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Joan Jett plus Circus Lupus equals magic! Who knew? Join Brian and Scott as they rhapsodize about the greatness of this strange 7'. Later in then show singer Chris Thomson and bassist Seth Lorinczi join us for a wild ride of a conversation about meeting Joan, playing crazy shows and the recording and reception of the Pop Man record. What else are you gonna do with the next three hours of your life?

Surprise, surprise, two in a row for these guys! Severin follow up their album debut with this quiet classic. Join Drew, Scott and me for a discussion of such important questions as "what exactly IS a speaking oyster?" and "what's the perfect Gray Matter to Severin ratio?". Its all here.

This episode Drew and I dust off the ashes of obscurity, and talk about this mostly unheard deep cut in the Dischord catalog. Later the boys in the band join to discuss being a DC band in the early 90s. Stay tuned!

Coconspirator Scott joins us once again, to discuss the Nation Of Ulysses swan song LP. We couldn't interrogate any band members this episode, so the three of us do our best to contextualize and deconstruct this perpetual motion machine of a document. 

OK folks, here's part two of our very special episode celebrating one of the best records in the entire Dischord catalog. Not only does the show feature Drew and I pontificating our asses off, as usual, but most importantly we talk to the mighty Guy Picciotto! If you are the least bit into Fugazi, this is one not to be missed.

In part one of our mammoth IOTK journey, Drew and I dive deep as usual, with many side-roads long the way (as usual), then we talk with one of the all time best producers of the 80s and 90s, Ted Niceley. He shares his memories of and opinions about producing this stone classic record. And stay tuned for part two coming soon, which will feature an interview with another person involved with making this lp.

Wow, we are really deep in middle of a  streak of classic Dischord releases. This episode we go under the hood of Jawbox's first full length with Bill Barbot on second guitar and vocals. This is a portrait of a band firing on all cylinders. Join Drew and I in this conversational vortex. Later in the episode, guitarist and main songwriter J Robbins stops by the EOE studios to discuss this record, the times and wax philosophic on the meaning of music. 

Well, this is a different release for Dischord, albeit a split release (of a split record). This may just be the first 7" of all previously released material. At least it's of two great bands. This episode, friend of the pod, Scott Sheridan joins us for a chat about the two bands and the songs they chose to represent their new material. We also include an unaired clip from the Mark and Dante interview, chatting about this record. 

This episode we are sadly coming to the end of yet another long-running early Dischord band, the incredible Gray Matter. At least they went out with a bang, namely Thog. Drew and I attempt to uncover the many mysteries surrounding this release (the title, the cover, etc.), then we talk to guitarist Mark Haggerty and drummer Dante Ferrando. Don't be afraid.

Holy rain covered cat! This episode is one of the ones I am most proud to share. Here at EOE headquarters,  it's no surprise how much we love this band and this record, so it was a complete labor of love and honor to get to go so deep with it and with the band. That's right, the entire band!There's even a surprise at the end of the journey/episode for all those brave enough to traverse to the bitter/sweet end. Join Drew and I as we talk until our jaws hurt. As an added bonus, James Parker (from Yeast) tells us about why this is his all time favorite Dischord release in a return of our quick-hit segment. Come on in, the waters...strange.

The journey to the writhing heart of the cosmos begins here...
Or at least the soundtrack, thereof. This episode Drew, Scott Sheridan and myself talk about the CD that collects the first two Lungfish releases. To say I'm excited about this episode is a gross understatement. Spoiler alert ; Lungfish = Brian's favorite band. As with most CD episodes, Scott saves the day (and your ears), by bringing a fresh perspective and enthusiasm to our musings. Later on the show, Chris Richards from Q and not U (and great writer for the Washington Post, among others) chimes in with some rapid-fire insight and humor on the band and this release. Hop onboard and tune into the Broadcast....

This episode Drew and I examine a release that perhaps has fallen between the cracks of history, Dischord's first 10" and Autoclave's second record. I think this is an ep everyone interested in 90s Dischord needs to hear. Later in the show I talk to Christina Billotte and Nikki Chapman from the band. Do yourself a favor and listen to this and then listen to them.

This episode is a milestone of sorts. On it, we discuss the first album by one of my all time favorite bands (of any genre). The almighty and mysterious Lungfish. Do yourselves a favor and go listen to the record (right after the episode)!

This episode we welcome Drew and Scott back to the table to help cover for Jeff's absence. They're two stand up (not comedian) guys. We discuss the Beefeater body of work and legacy, as well as talk to three of the founding members in hour three of the show. Strap in. Long live Fred "Freak" Smith!

So this is sadly Jeff's last episode before he goes on a "indefinite Hiatus". His voice will be missed, but his large spirit will still haunt the halls of the EOE studios. This episode we speak about Circus Lupus for the first time. Damn, this band was game changing for me and lots of folks. Fractured and feral, cerebral and bloody. Super Genius is one of the great Dischord debuts. Vocalist Chris Thomson stops by later in the show to fill in some of his musical history and share some stories of the formation of Circus Lupus. This is to be missed at your own peril. 

100 Episodes, who knew?! Not me, but it's been a fun and deeply rewarding journey thus far. Can't wit to see where we are by episode 200. On today's show we talk to Tim Green about 1991  : the year Ulysses went broke. Jeff and I wrestle with this odd duck of a release and come out the other side mostly unscathed. Tim is the perfect guest for our 100th, as he's been on the show the most, and is one of my favorite folks to virtually hang with. It was over 100 degrees during recording, so there are a few moments of  meltdown, both audio and host-wise. Hope you enjoy. Thank you from the bottom of my heart for listening this far....

This episode we talk about a new band for the show, Desiderata, who put out this one record, was on a couple comps and released a demo. We celebrate the spirit and energy of this young band, and later in the show we had the pleasure of talking to vocalist Amanda MacKaye. We discuss this record, this band and then go down the rabbit hole on many subjects close to her large heart and fierce mind. This is one for the books!

