How It All Went South

Jason discusses the use of cadaver dogs in searching for bodies surrounding open cases and uncovers the case of Sandra Anderson, a renowned dog handler who trained cadaver dogs, particularly her dog Eagle. They gained national recognition for their work in locating human remains. However, it was later discovered that Anderson had been planting evidence at crime scenes, including bones and other items, to make it seem like Eagle had made the discoveries. This led to her arrest and conviction on charges of evidence tampering, obstruction of justice, and lying to investigators.

Sean gives an update on the Slenderman case.

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The Station nightclub fire, during a 2003 Great White concert, killed 100 people and injured 230. The fire was started by pyrotechnics igniting flammable acoustic foam in the walls and ceiling. The club was overcrowded, with 462 people in a venue with a capacity of 404. The fire spread rapidly due to the lack of sprinklers and a series of other terrible circumstances, including fire alarms that weren't connected to the fire department, blocked exits, and a delayed response.

In the aftermath of the tragedy, multiple parties were held responsible. Club owners Jeffrey and Michael Derderian were charged with 200 counts of involuntary manslaughter, while band tour manager Daniel Biechele faced the same charges for setting off the fireworks. Biechele received a four-year prison sentence, and the Derderians each received suspended sentences and probation.

The Station fire led to significant changes in fire safety regulations, including stricter fire codes and a ban on pyrotechnics in certain venues. The tragedy also resulted in numerous lawsuits and settlements, with victims and families receiving $176 million in compensation. A permanent memorial was built at the fire site, and the Station Education Fund was launched to support children who lost parents in the fire.

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Sean discusses the news this week of a French woman who was scammed out of hundreds of thousands of dollars by someone claiming to be Brad Pitt, who the woman thought she was in a real relationship with.

Jason also goes full imposter mode by breaking down the incredible chameleon of the 1950s, Ferdinand ‘Fred’ Waldo Demara, Jr.

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Colleen Stan was kidnapped in 1977 by Cameron and Janice Hooker and held captive for seven years. During her captivity, she was subjected to extreme physical and sexual abuse, including being confined to a box for long periods. Cameron manipulated Colleen into believing that she was a slave and that an underground organization called "the Company" would harm her and her family if she tried to escape. He forced her to sign a "slavery contract" and subjected her to brutal punishments.

In 1984, Janice, consumed by guilt, confessed the truth to Colleen and helped her escape. Colleen returned home to her family and eventually revealed the details of her ordeal. Cameron was arrested and charged with multiple crimes, including kidnapping and rape. He was found guilty and sentenced to a lengthy prison term. Despite the immense trauma she endured, Colleen survived and has shared her story to raise awareness about the horrors of human trafficking and abuse.

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In this episode, Jason explores the world of competitive eating and the not-so-surprising deaths that have resulted from the sport while Sean goes to a dark place to discuss the Dennis and Cynthia Perkins case.

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Jason is all in on psychics with this episode on Dorothy Allison.

Who is she?

Dorothy Allison was a self-proclaimed psychic detective from New Jersey. She gained some notoriety for her work on the Atlanta child murders of 1979-1981 and for her appearances on television shows like "Unsolved Mysteries" and "Secrets of the Unknown."

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Sean discusses the case of two Singaporean nationals who were arrested and are facing charges in U.S. District Courts in Florida and California, respectively, in connection with a massive cryptocurrency theft worth hundreds of millions of dollars.

Jason opens up the dictionary and learns a new term - salami slicing.

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In 1989, a man named Alexi Indris-Santana was accepted to the prestigious Princeton University based on not only his intellect but also his incredible back-story of being a self-educated ranch hand with a 1410 SAT score. The school was so taken with Santana, that they agreed to defer his enrollment one year so that he could care for his sick mother. 

The catch? – the man wasn’t caring for anyone; he was in prison. And his name was not Alexi Santana. It was James Arthur Hogue, a master conman who had fooled even the brightest minds at Princeton. It would be years before anyone there knew Hogue’s real identity, and his past full of lies and deception was unraveled – even then it was all by chance.

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Sean discusses the stalking case of teenager Emma Walker while Jason is all-in ending the year calling out some of the dumbest robberies.

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Sean discusses the gruesome murder of Tim McLean, a 22-year-old carnival worker, who was traveling on a Greyhound bus in Canada. The murder was committed by Vince Li, a Chinese immigrant, who stabbed McLean unprovoked and then decapitated him in front of horrified passengers.

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Jason discusses murder cases that were tied to daytime television shows in the 90s and 2000s while Sean goes deep into an emerging type of addiction.

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Jason discusses the Friendly murders that took place in Palm Springs, California in 1978. The victims were Edward and Sophia Friendly, a wealthy couple with ties to prominent families, and their maid, Francis Williams. The murders were particularly gruesome, with all three victims shot in the head at close range.

The initial investigation focused on Edward Friendly's business dealings, but later shifted to Sophia's strained relationship with her children, Edward Hutton and Sophia Hutton. Sophia had amended her will to disinherit her children after they contested her control over a San Francisco townhouse. The inheritance hinged on whether Sophia or her ex-husband, Curtis Hutton, died first. Curtis was terminally ill at the time of the murders.

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Jason is fascinated by a recent tarantula smuggling incident out of Peru and Sean shares more dumb criminal stories... including the Great Cat Shaver.

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Sean discusses the case of Jennifer Wilbanks, a bride from Duluth, Georgia who went missing days before her wedding in 2004. Despite an extensive search involving local and federal law enforcement, Wilbanks was eventually found in Albuquerque, New Mexico, claiming to have been abducted and sexually assaulted. However, she later confessed to fabricating the story due to the overwhelming pressure of her impending wedding.

Sean and Jason delve into the unusual aspects of the case, including the massive search effort, the media frenzy surrounding Wilbanks' disappearance, and the subsequent backlash she faced upon her return.

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Sean looks back to the incident where Guy Fieri's Lamborghini was stolen by a teenager. Jason discusses the case of Ali Elmezayen and his nomination into the Insurance Fraud Hall of Fame.

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Jason and Sean discuss the case of Jessy Kurczewski, who was convicted of murdering her friend and caretaker, Lynn Hernan. Hernan was found dead in her home, initially thought to be a drug overdose, but toxicology reports revealed a fatal dose of tetrahydrozoline, the main ingredient in eye drops.

Kurczewski was suspected due to her suspicious behavior and criminal record, and further investigation revealed that she had been stealing from Hernan and had made inconsistent statements about Hernan's death. Even after being convicted, Kurczewski continued to try to manipulate the case by writing a letter from prison instructing a friend to forge documents and create a fake audio recording to make it seem like Hernan had committed suicide.

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Sean discusses the notorious Slenderman case out of Waukesha, Wisconsin while Jason stays closer to home with the developing case of Melissa Wolfenbarger's murder.

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The wild story of Joe Passalaqua, a former Olympic hopeful turned gym owner who became in a series of crimes.

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Jason discusses the legendary granny jewel thief Doris Payne. Sean takes on the case of Calum Simpson in the UK.

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Jason and Sean discuss the murder plot of Andre Montgomery, grandson of Miss Robbie, who founded the famous soul food restaurant Sweetie Pie’s in St. Louis. The restaurant was the setting for a popular reality series on the Oprah Winfrey Network. Tim Norman, Miss Robbie’s son, was convicted of conspiring to murder Andre.

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