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A podcast about the film industry that looks at both the films, and the industry. The show covers the writing, shooting, editing and reshooting of troubled films and tries to not only find out what happened, but why, sometimes in a single episode, sometimes over an entire season. Hosted by film writer Tansy Gardam, Going Rogue is all about the context and complications of making movies, and the often wild reasons that films are… like that.
You can support the show at Patreon.com/GoingRoguePodcast
The podcast Going Rogue is created by Tansy Gardam. The podcast and the artwork on this page are embedded on this page using the public podcast feed (RSS).
This is a preview of our Patreon bonus episode on Josh Zetumer's Gambit script - you can check out the full episode here
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The disastrous Star Wars Holiday Special aired exactly once, on November 17th 1978. For decades, George Lucas attempted to erase all trace of it from pop culture, and very nearly succeeded. So here’s an exhaustive history of how and why it happened.
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CLIPS USED:
Meet Boba Fett: Initial 1978 Costume Test
The Star Wars Holiday Special (1978)
The Donny and Marie Show: Star Wars Special (1977)
Bob Hope’s Scar Wars (from the Bob Hoope All Stars Comedy Special 1977)
George Lucas Video l Robot Chicken
MUSIC USED:
John Williams - Cantina Band
The Doors - The Alabama Song
“Leaving Home”, “Covert Affair”, “Backed Vibes Clean”, “Thinking Music”, “Cool Rock”, “The Hall of the Mountain King”, “Chill Wave”, “Holiday Weasel”, “Rock Hybrid”, “Malicious”, “Tango de Manzana”, “Prelude and Action”, “Peaceful Desolation”, “Bossa Antigua”, “On The Ground”, “Loopster”, “Rollin at 5”, “Rising”, “Odyssey”, “Deadly Roulette”, “Morgana Rides”, “Floating Cities”, “Monkeys Spinning Monkeys”, “Study and Relax”, “The Path of the Goblin King”, “Groove Grove”, “Moonlight Hall”, &“Frost Waltz”
Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com)
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License: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/
“Suspended Animation” & “Synapse” by Shane Ivers - https://www.silvermansound.com
In 1950, Cinderella saved Disney from destruction. In 2015, Cinderella went on a wild journey from swashbuckling adventure to a visually sumptuous but emotionally vacuous film that set the template for the Live Action Remakes that now threaten to swallow cinema whole.
If you want to support the show, we now have a Patreon! You can subscribe for bonus episodes, plug-free versions of the show and my eternal love and gratitude. Just don't do it through the iOS app.
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CLIPS USED:
Cinderella (dir. Kenneth Branagh, 2015)
Steven Soderbergh's State of Cinema Address at the San Francisco International Film Festival
The Creator (dir. Gareth Edwards, 2023)
Kenneth Branagh on Kermode and Mayo
Variety Artisans: Sandy Powell and the Costumes of Cinderella
Cinderella Costume Designer Sandy Powell (Press Conference)
Cinderella Interview - Sandy Powell
Sandy Powell Interview
MUSIC
"Backed Vibes Clean", "Divertissment", "Loopster", "Waltz - Tschikovsky Op. 40", "Chill Wave”, “Deadly Roulette”, “Dance of the Sugar Plum Fairy”, “Dirt Rhodes”, “Morgana Rides”, “Crypto”, “Arid Foothills”, “Bleeping Demo”, “On The Ground”, “Lost Frontier”, “Rollin At 5”, “Frost Waltz”, “The Snow Queen”, “Unanswered Questions”, “Frost Waltz (Alternate)”, “Gymnopedie No.1”, “Concentration”
Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com)
Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 4.0
License: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/
“Suspended Animation” by Shane Ivers - https://www.silvermansound.com
“Blue Danube”, “Romeo and Juliet” by PM Music
This is not the story of the Gladiator II that you will see in cinemas. This is the story of the time Russell Crowe went rogue and commissioned a script for a Gladiator sequel where Maximus returns from the dead to save the early Christian Church from annihilation and is cursed by the gods to live forever.
FOGHORN: Sound of Freedom is real bad y'all!
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CLIPS USED:
Gladiator (dir. Ridley Scott, 2000)
Gladiator: Deleted Scenes with Commentary from Ridley Scott (Dreamworks)
Gladiator: Behind the Scenes (Dreamworks)
WTF With Marc Maron: Nick Cave
Happy Sad Confused: Russell Crowe
Ridley Scott Talks “Gladiator 2” by Nick Cave
MUSIC
Nick Cave and Warren Ellis - The Proposition #3
Nick Cave & The Bad Seeds - Red Right Hand
Hans Zimmer & Lisa Gerrad - Barbarian Horde
Harry Gregson-Williams - Logan Through Time
“Leaving Home”, “Deadly Roulette”, “Morgana Rides”, “Crossing the Chasm”, “Devastation and Revenge”, “Crypto”, “Shadowlands 1- Horizon”, “Gloom Horizon” “Black Vortex”, “Intrepid”, “Cambodian Odyssey”, “Lost Time”, “Ever Mindful”, “Darkling”, “Rynos”, “Synapse”, “Divertisment”, “Peaceful Desolation” & “Unanswered Questions”
Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com)
Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 4.0
License: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/
“Suspended Animation” & “Synapse” by Shane Ivers - https://www.silvermansound.com
Francis Ford Coppola is undeniably one of the greatest filmmakers who has ever lived. Megalopolis is the film he has been chasing for nearly 40 years. But when the posters declare “From The Man Who Brought You The Godfather and Apocalypse Now”, they should probably add “And Live Cinema and Tetro.”
CONTENT WARNING: This episode discusses fictional depictions of sexual assault and sexual violence from 24: 35 to 27:15, and allegations of inappropriate on-set behaviour from 1:06:30 - 1:07:30
If you want to support the show, we now have a Patreon! You can subscribe for bonus episodes, plug-free versions of the show and also my upcoming unhinged rant about BBC America's The Watch.
You can follow the show on twitter or tumblr @goingroguepod, or for slightly less hinged content, follow @tansyclipboard on twitter or @tansyg.bsky.social on Bluesky.
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CLIPS USED:
Megalopolis (dir. Francis Ford Coppola, 2024)
Megalopolis Trailers (Lionsgate)
Francis Ford Coppola Predicting The Future At 1979 Oscars
Adam Driver Talks 65, Fighting Dinosaurs, and Filming Francis Ford Coppola's Megalopolis (Collider)
MUSIC
“As I Figure”, “Egmont Overture”, “Crypto”, “In The Hall Of The Mountain King”, “Dirt Rhodes”, “Vanishing”, “Dark Times”, “Morgana Rides” “Odyssey”, “That Zen Moment”, “Chill Wave”, “On The Cool Side”, “Screen Saver”, “Metaphysik”, “Groove Grove”, “Fairytale Waltz”, “Divertisment”, “Peaceful Desolation” & “Unanswered Questions”
Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com)
Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 4.0
License: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/
“Suspended Animation” & “Synapse” by Shane Ivers - https://www.silvermansound.com
PM Music: Ride of the Valkyries, Winter
Licensed under Creative Commons Attribution 3.0
Zack Snyder has a reputation as a Director’s Cut director: but what does that actually mean? And what happens when he’s given the chance to simultaneously make a Directors Cut and a ‘theatrical’ cut that will never go to theatres?
