Transfigured

Dr. Alister McGrath the Andreas Idreos Professorship in Science and Religion at the University of Oxford. We discuss his book "The Nature of Christian Doctrine : Its Origins, Development, and Function". He has a channel were he shares some of the material from his coursework :  @alistermcgrathchristianthe1158  We mention C.S. Lewis, Paul Vanderklay (  @PaulVanderKlay  ) , Justin Brierley, Richard Dawkins (  @richarddawkins  ), Marcion, Justin Martyr, Novation, the development of the Trinity, Christology, Constantine, and many more.

Fr. Eric Seitz (  @fatherbigmac  ) and Hank Kruse discuss the Old Testament and Jewish roots of Catholic liturgy, the meaning of worship, Justin Martyr, Ignatius of Antioch, Irenaeus, Joseph Ratzinger, Brand Pitre, Bishop Barron, and more.

This video is a respond to Gavin Ortlund (  @TruthUnites  ) regarding his recent video about the Trinity being Apostolic and therefore not an accretion. I mention Paul Vanderklay (  @PaulVanderKlay  ), Dr. Jordan B Cooper (  @DrJordanBCooper  ), Remnant Radio (  @TheRemnantRadio  ), Justin Martyr, Athanasius of Alexandria, Tertullian of Carthage, Origen of Alexandria, John Vervaeke (  @johnvervaeke  ), Jonathan Pageau (  @JonathanPageau  ), Jordan Peterson (  @JordanBPeterson  ), Constantine the Great, Jacob Faturechi (  @faturechi  ), Rabbi Tovia Singer (  @ToviaSinger1  ), Trent Horn (  @TheCounselofTrent  ), Plato, Aristotle, Bethel McGrew, Tripp Parker, Megan Basham, Shepherds for Sale, Austin Suggs (  @GospelSimplicity  ), Larry Hurtado, Richard Bauckham, Francis Watson, Beau Branson, Bill Clinton, Hillary Clinton, Dale Tuggy, James White, Arius of Alexandria, RPC Hanson, Alexander of Alexandria, Hilary of Poitiers, Augustine of Hippo, John Calvin, Eusebius of Caesarea, Basil the Great, Gregory of Nyssa, James Dunn, and many more. Gavin's original video - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gYIBb5SDybg&t=2706s Gavin and PVK - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zMgeekKddfY&t=159s Sam on Trent Horn - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TaoH4sjp58c&t=25s Sam, Bethel, Tripp on Megan Basham - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K85U9l_bfSw&t=1980s Gavin on Gospel Simplicity - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P1xpxyzq92g&t=3488s Jesus and the Divine Name - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eLJ3GGI8Ie8 Development of Christology - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQt_QO4ASAQ&t=3641s Tertullian's Christology - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WB4fja4GQsU&t=930s Did the Early Christians Worship Jesus - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BsKU9YRS8KI&t=2473s Theological Triage - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gWkYm3hSPEw&t=1750s

Dr. Tim Mackie is the creative director of "The Bible Project" and a Professor at Western Seminary. We talk about hermeneutics, the doctrine of the Trinity, the development of doctrine, and how Christians who disagree about Christology can relate to each other. We mention Philo of Alexandria, Constantine, Arius of Alexandria, George Guthrie, and more.

We will discuss the recent kerfuffle between Gavin Ortlund (  @TruthUnites  ) and Megan Basham over her book "Shepherds for Sale". This is a live livestream so there will hopefully be opportunity for questions and comment interaction with the audience.

In this episode, Dustin Smith (  @BiblicalUnitarianPodcast  ) and I argue that Clement of Rome had a biblical unitarian Christology. Clement was a first century bishop of Rome and an Apostolic Father and important figure in early Christianity. We look at his letter to the Corinthians and other historical data to assess his theology. We mention Eusebius of Caesarea, Irenaeus of Lyon, Justin Martyr, the Epistle of Barnabas, Theodotus of Byzantium, Artemon, Origen of Alexandria, Clement of Alexandria, Dynamic Monarchianism and more. Dustin's Book: https://www.amazon.com/Wisdom-Christology-Gospel-Dustin-Smith/dp/B0D248VGC5 My episode with Dustin of Wisdom Christology: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KrMHF57oGlQ&t=3740s Dustin on Plural of Majesty: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1SK2XHEUC9g

Jake Brancatella, the Muslim Metaphysician (. @JakeBrancatella  ), and I have a discussion about Islam, Liberalism, Secularism, Democracy, and the West. We talk about the strengths, problems, and history of liberal democracy and whether or not Muslims can, or should, want to fit in. Jake's channel: https://www.youtube.com/@UCcGQRfTPNyHlXMqckvz2uqQ Our First Discussion: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=11wxT_FYRbs&t=4s Our Second Discussion: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZZqP4EB8zzk&t=4084s My appearance on his channel: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZxLZVVsfdG8&t=2562sJake on Secularism: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_NVZe8_XTU&t=951s

I mention Aphrahat the Persian Sage, the Apostle Paul, Constantine the Great, King Sharpur II, Yazdegerd I, Nestorius of Constantinople, Bishop Mar Mari Immanuel, Mohammad, Genghis Kahn, Tamerlane, Aristotle, Plato, the Ming Dynasty, Doubting Thomas, Patrick Bets-David, Jacob Faturechi (  @faturechi  ), James McGrath, the Mandaeans, Mar Awa III, Bishop Barron, Robert Shlimon, Andrew Tate, Jake Brancatella the Muslim Metaphysician (  @TheMuslimMetaphysician  ), Daniel Haqiqatjou,  @ReasonandTheology  , Trent Horn, Elon Musk, Michael Servetus, John Calvin, Marian Hillar, Fausto Sozzini, Lelio Sozzini, Socinianism, John Locke, Benedict Spinoza, Pierre Bayle, Voltaire, David Hume, James Madison, Thomas Jefferson, John Adams, Justinian, Theodosius the Great, Khalil Andani, Shabir Ally, Robert Spencer, Paul Vanderklay (  @PaulVanderKlay  ), Tim Keller, Ayaan Hirsi Ali, (  @triggerpod  ), Tom Holland, Louis Perry, (  @maidenmothermatriarch  ), Aphrahat the Persian Sage - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1mH3BDSMIbg PBD (  @PBDPodcast  ) religious roundtable - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VzjoHtYN05k Jake on Transfigured - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=11wxT_FYRbs Jake on Mar Mari - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KHH-tP-RmXc&t=127s Tim Keller on secularism - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2n7BDf9KK-s&t=328s Ayaan Hirsi Ali - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b4VJofC_PFA&t=443s

This is our second episode about Basil the Great. We cover his biography in more detail and talk about his commentary on the creation account in Genesis. We mention John Calvin, Origen of Alexandria, Michael Servetus, Russel Brand, Bret Weinstein, Sam Harris, Richard Dawkins, Constantine, Constantius, Theodosius the Great, Athanasius, Jerome, Ambrose, Augustine, Mani, Plato, Aristotle, Epicurus, Gregory of Nyssa, Gregory of Naziuanzus, and more.

I am reposting an interview I gave on  @gpxavier  's channel on the topic of "What is Biblical Unitarianism?" and "What is the connection between the divine and the human". I would highly recommend you check out GP's channel for more great content. Original Video here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vrknh-8Cafs&t=868s

This video helps explain Tertullian's Christology on its own terms in its historical context and in response to polemical arguments with Gnostics and Modalists. It also shows that Tertullian was not an orthodox trinitarian by the later standard definitions. This video mentions  @InspiringPhilosophy  ,  @JayDyer  ,  @TheMuslimMetaphysician  ,  @shamounian  ,  @m.davidlitwa  ,  @MythVisionPodcast  others.

Dr. Dustin Smith is the host of the  @BiblicalUnitarianPodcast  and a New Testament scholar at Spartanburg Methodist College. In this episode we discuss his new book about Wisdom Christology in the Gospel of John. We mention James Dunn, Michael Servetus, the Wisdom of Solomon, Baruch, Philo of Alexandria, and more. Wisdom Christology in the Gospel of John: https://www.amazon.com/Wisdom-Christology-Gospel-Dustin-Smith/dp/B0D248VGC5

Dr. Thomas Gaston has a PhD in Theology from The University of Oxford and a Masters in the History of Christianity from the University of Birmingham. He is the author of a new book "Dynamic Monarchianism: The Earliest Christology?" which argues that Dynamic Monarchianism, often called 'Biblical Unitarianism' in today's parlance, has strong historical evidence for being the earliest Christology. We mention Theodotus of Byzantium, Paul of Samosata, ARtemon, Pope Victor I, Justin Martyr, Ignatius of Antioch, the Epistle of Barnabas, the Shepherd of Hermas, Beryllus of Bostra, Origen of Alexandria, Irenaeus of Lyon, Tatian, Clement of Alexandria, Athenagoras, Melito of Sardis, Constantine, Plato, Numenius of Apamea, Plotinus of Alexandria, Eusebius, Photinus of Galatia, Athanasius of Alexandria, Hipploytus, Tertullian, and more. Book Link: https://www.amazon.com/Dynamic-Monarchianism-Thomas-Edmund-Gaston/dp/1793256721

Dr. Ann Jervis is a Professor Emertia of New Testament at the University of Toronto and a Priest in the Anglican Church of Canada. She is a unique proposal for understanding how the Apostle Paul conceptualizes time, and what implications that has for understanding the rest of his theology. We discuss these ideas mentioning NT Wright, James Dunn, David Bentley Hart, Dale Martin, and more. Paul and Time : https://www.amazon.com/Paul-Time-Life-Temporality-Christ-ebook/dp/B0BW13WS6D

This video continues the church fathers series with Sam and Hank. This is our first episode about St. Basil the Great, the Cappadocian Father. We mention Origen of Alexandria, Gregory of Nyssa, Gregory of Nazianzus, Eunomius, Aetius of Antioch, Justin Martyr, Tertullian, John Calvin, William Lane Craig, John McArthur, Athanasius of Alexandria, Hilary of Poitiers, Theodosius the Great, Constantine, Tom Holland, Paul Vanderklay, Julian the Apostate, and more.

Brendan Graham Dempsey is an author, thinker, and youtuber who has thought deeply about the topic of metamodernism. We discuss what that even is, and what is means for a vibrant Christianity going forward. We mention  @johnvervaeke  , Jordan Hall, Soren Kierkegaard, Virginia Woolf, Hans Nollein, Fr. Stephen DeYoung, Athanasius, James Tabor, and many more. Brendan Graham Dempsey's youtube channel :  @BrendanGrahamDempsey  Sky Meadow Institute: https://skymeadowretreat.com/institute/ Brendan Graham Dempsey on  @PaulVanderKlay  : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ee8wKcBRyy4

Dr. Andrew Perriman returns to discuss the debate between Dr. Dale Tuggy and Dr. James White on the topic of "Is Jesus YHWH?". We discuss multiple of the passages brought up in the debate. We also discuss the larger questions of how these theological questions fit into the narrative context of our time and what that means for the future.My First Convo with Andrew Perriman: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gNTHSASs47YAndrew Perriman's blog: https://www.postost.net/ Andrew Perriman's book "In the form of a god" : https://www.amazon.com/Form-God-Pre-existence-Exalted-Christology/dp/166673067X

In this video Fr. Stephen DeYoung, host of Lord of Spirits and Eastern Orthodox Priest, discuss the Prologue of John and Icons in the Early Church Fathers. We mention Jordan Peterson, Jonathan Pageau, Fr. John Behr, Daniel Boyarin, Shepherd of Hermas, Athanasius of Alexandria, Cerinthius, Irenaeus of Lyon, Justin Martyr, Plotinus of Alexandria, Michael Heiser, Bart Ehrman, Gavin Ortlund ( @TruthUnites ), Paul Vanderklay, William Lane Craig, David Bentley Hart, Clement of Alexandria, Tertullian, Arius of Alexandria, Alexander of Alexandria, St. Anthony of the Desert, Origen of Alexandria, John Vervaeke, Gregory of Palamas, Gregory of Nyssa, Basil the Great, Dionysius the Aereopogite, and more.