This episode we talk about the 7' that ushered in what a lot of folks would call Jawbox's golden period. As usual, we find a way to talk about two tracks for two and a half hours. Vocalist/guitarist J Robbins joins us for the second half of the show to talk about these recordings and his thoughts on everything from songwriting inspirations to leather vests and Soundgarden. Buckle up, it's a rocking ride!

It's always fun to get to a new band in the Dischord roster. Today we talk about Autoclave's first record, a split with K. Unfortunately no guests this episode, but me and Jeff find plenty to say (surprise, surprise) about the second all woman band to release a record on Dischord. 

it's always a treat when we reach the Fugazi episodes. On today's show, we explore their second full length, Steady Diet Of Nothing. This is sometimes regarded as something of a dark horse in their catalog. We hope to have a hand in rectifying it's place in the canon. As you can see by the episode's length, we have a lot to say about this one. Friend of the show, Dr Drew Lichtenberg, drops by to weigh in on Guy's tracks on the album. Finally, we talk with bassist Joe Lally about the record and his philosophy of music and life. We'll meet you at the exit....

Once again we are joined by the illustrious Dr Drew Lichtenberg, as the co-host to the cohost, to discuss the still fresh Holy Rollers CD (that compiles their first two albums). Find out the question on everyone's lips, "which lp does Brian prefer? Jeff? Drew? And as per our contracts, we also diverge into many side topics about punk at large, other releases, scene politics etc.

From the ashes, Gray Matter rose again, at the dawn of the 90s and just in time to release one of their most raw, rocking releases yet. This double 7" was an explosion of energy as well as a  declaration of life and intent. Jeff and I take our usual meandering tour through our psyches and record collections on the way to digging into and throughly digging these discs. Then we're joined by the always gracious and intelligent Mark Haggerty (guitar) and Dante Ferrando (drums). Always a treaty at EOE studios when I get to revisit Gray Matter and talk to these kind folks.

With an iconic, unforgettable cover and huge production, the Holy Rollers second album really cemented their place in the Dischord family. Three members, three singers and multiple layers of music here. Find out what Jeff and I think of this one and hear guitarist/singer Marc Lambiotte go into the band's mindset and approach, as well as give some context for the times and some of the songs. Enjoy!

As we get deeper into the 90s era on the show, we meet another new band, Severin. New music, but not necessarily new faces. We talk to singer/guitarist, Alec Bourgeois and guitarist Mark Haggerty about the origins of the band and their first release. Spoiler alert, Jeff and I dig it. Listen in for our take on how this band brings more elements into the Dischord formula and expands the label's parameters. 

The revolution will not be broadcast. Turn off your radios. The teens have taken over! This episode we dismantle the dismantlers audio tract, 13 Point Program To Destroy America by Nation of Ulysses. There was a lot to discuss this week as we let the sugar and caffeine do their thing. Joining us after the revolutionary exogesis, is NOU guitarist Tim Green. Join the political party and dance the state away. 

Looking for the most hardcore release on Dischord? Look no farther. The High Back Chairs were so hardcore, they didn't need to scream or pretend not to care about hooks. This record is a lost power pop gem. Truly. Listen to us discuss the merits and mysteries of the record. Our resident academic, Drew Lichtenberg, drops in to give his breakdown of the band and we talk to everyone in said band, except their elusive drummer. A guy who was in a few bands. Anyhow, hope you enjoy this episode and it inspires a few folks to either buy this or dig it out of their collection to give it another spin and another chance. 

I've got to say, it's great to have a chance and excuse to  explore the liminal worlds of Shudder To Think even further. They're always one of my favorite groups to interview so it was great to catch up with Craig, Stu, Chris and Mike again. And don't worry, it's not me and Jeff rehashing the same things we said last episode about the release. We got our friends Drew Lichtenberg and Scott Sheridan to drop by and drop the needle for us (i.e- break down their thoughts on the release and the band). Hope its as much fun to listen to as it was to record!

One of my favorite Dischord releases of this era, Shudder To Think's "funeral At The Movies" is the subject of today's show. No guests this week, so Jeff and I get caffeinated and go deep and wide with this one. Next episode's guests more than make up for this week's dearth. 

Holy Baker, our second longest episode ever! Two albums, one CD. Two guests, one vision. Two cohosts, one long spew of commentary. Well, if any band or release deserves an extra long deep dive, it's this one. Mike Gitter always brings great historic insight and was something of a hardcore Zelig. Peter Cortner needs no introduction. One of the most recognizable voices and singer on one of the most beloved Dischord releases. He doesn't do many interviews and it meant the world that he agreed to be a part of this episode. Listen all at once or in 
convenient bite-sized chunks!

We begin 1991 on the show with our Jawbox "Grippe" episode. Because of some last minute hold ups we don't have any interviews this time, just Jeff and I blabbing and pontificating form a couple hours and some change. The recent recut of the album is a great upgrade in sonics. Hear if we agree on our takes (hint - we don't) on this important release, Apologies for Jeff sounding like he beaned in on an AM signal for this (we're working out the bugs with his mic).

Wrapping up the early Soulside catalog with this comp CD, we take an overview of the band's trajectory and anticipate the upcoming lp. These guys were an important link in DC punk for me, both musically and spiritually. Hopefully this episode does them justice. Thankfully, Bobby Sullivan swings by the EOE offices to share his perspective and stories on the early days of Soulside. I've got to admit, I'm pretty proud of this episode. 

Everyone's favorite Dischord band's second release is celebrated on this episode! The Snakes final record "Happy". In all seriousness, this is a bit of a hidden gem of the catalog. Catchy power-pop careens against moody new wave and ornate 60s pop has babies with 80s dance music. Such is the world of Michael Hampton and Simon Jacobson's bedroom project gone awry. It was an honor to talk to Hampton, one of the most creative and melodic guitarists to emerge from the DC scene. Ben Merlis cohosts this one!

The time has come...when worlds (or Brian's podcasts) collide. This episode Brian and Jeff talk about the debut from the almighty Lungfish. Strap in with your space goggles and bible. Dischord goes prophetic. Later in the show Mitchell Feldstein and Lawrence Bertoldi chime in on this record and time/space via clips from Brian's podcast The Unanimous Hour!

