Podd: Food Safety Talk

Food Safety Talk 321: My Favorite Marsden

9 april 2025 | 91 min

Food Safety Talk 320: Fair Weather Runner

14 mars 2025 | 85 min

Food Safety Talk 319: I'm Feeling Botchy Today

27 februari 2025 | 99 min

Food Safety Talk 318: Head Grime And The Lice

22 december 2024 | 113 min

Food Safety Talk 317: Golf Cart Grocery Store

26 november 2024 | 111 min

Food Safety Talk 316: Vibing And Thriving

25 november 2024 | 106 min

Food Safety Talk 315: We're On Nicki Time Today

20 november 2024 | 81 min

Food Safety Talk 314: They Don't Let Just Anybody In

4 november 2024 | 97 min

Food Safety Talk 313: We've All Read Scallan

13 september 2024 | 115 min

Food Safety Talk 312: 37 Things Are Not Going To Happen On Thursday

10 september 2024 | 119 min

Food Safety Talk 311: Nootropics Same As The Old Tropics

30 augusti 2024 | 122 min

Food Safety Talk 310: Underground Bear Meat Economy

12 augusti 2024 | 115 min

Food Safety Talk 309: Welcome to Feet Safety Talk

31 juli 2024 | 114 min

Food Safety Talk 308: It's Not Cucumber Net

27 juni 2024 | 118 min

Food Safety Talk 307: Live From AFDO 2024 (bonus episode)

25 juni 2024 | 84 min

Food Safety Talk 306: There's A Washcloth In This Bag Of Chips!

11 juni 2024 | 82 min

Food Safety Talk 305: Walking Cud Factories

5 juni 2024 | 89 min

Food Safety Talk 304: Hit The Groove For Me

15 maj 2024 | 113 min

Food Safety Talk 303: Three Turntables And A Microphone

24 april 2024 | 67 min

Food Safety Talk 302: That's Kroc With A 'K'

19 mars 2024 | 83 min

Food Safety Talk 301: Flockhart Foyer

6 mars 2024 | min

Food Safety Talk 300: The Pat Venditte Rule

9 februari 2024 | 107 min

Food Safety Talk 299: Sweatin' To The N00bs

30 januari 2024 | 111 min

Food Safety Talk 298: Stop Dumping In My Tubes

9 januari 2024 | 111 min

Food Safety Talk 297: Bumps Bleeps Blorps

3 januari 2024 | 111 min

Food Safety Talk 296: Speaks Like An Ordinary Guy

31 december 2023 | 104 min

Food Safety Talk 295: No Spray, Jerry!

4 december 2023 | 83 min

Food Safety Talk 294: I'm On Jesse Ventura

2 november 2023 | 99 min

Food Safety Talk 293: Norwegian For Horchata

17 oktober 2023 | 106 min

Food Safety Talk 292: Does Anyone Remember Leftovers?

26 september 2023 | 104 min

Food Safety Talk 291: The Points Don't Matter

21 september 2023 | 114 min

Food Safety Talk 290: Problem With Their Smeller

5 september 2023 | 112 min

Food Safety Talk 289: PEE-hack

15 augusti 2023 | 123 min

Food Safety Talk 288: You Can Bring Your Own Shoe

4 augusti 2023 | 106 min

Food Safety Talk 287: Rotisserie Chicken Blowouts (Live From IAFP 2023)

28 juli 2023 | 59 min

Food Safety Talk 286: Duck Race at 12 Noon

12 juli 2023 | 118 min

Food Safety Talk 285: Meat Probe, Meatwad, Meathead

9 juli 2023 | 122 min

Food Safety Talk 284: Live from AFDO with guests Jessica Badour and Adam Inman

30 juni 2023 | 84 min

Food Safety Talk 283: 283 Tylenols

15 juni 2023 | 101 min

Food Safety Talk 282: The Fabulous Ms. Mertzel

2 juni 2023 | 101 min

Food Safety Talk 281: Artisanal Poultry Manure

22 maj 2023 | 117 min

Food Safety Talk 280: Drupelet

5 april 2023 | 113 min

Food Safety Talk 279: Jenny Might Be Using AI

29 mars 2023 | 83 min

Food Safety Talk 278: Seemingly Unrelated Movies

6 mars 2023 | 111 min

Food Safety Talk 277: Safe As It Ever Was

28 februari 2023 | 119 min

Food Safety Talk 276: Landlord Yelp

20 februari 2023 | 109 min

Food Safety Talk 275: We Can Pickle That!

25 januari 2023 | 122 min

Food Safety Talk 274: My Turkey Named Ham

24 december 2022 | 110 min

Food Safety Talk 273: 50 or 70 School Buses

28 november 2022 | 105 min

Food Safety Talk 272: Well Intentioned Nerds Protecting Us

24 oktober 2022 | 120 min

Food Safety Talk 271: Low Rise 7

19 oktober 2022 | 111 min

Food Safety Talk 270: Giving My Readers Botulism

9 oktober 2022 | 97 min

Food Safety Talk 269: The Daves We Don't Know

30 augusti 2022 | 107 min

Food Safety Talk 268: Add A Catchy Header

3 augusti 2022 | 141 min

Food Safety Talk 267: Tara.Freezer.Olaf

27 juli 2022 | 127 min

Food Safety Talk 266: Can The Rancid Hurt You?

11 juli 2022 | 117 min

Food Safety Talk 265: Pantheon Of Papers

1 juli 2022 | 112 min

Food Safety Talk 264: Live From AFDO

16 juni 2022 | 91 min

Food Safety Talk 263: Faraday Cage For The Voice

1 juni 2022 | 116 min

Food Safety Talk 262: Settle Down Sparky

23 maj 2022 | 84 min

Food Safety Talk 261: TEAMS Is Dog Poop

11 maj 2022 | 105 min

Food Safety Talk 260: Salad Bar Adjacent

20 april 2022 | 113 min

Food Safety Talk 259: No Bill, You Pay Us

4 april 2022 | 100 min

Food Safety Talk 258: Vegan Ponytail Extensions

25 mars 2022 | 108 min

Food Safety Talk 257: Pitmaster General

16 mars 2022 | 111 min

Food Safety Talk 256: Phage 36

2 mars 2022 | 152 min

Food Safety Talk 255: Crunchy Granola Hippie Town

13 februari 2022 | 105 min

Food Safety Talk 254: Bridge-Tunnel-Bridge-Tunnel

26 januari 2022 | 97 min

Food Safety Talk 253: The Two Michelles

14 januari 2022 | 120 min

Food Safety Talk 252: Porta Potty Moved Thrice

23 december 2021 | min

Food Safety Talk 251: Too Many Brooms

8 december 2021 | 108 min

Food Safety Talk 250: Anti-Jamming Capacity

24 november 2021 | 113 min

Food Safety Talk 249: The Disbarring Of LD Sledge

17 november 2021 | 107 min

Food Safety Talk 248: I Don't Eat The Gizzards

1 november 2021 | 111 min

Food Safety Talk 247: Two A Pluses

8 oktober 2021 | 120 min

Food Safety Talk 246: Use Clean Sticks

24 september 2021 | 126 min

Food Safety Talk 245: Peer Chicken

14 september 2021 | 109 min

Food Safety Talk 244: Renee Nameless

1 september 2021 | 129 min

Food Safety Talk 243: That's A Lot Of Showers

16 augusti 2021 | 121 min

Food Safety Talk 242: Invisible Poop Particles

5 augusti 2021 | 127 min

Food Safety Talk 241: It's The Silent Killer

17 juli 2021 | 143 min

Food Safety Talk 240: Dinner With Your Dog

7 juli 2021 | 119 min

Food Safety Talk 239: Heavy Food, Amirite?

28 juni 2021 | 110 min

Food Safety Talk 238: Throw Me A Bone

11 juni 2021 | 123 min

Food Safety Talk 237: Slappin' Da Bass

25 maj 2021 | 124 min

Food Safety Talk 236: Turning Into A Zombie

18 maj 2021 | 114 min

Food Safety Talk 235: Don Loves Maps

30 april 2021 | 125 min

Food Safety Talk 234: Dr. Zippy Dank

15 april 2021 | 121 min

Food Safety Talk 233: Small Town Bringdown

29 mars 2021 | 117 min

Food Safety Talk 232: Enderman's Dessert

12 mars 2021 | 115 min

Food Safety Talk 231: Robuts

25 februari 2021 | 144 min

Food Safety Talk 230: Dishwasher Don

8 februari 2021 | 122 min

Food Safety Talk 229: Trust in Big Cookie

26 januari 2021 | 115 min

Food Safety Talk 228: My Four Thieves

14 januari 2021 | 121 min

Food Safety Talk 227: Little Thread Of Dishwasher

30 december 2020 | 110 min

Food Safety Talk 226: So I've Got That Goin' for Me

10 december 2020 | 109 min

Food Safety Talk 225: Food Safety Talk 225: I Got a Little Holodeck

22 november 2020 | 115 min

Food Safety Talk 224: Funkengruven

11 november 2020 | 119 min

Food Safety Talk 223: That's Where ATP Gets You

29 oktober 2020 | 114 min

Food Safety Talk 222: The Original Binman

14 oktober 2020 | 117 min

Food Safety Talk 221: AB-CDC+

11 oktober 2020 | 116 min

Food Safety Talk 220: It's So Close to Testicles

29 september 2020 | 103 min

Food Safety Talk 219: How Do You Do, Fellow Kids?

12 september 2020 | 103 min

Food Safety Talk 218: Chromebooks Are Moldy

21 augusti 2020 | 120 min

Food Safety Talk 217: Fruit Forward

11 augusti 2020 | 117 min

Food Safety Talk 216: Not a Shoeborne Disease

24 juli 2020 | 110 min

Food Safety Talk 215: My Wooden Shoes

11 juli 2020 | 119 min

Food Safety Talk 214: Tick-man

28 juni 2020 | 118 min

Food Safety Talk 213: Goat Yoga Is A Little Different

13 juni 2020 | 108 min

Food Safety Talk 212: Air Bunnies

1 juni 2020 | 112 min

Food Safety Talk 211: Sounds Like Darth Vader

26 maj 2020 | 112 min

Food Safety Talk 210: Liberty-Dibbities

28 april 2020 | 114 min

* [List N: Disinfectants for Use Against SARS-CoV-2](https://www.epa.gov/pesticide-registration/list-n-disinfectants-use-against-sars-cov-2) * [Bacon jam recalled in Alberta due to Clostridium botulinum risk | barfblog](https://www.barfblog.com/2014/02/bacon-jam-recalled-in-alberta-due-to-clostridium-botulinum-risk/) * [Amazon.com : disinfectant wipes](https://www.amazon.com/s?k=disinfectant+wipes&crid=NUJ9YTQN4BEA&sprefix=disinfectant+%2Caps%2C139&ref=nb_sb_ss_i_1_13) * [Ripener 1MSDS](https://www.ripening.com/pdfs/Ripener-1-MSDS.pdf) * [Ethyl acetate - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethyl_acetate) * [Roadmap to Pandemic Resilience | Edmond J. Safra Center for Ethics](https://ethics.harvard.edu/covid-roadmap) * [How We Reopen - YouTube](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HhRQxk9QA-o&feature=share) * [Vi Hart (@vihartvihart) / Twitter](https://twitter.com/vihartvihart?lang=en) * [The big changes coming to your everyday life after Australia's coronavirus restrictions are relaxed | Daily Mail Online](https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8257387/The-big-changes-coming-everyday-life-Australias-coronavirus-restrictions-relaxed.html) * [Why Taiwan Hasn't Shut Down Its Economy - Foundation for Economic Education](https://fee.org/articles/why-taiwan-hasnt-shut-down-its-economy/) * [The New Abnormal with Molly Jong-Fast & Rick Wilson | Podcast on Spotify](https://open.spotify.com/show/5iFH0T9NXwxpD5PYVNV3NU) * [Dr. Anthony Fauci Cold Open - SNL - YouTube](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uW56CL0pk0g) * [Middleditch & Schwartz: Can a Netflix Special Save Improv?](https://www.vulture.com/2020/04/middleditch-schwartz-netflix-comedy-specials.html) * [Runaway sheep escape through Long Branch streets; owner fined](https://www.app.com/story/news/local/public-safety/2020/04/27/runaway-sheep-escape-through-long-branch-streets-owner-fined/3033382001/) * [US food processing plants become COVID-19 hot spots | CIDRAP](https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-perspective/2020/04/us-food-processing-plants-become-covid-19-hot-spots) * [H-2A visa - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H-2A_visa) * [Wet market - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wet_market) * [The proximal origin of SARS-CoV-2 | Nature Medicine](https://www.nature.com/articles/s41591-020-0820-9) * [Experts know the new coronavirus is not a bioweapon. They disagree on whether it could have leaked from a research lab - Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists](https://thebulletin.org/2020/03/experts-know-the-new-coronavirus-is-not-a-bioweapon-they-disagree-on-whether-it-could-have-leaked-from-a-research-lab/) * [CDC details problems at Texas A&M biodefense lab | CIDRAP](https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-perspective/2007/09/cdc-details-problems-texas-am-biodefense-lab) * [Rutgers Scientist Warns of Safety and Security Lapses at Bioterrorism Research Labs](https://sas.rutgers.edu/news-a-events/news/newsroom/faculty/2004-scientist-at-rutgers-emerges-as-leading-critic-of-labs-that-handle-pathogens) * [Warren Zevon - Lawyers, Guns and Money - YouTube](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lP5Xv7QqXiM) * [Chipotle agrees to pay $25 million federal fine for role in some outbreaks | Food Safety News](https://www.foodsafetynews.com/2020/04/chipotle-agrees-to-pay-25-million-federal-fine-for-role-in-some-outbreaks/)

Food Safety Talk 209: Joe Exotic Stimulus Check

22 april 2020 | 104 min

Food Safety Talk 208: Poopers on the Fritz

17 april 2020 | 119 min

Food Safety Talk 207: Keeping Food Out of Toilet Rooms

15 april 2020 | 104 min

Food Safety Talk 206: The Truth Is Out There

1 april 2020 | 99 min

Food Safety Talk 205: [Cough] [Record Scratch]

18 mars 2020 | 130 min

Food Safety Talk 204: How Percents Work

29 februari 2020 | 105 min

Food Safety Talk 203: Never Met a Gord I Didn't Like

17 februari 2020 | 108 min

Food Safety Talk 202: We Are All Waiting for the Return

1 februari 2020 | 121 min

Food Safety Talk 201: CDC Says It Was You

3 januari 2020 | 118 min

Food Safety Talk 200: Room Audio

16 december 2019 | 64 min

Food Safety Talk 199: Possum Droppers

27 november 2019 | 129 min

Chris Gunter (@vegetabledoc) / Twitter

Food Safety Talk 3: Be the Ball (Chris Gunter, Guest) — Food Safety Talk

Sharpie ✓ Yuge font ✓ Random all caps ✓ Zelensky spelled wrong ✓ Yep, Trump wrote this | Donald Trump’s “I Want Nothing” Note | Know Your Meme

Applied Ecology | NC State University

Ben Reading | Applied Ecology | NC State University

Farm to Table - Understanding and Making Kimchi

Retail HACCP and Variances | NC State Extension

Sourdough – Public Science Lab

Dr Sarah L Desmarais - NC State

Sara Elnakib, RD, MPH, CHES (Rutgers NJAES)

Modeling yeast spoilage in cold-filled ready-to-drink beverages with Saccharomyces cerevisiae, Zygosaccharomyces bailii, and Candida lipolytica

Siobain Duffy Ecology Evolution and Natural Resources

RStudio

Outbreak of Hepatitis A Virus Infections Linked to Fresh Blackberries | CDC

Timeline of Outbreak of Hepatitis A Virus Infections Linked to Fresh Blackberries | CDC

Map and case count for Outbreak of Hepatitis A Virus Infections Linked to Fresh Blackberries | CDC

Odds ratio - Wikipedia

About Us | Fresh Thyme

Some boxes of Cheese Nips are being recalled - CNN

Chopped golf balls in hash browns prompts recall

Outbreak of E. coli Infections | E.coli Infections | November 2019 | E. coli | CDC

FDA, CDC and other health partners investigated outbreak of E. coli O157:H7 possibly linked to romaine lettuce, outbreak appears to be over | FDA

FDA hid romaine-related outbreak from public view for more than 6 weeks | Food Safety News

FDA Discloses New E. Coli Romaine Outbreak After It Ends

Outbreak Announcement via Tweet - Now, that is Transparency | Marler Blog

https://foodpolicy.rutgers.edu/docs/pubs/2007_Public%20Response%20to%20the%20Contaminated%20Spinach%20Recall%20of%202006.pdf

Amazon.com: Setting the Table: The Transforming Power of Hospitality in Business eBook: Danny Meyer: Kindle Store

Cooler Case Cleaner - Kaivac Cleaning Systems

Evaluation of data transformations used with the square root and schoolfield models for predicting bacterial growth rate. | Applied and Environmental Microbiology

https://www.fda.gov/files/food/published/Bad-Bug-Book-2nd-Edition-%28PDF%29.pdf

Yersinia enterocolitica O:3 Infections in Infants and Children, Associated with the Household Preparation of Chitterlings | NEJM

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3375761/pdf/09-1101p1_finalR.pdf