CONTENT WARNING: This episode discusses fictional depictions of sexual assault and sexual violence from 44:55 - 47:28
If you want to support the show, we now have a Patreon! You can subscribe for bonus episodes, plug-free versions of the show and also to give me the ability to see Megalopolis on the big big screen.
You can follow the show on twitter or tumblr @goingroguepod, or for slightly less hinged content, follow @tansyclipboard on twitter or @tansyg.bsky.social on Bluesky.
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CLIPS USED:
Rebel Moon Part One - A Child of Fire (dir. Zack Snyder, 2023)
Rebel Moon Part Two - The Scargiver (dir. Zack Snyder, 2024)
Rebel Moon Chapter One - Chalice of Blood (dir. Zack Snyder, 2024)
Rebel Moon Chapter Two - Curse of Forgiveness (dir. Zack Snyder, 2024)
Rebel Moon: Part One - A Child of Fire with Zack Snyder and Louis Leterrier (The Director’s Cut Podcast Ep. 464)
Zack Snyder 😜 Life is Short with Justin Long
The Joe Rogan Experience 2114 - Zack Snyder
Happy Sad Confused: Zack Snyder Vol II
How the Guys of Rebel Moon Got Ripped
MUSIC:
“Cantina Band” - John Williams
“Niamos (Morlana Club Mix)” - Nicholas Britell
“Whitsun Oath” - Tom Holkenborg
“The Land We Breathe” - Tom Holkenborg
“Harvesting” - Fumio Hayasaka
“Industrial Cinematic”, “Odyssey”, “Hyperfun”, “Protofunk”, “Hitman”, “Hiding Your Reality”, “The Descent”, “The Path of the Goblin King V2”, “Thinking Music”, “Hit the Streets”, “Death of Kings”, “Neo Western”, “Devastation and Revenge”, “Dark Times”, “Groove Grove”, “Screensaver”, “StyleFunk”, “Covert Affairs”, “Minima”, “Ever Mindful”, “Enter the Maze”, “Echoes of Time V2”, “Sunset at Glenorm”, “Bicycle”, “Immersed” & “On the Shore”
Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com)
Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 4.0
License: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/
“Suspended Animation” & “VHS Dreams” by Shane Ivers - https://www.silvermansound.com
Zack Snyder first pitched the idea Seven Samurai in Space when he was in college. In 2012, he pitched it to Kathleen Kennedy as his way of “fixing” Star Wars. In 2023, Rebel Moon: Part One - A Child of Fire was released on Netflix.
This is the story of how one idea becomes ten hours worth of movie.
CONTENT WARNING: This episode discusses suicide at 16:10. There is also discussion of fictional depictions of sexual assault and sexual violence at 6:55 - 7:04, 15:08 - 15:27, 28:58 - 29:06, 32:05 - 33:45, 37:25 - 38:23
If you want to support the show, we now have a Patreon!
You can subscribe for bonus episodes, plug-free versions of the show and my undying love and gratitude. Please do it! I need to buy so many Rebel Moon art books.
You can follow the show on twitter or tumblr @goingroguepod, or for slightly less hinged content, follow @tansyclipboard on twitter or @tansyg.bsky.social on Bluesky.
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CLIPS USED:
Rebel Moon Part One - A Child of Fire (dir. Zack Snyder, 2023)
Rebel Moon: Part One - A Child of Fire with Zack Snyder and Louis Leterrier (The Director’s Cut Podcast Ep. 464)
Zack Snyder 😜 Life is Short with Justin Long
The Joe Rogan Experience 2114 - Zack Snyder
Zack Snyder on How Rebel Moon Is a Rebellion 30 Years in the Making (Tudum)
MUSIC:
“Crypto”, “Industrial Cinematic”, “Virtutes Instrumenti”, “Oppressive Gloom”, “Protofunk”, “Morgana Rides”, “Rollin at 5”, “Screen Saver”, “Funkorama”, “Olde Timey”, “As I Figure”, “Tenebrous Brothers Carnival - Intermission”, “Spy Glass”, “Loopster”, “Constancy Part 3”, “Lithium”, “Enter The Maze”, “Chill Wave”, “Simplex”, “Floating Cities”, “Leaving Home”, “The Chamber”, “Heart of Nowhere”, “Ever Mindful”, “Lost Time”, “Deep Haze” & “Magic Forest”
Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com)
Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 4.0
License: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/
“Suspended Animation” & "Space Race”, by Shane Ivers - https://www.silvermansound.com
At World’s End was once the most expensive movie ever made. But at what cost?
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CLIPS USED:
Pirates of the Caribbean: At World's End (Walt Disney Studios)
Pirates of the Caribbean: At World's End Deleted Scenes
Enter the Maelstrom
Anatomy of a Maelstom
Rango, with Director Gore Verbinski (DP 30)
GORE VERBINSKI Backstage at Field Trip to the Movies (Santa Barbara Middle School Teen Press)
Empire Podcast 54: Danny Boyle, Jonathon Pryce
Hans Zimmer: Making of Pirates of the Caribbean Scores
Gore Verbinski on Steven Spielberg, Donald Trump and A Cure For Wellness (Joe.ie)
MUSIC:
Pirates of the Caribbean: At World's End Score Excerpts:
- The Green Flash
- One Day
- Trying to Get Lost
- Souls At Sea
- At Davy Jones’ Command
- Finale (William Tell Overture)
- Parlay
- Escape / Norrington Dies
- Hoist the Colours Declaration
- The Wedding
- Who’s Captain/Below Deck
"Leaving Home", "Divertissement", "Industrial Cinematic", "Halls of the Undead", "Scissors", "Echoes of Time v2", "Showdown", "Morgana Rides", "Simplex", "Monkeys Spinning Monkeys", "Magic Forest", "Oppressive Gloom", "Metaphysik", "Thinking Music", "Screen Saver", "Vanishing", "Unanswered Questions", "I Can Feel It Coming", The Snow Queen", The Chamber", "Deep Haze", "Danse Macabre", "Killers", "Bleeping Demo", "Bicycle", "Hiding Your Reality", "Enter The Maze", "Despair and Triumph", "Decline", "Floating Cities" & “Black Vortex”,
Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com)
Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 4.0
License: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/
“The Buccaneer’s Haul” and “Space Race” by Shane Ivers -
Almost everything that could go wrong went wrong on Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Man's Chest. I still really like it.