If you've already posted your Dischord 200 pics to social media and listened to the bonus disc included, you may be searching for somehow more archival Ian-related music from before the storm of Revolution Summer hit. Look no farther! The Skewbald/Grand Union 7" is your ticket to four minutes of "what if?" bliss. That's the subject of today's show and you may be surprised by our somewhat hot takes on the recording. Friend of the show (and vocalist for Locked Inside) Ed Mckirdy also drops some thoughts on the release, Come on in, everyones' invited!

We've already done shows on both of the releases compiled on this CD, but somehow we found more to say (believe it or not,..). No guests this go round, just Brian and Jeff battling it out about Gray Matter. Listen in on the perpetual argument!

This week we take the time machine back to 1985 for Gray Matter's debut lp, Food For Thought. Echoes of 60s garage, early 70s rock and late 70s English punk infuse the sound of these old soul high school kids  on this album. In addition to digging in track by track with Jeff, we talk to producer, R and B label owner and bassist extraordinaire Bert Queiroz.

It's always been a mystery to me, why Fidelity Jones never fully got their due. This band was driven, righteous, fierce musicians and a band that always brought it live. Maybe it was that the first record didn't fully capture the magic they were capable of. Thank God they put this single out, to set things right. This is damn near perfect piece of plastic. Hopefully this show can help bring some new folks to the band and inspire some to revisit the band's spiritual protest songs. We got to sit down with everyone in the band a second time and this episode also features a track of Tomas/Onam's impossible to find solo lp (featuring all of Fidelity Jones on this track). Give this a listen and get ready to be inspired!

And so it begins,...the next chapter of punk to come. Nation Of Ulysses were many contradictory impulses at once. A raw howl of primal punk noise, a highly literate and clever underground resistance philosophy disguised as a hardcore group of teens, a highly self conscious group of outsiders dressing as the hipster elite, a movement, a band, an art movement. Were they successful? Did they live up to their lofty aims? Did any of them get "canceled"? Many mysteries without answers. Anyhow, today we  go undercover and infiltrate the cult of Ulysses. Can't say it wasn't unexpectedly a blast. Guitarist Tim Green fills us in on what it was like on the inside of this worldwide organization. This isn't your parent's Dateline...

Spoiler Alert : We love Shudder To Think! Thusly, it was an honor and blast to dive into the liminal state of this record's environs, as well as speak with the entire band. Episodes like this one are the reason I do this podcast. Enjoy! 

As we move into the 90s Dschord catalog and start a brand new year, what better way than with a band that pretty much epitomized the 90s post hc sound. that's right, we've finally arrived at the beginning of the Jawbox dynasty. Along for the ride this week is drummer Adam Wade, who drummed in not one, but two of the best bands of that era (Jawbox and Shudder To Think, respectively). Come for the stories, stay for the music!

We've come to the third movie ( oops, I mean compact disc) in the Repeater Trilogy! This is the capstone on the blather from Jeff and I on this release, plus we had a special guest cohost with us this time. That's right, it's the return of Aldred to the show. If all that weren't enough, Repeater producer Ted Niceley joins us for a third time, as well. Artie Phillie talks with Jeff about booking Fugazi and his old band, Indecision, covering them, and Josh Erickson, who runs the We Need An Instrument Instagram page, drops by to talk about what the band and this record mean to him. its a power packed episode folks!

Damn, no need for words up top on this one. I think everyone knows how massive and how important this release is. Not sure four hours and change was enough time to cover it all, ha. This episode features-art one of a two part Ted Nicely interview about producing Repeaeter. One of my favorite interviews of his. 1-2-3-go! 

3 Songs! Two hosts! One interview! No bullshit! 
Join us as we navigate the contours of Fugazi's 3rd release, talk to producer Ted Niceley and miraculously keep it concise. 

This week we dig into the Holy Rollers' first LP, As Is. This one was a pleasant surprise. Lots of hidden gems to discover if you take the time with this band. Jeff and I are joined by a couple of members of the Patreon group (Drew Lichtenberg and Scott Sheridan) to roundtable the discussion and we had blast! Right after the record talk, we chat with Holy Rollers guitarist, Marc Lambiotte. Stay connected, stay involved, stay in touch!

One of the sleeper gems of the Dischord catalog here. It was a fun conversation/listen/full band interview. Where else are you going to hear talk of Jethro Tull, the Shakers, veganism and Mothers Finest on a podcast about one record?

Some could argue that Dischord is the house that Minor threat built. None could argue with their place in the cannon of the greatest heavy bands of the 20th century. Join us as we tiptoe through the hits on this career spanning episode, As an added bonus, Ben "Edge" Merlis guest stars as third cohost. Luke Dolan from Latest God stops by. As does Mark Haggerty from iron Cross and Gray Matter. Lastly, Jason Hamacher reminds us "there's no place like home,...". It's a rip roaring good time

With this episode, we come to the final transmission of the great Ignition. Perhaps the most realized release? You'll have to tune in to find out. Jeff and I really go under the hood with this one, pulling spark plugs and kicking tires and all that jazz. We had the pleasure of talking to drummer Dante Ferrando and also hearing about Rudi Jung's love of the band, as well as how they were involved in a life changing event for him. This is one not to be missed!

On today's episode we dive into Dischord number...oh wait, this is another surprise non-Dischord episode! I know we said we would save these for Patreon, but this was too much fun and we wanted to share a chunk of the Patreon interview with Geoff Farina with you here. Karate is a band that seems to get better with age, and so thank god Numero Group is in the process of reissuing their catalog. Anyhow, pull up a chair and listen to Jeff and I wax poetic about the band, then listen to the beginning of my conversation with its leader/guitarist/vocalist - Geoff Farina. If you want to hear more from him (and access much more bonus content and zoom hangs) check out End On End Extras Club on Patreon. 

This week we discuss an album ahead of it's time, and if our times have caught up. That's right, Soulside's Hot Bodi Gram. This one took years to grow on me, but has stayed with me longer and deeper than the rest of the records in the band's catalog. Jeff and I peer under the hood and kick the tires own this one, then Scott Torguson (Amber Inn/Wet The Rope) drops by to talk about his longstanding love for the record, and finally the boys in the band discuss the tour and record that tore them apart, but also cemented their legacy. They also go deep about how those times affected and ,in some ways, directed their lives since. Finally they speak of how inspired they are to be writing new music together and continuing their journey of exploration together. Check it!

