In this episode Toby sits down with Erik "Smelly" Sandin, drummer of longtime punk band NoFX. They chat about how he got his nickname, how he met Fat Mike, growing up in a tough household with alcoholism, adopted a daughter, being insecure growing up, working at an early age to buy a drum set, starting NoFX at 16, where the name came from, quitting NoFX and getting into drug dealing, doing heroin to get accepted, stealing books for money, squats, rock bottom, rehab and getting sober, NoFX albums taking off, reconciling with his dad, making surfboards, his surf trip to Indonesia, family, social media and not being above work.
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