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CLIPS USED:
Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Man's Chest (Walt Disney Studios)
Writers Audio Commentaries for Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Man's Chest
According to Plan: The Harrowing And True Story of Dead Man's Chest
Charting The Return
Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Man's Chest Deleted Scenes
A Reeltime Conversation with Film Editor Craig Wood
Team Deakins Episode 88 - John Knoll
Pirates of the Caribbean: At World’s End Masters of Design: Crash McCreary - The Cursed Crew
Bill Nighy Breaks Down His Career, from 'Harry Potter' to 'Pirates of the Caribbean’ (Vanity Fair)
Gore Verbinski Interview (Reba Merill)
MUSIC:
Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Man's Chest Score Excerpts:
- Jack Sparrow
- Davy Jones
- The Wedding / Beckett's Arrival
- Abandon Ship
- Row to Tia Dalma's
- Davy Jones Plays His Organ
- Jack Sparrow's Theme (Demo)
“Black Vortex”, “Bleeping Demo”, “Hiding Your Reality”, “Crypto”, “Oppressive Gloom”, “The Chamber”, “Kumasi Grove”, “Bossa Antigua”, “Thinking Music”, “Floating Cities”, “Firesong” “Morgana Rides”, “Lost Frontier”, “Tenebrous Brothers Carnival - Intermission”, “Nonstop”, “Monkeys Spinning Monkeys”, “Danse Macabre”, “ZigZag”, “Stormfront”, “I Can Feel It Coming”, “Leaving Home”, “Screen Saver”, “Showdown”, “Magic Forest” & “Deep Haze”
Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com)
Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 4.0
License: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/
“The Buccaneer’s Haul” and “Synapse” by Shane Ivers - https://www.silvermansound.com
Pirates of the Caribbean: The Curse of the Black Pearl has gotta be the only good film to come out of IP mining.
I cannot recommend Dan Golding’s video essay A Theory of Film Music enough, and also highly recommend his book Star Wars After Lucas (he also has a great talk on Nostalgia Piano, but I think that one might have just been a conference exclusive)
You can follow the show on Twitter (@goingrogue_pod), Instagram (@goingrogue_podcast), or Tumblr or Bluesky (@goingroguepod) or for slightly less hinged content, follow @tansyclipboard on twitter or @tansyg.bsky.social on Bluesky.
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CLIPS USED:
Pirates of the Caribbean: The Curse of the Black Pearl (Walt Disney Studios)
Audio Commentaries for Pirates of the Caribbean: The Curse of the Black Pearl
- Writers Commentary
- Gore Verbinski and Johnny Depp
Pirates of the Caribbean: The Curse of the Black Pearl — The Making Of An Epic At Sea
Dan Golding: A Theory of Film Music
All Access: Klaus Badelt (Film.Music.Media)
Hans Zimmer: Making of Pirates of Caribbean Soundtracks
Becoming Captain Jack
Composer Ramin Djawadi on working with Hans Zimmer and Klaus Badelt (TelevisionAcademy.com Interviews)
Interviewing Stuart Beattie, screenwriter of Pirates of the Caribbean & Collateral (Syd Field - The Visual Art of Storytelling)
Screenwriter Jay Wolpert on creating tension in action scripts & game shows (WGA West)
MUSIC:
Pirates of the Caribbean: The Curse of the Black Pearl Score Excerpts:
Hans Zimmer Score Excerpts:
“Waltz: Tchaikovsky Op. 40”, “Adventures in Adventureland”, “Captain Scurvy”, “Division”, “In The Hall Of The Mountain King”, “Crossing the Chasm”, “Cut Trance”, “Eternal Terminal”, “Expeditionary”, “In The Path of The Goblin King”, In The Path of The Goblin King v2” “Dirt Rhodes”, “Loopster”, “Peaceful Desolation”, “Crypto”, “Rising”, “Vibing Over Venus”, “Industrial Cinematic”, “Kusami Groove Flugelhorn”, “Celtic Impulse”, “Unanswered Questions”, “Danse Macbre”, “Gloom Horizon”, “Screen Saver”, “Thinking Music”, “Enter The Maze”, “Morgana Rides”, “Odyssey”, “Lost Frontier”, “Ever Mindful” & “Deep Haze”
Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com)
Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 4.0
License: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/
“The Buccaneer’s Haul” by Shane Ivers - https://www.silvermansound.com
Nottingham was a high concept spec script that reimagined the Robin Hood legend from the perspective of the Sheriff of Nottingham that asked whether we should follow the law, or our heroes. Robin Hood is a movie where Robin Hood does not rob from the rich or give to the poor, but his dad did write the Magna Carta.
This is the story of how Nottingham became Robin Hood.
You can follow the show on twitter or tumblr @goingroguepod, or for slightly less hinged content, follow @tansyclipboard on twitter or @tansyg.bsky.social on Bluesky.
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CLIPS USED:
Rise and Rise Again: Making Ridley Scott’s Robin Hood
PODDYWOOD: Cyrus Voris & Ethan Reiff (Part 3)
RUSSELL CROWE Interview for Robin Hood (BlackTree TV)
Russell Crowe Talks Robin Hood (IGN)
Russell Crowe Reunited With His ‘Gladiator’ Horse (The Late Show)
Napoleon (dir. Ridley Scott, 2023)
Robin Hood (dir. Ridley Scott, 2010)
The Castle (dir. Rob Sitch, 1997)
Democracy Manifest
MUSIC:
“Loopster”, “The Descent”, “Thinking Music”, “Five Armies”, “Oppressive Gloom”, “Virtutes Instrumenti”, “Minstrel Guild”, “Stormfront”, “Eternal Terminal”, “Night Vigil”, “Unanswered Questions”, “Volatile Reaction”, “Tenebrous Brothers Carnival - Intermission”, “Peaceful Desolation”, “Midnight Tale”, “Odyssey”, “Protofunk”, “Raw”, “Morgana Rides”, “The Path of the Goblin King”, “Floating Cities”, “Hiding Your Reality”, “Black Vortex”, “Minima”, “Decline”, “Clean Soul”, “Anguish” & “Magic Forest”
Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com)
Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 4.0
License: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/
“Suspended Animation”, "Space Race", "Bossy Boots", "Synapse" & "Through the Woods" by Shane Ivers - https://www.silvermansound.com
This is not the first podcast about Don’t Worry Darling.
But this is one of the few that discusses the film, and its transformation from a Black Mirror-esque spec script written by Dick Van Dyke’s grandsons into a beautiful but poorly paced film with a confusing message. And somehow, between those two, there was a solid, compelling script. But it was paired with a directorial intention that was fundamentally opposed to the story, and the film began to unravel from there.
CONTENT WARNING: this episode involves discussion of sexual assault, sexual violence, suicide and misogyny.
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CLIPS:
Don’t Worry Darling (New Line Cinema, 2022)
The Directors Cut Podcast: Don’t Worry Darling with Olivia Wilde and Reed Morano
The Late Show with Stephen Colbert
Script to Screen: Booksmart with Katie Silberman (screenwriter)
Olivia Wilde & Katie Silberman: Don’t Worry Darling Q&A With Pete Hammond
MUSIC:
"Slow Burn", "Crinoline Dreams", "The Dread", "In Your Arms", "Thinking Music", "Echoes of Time V2", "Volatile Reaction", "Metaphysik", "Bossa Antigua", "Bleeping Demo", "Screen Saver", "Crypto", "Night In Venice", "Samba Isobel", "Unseen Horrors", "Lobby Time", "Shadowlands 1: Horizon", "Penumbra", "Leaving Home", "Floating Cities", "Expeditionary", "On The Cool Side", "Walking Along", "Clean Soul", "Vibing Over Venus", "This House", "Sunset Over Glengorm", "Black Vortex", & "Scissors"
Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com)
Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 4.0
License: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/
"Suspended Animation" by Shane Ivers - https://www.silvermansound.com
In October 2008, Chris Sanders was asked to take over a troublesome film with a March 2010 release date. He immediately called his old co-director Dean Deblois. Somehow, despite everything we've ever discussed on this podcast, the film they made is good.
