tommy's collection at the Chicago Drum Show in 2015 with Jim Messina: youtube.com/watch?v=1pAyVar2H84&t=495s

Enjoy!

Jason Gianni shares audio examples from artists including Fats Domino, Elvis, Ray Charles, Sister Rosetta Tharpe and many more that showcase the evolution of rock drumming from the 1940's to the 1960's. We discuss the drumming of these great artists plus Jason plays examples on his own kit! Jason is an instructor at the Drummers Collective in NYC and a professor at the New School in NYC and the University of the Arts in Philadelphia, and most importantly - he played drums on the "SpongeBob Squarepants" theme :) He has great knowledge on how rock and roll slowly but steadily evolved from one recording to the next and how it was a process of building that led to modern rock and roll as we know it today.

You can get in contact with Jason at [email protected]

Here is a link to Jasons classic Book, The Drummers Bible: https://www.amazon.com/Drummers-Bible-Every-Afro-Cuban-Zydeco/dp/1937276198/ref=sr_1_1?qid=1639452783&refinements=p_27%3AJason+Gianni&s=books&sr=1-1&text=Jason+Gianni

Vicky teaches us the history of female drummers through the decades in this very in-depth episode that begins 2000 years ago when all the drummers in society were women! Vicky O'Neon is a great drummer, educator, and YouTuber who has created an amazing 12. part series that she was kind of enough to condense all that information in this fun episode. Female drummers have faced countless hardships through the decades but the thing that really struck me in this episode is how unbelievably persistent, hardworking, and talented they are despite all the struggles. We live in a great time now where things have gotten much better but it has been a long and fascinating journey that Vicky expertly teaches.

Here is a link to her youtube channel where you can watch the entire series: https://www.youtube.com/c/VickyONeon

And here is a link to the Girls Rock Camp Alliance that we discuss in this episode: https://www.girlsrockcampalliance.org

Find Vicky on all social media platforms at @Vickyoneondrums

Thanks for listening!

Corder Drums was born in 1979 when Jim Corder purchased the Fibes manufacturing equipment from C.F. Martin after they decided to no longer be in the drum business. My guest is Don Corder, Jim's son, was an employee since day one and helped his dad and brothers learn on the fly and create a drum brand that is now a part of the history of the instrument. Not only is this a great story because of the Fibes and Darwin drums connection, but it is a wonderful story of a family working together to make Jim Corders dreams a reality.

You can check check out the products that Don Corder still sells to this day at https://corderproducts.com/

Enjoy this episode!

We pick up the Paiste history in the 1970's when 2002's were king and all the famous European rock bands were representing Paiste. The company also lost its distribution deal with Ludwig in the early 70's and had a period of about 4 or 5 years where distribution in America was slim to none - until they made a deal with Rogers that brought the iconic cymbals state-side. This and much much more is discussed in this episode, plus Dan corrects a few things from the first episode that came to light in the short time between us recording these two shows.

Dan Garza is an admin on the Paiste section of the great cymbal.wiki and is a lifetime Paiste fanatic. He has done extensive research on this somewhat mysterious company and compiled great information for this episode.

Follow along here http://www.cymbal.wiki/wiki/Paiste

Thanks to Dan and everyone else who contributed to make this possible!

This is an in-depth look at the fascinating history of one of the biggest names in cymbal making - Paiste! Dan Garza is an expert on the history of the company and teaches us the origin story that dates back to the turn of the century in Estonia with the Paiste family right up to the 1970's in Switzerland and Germany. Part 2 will pick up where this episode leaves off with the 70's rock explosion where Paiste was being played by some of the biggest names in the industry including John Bonham, Joe Morello, Carmine Appice and many more.

Dan Garza is an admin on the Paiste section of the great cymbal.wiki and is a lifetime Paiste fanatic. He has done extensive research on this somewhat mysterious company and compiled great information for this episode.

Follow along here http://www.cymbal.wiki/wiki/Paiste

Stay tuned for Part 2 and enjoy this great episode!

Edith teaches us about the amazing drumming culture in Basel Switzerland and the unique style of drumming that the region has made famous. We talk about the construction of the Basler drums and the history of the clubs and traditions that created this unique environment. Edith is a legend in the Basel drumming community and is a great ambassador to the region.

A link to Ediths website:

www.habraken.ch

The english title of her book is: “In the footsteps of the drummers of Basel” English translation of the original german version by Helen Oxley.

Include DVD & 5 written compositions in two drum “languages”.

For questions and order please email Edith: [email protected]

You can also email her to just have a chat.

Thank you and enjoy the episode!

The story of Kent Drums is a tale of the American dream as a family travels from Poland to America in 1911, then starts a drum company after WW2 that is created to make affordable drums for people who cant afford the big brands. My guest Dennis Brown aka Mouse, is the author of "History of the Kent Drum Company 1946-1977" and is an absolute expert on Kent with first hand information from his interviews with William and Edward Kent. Mouse has a great reason to be connected to the drum brand which you'll hear towards the end of the episode.