Carrots and lettuce cause outbreak in Bay - NZ Herald

Letterkenny (TV series) - Wikipedia

Urban Dictionary: Chel

Group Hopes to Prevent “Opossum Dropping” on New Year’s Eve

Degens | Letterkenny Wikia | FANDOM powered by Wikia

‘The World Is Covered by a Thin Layer of Feces’ - Google Search

Mann Brand/Private Brand U.S. Products - Mann Packaging Product Recall

Dirty Headphones: Common tech accessory likely to blame for uptick in infections, doctors say | abc11.com

Fish Poisoning in Travelers: Ciguatera and Scombroid | Travelers’ Health | CDC

Food Safety Talk 198: Very Old Molasses (with Rachael Jackson)

11 november 2019 | 104 min

Food Safety Talk 197: 51 years of food safety (recorded live in Sun Valley, ID)

25 oktober 2019 | 70 min

Food Safety Talk 196: Superintendent of Judges

17 oktober 2019 | 121 min

* [Letterkenny (TV series) - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Letterkenny_(TV_series))

* [Thanksgiving (Canada) - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thanksgiving_(Canada))

* [FDA Food Code | FDA](https://www.fda.gov/food/retail-food-protection/fda-food-code)

* [The Andy Griffith Show - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Andy_Griffith_Show)

* [Lower Trenton Bridge - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lower_Trenton_Bridge)

* ['Trenton Makes, the World Takes': History of a Slogan : NPR](https://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=5157037)

* [Cuff The Duke - Rossland Square (Official Audio) - YouTube](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tqQrueNb-9E)

* [2019 N.C. State Fair - Nothing Could Be Finer!](https://www.ncstatefair.org/2019/index.htm)

* [Food Safety Talk 137: Grandma makes the best pickles — Food Safety Talk](http://foodsafetytalk.com/food-safety-talk/2017/10/23/food-safety-talk-137-grandma-makes-the-best-pickles?rq=%22state%20fair%22)

* [Bless your heart - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bless_your_heart)

* [N.C. State Fair cancels King Arthur Flour Cooking Contest due to flour recall :: WRAL.com](https://www.wral.com/n-c-state-fair-cancels-king-arthur-flour-cooking-contest-due-to-flour-recall/18691819/)

* [Food Safety Talk 185: Hot Diapers — Food Safety Talk](http://foodsafetytalk.com/food-safety-talk/2019/6/19/food-safety-talk-185-hot-diapers?rq=flour)

* [N.C. State Fair cancels King Arthur Flour Special Cooking Contest, alerts competitors to expanded recall - pdf](https://www.ncstatefair.org/2019/Newsroom/documents/KingArthurFlourRecall.pdf)

* [General Mills recalls five-pound bags of Gold Medal Unbleached All Purpose Flour](https://www.generalmills.com/flour)

* [Beth McCoy | SUNY Geneseo](https://www.geneseo.edu/english/mccoy)

* [Food Safety Talk 65: All My Ports are Engaged — Food Safety Talk](http://foodsafetytalk.com/food-safety-talk/2014/8/27/food-safety-talk-65-batz?rq=informed%20consent)

* [Food Safety Talk 163: Grown on Chia Pets — Food Safety Talk](http://foodsafetytalk.com/food-safety-talk/2018/9/7/food-safety-talk-163-grown-on-chia-pets)

* [Penn State Proper Processing of Wild Game and Fish](https://extension.psu.edu/proper-processing-of-wild-game-and-fish)

* [Penn State Game Meat Safety](https://extension.psu.edu/game-meat-safety)

* [Hunting and Game Meat Temperature Tips | ThermoWorks](https://blog.thermoworks.com/thermometer/hunting-season-dont-fall-prey-food-borne-illness/)

* [USDA Wild Game Internal Temperature Cooking Guidelines and Documentation | Smoking Meat Forums - The Best Barbecue Discussion Forum On Earth!](https://www.smokingmeatforums.com/threads/usda-wild-game-internal-temperature-cooking-guidelines-and-documentation.262677/)

* [FDA Model Food Code 2017 - pdf](https://www.fda.gov/media/110822/download)

* [Fate of Salmonella Inoculated into Beef for Cooking | Journal of Food Protection](https://jfoodprotection.org/doi/abs/10.4315/0362-028X-41.8.598)

* [CDC - Trichinellosis - Trichinellosis Information for Hunters](https://www.cdc.gov/parasites/trichinellosis/hunters.html)

* [Does Ask Karen provide recipes?](https://ask.usda.gov/s/article/Does-Ask-Karen-provide-recipes)

* [Teal Pumpkin Project® | Food Allergy Research & Education](https://www.foodallergy.org/education-awareness/teal-pumpkin-project)

* [Some tea bags may shed billions of microplastics per cup | CBC News](https://www.cbc.ca/news/technology/tea-bags-plastic-study-mcgill-1.5295662)

* [Food Plastics = Estrogens in Your Body - YouTube](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BIvHrC_mS_M&feature=youtu.be)

* [Scott M. Belcher – Toxicology Program at NC State University](https://tox.sciences.ncsu.edu/people/scott-m-belcher/)

* [Mercury Factsheet | National Biomonitoring Program | CDC](https://www.cdc.gov/biomonitoring/Mercury_FactSheet.html)

* [Arsenic in Rice and Rice Products Risk Assessment Report- pdf](https://www.fda.gov/files/food/published/Arsenic-in-Rice-and-Rice-Products-Risk-Assessment-Report-PDF.pdf)

* [Public Meeting on a New Era of Smarter Food Safety - 10/21/2019 - 10/21/2019 | FDA](https://www.fda.gov/food/workshops-meetings-webinars-food-and-dietary-supplements/public-meeting-new-era-smarter-food-safety-10212019-10212019)

* [National Center for Home Food Preservation | Canning FAQs - How can I become a Master Food Preserver?](https://nchfp.uga.edu/questions/FAQ_general.html#1)

* [MasterClass Online Classes](https://www.masterclass.com/)

* [In The Kitchen | Homegrown | NC State University](https://homegrown.extension.ncsu.edu/category/in-the-kitchen/)

* [Mark Knopfler & James Taylor - Sailing to Philadelphia - YouTube](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OrLdKYRBOEE)

Food Safety Talk 195: Three Wok Podcast

8 oktober 2019 | 147 min

Food Safety Talk 194: Eight Days of Poop

25 september 2019 | 74 min

Food Safety Talk 193: E dash Coli

16 september 2019 | 111 min

Food Safety Talk 192: Foot Safety Talk

7 september 2019 | 117 min

The show opens with some hurricane safety talk, but quickly moves to discussion of an email that Ben received last night relating to some microbiological tests on water and hypothetically related illnesses. The guys do a deep dive on communicating risk in the midst of uncertainty before moving to listen or feedback. Listener feedback focuses on fake whiskey, standards for foreign objects in food, refrigerator temperature monitoring, Toxicology of recyclable bowls, the volume of hot air hand dryers, food safety culture, and the risks posed by hotels and airports. * [Hurricane Dorian brushing the coast of North Carolina as a Category 1 storm - CNN](https://www.cnn.com/2019/09/05/us/hurricane-dorian-thursday-wxc/index.html) * [Walkerton E. coli outbreak - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walkerton_E._coli_outbreak) * [North Carolina Public Water Supply Section, Drinking Water Watch](https://www.pwss.enr.state.nc.us/NCDWW2/JSP/PosTcrSampleResults.jsp?tinwsys_is_number=3042&tinwsys_st_code=NC&begin_date=&end_date=&counter=0) * [North Carolina Public Water Supply Section, Drinking Water Watch](https://www.pwss.enr.state.nc.us/NCDWW2/JSP/TCRFieldResults.jsp?tinwsys_is_number=3042&tinwsys_st_code=NC&tsasampl_is_number=2748054&tsasampl_st_code=NC) * [EPA: The Data Management and Quality Assurance/Quality Control Process for the Third Six-Year Review Information Collection Rule Dataset](https://www.epa.gov/sites/production/files/2016-12/documents/810r16015_0.pdf) * [FDA Finalizes New Compliance Dates for Agricultural Water Requirements | FDA](https://www.fda.gov/food/cfsan-constituent-updates/fda-finalizes-new-compliance-dates-agricultural-water-requirements) * [Third of rare Scotch whiskies tested found to be fake - BBC News](https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-scotland-business-46566703) * [Glasgow scientists develop artificial tongue to tackle fake whisky - BBC News](https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-49239925) * [Bourbon and Rye Whiskeys Are Legally Distinct but Are Not Discriminated by Sensory Descriptive Analysis - Lahne - 2019 - Journal of Food Science ](https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1111/1750-3841.14468) * [CPG Sec. 555.425 Foods, Adulteration Involving hard or Sharp Foreign Objects | FDA](https://www.fda.gov/regulatory-information/search-fda-guidance-documents/cpg-sec-555425-foods-adulteration-involving-hard-or-sharp-foreign-objects) * [Regulatory Action Criteria for Filth and Other Extraneous Materials: I. Review of Hard or Sharp Foreign Objects as Physical Hazards in Food - ScienceDirect](https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0273230098912491) * [The easiest way to monitor the environmental conditions affecting the things you care about](http://www.sensorpush.com/) * [Amazon.com: SensorPush Wireless Thermometer/Hygrometer for iPhone/Android - Humidity & Temperature Smart Sensor with Alerts. Developed and Supported in The USA: Home & Kitchen](https://www.amazon.com/SensorPush-Wireless-Thermometer-Hygrometer-Android/dp/B01AEQ9X9I/ref=asc_df_B01AEQ9X9I/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=194026055947&hvpos=1o2&hvnetw=g&hvrand=16174770853206960614&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9004041&hvtargid=pla-375433369637&psc=1) * [The "compostable" bowls at Chipotle, Sweetgreen, and your favorite food hall are made with PFAS | New Food Economy](https://newfoodeconomy.org/pfas-forever-chemicals-sweetgreen-chipotle-compostable-biodegradable-bowls/) * [Basic Information on PFAS | Per- and Polyfluoroalkyl Substances (PFAS) | US EPA](https://www.epa.gov/pfas/basic-information-pfas) * [Jane Hoppin, ScD – Associate Professor, Biological Sciences; Deputy Director, Center for Human Health and the Environment](https://jahoppin.wordpress.ncsu.edu/) * [NC DEQ: GenX Investigation](https://deq.nc.gov/news/key-issues/genx-investigation) * [Children who say hand dryers ‘hurt my ears’ are correct: A real-world study examining the loudness of automated hand dryers in public places | Paediatrics & Child Health | Oxford Academic](https://academic.oup.com/pch/advance-article/doi/10.1093/pch/pxz046/5519522) * [ Australia’s Foodborne Illness Reduction Strategy 2018‒2021+](https://foodregulation.gov.au/internet/fr/publishing.nsf/Content/51D7B1FFFCAD05C5CA2582B900051DDD/$File/FORUM-AUS-FBI-RS-2018.pdf) * [Food safety culture - gov.au](http://www.foodstandards.gov.au/foodsafety/culture/Pages/default.aspx) * [‎Etna Food Safety on Apple Podcasts](https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/etna-food-safety/id1467070583?ign-mpt=uo%3D4) * [Quantitative Data Analysis To Determine Best Food Cooling Practices in U.S. Restaurants | Journal of Food Protection](https://jfoodprotection.org/doi/abs/10.4315/0362-028X.JFP-14-252) * [Food safety culture: the evolution of an emerging risk factor? | Emerald Insight](https://www.emerald.com/insight/content/doi/10.1108/00070701011034439/full/html) * [The assessment of food safety culture | Emerald Insight](https://www.emerald.com/insight/content/doi/10.1108/00070701011034448/full/html) * [Hockey Coaching Certification](https://www.usahockey.com/coachingcertification) * [The Five Levels of an Ethical Culture | Reports | BSR](https://www.bsr.org/en/our-insights/report-view/the-five-levels-of-an-ethical-culture) * [Why You Should Never Take Baths at Hotels - Condé Nast Traveler](https://www.cntraveler.com/stories/2016-04-27/why-you-should-never-take-baths-at-hotels) * [How Gross Is the Hot Tub in My Hotel or Spa? - VICE](https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/4354ed/how-gross-is-the-hot-tub-in-my-hotel-or-spa) * [This Entomologist Has a Travel Warning: Always Put Your Suitcase in the Hotel Bathroom | Apartment Therapy](https://www.apartmenttherapy.com/suitcase-hotel-bathroom-36634785) * [Airport "security" trays are filthy reservoirs of infectious agents / Boing Boing](https://boingboing.net/2018/09/05/disgusting-airport-trays.html) * [Deposition of respiratory virus pathogens on frequently touched surfaces at airports](https://bmcinfectdis.biomedcentral.com/track/pdf/10.1186/s12879-018-3150-5)

Food Safety Talk 191: Make KABOBs with Gordon

27 augusti 2019 | 106 min

Food Safety Talk 190: Once My Taste Went Weird (with Daniel Jalkut)

15 augusti 2019 | 126 min

Food Safety Talk 189: Guerrilla Sous Vide Is A Go (Live from Renton Technical College)

12 augusti 2019 | 112 min

Food Safety Talk 188: Cook a Pizza With a Pizza

2 augusti 2019 | 140 min

Food Safety Talk 187: Must Split and Toast

30 juli 2019 | 131 min

Food Safety Talk 186: This is a free snake!

4 juli 2019 | 128 min

Food Safety Talk 185: Hot Diapers

19 juni 2019 | 102 min

Food Safety Talk 184: Pull Your Pork Properly

5 juni 2019 | 117 min

Food Safety Talk 183: Raw Raw Raw Almonds

29 maj 2019 | 125 min

Food Safety Talk 182: Is It Their Last Tuna?

9 maj 2019 | 142 min

Food Safety Talk 181: Hot Pants!

30 april 2019 | 152 min

Food Safety Talk 180: That's the Question I'm Asking!

9 april 2019 | 132 min

Food Safety Talk 179: My Oven is 1200 W

2 april 2019 | 76 min

Food Safety Talk 178: Search for the Word "Vomit"

21 mars 2019 | min

Food Safety Talk 177: Toilet as a Research Device

8 mars 2019 | 98 min

Food Safety Talk 176: Bug Book

21 februari 2019 | 117 min

* [The Talk Show ✪: Ep. 243, With Special Guest Rich Mogull](https://daringfireball.net/thetalkshow/2019/02/15/ep-243)

* [Alexa, STOP! | Do By Friday](http://dobyfriday.com/95)

* [The Tunnel (TV Series 2013–2018) - IMDb](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2711738/)

* [Schitt's Creek - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schitt%27s_Creek)

* [Creature Comforts Brewing Co.](http://www.creaturecomfortsbeer.com/)

* [R.E.M. Athens Itinerary](https://www.visitathensga.com/blog/post/rem-athens-itinerary/)

* [Fake nude of Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez busted by foot fetishist. | Someecards News](https://www.someecards.com/news/news/foot-fetishist-fake-nude-alexandria-ocasio-cortez/)

* [Steven Tyler shows off twisted toes on the beach; rocker has Morton’s neuroma from dancing too hard in ill-fitting shoes - New York Daily News](https://www.nydailynews.com/life-style/health/steven-tyler-shows-twisted-toes-beach-rocker-morton-neuroma-dancing-hard-ill-fitting-shoes-article-1.1058615)

* [On the human consumption of the red seaweed dulse](https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10811-013-0014-7)

* [Town of Truro, that's in Canada](https://www.truro.ca/)

* [The Seaweed Resources of Eastern Canada](https://www2.unb.ca/chopinlab/articles/files/2006.SeaweedResourcesofCanada.pdf)

* [Truro, Massachusetts, that's not in Canada](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Truro,_Massachusetts)

* [This Princeton professor's amazing CV of failures is something we should all learn from](https://www.sciencealert.com/why-creating-a-cv-of-failures-is-good-Princeton-professor-viral)

* [Conchiolin - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conchiolin)

* [Susan Alber, UCLA article](http://www.ph.ucla.edu/pdfs/SPHmag.Nov03.student.Alber.pdf)

* [Susan Alber, Ph.D. | UC Davis Department of Statistics](https://statistics.ucdavis.edu/people/susan-alber)

* [Restaurant Lemon Water Is a Sneaky Place for Germs | Reader's Digest](https://www.rd.com/health/healthy-eating/lemon-water-germs/)

* [Microbial Flora on Restaurant Beverage Lemon Slices](http://www.pccc.edu/uploads/Xu/1x/Xu1xPvHvoXeYex8Gf1Uh0Q/JEH_Dec_07_with_Copyright.pdf)

* [Enjoy infused water safely - MSU Extension](https://www.canr.msu.edu/news/enjoy_infused_water_safely)

* [Smoke Detectors Beep When the Temperature Drops | ThriftyFun](https://www.thriftyfun.com/tf74868765.tip.html)

* [Salmonella | FoodSafety.gov](https://www.foodsafety.gov/poisoning/causes/bacteriaviruses/salmonella/index.html)

* [What is a Filibuster? - dummies](https://www.dummies.com/education/politics-government/what-is-a-filibuster/)

* [FDA Bad Bug Book - Handbook of Foodborne Pathogenic Microorganisms and Natural Toxins](https://www.fda.gov/downloads/Food/FoodborneIllnessContaminants/UCM297627.pdf)