Paul Anleitner is the host of  @DeepTalksTheology  . We have talked multiple times before. This conversation focuses specifically on the subject of evolution, how to wrestle with a creationist upbringing, understanding Genesis in its original context, thinking about how Christology fits together, and many related subjects. We mention Charles Darwin, Origen of Alexandria, Athanasius of Alexandria, Maximus the Confessor, Jonathan Losos, John Vervaeke, John Walton, Miroslav Volf, Joseph Campbell, Jordan Peterson, Ludwig Wittgenstein, Soren Kierkegaard, Karl Jung, Sarah Coakley, Nancy Percy, Bret Weinstein, Mihaly Csikszentmihalyi , Epicurus, Dmitri Belyaev, David Sloan Wilson, and many more.

Solo episode on the topic of Jesus's relationship to the Divine Name. I mention Dale Tuggy, James White, David Capes, Carmen Imes and more. Dale Tuggy vs James White Debate: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ky2Sa... David Capes: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EznUe... Carmen Imes on Remnant Radio: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HTC88...

This video is a response to the Lord of Spirits. I argue that Athanasius was indeed an iconoclast and that they misunderstood my argument and didn't properly represent it. I mention Athanasius of Alexandria, Plotinus, Irenaeus of Lyon, Clement of Alexandria, Josephus, Paul Vanderklay, Fr. Stephen DeYoung, Fr. Andrew Damick, Gavin Ortlund, Jordan B Cooper, Jonathan Pageau, and more. Lord of Spirits Episode: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QoZqb6hBKmM&t=437s Sam and Hank on Athanasius: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W7zTIxQLSzc&t=953s Gavin Ortlud (  @TruthUnites  ) on Icons: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ytYX4dXpRo John Carpenter article: https://www.thegospelcoalition.org/themelios/article/answering-eastern-orthodox-apologists-regarding-icons/ Twitter thread on icons: https://twitter.com/ScriptoriumP/status/1754765697626804357 Gavin and Fr. Stephen DeYoung on (  @TheTransfiguredLife  ): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GPqNu60tX30 Jordan B Cooper on (  @PaulVanderKlay  ): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1KEa7KYAvTs&t=1s Sam and Hank on Irenaeus: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yGEvhqCCUhc&t=3927s

Dr. Jonathan Losos is a Professor of Biology at Washington University in St. Louis. He is one of the leading figures in the field of evolutionary biology. He has specifically studied anole lizards, the adaptations to various islands, and has made groundbreaking findings in the area of convergent radiation. We mention David Resnick, Lee Dugatkin, Stephen J Gould, Charles Darwin, Simon Conway Morris, and many more. His book "Improbably Destinies" : https://www.amazon.com/Improbable-Destinies-Chance-Future-Evolution/dp/0399184929 His book "The cat's meow" : https://www.amazon.com/Cats-Meow-Evolved-Savanna-Your/dp/1984878700

John Vervaeke is the director of the Cognitive Science program at the University of Toronto. We discuss the possibility of creating AI sages that can lead to enlightenment as well as the dangers. We mention  @JonathanPageau  ,  @climbingmt.sophia  ( Ken Lowry) , DC Schlinder,  @PaulVanderKlay  , Plotinus, Iamblichus, Ludwig Wittgenstein, Buddha, Charles Taylor, and more.

Jordan Hall is a thinker, truth seeker, and all around fascinating guy. We talk about the meta-crisis, the meaning crisis, religion, artificial intelligence, Christianity, suffering, and the religion that is not a religion. We mention Jordan Vervaeke, Paul Vanderklay, Jonathan Pageau, Bret Weinstein, David Sloan Wilson, Ian McGilchrist, Fr Alexander Schmemann, and many more.

Moises Pachoeco is the pastor of Grace in Garfield CRC church in Chicago. We talk about the Christian Symbolism of Harry Potter. We mention Jordan B Peterson, CS Lewis, JRR Tolkien, John Vervaeke, and many more.

Chicago Meetup : https://www.meetup.com/chicagoland-bridges-of-meaning-meetup/

Sean Finnegan and I talk about the Kingdom of God. We mention Justin Martyr, Clement of Rome, Clement of Alexandria, Origen of Alexandria, Plato, Plato, Plato, Plotinus, Porphyry, Irenaeus of Lyon, Cerinthus, St. Anthony of the Desert, Tertullian, Martin Luther, John Calvin, and many more. Sean's book: https://www.amazon.com/Kingdom-Journe... Restitutio Podcast: https://restitutio.org/get-podcast/ Living Hope International: https://lhim.org/

Dru Johnson is visiting associate professor at Hope College in Holland, MI and the director of the Center for Hebraic Thought, editor at The Biblical Mind Host of The Biblical Mind podcast: https://thebiblicalmind.org/ Co-host of the OnScript Podcast: https://onscript.study/What Hath Darwin to do with Scripture? https://www.amazon.com/What-Hath-Darwin-Scripture-Conceptual/dp/1514003619 We mention Tertullian, Richard Dawkins, Francis Collins, Michael Behe, Fredrick Nietzsche, Sean Carroll, Bret Weinstein, Aristotle, Plato, and many more.

 @TruthUnites  Gavin's Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uwXlBX-fMtA&t=304s My First Response to Gavin: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZBndndnU_U  @PaulVanderKlay  on my response to Gavin: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UlKw7H6zbJo&t=267s My video on The Development of Doctrine: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQt_QO4ASAQ My video on John 1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tqTlnT-J6rk My video on the worship of Jesus: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bi1t3Es6uCY&t=311s

Hank Kruse talks about the theology of the liturgy in the work of Karl Ratzinger (Pope Benedict XVI). We mention Origen of Alexandria, Tripp Parker, John Calvin, Hans Van Balthasar, Augustine, Thomas Aquinas, Berengarius, Bonaventure, Justin Martyr, Ignatius of Antioch, and more. Karl Ratzinger - Introduction to Christianity: https://www.amazon.com/Introduction-Christianity-2nd-Communio-Books/dp/1586170295

Malcolm Collins is one of the hosts of  @SimoneandMalcolm  He and his wife published https://www.amazon.com/Pragmatists-Guide-Crafting-Religion-Demographic/dp/B0BSJ5SXK2 His appearance on  @ChrisWillx  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EwIeDuHwXJY His and Simone on  @PaulVanderKlay  : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a6eSBWxtjJs We talk about fertility collapse, religion, and how to design a religion that can resist this pattern.

Will Barlow is the Pastor of Compass Christian Church. In this video we discuss speaking in tongues. We mention NT Wright,  @PaulVanderKlay  , Justin Welby, Victor Weirwille, and others. Compass Christian Church - https://compasslou.org/  @compasslou  youtube - https://www.youtube.com/@compasslou Will's 7-part series on Speaking in Tongues - https://studydrivenfaith.org/media/audio-teachings/corinthians-seminar/ Will's debate on Speaking in Tongues - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WAgB-rKS1zs Will's talk with  @restitutio8765  - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6qiAIqfScb8

This is a special Christmas episode looking into the question "Did St. Nicholas really slap Arius at the Council of Nicaea?" Constantine and the Divine Mind : https://www.amazon.com/Constantine-Divine-Mind-Primitive-Monotheism/dp/1532689926 Interview with Kegan: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mXIj5OH40IA Interview with Richard Rubenstein: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H6c0lEZAh-E Episode about Arius: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ezeRekmP6ws

Hilary of Poitier was a Bishop in western France in mid-fourth century. He is one of the first Trinitarian Theologians who would be able to pass later orthodox standards. He plays a very interesting role in the history of the fourth century. We mention Athanasius of Alexandria, Arius of Alexandria, Constantius, Constantine the Great, Julian the Apostate, Martin Luther, John Calvin, Michael Servetus, Karl Barth, and more.

Antonio is a friend of mine and frequent conversation partner. He discusses his own theological journey and asks me some tough questions. We mention  @PaulVanderKlay  , Aaron Renn, Bethel McGrew,  @ParkersPensees  , Soren Kierkegaard, Jordan Peterson, Bret Weinstein, Bart Ehrman, Tripp Parker,  @JamesTaborVideos  , Brandon Duke, Paula Fredriksen, William Lane Craig, Dale Tuggy, Beau Branson, Joshua Sijuwade, Justin Martyr, Irenaeus of Lyon, and many more.

Nathan is the Assistant Pastor at the Oregon, IL Church of God: https://www.oregoncog.com/home.html

We talk about Ignatius of Antioch and which of his writings are authentic and what what means for his theology. We also mention Clement of Rome, Justin Martyr, Sean Finnegan, Irenaeus of Lyon, Eusebius of Caesarea, Paul of Samosata, James White, John Calvin, JB Lightfoot, Gregory of Nyssa, Basil the Great, Origen of Alexandria,

Nathan's GoFundMe: https://www.gofundme.com/f/nathan-achieve-a-masters-degree

This video describes the variety of development of Christology in early Christianity and tries to determine which theology has the best claim on being the original teaching of the apostles. This video summarizes lots of information from my church fathers series. I mention Clement of Rome, Shepherd of Hermas, Artemon, Theodotus of Byzantium, Paul of Samosata, Photinus of Galatia, Justin Martyr, the Epistle of Barnabas, Athenagoras, Tertullian, Irenaeus of Lyon, Theophilus of Antioch, Novatian, Ignatius of Antioch, Alexander of Alexandria, Arius of Alexandria, Constantine, Origen of Alexandria, Fr. John Behr, Athanasius, Gregory of Nyssa, Augustine of Hippo, Valentinus, Martin Luther, and more.

This video is a longer version of a presentation I will be giving at the UCA Conference on Oct 19-21. This is my interpretation of the Prologue of the Gospel of John. My apologies about the bing noises, I forgot to silence my calendar notifications. UCA Conference Registration: https://www.unitarianchristianalliance.org/please-register-asap/ My talk with Fr. John Behr: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4S4BZJcqF0&t=2785s My talk with Troels Engberg-Pedersen: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_1TGYwL8WQ0&t=2747s My response to Gavin Ortlund: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_1TGYwL8WQ0&t=2747s

Marcellus on Ancyra was a very important and influential Bishop who played a large and influential role in the Fourth Century Arian Crisis. However, he is largely forgotten. His theology is unique and doesn't really fit in any category. We mention Eusebius of Caesarea, Eusebius of Nicomedia, Constantine, Athanasius of Alexandria, Origen of Alexandria, Ambrose of Milan, Augustine of Hippo, Martin Luther, John Calvin, Arius of Alexandria, Hillary of Poitiers, Photinus of Galatia, Basil the Great, Gregory of Nyssa, Gregory of Nazianzus, and more.

Jordan Daniel Wood comes on my podcast for a second time. We continue to talk about his book "The Whole Mystery of Christ" and about Maximus the Confessor. We mention Origen of Alexandria, Athanasius, Sergei Bulgakov, Nestorius, Arius, Maurice Blondel, and many more.

History and Dogma Podcast - https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/history-and-dogma/id1702741919

The Whole Mystery of Christ - https://www.amazon.com/Whole-Mystery-Christ-Incarnation-Confessor/dp/0268203474

This is an invitation to conversation, dialogue, and constructive critique to Gavin Ortlund. In this video I give some commentary on a video he made about the Trinity and then give a presentation which argues that the doctrine of the Trinity developed over time and should be rejected by Protestants.