Here is the Vintage Kent Drums Appreciation Page: https://www.facebook.com/groups/1457246141188980

and here is where to buy Mouses book on eBay: https://www.ebay.com/itm/234153626524?epid=15050073918&hash=item3684a4cb9c:g:qyUAAOSwX2hhIs41

Enjoy this episode!

Jim Clark is a 57 year veteran of the drums and an expert at applying traditional rudiments to the drum set for an everyday rock/jazz drummer (like myself). We discuss how drummers like Steve Gadd, Billy Cobham, Elvin Jones and many more are masters of the rudimental method and how they apply it to commercial music without sounding like a traditional marching band drummer. Jim is a educator, historian, performer and author of books such as "Connecticut's Drum & Fife Tradition" and the brand new "Ten Pieces for Field Drums".

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Keep up with Jim via Connecticut Valley Field Music here: https://www.ctvalleyfieldmusic.com/

Check out Jims Latest "TenPieces for Field Drums" Book here: https://pulsamusica.com/book-store/ten-pieces-for-field-drum-print-version.html

Enjoy!

D-Beat is a very specific beat that is used in punk music starting in the early 80's in the UK that then grew into its own style of the genre. My guest is Spike T. Smith who is a veteran punk drummer who came up in the D-Beat era of punk in the the UK and has played with greats such as Morrissey, The Damned, Killing Joke, New York Dolls, Steve Ignorant/Crass, Sona Fariq and Sacrilege. He created a great documentary about the history of the D-Beat and he shares the full story with us in this episode!

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Watch Spikes great documentary here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dyE5ZV4pgpE&t=290s=

and check out his website to keep up with Spike: https://www.spiketsmith.com/

Mitch Mitchell was a successful child star on BBC before he ever became a drummer, then he changed gears to become a drummer full time and had a gold record with Jimi Hendrix by the time he was 20. This is an amazingly in-depth look at the life of one of the most swinging rock drummers that ever sat behind the kit. My guest is Major Kevin John Simon who is the founder of the very successful Mitch Mitchell Fan Club. He is an absolute expert on Mitch, his kits, and every important milestone of his prolific career,

Check out the Mitch Mitchell fan club website here: www.mitchdrummer.com and on facebook at https://www.facebook.com/groups/120041094832875/

Track listing of Major Simon's recommended listening:

1. Song: "Third Stone From The Sun" / Album: Are You Experienced
2. Song: "Up From The Sky" Album / Axis: Bold As Love
3. Song: Voodoo Chile / Album: Electric Ladyland
4. "If 6 was 9" / Album: Axis: Bold as Love

Here are the Mitch Mitchell Vater drumsticks that Major Simon talked about on the show: https://www.mitchdrummer.com/product-page/mitch-mitchell-drum-sticks

Thanks for listening!

Bryson Nelson has created a shop that not only is a mecca for vintage drum lovers, but also a place where drummers of all levels can come and enjoy the community that is very unique to our drum world. He shares the story of how he started his shop and the joys and pressures that comes along with starting a brand from scratch, Bryson has a very young family and has been dealing with health issues that has been pulling him away from his shop recently, while simultaneously he is expanding into a much bigger shop in East Nashville - enjoy this episode!

Find Nelson online at http://www.nelsondrumshop.com on social media at @nelson_drum_shop

Bob is a world class collector who has been a drummer in bands such as the Kinks, The Daybreakers, Argent and worked as a session/live drummer with musicians like Roger Daltrey and Don McLean. When he wasn't on stage, Bob was visiting mom and pop music stores across the world trying to find rare and unique drums and take them back home to the UK. Bob shares his "Desert Island Drums" that are his absolute favorites and most important to him in his extensive career. This episode is chocked full of rare and unique information from a living legend.

Bob is also responsible for the recent "Count Me In" documentary on Netflix, which I highly recommend! We talk in great detail about it in the bonus episode this week.

Enjoy this episode!

Josh is known on social media for his amazing videos where he creates percussive sound effects to famous movie clips and it has garnered him a following in the millions - but he joins me in this episode to talk about his passion and expertise on the history of french military drumming. He not only studied the ins-and-outs of the Napoleonic military style of drumming and all the tactical ways drums were used in the military, but he actually traveled to France to study with one of the last men who teach this elaborate type of drumming that is uniquely French. This is a great episode that is packed with interesting info with a very funny guy.

Check out Josh's trailer for his documentary that he made about his experience: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oIKTyT9hw14

Enjoy this episode, and thank you to Bryne Cymbals for sponsoring this episode. Learn more at https://byrnecymbals.com/

Don't blame yourself if you have trouble tuning - It might be your edges! Jeff is a great drum builder in Portland, Oregon who has a deep understanding of bearing edges and drum building in general. He spends majority of this episode discussing everything you need to know to understand how edges work, but we also talk about vintage vs. modern shell construction and wood types!

Get in contact with Jeff here: https://portlanddrums.com/

Enjoy this episode!