How To Train Your Dragon is the opposite of almost every film we've covered before - an instant classic that pushed the animation form and made bold calls on a tight deadline, and actually stuck the landing. But to understand how it pulled that off, we need to cover early Dreamworks, renaissance Disney, and a little picture book called The Big Bear Aircraft Company.
You can follow the show on twitter or tumblr @goingroguepod, or for slightly less hinged content, follow @tansyclipboard on twitter or @tansyg.bsky.social on Bluesky.
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CLIPS:
The Story Room: The Making of Lilo and Stitch
The Making of How To Train Your Dragon: Going Into The Story
Chris Sanders - Director of How to Train Your Dragon + Lilo & Stitch Cartoons!!! (Directing Animation Podcast #39)
Animation Part 3 with Dean Deblois (Team Deakins Podcast Episode 12)
All Star - Smashmouth
Forbidden Friendship - John Powell (How To Train Your Dragon)
Coming Back Around - John Powell (How To Train Your Dragon)
Fairytale - Harry Gregson-Williams and John Powell (Shrek)
Short Hair - Jerry Goldsmith (Mulan)
Your Father Would Be Proud - Michael Giacchino (Rogue One)
A Place in The Sky - Hans Zimmer (The Creator)
MUSIC:
"Bicycle", "Adventures in Adventureland", "Hard Boiled", "Waltz - Tschikovsky Op. 40", "Chill Wave", "Loopster", "Cherry Blossom", "Whimsey Groove", "Odyssey", "Quirky Dog", "Screen Saver", "Crypto", "Nonstop", "Ascending The Vale", "Enter The Maze", "Tenebrous Bros Carnival - Intermission", "Energizing", "Divertissement", "Leaving Home", "Hall of the Mountain King", "Oppressive Gloom", "Magic Scout - Farmhouse", "Monkeys Spinning Monkeys", "Prelude & Action", "Concentration", "Ever Mindful" & "Tempting Secrets"
Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com)
Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 4.0
License: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/
"Suspended Animation" by Shane Ivers - https://www.silvermansound.com
Seven years after Rogue One, Gareth Edwards is back with his new film The Creator, an original science fiction blockbuster about robots, AI and true love. The film has been surrounded by breathless reporting of its $86 million budget, the $4000 camera it was shot on and the future of blockbuster filmmaking - but, like most film reporting, the truth is far more complicated than the headlines. And it's oddly fitting for a film about AI to have its human artists so quickly erased.
You can follow the show on twitter or tumblr @goingroguepod, or for slightly less hinged content, follow @tansyclipboard on twitter or @tansyg.bsky.social on Bluesky.
If you want to get in touch, you can email [email protected]
CLIPS:
'Rogue One' Director Gareth Edwards Talks Making 'The Creator' On His Own Terms (Cinemablend)
Gareth Edwards Discusses Shooting The Creator on Sony FX3 (San Diego Comic-Con 2023)
The Creator: Gareth's Vision (20th Century Studios)
Glass Onion
Monsters
A Place in The Sky - Hans Zimmer (The Creator)
Cornfield Chase - Hans Zimmer (Interstellar)
MUSIC:
"Ever Mindful", "Lost Froniter", "Hiding Your Reality", "Bleeping Demo", "Screensaver", "Loopster", "On The Cool Side", "Decisions", "Bicycle", "Beauty Flow", "Crypto" & "New Direction"
Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com)
Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 4.0 License
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"Suspended Animation" by Shane Ivers - https://www.silvermansound.com
Dr Horrible’s Sing-along Blog was born from the 2007 Writers Strike as a bold new way to take power back from the studios. Or at least, that’s one version of the story. Another involves a long-gestating podcast project. Yet another involves Jeff Bezos.
A 42 Minute webseries that apparently earned Joss Whedon more money than The Avengers, Dr Horrible was released almost six months after the Writers Strike but is indelibly tied to it. But was it the first of many, or lightning in a bottle?
CONTENT WARNING: Joss Whedon has been accused of abuse, harassment, racism, bullying and gaslighting, by a number of former co-workers and his ex-wife. He denies all suggestions of misconduct.
CLIPS:
Dr Horrible’s Sing-along Blog
The Making of Dr Horrible's Sing-along Blog
Commentary! The Musical
Dr Horrible’s Sing-along Blog Panel - Paleyfest 2009
Dr Horrible’s Sing-along Blog Reunion Panel - SDCC 2018
Kath and Kim (2008) (the bad one)
TV writer David Simon weighs in on the Writers Guild of America strike - NPR’s All Things Considered (19 May 2023)
MUSIC:
“C-Funk”, “Enter The Party”, “Deep Haze”, “Industrious Ferret”, “Fuzzball Parade”, “Odyssey”, “Monkeys Spinning Monkeys”, “Crypto”, “Tech Live”, “Crossing the Divide”, “Study and Relax”, “Thinking Music”, “Cut Trance”, “Walking Along”, “Leaving Home”, “Loopster”, “Floating Cities”, “Bleeping Demo”, “Groove Grove”, “On The Cool Side”
Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com)
Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 4.0 License
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“Bossy Boots” by Shane Ivers - https://www.silvermansound.com
The South Park episode Canada on Strike first aired in April 2008 - a “biting” “satire” released well after the Writers Strike had left the news cycle, and one of many media pieces that helped cement the legend that the entire strike had been about The Internet. But one of the many issues that the WGA had brought to the table was the very reason that the South Park team were so annoyed with the Guild in the first place - while the Guild were on strike, South Park and most of the animation industry were still working. Because animation writers are not covered by the Writers Guild.
The WGA wanted jurisdiction over animation in their next contract. But that was an even harder ask than Reality TV, since animation writing was already covered by The Animation Guild, or IATSE Local 839.