* [Laboratory Methods > Bacteriological Analytical Manual (BAM)](https://www.fda.gov/food/foodscienceresearch/laboratorymethods/ucm2006949.htm)

* [E. Jeffery Rhodehamel](https://www.clemson.edu/cafls/faculty_staff/profiles/jrhode)

* [8 Foods That Are NEVER Worth Saving for Leftovers - Cooking Light](https://www.cookinglight.com/news/foods-you-should-not-reheat)

* [FoodKeeper App | FoodSafety.gov](https://www.foodsafety.gov/keep/foodkeeperapp/index.html)

* [Mojave upgrade has broken Spotlight index… - Apple Community](https://discussions.apple.com/thread/8586764)

* [Pinnacle Foods Birds Eye Cheddar sauce Cauliflower Broccoli - cooking directions](https://www.kisspng.com/png-pinnacle-foods-birds-eye-cheddar-sauce-cauliflower-6079802/)

* [Multistate Outbreak of Listeriosis Linked to Frozen Vegetables | Listeria | CDC](https://www.cdc.gov/listeria/outbreaks/frozen-vegetables-05-16/index.html)

* [Recall & Advice to Consumers and Retailers Multistate Outbreak of Listeriosis Linked to Frozen Vegetables | Listeria | CDC](https://www.cdc.gov/listeria/outbreaks/frozen-vegetables-05-16/advice-consumers.html)

* [FSIS - Revised Appendix A - June 2017](https://www.fsis.usda.gov/wps/wcm/connect/bf3f01a1-a0b7-4902-a2df-a87c73d1b633/Salmonella-Compliance-Guideline-SVSP-RTE-Appendix-A.pdf?MOD=AJPERES)

* [FDA Draft Guidance for Industry: Hazard Analysis and Risk-Based Preventive Controls for Human Food Appendix 3: Bacterial Pathogen Growth and Inactivation](https://www.fda.gov/downloads/Food/GuidanceRegulation/FSMA/UCM517405.pdf)

* [FoodKeeper App | FoodSafety.gov](https://www.foodsafety.gov/keep/foodkeeperapp/index.html)

* [Servsafe - Cooking Requirements for Specific Types of Food](http://elearning.servsafe.com/content/ssmct6/assets/en/pdf/cooking_requirements.pdf)

* [FSIS Safe Minimum Internal Temperature Chart](https://www.fsis.usda.gov/wps/portal/fsis/topics/food-safety-education/get-answers/food-safety-fact-sheets/safe-food-handling/safe-minimum-internal-temperature-chart/ct_index)

* [FoodSafety.gov Safe Minimum Cooking Temperatures](https://www.foodsafety.gov/keep/charts/mintemp.html)

* [FDA Safe Minimum Internal Temperatures](https://www.fda.gov/downloads/Food/ResourcesForYou/Consumers/UCM462491.pdf)

* [FDA Food Code 2017](https://www.fda.gov/downloads/Food/GuidanceRegulation/RetailFoodProtection/FoodCode/UCM595140.pdf)

* [Safe Minimum Cooking Temperatures | Gordon Food Service](https://www.gfs.com/en-us/ideas/safe-minimum-cooking-temperatures)

* [Helpful Hints | Frozen Food Foundation](http://www.frozenfoodfacts.org/about-frozen-foods/helpful-hints)

* [4 Cooking Mistakes You’re Probably Making With Frozen Vegetables - Cooking Light](https://www.cookinglight.com/cooking-101/techniques/cooking-with-frozen-vegetables-mistakes)

* [Food Safety Basics A Reference Guide for Foodservice Operators — Publications](https://www.ag.ndsu.edu/publications/food-nutrition/food-safety-basics-a-reference-guide-for-foodservice-operators)

* [Food Safety in the Kitchen | Food Safety | CDC](https://www.cdc.gov/foodsafety/communication/food-safety-in-the-kitchen.html)

* [Richard Linton - Dean, College of Agriculture & Life Sciences](https://www.ces.ncsu.edu/profile/richard-linton/)

Food Safety Talk 175: Dodransbicentennial

15 februari 2019 | 116 min

Food Safety Talk 174: No Borscht Collusion

30 januari 2019 | 116 min

Food Safety Talk 173: Paper Towel Tongues

15 januari 2019 | 115 min

Food Safety Talk 172: Math is Hard

28 december 2018 | 129 min

Food Safety Talk 171: 350 Million Caesars

25 december 2018 | 91 min

Food Safety Talk 170: Pants Pants Pants!

26 november 2018 | 143 min

Food Safety Talk 169: Panel of Plonkers

15 november 2018 | 108 min

Food Safety Talk 168: Washed Up in Big Soap

2 november 2018 | min

Food Safety Talk 167: Will There Be Ninjas?

26 oktober 2018 | 109 min

Food Safety Talk 166: Surprising lack of cannibalism questions

15 oktober 2018 | 81 min

Food Safety Talk 165: Vladimir Poutine

3 oktober 2018 | 102 min

Food Safety Talk 164: 99 Problems, but Power Ain't One

17 september 2018 | 112 min

Food Safety Talk 163: Grown on Chia Pets

7 september 2018 | 111 min

Food Safety Talk 162: FST Bolo Ties

20 augusti 2018 | 118 min

Food Safety Talk 161: Two shows for the price of one

8 augusti 2018 | 131 min

Food Safety Talk 160: The Bounds of Credulity

23 juli 2018 | min

Food Safety Talk 159: Hot Tongs

12 juli 2018 | 88 min

Food Safety Talk 158: Sullied in This Way

5 juli 2018 | min

Food Safety Talk 157: 1000 Jars of Jam (Live from MSU)

28 juni 2018 | 57 min

Food Safety Talk 156: Rank the Kato's

16 juni 2018 | min

Food Safety Talk 155: Diamond Dave

5 juni 2018 | 110 min

The episode starts with a discussion on old TV shows that the guys should be or have watched. Ben and Don talk about food pantries and frozen chicken items that look cooked but are raw. The guys then chat cookie food safety, insurance policies, traceability and blockchain in Romaine. The conversation goes to a Twitter exchange started by FDA commissioner Scott Gotlieb that Don joined that got to J. Kenji Alt-Lopez (and back to Don) that ended with the grind-your-own-beef-is safer question. The episode ends with a discussion on kimchi fermentation and parameters need to safely make it in restaurant kitchens.

Show notes so you can follow along at home here:

NJ Automobile Glass Installation and Repair

David Lee Roth - Wikipedia

The Giving Tree - Wikipedia

Arrested Development (TV series) - Wikipedia

Deep Space 9 | Memory Alpha | FANDOM powered by Wikia

Tony Hale - Wikipedia

The Sunday Edition – June 3, 2018 | CBC Radio

sjh_canada on Twitter

Four salmonella cases linked to chicken from Ruby’s Pantry sites | INFORUM

Evaluating North Carolina Food Pantry Food Safety–Related Operating Procedures | Journal of Food Protection

Ben Chapman on Twitter

J. Kenji López-Alt on Twitter

J. Kenji López-Alt

Irradiated Ground Beef - Wegmans

Rutgers Food Innovation Center

FDA Update on Traceback Related to the E. coli O157:H7 Outbreak Linked to Romaine Lettuce | FDA Voice

Inactivation of Escherichia coli and Listeria monocytogenes on iceberg lettuce by dip wash treatments with organic acids.

Survival of Escherichia coli O157:H7 and Salmonella enterica serovars Typhimurium in iceberg lettuce and the antimicrobial effect of rice vinegar

Use of organic acids to inactivate Escherichia coli O157:H7, Salmonella Typhimurium, and Listeria monocytogenes on organic fresh apples and lettuce

Capacity of Listeria monocytogenes Strains from the 2011 Cantaloupe Outbreak To Adhere, Survive, and Grow on Cantaloupe

Pathogenic Escherichia coli and Salmonella Can Survive in Kimchi during Fermentation

Quantification of the Relative Effects of Temperature, pH, and Water Activity on Inactivation of Escherichia coli in Fermented Meat by Meta-Analysis

No, don’t roast marshmallows over Hawaii volcanic vents - CNN

Cooking great meals with your car engine. The heat is on

Food Safety Talk 154: Poop Finger Quote

24 maj 2018 | 88 min

Food Safety Talk 153: While They Are Poopin'

9 maj 2018 | 126 min

Food Safety Talk 152: One Hangup, One Hug

30 april 2018 | 39 min

Food Safety Talk 151: Washing My Own Head

30 april 2018 | 99 min

Food Safety Talk 150: Rambunctious Ramble in the Jungle

15 april 2018 | 110 min

Food Safety Talk 149: Free-range, Grass-fed Raised Unicorns

4 april 2018 | 98 min

Food Safety Talk 148: Why not suck instead of blow?

15 mars 2018 | 95 min

Food Safety Talk 147: Only Robots In The Kitchen

5 mars 2018 | 101 min

Food Safety Talk 146: Vegas Baby!

21 februari 2018 | 107 min

Food Safety Talk 145: Cold Pizza for Breakfast

12 februari 2018 | 102 min

Food Safety Talk 144: They Look and Taste Like Green Turds

25 januari 2018 | 120 min

The guys jumped right into the food safety talk this week with a discussion of the Jimmy John's sprout outbreak. From there the conversation turns to a whole lot of listener questions and feedback: Instant Pot, more on edible gold and silver, the safety of pots left on the stove as well as refrigerator leftovers, fiddleheads, proper spatula use, burger temperatures, and food safety gadgets. There's a little bit of popular culture talk right at the end. Below are show notes so you can follow along at home. FDA Investigates Multistate Outbreak of Salmonella Infections Linked to Sprouts Served at Certain Jimmy John’s Restaurants Multistate Outbreak of Salmonella Montevideo Infections Linked to Raw Sprouts - CDC Sprouts sicken at least 8 linked to Jimmy John’s: It’s all happening, again - barfblog IAFP Food on Twitter: Meet IAFP Member Don Schaffner Burning Issue: Canning in Electric Multi-Cookers Tesco Lustre Edible Gold And Silver Bending the Rules on Bacteria and Food Safety - The New York Times Rest in peace, Dean Allen How long can you leave turkey broth out before it goes bad? USDA FSIS on Leftovers and Food Safety Health Canada on Food safety tips for leftovers UK Food Standards Agency on reheating leftovers USDA FSIS Appendix A to Compliance Guidelines Buchanan and Schaffner, FPT Ostrich Fern Poisoning - New York and Western Canada, 1994 Health Canada Fiddlehead safety tips Gastroenteritis Associated with Consumption of Fiddlehead Ferns — Anchorage, May 2010 7 sick from fiddleheads in Toronto | barfblog Single Jar Canned Pickled Goods | Vegetables | Garlic | Sausage | Eggs Sonic Soak: The Ultimate Ultrasonic Cleaning Tool from Indiegogo Amazon.com: 12.8L Home Use Ultrasonic Ozone Vegetable Fruit Sterilizer Cleaner Washer Health by Moredental: Industrial & Scientific Fate of Shiga toxin-producing O157:H7 and non-O157:H7 Escherichia coli cells within refrigerated, frozen, or frozen then thawed ground beef patties The Wrong Mans (TV Series 2013–2014) - IMDb Patriot (TV Series 2015– ) - IMDb

Food Safety Talk 143: I Don't Want Dead Water

10 januari 2018 | 102 min

Food Safety Talk 142: Silver Balls

22 december 2017 | 107 min

Food Safety Talk 141: Dot Zaaa

9 december 2017 | 89 min

Food Safety Talk 140: Dr. Linda is a Friend of Mine

28 november 2017 | 111 min

Food Safety Talk 139: Rile Up The Base

16 november 2017 | 88 min

Food Safety Talk 138: Ominous noises

31 oktober 2017 | 111 min

This special pre-halloween episode features ominous noises, (and we are not talking about the pinging noise from Don's email in the background). The show opens with discussion of the sights and smells of fresh compost around Ben's office. After a brief digression into favorite TV, podcasts and fan feedback, the talk turns to recent food safety publications on cutting board safety and water bottle sanitation, followed by best Reduced Oxygen Packaging Handling practices from listener feedback. Next Ben gets real time inspiration and the guys do some back of the envelope risk assessment on home preparation of black garlic before a discussion raw camel milk and the risks of fake cures. The show ends with a discussion of turkey eggs and Canadian Thanksgiving. Here are show notes so you can follow along at home: * [JC Raulston Arboretum](https://jcra.ncsu.edu//) * [NC State University Youth, Family, and Community Sciences](http://yfcs.cals.ncsu.edu/us/) * [Doc Martin (TV Series 2004– ) - IMDb](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0408381/) * [Stranger Things (TV Series 2016– ) - IMDb](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt4574334/) * [Rick and Morty on Adult Swim](http://www.adultswim.com/videos/rick-and-morty/) * [Do By Friday](http://dobyfriday.com/) * [Going Public: Early Disclosure of Food Risks for the Benefit of Public Health](https://www.neha.org/node/58904) * [Food safety in French: Le Blog d’Albert Amgar](http://www.barfblog.com/2009/07/food-safety-in-french-le-blog-dalbert-amgar/) * [Cross-Contamination and Biofilm Formation by Salmonella enterica Serovar Enteritidis on Various Cutting Boards | Abstract](http://online.liebertpub.com/doi/abs/10.1089/fpd.2017.2341) * [Austin Bouck on Twitter](https://twitter.com/furfarmandfork/status/923580896829095936) * [Food Protection Trends - November/December 2017 [398 - 399]](http://www.nxtbook.com/nxtbooks/trilix/fpt_20171112/index.php#/16) * [ROP in 2013 code fact sheet](http://food-safety.guru/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/ROP-in-2013-code-fact-sheet.pdf) * [Black Garlic](http://blackgarlic.com/) * [Black garlic - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_garlic) * [Why Is FDA Trying to Block Autistic Families from Raw Camel Milk?](http://www.davidgumpert.com/fda-trying-block-families-autistic-accessing-raw-camel-milk) * [Patient Report: Autism Spectrum Disorder Treated With Camel Milk](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3865381/) * [FDA issues warning against fake autism 'cures'](http://www.kansascity.com/living/health-fitness/article144265774.html) * [Consumer Updates > Autism: Beware of Potentially Dangerous Therapies and Products](https://www.fda.gov/ForConsumers/ConsumerUpdates/ucm394757.htm) * [11th Dubai International Food Safety Conference - DIFSC](http://www.foodsafetydubai.com/) * [Why Don't We Eat Turkey Eggs? - Modern Farmer](https://modernfarmer.com/2016/11/dont-eat-turkey-eggs/) * [Thanksgiving, Canada - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thanksgiving_(Canada)

Food Safety Talk 137: Grandma makes the best pickles

24 oktober 2017 | 102 min

Food Safety Talk 136: Unknown Puppy Exposure

8 oktober 2017 | 116 min

Show notes so you can follow along at home: * [Sonny Perdue](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sonny_Perdue) * [CRISPR](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CRISPR) * [Dr. Richard Linton](https://norocore.ncsu.edu/about/our-team/dr-richard-linton/) * [USDA, Risk Assessment & Cost-Benefit Analysis](https://www.usda.gov/oce/risk_assessment/forums.htm) * [Agricultural Communications Major, Auburn University](http://bulletin.auburn.edu/undergraduate/collegeofagriculture/agcommunications_major/) * [FSIS Mass Media Campaign Plan](https://www.fsis.usda.gov/wps/wcm/connect/8f313f7f-57bc-465b-b78d-c8204db01e48/BFS_Theoretical_Framework.pdf?MOD=AJPERES) * [Loitering](http://www.dictionary.com/browse/loitering) * [Fortunate Son, Do By Friday podcast](http://dobyfriday.com/45) * [How to Make Mind-Blowingly Delicious Burgers with Sous Vide - YouTube](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sIoo3TqKe-M) * [Food Safety Talk 85: I'm the jerky police (with Dan Benjamin)](http://foodsafetytalk.com/food-safety-talk/2015/12/18/food-safety-talk-85-im-the-jerky-police) * [Food Safety Talk 79: You’re Into Botulism Country (with Merlin Mann)](http://foodsafetytalk.com/food-safety-talk/2015/8/6/food-safety-talk-79-youre-into-botulism-country-with-merlin-mann) * [Death Wish Nitro: Safety Recall – Death Wish Coffee Company](https://www.deathwishcoffee.com/pages/important-safety-notice-recall-death-wish-nitro) * [A Weeknight Meal That Needs No Introduction - The New York Times](https://www.nytimes.com/2017/09/22/dining/sausage-peppers-recipe.html?&_r=0) * [Ewen Todd](http://ewentoddconsulting.com/2.html) * [Food Waste : ReFED | Rethink Food Waste](http://www.refed.com/?sort=economic-value-per-ton) * [Debra Palmer, Nutritional Sciences at Rutgers SEBS)](http://nutrition.rutgers.edu/faculty/debra-palmer.html) * [Transfer of Escherichia Coli to Lemons Slices and Ice during Handling](http://www.ccsenet.org/journal/index.php/jfr/article/view/69114/37663) * [Canadian Center of Science and Education FAQs](http://web.ccsenet.org/faqs.html) * [Multistate Outbreak of Multidrug-Resistant Campylobacter Infections Linked to Contact with Pet Store Puppies](https://www.cdc.gov/campylobacter/outbreaks/puppies-9-17/index.html) * [Trendy beer names, invented by neural network](http://lewisandquark.tumblr.com/post/166075083502/trendy-beer-names-invented-by-neural-network) * [Don’t use a neural network to name your next pub](http://lewisandquark.tumblr.com/post/165081046962/dont-use-a-neural-network-to-name-your-next-pub)

