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The Secret Weapon

78 min • 27 november 2020

Eric Rieger  0:00  
All right, everyone, it is now Episode Number 45 Hello KB MD health family and GCP gut check project fans. I'm Eric here with my co host, Dr. Kenneth Brown. We've got an incredible show today. And well, this guy's always referred to a special secret weapon and I'm gonna let him unveil it here in just a moment. But I'm gonna go ahead before he talks about why this secret weapon is a secret weapon. Let's just talk that here in just a moment. Angie cook is a registered nurse. She has some issues such as dysautonomia, miles Ehlers danlos, colonic inertia, severe constipation, all of these different things that she's got experience with that she could actually share a personal story. So, Ken, what brought us here? All right, so

Ken Brown  0:53  
this is what Alright, so this episode is very dear to my heart. And people that don't experience this, you're going to go out? That's kind of an odd topic. But I'm telling you, you want to listen to this. Because we know that there's a connection between digestive health, gut inflammation and the possibility of developing other symptoms, other issues, like dysautonomia, and before you just turn it off? You're like, what's that? Like? Whoa, that's what Angie is going to tell us about today. So Angie, I've always referred to her as my secret weapon on the podcast, you can go back to almost one of the first episodes that we've ever done one, Episode 45. And first of all, Angie, thank you so much for your incredible diligence to researching and backing everything by science. So I get emails from all over the world. And people say, Hey, can you help me with this? And I will email you and say, is there any chance that you could find this article, and then you find me 50 articles related to that, and we sift through them. So one of the most impressive things is that you're a patient of mine, that has gone from having some symptoms, to learning so much about it, that you've actually gotten your master's in nutrition. And you realize that part of this process is that you and I are now a team. And I've gotten to the point where I'm relying on you for information. And this is my exposition of us saying, look, you know so much more than me about this, we need to get this out to the public. And this is what I want to do. I did Chris kresser, his podcast a couple months ago. And immediately him and I ran to the same conclusion. It's not about the bacteria. It's not about this, it's about the motility. What do we do about that? What is it and so what we're going to talk about today is the motility about everything. And your history is incredible. Because if you're somebody who's ever felt frustrated, by the lack of attention that maybe you've gotten in medical community, if you're somebody who's felt frustrated that you're being blown off or anything like that, this is what we're gonna do. We're gonna go from Angie's story about what she has gone through. And then we're gonna geek out on a level that I am so impressed by. So if you're shavon Sarna and you're the CBOE summit person, you're gonna want to listen to this one if you're Chris kresser. I got an email from Ben Greenfield just today or yesterday. Yeah, today asking about what different help with some CBOE people I feel like and what I feel like because this hasn't been done is because you sent me 30 pages of that, I know that you figured this out. This is like the first time ever, these puzzle pieces have been put together. And I'm so excited. So I want to say first of all, I'm honored to be your doctor. Secondly, I'm disappointed I didn't figure it out. And I have not figured it out yet. Thirdly, I'm super proud of your resilience, of your drive and of your determination to not only help yourself, but ultimately share it with other people. So I'm thrilled about this podcast, we have Angie cook on the podcast, Rn, a nutrition Master's in nutrition and just beginning her road to helping lots of people I know this and I know that you're gonna end up writing a book and I know that you're gonna be the motility expert, and that's what we're gonna talk about today. So, welcome.

Angie Cook  4:42  
Thank you, no pressure there.

Eric Rieger  4:46  
I just want to say that was the most detailed introduction we've ever done for anybody

Angie Cook  4:54  
i know i kind of want to run into the other room and hide under a cover

Eric Rieger  4:59  
in Episode 46 sakes, what are we talking about the stuff that we just did in the introduction.

Ken Brown  5:04  
But in all sincerity, it's that important to me. And it's that important that you help me. You teach me so that I can help other people. That's why we're doing this. Definitely.

Angie Cook  5:16  
Thank you. Thank you for having me.

Ken Brown  5:18  
Absolutely. So I'm gonna throw it back at Eric and let him kind of lead. And I'm just going to try and pop in occasionally, because I'm a huge superfan of you. So I'm going to try not to interrupt every 30 seconds.

Eric Rieger  5:31  
Not a problem, not a problem. So Angie, whenever we are dealing with issues of motility, not everyone necessarily understands what the problem is. So when you began to experience problems, and not really even knowing that it was a motility issue, what did you first experience? And then who did you go to to try to find out answers? And then also you take it from there,

Angie Cook  5:55  
right. So I'm to share a little bit about my story. My problems started about eight years ago. And so what happened was at that time, I was actually pretty healthy. I didn't have any kind of diagnoses, I didn't have any medications, I didn't see a doctor on a regular basis for any kind of ongoing reasons. And over a very short period of time, I had sort of what I described as the perfect storm of things happening, and they sort of seemed a little bit unrelated. But the first thing that happened was I started having abdominal pain. And I did have a little bit of trouble with the bowel movements. But my main issue was I just started having really severe pain. So I started by seeing my gynecologist, and I went to him and they found a very large ovarian cyst. So I had surgery right away to get that taken care of. But I still had problems, I still had pain. So then he sent me to another doctor who was a surgeon. And they thought maybe I had appendicitis. So I ended up I did have a problem with my appendix and they removed it. But after that surgery, which was just 30 days after the first so I had two surgeries within 30 days. Both my gynecologist and my surgeon said, Well, we think you're just constipated. And I was shocked. I was like, What do you mean, I'm constipated. I've never had a problem with bowel movements. I've never taken any kind of medication. It's never been anything that has been an issue. For me, it's always been a non issue. Even though I've been having a little bit of trouble, I didn't really consider it constipation. And so I found out very quickly that I did have constipation, and that the pain was relieved when I took medication. But the problem was that I needed a lot of medication. It wasn't just like a normal laxative over the counter, I needed very high doses. And it took my body a very long time to do anything once I took the medication. So they told me to go find a gastroenterologist. And that's when it came to you, Dr. Brown. And all of this happened within about six or eight weeks from where I thought I was fine to where I was severely incapacitated.

Eric Rieger  8:10  
So in that, at that point, when you when you end up going to obviously see Ken and you go to his clinic, I've gotten to know a little bit more about your story, just simply because not only do you experienced this issue and...

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