Fire Party created some of the most challenging and forward-thinking music to come out on Dischord. They are also criminally underrated. Hopefully we can help do something about that. These four women are some of the most thoughtful, connected and artistically minded folks I've talked to. It was a pleasure to catch up with them again and fill in the gaps in the Fire Party narrative. Listen to this record as soon as you finish the episode! Moderately loud.

Today we're talking about another landmark Dischord release. Fugazi's compilation of the first two 12's on one CD, "13 Songs". Joining us this week is a virtual calvacade  of guests talking about what this disc meant to them. This episode features clips from author/musician/EOE guest cohost Ben Merlis and Ian James Wright from The Alphabetical Fugazi podcast. We also had conversations with Chris Shary (artist extraordinaire), Scott Hicks (Totally Slow/Rights Reserved) and Greg Raelson (Celebration Summer). This band and this release has left an indelible imprint on innumerable peoples' lives, including ours!

This week we're incredibly excited to serve up another serving of Fugazi. We had a blast dissecting and ingesting their second release, Margin Walker. And we talked to Joe #1! Even for the hardcore Fugazi-heads, I guarantee there's a few things in this episode that you probably didn't know! I know I learned a few things. Take the ride....

Back for more Soulside! There's no such thing as too much, in my opinion. And this little gem of a record was truly important to my youth and conception of what you could accomplish with hardcore. Guitarist Scott McCloud and drummer Alexis Fleisig drop by and drop some science. We're excited to share this one with you guys. Yo, check this out (and leave your power tools at home)!

This episode Jeff and Brian explore the unchartered territory of the Holy Rollers. It's always fun to begin the journey of a new band on the show, and this one's no different. An unconventional and convincingly rocking power trio, the Holy Rollers brought new blood and a new mixture of influences to Dischord. Tune in for our thoughts on their Geoff Turner produced initial foray. 

On today's episode Brian and Jeff dig out and dig one the most unheard and underrated Dischord releases, #33 1/3 "Post Humorous Relief" by the Vile Cherubs. Most of the members went on to play in much celebrated later DC bands, but this is one of those hidden gems of a record that hopefully we can shine a light on and get folks to search it out. Mixing 60s inspired riffs with punk rock energy, these guys were both ahead of and out of time. It was incredibly cool to get to interview Jesse, Seth and Tim for the show. Hope you folks enjoy and explore the raw, psychedelic and raucous sounds of the Vile Cherubs!

If you have not yet heard this album, go find it online and listen to that before listening to this! This is one of those LPs I think everyone should hear, especially if you are a fan of the music and asthetic Dischord embodies. Dark Days Coming is that good. It was a joy to talk to Geoff Turner and Mark Haggerty again, and even better to have Steve Niles along for the conversational journey, as well. With Jeff Nelson, these three (3) guys made up one of the best, tightest and most tuneful short-lived Dischord bands. They left behind this amazing document of their intense effort, which features one of the all-time greatest songs released on this label. Since we were talking to three of the 3 this week, we figured we needed to be three strong, so we enlisted the humorous and insightful help of Ben Merlis for the breakdown and talk about the LP. Trust me, this one is "must listen" material!

So on this episode we flip over the record and dig into side two of the State Of The Union compilation. Guest and comp curator Mark Andersen (Positive Force/We Are Family/Dance Of Days)  returns to drop some more background on these tracks and share his PMA and inspiration!

This episode we dig into the fertile soil of late 80's era DC punk and the social activism that sprouted around it, through the portal of Dischord's second compilation, State Of The Union. We also have an in depth interview with Positive Force founder/Dance Of Days author/We Are Family cofounder Mark Andersen. Did If you aren't moved and inspired by his words, we'll refund your money in full!

We knew this day would come...the day we couldn't herd any Dischord cats onto the show for an episode. Truth be told, this is more like the third or fourth time. Regardless, on today's show Jeff and I had a blast navigating the murky (production) waters of  the by turns brilliant, by turns frustrating Ignition LP. After last week's five hour show, it felt relatively relaxing to spend a mere couple hours on Ignition. They were one of the best live bands of their time.

Hard to believe we're already at the first Fugazi record. This one was huge for us (and we're not just talking the length of the episode!). Join Brian, Jeff and recurring guest/cohost Ben, if you dare. No doubt this is a long ride, but well worth the time invested. Not only do you get to hear us all rap elegiac about this perfect 12", but  Fugazi producer, Ted Nicely lends his time and insight into the making of this classic. Later in the show we have an engaging and thoughtful conversation with Guy Picciotto. Listen in chunks! 

Soulside are back! Trigger is a record that needs to be in everyone's collection. Way ahead of it's time sonically, lyrically and philosophically. Listen to Brian and guest cohost Greg break down just how important this release is and what it means to them personally. We also had the great honor of speaking to three fourths of the band, singer Bobby Sullivan, bassist Johnny Temple and drummer Alexis Fleisig. Listen to this, then go listen to the record! That's an order. 

Today on the show Brian and Jeff discuss the layered, primal expression of Fire Party. Yes, they were the first all female Dischord band, but that is only one part of the story. These women created some of the most accomplished and under appreciated music on the label. Hopefully this episode will encourage more folks to discover (or re-discover) their burning brilliance. It was a real gift to get the whole band together for the interview, and this was one of the most rewarding episodes for me. The world needs more bands like Fire Party. Hard to believe this episode also marks the one year mark of Jeff's first appearance on the show. I honestly don't know how I could've done this without such an intelligent, opinionated and sensitive cohost. Here's to many more years of exploration together, my friend. 

Today we get to talk about the greatest hardcore band ever once again. Minor Threat! Along for the ride into the weeds is Ben Merlis. Later Jim Saah (Legendary photographer/coproducer of the Salad Days documentary) joins us for a talk about what the band meant to him, as well as how and why he's been documenting the DC scene since 1982!

