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CIA Spy: "Leave The USA Before 2030!", "Why You Shouldn't Trust Your Gut!", "I Held The Nuclear Codes Around My Neck" - Andrew Bustamante

126 min • 4 mars 2024

Everyones seen the films, but what does it take to be a real life 007?

Andrew Bustamante is a former covert CIA intelligence officer and US Air Force combat veteran. He is the founder of EverydaySpy, an online education platform that teaches real-world international espionage techniques that can be used in everyday life.

In this conversation Andrew and Steven discuss topics such as, why spy skills work in the business world, how to manipulate people, the ways to take control of your emotions, and why he’s leaving the US before 2030.


(00:00) Intro

(02:10) Your Time At The CIA

(02:47) What Is The CIA?

(03:27) You've Got It Wrong About Spies

(06:13) Applying Real Spy Skills To Overcome Any Barrier In Our Lives

(07:43) How To Manipulate People

(17:45) The Psychological Profile Of A CIA Agent

(20:43) I Held The Key To Nuclear Missiles

(22:45) It Was A Horrible Job

(24:30) Would You Have You Pressed The Nuclear Button?

(26:48) The CIA Message That Changed My Life

(28:43) The Interview Process For The CIA

(32:44) How Did You Feel When You Received That Letter?

(35:07) Did The CIA Tell You To Cut Off From Your Social Circle?

(35:57) Your Ethnicity Factor To Be Recruited By The CIA

(37:16) Do You Have To Change Your Identity?

(38:27) How Expensive Is To Train A CIA Agent?

(38:34) What's The CIA Training Scheme?

(39:17) Do They Show You How To Kill?

(40:19) How You Teach The Art Of Lying

(43:13) Body Language & Lying

(44:59) Demystifying Lying Signs

(47:57) How To Tell If Someone Is Lying

(49:47) Human Psychology

(52:55) The Essence Of Manipulation

(54:32) How To Find Someone's Ideology To Manipulate Them

(58:45) Have You Changed The Way You Look At The World?

(01:02:34) Perception vs Perceptive

(01:04:32) Leaning Into Objective vs Subjective Feelings

(01:05:58) How To Train Yourself To Apply Rational Objective Perspective

(01:08:27) Your Business Success

(01:11:34) What Is SADRAT?

(01:13:40) Change The Game When Selling Your Products

(01:15:46) What Is Espionage?

(01:16:41) What Is Our Secret Life?

(01:20:49) How To Enter Someone's Secret Life

(01:26:06) How To Apply It To Business

(01:28:52) Adapting To Change Faster Than Your Opponent

(01:31:51) Were There Times Your Life Was At Threat?

(01:34:16) Sexpionage, What Is It?

(01:36:22) Disguise, Did You Ever Do It?

(01:41:17) Do CIA Agents Get Trained To Not Feel Fear & Anxiety?

(01:43:56) How Do They Train You To Slow Down Your Emotional Brain?

(01:50:11) Your Wife & You Leaving The CIA

(01:51:38) America Is Going Through A Hard Period

(01:56:58) What's The Advice For Everyone To Make That Change?

(01:59:10) How Does Your Identity Stop You From Evolving?

(01:59:22) What Is Something You Used To Believe That You No Longer Do?


Want to learn more from Andrew?

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Explore Spy School: https://everydayspy.com/

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