Food Safety Talk 135: This is a podcast

3 oktober 2017 | 76 min

Food Safety Talk 134: Restaurants always have Pi

15 september 2017 | 114 min

The show opens with a discussion of Ben's busy hockey schedule, chess and other games you can play on your iPhone. After the usual discussion of popular culture and television, the guys discuss the dangers of buying your degree online, famous people Ben knows on twitter and eventually move to food safety. The first food safety topic for discussion is a recent article on the relationship between minimum wage and restaurant inspection reports. The listener feedback section includes a discussion of vacuum packaged fish and botulism, clever tips for training unusual audiences, and the importance of cleaning the crud at the bottom of steam kettles. This leads to a discussion of allergens and species adulteration. Listener feedback concludes with a discussion of lactic acid as an alternative to triclosan in dish liquids. A discussion of food safety in the news includes the risks of chicken sashimi, and some insight into the California nacho cheese outbreak. Show notes so you can follow along at home: Ep. 257: "Sonic Posture" - Roderick on the Line Garry Kasparov (@Kasparov63) on Twitter Really Bad Chess Zach Gage Go, game - Wikipedia FreeCell - Wikipedia Rick and Morty (TV Series 2013– ) - IMDb Adventure Time - Wikipedia One Mississippi (TV Series 2015– ) - IMDb Hinterland (TV Series 2013– ) - IMDb About Us David Lloyd Shetland (TV Series 2013– ) - IMDb Murder, She Wrote (TV Series 1984–1996) - IMDb Toronto man 'angry' after learning his $8,100 master's degree that required no exams or academic work is fake Ivor Tossell (@ivortossell) on Twitter Amber Tamblyn Calls James Woods ‘Predatory’ in Open Letter | Variety Urbanette How The Minimum Wage Affects Restaurant Hygiene : NPR Minimum Wage and Restaurant Hygiene Violation: Evidence from Food Establishments in Seattle by Subir K. Chakrabarti, Srikant Devaraj, Pankaj C. Patel Minimum Wage and Restaurant Hygiene Violation pdf King County restaurants to post signs showing health-inspection grade | The Seattle Times Outbreak of Type E Botulism Associated with an Uneviscerated, Salt-Cured Fish Product -- New Jersey, 1992 Quantification of Nonproteolytic Clostridium botulinum Spore Loads in Food Materials Glo Germ: visual tool for handwashing training, aseptic techniques, infection control Sanja Ilic Clear Labs Complementary molecular methods detect undeclared species in sausage products at retail markets in Canada - ScienceDirect Palmolive's New Detergent Kills Bacteria on Dishes Is It Safe To Eat Chicken Sashimi? | Food & Wine Chicken sashimi is risky; and gross California Explains how to use a Nacho Cheese Dispenser Nacho cheese botulism was likely linked to retail practices

Food Safety Talk 133: You had me at Murder She Wrote

29 augusti 2017 | 124 min

Don and Ben talk Hurricane Harvey and food safety during power outages, British TV, podcast prepping, some food safety in the mainstream media American Greed. The guys then talked about the science behind ice cream, frozen yogurt went went to cutting melons, selling eggs stored at room temperature and tomato jam. Show notes so you can follow along at home: 4 Way Street - Wikipedia Ben Chapman on Twitter: “@bugcounter Definitely. https://t.co/U9l9pjyOqp” Food safety: What to keep and what to toss in a power outage | abc13.com Disaster Preparedness | North Carolina Cooperative Extension Videos Focus on Recovery in the Wake of a Flood | College of Agriculture and Life Sciences | NC State University ‎www.co.somerset.nj.us/home/showdocument?id=8228 White Gold (TV Series 2017– ) - IMDb Shetland (TV Series 2013– ) - IMDb List of American Greed episodes - Wikipedia Survival of Lactic Acid Bacteria in Commercial Frozen Yogurt - LOPEZ - 2006 - Journal of Food Science - Wiley Online Library ‘The windscreen phenomenon’ - why your car is no longer covered in dead insects Food Evolution – Narrated by Neil deGrasse Tyson Food Politics by Marion Nestle » GMO propaganda film: Food Evolution Reducing Salmonella on cantaloupes and honeydew melons using wash practices applicable to postharvest handling, foodservice, and consumer preparation. - PubMed - NCBI Modeling the growth of Listeria monocytogenes on cut cantaloupe, honeydew and watermelon. - PubMed - NCBI Eggs > Guidance for Industry: Prevention of Salmonella Enteritidis in Shell Eggs During Production, Storage, and Transportation https://www.ams.usda.gov/sites/default/files/media/Regulations%20for%20Voluntary%20Grading%20of%20Shell%20Eggs.pdf https://www.fsis.usda.gov/shared/PDF/SE_Risk_Assess_Oct2005.pdf Maryn McKenna | WIRED Beating Back the Devil — Maryn McKenna Tomato Jam Recipe - NYT Cooking National Center for Home Food Preservation | How Do I? Jam and Jelly Metabiotic effect of Bacillus licheniformis on Clostridium botulinum: implications for home-canned tomatoes.

Food Safety Talk 132: Big Pot of Sponge Money

10 augusti 2017 | 127 min

The show starts with a discussion about importance of being on time and time management, and then quickly moves to a discussion of recent and future podcast appearances by Don and Ben. They quickly dive into actual food safety, starting with the discussion about the Food Code and the risks posed by an unenclosed outdoor bar. This is followed by further Food Code discussions related to the importance (or lack thereof) of wearing a head covering if you're bald, and Food Code definitions (or lack thereof) for 'clean' and 'balut'. Listener feedback leads into a discussion of Food Code Annex 3 and the scientific basis of the Food Code. This leads to a discussion of the importance of actually reading the references that you're citing. The guys discuss the comfy cow ice cream recall, and the importance of clear communication with customers. Ben talks about his experience cooking blue apron, and there is further discussion about meal kits safety, specifically on cooking directions. The guys get heated up on the topic of sponge microbiology, which leads to a discussion of junk science on water bottle germs, and "Water Kefir", whatever that might be. The show wraps up with a quick mention of a recent CNN article, and the microbiology of blowing out candles on a birthday cake. * [What Is the Oxford Comma and Why Do People Care So Much About It?](https://www.grammarly.com/blog/what-is-the-oxford-comma-and-why-do-people-care-so-much-about-it/) * [National Lampoon's Christmas Vacation on iTunes](https://itunes.apple.com/US/movie/id296929739) * [Carolina Eagles Hockey](http://www.carolinaeagleshockey.com/) * [conference call bingo - Google Search](https://www.google.com/search?q=conference+call+bingo&client=safari&rls=en&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjCv5z7_czVAhVH4YMKHeIxCVQQsAQILg&biw=1667&bih=997) * [My Food Job Rocks!](http://myfoodjobrocks.com/episodes/) * [Food Safety Magazine podcast](http://www.foodsafetymagazine.com/podcast/) * [StoryCorps – Stories from people of all backgrounds and beliefs](https://storycorps.org/) * [Food Safety Talk 1: Frampton Comes Alive — Food Safety Talk](http://foodsafetytalk.com/food-safety-talk/2011/8/28/food-safety-talk-1-frampton-comes-alive.html) * [Food Safety Talk 0: StoryCorps] (****) * [6th Anniversary: Traditional Gift Ideas and More](https://www.thenest.com/content/sixth-anniversary-traditional-gift-ideas) * [Live from the Poundstone Institute : NPR](http://www.npr.org/podcasts/510322/live-from-the-poundstone-institute) * [Gas Light Co. sues city of Portsmouth over outside deck](http://www.seacoastonline.com/news/20170118/gas-light-co-sues-city-of-portsmouth-over-outside-deck) * [Conference for Food Protection](http://www.foodprotect.org/) * [2013 FDA Model Food Code as pdf](https://www.fda.gov/downloads/Food/GuidanceRegulation/RetailFoodProtection/FoodCode/UCM374510.pdf) * [Utilization of Mathematical Models To Manage Risk of Holding Cold Food without Temperature Control](http://jfoodprotection.com/doi/abs/10.4315/0362-028X.JFP-12-424?code=fopr-site&journalCode=food) * [Quantifying the effect of hand wash duration, soap use, ground beef debris, and drying methods on the removal of Enterobacter aerogenes on hands](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25836392) * [The Case of the Creeping Fox Terrier Clone](https://unbound.com/books/why-did-the-policeman-cross-the-road/updates/the-case-of-the-creeping-fox-terrier-clone) * [Bully for Brontosaurus pdf](http://www.sjgouldessays.com/content/nh_essay_summaries_content/05%20Bully%20for%20Brontosaurus.pdf) * [The Comfy Cow Recalls Pints of Ice Cream Due To Possible E. Coli Contamination and/or High Coliform Counts](https://www.fda.gov/safety/recalls/ucm570565.htm) * [To Our Customers - The Comfy Cow](http://www.thecomfycow.com/comfy-cow-response/) * [Meal kits and food safety | barfblog](http://www.barfblog.com/2017/08/meal-kits-and-food-safety/) * [Who monitors meal kit safety? | WRVO Public Media](http://wrvo.org/post/who-monitors-meal-kit-safety) * [These sponges go to 14 | barfblog](http://www.barfblog.com/2017/08/these-sponges-go-to-14/) * [Microbiome analysis and confocal microscopy of used kitchen sponges pdf](http://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-017-06055-9.pdf) * [Supplementary material for Sponge study](https://static-content.springer.com/esm/art%3A10.1038%2Fs41598-017-06055-9/MediaObjects/41598_2017_6055_MOESM1_ESM.pdf) * [Water Bottle Germs Revealed 2017 from TreadmillReviews.net](http://www.treadmillreviews.net/water-bottle-germs-revealed/) * [Bacterial water quality in the personal water bottles of elementary students](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12353459) * [Water Kefir: How to Brew Water Kefir — Nourished Kitchen](http://nourishedkitchen.com/water-kefir/) * [Water Kefir Benefits & FAQs - Cultures for Health](http://www.culturesforhealth.com/learn/water-kefir/water-kefir-frequently-asked-questions-faq/) * [Filthy food habits: How dirty are they? - CNN](http://www.cnn.com/2017/08/10/health/science-dirty-food-habits-study/index.html) * [Bacterial Transfer Associated with Blowing Out Candles on a Birthday Cake](http://www.ccsenet.org/journal/index.php/jfr/article/view/67217) * [Blowing out birthday candles increases bacteria on cake on USA Today](https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2017/08/03/blowing-out-birthday-candles-increases-bacteria-cake-1-400/536178001/)

Food Safety Talk 131: Downward facing chicken

28 juli 2017 | 93 min

Food Safety Talk 130: This Outbreak is Brought to You by the Letter T

14 juli 2017 | 77 min

Food Safety Talk 129: Unusual Sized Dumper

6 juli 2017 | 105 min

Food Safety Talk 128: It's the Esters, John

21 juni 2017 | 129 min

The show begins with a discussion of Ben's recent travels. From there the discussion moves on to obligatory talk about beverages, Canadian and Philadelphia accents, Apple, and other podcasts. The food safety talk begins in earnest with the discussion about what is meant by the words "risk assessment". From there the discussion turns to "food safety programs", restaurant inspections and what customers might want to know, the humor of David Lloyd, and then back to meat safety and proper thermometer use. The show ends with The Onions humorous take on handwashing water temperature. The After Dark contains the usual nonsense including talk about music videos. * [Caldera - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caldera) * [Yellowstone Supervolcano Hit by a Swarm of More Than 400 Earthquakes in One Week](http://www.newsweek.com/yellowstone-supervolcano-earthquake-swarm-eruption-risk-627189) * [Definition of Dingus by Merriam-Webster](https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/dingus) * [Foley (filmmaking) - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foley_(filmmaking)) * [pamplemousse - Wiktionary](https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/pamplemousse) * [LaCroix Flavors of Sparkling Water, Ranked From Worst to Best - Thrillist](https://www.thrillist.com/drink/nation/la-croix-flavors-sparkling-water) * [HBO: The Wire: Homepage](http://www.hbo.com/the-wire) * [Apple is going to let podcast creators — and advertisers — see what listeners actually like - Recode](https://www.recode.net/2017/6/10/15774936/apple-podcast-analytics-wwdc) * [Merch Save America – Crooked Media](https://getcrookedmedia.com/merch-save-america-5496e5adc995) * [Risk Assessment of Human Listeriosis ](http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/store/10.1111/risa.12649/asset/risa12649.pdf;jsessionid=4594F13E901926E60BF68B54F6E8570A.f03t02?v=1&t=j45ym2x4&s=caa4ca3d042832cf61e99f82c32665f89d7f8173) * [Meat processed overseas, branded Australian faces ban in proposal by Federal crossbenchers](http://www.abc.net.au/news/rural/2017-06-19/mps-propose-australia-branding-ban-for-meat-processed-overseas/8631628) * [Designing a national restaurant inspection disclosure system for New Zealand. - PubMed - NCBI](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22054187) * [Professional Food Manager Practice Quiz - ProProfs Quiz](https://www.proprofs.com/quiz-school/story.php?title=professional-food-manager-practice-exam) * [About Us David Lloyd](https://www.cardiffmet.ac.uk/health/zero2five/about/Pages/David-Lloyd.aspx) * [Lebanese Raw Kibbe Recipe – Kibbeh Nayyeh](http://www.mamaslebanesekitchen.com/meats/lebanese-raw-kibbe-recipe-kibbeh-nayyeh/#sthash.CRMjLJNG.dpbs) * ['Cannibal sandwiches' sicken Wisconsin residents - NBC News](http://www.nbcnews.com/health/cannibal-sandwiches-sicken-wisconsin-residents-2D11703492) * [Meat and Poultry Dialogue - Meridian Institute](http://merid.org/MeatandPoultryDialogue) * [Summer Grilling Graphics - Fight Bac!](http://www.fightbac.org/summer-grilling-graphics/) * [160°F Is Good](https://160isgood.com/) * [Study: Hot Water Not Better For Washing Hands - The Onion - America's Finest News Source](http://www.theonion.com/americanvoices/study-hot-water-not-better-washing-hands-56173) * [The Onion - handwashing post](https://www.facebook.com/TheOnion/posts/10155512816959497) * [Van Halen - Panama (Music Video) - YouTube](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-NshzYK9y0) * [Taylor Swift - Shake It Off - 1989 African Hipster Version ft. Alex Boye Changing Lanes - YouTube](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E6UuoFJZQ_k)

Food Safety Talk 127: A five-second lather

10 juni 2017 | 85 min

Food Safety Talk 126: Deep inside the sauce

28 maj 2017 | 98 min

After a short recap regarding Ben's travels, and fermented food safety, the guys do a deep dive into the nacho cheese sauce linked botulism outbreak, resurfacing eventually to talk about leftovers and pop culture. * [Caddyshack - Gunga Galunga - YouTube](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TkLH56VlKT0) * [The 65 Roses Story](https://www.cff.org/About-Us/About-the-Cystic-Fibrosis-Foundation/The-65-Roses-Story/) * [Chick-fil-A same-sex marriage controversy - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chick-fil-A_same-sex_marriage_controversy) * [Merch Save America - Crooked Media](https://getcrookedmedia.com/merch-save-america-5496e5adc995) * [Martin, Charles Cromwell](https://qormuseum.org/soldiers-of-the-queens-own/171-2/) * [Battle Diary: From D-Day and Normandy to the Zuider Zee and VE](https://www.amazon.ca/Battle-Diary-D-Day-Normandy-Zuider/dp/155002213X/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1329877252&sr=1-1) * [ComBase](http://www.combase.cc/index.php/en/) * [Colorado State Fermented Foods ppt pdf](http://fyi.uwex.edu/safepreserving/files/2015/08/Fermented-Foods_November-2-2015.pdf) * [Survival of Escherichia coli O157:H7, Salmonella enteritidis, Staphylococcus aureus, and Listeria monocytogenes in Kimchi](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15270509) * [Maybe that fermentation ain't working so well, Korea, 2012 - barfblog](http://barfblog.com/2013/06/maybe-that-fermentation-aint-working-so-well-1642-sickened-outbreak-of-e-coli-o169-in-schoolchildren-associated-with-consumption-of-kimchi-korea-2012/) * [Gehls Cheese Sauce Possibly Linked to Valley Oak Food and Fuel Gas Station Nacho Botulism Outbreak](http://www.foodpoisonjournal.com/foodborne-illness-outbreaks/gehls-cheese-sauce-possibly-linked-to-valley-oak-food-and-fuel-gas-station-nacho-botulism-outbreak-10-hospitalized-with-1-death/#.WSLwt1KZMUE) * [Amazon.com: Customer Reviews: Gehl's Premium Nacho Cheese Sauce](https://www.amazon.com/Gehls-Premium-Nacho-Cheese-18-Ounce/product-reviews/B004PENTHI/ref=dp_db_cm_cr_acr_txt?ie=UTF8&showViewpoints=1) * [Amazon.com: GEHL's, Jalapeno Cheese, 80.0 oz.](https://www.amazon.com/GEHLs-Jalapeno-Cheese-80-0-Count/dp/B01NBP7GAN/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_product_sims?ie=UTF8) * [Sierra Peristaltic Cheese Sauce Dispenser - 120V, 200W](https://www.webstaurantstore.com/sierra-peristaltic-cheese-sauce-dispenser-120v-200w/106CD212.html?utm_source=Google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=GoogleShopping&gclid=CNezj7XUg9QCFRc8gQodV2sE5Q) * [Nacho cheese linked to gas station botulism outbreak | barfblog](http://barfblog.com/2017/05/nacho-cheese-linked-to-gas-station-botulism-outbreak/) * [FRI processed cheese article](https://fri.wisc.edu/files/Briefs_File/ProcCheese_May2005_v2.pdf) * [FPT Beverage Dispensers article](https://pdfs.semanticscholar.org/e279/d59f294da52a1fdecd2a74627bdb2bb5b477.pdf) * [Veronica Bryant (@NoroNerd) | Twitter](https://twitter.com/noronerd?lang=en) * [Gehl Foods Recalls Nacho Cheese and Chili Sauce Dispensers Due to Fire and Burn Hazards](https://www.cpsc.gov/Recalls/2009/gehl-foods-recalls-nacho-cheese-and-chili-sauce-dispensers-due-to-fire-and-burn-hazards) * [Dispensers from Gehl Foods](https://www.gehls.com/Dispensers.htm) * [10 hospitalized with botulism tied to nacho cheese](http://www.cnn.com/2017/05/21/health/california-botulism-nacho-cheese/) * [Can you get food poisoning twice in a row, from the same food? | Metro News](http://www.metronews.ca/views/citizen-scientist/2017/05/18/can-you-get-food-poisoning-twice-in-a-row-.html) * [Bruce Vilanch - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bruce_Vilanch)