Ron Weinstein was the inventor of the iconic Tuxedo Bags and had a 40 year relationship with Louie Bellson. He shares the story of how he created the bags which revolutionized drum cases in the 1980's, and how his friend Louie Bellson rocketed his brand forward by attaching Louies celebrity to the brand . The best part is that Louie didn't ask for a dime and Ron tells many great stories that paint picture of how much of a gentleman the drumming legend really was. This is great drumming history that is not widely known, enjoy!

Thanks to NickyMoon for sponsoring this episode - go to nickymoon.com and use code DRUMHISTORYPOD to save 10%

Jeff Stern owns and operates Stern Tanning Co. which acquired the United Rawhide Company of Chicago in 2001 - the former largest manufacturer or drumheads in the world before mylar became king. United Rawhide was the primary drumhead provider for Slingerland, Gretsch, Rogers, and Ludwig. Jeff teaches us the start to finish process of how a tannery works and creates high quality drumheads, plus lots of great information about how, when, and why you would want to use a calf or goat skin drumhead.

Here is the DRUM Magazine article about how to tuck a drumhead: https://drummagazine.com/old-school-tools-how-to-tuck-calfskin-heads/

Stern Tanning Co. website: http://www.sterntanning.com/

Thanks to Dream Cymbals for sponsoring this episode!

Kurt is a drumming entertainment lawyer who breaks down the age old question - can you copyright a drumbeat? We discuss famous songs like "We Will Rock You", "Billy Jean", When The Levee Breaks", "Sunday Bloody Sunday", and many more. Kurt also tells us how song credits work and how we can protect ourselves and get what we deserve as drummers plus tons of other great information. Kurt is the drummer for the very successful rock group, One Bad Son, and has some serious real world experience with his own band and many of his high level clients.

Check out Kurts article about copyrighting drum beats here: https://lawyerdrummer.com/2018/04/can-copyright-drumbeat/

This is the documentary I was discussing about "Who Let The Dogs Out". It is streaming on Hulu. https://www.imdb.com/title/tt9617782/

and a BIG thank you to Drummer Hands CBD Balm for sponsoring this episode. Use promo code "DRUMHISTORY" for free shipping. www.drummerhands.com

Tommy has been the owner of Fibes Drums since 1994, and he is the perfect person to tell us about the history of this iconic brand that dates back to 1966. They are very sought after and beloved drums that are the gem of many collections and we learn about the different eras and owners of the brand. They pushed forward both the technology of Fiberglass drums and Acrylic drums which helped shape the sound of drummers of the 60's, 70,s 80's through to today.

Check out Tommys Drum Shop here: https://tommysdrumshop.com/

Enjoy!

War drums, Primate communication, Indigenous peoples' sacred instruments, and hippie drum circles! Kristen tells us why we are hard wired to love the drums the way we do through her in-depth scientific research that begins 7000 years ago with the earliest drum and ends up today with blistering heavy metal drummers using the primal rhythms to make us feel the fear that our early ancestors felt. This is a really unique episode with a great perspective from a non-drummer who can help shed some knowledge on why we love this great instrument!

Read the original article here: https://massivesci.com/articles/drum-circles-anthropology-music-primates/

Enjoy!

Mike Edison joins us to discuss when the stars align and Charlie finds The Stones, Bonzo joins Zeppelin, Ringo meets the Beatles, and Keith explodes into The Who. We talk all about what makes these (plus many another) drummer's the absolute perfect choice for each of the iconic rock groups and play a game where we switch drummers into different bands. Mike also discusses his great book, "Sympathy for the Drummer - Why Charlie Watt's Matters" which is now available on paperback, and he tells us about the phone call he had with Charlie himself to thank him for writing the book.

Mike is doing a giveaway from Aug 4th to August 11th for 3 free copies of the book, so find Drum History on social media for instructions on how to enter!

Find everything about Mike here - www.mikeedison.com

Pete Jarvis has had a very long and illustrious career that includes working with Wes Anderson and on the HBO series, "Boardwalk Empire" as a composer, arranger and drummer plus he has performed as a soloist, chamber player, Broadway musician and as conductor/player with chamber music ensembles, orchestras and choruses. Pete shares his story with us and many key pieces of advice on how to plan for a long and diverse career in the world of drumming. He is not only planning his next gig, but he is always thinking of his next 20 years of his musical career.

Find out everything about Pete at his website: https://peterjarvismusic.com/

and find him on Youtube here: youtube.com/user/petermjarvis

Enjoy this episode!

Paul is a master drum builder who used materials such as Hemp, Carbon Fiber, Carbon Kevlar, and Fiberglass. He started Tempus in Vancouver in 1985 and and ran the company until he decided to wind down and close his shop in 2012. His unique materials and production style made some of the most unique drums on the market that were widely loved by players around the world. Paul made over 7000 in his career and has some amazing stories about learning to use these materials, running a business, competing with the major players, and tons of other great stories along the way.

Paul was a pleasure to talk to and made for a great episode. If you come across a Tempus drum or drum set, do yourself a favor and buy it!