Wow, it's hard to believe we're already moving into the next era of Dischord history with this release. Welcome to 1988, this record heralded a sound and spirit unlike anything you've heard before in DC or on Dischord. This is a feral, untamed and unashamed beautiful beast of a vibration. It spoke of possibilities and dreams, of angelic harmonies and swirling energy. Join us for the origin story of this most unusual jewel in the label's crown, as Brian and Jeff uncover the magic and later talk to singer Craig Wedren and bassist Stuart Hill! 

No interviews this episode, but plenty to talk about, when you're talking about a band as melodic, volatile, energetic and politically minded as Ignition! Is one of these tracks one of the best punk songs of the 80's? Only one way to find out. Listen on, fearless poDCore fans. We unveil a long lost Doc Hopper cover, hear from Mark O' Conner (Daycare Swindlers) and Tim Green (Nation Of Ulysses/Vile Cherubs) and "mad" Ben Merlis crashes the party. Two songs, two hours, too much fun! 

This record is probably one of the most popular releases on the label. Wig Out challenged conventions and stretched boundaries. Was it too far or the proverbial sweet spot? This episode we explore these questions and more. We go under the hood on Dag Nasty's second album, Wig Out At Denkos with bassist Doug Carrion (Dag Nasty/Descendents/Field Day), singer Kevin Egan (Beyond/1.6 Band) and podcasters Dom and Sam from the Bad Music Taste podcast.Can't believe we made it to 50. Here's to 100! If you enjoy the show, consider helping support our efforts on Patreon at the End On End Extras Club! 

Scream's third album was a bold and ambitious statement. On it, they embraced their rock roots and dug into their populist convictions. This record ages better than one would expect. Join Brian and Jeff as they navigate it's adventuous waters. Skeeter Enoch Thompson returns for  a very heartfelt and entertaining conversation. Our brother in arms in the hardcore podcasting universes,Greg Polard, from the Where It Went pod, also teams up with the boys to discuss all things Scream-team. See you guys at 50!

Embrace weren't long for this world, but in their just-shy-of-a-year existence they created some of the most enduring, vulnerable and explosive, yet  richly textured music in Dischord history. I never saw a good Embrace show. They were all ridiculously great! Drummer Ivor Hanson sits down with Brian in the virtual End On End studio and openly discusses the challenges and musical epiphanies he experienced during that heady time of exploration and Revolution Summer. Jim Spellman (Foxhall Stacks/Velocity Girl/High Back Chairs) also waxes elegantly on why this very LP is his all-time favorite Dischord release. And yes,...Jeff "Killer" Kaplan is back in the cohost seat!

Beefeater were an anomaly. A punk band who played gospel covers, a funk band who preached vegetarianism and spirituality, a social justice mobilization collective in the guise of a band. They were, above all, hard to pin down. Everyone listening to today's episode should hunt down the Youtube live footage after checking out the show. They were a force to be reckoned with live. It was great to virtually sit down with Onam (Tomas) and Dug again and hear the inspiration for the art they created and what they remember most about those days. Nicky, who played percussion and sang back ups on the final album (and was in Brian's first band!) also shares what the band meant to her. This episode is a triple header with three hosts, Brian, Ben and Jeff. Join us for a righteous show!

Marginal Man were a key DC band in the 80s. Their music fused razor sharp changes with hooks most bands would kill for. Live, they were pure unbridled energy and celebratory spirit. Having the chance to chat with 3/5 of the band for this episode meant a lot to me. Here's hoping we get a chance to speak with the rest of the band for their final release. Steve Polcari, "sweet" Pete Murray and Mike Manos are three of the most genuine guys I've met. Hope you enjoy the episode and more importantly, go listen to Marginal Man!

To me, Soulside really embodied conscious punk that pushed boundaries and spoke equally in metaphor and direct action. Today's album in question captures the sound and energy of a band about to take leap into the deep waters of vulnerable/strong self expression. You can almost hear their impatience to get there on this record. We hear from guitarist Scott McCloud about the history and motivations the band. Author Shawna Kenney drops by to talk Soulside memories and a special mystery guest also makes their presence loudly known. 

Brian and Ben revisit and reconsider the second and final record of Rites Of Spring’s short but intense incarnation. Ton Mullen, from Washed Up Emo, stops by to talk about why he loves this record, this band and even the dreaded “E” word. Brian’s friend, Jason Kooken also chimes in with a story about when he first heard this as a teen in the 80s Va suburbs. Contact us at : [email protected]

I truly wore this record out growing up. Join me and guest cohost, Ben Merlis for a deep dive into the making of Take It Back with guitarist/singer Geoff Turner and guitarist Mark Haggerty. They also discuss playing music together since early teen years and the history and future of the band. In case you hadn't noticed, this is officially the longest EOE episode to date. Don't be daunted, just listen to this the way I listen to any podcast, in bite-sized chunks. Enjoy!

On our second episode of 2021 we dive into Egg Hunt's complete catalog and career! This record is the two founders of Dischord's only post-Threat release. We examine the backstory of the recording date and even get some commentary from a member of the ill-fated band they tried to create out of these tracks. Then Todd Friend from H2O drops by the EOE headquarters to talk about why he loves this record. This is a blink and it's gone episode, so don't blink!

Spoiler alert : this is Jeff's favorite Dischord record...so it was a treat for him to sit down and talk to Dave Smalley for another in-depth interview, this time centering around the classic Dag Nasty era. Writer/professor Marc Bayard also drops by to discuss how Can I Say changed his life. We're pretty proud of this one!

Well, this was a big episode on many accounts. For one, we moved the rock that one of the Snakes was hiding under and uncovered some deep archeological alternative music history. It was great to hear Simon Jacobsen's stories of DC lore and lore of wild, studious prep school punk rock mischief. The Snakes were an anomaly in the scene and especially on Dischord. So what better episode to celebrate the month that marks the 40th year or Diischord records. We also talk to Dot Dash's dashing articulate epicurean bassist and author, Hunter Bennett. Finally, Ben Merlis chimes in on why the Snakes matter. Of course there's also many side roads in Brian and Jeff's crazy train conversations and both also share their top five releases for the year the world lost it's collective shit. See you next year, kids!