Tripp and Hank join me to discuss Christian Nationalism and what all the controversy is about. We are critical of both the pro-CN and the anti-CN sides and try and suggest some better alternatives and give greater context to the conversation. We mention Doug Wilson, Stephen Wolfe, William Wolfe, Eusebius of Caesarea, Constantine the Great, Athanasius of Alexandria, Charlemagne the Great, Thomas Jefferson, Benjamin Franklin, John Adams, Michael Servetus, Ronald Reagan, George Bush, Barack Obama, Donald Trump, Vivek Ramaswamy, Justin Martyr, Athenagoras, and more.

Luke and I have another conversation specifically processing confessionalism in churches and its strengths and weaknesses and related that to our prior church experiences. Luke's Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@WhiteStoneName

This is a presentation I gave at the 2022 Unitarian Christian Alliance Conference. The topic is on the biblical definition of worship, the meaning of the eucharist, whether or not early Christianity worshiped Jesus, and what that means for Christians today. I mention Larry Hurtado, Joshua Sijuwade, James Dunn, Thomas Aquinas, Richard Rubenstein, Sean Finnegan, Pliny the Elder, John Calvin, Martin Luther, Ulrich Zwingli, and more. Unitarian Christian Alliance 2023: https://www.unitarianchristianalliance.org/ Personal Update: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJvcrgL79BY Original Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BsKU9YRS8KI&t=7s

Telling my story to Paul Vanderkaly -    • A Non-Trinitarian Amidst Evangelicals...   Telling my story to Sean Finnegan - https://restitutio.org/2020/11/27/367...

Aphrahat was a Persian Aramaic speaking church father. Not much is known about him and he is also not very well known. Hank and Sam continue their church fathers series and explain why he should be more well known. We mention Justin Martyr, Irenaeus, Athanasius, Constantine, Origen of Alexandria, Arius of Alexandria, and many more.

My friends Hank and Tripp come on to talk about Calvinism. We mention John MacArthur, Bill Hybels, John Calvin, Michael Servetus, Jacobus Arminius, Thomas Aquinas, Augustine, Tertullian, Justin Martyr, Irenaeus, Joe Biden, Henry VIII, Kristin Kobes Du Mez, Charles Spurgeon, James White, William Lane Craig, and many more.

This is another episode in our church fathers series. We talk about the later life and times of Athanasius. We mention Arius, Marcellus of Ancyra, Julian the Apostate, Iamblichus, William Lane Craig, Jake Brancatella, Photinus of Galatia, John Calvin, Michael Servetus and many more. Athanasius - Part 1 - Against the Heathen :    • Athanasius - Part...   Athanasius - Part 2 - On the Incarnation - Part 2 :    • Athanasius - Part...   Athanasius - Part 3 - His Middle Life and Writings -   • Athanasius - Part...   Jake Brancatella on Athanasius and Apollinarianism -    • Hidden Heresies E...  

This is another episode in our church fathers series. We talk about the life and times of Athanasius from . We mention Timothy Barnes, Karl Max, Arius, Eusebius of Nicomedia, Constantine, Constantius, Constans, Marcellus of Ancyra, Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama, Donald Trump, and more. Athanasius - On the Incarnation - Part 1 : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W7zTIxQLSzc Athanasius - On the Incarnation - Part 2 : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GBsu4Nr6pV8&t=2790s

My friend Jon came on my channel to discuss my UCA presentation. We talked about his background is charismatic churches, montanism, his new youtube channel, the eucharist, worship, Christology and more. We mention Dale Tuggy, Thomas Aquinas, Tertullian, Origen, Justinian and more. My UCA presentation - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BsKU9YRS8KI Jon's commentary(  @montaneist  ) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ua7AcflHEOA&t=150s Sam, Jon and Paul Anleitner discussing charismaticism - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rZSPFxUp9CA

Dustin Smith and Will Barlow discuss their recent debate with Samuel Nesan and Kyle Essary on the topic "Does the Bible Teach that Jesus is YHWH?". We mention Dale Tuggy, Sean Finnegan, and many others. Original Debate Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iSPU45IWErA Dustin's  @BiblicalUnitarianPodcast  on Misunderstanding in John: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AUNLO9Zm83o Will's Church: Compass Christian Church in Louisville, KY: https://www.compasslou.org/ Restitutio Debate Response: https://restitutio.org/2023/04/13/491-refuting-kyle-essarys-case-that-jesus-is-yahweh/ My conversation with Will : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=46TvgJa1wlg&t=5043s My conversation with Dustin : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ykRjS8IaefM&t=39s

In this video we discuss Athanasius of Alexandria and his two part works of "Against the Heathen" and "On the Incarnation". We mostly focus on "On the Incarnation". This is part 2. We mention Origen of Alexandria, Tertullian, Irenaeus of Lyon, Hippolytus, Arius of Alexandria, Anthony of the Desert, Paul of Samosata, Constantine, Alexander of Alexandria, Eusebius of Caesarea, Augustine of Hippo, Martin Luther, Bishop Barron, John Calvin, Billy Graham, Pope Benedict, Thomas Aquinas, Jordan Peterson, Marcellus of Ancyra, and Ayn Rand. On the Incarnation Part 1 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W7zTIxQLSzc St. Anthony of the Desert - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UJJ4mq-CJ04&t=1s

Fr. Stephen DeYoung is an Eastern Orthodox Priest at Archangel Gabriel Orthodox Church in Lafayette, Louisiana. He is also the author of multiple books and the host of the "Lord of Spirits" podcast and the "Whole Counsel of God" podcast. We mention Troels Engberg-Pedersen, Cerinthus, Moby Dick, The Ascension of Isaiah, Beau Branson, Gregory of Nazianzus, Gregory of Nyssa, Gregory Palamas, Maximus the Confessor, Aristotle, Augustine of Hippo, Martin Luther, John Calvin, Michael Servetus, William Ellery Channing, and many more.   

Religion of the Apostles - https://www.amazon.com/Religion-Apostles-Orthodox-Christianity-Century-ebook/dp/B0947BRDGS?ref_=ast_author_mpb 

Our First Conversation - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LMVBmpN8c7c&t=8312s 

My Presentation at the UCA - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BsKU9YRS8KI

Jordan Daniel Wood is a Catholic theologian and stay-at-home dad of four young daughters. He holds a PhD in Historical Theology from Boston College. I have talked with him before with John Vervaeke, and Nathan Hile. We talk mostly about his book "The Whole Mystery of Christ" and Maximus the Confessor. We also mention Hans Urs von Balthasar, Friedrich Nietzsche, Barton Stone, Alexander Campbell,  John Piper, Tim Keller, NT Wright, Marcion, Origen of Alexandria, Athanasius of Alexandria, Augustine of Hippo, Fr John Behr, Ralph Waldo Emerson, Thomas Aquinas, Gregory of Nazianzus, Gregory of Nyssa, Evagrius Ponticus, Josephus, Hillary of Poitiers, Cyril of Alexandria, Dionysius the Areopagite, Karl Rahner, Friedrich Wilhelm Joseph Schelling, Nestorius, and many more.  

The Book "The Whole Mystery of Christ" : https://www.amazon.com/Whole-Mystery-Christ-Incarnation-Confessor/dp/0268203474 

Our previous conversation on Grail Country: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qjyz-HwQM10

In this video we discuss Athanasius of Alexandria and his two part works of "Against the Heathen" and "On the Incarnation". We mostly focus on "Against the Heathen". This is part 1 and part 2 will focus more on "On the Incarnation". We mention Origen of Alexandria, Tertullian, Hippolytus, Arius of Alexandria, Constantine, Eusebius of Caesarea, Martin Luther, Bishop Barron, John Calvin, Ralph Waldo Emerson, and many more.

My friends Bethel McGrew and Tripp Parker return to Transfigured to do a commentary on the recent conversation hosted by the Hoover Institution with Tom Holland, Douglas Murray, and Stephen Meyer called "Does God Exist?"  

The original conversation: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o2u54a1FL28&t=2999s 

Our last conversation: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OLscNZsAT_A&t=4732s

Dr. Michael Bird is Academic Dean and lecturer at Ridley College and an Anglican Priest. He is the author of multiple books and a well know research in early christianity and the New Testament. We talk about his new book "Jesus Among the gods". We also mention Troels Engberg-Pederson, Bart Ehrman, Andrew Perriman, Richard Bauckham, NT Wright, Larry Hurtado, Jeremiah Coogan, David Litwa, Justin Martyr, Athenagoras, Philo of Alexandria, Plato, Tertullian, Ignatius of Antioch, John Calvin, Marcellus of Ancyra, Athanasius of Alexandria, Paul of Samosata, Theodotus of Byzantium, and many more.   

Dr. Bird's book "Jesus Among the gods": https://www.amazon.com/Jesus-among-gods-Christology-Greco-Roman/dp/1481316753 

Dr. Bird's twitter: https://twitter.com/mbird12

Dr. Bird's substack: https://michaelfbird.substack.com/

Dr. Bird's youtube channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC21I7qYVHPsOzL9ujxiRWZA

Dr. Andrew Perriman has a PhD from the London Bible College, He is involved with a missional church in Westbourne Grove, London, and he the author of multiple books. In this interview we mostly talk about his newest book "In the Form of a god: The Pre-Existence of the Exalted Christ in Paul". We mention NT Wright, James Dunn, Richard Bauckham, Gordon Fee, James McGrath, Eusebius of Caesarea, Constantine the Great, and more.   

Andrew's Blog: https://www.postost.net/ 

The Book: https://www.amazon.com/Form-God-Pre-existence-Exalted-Christology/dp/166673067X

This is the second video on the Council of Nicaea in Sam and Hank's ongoing church fathers series. We specifically discuss neoplatonism, Plotinus, Origen of Alexandria, Constantine the Great, Arius of Alexandria, Athanasius of Alexandria, Alexander of Alexandria, Eusebius of Caesarea, Arthur Holmes, Peter Adamson, and Khalil Andani and more.   

Council of Nicaea Part 1 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZliU8EYggX4 

Arthur Holmes on Middle Platonism - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sic5OdUIkgk&t=4s 

History of Philosophy without any gaps: Plotinus - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MrWFuMkfHlc 

Khalil Andani on Islamic Neoplatonism - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CM2PHJsn9xQ&t=2041s

Dr Steven Nemes has a PhD from Fuller Theological Seminary. He is the author of many books. He has appeared on many YouTube channels is a prominent public theologian. In this conversation we talk about his views on post-Catholic theology, ecclesiology, and how to talk about the Trinity and the Incarnation. We mention Dale Tuggy, Brett Salkeld, Justin Martyr, Ulrich Zwingli, and many more.   

Dr. Steven Nemes's youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@DrStevenNemes 

Dr. Steven Nemes's website: https://stevennemes.com/ 

Dr. Steven Nemes on Trinities: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pyi38X0Wku0

Orthodoxy and Heresy: https://www.cambridge.org/core/elements/abs/orthodoxy-and-heresy/50689A55E19FDEC6B45FF3F3DAE2BBC2

The Council of Nicaea was the first major ecumenical church council. Here we discuss the main people in attendance as the canons issued from the Council. We mention Hosius of Cordoba, Eusebius of Caesarea, Eusebius of Nicomedia, Alexander of Alexandria, Athanasius of Alexandria, Arius of Alexandria, Constantine the Great, Paul of Samosata, Novatian of Rome, and of course Richard Nixon.   

Novatian of Rome: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bSIZOjMe2iA&t=1s

Paul of Samosata : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-fe4xO6IZRc

Eusebius of Caesarea: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AVHaxczU_PA&t=4019s

Arius of Alexandria: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ezeRekmP6ws&t=2982s

Constantine the Great: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YyL6pFaAuL8

Micah Redding is the Executive Director of the Christian Transhumanist Association. He writes and speaks about transhumanism, technology, artificial intelligence, and Christian theology. We talk about what transhumanism is, how it relates to Christian ideas such as everlasting life and theosis.  We mention Dale Tuggy, Ray Kurzweil, David Pierce, Julian Huxley, Pierre Teilhard de Chardin, Elon Musk, Max Tegmark, Barton Stone, Thomas Campbell, Thomas Jefferson, Athanasius, William Ellery Channing, and more.