CLIPS:
Six Days to Air (Comedy Central)
Canada On Strike (South Park Season 12 Episode 4)
Chris Sanders - Director of How to Train Your Dragon + Lilo & Stitch Cartoons!!! (Directing Animation Podcast #39)
WSC Show #109 - Interview With Patric Verrone (Part 1)
Tina Fey Monologue (Saturday Night Live, 24th February 2008)
WGA Calls for Vote To End Writers Strike (Writers Guild of America)
WGA Calls for Vote To End Writers Strike - Q&A (Writers Guild of America)
Why I’m Striking - Patric Verrone (Deadline)
MUSIC:
“Fork & Spoon”, “C-Funk”, “Divertissement”, “Deadly Roulette”, “Modern, Jazz Samba”, “Fuzzball Parade”, “Bicycle”, “Expeditionary”, “Finding Movement”, “On The Cool Side”, “Groove Grove”, “Floating Cities”, “Industrial Cinematic”, “Hard Boiled”, “Leaving Home”, “Lost Frontier”, “On The Ground”, “Odyssey”, “Bossa Antigua”, “Crossing The Divide”
Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com)
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“Bossy Boots” & “Synapse” by Shane Ivers - https://www.silvermansound.com
In 2006, more than a year before the Writers Strike, twelve producers of America’s Next Top Model walked off their job to demand a new contract: as Writers protected by the Writers Guild of America. The production company refused to bargain with the WGA, worried it would set a dangerous precedent by giving Reality TV producers higher wages, residuals and writer credits. The WGA, on the other hand, were determined to set that precedent.
The Top Model Strike was a disaster.
Reality TV was one of the most complicated issues during the 07/08 Writers Strike - because while the WGA demanded blanket coverage of Reality TV Writers, the TV Networks denied reality TV even had writers and filled their schedules with non-union reality TV shows to ride out the strike. And while the WGA had failed to unionise Reality TV workers, the Director’s Guild of America had already been moderately successful, and weren’t asking for it in their next contract - making them a much easier group for the studios to negotiate with.
CLIPS:
WSC #31 - The It’s All Written Reality Show Rally (The Writers Strike Chronicles, 7 December 2007)
America’s Next Top Strike: Reality Show Writers (NPR’s All Things Considered, 15 August 2006)
Pencils Down! The 100 Days of the Writers Guild Strike
My Dad Is Better Than Your Dad Promo
Where We Are And Where We’re Going (The Writers Guild of America, 2 June 2023)
MUSIC:
“Hiding Your Reality”, “Chill Wave”, “Wepa”, “Tech Live”, “Maccary Bay”, “Ancient Mystery Waltz Presto”, “Concentration”, “Bleeping Demo”, “Bicycle”, “Enter the Party”, “Nonstop”, “Leaving Home”, “On The Cool Side”, “Ever Mindful”, “Rollin At 5”, “Lost Frontier”, “Avant Jazz”, “Crypto”, “Tenerous Bros Carnival - Intermission” & “Groove Grove”
Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com)
Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 4.0 License
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“Bossy Boots”, “VHS Dream” & “Synapse” by Shane Ivers - https://www.silvermansound.com
"Bad Boys" by Inner Circle
In 2005, Tim Kring took a 5 hour walk with his old friend Jeph Loeb, and pitched him the pilot episode of his new show - Heroes.
Inspired by a structural writing challenge, a desire to see good in ordinary people and Paul Thomas Anderson’s Magnolia, Heroes was one of the biggest new shows of 2006. By the end of 2007, it had all come crashing down. The Writer’s Strike is often held responsible for Heroes’s demise, but as usual, there’s a lot more to the story.
Content Warning:
Les Moonves is alleged to have sexually assaulted more than a dozen women since the 1980s. Both CBS executives and LAPD police officers were involved in an attempt to cover-up at least one allegation.
CLIPS USED:
Heroes - Tim Kring on Heroes’ Storytelling (Paley Centre 2007)
Jesse’s Office Ep #20 - Crafting Heroes with Tim Kring
Conan O’Brien on Writing “Marge vs the Monorail”
‘The Alternate Ending’ Heroes S2 Interview
Inside the Writers Strike With a WGA Negotiator (The Town)
WSC Show #31 - It’s All Written Reality Show Rally
MUSIC
“Raw”, “Crypto”, “Bicycle”, “Screen Saver”, “Groove Grove”, “Marty Gots A Plan”, “Simplex”, “Myst on the Moor”, “Lost Frontier”, “Deep Haze”, “Bleeping Demo”, “Loopster”, “Avant Jazz”, “Enter the Maze”, “Hiding Your Reality”, “Bossa Antigua”, “Oppressive Gloom”, “Spy Glass”, “Intrepid”, “Industrial Cinematic”, “On The Cool Side”, “Floating Cities”, “Tenebrous Brothers Carnival - Intermission”, “Hard Boiled”, "I Knew A Guy," “On The Ground”
Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com)
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“Bossy Boots" by Shane Ivers - https://www.silvermansound.com
In 2005, an American adaption of a UK cringe-com written by a former Simpsons writer became an unexpected hit on iTunes. So despite middling ratings, the show was given a second season and a second chance.
It went on to become the defining sitcom of a generation, and one of the most streamed series of all time.
Through every early development of online content, The Office was right there, riding the wave of technology and culture trends. And when the Writers Guild of America went on strike in 2007, one of the guild’s biggest battlegrounds was The Internet - and The Office writers were there on the picket lines, fighting for the future they had forged.
CLIPS USED:
The Office is Closed (WGA America)
Greg Daniels - Pt. 1 (The Office Deep Dive)
WGAW President Patric Verrone says writers want fair play (WGA West)
Writers Guild of America Strike Announcement - Nov. 2, 2007. (WGA West)
What We’ve Won in Part Negotiations (WGA West)
THE OFFICE (US)
Pilot (S01 E01)
Boys and Girls (S02 E15)
The Negotiation (S03 E19)
Dinner Party (S04 E13)
THE OFFICE (UK)
Downsize (S01 E01)
MUSIC:
“Feelin Good”, “Bicycle”, “Chill Wave”, “Dirt Rhodes”, “Odyssey”, “Too Cool”, “Magic Scout - Farm”, “Hard Boiled”, “Loopster”, “I Knew A Guy”, “Bossa Antigua”, “Twisting”, “Bleeping Demo”, “Protofunk”, “Mining By Moonlight”, “Spy Glass”, “Screen Saver”, “Rollin At 5”, “Thinking Music”, “Wisps of Whorls” & “Crypto”
Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com)
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“Bossy Boots" & "VHS Dreams" by Shane Ivers - https://www.silvermansound.com
Anti- Piracy Music - Melchior Rietveldt (which was never officially licensed for those anti-piracy ads)
Six months of pre-production. Six months of principal photography.
Six weeks in the edit.
Quantum of Solace has long been seen as a victim of the Writers Strike. But the strike was just one of many, many roadblocks that the film blissfully drove straight through.
Striking Out is a new series of Going Rogue about the 07/08 Writers Guild of America strike, exploring the issues of the strike by looking at the films and TV shows affected by it.
CONTENT WARNING: In 2023 Paul Haggis lost a civil court case and was ordered to pay $7.5million to a woman who accused him of assault. Four other woman testified during the court case. Haggis denies the accusations.