Here is the Tempus Drums facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/tempus.drums

Rob teaches us about the early origins of drum endorsements that dates all the way back to the early 1900's with drummers being featured in "The Ludwig Drummer" and "Leedy Drum Topics" magazines. We then go through the 50's and 60's where big money started to get involved and Rob shares stories of drummers like Buddy Rich receiving massive cash payments to play various drum brands and Gene Krupa's golden deal that he had with Slingerland. Rob also shares great information about how endorsements work with funding clinics and making it so we can all see the drummers we love at events like the Chicago Drum Show.

Find out everything to do with Rob, his books, and the Chicago Drum show at www.rebeats.com

Enjoy this episode!

Beth is a passionate expert on all things to do with practice pads. She has an extensive collection of her own which she has used to get first hand knowledge, and is also a great researcher who has dug deep to find all the in-depth details that she shares in this episode. This is a fun episodes that is full of info on all the various practice pads that we all grew up with, and the pads of our ancestors.

You can check out the drumforum.org thread that we discuss here: https://www.drumforum.org/threads/practice-pad-history-help.176950/

Beth Hamon is a music educator, a singer-songwriter, and a percussionist. Here is Beth's music website: beth-hamon-music.com

and here is Beth's drum site: http://drumlove1.blogspot.com/

Enjoy this episode!

Chris owns Bopworks drumsticks and he has recreated drumstick models of some of the most legendary players in drum history. Gene Krupa, Shelly Manne, Art Blakey, Mel Lewis are some of the stick's that Chris has gotten the rights to recreate and produce in Austin, Texas. He teaches us the process he had to go through to get the rights from the familys of these legends and then getting the sticks made. We also discuss the impact the different types of sticks can have on the sound and feel of cymbals. This is a great one with lots of different information.

Check out Bopworks here - https://www.bopworks.net

Be sure to check out this weeks Patreon bonus episode with Chris to hear the story of how Chris tried to create a Buddy Rich signature stick and ran into some roadblocks. Join up at www.patreon.com/drumhistorypodcast

Bill Zickos was the inventor of Acrylic Drums in 1959 and changed the drum world forever when clear drums went to market a decade later thanks to famous drummers using them such as Keith Moon, Bill Ward, Ron Bushy, and even John Bonham. Bill passed away at age 90 in 2020 and left a huge legacy in the community. His unique and inventive techniques of making drum shells and creating hardware was way ahead of its time, and his story is full of ups and downs like all the great drum history stories. My guest, Wes Faulconer, knew Bill Zickos and shares many great stories as a long time owner of his drum shop, Explorers Drums and Percussion. We talk about all the various iterations of Zickos drums including when Bill lost ownership of the company but carried on making drums and I share my story about the Zickos drums that got away from me!

Check out Wes' great shop here - https://www.explorersdrums.com/

Thanks for listening and enjoy this episode!

This is a very fun episode where Rob Hart plays us multiple clips from a Tony Williams clinic that he tape recorded in 1982 in Boston. We break down each segment and Rob gives us his first hand experiences from being a student of Tony in the early 90's in the San Francisco Bay Area. We hear tony talk about his famous ride patterns, setting up his kit, hi-hat work, using brushes, and much more - and then each topic has a great explanation and discussion with Rob.

Learn more about everything Rob has going on and to check out his great online courses - find him here:

Rob Hart's main teaching website: robhartdrumstudio.com

Rob's music courses site: rhdsmusiccourses.thinkific.com

Enjoy this episode and be sure to check out the Patreon Bonus episode to hear examples of Tony mimicking Elvin, Art, and Max Roach and a great discussion with Rob. www.patreon.com/drumhistorypodcast

Prologix is celebrating 20 years of creating innovative and high quality practice pads that have become an industry standard. I sit down with company founder, Jason Edwards, about the origins of starting the company in his garage, then slowly growing the business, up to winning multiple "best in shows" at NAMM, to the modern days where Prologix are an international company that has some of the biggest names in the industry as endorsers.

Jason also had a long relationship with the legendary Jim Chapin. He shares many great stories that give us a closer personal look at the moeller-stroke legend as a man, and a hand technician. A huge congrats goes to Jason and Andrew of Prologix and I am honored to share the story of this great company.

Find Prologix Percussion online at https://prologixpercussion.com/ and be sure to use promo code: HISTORY20 to save 20% on everything site wide!

Enjoy!

Colin Hanton was the original drummer for the Quarrymen which featured John Lennon, Paul McCartney, and George Harrison in Liverpool circa 1956. He shares the amazing story of first meeting John Lennon and then the group evolving and growing gig by gig and adding the other future Beatles as time went on. It is amazing to hear the difficulties they faced trying to scrape together money to buy instruments and afford a 2 song EP which is an incredible story all in itself. We cover when Colin left the group and Pete Best became the next Quarrymen drummer and then when things exploded with Ringo. Enjoy this great piece of musical history with a living legend!