Micah Redding Website: https://www.micahredding.com/

Micah Redding twitter: https://twitter.com/micahtredding

Christian Transhumanism Association: https://www.christiantranshumanism.org/CTA 

facebook: https://www.facebook.com/groups/ChristianTranshumanistAssociation/

Dr. Robert Kokenyesi is a Professor at Lewis and Clark Community. He runs the website Unitariantorch.com which is a repository of history related to the Transylvanian Unitarian Church. He translates sermons from Hungarian into English and documents their history. He shares his amazing story. We mention Prince John Sigismund Zapolya, Ferenc David, Ronald Reagan, and many others. 

In this video I talk again with my friend Rivers o Feden. We go through the famous Philippians 2 "Christ Hymn" passages verse by verse and word by word to try and understand it and give a plausible interpretative framework.   

Rivers o Feden on John 1 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hOFCuSuhPJs&t=207s 

My Debate with Chris Date - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0a7tsC_6T80&t=3s

Chris Date Debate Review - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P62mtDtsq4M&t=878s

This is an episode in the church fathers series with Sam and Hank about Constantine the Great.   

Constantine and the Divine Mind: https://www.amazon.com/Constantine-Divine-Mind-Kegan-Chandler/dp/1532689934 

Sam and Kegan Chandler: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mXIj5OH40IA&feature=youtu.be

Dr. Troels Engberg-Pedersen is a Professor Emeritus of New Testament exegesis at the University of Copenhagen. In this conversation we talk specifically about the relationship between Christianity and Stoicism as seen specifically in the New Testament authors Paul and John. We look at their understand of the spirit (pneuma) and the logos. We then discuss how this Stoic understanding of the pneuma can help us better understand the Christology of the Gospel of John. We also mention also scholars like Wayne meeks, Ernst Käsemann, and many more. 

Dr. Engberg-Pedersen is the author of many books.

John and Philosophy - https://www.amazon.com/John-Philosophy-Reading-Fourth-Gospel/dp/0198792506/ref=sr_1_8?qid=1665433163&refinements=p_27%3ATROELS+ENGBERG-PEDERSEN&s=books&sr=1-8&ufe=app_do%3Aamzn1.fos.006c50ae-5d4c-4777-9bc0-4513d670b6bc

Stoicism in Early Christianity - https://www.amazon.com/Stoicism-Early-Christianity-Tuomas-Rasimus/dp/0801039517/ref=sr_1_2?qid=1665433163&refinements=p_27%3ATROELS+ENGBERG-PEDERSEN&s=books&sr=1-2

Arius of Alexandria is the most famous heretic of all time with "Arian" becoming a byword for heterodoxy. Arius is often very misunderstood and the events at the beginning of the Arian controversy are little known. In this conversation Sam and Hank talk about the events of Arius's life and describe what he believed and why that caused so much controversy. We mention Lucian of Antioch, Alexander of Alexandria, Anthony of Desert, Eusebius of Caesarea, Eusebius of Nicomedia, Constantine the Great, Athanasius of Alexandria, Origen of Alexandria, Diocletian, Shia Lebouf, and more.

This is an episode in the church fathers series with Sam and Hank. In this episode we discuss Eusebius of Caesarea, the famous historian and theologian. We also mention Arius of Alexandria, Alexander of Alexandria, Eusebius of Nicomedia, Constantine the Great, and many others. 

Dr. James Tabor is a recently retired Professor of Religious Studies at the University of North Carolina at Charlotte. He is an expert on Early Christianity and Greco-Roman religions more broadly. He has written many books and published many articles. He has his own YouTube channel and blog as well. In this episode we talk about the Apostle Paul's cosmology and how that helps us understand his Christology. 

In this episode I talk with Kal Rivet, the host of the "Universalism Against the World" podcast. We mention Jacob Faturechi, John Hick, Chris Langan, Bertrand Russel, Kurt Godel, Gottlob Frege, Keith Ward, Chris Date, Jon VanZeen, Preston Sprinkle, James White, John Vervaeke, Paul Vanderklay, and more.  

Universalism Against the World: https://open.spotify.com/show/3d4QlAnRwp51f9psDU04xh

In this conversation I talk with one of the leading evolutionary biologists, Dr. David Sloan Wilson. Dr. Wilson's work has focused on the important of groups in evolution and how that relates to human societies and religion. We talk about the origin of religion from an evolutionary perspective and discuss whether this undermines religious belief or whether it can strengthen it. We mention Richard Dawkins, Sam Harris, Christopher Hitchens, Daniel Dennett, Charles Darwin, Bret Weinstein, EO Wilson, Emile Durkheim, Terrence Deacon, Richard Sosis, Eric Hobsbawn, Terence Ranger, Elinor Ostrom and more.   

Dr. David Sloan Wilson: https://evolution-institute.org/profile/david-sloan-wilson/ 

Prosocial World: https://www.prosocial.world/the-science 

Darwin's Cathedral: https://www.amazon.com/Darwins-Cathedral-Evolution-Religion-Society/dp/0226901351/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=darwin%27s+cathedral&qid=1654269676&s=books&sprefix=darwin%27s+cathde%2Cstripbooks%2C108&sr=1-1

Hank and I continue our church fathers series with St Anthony of the Desert. He is the founder of monasticism and the archetypal Christian hermit. His story and theology are very interesting.

Contact me about the event: [email protected]  

This Conversation on Transfigured https://youtu.be/FGBMunwJrNw 

Meetup event for June 7th: https://www.meetup.com/Chicagoland-Br... 

Meetup event for June 8th: https://www.meetup.com/Chicagoland-Br... 

Chicago Bridges of Meaning Meetup: https://www.meetup.com/Chicagoland-Br... 

We mention Lydia McGrew, Timothy McGrew, Jordan Peterson, Timothy Keller, Douglas Murray, Bret Weinstein, David Brooks,  Heather Heying, James R Wood, @faturechi , Sam Harris, Kristin Kobes Du Mez, Rachel Held Evens, Francis Collins, John McWhorter, Doug Wilson, Christopher Hitchens, Rod Dreher, Bishop Barron, John Vervaeke, and more.

Jonathen Favors is a friend I met through the Unitarian Christian Alliance. He has a unique perspective on how to understand the Christology in the Gospel of John by focusing on the Holy Spirit. This also connects with the scholarly work of Troels Engberg-Pederson. We also mention Justin Martyr, Athenagoras, Origen of Alexandria, Anthony Buzzard, Sean Finnegan, Fred Sanders, Gitte Buch Hansen, Troy Martin, Dustin Smith, Bill Schlegel, Dale Tuggy, Ruben Zimmermann, David Litwa, Andrew Perry and others.

Troels Engberg-Pederson "John and Philosophy" : https://www.amazon.com/John-Philosophy-Reading-Fourth-Gospel/dp/0198792506  

Troels Engberg-Pederson on Stoicism and Christianity: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AC6gIa6CRjk  

Gitte Buch Hansen "It is the Spirit that Gives Life" : https://www.amazon.com/Spirit-that-Gives-Life-Neutestamentliche/dp/3110225972

Unitarian Christian Alliance: https://www.unitarianchristianalliance.org/

Nate Hile is a friend of mine through the Paul Vanderklay community. He is the host of  @Grail Country  . He pointed out the book "Apocalypse and Tradition" by David Bentley Hart as a book that would catch my interest. This is our wide ranging discussion of that interesting book. We mention John Henry Newman, Thomas Aquinas, Bret Weinstein,  John Vervaeke,  Plato,  Jordan Peterson, Owen Barfield,  William Lane Craig,  Stanley Hauerwas, Charles Darwin, Aristotle, Wolfgang Smith, Donald Trump, Alexander Dugin, John Adams, Steven Pinker, Jonathan Pageau, Robert Jensen, Arius, Athanasius, Marcellus of Ancyra, Fr John Behr, Justin Martyr, and many more.   

Nate's Youtube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCsi_x8c12NW9FR7LL01QXKA 

PVK and the Esoteric Randos: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=stW8sZnuFyo

Will Barlow is planting a new Biblical Unitarian Church in Louisville, KY. We talk about the opportunities and challenges of starting a BU church. We talk about his faith journey and background. We also talk about how to interpret John 1. We also talk about the interactions between science and faith. He has a very similar story to my own and he is a wonderful conversation partner.   

Compass Christian Church - https://compasslou.org/

Will Barlow on Restitutio - https://restitutio.org/speaker/william-barlow/

Will's Science and Faith Series - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5WwypAP39Hw&list=PLN9jFDsS3QV1Etu1jXO3jbUQ6CFI-2k6W

Will's Theology Blog - https://studydrivenfaith.org/author/willbarlow/

Sam on Restitutio - https://restitutio.org/2020/11/27/367-excommunicated-for-my-beliefs-sam/

Sean Finnegan on Transfigured - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ryOKopkgWQk

Hank and I continue our Church Fathers series with Paul of Samosata. Paul is one of the most fascinating and controversial figures from before the Council of Nicaea. He was the Bishop of Antioch but was excommunicated by a Synod of other Bishops and was even deposed by Roman troops. He is most famous for his Christology which viewed Jesus as a human who began to exist in Mary and was elevated to divinity through his obedience to God. Hank and I tell his fascinating story.

Dr. James McGrath is a Professor of Religion at Bulter University. He is a widely respected expert on Early Christian History, Christology, and the New Testament. In this conversation we discuss the Gospel of John and it's Christology. We focus mostly on the contents of his book "John's Apologetic Christology".  We mention James Dunn, NT Wright, Richard Bauckham, Larry Hurtado, The Mandaeans, Lydia McGrew, Justin Martyr, Arius of Alexandria, Fr Stephen DeYoung, Philo of Alexandria, Origen of Alexandria, The Book of Enoch, and more.   

John's Apologetic Christology: https://www.amazon.com/Johns-Apologetic-Christology-Legitimation-Development/dp/0521803489

Dr. McGrath's twitter: https://twitter.com/religionprof

Dr. McGrath's blog: https://www.patheos.com/blogs/religionprof/

Dr. McGrath's Youtube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UClOdSlk7Rb7XIYTgZKSH-Mw 

Dr. McGrath's works repository: https://works.bepress.com/jamesmcgrath/ 

Video of Mandaean Baptism: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TF_vKco3PHc

This is another episode in our Church Fathers series. We look at Hippolytus and Novatian. These are two important figures from the early and mid 3rd century. We look at how the early church operated, how they view baptism, how they viewed eschatology, and of course Christology.

Fr. John Behr is the Regius Professor of Humanity at the University of Aberdeen. He has a long and prestigious career in early Christian theology and is one of the leading scholars on the Patristics. He has done many translations of the early church fathers. In this conversation we specifically talk about Origen. We mention Karl Barth, Jaroslav Peliko, Metropolitan John Zizioulas, Diodorus of Tarsus, Theodore of Mopsuestia, Gregory of Nyssa, and more. 

Fr. Behr's translation of "On First Principles": https://www.amazon.com/Origen-First-Principles-Oxford-Christian/dp/0198845316/ref=pd_lpo_1?pd_rd_i=0198845316&psc=1 

Irenaeus of Lyons: https://www.amazon.com/Irenaeus-Lyons-Identifying-Christianity-Christian/dp/0199214638/ref=sr_1_1?crid=H1Q18A238CTL&keywords=behr+irenaeus&qid=1646669580&s=books&sprefix=behr+irenaeus%2Cstripbooks%2C112&sr=1-1

Fr. Stephen DeYoung is an Eastern Orthodox Priest at Archangel Gabriel Orthodox Church in Lafayette, Louisiana. He is also the author of multiple books and the host of the "Lord of Spirits" podcast and the "Whole Counsel of God" podcast. In this conversation we talk about the dangers of materialism, the nature of worship, Christology, and seeing Jesus in the Old Testament.  