Food Safety Talk 125: Slapping it on a bun

8 maj 2017 | 116 min

Don and Ben talked big concerts, Flaming Lips (the band, not the anatomy) obscure Canadian bands covering Neil Young and then got into some food safety stuff like the particulars of deer antler tea, with some deer penis sprinkled in. The discussion went to the rules around home-based food businesses and how risk-based decisions are made in regulatory choices. The episode finished with some listener feedback on washing produce and mold and whether food employees at Blue Apron (and like mail-order businesses) should have local health department food handler training. COOLIO Love and Rockets (band) - Wikipedia Pet Sounds - Wikipedia Cover version - Wikipedia Enjoy Every Sandwich: The Songs of Warren Zevon - Wikipedia Borrowed Tunes: A Tribute to Neil Young - Wikipedia Borrowed Tunes II: A Tribute to Neil Young - Wikipedia Day of the Dead (2016 album) - Wikipedia The Flaming Lips and Stardeath and White Dwarfs with Henry Rollins and Peaches Doing The Dark Side of the Moon - Wikipedia Watch The Flaming Lips’ Inner-Band Drama From Portlandia‘s Pickathon Episode - Stereogum Yoshimi Battles the Pink Robots - Wikipedia Molson Canadian Rocks for Toronto - Wikipedia 10 years later: How the Mad Cow crisis changed an industry and a province (with videos) Deer-antler tea linked with botulism case in Orange County | abc7.com Deer Antler to Nourish Blood, Bone, and Joints Steve Harvey, Asian Remedies and Deer Penis – michelle in the kitchen Mailing List - New Jersey Home Bakers Bill NCDA&CS - Food & Drug Protection - Food Program AFDO Cottage Foods pdf AFDO Cottage Foods Presentation Corby.pdf Tragedy as ‘smiling’ baby Tyler Wilson dies of salmonella at five months old | Hull Daily Mail ‘Fry them’ comments in jury room could get Parnells a new trial | Food Safety News Why are salad greens always labeled “triple-washed”? Palumbo et al. article These go to 11.mpg - YouTube Julie Finigan Morris FSIS article on mold safety Parasitic Diseases, 6th Ed — This Week in Parasitism Blue Apron Has “Concerns” Over Proposed Food Safety Regulation - BuzzFeed News Boston’s Chicken & Rice Guys shutdown to “sort out” E. coli outbreak | Food Safety News

Food Safety Talk 124: Talking about Mike Scorpion

20 april 2017 | 101 min

This episode starts with a chat about the need for butter refrigeration, bats and scorpions in leafy greens (oh my). The guys briefly celebrate Ben's birthday before talking about risk attribution, and yet another hot take on the 5 second rule, eating insects on purpose, and "food safety" tips from the internet. They make two book recommendations before talking about rat lungworm and other disgusting things. The show wraps with an example of doing food safety right, and breaking news about doing food safety wrong before a brief dip into pop culture. * [Do you really need to refrigerate butter? - TODAY.com](http://www.today.com/food/do-you-really-need-refrigerate-butter-t110371) * [Show me the data: butter at room temperature edition](http://barfblog.com/2017/04/show-me-the-data-butter-at-room-temperature-edition/) * [Bats in salad is yuck factor stuff; actual illnesses end up lost](http://barfblog.com/2017/04/bats-in-salad-is-yuck-factor-stuff-actual-illnesses-end-up-lost/) * [Dead Bat Found Inside Package of Salad in Florida, Officials Say](https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/04/10/business/walmart-bat-organic-salad.html?smid=tw-nytimes&smtyp=cur&_r=0&referer=) * [Isolation of Salmonella Virchow from a fruit bat (Pteropus giganteus)](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24136382) * [Maryland Woman Finds Live Scorpion in Bag of Spinach ](http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/Couple-Finds-Live-Scorpion-in-Bag-of-Spinach-419101614.html) * [Nena‎- 99 Luftballons - YouTube](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=La4Dcd1aUcE) * [Ranking the disease burden of 14 pathogens in food sources in the United States...](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22980012) * [Alton Brown on the 5-Second Rule](https://www.tastingtable.com/entertain/national/alton-brown-five-second-rule) * [Flour recall: How E. coli in flour can make you sick](http://www.ctvnews.ca/health/bakers-beware-how-e-coli-in-flour-can-make-you-sick-1.3373064) * [Get your fried grasshoppers here: the big hit at Mariners home games](http://www.seattletimes.com/life/food-drink/get-your-fried-grasshoppers-here-the-big-hit-at-mariners-home-games/) * [8 Foods You Shouldn't Reheat (Because They Could Poison You)](http://www.myrecipes.com/healthy-diet/foods-leftovers-not-safe-reheat-poison) * [Feel free to order soup anywhere | Six Tips to Avoid Foodborne Illness When Dining Out](http://www.lifehacker.co.in/jugaad/six-tips-to-avoid-foodborne-illness-when-dining-out/feel-free-to-order-soup-anywhere/slideshow/58009353.cms) * [Kitchen Confidential Updated Edition: Adventures in the Culinary Underbelly](https://www.amazon.com/dp/0060899220/ref=rdr_ext_tmb) * [Heat: An Amateur's Adventures as Kitchen Slave, Line Cook, Pasta-Maker, and Apprentice to a Dante-Quoting Butcher in Tuscany](https://www.amazon.com/Heat-Adventures-Pasta-Maker-Apprentice-Dante-Quoting/dp/1400034477/ref=asap_bc?ie=UTF8) * [Pod Save America on Twitter](https://twitter.com/PodSaveAmerica?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor) * [Rat Lungworm on Hawaii puts produce at risk](http://www.marlerblog.com/case-news/rat-lungworm-on-hawaii-puts-produce-at-risk/#.WPeLv1KZMUE) * [Undercooled meat. Dangerous fish. Health inspectors ding Trump’s Mar-a-Lago kitchen](http://www.miamiherald.com/entertainment/restaurants/article144261894.html) * [AmazonFresh](https://www.amazon.com/AmazonFresh/b?ie=UTF8&node=10329849011) * [Mango Ice Cream Bars Recalled in Georgia due to Salmonella](http://www.foodpoisonjournal.com/food-recall/mango-ice-cream-bars-recalled-in-georgia-due-to-salmonella/#.WPeRMFKZMUE) * [Brockmire](http://www.ifc.com/shows/brockmire)

Food Safety Talk 123: My mom was pissed

4 april 2017 | 107 min

Food Safety Talk 122: Isn't that Ampersand?

24 mars 2017 | 117 min

This episode opens with an interesting discovery about the messages app then quickly veers into popular culture, and almost as quickly back to food safety. Food safety talk on rice and Bacillus cereus is followed by a discussion of the Salmonella in truffle oil outbreak at Fig & Olive restaurants. The discussion then turns to recalls and when to go public. A recent Listeria recall linked to cheese made from pasteurize milk leads to talk about raw milk, followed by a brief segue into North Carolina life, and then on to a recent Lysol ad, and the five second rule. The show wraps up with a discussion of recipe safety, followed by what Ben thinks might be the best after dark ever. Show notes so you can follow along at home: Coolio- Gangster's Paradise Weird Al Yankovic - Amish Paradise Dangerous Minds More Life by Drake TypeShift on the App Store @MerriamWebster Leftover Rice Could Make You Very Sick Prevalence, characterization and growth of Bacillus cereus in commercial cooked chilled foods containing vegetables Investigation of Salmonella Enteritidis Outbreak Associated with Truffle Oil — District of Columbia, 2015 Fig & Olive on barfblog Fig & Olive Settles Majority of Salmonella Poisoning Cases Going public: Why FDA doesn’t share retail outlet information (but should) Bill Hallman, Rutgers University Sargento Cheese Recalled - Colby Cheese Contaminated With Listeria Like Russian Roulette? Try Raw Milk David Gumpert Pod Save America NC woman’s wedding dress accidentally donated to Goodwill Dueling Banjos American Standard Toilet: VorMax “Splatter” Lysol Kitchen Pro TV Commercial, 'Five-Second Rule' - iSpot.tv Lysol and the FTC Yeast Waffles Recipe - Allrecipes.com Evaluating food safety risk messages in popular cookbooks The Checklist Manifesto: How to Get Things Right: Atul Gawande Steve Jobs "BOOM" complete compilation (1992-2010) - YouTube I Love LA, Randy Newman Recipes Just Got Safe with Our New Online Tool Page Not Found | FoodSafety.gov AirPods - Apple Aloksak Durable Film Bags

Food Safety Talk 121: Seesaws and slides

11 mars 2017 | 120 min

Food Safety Talk 120: It's "Sody Pops"

27 februari 2017 | 110 min

* [Makebelieve Help, Old Butchers, and Figuring Out Who You Are (For Now)](http://www.43folders.com/2009/10/22/who-you-are) * [Dishwasher Detergent Soak Cleans Dishes Overnight](http://lifehacker.com/5385784/dishwasher-detergent-soak-cleans-dishes-overnight) * [Soda vs Pop vs. Coke: Who Says What, And Where?](http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/11/12/soda-vs-pop_n_2103764.html) * [Soda Vs. Pop Map](http://www.businessinsider.com/soda-vs-pop-map-2012-7) * [The Pop Shoppe - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Pop_Shoppe) * [Reese's Peanut Butter Cups](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reese's_Peanut_Butter_Cups) * [Gunga Galunga](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TkLH56VlKT0) * [SoftRound 24 Pack Foam Earbud Earpad Ear Bud Pad Replacement Sponge Covers](https://www.amazon.com/SoftRound-Earbud-Replacement-Headsets-T-017-24P/dp/B00DW1X5JC/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1487872520&sr=8-2&keywords=ear+bud+replacement+pads) * [Ron Swanson](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ron_Swanson) * [Tom Haverford](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Haverford) * [Girls (TV series)](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Girls_(TV_series)) * [Last Week Tonight with John Oliver](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Last_Week_Tonight_with_John_Oliver) * [Always Be Closing - Glengarry Glen Ross Movie clip](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AO_t7GtXO6w) * [Fun Kee Jenkins on LinkedIn](https://www.linkedin.com/in/fun-kee-jenkins-025446121/) * [Spicy In Means Spicy Out (pdf)](http://medcraveonline.com/JNHFE/JNHFE-05-00183.pdf) * [Librarian's list of 'predatory' journals reportedly removed due to 'threats and politics'](https://www.insidehighered.com/news/2017/01/18/librarians-list-predatory-journals-reportedly-removed-due-threats-and-politics) * [Impact factor](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Impact_factor) * [h-index](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H-index) * [Family finds live chicken in washroom at Cobourg McDonald's](http://www.northumberlandnews.com/news-story/7152005-family-finds-live-chicken-in-washroom-at-cobourg-mcdonald-s/) * [@MCBazacoPhD onTwitter](https://twitter.com/MCBazacoPhD) * [GOOGLE "blacklists" Natural News](https://investmentwatchblog.com/google-blacklists-natural-news-removes-140000-pages-from-its-index-memory-holes-natural-news-investigative-articles-on-vaccines-pharma-corruption-fraudulent-scie/) * [xkcd: Duty Calls](https://xkcd.com/386/) * [Morgan Hill Restaurant Fined $120K For Serving Tilapia As Petrale Sole](http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2017/02/16/morgan-hill-restaurant-fish-false-advertising-petrale-sole-tilapia/) * [Tests Show Most Store Honey Isn't Honey](http://www.foodsafetynews.com/2011/11/tests-show-most-store-honey-isnt-honey/#.WK8slhiZMUE) * [Andrew Schneider, great journalist and great guy, passes](http://www.foodsafetynews.com/2017/02/137580/#.WK8ssRiZMUE) * [Canadians concerned about food fraud](https://www.dal.ca/news/2017/02/21/canadians-concerned-about-food-fraud.html) * [Yeah, well that's just your opinion man. (Big Lebowski)](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XVCtkzIXYzQ) * [Presser - Wiktionary](https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/presser) * [Melissa McCarthy](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Melissa_McCarthy) * [MDA issues consumer advisory for Dukarani Food Processing products](http://www.mda.state.mn.us/news/releases/2017/nr20170216dukarani.aspx) * [BeFoodSafe.ca](http://befoodsafe.ca/) * [David Simon (@AoDespair) on Twitter](https://twitter.com/AoDespair)

Food Safety Talk 119: It’s Purple, I Visited It

8 februari 2017 | 101 min

Food Safety Talk 118: Hand Size Matters

24 januari 2017 | 102 min

This episode has you covered from the top of your head to the tips of your lucky socks. Ben and Don dig into some 1980's culture and shoot forward into the food on the future, and then back again. It's a food (and pet) safety grab bag covering pineapple safety, hand sizes and hand sanitizers, safe raw cookie dough, rats, turtles, milk from camels, microgreens and toilet history. Here are some links so you can follow along at home. * [Socks](https://www.amazon.com/s/?ie=UTF8&keywords=socks&tag=googhydr-20&index=aps&hvadid=172784669649&hvpos=1t3&hvnetw=g&hvrand=15289779452546695849&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=e&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9003676&hvtargid=kwd-19345770&ref=pd_sl_6e22knv3yz_e) * [Miami Vice](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miami_Vice) * [eero - WiFi](https://eero.com/) * [Dippin' Dots](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dippin'_Dots) * [Sean Spicer's Dippin' Dots Tweets Put Press Secretary On The Spot : NPR](http://www.npr.org/2017/01/23/511278562/dippin-dots-beef-puts-white-house-press-secretary-on-the-spot) * [Dippin' Dots open lettr](https://www.dippindots.com/news/2017/01/Open-Letter-to-Sean-Spicer.html) * [Say Anything... ](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Say_Anything...) * [Ill Communication by Beastie Boys on Apple Music](https://itunes.apple.com/us/album/sure-shot/id724771323?i=724771816) * [Pod Save America](https://getcrookedmedia.com/here-have-a-podcast-78ee56b5a323#.neujn6xky) * [sciencecafes.org](http://www.sciencecafes.org/) * [Science Cafe: You cannot B. cereus: Microbial food safety in the modern world](http://naturalsciences.org/calendar/event/science-cafe-you-cannot-b-cereus-microbial-food-safety-in-the-modern-world/) * [Lunds & Byerlys Pulls 'Fresh-Cut Cored Pineapple' after Voluntary Recall | KSTP.com](http://kstp.com/news/lunds-and-byerlys-recalls-pineapple-listeria-risk-no-illnesses/4376206/) * [Growth Potential of Listeria Monocytogenes and Staphylococcus Aureus on Fresh-Cut Tropical Fruits](http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/1750-3841.13089/abstract) * [USDA Scientists Have Been Put On Lockdown Under Trump](https://www.buzzfeed.com/dinograndoni/trump-usda?utm_term=.we0GMyOvZ#.jdxNq6PR8) * [You Aren't Using Enough Hand Sanitizer](http://www.acsh.org/news/2017/01/10/you-arent-using-enough-hand-sanitizer-10717) * [Hand coverage by alcohol-based handrub varies: Volume and hand size matter](http://www.ajicjournal.org/article/S0196-6553(16)30690-3/abstract) * [Gorge On Cookie Dough In All Its Forms At This NYC Eatery](http://www.konbini.com/us/lifestyle/gorge-on-raw-cookie-dough-cookie-do-nyc/) * [Spaceballs (1987)](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0094012/) * [Not Even Scientists Can Easily Explain P-values](http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/not-even-scientists-can-easily-explain-p-values/) * [CDC: Pet rats linked to virus outbreak](http://www.ksat.com/health/cdc-pet-rats-linked-to-virus-outbreak) * [FDA Bets It Will Escape Coming Political Hurricane, Targets Raw Camel Milk](http://www.davidgumpert.com/3010-2) * [FDA Compliance & Enforcement on Salmonella and Turtle Safety](http://www.fda.gov/AnimalVeterinary/GuidanceComplianceEnforcement/ComplianceEnforcement/ucm090573.htm) [NC rule on pet turtles](http://cph.publichealth.nc.gov/Rules/EpiHealth/10A-NCAC-41A-.0302.pdf) * [The History of 'Toilet' on Merriam-Webster](https://www.merriam-webster.com/words-at-play/word-history-of-toilet) * [Microgreens, Elevator, This Old House](https://www.thisoldhouse.com/watch/ask-toh-microgreens-elevator)