Check out Colins book here: https://www.amazon.com/Pre-Fab-Colin-Hanton-ebook/dp/B07D8TVG14

Here is a link to Andy Dwyers shop, ADC Drums in Liverpool: adcdrums.co.uk

Thank you for listening!

A&F is celebrating their 5 year anniversary and Ramy Antoun, founder of the company, joins me to discuss the history of the company, his personal background as a successful drummer both on the road and in the studio. A&F is a one of a kind brand that has exploded in popularity in a very short time and stands out with the unique art deco designs and timeless inventions that Ramy is bringing to the drum world. Enjoy this great conversation with a true innovator in the community!

Check out A&F here: https://www.anfdrumco.com

Thanks for listening and be sure to check out the Patreon bonus episode by becoming a member at patreon.com/drumhistorypodcast

In this special 100th episode, Bart gets interviewed by his brother, Spencer, and discusses his background in drumming, audio engineering and the podcast in general. I figure after 100 episodes I should probably let people know some more info about me and how I got to this point. Thanks so much to everyone who has enjoyed the show over the last few years, and shared it with friends, and sent me such great messages. I am just getting started and have a long way to go!

Big thanks to my brother Spencer for interviewing me for this episode. We have played music together most of our lives and I couldn't think of anyone better to interview me. Be sure to check him out on social media @spencervanderzee to see his art and keep up with what he is doing.

Next week we will return to regularly scheduled Drum History, but for now Enjoy this episode!

Bryan is the founder of Dialtune drums and he tells us about some examples of cable tension drums that he discovered in his journey to create a modern day drum that is easily tuned with just two knobs. A cable tension drum by definition is a drum that uses a system of pulleys with cable or string/rope to make it possible to tune the drum using one point of tension, typically a knob or a key. The drums that Bryan teaches us about from his patent search are really remarkable, and I share my experiences with the amazing Dialtune snare drum that I have been using for the last few months.

Check out Dialtune drums here - www.dialtunedrums.com

Thanks for listening!

Gil is a world renowned drummer who shares his deep passion and knowledge for Reggae drumming in this great episode. He takes us through all the sub genres such as ska, rocksteady, dub, and dancehall. Plus he teaches us about the legends in Reggae drumming such as Lloyd Knibb and Carlton Barrett and the gear that these Jamaican drummers would use when playing with icons such as Bob Marley, Peter Tosh, Lee Perry and many more.

Here is some more info on Gil:

Los Angeles native, Gil Sharone, is highly regarded as one of the most versatile session and touring drummers in the world, who is known for his creativity, authenticity and strong pocket. He is a multiple-time industry award winner as a drummer, but will often wear other hats as a co-writer, producer, and an educator/clinician.

Gil came to notoriety in the rock world as a former member of  The Dillinger Escape Plan, Puscifer, Marilyn Manson, Stolen Babies and Team Sleep. However, he is widely known as an expert in other genres. Reggae, ska and rocksteady were part of his earliest influences along with jazz, funk, hip hop and fusion.

Gil has established himself in the Jamaican drumming styles, authoring an award winning DVD and book entitled Wicked Beats, after playing with legends Eek-A-Mouse, HR of Bad Brains, Dave Wakeling of The English Beat, Fishbone, Western Standard Time Ska Orchestra and more recently with Slightly Stoopid, Morgan Heritage, and his current reggae/dub outfit, Gil, Migs and Rog.

Gil is also an active member of a genre bending music collective, Saudade, where you can hear his jazz fusion collaborations with jazz greats John Medeski, David Torn, Robert Thomas Jr., Dr. Know and Chuck Doom.

Gil’s work further extends into the film/television world, working with composers Tyler Bates and Paul Haslinger. His work can be heard in Deadpool 2, Guardians of The Galaxy 2, all three John Wick movies, The Punisher (Netflix), Kingdom and Stumptown. He has also contributed both as a player and co-writer on the DC Comics: Dark Nights Metal Soundtrack, and his most recent work can be heard in the musical score for the live action Cirque du Soleil show, R.U.N.

Bill takes us back over a thousand years to learn the origins of rope tension drums and how the technology evolved over the centuries. We learn about shell construction, head types, guts and snare history, and much much more. Bill is a wealth of information and is the man behind Calderwood Percussion. He is a master drum builder and an all around great musician on many instruments.

Check out Calderwood Percussion here: https://www.calderwoodpercussion.com/

Be sure to check out the Patreon bonus episode this week because Bill gives us the amazing story of how he made drums for Hamilton the musical and the gigantic bass drum he recently created.

Enjoy this episode!

Jim is an extremely respected music critic on the radio, but he is a drummer at his core. He shares his passion and knowledge of acrylic drums with us starting in 1959 with Zickos, into the 70's with Fibes, and the explosion of popularity with the Vistalites thanks to John Bonham. We discuss the evolution of acrylic shell construction, the color varieties of the extremely unique Ludwig stripe kits, the players who made these drums famous like Billy Cobham and Karen Carpenter, and tons of other great info

Check out Jims website and his 2002 Modern Drummer article on acrylic drums: http://www.jimdero.com/News2002/ClearDrumsModernDrummer.html

Thanks for listening!