Lord of Spirits podcast: https://www.ancientfaith.com/podcasts/lordofspirits  

Whole Counsel of God: https://www.ancientfaith.com/podcasts/wholecounsel  

The Religion of the Apostles: https://www.amazon.com/Religion-Apostles-Orthodox-Christianity-Century-ebook/dp/B0947BRDGS  

God is a Man of War: https://www.amazon.com/God-Man-War-Violence-Testament-ebook/dp/B09H3K1C4W/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=god+is+a+man+of+war&qid=1646332285&s=digital-text&sprefix=god+is+a+man+of%2Cdigital-text%2C101&sr=1-1

This is my second conversation with Dr Lydia McGrew. She is a analytic philosopher and an expert on the historicity of the gospels. In this episode we focus specifically on her book "The Eye of the Beholder" which is about the Gospel of John.

Our First Conversation: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YPDqacoxzKA

Lydia's Youtube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCSwhBk0vUSg_6prKkR82IDQ

Lydia's playlist on the temple cleansings: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n4TzGiFCeLE&list=PLe1tMOs8ARn0QhpT_JgxzoxmUolEg9d3K

Lydia's facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/lydiamcgrewauthor

The Eye of the Beholder: https://www.amazon.com/Eye-Beholder-Gospel-Historical-Reportage/dp/1947929151/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=the+eye+of+the+beholder&qid=1646156186&s=books&sprefix=the+eye+of+the+beho%2Cstripbooks%2C110&sr=1-1

The Mirror and the Mask: https://www.amazon.com/Mirror-Mask-Liberating-Gospels-Literary/dp/1947929070/ref=sr_1_2?crid=38V7YERE2SWBE&keywords=the+mirror+and+the+mask&qid=1646156202&s=books&sprefix=the+mirror+and+the+mask%2Cstripbooks%2C162&sr=1-2

Hidden in Plain View: https://www.amazon.com/Hidden-Plain-View-Undesigned-Coincidences/dp/1936341905/ref=pd_bxgy_img_1/131-1884983-7395658?pd_rd_w=ZXxCk&pf_rd_p=6b3eefea-7b16-43e9-bc45-2e332cbf99da&pf_rd_r=9Z4TGHZA19WHRY4BFDSX&pd_rd_r=1d46f8b2-d88a-4daa-bbfa-0bcf49ee35d3&pd_rd_wg=cbYrg&pd_rd_i=1936341905&psc=1

This is the last of 4 episodes with Sam and Hank on Origen in our Church Fathers series. In this episode we specifically focus on the Origenist Controversies after his life, "The Commentary of the Gospel of John", "The Commentary on the Gospel of Matthew", and "Dialogue with Heraclides". We hope you enjoy.   We mention Jordan Peterson, The Emperor Justinian, John Chrysostom, Father John Behr, Jerome, Bishop Barron, Nestorius, Athanasius, Arius, Pope Dyonysius of Alexandria, Epiphanius of Salamis, Augustine of Hippo, Tertullian, and more. 

First Episode on Origen: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N1awPZQ4VXQ

Second Episode on Origen: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R4JnmsLQ4hA&t=936s

Third Episode on Origen: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tsL61NJxIqA&t=2366s 

Dale Tuggy on Origen and Heraclides: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3j98WhBemHU

John Vervaeke and Paul VanderKlay come together for a dialogue on neoplatonism, evolution, and Christianity. This is my third dialogue with John Vervaeke and the first appearance of Paul on my channel.   

We mention Adam Friended, David Sloan Wilson, Bret Weinstein, Thomas Aquinas, the Apostle Paul, Jacob Faturechi, Origen of Alexandria, Plotinus, Philo of Alexandria, John Scotus Eriugena, Proclus, Maximus the Confessor, Porphyry,  Noam Chomsky, Northrop Frye, CS Lewis, Iamblichus, Gregory Shaw, Pseudo-Dionysius, Jonathan Pageau, Numenius, Alvin Platinga, Daniel Dennett, Donald Hoffman, Joscha Bach, Paul Anleitner (aka Deep Talks ), Sevilla King (aka A Quality Existence ), Cornelius Platinga, David Bentley Hart, sigmund freud, Karl Marx, Friedrich Nietzsche, Hagel, Maurice Merleau-Ponty, DC Schlinder, Von Balthasar, and more.

Fr. John Strickland is an Orthodox Priest, Podcast host, and author. We discuss the history of Christianity as viewed from an Eastern Orthodox Perspective. We focus on themes of Paradise and Utopia and how that can help us understand our contemporary culture and context. We mention Ignatius of Antioch, Augustine of Hippo, Basil the Great, Constantine, Athanasius, Charlemagne, Pope Leo the Third, Dante, Ivan the Terrible, Martin Luther, John Calvin, Ulrich Zwingli, Thomas Aquinas, Brett Salkheld, Jonathan Edwards, William Ellery Channing, and more. 

Fr John Strickland's website: https://johnstrickland.org/

Paradise and Utopia Podcast: https://www.ancientfaith.com/podcasts/paradiseutopia

The Age of Paradise: https://www.amazon.com/Age-Paradise-Christendom-Pentecost-Millennium-ebook/dp/B07W89XLNC

The Age of Division: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B08N2KZ138?ref_=dbs_p_pwh_rwt_anx_cl_1&storeType=ebooks

The Age of Utopia: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B09MDQ8M5Q?ref_=dbs_p_pwh_rwt_anx_cl_1&storeType=ebooks

Sam and Hank continue the church fathers dialogue series with our third episode on Origen of Alexandria. We  look at his book "Against Celsus". We particularly focus on the topics of Celsus's attacks on Christianity,  the relationship between Judaism and Christianity, the relationship between Paganism and Christianity, and more insights into Origen's theology. We mention Tertullian, Justin Martyr, Augustine, Martin Luther, Jordan Peterson, Edmund Husserl, C.S. Lewis, and more.  

Jacob on Supercessionism: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9LYXd050knU  

Sam and Hank's First Convo on Origen: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N1awPZQ4VXQ 

Sam and Hank's Second Convo on Origen: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R4JnmsLQ4hA&t=936s

Jeff Deuble is the author of "Christ Before Creeds: Rediscovering the Jesus of history": 

https://www.amazon.com/Christ-Before-Creeds-Rediscovering-History/dp/173691801X  

We talk about Jeff's journey from being a pastor in a trinitarian denomination to changing his mind by becoming non-trinitarian, we talk about his motivations for writing his book, and how non-trinitarians should interact in a trinitarian Christian world.

Sam and Hank continue the church fathers dialogue series with our second episode on Origen of Alexandria. We continue looking at his book "On First Principles". We particularly focus on the topics of his cosmology and the interpretation of Scripture. We mention Renes Descartes, Apostle Paul, Augustine, Ambrose, Jerome, John Vervaeke, Paul Vanderklay, Tim Mackie, Michael Heiser, Jonathan Pageau, Fr Stephen DeYoung, Fr Andrew Damick, and more.   

Four Horsemen Conversation with Jordan Peterson, John Vervaeke, Bishop Barron, and Jonathan Pageau: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FCvQsqSCWjA&t=892s 

Tim Mackie on Remnant Radio: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JMh05mYBD_A

John Vervaeke is a Professor of Cognitive Science and Psychology at the University of Toronto. He has an excellent youtube channel and I would particularly recommend his series "Awakening from the Meaning Crisis".  

Awakening from the Meaning Crisis: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=54l8_...  J

ohn Vervaeke, Paul Vanderklay, JP Marceau on Teleology: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hXgDelZcebo&t=95s 

The main topic of this conversation is whether the whole of existence has a purpose, or whether purpose is only realized at local levels. We mention Plato, Paul Vanderklay, JP Marceau, Pope Francis, Paul Anleitner, Spinoza, the fine tuning argument, Aristotle.

Sam and Hank continue the church fathers dialogue series by beginning to discuss Origen of Alexandria. We give a biographical background for Origen and the context and translation history of "On First Principles". We particularly focus on the topics of the Trinity and the Incarnation. We mention Father John Behr, Henri De Lubac, Athanasius of Alexandria, Arius of Alexandria, Augustine of Hippo, Justin Martyr, John Vervaeke, Plato, Plotinus, Ammonius Saccas, Porphyry, Rufinus, Johns Dun Scouts, Pope Benedict, Gregory of Nyssa, Gregory Nazianzus, Basil the Great, Erasmus, Hans Urs von Balthasar, Anselm of Cantebury, David Bentley Hart, Dale Tugyy.

Dr. Joshua Sijuwade is a Visiting Lecturer at the London School of Theology and has a PhD from the University of York in the Philosophy of Religion. Josh has taken inspiration from Beau Branson's Monarchical Trinitarianism and articulated it in a way that includes developments in contemporary analytic metaphysics and also putting on a catholic twist. We mention Dale Tuggy, Beau Branson, Richard Swinburn, Fr John Behr, David Lewis, Larry Hurtado, Jonathan Schaffer, Bishop Barron and more.   

Dr Joshua Sijuwade's academia page: https://lst.academia.edu/JoshuaSijuwade

Dr Shabir Ally is the President of the Islamic Information & Dawah Centre International in Toronto, the host of "Let the Quran Speak", and a well known Islamic Apologist. He has had many debates with Trinitarian Christians on the topic of the Trinity and is extremely well informed and articulate on the topic. Instead of a debate we have a cordial dialogue on the topic of Jesus in Unitarian Christian and Islam and what similarities and differences we have. We mention Bart Ehrman, Richard Bauckham, Rich Matt Slick, William Ellery Channing, Geoffrey Parrinder, Khalil Andani, Kenneth Cragg and many others.

Dr. Ally's youtube channel: https://www.youtube.com/c/QuranSpeaks

Austin Suggs is the host of the wonderful youtube channel "Gospel Simplicity". We talked about his faith journey, the story of how he made his youtube channel, the curiosity of many evangelicals in older Christian traditions, and the future evangelicalism. Austin is a wonderful guy and I hope you will enjoy this interview and go and check out his channel.  

Gospel Simplicity: https://www.youtube.com/c/GospelSimplicity

Paul Anleitner is the host of the podcast "Deep Talks: Exploring Theology & Meaning Making". Paul is also a pastor at a church in Minnesota. Paul and I met through the Paul Vanderklay community. He is a very interesting guy with wide ranging interests. Today we talk about how the work of John Vervaeke has impacted him.

Paul's youtube channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC2yCyOMUeem-cYwliC-tLJg/videos

Paul's podcast: https://deeptalkstheologypodcast.podbean.com/

Paul, John, and I talk about prophecy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rZSPFxUp9CA

Jake Brancatella, aka the Muslim Metaphysician, is the host of his own youtube channel and is a cohost on Thought Adventure channel. He recently had a debate on The Trinity vs Tawhid with Dr James White from "The Firing Line". In this conservation Jake and I discuss that debate, go into further detail on some of the arguments, and try to further elucidate with Dr. James White might actually believe about the trinity.   

Jake's Debate with James White: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xh13mb4Hz1E&t=1550s  

Thought Adventure Channel: https://www.youtube.com/c/ThoughtAdventurePodcast  

The Muslim Metaphysician Channel: https://www.youtube.com/c/TheMuslimMetaphysician  

We also mention Dr Dale Tuggy, Dr Beau Branson, Chris Date, Dr Richard Swinburn, Dr William Lane Craig, Dr Jousha Sijuwade, Dr Ryan Mullins, Herman Alexander Roell, BB Warfield, and many others.

In this episode of Hank and Sam's continuing dialogues on the Church Fathers we discuss Athenagoras. We don't know much about Athenagoras but we have 1 maybe 2 of his letters. His most important work is "A Plea for the Christians" written around 165AD to the emperor Marcus Aurelius for the purpose of convincing the Emperor to end the persecution of Christians. Athenagoras was a well trained philosopher and was probably the smartest and more articulate of the church fathers of the second century and we hope to bring more attention to his importance with this episode.  