CLIPS USED:
Quantum of Solace (2008)
Casino Royale (2006)
Marc Forster, “Quantum of Solace”: Meet the Filmmaker
Roberto Schafer - Cinematographer (Team Deakins Podcast)
Quantum of Solace: Behind the Scenes (SPE)
Naomi Donne Blog (SPE)
Quantum of Solace: THR Behind the Scenes
Empire Podcast #484 - Daniel Craig, Rami Malek
MUSIC:
“Floating Cities”, “Leaving Home”, “Enter The Maze”, “Hard Boiled”, “I knew A Guy”, “Marty Gots A Plan”, “Crypto”, “Hiding Your Reality”, “Prelude and Action”, “Morgana Rides”, “Bleeping Demo”, “Hitman”, “Groove Grove”, “Industrial Cinematic”, “Scissors”, “Ambiment” * “Lost Frontier”
Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com)
Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 4.0 License
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“Bossy Boots" by Shane Ivers - https://www.silvermansound.com
In 2005, Daniel Craig was announced as the new James Bond. On the same day, producer Michael G Wilson mentioned that work had already started on Craig's second Bond film.
That film would eventually become Quantum of Solace. And it would be remembered less as a film and more as a casualty of the 2007 Writers Strike. But how much did the strike really affect Quantum of Solace?
Striking Out is a new series of Going Rogue about the 07/08 Writers Guild of America strike, exploring the issues of the strike by looking at the films and TV shows affected by it.
CONTENT WARNING:
In 2023 Paul Haggis lost a civil court case and was ordered to pay $7.5million to a woman who accused him of assault. Four other woman testified during the court case. Haggis denies the accusations.
CLIPS USED:
Casino Royale (2006)
Quantum of Solace (2008)
Marc Forster, “Quantum of Solace”: Meet the Filmmaker
Roberto Schafer - Cinematographer (Team Deakins Podcast)
WSC Show #109 - Interview With Patric Verrone (Part 1)
New James Bond
Rewriting Collective Insights: Phil Lord at TEDxCoconut Grove
Quantum of Solace: THR Behind the Scenes
MUSIC
“Industrial Cinematic”, “Hiding Your Reality”, “Chill Wave”, “Dirt Rhodes”, “FIX HERE”, “Unanswered Questions”, “Rollin At 5”, “Thinking Music”, “Enter the Maze”, “Crypto”, “Clash Defiant”, “Groove Grove”, “Enter The Maze”, “Prelude And Action”, “Hitman”, “Bicycle”, “Screen Saver”, “Nonstop”, “Floating Cities”, “Leaving Home”, “Satiate Percussion”, “Magic Forest”, “Tenebrous Brothers Carnival - Intermission” & “Bleeping Demo”
Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com)
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“Bossy Boots" by Shane Ivers - https://www.silvermansound.com
In 2007, The Writers Guild of America went on strike. In 2023, they might do it again.
So this is season three of Going Rogue: Striking Out.
Striking Out starts on May 7th, with weekly episodes.
This is basically the same promo as the one at the end of Going Solo but now it has a date attached.
For smart threads and dumb memes, follow the show on twitter @GoingRogue_Pod
For a daily update on the various ways Tansy is losing her mind thanks to pop culture and capitalism, follow @TansyClipboard
MUSIC:
"Bleeping Demo" Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com)
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Bossy Boots by Shane Ivers - https://www.silvermansound.com
Crank That Soulja Boy - Soulja Boy
On a dark summer night on the set of American Graffiti, Ron Howard asked George Lucas what film he wanted to do next. Lucas was shy with details, but he said it was sort of a Buck Rogers film with Stanley Kubrick special effects, but really, really fast.
Both Howard and Lucas would go onto wildly successful directorial careers, but while George Lucas was stuck in a galaxy far far away, Howard became a journeyman, directing all styles, genres and budgets. When Solo: A Star Wars Story needed a steady pair of hands to take over and get the now director-less film onto screens in just 11 months, Howard was one of the few directors with the experience, technical skill and clout to pull it off.
Howard’s version of Solo was always going to be a compromise. But by picture lock, very little of anyone’s vision remained. Join us for the breakneck conclusion of Going Solo.
You can follow the show on Twitter @goingrogue_pod or, if you want a lot of tweets about Puss In Boots: The Last Wish, you can follow Tansy @tansyclipboard
CLIPS:
Ron Howard Gets A New ‘Solo’ Trailer for May the 4th - The Late Show With Stephen Colbert
Sunday Sit-down with Willie Geist - Ron Howard
Arrested Development
How Did Ron Howard Direct Solo: A Star Wars Story after joining the project so late? (via Entertainment.ie)
The Star Wars Show: Solo Writers Lawrence and Jonathon Kasdan on Scripting Chewbacca’s Lines and More
Peter Serafinowicz on Collider Live
Solo: A Star Wars Story
Solo: A Star Wars Story Deleted Scenes
Happy Sad Confused: Ron Howard Vol. II
MUSIC:
“Whiskey On The Mississippi”, “Adventures in Adventureland”, “Hot Pursuit”, “Smoking Gun”, “Bicycle”, “Industrial Cinematic”, “Anamalie”, “Lost Time”, “Nonstop”, “I Can Feel It Coming”, “Simplex”, “Neo Western”, “Enter The Maze”, “Floating Cities”, “Rising”, “River of Io”, “Space Jazz”, “Groove Grove”, “Crypto”, “Ever Mindful”, “Hiding Your Reality”, “Man Down”, “Night Vigil”, “Cut Trance”, “Chill Wave”, “Bleeping Demo”
Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com)
Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 4.0 License
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"Quiescent In Time" by Shane Ivers - https://www.silvermansound.com
"Jake Lonergan" by Harry Gregson-Williams (Cowboys and Aliens)
“Willow’s Theme” by James Horner (Willow)
Cat noises provided by Sabrina
Cameras rolled on Solo: A Star Wars Story in early 2017. For six-ish months, Phil Lord and Chris Miller directed their version of the film - a highly stylised, ambitious take on Han Solo’s backstory. But in putting their version to film, Lord and Miller used the filmmaking process they’d honed over decades of work together - improvising, trying things out and throwing things away in pursuit of the best story.
But that process might not have been the best one for Solo. At home in LA, Lawrence Kasdan was watching the dailies. And he wasn’t happy with what he saw.
Kathleen Kennedy, producer of Solo and President of Lucasfilm, had the deciding vote in what happened next.
Strap in, this is a long one mates.
CLIPS:
Rewriting Collective Insights: Phil Lord at TedXCoconut Grove
Team Deakins Podcast Episode 78: Phil Lord and Christopher Miller
Solo: A Star Wars Story
Solo: A Star Wars Story Bonus Feature: Bradford Young
Solo: A Star Wars Story Deleted Scenes
Happy Sad Confused: Lord & Miller II
MUSIC:
“Unanswered Questions”, “Hot Pursuit”, “Bicycle”, “Neo Western”, Rollin At 5”, “Simplex”, “Space Jazz”, “Floating Cities”, “Screen Saver”, “Groove Grove”, “Bleeping Demo”, “Stay The Course”, “Oppressive Gloom”, “Mystery Sax”, “Man Down”, “Scissors”, “Martian Cowboy”, “I Can Feel It Coming”, “Crypto”, “Lost Frontier”
Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com)
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"Quiescent In Time" by Shane Ivers - https://www.silvermansound.com
"The Good Guy" by John Powell (I'm trying to make a thing where every time a director gets fired or replaced I do a bit of sad music from the film)
In 1997, Christopher Miller lucked his way into a meeting with Disney’s TV Animation Department - and he turned them down, because he had to study for midterms. But when he finally did go to LA and meet with Disney, he brought along his best friend, Phil Lord.