Steve takes us through all the decades of Ludwig bass drum pedals starting in 1909 with the iconic first commercially produced bass drum pedal that completely changed the world of drumming, up to the modern re-introduction of the Speed King. Steve is a passionate collector of Ludwig bass drum pedals and wrote a new book called "The Ludwig Line: Bass Drum Pedals" that is full of detailed descriptions and photos of his collection that covers most everyLudwig pedal that was ever made. He is only missing a few "holy grail pedals" that he describes in this episode.

Shoot Steve an email here to get a copy of his Ludwig Pedals book: [email protected] 

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Be sure to check out the Patreon bonus episode this week to hear more great conversation with Steve Zemanek

John was a student of Alan Dawson for many years and shares many of his experiences with Alan and a great spotlight on the life of this truly legendary teacher. We hear what it was like to walk into the room and learn from Alan Dawson using his extremely musical and innovative techniques. Alan would squeeze the absolute most out of books such as Syncopation and Stick Control, along with countless other ways that teaching Alan became the icon he is today.

John Ramsay is the former chair of the percussion department at Berklee College of Music and a veteran performer with groups such as Art Blakeys Jazz Messengers and many more. He is also an author and educator with a deep appreciation and respect for his former teacher, Alan Dawson!

Enoy this episode and be sure to check out Johns Patreon bonus episode by supporting the show at www.patreon.com/drumhistorypodcast

Nick and I discuss 11 different popular cymbal myths in this episode, many of which were submitted by listeners of the podcast! We cover things such as "old cymbals are always better", "hand hammering is automatically good", "covering my cymbal in ketchup makes it sound better", and many more. This is a really fun episode where I learned a ton from my pal Nick Margarite aka NickyMoon.

Nick is a great independent cymbal maker based out of New Jersey and the man behind NickyMoon cymbals. Check out his awesome work at https://www.nickymoon.com/

Here is a quick link to Nicks previous Drum History episode about The History of Cymbal Making - https://www.drumhistorypodcast.com/post/ep-65-the-history-of-cymbal-making-with-nick-margarite-nickymoon

Visit drumhistorypodcast.com/episodes and click this episode to see Nicks outline for this episode.

Thanks for listening!

A Military Tattoo is a ceremony that dates back to the early 17th century in the Netherlands when Drummers would notify the soldiers at the local bars at 9:30pm that it is time to return to the barracks. This was known as "Doe Den Tap Toe " or "Turn Off The Taps". This tradition continued and evolved over the centuries to be a nightly ceremony that was designed to entertain in the summer months, Fast forward to modern days and it is a worldwide, mega event that celebrates the best drummers and musicians around the globe.

Mark is a master rudimental drummer and an extremely seasoned performer in the world of Tattoo's. This is a great episode about a topic that I knew absolutely nothing about. Mark is a great guy with a huge passion for drumming.

Here is the Washington Tattoo Facebook Page: https://www.facebook.com/TheWashingtonTattoo/

Check out the Washington Tattoo Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast/the-washington-tattoo-podcast/id1526474988

Enjoy this episode!

This is the full history of Bosphorus Cymbals - A traditional handmade Turkish cymbal brand that has been around since 1996, but has what seems like centuries of knowledge and expertise. The tale of Bosphorus is tied into the other major company that originated in Turkey that we all know about, but once they left the country many cymbal makers were left with a mastery of the art and that knowledge was passed on to the founders of Bosphorus Cymbals.

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Check out Bosphorus here: http://www.bosphoruscymbals.com/

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And be sure to visit your local drum shop and play some Bosphorus Cymbals!

Nicholas and I dissect 9 amazing audio examples of 1920's drummers including Zutty Singleton, Baby Dodds, Gene Krupa and many other greats in this episode. We also talk about that bizarre restrictions that were placed on drummers in the 20's in recording studios which is a fascinating and not largely known topic. We talk gear, playing styles, and the great musicians of the day and lots of other great information along the way.

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Nicks website is a great resource for everything you want to know about 1920's drummers - https://drumsinthetwenties.com/

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Be sure to check out Nick's latest release with the King Oliver Project - https://vitalityfive.bandcamp.com/album/the-king-oliver-project?fbclid=IwAR0I4s1-VFIIYI91_hDpCav2_A7hw1ZaPH1vvRyzCOT8O7_JC6-k6m8j-BU

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Here is the track listing of the songs we discuss in this episode:

1 - A Band Contest - John Lucas with Earl Fuller 1917

2 - Hot Lips - Unknown drummer with Synco Jazz Band 1922

3 - Washboard Blues - Jasper Taylor with Jimmie O Bryant 1925

4 - Willie The Weeper - Baby Dodds with Louis Armstrong's Hot 7 1927

5 - Eccentric - Vic Berton with Red Nichols 1927

6 - Kansas City Stomps - Tommy Benford with Jelly Roll Morton 1928

7 - Fireworks - Zutty Singleton with Louis Armstrong's Hot 5 1927

8 - Alabama Stomp - Vic Berton with Red Nichols 1927

9 - 9 Shimmy-Sha-Wabble - Gene Krupa with Miff Mole 1928

This is an in-depth look at Electronic Drums dating back to the 1960's with Justin Greenawalt of 65 Drums on YouTube. Justin has an incredible passion and knowledge for e-drums and he has done tons of research to understand the full history of the instrument and shares it with us to cover each decade of the history and we end with discussing what we can look forward to in the future of electronic drum kits.