Hello, fancy meeting you here,...care to step into my 1985 time-machine? This one is steeped in high school energy and hardcore optimism, self determination and awkward yet genuine connection. Yes, this episode Brian fell face first into the nostalgia vortex (at Jeff's urging, of course). Other highlights include a by turns humorous, by turns philosophic conversation with Bobby Sullivan about the early days of Lunchmeat and how they transformed into Soulside. Chris Page articulates what the DC scene and Mission Impossible meant to him growing up, how and why they teamed up with Lunchmeat, as well as how those indelible days shaped the man he is today. Pod friend Aaron Pagdon also boldly sets his flag on one side of the split and deftly backs up his potentially divisive claim. Funny how split releases always end up in conversations of which side is your favorite. I loved both of these bands equally live, but may have to agree with him on this one. Regardless, this is a still fresh blast of youthful exuberance from both bands. What I wouldn't give for a bottle of that uncorked energy!

This episode we take another divergence from the Dischord saga to celebrate Government Issue's first couple non-Dischord albums, Joyride and The Fun Just Never Ends. These were two records that meant a lot to me and it was a true pleasure to be able to get granular with the legendary Tom Lyle. This is the second installment of an interview series we're doing with Tom unspooling the DNA of GI's body of songs. Long live Stabb!

Today Jeff and I talk about one of the most divisive as well as important Dischord bands. These guys carved their own path and wore their heart and politics on their sleeve. One of the earliest progenitors of punk-funk, they also blended jazz and metal into their expression. I felt blessed to be able to talk to not just one, but all of the surviving members of Beefeater. They truly put the revolution in Revolution Summer. We also got to talk to one of my oldest friends, Lars from the DC band Thorns, about how Beefeater affected him and about living at the Positive Force house with Tomas and Dug. This show stirred many memories and much inspiration in this fool heart. Dedicated from the soul, to the memory of Fred "Freak" Smith!

Not much needs to be said about this one. Not much can be said. The self-titled Rites Of Spring LP is my all-time favorite Dischord release. It was an honor to have the opportunity to talk to Brendan Canty about the record and the band in general. We also got Matt Ryan (Bitter Branches/Calvary) to share a bit about what this record meant to him. "Drink deep..."

On this weeks show, we take another field trip. This time to Chicago (by way of Seattle and many other towns) to talk to the legendary Vic Bondi. He not only has a PHD in History, he helped create the genre of hardcore and talks with us about the history of the movement and also the history of politics in this country. We ended up talking mere hours after the announcement of the election results. Most of his musical projects are briefly covered and lots besides. Steve Hansgen also gives a mini-view about our feature artist in the Stepping Stones segment. Check it!

Reptile House occupied imaginal space outside the harDCore landscape, yet infiltrated it regularly. They trafficked in dark, psych-infused poetry driven by an engine of otherworldly postpunk propulsion. This band was the seed that sprouted Lungfish and introduced the world to one Daniel Strasser/Higgs, a shaman-poet in training. It was a pleasure to re-enter the Reptile House and talk to London May about the origins of the band, as well as his work with some other bands you may've heard of, as well as his acting career. Dan Higgs is also represented, from a portion of an interview I did with him for my other podcast, Out My Way. As if that weren't a lot already, London also let us premiere an unreleased track from the session for this EP. There are some occasional audio issues with this episode, but its worth weathering them for the content this week. See you guys in two weeks!

Those VA boys strike again!This time it was with an album that blew almost everything else at the time away. Scream were one of the hardest working bands around and with these songs and this recording, adding Harley to the lineup on second guitar, they took their songwriting to the next level (and in my mind, their absolute peak). Jeff and I discuss the bands brilliant second LP, though as usual, we take many side-roads to get there. Franz and Kent fill in the details they remember (these were decidedly not straight edge dudes, ya know). It was an honor to have the chance to gush about one of the defining records of the era for a few short hours!

Today we come to the end of an era for harDCore, Minor Threat's "Salad Days" release. In this mega-sode, Brian and Jeff have conversations with Jon Roa (Justice League/Eyerlid), comedian Chris Estrada and graphic designer Jeremy Dean (Jade Tree/Grateful Dead). We get input from a couple professional photographers and Steve Hansgen. It's only three songs, but yes, it takes the EOE boys four hours to explore every inch of every song. Time is an illusion. right?

This episode was a real treat for us. Don Zientara's importance as a producer cannot be overstated. He produced and engineered almost every single Dischord release. On this episode he talks about his philosophy of capturing a band's essence, tells a few funny stories from his early years and just generally really gives us a fly on the wall perspective into the Inner Ear control room.Listen all the way through, you won't regret it!

This week Brian and Jeff look back and laugh, with a little help from their friends. The topic and release is the LP collection of the first Eps by Teen Idles, SOA, Government Issue and Youth Brigade! Gather distantly social, around the campfire and listen to these tales from long, long ago about a mythical scene that was chockablock with heroes and villains and morality tales of timeless import. Starring  Nathan Stejcek as himself (Teen Idles/Youth Brigade), Barry Henssler as the comical sidekick (Necros), Gary Bennett as the whimsical scamp (Kill Your idols), Mark O' Connor as the star-crossed and misunderstood lover (Daycare Swindlers) and a very special apperance by  Vinny Segarra (Mint Tone Records) as the Catman from outer space. Come out of lockdown and hear this never-ending story of confusion and redemption. You might not regret it!

This week we cover one of my favorite live bands, Marginal Man. Jeff and I discuss how 'Identity" holds up 36 years latter, as well as go into a little off their history. I also talk about my experience seeing them a healthy amount and what the record meant to me growing up. We also had the immense pleasure ands honor of talking to singer, Steve Polcari. Strap in, folks, this is a good one!