Food Safety Talk 117: Clean Out The Air

14 januari 2017 | 101 min

Food Safety Talk 116: Amusing My Bouche

4 januari 2017 | 104 min

* [Labatts](http://www.labattus.com/) * [Philips goLITE](http://www.usa.philips.com/c-p/HF3332_60/golite-blu-energy-light) * [North Carolina is no longer a democracy](http://andrewgelman.com/2017/01/02/about-that-bogus-claim-that-north-carolina-is-no-longer-a-democracy/) * [QDOBA Mexican Eats](https://www.qdoba.com/) * [How to Start Listening to "Hamilton" via kung fu grippe](http://www.kungfugrippe.com/post/154553607289/hamilton) * [AirPods - Apple](http://www.apple.com/airpods/) * [SONY MDR-7506 Headphones Replacement Ear Pad](https://www.amazon.com/MDR-7506-MDR-CD900ST-Headphones-Replacement-Cushion/dp/B00SIK5TQO/ref=sr_1_fkmr1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1483472803&sr=8-1-fkmr1&keywords=sony+headphones+cushions+mdr+7506) * [Westworld (TV series) - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Westworld_(TV_series)) * [James Marsden - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Marsden) * [The Hilarious World of Depression by American Public Media on iTunes](https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/hilarious-world-depression/id1181589175?mt=2) * [Carrie Fisher](http://carriefisher.com/) * [All the news just repeats itself: Restaurant disclosure proposed for France on barfblog](http://barfblog.com/2016/12/all-the-news-just-repeats-itself-restaurant-disclosure-proposed-for-france/) * [Wendy's Put a Troll on Ice With 2017's Best Tweet So Far](http://www.adweek.com/adfreak/wendys-put-troll-ice-2017s-best-tweet-so-far-175334) * [Safety? Food on iPads on barfblog](http://barfblog.com/2016/12/safety-food-on-ipads/) * [We Want Plates](http://wewantplates.com/) * [Carol Wallace, University of Central Lancashire](http://www.uclan.ac.uk/staff_profiles/carol_wallace.php) * [CSPI petitions undetectable limit of Vibrio vulnificus in molluscan shellfish, FDA says no | barfblog](http://barfblog.com/2016/12/cspi-petitions-undetectable-limit-of-vibrio-vulnificus-in-molluscan-shellfish-fda-says-no/) * [FDA vibrio petition denial](https://cspinet.org/sites/default/files/attachment/FDA%20vibrio%20petition%20denial.pdf) * [Food Safety Talk 115: Features Chico Marx](http://foodsafetytalk.com/food-safety-talk/2016/12/19/food-safety-talk-115-features-groucho-marx) * [Cause of Contra Costa County Thanksgiving Foodborne Illness Outbreak Identified](http://cchealth.org/press-releases/2016/1220-Cause-Thanksgiving-Incident.php) * [Dan Letendre on Twitter](https://twitter.com/LetendreDan/status/816386437813850112) * [Top 10 Food Poisoning Stories of 2016](https://foodpoisoningbulletin.com/2017/top-10-food-poisoning-stories-of-2016/) * [UK's raw milk vending machine outbreak expands; 56 sick](http://www.foodsafetynews.com/2017/01/uks-raw-milk-vending-machine-outbreak-expands-56-sick/#.WGwRlbGZMUE) * [Raw milk advocates make the most of anti-reg mood in U.S.](http://www.foodsafetynews.com/2016/12/raw-milk-advocates-make-the-most-of-anti-reg-mood-in-u-s/#.WGwRxrGZMUF) * [Outbreak Linked to Raw Milk from South Carolina](http://www.foodsafetynews.com/2011/07/eight-sick-in-nc-outbreak-linked-to-sc-raw-milk/#.WGwUQ7GZMUF) * [Blue Bell asks FDA if it can return testing to 'industry norm'](http://www.foodsafetynews.com/2016/12/blue-bell-asks-fda-if-it-can-return-testing-to-industry-norm/#.WGwTTLGZMUE) * [More on Modernist Cuisine and bad microbial food safety; Colbert, careful of Clostridium in the pastrami](http://barfblog.com/2011/03/more-on-modernist-cuisine-and-bad-microbial-food-safety-colbert-careful-of-clostridium-in-the-pastrami/) * [Feds waited 8 months to reveal cucumber Salmonella outbreak](http://www.foodsafetynews.com/2016/12/feds-waited-8-months-to-reveal-cucumber-salmonella-outbreak/#.WGwVVrGZMUE) * [Beth McCoy at SUNY Geneseo](https://www.geneseo.edu/abs/mccoy) * [People I Follow by The MESH on iTunes](https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/people-i-follow/id873082994?mt=2)

Food Safety Talk 115: Features Chico Marx

19 december 2016 | 115 min

Food Safety Talk 114: Food of the Future!

9 december 2016 | 100 min

The recording starts as Ben answers the call in video mode, but things soon get back on track. * [Ingrid Michaelson](http://www.ingridmichaelson.com/) * [Koan - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/K%C5%8Dan) * [Baratza Grinders](https://www.youtube.com/user/Baratzallc1?app=desktop) * [LMGTFY](http://lmgtfy.com/) * [The Crown (TV Series) - IMDb](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt4786824/) * [Gilmore Girls: A Year in the Life (TV Mini-Series 2016) - IMDb](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt5435008/) * [Dan Letendre on Twitter](https://twitter.com/LetendreDan/status/805838905694109696) * [But What If We're Wrong?: by Chuck Klosterman](https://www.amazon.com/But-What-If-Were-Wrong/dp/0399184120) * [Fear Agent - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fear_Agent) * [Big Hero 6 (2014) - IMDb](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2245084/) * [Food porn: People want rare hamburgers yet aren't informed of risks | barfblog](http://barfblog.com/2016/12/food-porn-people-want-rare-hamburgers-yet-arent-informed-of-risks/) * [Craig Ferguson on Keith Richards and The Rolling Stones - YouTube](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s7tCMfzuLyc) * [Matt Shipman (@ShipLives) | Twitter](https://twitter.com/shiplives?lang=en) * [Don't Trust Your Waiter for Food Safety Advice, NC State News](https://news.ncsu.edu/2016/12/waiter-food-safety-2016/) * [More illnesses tied to Antioch Thanksgiving meal](http://www.eastbaytimes.com/2016/11/29/antioch-elder-victims-of-suspected-food-borne-illness-came-from-separate-care-homes/#) * [Church dinner at Legion post on Thanksgiving ends in tragedy | Food Safety News](http://www.foodsafetynews.com/2016/11/church-dinner-at-legion-post-on-thanksgiving-ends-in-tragedy/) * [Cooking for Crowds Curriculum - Instructor Materials, Penn State Extension](http://extension.psu.edu/food/safety/educators/cooking-for-crowds) * [Not the 4-H: 21 confirmed sick with Salmonella in 8 US states from contact with dairy bull calves | barfblog](http://barfblog.com/2016/11/not-the-4-h-21-confirmed-sick-with-salmonella-in-8-us-states-from-contact-with-dairy-bull-calves/) * [Prevalence and Level of Listeria monocytogenes in Ice Cream](http://www.ingentaconnect.com/content/iafp/jfp/2016/00000079/00000011/art00001) * [Infectious Dose of Listeria monocytogenes in Outbreak Linked to Ice Cream, United States, 2015](https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/22/12/16-0165_article) * [Recovery and Growth Potential of Listeria monocytogenes in Temperature Abused Milkshakes Prepared from Naturally Contaminated Ice Cream...](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed?cmd=Retrieve&db=PubMed&list_uids=27242775&dopt=Abstract) * [Salmonella Enteritidis Infections Associated with a Contaminated Immersion Blender at a Camp](http://opensample.info/salmonella-enteritidis-infections-associated-with-a-contaminated-immersion-blender-at-a-camp) * [Older Adults and Food Poisoning](http://www.eatright.org/resource/homefoodsafety/safety-tips/food-poisoning/older-adults-and-food-poisoning) * [Nutrition Tips to Keep the Immune System Strong for People with HIV-AIDS](http://www.eatright.org/resource/health/diseases-and-conditions/hiv-aids/nutrition-and-hiv-aids) * [Blue Bell 483 form](http://www.fda.gov/ucm/groups/fdagov-public/@fdagov-afda-orgs/documents/document/ucm446107.pdf) * [Blue Bell's 483 form response](http://www.fda.gov/ucm/groups/fdagov-public/@fdagov-afda-orgs/documents/document/ucm450509.pdf) * [Edible Dehydrated Zebra Tarantula](https://www.amazon.com/Newport-Jerky-Company-Dehydrated-Tarantula/dp/B01APQ58XC?th=1) * [Insects as the Food of the Future](http://www.ift.org/newsroom/news-releases/2014/june/25/insects-as-the-food-of-the-future.aspx) * [Say Anything... (1989) - IMDb](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0098258/) * [A Chef's Life | Shows | PBS Food](http://www.pbs.org/food/shows/a-chefs-life/) Special test for true friends of the show: Don edited the audio, but it sounds like Ben did. Why?

Food Safety Talk 113: A Tale of Two Outbreaks

28 november 2016 | 115 min

Food Safety Talk 112: Magical little poop nugget

17 november 2016 | 96 min

This birthday themed episode features wide-ranging topics, many based on listener feedback. We briefly touch on election results, and then move (almost) right into food safety. Thanks to everyone for listening and for your feedback. * [Mac - Apple](http://www.apple.com/mac/) * [HoudahSpot software](https://www.houdah.com/houdahSpot/?lang=en) * [First Dubai International Conference on Applied Nutrition - DIFSC](http://www.foodsafetydubai.com/) * [Manpreet Singh](https://ag.purdue.edu/foodsci/Pages/Profile.aspx?strAlias=singh227&intDirDeptID=14) * [The Talk Show Ep. 172, With Special Guest Merlin Mann](http://daringfireball.net/thetalkshow/2016/11/09/ep-172) * [Rutgers 250](http://250.rutgers.edu/) * [Li Ching-Yuen - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Li_Ching-Yuen) * [Li Ching-Yuen: 256-Year-Old Man? : snopes.com](http://www.snopes.com/inboxer/trivia/ching-yuen.asp) * [Cat's Cradle - Sloan, November 16th, 2016](http://www.catscradle.com/event/1218569-sloan-carrboro/) * [Restaurant & Commercial Kitchen Equipment | Alto-Shaam](https://www.alto-shaam.com/en) * [Appendix A to Compliance Guidelines](http://www.fsis.usda.gov/OPPDE/rdad/FRPubs/95-033F/95-033F_Appendix_A.htm) * [D-value (microbiology) - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D-value_(microbiology) * [z value wikipedia - Google Search](https://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=z++value+wikipedia&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8) * [People get "violently ill" from Soylent bars; company stumped](http://arstechnica.com/science/2016/10/reports-of-violent-vomiting-diarrhea-from-bars-has-soylent-on-the-defense/) * [From seaweed to algae: Soylent blames flour for making customers violently ill](http://barfblog.com/2016/11/from-seaweed-to-algae-soylent-blames-flour-for-making-customers-violently-ill/) * [Soylent Thinks It Found What Was Making People Sick: Algae](https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-11-07/soylent-thinks-it-found-what-was-making-people-sick-algae) * [The Wire Clip: Omar "It's all in the game"](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cryMVK1PwuQ) * [Luis Ramirez on Twitter: Dogs at grocery stores that prepare foods...](https://mobile.twitter.com/artedeluis/status/790741141482110977) * [The Grammarphobia Blog: Out of pocket](http://www.grammarphobia.com/blog/2007/05/out-of-pocket.html)

Food Safety Talk 111: The Meat Spot

26 oktober 2016 | 108 min

Food Safety Talk 110: Drumsticks and Cornettos

13 oktober 2016 | 96 min

This week's episode has some audio quality issues towards the end. Listen to find out why. As usual, here are show notes so you can follow along at home. * [Beats by Dre](http://www.beatsbydre.com/headphones/beats-studio-wireless.html) * [AirPods](http://www.apple.com/airpods/) * [Donald Trump Couldn’t Stop Sniffing ... Again](http://theconcourse.deadspin.com/donald-trump-couldn-t-stop-sniffing-again-1787605842) * [Official Toronto Blue Jays Website](http://toronto.bluejays.mlb.com/index.jsp?c_id=tor) * [New York Mets - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York_Mets) * [Licensed to Ill - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Licensed_to_Ill) * [When the Power Is Out - When to Refreeze Frozen Food and When to Throw It Out | NC State University](https://content.ces.ncsu.edu/when-the-power-is-out-when-to-refreeze-frozen-food-and-when-to-throw-it-out) * [Refrigerated Food and Power Outages: When to Save and When to Throw Out | FoodSafety.gov](https://www.foodsafety.gov/keep/charts/refridg_food.html) * [Produce cannot safely be salvaged in flooded areas | Food Safety News](http://www.foodsafetynews.com/2016/08/garden-produce-cannot-safely-be-salvaged-in-flooded-areas/) * [Safely Using Produce from Flooded Gardens, U Wisc.](https://foodsafety.wisc.edu/assets/pdf_Files/Safely%20Using%20Produce%20from%20Flooded%20Gardens.pdf) * [122 report illness after eating Mighty Taco refried beans](http://www.buffalonews.com/city-region/122-report-illness-after-eating-mighty-taco-refried-beans-20161007) * [Growth of Clostridium perfringens during cooling of refried beans. - PubMed](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23043826) * [Salmonella test prompts microgreens recall](http://www.thepacker.com/news/salmonella-test-prompts-microgreens-recall) * [Osage Gardens Inc. Recalls Osage Gardens Organic 2oz Micro Greens Because of Possible Health Risk](http://www.fda.gov/Safety/Recalls/ucm524638.htm?source=govdelivery&utm_medium=email&utm_source=govdelivery) * [Nestlé recalls Drumstick cones after listeria test](http://www.cnn.com/2016/10/10/health/nestle-ice-cream-recall/) * [Nestlé USA Initiates Voluntary Recall Of Nestlé® Drumstick® Club 16 Count Variety and 24 Count Vanilla Pack Due to Possible Health Risk](http://www.fda.gov/Safety/Recalls/ucm524634.htm) * [Nestlé Recall prss release, Drumstick Variety Packs](http://www.nestleusa.com/media/pressreleases/nestle-drumstick-recall) * [Three Flavours Cornetto trilogy - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three_Flavours_Cornetto_trilogy) * [Super Troopers (2001)](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0247745/) * [Star Trek Beyond](https://itunes.apple.com/US/movie/id1128456722) * [Goodnights & Factory Restaurant](http://www.goodnightscomedy.com/) * [AMolecular Evidence of Oysters as Vehicle of Norovirus GII](https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/22/11/16-1171_article) * [Las Cruces, New Mexico - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Las_Cruces,_New_Mexico) * [Grateful Dead - El Paso - 6-26-94 - YouTube](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EfI5Ep4GDK8) * [I’m a Doctor. If I Drop Food on the Kitchen Floor, I Still Eat It](http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/11/upshot/im-a-doctor-if-i-drop-food-on-the-kitchen-floor-i-still-eat-it.html?_r=0) * [Dr. Oz Asks: Is Your Poop Normal or Not? - Sharecare](https://www.sharecare.com/health/digestive-health/article/is-your-poop-normal-or-not)

Food Safety Talk 109: Pooped on an airplane

5 oktober 2016 | 107 min

Food Safety Talk 108: Hyperbole and Fire Ants

20 september 2016 | 101 min

Ben and Don are joined on this episode by special guest John "if I was a rock **star** you would have heard of me" Roderick. John does not like potatoes, but he does ask lots of great questions. * [Water activity - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_activity) * [Clostridium perfringens - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clostridium_perfringens) * [Steak tartare - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steak_tartare) * [Home | Conference on World Affairs | University of Colorado Boulder](http://www.colorado.edu/cwa/) * [Public Health Focus > Bisphenol A (BPA): Use in Food Contact Application](http://www.fda.gov/NewsEvents/PublicHealthFocus/ucm064437.htm) * [Category:Swamps of North Carolina - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Swamps_of_North_Carolina) * John's band, [The Long Winters](http://www.thelongwinters.com/) * [Food Safety Talk 39: Des Moines is Known for their Scallops — Food Safety Talk](http://foodsafetytalk.com/food-safety-talk/2013/5/5/food-safety-talk-39) * [Multistate Outbreak of Salmonella Bareilly and Salmonella Nchanga Infections Associated with Nakaochi Scrape AA or AAA Frozen Raw Tuna from India](http://www.fda.gov/Food/RecallsOutbreaksEmergencies/Outbreaks/ucm298741.htm) * [FDA issues final rule on safety and effectiveness of antibacterial soaps](http://www.fda.gov/NewsEvents/Newsroom/PressAnnouncements/ucm517478.htm) * [Genetically modified food - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genetically_modified_food) * [FDA Food Code](http://www.fda.gov/Food/GuidanceRegulation/RetailFoodProtection/FoodCode/) * [1993 Jack in the Box E. coli outbreak - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1993_Jack_in_the_Box_E._coli_outbreak) To hear more from John, check out his other podcasts [Roderick on the Line](http://www.merlinmann.com/rotl-episodes/) and [Road Work](http://5by5.tv/roadwork).