Here are the links to Justin's extremely detailed and great videos on the history of e-drums that sparked this episode:

Part 1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t7QOOckjHE0

Part 2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aCJX0b-v1Kw

Part 3: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q5PrMTCvk_0

Part 4: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dTsCqxkYzMM

Part 5: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fDqlWiJJVtY&t=701s

Part 6: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5nqLgyGFQ7o

Enjoy this episode!

Tony Williams began playing professionally at the young age of 13, but he gained international attention when he joined the Miles Davis Quintet at age 17. My guest, Dave Goodman, wrote his 100,000 word doctoral thesis on Tony and we have condensed all that great information into an hour long episode that covers Tony's early life, lessons with Alan Dawson, rise to fame, evolution of his equipment, and everything you would want to know about the great Tony Williams.

Dave Goodman is located in Sydney Australia and is a professional drummer, educator and clinician. You can find Dave at his home on the web - www.davegoodman.com.au

You can download Daves full doctoral thesis here: https://ses.library.usyd.edu.au/handle/2123/7797

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Tama's parent company, Hoshino Gakki, dates back 113 years to 1908 in Japan where it started a book and sheet music seller. Hoshino then entered the world of distribution and later instrument production with the Spanish guitar brand - Ibanez. Hoshino didn't enter the drum world until the early 60's as Star Drums, and the world was never the same. Star was a leader in the "Made in Japan" revolution of drums, until the 1970's when star transitioned to Tama Drums and they became a major player in the world of professional drums.

John Palmer, Sales Strategist at Hoshno USA, tells us all about the way that Tama came roaring onto the drum scene and gave the American brands a scare and changed things forever. Tama is one of the most innovative brands in the history of drums and brought things to market such as booming cymbal stands, gong bass drums, octobons, and tons of other great innovations. This episode is full of really great information from every era of Tama. It has been a long time in the works and I am very glad to have it out in the world!

Check out everything Tama has to offer at: www.tama.com

The book I mentioned in this episode is not available for purchase but I will update everyone if Tama makes it more widely available.

Enjoy!

Freddie Gruber is known as the teacher of iconic drummers such as Neil Peart, Vinnie Colaiuta, Steve Smith, Dave Weckl, and my guest Bruce Becker. Freddie has somewhat of a mysterious background that wasn't well documented, but Bruce fills us in on what is known about his life and career, plus many great stories of what it what it was like to be on the inner circle of his friends. Freddie was a real character of a person and you really get a feel for that with this episode.

Bruce Becker is legendary teacher in his own right and really had one of the closest relationships with Freddie possible. If you would like to learn more about Bruce and take lessons with him, check out his website: www.brucebecker.com

Mike takes us back to the advent of the drum set and how people would learn to play in the early 1900's and how things have and haven't changed over the years. We go through each advancement in education including face to face lessons, lessons on records (LP's), drum books with CD's, drum tapes and DVD's, online lessons, and what the future holds for the world of drum lessons.

Mike Johnston is a leader in the world of online drum lessons and has a contagious passion for education. Check out everything Mike is doing at his website: Mikeslessons.com

Also, Mike hung around and recorded a bonus episode with me with tips and tricks on how to create better online lessons and drum videos. Sign up for patreon at www.patreon.com/drumhistorypodcast and get all the bonus episodes!

Brooks has recently released his long awaited book -"The Tools That Built The Gene Krupa Legend". After a decade of work, this is the be-all and end-all source for everything you would ever want to know about the most minute details of Genes life and equipment through his entire career. Brooks gives us a quick refresher biography of Gene and then he jumps into the details of how he put such a great resource together. We pick some key points of interest to spotlight as we talk about his gear and then dive deep into things like Genes Dynasonic, the rareness of REAL Gene Krupa equipment, how he spots fakes, and tons of other great info.

Check out the book here and Support Brooks via Hudson Digital: https://hudsonmusic.com/product/gk-the-tools-that-built-the-gene-krupa-legend/

Brooks was nice enough to share some more time with me to record a Patreon bonus episode all about Gene's career as a movie star in Hollywood and his celebrity status. You can hear all the bonus episodes by becoming a member of the Drum History Patreon here: www.patreon.com/drumhistorypodcast

This is a a unique episode that takes a deep dive into the history of acoustics as we know it today dating back to 6000 b.c. Thomas is a French drum builder who makes extremely scientifically progressive and modern drums, but he is also a noise vibration and harshness engineering expert in the automotive industry. All of that combines together for a passion for how acoustics have changed over thousands of years and how it effects drums in 2021.