A Plea for the Christians: https://www.newadvent.org/fathers/0205.htm

Dr. David Capes is the Senior Research Fellow at the Lanier Theological Library in Houston, TX and distinguished New Testament Scholar. He is an expert on the Apostle Paul and New Testament study. His specific area of interest is how the Apostle Paul uses the Old Testament in the New Testament. In particular he focuses on how Paul will use OT passages about God and reapply them to be about Jesus in the NT and what the Christological implications of the hermeneutics are. He has written a book on the subject titled The Divine Christ. We delve into these topics these topics and more. We mention Larry Hurtado, Richard Bauckham, NT Wright, Bart Erhman, and more. Hope you enjoy!

The Divine Christ by David Capes: https://www.amazon.com/Divine-Christ-Scriptures-Studies-Theology/dp/080109786X

David Capes Hayward Lectures: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JqFOiBA36To

Beau Branson, Isaiah Burridge, and I have a wide ranging discussion focused around the questions of "what is worship?", "who should be worshiped?", and "Is Jesus worshiped?". Beau Branson is an Assistant Professor of Philosophy at Brescia University. Beau represents an Eastern Orthodox on these questions. Isaiah Burridge is the host of the "Depends on how you look at it" podcast. Isaiah represents a Reformed Baptist take on these questions and I represent the Biblical Unitarian perspective.   

Beau's Website: https://beaubranson.com/ 

Isaiah's Podcast: https://dependsonyou.buzzsprout.com/

Brandon Duke is on the board of the Unitarian Christian Alliance. He comes on to share his story and to plug the upcoming UCA Conference. We also talk about the nature and purpose of the UCA. We talk about the benefits of Unitarian Christian theology and what we see coming for the future and what we hope will happen.   

UCA Conference Link: https://www.unitarianchristianalliance.org/conference/ 

UCA Main Page: https://www.unitarianchristianalliance.org/ 

UCA Youtube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCfyDHfpZISrgXnQ1fMt-5Hg

This is our second video on Tertullian and the latest video in our Church Fathers dialogue series between Sam and Hank. In this episode we focus on other aspects of Tertullian's theology. We discuss his sexual ethics, political ethics, his views on baptism, eschatology and much more.

Parker Settecase returns to Transfigured for a discussion on his recent paper about Jordan Peterson's philosophy and theology and how he has problems raised by the Evolutionary Argument Against Naturalism (EAAN) first posed by Alvin Plantinga and developed by Thomas Crisp. We also mention Sam Harris, Daniel Dennett, Bret Weinstein, Rene Descartes, Blaise Pascal, Kevin Vanhoozer, CS Lewis, Soren Kierkegaard, John Walton, Alfred Balfour, Jonathan Haidt, Jonathan Pageau, John Vervaeke, Aristotle, Plato, Stoicism, Epicureanism and more.  

Parker's Channel is called Parker's Pensees

Byrne Power is the host of the Anadromist youtube channel. We met through Paul Vanderklay. Byrne and I talk about the Jesus Movement, Jesus People, the history of the '60s and '70s and how that has shaped America and Christianity. Byrne is one of the most interesting people in the world and I hope you enjoy our conversation.  

The Anadromist Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCIAt...

The Anadromist Blog: https://theanadromist.wordpress.com/

This conversation continues our series of dialogues with Sam and Hank on the church fathers. This episode we talk about Tertullian of Carthage. We cover Tertullian's background, the history and relevance of the montanist movement, and Tertullian's views on trinitarian theology. We will likely have at least one more episode covering other areas of Tertullian's theology. Hope you enjoy.   Prophets and Gravestones by William Tabbernee: https://www.amazon.com/Prophets-Gravestones-Imaginative-Montanists-Christians/dp/0801047811

This is the third episode in Sam and Hank's series of dialogues on the Church Fathers. In this episode we discuss the 3 Apostolic Fathers: Clement of Rome, Ignatius of Antioch, and Polycarp of Smyrna. Sam is a Biblical Unitarian and Hank is a recent convert from evangelicalism to Roman Catholicism. We bring our different perspectives and background to this discussion to talk about the life, theology, importance and relevance of these three revered early church figures.

Isaiah's podcast, Depends on How You Look at It: https://dependsonyou.buzzsprout.com/ 

Isaiah shares his amazing story of health, healing, miracles, and God's providence. He also talks about his theological exploration and development. We cover many subjects from eschatology, to dispensationalism, covenantalism, infant baptism, the eucharist, premillenialism, and soteriology.

Sean Finnegan is a pastor, podcaster, and scholar who has a very similar background to me. We talk about what it is like to grow up "in the shadow of the Way International" and make sense of it's mixed inheritance. Some of the names mentioned are E.W. Bullinger, B.J. Leonard, Anthony Buzzard, Vince Finnegan, and Victor Gluckin.  

You can find Sean's podcast, "Restitutio" here: https://restitutio.org/

You can find Sean's interview of me here: https://restitutio.org/2020/11/27/367-excommunicated-for-my-beliefs-sam/

This is the second episode of our monthly series where Sam and Hank discuss the church fathers. This episode is about Irenaeus of Lyon. He was the Bishop of Lyon in southern France but he had grown up in Smyrna. We discuss his biography, his importance in church history, his writings, his views on gnosticism, his Christology, and other facets of his theology. We also draw parallels and applications of his life and message for Christians today. We also mention Paul Vanderklay, Jonathan Pageau, John Vervaeke, Jordan Peterson, Bishop Barron, James Lindsay, Polycarp, Valentinus, Ignatius of Antioch, John Calvin, Martin Luther, and many more. I hope you enjoy and learn from our discussion. 

Parker is a theology student at Trinity Evangelical Divinity School. He is the host of "Parker's Pensees" youtube channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCYbT...​ 

I ask him about his theological background. We talk about the importance of the doctrine of the trinity to salvation, how a church defines itself and he shares with me his argument for the Trinity based on our knowledge of concepts. We also discuss William Hasker, Paul Vanderklay, Jordan Peterson, Fred Sanders, Paul Gould, Chad McIntosh, Steven Nemish, John Vervaeke, Thomas Aquinas, Augustine and more.

JP Marceau comes back for his second appearance on my channel. This conversation was spurred on by the recent conversation between Paul Vanderklay, John Vervaeke and JP regarding miracles and the logos. JP and I talk about that topic other how we can understand immanence, emergence, the logos together with a focus on Christ. We mention Thomas Aquinas, Augustine, Keiji Nishitani, Plotinus, Bishop Barron, Jordan Peterson, CS Lewis, John Scotus Eriugena and more.   

You will benefit most from watching this recent conversation: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XGoil4zuQPc&t=84s 

This is the first conversation between Vervaeke, Vanderklay, and Marceau: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GCeHJtdQ0fg&t=0s 

Check out JP's channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCZzlvx0HHYiPOJTEOU399WA

Jonathan Stewart is a Deacon in The Apostolic Johannite Church in Montreal. The Apostolic Johannite Church is a modern day church in the gnostic and esoteric christian tradition. Jonathan also is the host of "Talk Gnosis" on the Gnostic Wisdom Network youtube channel.   We talk about the history and emergence of Christian Gnostic. It's connections to the orthodox Christian tradition, it's beliefs and teachings, it's various historical manifestations and the state of Christian Gnosticism today. We mention Khalil Andani, Manichaeism, Valentinus, Marcion, The Apostle Paul, Paul Magnus, Philo of Alexandria, Irenaeus of Lyon, Justin Martyr, Paul the Apostle, John the Apostle, John the Baptist, Hermeticism, The Nag Hammadi Library, The Cathars, Meister Eckhart, Theosophy, Carl Jung, and more.   

Gnostic Wisdom Network youtube channel: https://www.youtube.com/user/GnosticNYC 

The Apostolic Johannite Church: https://www.johannite.org/

Dr. Chad McIntosh has a PhD in Philosophy from Cornell University. He has developed a model of social trinitarianism complimented by a deeper understanding of group personhood. I feel like his model is one of the best and most compelling articulations of social trinitarianism that many people could learn from.  He also challenges me with arguments against Biblical Unitarianism. We mention Dale Tuggy, William Lane Craig, Augustine, Larry Hurtado, and more.

Luke Thompson comes on my channel for his fourth appearance. We talk about how we agree and disagree on the trinity. We talk about Beau Branson, John Piper, Owen Barfield, Nathan Ormand, Neoplatonism, John Vervaeke, Paul Vanderklay, Jonathan Pageau, Richard Rohr, Jordan Peterson, Nathan Jacobs, Douglas Harding, CS Lewis, JRR Tolkein, Ross Douthat, Charles Taylor, Alisa Childers, Jacob Faturechi, John Behr, Stephen Freeman, Byrne Powers, Bishop Barron, and Preston Sprinkle.

Jacob Faturechi is an orthodox Jew with very interesting and unique perspectives on Jesus and the relationship between Judaism and Christianity. Jacob has a youtube channel where he teaches Hebrew interpretation of the Bible: https://www.youtube.com/user/faturechi/videos?view=0&sort=p&flow=grid 

Jacob and I have spent a lot of time conversing about these topic on Paul Vanderklay's discord server. This is our first recorded conversation. We talk about the Messiah ben Joseph, the Gospel of John, Monotheism, the Angel of the Lord, and many other topics.

Hank and Sam are starting a series of dialogues discussing the Early Church Fathers. The first Church Father that we are discussing in Justin Martyr. We talking about his life, his writings, his beliefs, church community, his faults, and what he means for Christians today. Hank Kruse is coming at this as a recent convert to Catholicism from Protestantism and Sam is coming at this from the perspective of a Biblical Unitarian. We also mention Plato, Socrates, the Stoics, Pythagoras, Gnosticism, the Apostle Paul, Paul Vanderklay, Jordan Peterson, Sam Harris, Jonathan Pageau, Brett Salkeld, Ulrich Zwingli, Thomas Aquinas, Augustine, Martin Luther, John Calvin, Jacob Faturechi, Irenaeus of Lyon, Arius, Luke Thompson, and more.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eid7JpqItM4

John Vervaeke is a Professor of Cognitive Science and Psychology at the University of Toronto. He has an excellent youtube channel and I would particularly recommend his series "Awakening from the Meaning Crisis".  

Awakening from the Meaning Crisis: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=54l8_ewcOlY&list=PLND1JCRq8Vuh3f0P5qjrSdb5eC1ZfZwWJ 

In this conversation we talk about what Neoplatonism was, how it interacted with Christianity, and how it is relevant today. We mention Plato, Aristotle, Socrates, Carl Jung, Pierre Hadot, Plotinus, Hypatia, D. T. Suzuki, John H Spencer, The Stoics, Porphyry, Iamblichus, Proclus, Sir Roger Penrose, William Lane Craig, Alfred North Whitehead, Owen Gilbert, Keith Stanovich, Jules Evans, Polar Bears, Bret Weinstein, Richard Dawkins, Sam Harris, Daniel Dennett, Evan Thompson, Christopher Mastropietro, Pseudo Dionysius, John Scotus Eriugena, Heraclitus, Jonathan Pageau, Augustine, and Paul Vanderklay.

Here is the introduction video that should be watched first: https://youtu.be/azSNgWEv6R0 

Rivers o Feden is a self taught bible student who is very good at Greek. He has a very interesting interpretation of the prologue of gospel of John. In this conversation we do a in depth examination of his interpretation of the prologue and how that fits into the larger picture of the gospel. Rivers' interpretation is compatible with a Biblical Unitarian understanding of Jesus but it is different than the way most Unitarians have interpreted the prologue in recent times. In this episode I dig deeper with Rivers and we go through the prologue verse by verse.