Food Safety Talk 107: Univalve Mallets

24 augusti 2016 | 75 min

Show note links to follow along at home: * [Publix Super Markets](http://www.publix.com/) * [Lee-Ann Jaykus](https://fbns.ncsu.edu/faculty-directory/lee-ann-jaykus/) * [Michael Roberson](https://www.linkedin.com/in/michael-roberson-97a58a15) * [Wal-Mart's chicken safety program shows significant results](http://www.foodsafetynews.com/2016/08/130453/) * [Serotypes Profile of Salmonella Isolates from Meat and Poultry Products January 1998 through December 2014](http://www.fsis.usda.gov/wps/wcm/connect/3866026a-582d-4f0e-a8ce-851b39c7390f/Salmonella-Serotype-Annual-2014.pdf?MOD=AJPERES) * [Tracing the Origins of Salmonella Outbreaks](http://science.sciencemag.org/content/287/5450/50) * [Serotype distribution of Salmonella isolates from food animals after slaughter differs from that of isolates found in humans](http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11262216) * [Efficacy of Instant Hand Sanitizers against Foodborne Pathogens Compared with Hand Washing with Soap and Water in Food Preparation Settings: A Systematic Review](https://www.researchgate.net/publication/303851072_Efficacy_of_Instant_Hand_Sanitizers_against_Foodborne_Pathogens_Compared_with_Hand_Washing_with_Soap_and_Water_in_Food_Preparation_Settings_A_Systematic_Review) * [An extended model for transfer of micro-organisms via the hands: differences between organisms and the effect of alcohol disinfection.](http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2129313/) * [Five-second rule](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Five-second_rule) * ["Weird Al" Yankovic - White & Nerdy](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N9qYF9DZPdw) * [Scallops Culprit in Hawaii Hepatitis A Outbreak](http://www.marlerblog.com/legal-cases/scallops-culprit-in-hawaii-hepatitis-a-outbreak/) * [Blast from the past: hep A inactivation in scallops](http://barfblog.com/2016/08/blast-from-the-past-hep-a-inactivation-in-scallops/) * [PSY - GANGNAM STYLE](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9bZkp7q19f0) * [Hepatitis A Vaccination | What You Need to Know | CDC](http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/vpd-vac/hepa/public/index.html) * [Scallop - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scallop) * [Effect of lime juice on Vibrio parahaemolyticus and Salmonella enterica inactivation during the preparation of the raw fish dish ceviche](http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23726199) * [Food Safety Talk 39](http://foodsafetytalk.com/food-safety-talk/2013/5/5/food-safety-talk-39) * [I f'ing love science](https://www.facebook.com/IFeakingLoveScience) * [Food Poisoning Expert Reveals 6 Things He Refuses To Eat](http://www.iflscience.com/health-and-medicine/food-poisoning-expert-reveals-6-things-he-refuses-to-eat/all/) * [xkcd: Duty Calls](https://xkcd.com/386/) * [Dole and Listeria: The Shaggy Defense](http://barfblog.com/2016/08/dole-and-listeria-the-shaggy-defense/) * [Leafy greens, listeria, environmental sampling and tragedy](http://barfblog.com/2016/05/leafy-greens-listeria-environmental-sampling-and-tragedy/) * [Compliance Policy Guides - Listeria monocytogenes](http://www.fda.gov/ICECI/ComplianceManuals/CompliancePolicyGuidanceManual/ucm136694.htm) * [Dole Fresh Vegetables Announces Allergy Alert and Voluntary Limited Recall](http://www.fda.gov/Safety/Recalls/ucm412157.htm) * [Washington company linked to Listeria monocytogenes illnesses gets a warning letter](http://barfblog.com/2016/08/washington-company-linked-to-listeria-monocytogenes-illnesses-gets-a-warning-letter/) * [CRF FROZEN FOODS LLC to Oregon Potato Co](https://www.google.com/maps/dir/CRF+FROZEN+FOODS+LLC,+North+Commercial+Avenue,+Pasco,+WA/Oregon+Potato+Co,+6610+W+Court+St,+Pasco,+WA+99301/) * [Multistate Outbreak of Listeriosis Linked to Frozen Vegetables](https://www.cdc.gov/listeria/outbreaks/frozen-vegetables-05-16/) * [Murder on the Orient Express](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_on_the_Orient_Express) * [Tyrell Wellick - Mr. Robot Wikia](http://mrrobot.wikia.com/wiki/Tyrell_Wellick)

Food Safety Talk 106: Mouth spit

16 augusti 2016 | 99 min

Food Safety Talk 105: I'm Level 8, John

27 juli 2016 | 108 min

Food Safety Talk 104: Shorter Stacks!

9 juli 2016 | 104 min

Show notes so you can follow along at home: * [Fox News host Bret Baier grills the Dalai Lama: "Have you ever seen the movie Caddyshack"](http://www.salon.com/2016/06/17/fox_news_host_bret_baier_grills_the_dalai_lama_have_you_ever_seen_the_movie_caddyshack/) * [Caddyshack - Bill Murray's story about the Dalai Lama - YouTube](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X48G7Y0VWW4&feature=youtu.be) * [Toque - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toque) * [Town of Emerald Isle, North Carolina](http://www.emeraldisle-nc.org/) * [Best In Show Nuts Scene - YouTube](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KGmNqzbsuiY) * [Jetsetter TSA Compliant Corkscrew](https://www.amazon.com/Jetsetter-TSA-Compliant-Corkscrew-True/dp/B00HZLA2PA) * [Sper Scientific 800101 IR Thermometer: Industrial & Scientific](https://www.amazon.com/Sper-Scientific-800101-IR-Thermometer/dp/B001EUCTAO) * [Mallrats on iTunes](https://itunes.apple.com/US/movie/id740561396) * [Anova Precision Cooker](http://store.anovaculinary.com/products/anova-precision-cooker) * [Food Safety Talk 79: You're Into Botulism Country (with Merlin Mann) Food Safety Talk](http://foodsafetytalk.com/food-safety-talk/2015/8/6/food-safety-talk-79-youre-into-botulism-country-with-merlin-mann?rq=merlin) * [(((Rich Anderson))) on Twitter: "So, cooked some marinara in the slow cooker...](https://twitter.com/sanspoint/status/745380253841907712) * [FSIS: Slow Cookers and Food Safety](http://www.fsis.usda.gov/wps/portal/fsis/topics/food-safety-education/get-answers/food-safety-fact-sheets/appliances-and-thermometers/slow-cookers-and-food-safety/ct_index) * [NCHFP on greenbeans](http://nchfp.uga.edu/publications/nchfp/factsheets/greenbeans.html) * [The "Danger Zone" Reevaluated - Food Safety Magazine](http://www.foodsafetymagazine.com/magazine-archive1/februarymarch-2004/the-danger-zone-reevaluated/) * [Cost Effectiveness of Vaccinating Food Service Workers against Hep A](http://www.ingentaconnect.com/content/iafp/jfp/2000/00000063/00000006/art00012) * [Stroopwafel - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stroopwafel) * [Crepe - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cr%C3%AApe) * [NACMCF Inoculated Pack report](http://www.fsis.usda.gov/wps/wcm/connect/3b52f9c0-0585-4c0a-abf2-b4fc89a9668c/NACMCF_Inoculated_Pack_2009F.pdf?MOD=AJPERES) * [Joell Eifert, Virginia Tech](https://www.fst.vt.edu/aboutus/faculty/eifert_joell/index.html) * [The FDA's abstinence-only approach to eating cookie dough is unrealistic and alarmist](http://www.slate.com/blogs/browbeat/2016/07/01/the_fda_s_abstinence_only_approach_to_eating_cookie_dough_is_unrealistic.html) * [Journalism needs expertise, not shrill, to survive: ‘FDA’s abstinence-only approach to eating cookie dough is unrealistic and alarmist’](http://barfblog.com/2016/07/journalism-needs-expertise-not-shrill-to-survive-fdas-abstinence-only-approach-to-eating-cookie-dough-is-unrealistic-and-alarmist/) * [Chipotle's stock down after claims of another food poisoning - Business Insider](http://www.businessinsider.com/chipotles-stock-down-after-reports-of-another-food-poisoning-2016-7) * [The Big Short on iTunes](https://itunes.apple.com/us/movie/the-big-short/id1061320456) * [Veronica Bryant (@NoroNerd) | Twitter](https://twitter.com/noronerd)

Food Safety Talk 103: Like Wolverine

3 juli 2016 | 114 min

Food Safety Talk 102: Flour Power

3 juni 2016 | 113 min

Links for topics discussed on this episode: * [Jeffrey LeJeune](https://vet.osu.edu/about-us/people/jeffrey-lejeune) * [NC State University](https://www.ncsu.edu/) * [WWDC - Apple Developer Conference](https://developer.apple.com/wwdc/) * [No 5K Thunderbolt Display With Integrated GPU Coming at WWDC - Mac Rumors](http://www.macrumors.com/2016/06/02/no-5k-thunderbolt-display-with-gpu-wwdc/) * [This column will change your life: structured procrastination](http://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2012/sep/07/change-your-life-procrastination-burkeman) * [Sassy STEC (@sassy_stec) on Twitter](https://twitter.com/sassy_stec) * [Multistate Outbreak of Shiga toxin-producing Escherichia coli O121 Infections Linked to Flour](http://www.cdc.gov/ecoli/2016/o121-06-16/index.html) * [General Mills: Flour recall](http://www.generalmills.com/flour) * [General Mills announces voluntary flour recall blog post](http://blog.generalmills.com/2016/05/general-mills-announces-flour-recall/?_ga=1.100726658.2031043415.1464963099) * [FDA Continues to Warn Against Eating Raw Dough for Cookies or Other Raw Dough Products before Cooking](http://www.fda.gov/Food/ResourcesForYou/Consumers/ucm198037.htm) * [June 25, 2009: Multistate Outbreak of E. coli O157:H7 Infections](http://www.cdc.gov/ecoli/2009/0625.html) * [10 Million Pounds of Frozen Snacks Recalled via L.A. Weekly](http://www.laweekly.com/restaurants/10-million-pounds-of-frozen-snacks-recalled-2893534) * [Pizza Ranch linked to E. coli outbreak in nine states](http://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/news/health/2016/03/16/pizza-ranch-linked-e-coli-outbreak-nine-states/81858786/) * [Outbreak of E. coli O121 Linked to Frozen Snack Products via Food Safety News](http://www.foodsafetynews.com/2013/03/mini-snack-products-recalled-for-e-coli-risk/#.V1GSx8ekiaE) [Ardent Mills Flour Food Safety White Paper](http://www.ardentmills.com/uploads/Ardent_Mills_Flour_Food_Safety_White_Paper.pdf) * [Sperber flour article from Journal of Food Protection](http://www.ingentaconnect.com/contentone/iafp/jfp/2007/00000070/00000004/art00036?crawler=true) * [Food Safety Summit slides by FDA's Mickey Parish](http://foodsafetysummit.com/images/2016ppt/Session20_MickeyParish.pdf) * [Recovery and Growth Potential of Listeria monocytogenes in Temperature Abused Milkshakes Prepared from Naturally Contaminated Ice Cream Linked to a Listeriosis Outbreak](http://journal.frontiersin.org/article/10.3389/fmicb.2016.00764/full) * [Justin Trudeau pays tribute to Tragically Hip frontman Gord Downie](http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/justin-trudeau-gord-downie-1.3613169) * [Apple sends out press invites for WWDC 2016, confirms 10AM PT keynote on June 13 | 9to5Mac](http://9to5mac.com/2016/06/01/apple-sends-out-press-invites-for-wwdc-2016-confirms-10am-pt-keynote-on-june-13/) * [Aeropress Inverted Method](http://www.moustachecoffeeclub.com/aeropress-inverted-method-how-to-brew)

Food Safety Talk 101: The Dalmatian episode

10 maj 2016 | 124 min

Show notes so you can follow along at home. The Talk Show ✪: Ep. 153, With Ben Thompson The Aerobie® AeroPress® Coffee Maker Amazon.com: Porlex Mini Stainless Steel Coffee Grinder: Manual Coffee Grinders: Kitchen & Dining Beeturia The bowel movement beet test: How to measure your digestive ‘transit time’ Beets & Blood in the Stool John Oliver exposes how the media turns scientific studies into “morning show gossip” - Vox xkcd: Significant Quantifying the effect of hand wash duration, soap use, ground beef debris, and drying methods on the removal of Enterobacter aerogenes on hands Frozen produce recall, expanded. Multistate Outbreak of Listeriosis Linked to Frozen Vegetables CDC CRF Frozen Foods Expands Voluntary Recall to Include All Frozen Vegetable and Fruit Products Due To Possible Health Risk Green Giant? Valley Fresh Steamers? Select Whole Green Beans 12 oz. Bag - Walmart.com Parmesan-Garlic Butter Green Beans recipe from Betty Crocker Allrecipes reveals the enormous gap between foodie culture and what Americans actually cook. Rewashing triple-washed greens at home can only increase risk of foodborne illness Why are salad greens always labeled “triple-washed”? Will the Justice Department look at Dole’s history of recalls and outbreaks? Dole knew of Listeria; feds launch criminal investigation | Food Safety News Dole 483 Food Industry’s Current and Future Role in Preventing Microbial Foodborne Illness within the United States Drake on iTunes Rush - YYZ YKK Group The Night Manager (TV Mini-Series 2016) Storytelling engages the brain; even in podcasts Podcasts Surge, but Producers Fear Apple Isn’t Listening Apple’s actual role in podcasting: be careful what you wish for – Marco.org Chris Sacca OMilk - Vegan Almond & Cashew Milks - Brooklyn Unpacking @AcademicsSay: Part 1 | SAS Confidential Shitexpress · Send shit in a box to someone, stay anonymous, pay with Bitcoin/PayPal Emerging Infectious Diseases by Centers for Disease Control and Prevention on iTunes PRX » Station » WRVO Public Media Behind CDC’s Raw Milk Probe: More Doubts About CA Illness - David Gumpert Roderick on the Line - Merlin Mann 5by5 | Road Work

Food Safety Talk 100: No buns in the bathroom

29 april 2016 | min

In keeping with our current practive, here is a bulleted list of link to the topics we mentioned on the show: Cyndi Lauper - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Caddyshack (1980) - IMDb Gunga Galunga clip on YouTube Veronica Bryant (@NoroNerd) on Twitter Conference for Food Protection - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Noro Couch (@norocouch) on Twitter Barbara Kowalcyk and CFI Farm To Table Talk podcast, @FarmToTableTalk on Twitter A Pissed-Off Tampa Chef Explains The “Farm To Fable” Controversy on Food Republic At Tampa Bay farm-to-table restaurants, you’re being fed fiction, Farm to Fable from the Tampa Bay Times Farm to Fable discussion featuring Laura Reiley on Farm To Table Talk podcast on SoundCloud What is Community Supported Agriculture (CSA)? Philly's newest takeout option: Food from a stranger's kitchen Omar "It's all in the game" on YouTube 2016 Biennial Meeting of the Conference for Food Protection ‎Conference for Food Protection, Issues for Council I pdf, Ben's issue was 2016 I-037 ‎Conference for Food Protection, Issues for Council III pdf, Ben's issue was 2016 III-017 The Right Way to Wash Your Hands according to the WSJ, anyway A Pragmatic Randomized Controlled Trial of 6-Step vs 3-Step Hand Hygiene Technique in Acute Hospital Care in the United Kingdom A meta-analysis of the published literature on the effectiveness of antimicrobial soaps Daring Fireball comment on Dyson Hand Dryers post on Ars Joe Smith's excellent TED talk on How to use a paper towel Using a Dyson hand dryer is like setting off a viral bomb in a bathroom from Ars Technica Evaluation of the potential for virus dispersal during hand drying: a comparison of three methods from the Journal of Applied Microbiology Big Tissue wants you to believe bathroom hand dryers spread disease. Here's what science says. from Vox Julia Belluz (@juliaoftoronto) onTwitter Effects of 4 hand-drying methods for removing bacteria from washed hands: a randomized trial. Hamburger buns found stored next to toilet at Checkers restaurant fromWRCBtv.com Everyone’s got a camera: Hamburger buns stored next to toilet at Tennessee Checkers from barfblog NoroCORE

Food Safety Talk 99: Are you familiar with the Haugh Unit?

13 april 2016 | 101 min

Food Safety Talk 98: Klouty with a chance of meatballs

11 april 2016 | 101 min

Food Safety Talk 97: One Maritime province at a time

31 mars 2016 | 113 min

Food Safety Talk 96: Boom goes the dynamite

29 mars 2016 | 106 min

Food Safety Talk 95: What’s the right number of logs?

16 mars 2016 | 103 min

Food Safety Talk 94: Bagpiping hot

13 mars 2016 | 102 min

Food Safety Talk 93: Does your dog poop outside?