Check out Thomas' drum brand here: www.repurcussion.fr

If you would like to hear more, be sure to check out the Patreon bonus episode where we learn all about Thomas' career in the automative and aerospace industry and more of a deep dive into his drum brand by becoming a patron at www.patreon.com/drumhistorypodcast

Thanks for listening!

The iconic 5000 pedal dates back to the early 1940's where it was created by the Martin Fleetfoot company, and it has been a staple of the drum world ever since. The 80 year history has many twists and turns until it reaches the modern DW 5000 pedal that we all know and love. Vincent tells us all about each and every era of the pedal including Gretsch, George Way, Camco, Rogers, John Gray, Tama, and DW and many more. The impact that this one pedal design has had on the drum world is unbelievable - learn the full story in this episode!

Vincent is the owner and operator of Vitalizer Drums and is a master restorer of vintage pedals including Ludwig Speed King's, a variety of 5000 pedals, and other vintage hardware. Check out his website here: www.vitalizerdrums.com

***If you like this episode and want to hear a 45 minute bonus episode where Vincent and I talk even more about 5000 pedals and the many pedals that have been based on its design, DW history, and other great drum info - Join Patreon to get access to this special episode!*** Join here - https://www.patreon.com/drumhistorypodcast

Pete Magadini is a modern legend as a teacher and clinician who has taught drummers such as Michael Shrieve, Chad Wackerman, Mike Johnston and many more. He is also a very established performer who has worked with artists such as Diana Ross, George Duke, Al Jarreau, and many more. He shares his approachable theory on Polyrhythms and many other great lessons on life and drumming and the story of his career and rise as a top teacher.

Here are links for this episode:

Petes Website:

http://www.petermagadini.com/

George Duke album ft. Pete (kind of a drummers underground classic)

https://bit.ly/2DkbITA

Polyrhythms The Musicians Guide

https://www.amazon.com/Polyrhythms-Musicians-Guide-Peter-Magadini-ebook/dp/B002FL4R0Q/ref=sr_1_2?dchild=1&keywords=Peter+Magadini&qid=1589932344&sr=8-2

Polyrhythms For The Drumset

https://www.amazon.com/Polyrhythms-Drumset-Book-Peter-Magadini/dp/089724821X/ref=sr_1_5?dchild=1&keywords=Peter+Magadini&qid=1589932344&sr=8-5

All In One Learn To Play The Drumset

https://www.amazon.com/Learn-Play-Drumset-All-One/dp/1495088766/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=Peter+Magadini&qid=1589932344&sr=8-1

Cocktail drum kits date back to post World War 2 in an orchestra pit in England where space is at a premium and the drums needed to grow taller, as opposed to wider. the "stand up drum set" evolved from there and became a staple of jazz lounges, street performers, comedy acts and many great drummers who wanted a unique look and feel to the drums they play.

John Mettam is the founder of cocktaildrum.com and a longtime performer and cocktail kit enthusiast. He shares the full story of these iconic drum sets with us year by year as we go through the catalogs of Slingerland, Gretsch, Leedy, Rogers, and Ludwig. This is a great history filled episode with tons of fun stories throughout.

follow along at www.cocktaildrum.com under the catalogs tab

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Jerry was the drummer for the iconic "A Charlie Brown Christmas" soundtrack and he shares the story of the writing and recording of the album and great info on the creation of the TV special. He tells us about how he wanted nothing to do with Charlie Brown for 30 years, until he came to the realization that he has made millions of happy people and he should embrace it. We also hear the full story of his illustrious career and his background in drumming.

You can learn more about Jerry at his website: https://jerrygranelli.com/

Happy holidays and enjoy this episode!

We are lead to believe that the bass drum pedal was invented in the USA, and that the drum set as we know it today was first created in the states - but Fritz shares examples that show many revolutionary drum inventions that were first created in Europe. We also discuss brands like Sonor, Trixon, Paiste, plus drumming and drum building in communist countries and many other great facts and stories along the way.

Fritz is a veteran in the drum industry and has owned and operated DrumHouse Freiberg since 2001 in Germany. He brings a very unique knowledge base to the show and shares lots of information that I have never heard anywhere else. Check out the DrumHouse here: https://www.drumhouse.com/

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Orion was a 14 year old drummer boy in the Civil War when he earned the Medal of Honor for an extremely courageous act in battle. Marlene Shares his amazing story that begins when he enters the war at 12 years old through the rest of his life, and the lives of his musical family. We learn all about drummer boys and the role they played in the war, including Johnny Clem - the youngest noncommisioned officer in army history who began as a drummer.

Marlene wrote "Diary of a Drummer Boy" which is Orion's amazing true story written in a diary format. She provides a great perspective on these heroic young drummers and paints a great picture of what life was like for these boys, including playing games on the battle field and putting their lives in danger on a daily basis.