Rivers o Feden is a self taught bible student who is very good at Greek. He has a very interesting interpretation of the prologue of gospel of John. In this conversation we do a high level overview of his interpretation of the prologue and how that fits into the larger picture of the gospel. Rivers' interpretation is compatible with a Biblical Unitarian understanding of Jesus but it is different than the way most Unitarians have interpreted the prologue in recent times. If you enjoy this episode and want to dig in deeper Rivers and I recorded over 3 hours of content and I will be posting the full video at a later date.

Jake Brancatella is the host of The Muslim Metaphysician channel on youtube. Jake has an interesting story, he grew up catholic but later converted to Islam, partially over objections to the doctrine of the trinity. He has studied philosophy and knows a lot about different Christian doctrines of the trinity. We discuss his current Islamic views of Jesus and the other prophets, we discuss the different trinity models in Christianity and what we perceive as their shortcomings, and then we discuss Unitarian Christian views of Jesus. Specifically mentioned are Dr. Khalil Andani and Dr. Beau Branson, both previous guests on the channel. I hope you will enjoy!  

Jake's youtube channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCcGQRfTPNyHlXMqckvz2uqQ 

Jake's twitter: https://twitter.com/MMetaphysician

Dr. Dustin Smith is the host of the Biblical Unitarian Podcast. He is also an expert on the Book of Revelation also known as the Apocalypse of John. While most of the time people associate Revelation with eschatology, in this video we focus on what we can learn about Christology. We mostly set eschatology aside and cover Dustin's own personal story, his interest in the book, the background of the book, and then what we can learn about God, Jesus, and even the Holy Spirit. I really enjoyed talking with Dustin and I hope you will enjoy it too.  

You can find "The Biblical Unitarian" podcast where ever you get your podcasts but here is a link:https://biblicalunitarianpodcast.podbean.com/

 Dustin has also appeared on youtube before and here is a selection of some of my favorite videos of his.

Jewish Preexistence in John: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZE4Ihjv0Wc

Philippians 2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ltCl-MSumQM

Dr. Richard Rubenstein is a Professor of Conflict Resolution and Public Affairs at George Mason University. He is the author of the excellent book "When Jesus Became God" about the Arian Controversy. In this conversation we cover both the details and higher level themes of the Arian controversy. We talk about Arius of Alexandria, Athanasius of Alexandria, the Emperors Constantine, Diocletian, Julius Caesar, Augustus, Constantius, Constans, Valens, and Theodosius, the Cappadocian Fathers Basil the Great, Gregory of Nazianzus, and Gregory of Nyssa. Augustine of Hippo, Eusebius of Caesarea, Thomas Aquinas, Peter Abelard, and others. We also talk about how the Arian Controversy relates to our time. We also briefly hint at his next project which is a novel based on Paul the Apostle's time on Malta.   

When Jesus Became God: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/253881.When_Jesus_Became_God

Dr. Madison Pierce is an Assistant Professor of New Testament at Trinity Evangelical Divinity School. She is an expert on the Letter to the Hebrews. We talk about the background of the letter, the theology of creation, the role of Jesus in creation, prosopological exegesis, soteriology, and of course, Melchizedek. Hope you enjoy!  

You can find her book on Divine Discourse in the Epistle to the Hebrews here: https://www.amazon.com/Divine-Discourse-Epistle-Hebrews-Recontextualization/dp/1108495419  

You can follow her on twitter here: https://twitter.com/MadisonPierce?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor  

You can find the Foreward Podcast which she co-hosts here: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCMTXOvLqW5YGn44VKNR3QqQ  

You can find her appearance on the Preston Sprinkle's podcast: https://www.prestonsprinkle.com/theology-in-the-raw/700-madison-pierce

Dr. Lydia McGrew is an analytic philosopher who focuses on the reliability of testimony particularly as that applies to the gospels. She has written a book titled "The Mirror and the Mask: Liberating the Gospels from Literary Devices". We talk about the difference between a literary device model supported by Dr. Michael Licona and the historical reportage model supported by Dr. McGrew. As a statistician I enjoyed getting to talk with Dr. McGrew about probability theory and how we can apply that to our understanding of the gospels. We discuss implications for these different understandings of the gospels for apologetics, for faith, and for understanding Christology. We also spend a good amount of time discussing the christology in the gospel of John. This was a very fun discussion and I hope you will enjoy!  

Dr. Lydia McGrew's books. The Mirror and the Mask: https://www.amazon.com/Mirror-Mask-Liberating-Gospels-Literary/dp/1947929070 Hidden in Plain View: https://www.amazon.com/Hidden-Plain-View-Undesigned-Coincidences/dp/1936341905/ref=pd_lpo_14_t_0/140-4227063-2261906?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=1936341905&pd_rd_r=08c57267-9efb-4c6f-ba03-6dd3a3539dc6&pd_rd_w=V5viJ&pd_rd_wg=Fg3MK&pf_rd_p=7b36d496-f366-4631-94d3-61b87b52511b&pf_rd_r=3DH3B150Q7G720QF7B4X&psc=1&refRID=3DH3B150Q7G720QF7B4X  

Dr. Lydia McGrew's youtube channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCSwhBk0vUSg_6prKkR82IDQ  Mirror and the Mask youtube playlist: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLe1tMOs8ARn0S9CsFG47bKjcYxsnHujhg  Dr Michael Licona's response youtube playlist: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLe1tMOs8ARn0Xw5fVp1NhKTnu21-wZcge

Dr. James Arcadi is an Assistant Professor of Biblical and Systematic Theology at Trinity Evangelical Divinity School. He has written a book about his Incarnational Model of the Eucharist which you can find here: https://www.amazon.com/Incarnational-Eucharist-Current-Issues-Theology/dp/1108425895  

He is also a cohost of the Foreword Podcast from the faculty of TEDS which you can find here: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCMTXOvLqW5YGn44VKNR3QqQ  

We discuss the details of his book and his proposal for an Incarnational Model of the Eucharist. We mention Martin Luther, John Calvin, Brett Salkeld, Fred Sanders, Ulrich Zwingli, Thomas Aquinas, Richard Cross, Thomas Cranmer, Berengar of Tours, John Wycliffe, Jan Hus, Athanasius, Cyril of Alexandria, Skylar McManus, and many others.

Sr Anthony Buzzard is one of the living leaders of Biblical Unitarianism. He has written many books and appeared in many debates and discussions. We talk about his upbringing and his theological journey.   

You can find his ministry here: https://focusonthekingdom.org/ Here are some of his books: https://www.amazon.com/Doctrine-Trinity-Christianitys-Self-Inflicted-Wound/dp/1573093092/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=anthony+buzzard&qid=1597942498&sr=8-1 https://www.amazon.com/Jesus-Was-Trinitarian-Anthony-Buzzard/dp/0967324971/ref=sr_1_2?dchild=1&keywords=anthony+buzzard&qid=1597942498&sr=8-2  

You can also watch his famous debate with James White here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4joi2P9lupw

Dr. Jo-Ann Brant is the author of a wonderful commentary on the Gospel of John: https://www.amazon.com/John-Paideia-Commentaries-New-Testament/dp/080103454X  

She has also written a book "Dialogue and Drama" about connections between Greek Drama and the style of the Gospel of John: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1565639073/ref=dbs_a_def_rwt_bibl_vppi_i1  

I heard about her from her appearance on Dale Tuggy's trinities podcast: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iVnOdseOXOY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ivbzGFC6DV0  

We talk about the Gospel of John, what makes it unique and just what exactly is it trying to teach us about Jesus.

Eric Seitz will be ordained as a Priest in the Catholic Church in just over a week. This will probably be the last recording of him as a Deacon.   

Eric and I had a 3 way conversation with Jacob that you can find here. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Llk3r3T63uE  

The letter wiki conversation I am having with Tripp and Eric you can find here: https://letter.wiki/conversation/679  

We discuss the Philosophy of Thomas Aquinas and Augustine, how that relates to the doctrine of divine simplicity, and whether or not that is compatible with the trinity.

Beau Branson and Skylar McManus and I have a joint discussion about the definitions and borders between Unitarianism and Trinitarianism. We talk a lot about church history mentioning Justin Martyr, Ignatius of Antioch, Irenaeus of Lyon, Paul of Samosata, Origen, Arius, Athanasius, Constantine, Basil of Caesarea, Gregory of Nyssa, Gregory Nazianzus, Eusebius of Caesaria, Photinus, Augustine, Maximus the Confessor, Photius, Thomas Aquinas, Martin Luther, Michael Servetus, Socinus, John Calvin and more.  

We also discuss contemporary theologians such as William Lane Craig, Dale Tuggy, Karl Rahner, Sir Anthony Buzzard, Chris Date, DC Williams, BB Warfield, William Hasker, Kallistos Ware, and others.  

Here are my previous two videos with Beau Branson. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R_tuLfkp4_Y&t=7137s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BDxccZwy54E&t=5757s  

My previous conversation with Skylar McManus. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FI6wSGFGnZY&t=5s  

Here is Beau's Presentation on the Monarchy of the Father. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VfBoOZ7dzLY&t=1s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2lc-vqRutOU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1KRf4kCB8vk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3htRB-WjQsc  

Here is Dale's Response to Beau's Presentation. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UzyUDQmewdo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=78T7Ns2RMxo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uJ1nPIRG4rw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IMN9cBfWQAA  

Here is Beau and Skylar's joint response. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sqFFYzbOePs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MViP3yN48FQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znGwYzY0vC0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FbesYL9d_o0

Charlie has his own channel called Thought Journey that you can find here: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCL-Hga0OoEHlzSJgRNmr7Aw  

Charlie was raised Southern Baptist with a brief stint in Oneness Pentecostalism. He has an MDiv from Dallas Theological Seminary. He preaches at his church in Arkansas. We try and see if we can agree on who Jesus is and how he relates to God. It sounds like we get pretty close. We specifically look at Matthew 24 and Revelation 4&5 as part of our conversation. We mention Paul Vanderklay and Luke Thompson and Jacob Faturechi whose channel you can find here: https://www.youtube.com/user/faturechi/videos

Skylar McManus is training in analytic theology and philosophy. You can find his blog where he discusses theology and the trinity here: https://skylarmcmanus.com/  

Skylar discusses his interesting background of growing up Oneness Pentecostal, diving into apologetics and philosophy, and moving towards Eastern Orthodoxy while exploring the full landscape of Christology along the way. We discuss David Bernard, William Lane Craig, Dale Tuggy, Thomas Morris, Tripp Parker, Edward Feser, Augustine, Thomas Aquinas, Ireneaus, Sabellius, Justin Martyr, James Arcadi, Brett Salkeld, Beau Branson, and more.

Chris Date recently published a book with Dale Tuggy that you can find here: https://www.amazon.com/Jesus-Human-Not-Divine-Essential-ebook/dp/B087X7VWKJ/?fbclid=IwAR3LHQv3J2xTvhXd3NPhFNeRPplEdbngdGWXunHGpBKbRV_5QvBjXSLou3Y  

Chris Date and I also had a first conversation on Preston Sprinkle's 'Theology in the Raw podcast': https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0a7tsC_6T80&t=2s  

Chris Date and Dale Tuggy recorded a live debate here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c35_uFjEbx8&t=1s  

Chris Date and I discuss the Trinity and the Incarnation. We also mention William Lane Craig, Dale Tuggy, Beau Branson, Augustine, Thomas Aquinas, John Calvin, Irenaeus of Lyon, Clement of Alexandria, and more.

Shari lives on a self-sustaining farm in British Columbia. You can see her tell her story with Paul Vanderklay here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NYDJjVbG3mk  

We talk about a journey into the church fathers and seeing theology through their lenses. We talk about Origen of Alexandria, Athanasius, Gregory of Nyssa, Maximus the Confessor. We also talk about modern day influences like Jordan Peterson, Paul Vanderklay, Herbert McCabe, Fr John Behr, David Bentley Hart, Beau Branson, Bret Salkheld, George McDonald, CS Lewis, and JRR Tolkein. Hope you enjoy.