Twenty years later, Lord and Miller were chosen to direct Solo: A Star Wars Story, after a meteoric rise from writers of oft-cancelled sitcoms to one of the most well regarded directing teams in Hollywood. They would not finish the film, but the marks they left on it would be deep, and unexpected, and many of them would involve Robert Altman’s McCabe and Mrs Miller.
CLIPS:
Team Deakins Podcast Episode 78: Phil Lord and Christopher Miller
Bronte Sisters Power Dolls
Rewriting Collective Insights: Phil Lord at TedXCoconut Grove
22 Jump Street (Song Pictures)
21 Jump Street Deleted Scenes
The Directors Cut Episode 52: Rogue One A Star Wars Story with Gareth Edwards and Chris Miller
Team Deakins Podcast Episode 90: Bradford Young
MUSIC:
“Cool Rock", “Dirt Rhodes", "Hot Pursuit", “Sneaky Adventure", “New Direction", “Screen Saver”, "Klockworx", “Too Cool", “Cut Trance", “Bleeping Demo", “Crowd Hammer", “Invariance", “Industrial Cinematic”, “Floating Cities", "Anamalie", “Martian Cowboy", “Slow Burn” & “Alien Restaurant"
Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com)
Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 4.0 License
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“Suspended Animation" & "Quiescent In Time" by Shane Ivers - https://www.silvermansound.com
In October 2012, Lawrence Kasdan was asked if he wanted to write another Star Wars film.
He didn't. But when he went to turn down George Lucas and Kathleen Kennedy in person, someone mentioned they also wanted to make a Han Solo movie.
Five and a half years later, Solo: A Star Wars Story became the first ever Star Wars box office bomb. You think you know what happened, but exactly how Solo went off the rails is a much more complicated, nuanced and unhinged tale than you might have imagined. This isn't the story of a film going wrong - it's the story of one that could never have gone right.
And it starts, and in some ways ends, with Lawrence and Jonathon Kasdan's script.
CLIPS:
On Story 1011: A Conversation With Lawrence Kasdan
Star Wars Episode IV: A New Hope
Solo: A Star Wars Story
Original Star Wars Audition Tapes
Solo: A Star Wars Story Sound Bites (Lucasfilm Press Pack)
The Star Wars Show: Solo Writers Lawrence and Jonathon Kasdan on Scripting Chewbacca’s Lines, Plus A New TV Spot
Springsteen on Broadway (Netflix)
MUSIC:
"Western Streets", "Bicycle", "Hot Pursuit", "Bleeping Demo", "Neo Western", "Sax Rock And Roll, "Rollin At 5", "Odyssey", "Slow Burn", "Deep Haze", "Screen Saver", "Intrepid", "Floating Cities", "Black Vortex", "Crowd Hammer", "Hiding Your Reality", "Mystery Sax",
Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com)
Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 4.0 License
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"Synapse" & "Quiescent In Time" by Shane Ivers - https://www.silvermansound.com
In December 2016, Rogue One: A Star Wars Story was released into the world. With six weeks of reshoots, a painfully short edit, an unexpected election and a new composer after the first one dropped out due to "scheduling issues", the film was finally finished - the day before its premiere. But was it successful? And more importantly, was it political?
In this final episode of Going Rogue, we look at Rogue One's release, and legacy, and the new life it's about to take in Andor.
Rogue One has now fascinated and captivated me for longer than every person who worked on it (expect John Knoll) - but why? What is it the film that haunts my every waking hour? I saw it in IMAX yesterday and I finally clocked Tony Gilroy's cameo. Did you know Tony Gilroy has a cameo in Rogue One? It's just his voice but he's the Rebel traffic controller who asks for their callsign and when Bodhi's like "... Rogue One?" it's Gilroy who says "Rogue One? There is no Rogue One?!" and honestly what a choice to make for the cameo. Gareth Edwards launches the Tantive V and saves the rebellion. Gilroy says "There is no Rogue One".
What a choice.
You can follow the show on twitter or tumblr @goingroguepod, or for slightly less hinged content, follow @tansyclipboard on twitter or @tansyg.bsky.social on Bluesky.
If you want to get in touch, you can email [email protected]
CLIPS:
- Rogue One: A Star Wars Story
- Moving On (Michael Giacchino, Lost)
- Your Father Would Be Proud (Michael Giacchino, Rogue One: A Star Wars Story)
- Star Wars Main Theme (John Williams, Star Wars Episode IV: A New Hope)
- Rey's Theme (John Williams, Star Wars Episode VI: The Force Awakens)
- The Clone Wars Main Theme (Kevin Kiner, Star Wars: The Clone Wars)
- Ahsoka Leaves (Kevin Kiner, Star Wars: The Clone Wars)
- Trials of the Darksabre (Kevin Kiner, Star Wars: Rebels)
- Reminiscence Therapy (John Powell, Solo: A Star Wars Story)
- A Long Ride Ahead (Alternate Ending) (Michael Giacchino, Rogue One: A Star Wars Story Soundtrack Expanded Edition)
- The Director's Cut - Rogue One with Gareth Edwards and Chris Miller
- The Filmumentaries Podcast: 35 - Colin Goudie - Editor of Monsters and Rogue One
MUSIC:
"Tenebrous Brothers Carnival - Intermission", "Bicycle", "I Can Feel It Coming", "Screen Saver", "Bleeping Demo", "Stay the Course", "Hiding Your Reality", "Black Vortex", "Floating Cities", "Ever Mindful", "Wisp of Whorls" & "Concentration"
Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com)
Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 4.0 License
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"Suspended Animation", "Proxima Centuri" & "Quiescent In Time" by Shane Ivers - https://www.silvermansound.com
In 2001, The Bourne Identity went through four rounds of reshoots, after going massively over budget and over schedule. The final product, partly directed and potentially edited by producer Frank Marshall instead of director Doug Liman, was a hit. Liman wasn't invited back for the sequel, but writer Tony Gilroy was.
In 2016, Rogue One: A Star Wars Story went through six weeks of reshoots and a massive, post-directors cut re-edit, under the guidance of Tony Gilroy - initially as a writer, and later as a lot more. Lucasfilm would essentially bury his role during the film's promotion, but thanks to the Writers Guild of America, Gilroy got a screenplay credit. To do so, he essentially had to remake Rogue One.
You can follow the show on twitter or tumblr @goingroguepod, or for slightly less hinged content, follow @tansyclipboard on twitter or @tansyg.bsky.social on Bluesky.