Well, here we are, for our first of many revisits to the Minor Threat cannon. Today we talk to  amazing punk rock photographer, Kevin Salk, Gary Bennett (Kill Your Idols/Black Anvil) and Aesop Dekker (Hickey/Ludicra). Everyone chimes in on what makes Minor Threat so damn special and gives personal insight and stories around experiences with the band and their music. In a very short time, Minor Threat left a huge legacy of both great youth anthems and also a blueprint for how to conduct yourself as a band on a mission. 

Well, my conversation with Tim Kerr was so good I couldn't chop it up and leave so much of it unheard, so this episode starts exactly where the last one (and our talk) left off. In this one, he talks about his philosophy, his art and all the bands he did after Big Boys. He tells the story of Poison 13, Jack O' Fire, Monkeywrench, Lord High Fixers, Total Sound Group Direct Action Committee and Up Around the Sun,. This is not so much about DC, but is a great listen and Tim is a principled man of action, but also a large hearted guy who knows his way around a good story. 

This week Brian and Jeff take a field trip down to Austin, TX to talk to the legendary Tim Kerr. Tim is walking punk rock history and the embodiment of all that makes it a positive, creative force in the world (of course Tim prefers the term DIY to punk, but that is semantics). Tim has played in Big Boys, Poison 13, Jack O Fire, Monkeywrench, Lord High Fixers, King Sound Quartet, Now Time Delegation, Total Sound Group Direct Action Committee and Up Around The Sun. By the time you hear this, he'll have probably started a new musical project, painted a few paintings, a new mural and if not for Covid, put up a few touring bands in his house. Tim was a such a fun and inspiring man to talk to that we had to make sure you heard it all. This is part one. Expect part two later in the week. And go start your own band!!!

Faith are a band most lovers of the early years of Dischord can agree on, and a big reason, for those who didn't have the opportunity to see them live, is the record we talk about on today's show. This record withstands the gravity of history and sounds just as captivating and urgent today as it did in 1983. Why? Well, that is precisely the question this episode and everyone on it explores in some depth. Is it a call to arms? Is it a bold statement of emotional vulnerability and musical evolution? Is it the precursor to all things "emo"? Is it just a damn good punk record? Listen and find out. Chris Stover from Void joins us once again to talk about a band he cared about. Aaron Pagdon also stops by again to entertainingly tell us why this record is so important to him. No, once again we didn't get any of the band members to be on the show, but we are still very proud of what we cobbled together and glad to be able to celebrate this classic record with anyone who has ears to hear.

This weeks episode we take left turn into the twilight zone, and talk to Jay and Mike from the infamous and infinitely creative United Mutation. These guys were channeling some intense, scary, psychedelic and absurdist demons thought heir music. It was music that sought to exorcise the White House and liberate the underground. Along the way, they dropped the  arcane artifact we talk about in this "mini" episode, "Fugitive Family", another in the long line of Dischord algebra fraction releases. Both Jay and Mike shed insight on it's creation and intent and share some great stories, as well. Bring some water, this is a long journey through uncharted territory. 

This week we talk about the first release of the classic line-up of Government Issue, "Boycott Stabb". It's a record that was important to both me and Jeff growing up. GI were one of my favorite bands to see live. John Stabb was, by turns, thoroughly intense, vulnerable and hilarious on stage. Tom Lyle always played at a crushing volume with extreme precision. Marc Alberstadt was one of the best drummers of the era. The bassist slot was always rotating, but always excellent players. This record is, in many ways , the re-birth of the band and the beginning of GI mach 2. Some of their best songs start here. We were lucky enough to have a conversation with the architect of their sound, Tom Lyle, in what is hopefully the first of a series of conversations about this mighty band's career. Drew Stone also stops by, to speak about what this important record means to him. Join us for a peek behind the torn curtain. It's worth the risk and worth your time. John Stabb lives on in our hearts and on the recordings we are privileged to revisit. 

This week Brian and Jeff dig into the extremely underrated and even more rare Double O split releases on Dischord. These guys clearly had one foot in the past and one in the future. At least two of the tracks on it are stone classics. Brian talks to drummer Rich Moore and Jeff's friend/bandmate/musical mentor Aaron Pagdon chimes in with a fun record collecting story and an appreciation of the band. Here's hoping they find (and release) that second recording with Jason. 

Steve Hansgen has such an important story to tell that we couldn't limit it to one episode! On this deep dive into his work we revisit Minor Threat, as well as get into topics like his time in Government Issue, Second Wind, Emma Peel, and Sleep Of Reason. We also talk addiction, family, the nature of the scene and just what he's learned from all this. This is one of my personal favorite interviews. Enjoy!

Well, this week's release is another landmark in the Dischord catalog. When Minor Threat first pressed this, they sold 3500 copies in the first week. I'm not sure it's slowed down since. There's a reason. The music contained within is both revolutionary and timeless. These guys were firing on all cylinders by this point and there's simply no denying the ferocity and focused intensity of this LP. Every band member was arguably operating at the peak of their ability and this music still sounds fresh, relevant and powerful today. Jeff and Brian dive in talking about this release like the  overcaffinated music nerds they are. Then, after what may seem like an eternity to some, Steve Hansgen talks to Brian about what it was like jumping the dangerously fast train that was Minor Threat at the peak of their popularity and also their powers. He generously indulges Brian's relentless questions about what it was like touring and recording with such an intense (in every way) band. And what you hear here is just the appetizer. The full interview with Steve about Minor Threat and his life post-MT was three times as long as what we have in this episode. The rest of his honestly riveting conversation will be released next Tuesday as a special stand-alone episode, so keep your eyes peeled and your ear to the ground!

Today's episode is a special celebration of the Salad Days documentary, along with a longform interview with director and all around good guy, Scott Crawford.

Still Screaming part two! Skeeter Enoch Thompson! Bobby Madden!

Here we go with another record so good, so classic that we needed to do two episodes on it (otherwise it'd be a four and a half hour episode!). Still Screaming holds a special place in my heart and record collection. Songs of love and revolution, community and expression. Vocalist Pete Stahl stops by to fill in some history and catch us up on Scream Team's post-Corona plans for the next phase of the band. I really can't say enough about this one!