Kegan Chandler has a Masters in Theology and is an amazing self-taught scholar, historian, theologian and fellow Biblical Unitarian. He has written a new book about the Theological beliefs and motivations of Constantine the Great. We talked about his conversation, Pagan Monotheism, Sol Invictus, Lucius Lactantius, Hermeticism, Neoplatonism, Augustine of Hippo, Eusebius (both of them), the Council of Nicea, Athanasius, Arian of Alexandria and more.   

The Book: https://books.google.com/books/about/Constantine_and_the_Divine_Mind.html?id=c8XLDwAAQBAJ&source=kp_book_description  

Kegan on "Homoousios": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UEvZjJr4dUU 

Kegan on Hermeticism and the Gospel of John: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M7auX3o9Z20

JP Marceau is a friend I met through the Paul Vanderklay community. He has a background in philosophy with interests in the patristic period of the church fathers, neoplatonism, and Thomism. He combines these old ideas with new philosophical schools of thought like panpsychism and process theology.   

We have an interesting discussion covering many people like John Vervaeke, Jonathan Pageau, Mary Kochan, Bertrand Russell, Henry Bergson, Thomas Aquinas, St Maximus the Confessor, John Scotus Eriugena, Plotinus, Beau Branson, Augustine, Khalil Andani, the Cappacodcian Fathers, Irenaeus of Lyon, Godel's incompleteness theorem, and much more.  

Here is JP's youtube channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCZzlvx0HHYiPOJTEOU399WA  

Here is JP's talk with Paul Vanderklay: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M6QmOWI2Ysw  And my favorite talk between JP, Mary, and John: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=baQQQwPAcMY

This is a casual 4-way conversation between friends. None of us are professional theologians but we are all very interested in the topics of Unitarians vs Trinitarianism and Universalism vs Annihilationism vs Eternal Conscious Torment.   

Jeff has a background in various forms of conservative evangelicalism growing up in Texas. He also is a CS Lewis and George McDonald quote encyclopedia. You can learn more about his story here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JoAHv6_LG_w  

Luke has been on the channel before. He grew up in the young, restless, and reformed circles but is now on the path to Eastern Orthodoxy. You can learn more about his story here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DSiCZLHkZXA  

Charlie is from Arkansas and grew up Southern Baptist being really involved with his church. He had a period of atheism and is now getting back into religion. He has his one youtube channel which you can find here: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCL-Hga0OoEHlzSJgRNmr7Aw

Dr. Khalil Andani is an Assistant Professor of Religion at Augustana College and a recent PhD graduate from Harvard University. Dr. Andani is a member of the Nizari branch of Ismaili Shi'i Islam. He invited me to have a dialogue with him about my views on Jesus as a Biblical Unitarian Christian for his class "Global Christians: Christian-Muslim Encounters". As far as either of us are aware our particular traditions have never had such a dialogue publicly before and we find a lot we can agree on and understand about each other.  The central topic is who is Jesus? What is Jesus's connection to God? Can Jesus be worshiped? How do we talk about our worship or veneration of Jesus?   Some people mentioned are Photinus of Ancyra, Plotinus, Arius, Athanasius of Alexandria, Thomas Aquinas, Averroes, Avicenna, Aga Khan, Alvin Platinga, Kegan Chandler, John Locke, Isaac Newton, Augustine, and many others. Hope you enjoy.

Brett Salkeld is a Catholic Theologian and author of a new book on Transubstantiation. He explores the often misunderstood Thomistic doctrine of transubstantiation and how that relates to the eucharistic theologies of Martin Luther and John Calvin. His bold proposals suggest that a better understanding of Thomas Aquinas can actually help lead to greater unity between Catholics and Protestants, and even within Protestants, on this often contentious issue. We all talk about the sacramental nature of reality, Paul Vanderklay, Jonathan Pageau, Athanasius, the history of Unitarianism, adoptionism, and much more.

Link to Brett's book: https://www.amazon.com/Transubstantiation-Theology-History-Christian-Unity/dp/1540960552

Luke, Julian, and Sam do a debrief on the recent debate between Chris Date and Sam and Preston Sprinkle's "Theology in the Raw" podcast. Various people mentioned are Larry Hurtado, Jonathan Pageau, Alan Kreider's "The Patient Ferment of the Early Church", Jordan Peterson and his rules for good conversation, Paul Vanderklay as always, Jonathan Haidt, and Beau Branson. We discussion Biblical Unitarianism, Eastern Orthodoxy, The Jewish context of the emergence of Christianity, Monarchical Trinitarianism, and just exactly what is means for Jesus to be divine.  

Link to the debate video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0a7tsC_6T80&t=1284s  

Link to the podcast: https://www.prestonsprinkle.com/theology-in-the-raw/2020/3/16/783-trinitarianism-versus-unitarianism-a-conversation-with-chris-date-and-sam-adams

In this conversation we discuss linguistic confusions relating to Christology, is God eternally and necessarily a Father, Dale Tuggy and his definition of Unitarianism, Chris Date and standard American Evangelical Trinitarianism, the specifics of the Arian Controversy, is the God of the Old Testament the Father or the Son, can God be seen, Two Powers in Heaven by Alan Segal, Richard Bauckham, Justin Martyr and the Dialogue with Trypho, Philo of Alexandria, Josephus, Preston Sprinkle, Hegel, NT Wright, Michael Heiser, William Lane Craig, Neoplatonism, Origen of Alexandria, Plotinus, Is there Platonism in the book of Hebrews, did Apollos write the book of Hebrews, and finally we read the prologue of John 1, Maximus the Confessor and the 3 thickenings of the logos.  Link to our first conversation: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R_tuLfkp4_Y&t=5520s

Luke returns for a second conversation. This time Sam and Luke discuss Philippians 2, The Christ Hymn. Sam presents a Biblical Unitarian interpretation of the passage and Luke gives his feedback from an Eastern Orthodox Monarchical Trinitarian perspective. This video in both in response to the debate between Dale Tuggy and Christ Date and in anticipation of an upcoming debate/discussion between Sam and Chris Date. Because this is Sam and Luke they don't always stay on topic and mention Dr. Preston Sprinkle, Paul Vanderklay, Owen Barfield, Julian the Apostate, Lewis Carrol, Guy Sengstock, Jordan Peterson, Arius of Alexandria, David Bentley Hart, and Larry Hurtado.  My previous conversation with Dr. Beau Branson was mentioned multiple times: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R_tuLfkp4_Y&t=2235s  Dale Tuggy and Chris Date Debate: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c35_uFjEbx8

Tripp in an AI researcher at Amazon and a friend I met through the Paul Vanderklay online community. He is an expert on Aristotelianism, Thomistic theology, and the philosophy of mind with a masters in philosophy from Duke.   We talk about the doctrine of divine simplicity, how that relates to the doctrine of the trinity, Thomas Aquinas, Aristotle, Ray Kurzweil, Alvin Plantinga, the evolutionary argument against naturalism, David Hume, Thomas Bayes, the argument against miracles, Adam Friended, Michael Shermer, Alexander the Great, Tim McGrew, Douglas Murray, Christian Atheists, William Lane Craig, the cosmological argument, the Gospel of John, John the Baptist, and just why was Jesus crucified?  

Here is our first conversation: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hvXOZj4kQGU&t=2s  

Here is a link to Tripp, Esther and Adam Friended debating the resurrection: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V7g9ic521c8  

Tim McGrew and the argument from miracles:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GSEobV4cHnc

Julian is a friend I met in the community around Paul VanderKlay. He is a Hutterite from Canada who has recently taken upon himself to learn more about the Trinity. We discuss the connection between belief and practice, trinitarian education, the historical connections between Hutterites and Unitarians, primitivism, Schleiermacher, Fred Sanders, Michael Reeves, Karl Barth, Jordan Peterson, evangelical identity, cardinal sins, Michael Polanyi, tacit belief, the difficulties of interpretation, Bart Ehrman, proper Christian cultural engagement, Neoplatonism, Alister McGrath, the Bible Project, and just who is this Jesus? The conversation ends abruptly due to connectivity issues, but we hope to resume it again soon.

Luke is a friend that I met through the online community associated with Paul Vanderklay. We have had a couple discussions at this point. In this talk we cover Trinitarianism, Biblical Unitarianism, creeds, western civilization, different types of belief, the connection between propositions and faith, the definition of a Christian, and other related topics. People mentioned are Paul Vanderklay, Mary Kochan, Jordan Peterson, Jonathan Pageau, Beau Branson, John Vervaeke, David Bentley Hart, Guy Sengstock, and others.

Dr. Beau Branson is an Assistant Professor of Philosophy at Brescia University with a PhD from Notre Dame. Much of his research has focused on the theology of the Trinity and the Eastern Greek Church Fathers. He has engaged with Dr. Dale Tuggy to demonstrate how a proper understanding of the Patristic doctrine of the Monarchy of the Father can solve many of the philosophical problems found in other trinity theories. The conversation ranges from Christian History, Jewish mysticism, Neoplatonism, the connection between philosophy and theology, biblical exegesis, stoeriology, and the strengths and weaknesses of Biblical Unitarianism. Dr. Branson was very generous with his time to have this conversation with me. We both share the goal of helping Christians with different perspectives engage with each other to foster meaningful conversation. He shares very interesting details of his personal story and how this is related to his current philosophical perspective.

My conversation with Paul Vanderklay: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QuoqGzIu5Wc&t=1s

Hello and welcome my youtube channel and podcast,  "Transfigured".  I am Sam, your host. If you've been watching on youtube already, you heard correctly, there is now a podcast version available on all your favorite platforms. Transfigured has been a youtube channel for over a year with about 30 conversations posted as of right now. These will be trickling out on the podcast over the next few weeks in addition to the new conversations coming up.  I named this channel "Transfigured" because this channel is about seeing Jesus Christ for who he really is. When Peter, James and John saw Jesus transfigured on the mountain they saw Jesus in a deeper and truer way than they had before. This channel seeks to follow in their footsteps through good faith conversations and dialogue.   

I was raised in a "Biblical Unitarian" church which teaches that Jesus is not God himself but rather the human Son of God and that the holy spirit is God's empowering presence in us, but not a separate member of the Godhead. But I also spent time in regular Evangelical Trinitarian churches and contexts and was exposed to both sides. You can hear more of my story if you are curious in a conversation I had on Paul Vanderklay's channel. While I still hold to Biblical Unitarianism my story given me a drive to learn more about the subject from a variety of perspectives.  

I started this channel mainly for the purpose of my own curiosity and exploration so I could have a chance to talk about this subject that I personally find very interesting and learn from the feedback I receive from listeners. This channel features good faith long form discussions. While there are many debates on these topics available on the internet I felt there was a vacuum of good honest discussions. I believe that dialogue is both more interesting to listen to and also more productive at helping all sides understand each other. The trinity can certainly be a touchy subject and some people avoid talking about it for that reason, but I hope to create an honest space to explore this important subject with respect and integrity.    

On "Transfigured" I might have guests that come from all manner of theological backgrounds, both Christians and non-Christians, religious folks and non-religious folks so long as I think they have something interesting to say that I can learn from and that are willing to engage in good faith. While some of my guests are experts in their respective fields some guests don't have any official credentials. The only credential that I look for is someone with something interesting to say and a willingness to engage constructively.   

Whatever brought you here, thank you very much for listening. I produce this podcast with my own resources as a personal hobby. It is very low budget but hopefully high quality in the ways that count. I don't take any listener support partially just to keep things simple, but mostly because I'm not in it for that reason. If you would like to contribute all I ask is that you subscribe, leave constructive comments in the comments section, and share it with anyone you think might be interested. Thank you very much and God bless.