If you want to get in touch, you can email [email protected]
CLIPS:
The Bourne Identity Access Granted: Screenwriter Tony Gilroy
Get Out Original Ending with Director Jordan Peele's Commentary
Happy Sad Confused: Chris Weitz
The Moment with Brian Koppelman: Tony Gilroy (2018)
Rogue One: A Star Wars Story
MUSIC:
"Industrial Cinematic", "Hitman", "Black Vortex", "Hero Down", "Concentration", "Hiding Your Reality", "Bleeping Demo", "The Complex", "Scissors", "Screensaver", "Peace of Mind", "Floating Cities", "Stay the Course", "Anguish", "Prelude & Action", "Lost Frontier", "Wisps of Whorls", "On the Shore" & "Rynos Theme"
Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com)
Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 4.0 License
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"Suspended Animation" & "The Paladin's Underworld" by Shane Ivers - https://www.silvermansound.com
By early 2016, Rogue One had wrapped shooting and moved into the edit. Editors Jabez Olssen and Colin Goudie had been cutting the film since the day cameras rolled, but with director Gareth Edwards's loose, unplanned shooting style and habit of shooting images over story, the edit would take, according to Edwards, "three years".
They had nine months.
Meanwhile, in San Francisco, a complete different team were pouring over the Rogue One rushes to create a much shorter version of the film that would be seen by far more people: the trailers. Notably different to the films, the trailers have been the source of Rogue One conspiracy theories since the film's release, but was the film ever anything like the trailers? And were the trailers ever anything like the film?
You can follow the show on twitter or tumblr @goingroguepod, or for slightly less hinged content, follow @tansyclipboard on twitter or @tansyg.bsky.social on Bluesky.
If you want to get in touch, you can email [email protected]
CLIPS:
- E.C. Henry's Rogue One Editor Interview: Colin Goudie (spoiler-free)
- The Director's Cut - Rogue One with Gareth Edwards and Chris Miller
- The Filmmakers Podcast - How To Edit A Star Wars Movie with Rogue One and Monsters Editor Colin Goudie
- A New Hope (George Lucas, 1977)
- Star Wars & The Empire Strikes Back Trailers (Lucasfilm, 1976 & 1979)
- Rogue One Trailers (Lucasfilm, 2016)
- Star Wars: The Last Jedi Trailer (Lucasfilm, 2017)
MUSIC:
"Jet Fueled Vixen", "Floating Cities", "Odyssey", "Lost Frontier", "Bleeping Demo", "Stay the Course", "Hiding Your Reality", "The Complex", "Tenebrous Brothers Carnival - Prelude", "Envision", "Prelude & Action", "Industrial Cinematic", "Lithium", "Intrepid" & "I Can Feel It Coming"
Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com)
Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 4.0 License
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"Suspended Animation" & "I Domine" by Shane Ivers - https://www.silvermansound.com
In August 2015, cameras rolled on Rogue One: A Star Wars Story - and they rolled, and rolled. Gareth Edwards's unconventional shooting style emphasised improvisation not just in performance but also in blocking, camera placement, lighting and all other elements of filming. The film's two distinct shooting styles, initially separated as Empire and Rebellion, started to blur, and the pursuit of shots that felt good often overshadowed the script.
The script, which was still changing, being passed between multiple script doctors after the shoot began. Find out which of your favourite Oscar nominated writer/directors did a pass on Rogue One (number 3 might surprise you!). Also, find out which cast member would start each take by singing the Frozen soundtrack.
Edwards shot first, but that might change in the special edition.
You can follow the show on twitter or tumblr @goingroguepod, or for slightly less hinged content, follow @tansyclipboard on twitter or @tansyg.bsky.social on Bluesky.
If you want to get in touch, you can email [email protected]
CLIPS:
- E.C. Henry's Rogue One Editor Interview: Colin Goudie (spoiler-free)
- The Director's Cut - Rogue One with Gareth Edwards and Chris Miller
- The Filmmakers Podcast - How To Edit A Star Wars Movie with Rogue One and Monsters Editor Colin Goudie
MUSIC:
"Floating Cities", "Bleeping Demo", "Concentration", "Half Mystery", "Vanishing", "I Can Feel It Coming", "Scissors", "Magic Scout - Cottages", "Tenebrous Brothers Carnival - Intermission", "Twisting", "Prelude & Action", "Night Vigil" & "Stormfront"
Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com)
Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 4.0 License
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"Suspended Animation", "Promixa Centauri" & "Quiescent in Time" by Shane Ivers - https://www.silvermansound.com
In 2013, Gareth Edwards pretended he was going to get lunch, and instead went to a meeting with Kiri Hart at Lucasfilm. He was one of a handful of promising young directors who'd been handpicked to direct a new Star Wars film, off the strength of his low-budget debut Monsters. Edwards was offered Destroyer of Worlds, originally pitched by VFX legend and Edwards's personal hero, John Knoll.
Gary Whitta went into his meeting at Lucasfilm surprised to be considered for a film project at all, but his ideas hit the right note, naming basically every major influence Knoll had listed in his pitch. Whitta would write the first draft and come up with the film's title, Rogue One, before being replaced by Chris Weitz, Oscar nominated writer and noted Boba Fett hater.
In the middle of all of this was Colin Goudie, an editor hired twelve months before Rogue One even started shooting, tasked with making the film out of other films.
Welcome to the messy, contradictory world of Rogue One's script.
You can follow the show on twitter or tumblr @goingroguepod, or for slightly less hinged content, follow @tansyclipboard on twitter or @tansyg.bsky.social on Bluesky.
If you want to get in touch, you can email [email protected]
CLIP SOURCES:
- The Sci Fi Talks Podcast
- The Rule of Two
- The Filumentarians
- The Director's Cut
- IGN's WFH Rogue One Livestream
MUSIC:
"Bleeping Demo", "Hiding Your Reality", "Concentration", "Dreamcatcher", "Industrial Cinematic", "Stormfront", "Rynos Theme", "Ever Mindful", "Envision", "Anguish", "Twisting", "Lost Frontier", "Prelude & Action", "Stay the Course" & "Magic Scout"
Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com)
Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 4.0 License
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"Suspended Animation", "Void Glider" & "Quiescent in Time" by Shane Ivers - https://www.silvermansound.com
In 2003, John Knoll heard a rumour on the set of Star Wars Episode III: Revenge of the Sith. It sparked a chain of events that would span two decades, several films and one massive corporate takeover, and would finally result in Rogue One: A Star Wars Story.
This is the story of Rogue One, told by someone who has spent more time thinking about the film than anyone who worked on it (except John Knoll). Each episode of Going Rogue covers a different phase of the film's life and the different lives it lived, from TV episode to low budget war movie to $200million franchise blockbuster.
You can follow the show on twitter or tumblr @goingroguepod, or for slightly less hinged content, follow @tansyclipboard on twitter or @tansyg.bsky.social on Bluesky.
If you want to get in touch, you can email [email protected]
MUSIC:
"Hiding Your Reality", "Floating Cities", "Industrial Cinematic", "Phantom from Space", "Hitman", "Late Night Radio", "Screen Saver", "Odyssey", Sincerely", "Dreaming Flashback" & "Lithium"
Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com)
Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 4.0 License
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"Suspended Animation" & "Quiescent in Time" by Shane Ivers - https://www.silvermansound.com
En liten tjänst av I'm With Friends. Finns även på engelska.