Dischord 8.5 is a controversial and musically important addition to the catalog. Iron Cross have left a fascinating and complicated legacy. Brian and Jeff dive in headfirst. We also talk to the man at the center of it all, Sab Grey. We also sit down with the very first and one of the last Iron Cross guitarists, Mark Haggerty and Mark Linskey. 

This week we confront the insanely addictive demons that inhabit side two of the landmark Faith/Void split LP. This one was close to both Brian and Jeff's hearts. Such ferocity and power has seldom been captured on vinyl. We rant and ramble as usual and also talk to Chris Stover (bassist of Void!), as well as Matthias Weeks (Current/Calvary/Ottawa) and John Sybert (Eye 95 Records/The Undecided). Be sure to leave a review if you enjoy the show and drop us a line at : [email protected]

This week Brian and Jeff drop the needle on one of the most celebrated split records of all time. In fact, this is another record that's just too good to tackle in one episode. So this week we talk side "F". The Faith side is really the prequel to the whole Revolution Summer era, as well as Youth Crew SxE and so much more. This side is truly an enigma with a complex and insular heart. Our guest, comedian Chris Estrada, gives great insight into what this record meant to him, also what it was like to grow up in South Central, LA listening to DC hardcore in the 90s and about the intersection of punk and comedy. Tim Lee, of the band Faith/Void also stops by to weigh in on the legacy of this split. Stay tuned for the Void side next week!

In this special episode Jeff shares the full interviews he did with three pillars of the Boston hardcore scene! 

Put on your seatbelts, kids.This episode we're taking a road trip up to Boston! Dischord 7.5 is SSD's "The Kids Will Have Their Say", a hands-down historic and game-changing record in early hXc. Al Barile expanded Ian's idea of straight edge from a personal statement into a social and political movement with this LP. We had the pleasure of talking to Nancy Barile (a key mover and shaker in both the early Philly and Boston scenes, who writes and speaks with passion and insight about those times), Al Barile crashes the interview in the best, most unexpected way possible, and we also briefly hear opinions on "Kids" from key figures in the Boston scene (Dave Smalley, Jonathan Anastas, and Mike Gitter)! 

Brian and Jeff go deep into the belly of the beast that is the second side of Flex Your Head. Join them as they scrape their ashes on the cave walls of DC music history. On their journey they talk to Pete Murray from Red C/Artificial Peace, Chris Stover from Void, Scott Crawford (director of the Salad Days documentary) and Sonny Kay from many bands (one of which even covered the entirety of Flex live!) and designer of the End On End logo. This is another long one, so you may want to strap in and bring plenty of water....

We've arrived at the landmark first Dischord LP. The compilation that introduced the world to mighty creativity and energy percolating in D.C. This episode introduces my new cohost, Jeff, as well as takes a deep dive into all the bands on side one of FYH. We also feature interviews with Barry Henssler, Andy Nystrom, Brian Gay and Danny Ingram! Stay tuned for more interviews and opinions when we turn the record over next week and get into side two.

Welcome back, Dischord aficionados, this music both shaped and changed my life, and hopefully these audio travelouges will deepen your appreciation of the house that Ian built, plus all the great music made in the surrounding areas. This week we tackle the raging blast called Youth Brigade. Aldred and I discuss their English (musical) roots, how "No Song (2)" is the hardcore version of John Cage's "Silence" and many other interesting, non-essential musings. Then,...the mighty Danny Ingram stops by the virtual Endhouse to discuss his take on DC punk, Covid-19, and his own personal and musical journey. He covers everything from his time in the Untouchables to Dot Dash. He's a natural storyteller, so you won't even notice that two hours have gone by during his interview. Enjoy! and as always, feel free to reach out to us on Facebook, Instagram or at [email protected].

This episode we cover the classic Dischord #5, with an abundance of commentary by Brian and Aldred, as well as insights by writer, comedian, and cultural geographer, Tyler Sonnichsen! Be sure to check out his book, "Capitals of Punk", if you enjoy this interview.

On this weeks episode we dig into the influential Necros release "IQ32". It was both the first Dischord half-release (with Touch and Go), as well as the first release by a non-D.C. band. Brian and Aldred chat about/debate over the best tracks on the 10 song EP, then talk to Barry Henssler, Necros frontman, Motorbooty writer and all around natural storyteller. Hope this as fun to listen to as it was to record!

This week is a surprise double episode exploring the first Government Issue release, "Legless Bull" (Dischord # 4). Brian and Aldred dive in and occasionally butt heads on this one. John Barry (guitarist extraordinaire) fills in lots of details and backstory regarding the first incarnation of GI. If you still haven't got your fix of GI's origin story, we continue the conversation with Brian Gay (low end navigator for the band) in the next episode. So, sit back and socially isolate with stories of DC's shamanic jester, John Stabb and the early days of harDCore!

Didn't get enough "Bull" last episode? Well, we've got an extra interview with bassist,Brian Gay. He's a great storyteller and insightful guy all around. This is truly not to be missed!

In this very special viral bonus, Brian Gathy and Aldred Basiga do what they should've done the first episode and provide a little background on who they are and why they care about this music (and each other). Warning : this one gets pretty raw, vulnerable and occasionally dark (just like real life!). Enter at your own risk!

On this episode we finally sink our teeth into the first hands-down classic release of the label. Prepare for the unbridled intensity and energy of the first Minor Threat EP. Unfortunately we have no guest this week on the show, but we make up for it with fun and insight. Play it faster!

On our second episode, Brian and Aldred discuss Dischord's second release, SOA "No Policy" as well as it's hidden "rock opera", the definition of straight edge and random facts about Henry Rollins. In the second half, Michael Hampton stops by to talk about growing up in the DC scene and the recording of the EP. Put your seatbelt on, it's a hell of a ride! Be sure to subscribe so you don't miss an episode and leave a review on Apple podcasts (it helps!).
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In our first "rough demo" of an episode, Nathan Stejcek (Teen Idles/Youth Brigade/ The Delarcos) joins us and shares many stories from the time of Dischord's inception, his time in Teen Idles, and what he's been up to lately. Before that, Aldred and Brian weigh in on "Minor Disturbance" and how it sounds to fresh ears 40 years later. Contact us at : [email protected]