7 mars 2016 | 110 min

Food Safety Talk 92: So we can't use that rice?

4 mars 2016 | 106 min

Food Safety Talk 91: Chipotle: The musical

3 mars 2016 | 87 min

Food Safety Talk 90: What if it's a service dragon?

25 februari 2016 | 76 min

Food Safety Talk 89: On a scale from 1 to 11

24 februari 2016 | 69 min

Food Safety Talk 88: Canadian Halloween

18 februari 2016 | 106 min

Food Safety Talk 87: A blue ribbon and $10 competition

15 februari 2016 | 98 min

Food Safety Talk 86: Low viscosity vomit

19 januari 2016 | 111 min

In an effort to get caught up and get some shows out, we have elected to post today show notes in a more old school style. * [Tripe](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tripe) * [Andouille](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andouille) * [Skype Outage: An Update, and an Apology](http://blogs.skype.com/2015/09/22/skype-outage-an-update-and-an-apology/) * [iOS 9 - What’s New](http://www.apple.com/ios/whats-new/) * [watchOS 2 review](http://www.imore.com/watchos-2-review) * [Yogi Berra - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yogi_Berra) vs. [Yogi Bear - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yogi_Bear) * [Amazon.com: Moneyball: The Art of Winning an Unfair Game](http://www.amazon.com/Moneyball-The-Winning-Unfair-Game/dp/0393324818) * [New Jersey Institute for Food, Nutrition, and Health](http://ifnh.rutgers.edu/) * [Multistate Outbreak of Salmonella Poona Infections Linked to Imported Cucumbers](http://www.cdc.gov/salmonella/poona-09-15/) * [Foodborne disease under reporting graphic](http://barfblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/burden.foodborne.reporting.png) * [Epi Curves for Multistate Outbreak of Salmonella Poona Infections Linked to Imported Cucumbers](http://www.cdc.gov/salmonella/poona-09-15/epi.html) * [Case Count Maps for Multistate Outbreak of Salmonella Poona Infections Linked to Imported Cucumbers](http://www.cdc.gov/salmonella/poona-09-15/map.html) * [Statement from Andrew and Williamson on Cucumber Recall](http://www.andrew-williamson.com/About_Us/Recall_2.html) * Where is [Baja California](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baja_California)? * [Physicochemical factors affecting the rapid bactericidal efficacy of the phenolic antibacterial triclosan](http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18494867) * [David and Goliath by Malcolm Gladwell](https://itunes.apple.com/us/book/david-and-goliath/id599651578?mt=11) * [The Cringing Point on kung fu grippe](http://www.kungfugrippe.com/post/205874392/surprise-surprise) * [Antibacterial soap has poor killing power](http://www.rsc.org/chemistryworld/2015/09/antibacterial-soap-triclosan-has-poor-killing-power), sort of. * [Health officials investigating Salmonella cases linked to Chipotle restaurants in Minnesota](http://barfblog.com/2015/09/45-sick-health-officials-investigating-salmonella-cases-linked-to-chipotle-restaurants-in-minnesota/) * [Chipotle is the target of a brutal new attack ad](http://www.businessinsider.com/chipotle-is-the-target-of-a-brutal-new-attack-ad-2015-9) * What is the [Center for Consumer Freedom](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Center_for_Consumer_Freedom), via Wikipedia (never wrong) * [Audits and inspections are never enough: A critique to enhance food safety](http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0956713512004409) * [Health department inspection criteria more likely to be associated with outbreak restaurants in Minnesota](http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23127710) * [Scientists Create Vomiting Machine To Learn How Norovirus Spreads](http://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2015/08/19/432770292/scientists-create-vomiting-machine-to-learn-how-norovirus-spreads) * [Aerosolization of a Human Norovirus Surrogate, Bacteriophage MS2, during Simulated Vomiting](s) * [Evidence for airborne transmission of Norwalk-like virus (NLV) in a hotel restaurant](http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10982072) * [Krispy Kreme Challenge | 2400 Calories, 12 Doughnuts, 5 Miles, 1 Hour](http://www.krispykremechallenge.com/), then barf * [The origins of the term 86](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/86_(term)) * The very lovely [Good Lovelies](http://www.goodlovelies.com/)

Food Safety Talk 85: I'm the jerky police

18 december 2015 | min

Ben and Don host a special guest, Dan Benjamin, podcasting pioneer and founder of 5by5, the inspiration for Food Safety Talk. After sharing what they were eating (because that makes for a good podcast) and Ben and Don tell the Food Safety Talk origin story about Episode Zero as part of the IAFP 100 year anniversary StoryCorps project. The guys talk with Dan about the podcast content niche, who the community of listeners are (both inside and outside the food safety world). The conversation moves into how Don is food safety expert to the podcasting stars and the guys talk about some of the risk assessment questions Dan and Haddie text Don that usually start with ‘Can she eat this?' The discussion goes into kids getting sick, spurred by Dan’s children coming home with gastro illnesses. Don and Ben each have stories about taking care of vomiting children. The guys talk about Immunity, resistance and probabilities of feces being positive, transfer and introduction into the body. Don describes how risk modeling calculations work taking all the factors into account. Dan tells an analogous story about immunity and his grandfather’s metallurgy job. The guys use a hypothetical situation of a child projectile vomiting into someones mouth to help explain acquired immunity and vaccinations. Dan’s child illness discussion pushes the guys into CDC’s Infection control guidelines and restaurant food handlers and glove use. Dan tells a detailed story of his son’s vomiting event which includes norovirus, rotavirus, oatmeal, sink disposal, aerosolization, infection control, clean-up and incubation. A norovirus outbreak at Chipotle becomes a topic and the guys talk about brand impacts of an outbreak. The hygiene hypothesis makes an appearance as does brain eating amoebas. Dan describes Ben as the jerky police which goes back to an interview Ben did on 5by5 where they talked about risks associated with drying beef without heat treating. Dan gives hints on his super special recipe. The guys talk dehydrating manufacturers instructions (which may or may not be validated), water activity, Shigatoxin-producing E. coil and marinades. Don and Ben come up with a plan for a jerky how-to podcast and website fusing some of the validation studies (including one from our friends Harrison and Harrison).

Food Safety Talk 84: All the Great Journals

6 december 2015 | 108 min

Food Safety Talk 83: Many peoples' thermometers

3 december 2015 | 81 min

Food Safety Talk, a bi-weekly podcast for food safety nerds, by food safety nerds. The podcast is hosted by Ben Chapman and barfblog contributor Don Schaffner, Extension Specialist in Food Science and Professor at Rutgers University. Every two weeks or so, Ben and Don get together virtually and talk for about an hour. They talk about what’s on their minds or in the news regarding food safety, and popular culture. They strive to be relevant, funny and informative — sometimes they succeed. You can download the audio recordings right from the website, or subscribe using iTunes. After establishing that Joni Mitchell is not dead and Nova Scotia is New Scotland the guys jump into food safety of microgreens. There is a wide range of microgreens available. One microgreen company Fresh Origins describes over 400 different types of greens products and has a cursory mention food safety on their website. The guys attempt to clarify the confusing world of sprouts, microgreens, and hydroponic techniques. There is a difference between sprouts and microgreens; Sprouts are sprouted seeds whereas microgreens are often sprouted once and then harvested repeatedly. There are also many different hydroponic designs where plants are rooted in a non-soil substrate and fed by circulated nutrient containing water. Hydroponic production can be done safely but does not guarantee safe food. A lot of circulating nutrient rich water allows bacteria to grow and move around. As with sprouts, the seeds used for microgreens combined with the growing conditions, does create risk of pathogen growth as described in this paper (STEC survival in microgreens). The guys talk Listeria in produce and the challenges of risk assessments. Don is going to a Produce Safety policy conference where he will give a talk on assessing public health risk for product associated Listeria monocytogenes exposure. A 2003 risk assessment ranked Listeria in produce as low risk however produce recently affected by listeria are caramel apples, cantaloupe, and stone fruit and this shows that risk assessments can become outdated. New information is always becoming available, for example, Listeria growth on the outside of cantaloupe at room temperature. The data is also getting more applicable as researchers now appreciate the importance of using relevant strains. Ben and Don discuss consumer recommendations lagging behind food safety science. For example the California Cantaloupe Advisory Board a ‘sliced melon should be stored in the refrigerator until it is ready to be eaten’ while data support a recommendation more similar to deli meats. Something like: if you don’t know your refrigerator’s temperature, eat deli meats and sliced cantaloupe within 2 days; if you know it holds food below 41F, you have 4 days. Ben and Don talked about visiting Austin and the 5by5 studios. And if you are in Texas try to eat at Torchy’s tacos. The guys talk about food retail and Ben gets on a rant about how when people talk about food safety culture they don’t quite get it. Ben describes a frustrating situation he encountered at a food safety meeting: food safety nerds reporting that decision makers respond to perceived risks more strongly than public health risks. Like one retailer spending more resources on hairnets than norovirus control because hair is what their CEO perceives as an issue.

Food Safety Talk 82: Late Breaking Golf

13 oktober 2015 | 99 min

Food Safety Talk 81: Food safety matters every week

7 oktober 2015 | 76 min

After a brief discussion about Quadrophenia, the guys thankfully decide to not sing this episode. Ben mentions that the last video store in the Raleigh area is closing. This led to some discussion about the job security of academic careers where Don stated, ‘prediction is very difficult especially about the future.’ Spurred by Ben’s short visit to Baltimore, the guys then discuss how awesome The Wire is. Don mentions a perspective by David Simon, the Wire’s creator, on the real life situation in Baltimore. Ben was recently in Baltimore for the Food Safety Summit. A nod goes out to Brian Saunders for doing a good job of boots on the ground coverage of what’s going on in Baltimore during the Food Safety Summit. Don recommends Acorn TV for anyone interested in British TV. This subscription service has British programming not typically shown on US TV. At the Acorn website Ben spotted Time Team an archeology reality series that he thinks his kids would love. This week Ben talks about media interviews and a focus on multiple food safety stories all hitting at the same time. He talked a cutting boards post on barfblog that garnered some attention. He also fielded inquires regarding the Blue Bell Listeria outbreak . Ben noted that Blue Bell announced they are recalling all the ice cream. A tragic botulism outbreak linked to a church potluck in Ohio was also a topic in multiple media outlets. The potluck outbreak was linked to home-canned potatoes but the coverage prompted a side conversation about bot and foil-wrapped baked potatoes. Looking ahead to future food outbreaks Ben mentions that a bill was introduced in North Carolina to legalize raw milk. This bill would allow consumers to legally acquire raw milk via a cow share mechanism. In this article Ben is quoted challenging an inappropriate comparison of raw milk outbreak data by the bill’s sponsor. In After Dark Don shames Ben for not listening to Roderick on the Line. Again. - 30 -

Food Safety Talk 80: Literally the hummus I'm eating

19 september 2015 | min

Food Safety Talk 79: You’re Into Botulism Country (with Merlin Mann)

7 augusti 2015 | 76 min

Food Safety Talk 78: Brogues are low risk

7 juli 2015 | 96 min

Food Safety Talk 77: Sous vide is French for under vacuum

18 juni 2015 | 90 min

Food Safety Talk 76: Get 'em really hot

15 maj 2015 | 101 min

This episode starts with a discussion of Ben’s taste in music, and they quickly move onto talking documentaries. Ben recently watched Jodorowsky’s Dune, on Don’s recommendation. This documentary has some ‘artful nudity’ that leads to a discussion of perverts on airplanes and the appropriateness of reading material such as Fifty Shades of Grey while crammed into an airplane seat. The conversation naturally transitioned into a discussion of microphone stands and coffee. Ben notes that owning a Nespresso machine has changed his life; he ranks it among his top 10 life changing things (including his wife and children). The guys then discuss other pop-culture topics including Deflate-Gate and TV shows The Affair, Portlandia (which had an episode satirizing raw milk), and Garfunkel and Oates. Note that Portlandia is required viewing before attending IAFP 2015 in Portland this summer Ben leads off the actual food safety talk by mentioning sprouts and the number of outbreaks associated with them. The guys then discuss experiments to validate sprout cooking processes including charred bean sprouts. Ben then brings up the idea of baking cookies in a car and a visit from Linda Harris (who now download and listens). From there the talk turns to pathogen reduction validations for baking processes spurred by Wegmans recall of baked fruit desserts last summer, presumably because they contained peaches recalled for Listeria. The FDA’s Reportable Food Registry, along with CDC whole genome sequencing of pathogens, is enabling more illnesses to be linked to products, as seen in Salmonella Braenderup linked to nut butter. Ben predicts more businesses will have to issue recalls because of validation issues, and the investigations that accompany these recalls will isolate pathogens from within facilities that can be linked to other illnesses which have occurred over months and years prior. The discussion then turns to the very bad blizzard that New Jersey never had. Don discusses the similarities between the models for weather forecasting and models in food safety. Both situations have consequences for over or under reacting; both present risk management and risk communication difficulties. A tweet from The New Yorker made Don mad: Bill Marler may be all that stands between you and Salmonella. This resulted in Don tweeting back to The New Yorker. Ben mentioned it was probably just Betteridge’s Law of Headlines. Bill Marler is probably not all that stands between you and Salmonella; as there are a few more people trying to do the right thing. The guys then go on to discuss how Marler and Caroline Smith DeWaal, a lawyer with the Center for Science in the Public Interest, have become controversial food safety personalities over the years. Don recently was quoted in an article about the safety of various cuts of meat (and Barfblogged here). Don and Ben were so happy Don was quoted correctly, they were able to ‘ding’ their podcast-bell; a virtual high-five. Pork has a reputation for being dangerous but decreases in incidences of Trichinella and Americans tendency to overcook pork have reduced the actual risk, so Ben wanted to discuss a recent MMWR Trichinellosis report. Don mentions ‘The Batz Report’ which determined the top 10 pathogen-food combinations with the greatest burden in public health. This led to a discussion of sample size, detection limits, consumption rates, and risk messaging, leading to the conclusion that cultural practices in food preparation adds complexity to the determination of risk.

Food Safety Talk 75: 76 Trombones

29 april 2015 | 101 min

At the start of this episode Don is very annoyed because he bought a microphone stand, carried it to various continents without using it, and now he cannot find it. In its absence he has resorted to using a hat. The podcast opens with discussion about making podcasts. A listener asked how episode titles are selected in response to the title of Food Safety Talk episode 68: “We found it in Wild Pig Feces”. The process for podcast title selection is to look for random, out of context phrases from the show, text about them 30-40 times to select one, and lastly make sure it isn’t too long. One of Ben’s students, Lily Yang, also expressed interest in podcasting. He advised she can learn a lot by studying other podcasts. Recommended podcasts are Merlin and Dan’s Back to Work podcast on 5by5 and the WTF podcast especially the episode with RuPaul. Another resource is The Podcast Method website. The focus of this episode was professionals making poor risk management decisions. A health inspector from the Nova Scotia Department of Agriculture tried to stop a mother from breastfeeding in her farmer’s market booth despite the fact that she had proper hand washing facilities. The department later apologized. Ben and Don applaud the well-reasoned response the mother, Tanessa Holt gave. Additional excitement brought to you by the 'Theater of Public Health’ includes a middle school in New Jersey was closed because a staff member had C. difficile . Ben provides an historic example of risk management vs. communication virucidal footbaths were installed at airports in response to foot and mouth disease outbreak with the understanding that they were not effective. The guys talk about how there is often a lack of data to inform risk, for example with the proposed use of hand sanitizer between handling money and then food. Or maybe the data does exist, but isn't at the forefront of public health recommendations (the removal of tomato stem scar). Ben and Don talk about gaps existing between regulations and practical ideas for implementation. Don found Rutgers dining hall did not have a vomit clean up plan and the Food Code is lacking specific best practices. One good resource for vomit clean up is here. The conversation turned to public perceptions of food risks. Food safety professionals are perhaps not proactive about correcting public misperceptions. A counter example is South Dakota soybean producers who aim to correct misperceptions people have about GMOs and pesticides through a new advertising campaign. Don talks about an interview question related to safest cuts of meat. Regarding food safety ranking Mike Batz has created a top ten list of food-pathogen combinations. For better or worse, the Mother Jones article is here. In recall news, Chipotle took a pork carnitas off of their menu because they suspend a pork supplier due to animal welfare concerns. Lastly, Don received an urgent voicemail from the department administrator to sign a very important document and stated that 'lack of planning on other peoples part does not does not constitute an emergency on my part.'

Food Safety Talk 74: Lait de Poo

3 april 2015 | min

Don and Ben start the show by talking about the drastic weather in Raleigh, NC and Freehold, NJ. They quickly changed topics to beverage preferences, including Starbucks and eggnog. Ben notes he is not a fan of eggnog although his grandparents used to drink consistently. Ben also reminisces about other old-timey eating habits including pickled beets, and buttermilk. Don will stick with eggnog plus whiskey during the holiday season. Ben shared his excitement about a Sloan concert that he recently attended with his wife. Ben also mentioned a thoughtful gift that he received from his wife: a poet (Matthew) wrote a poem for Ben on the topic of barf and Ben was very thrilled. Don also shared his excitement as well as he recently celebrated his birthday, and Merlin gave him a shout out on his podcast. Twenty minutes in, food safety talk officially began and Ben commented on a blog post where the interviewed the research chief of ABC Research laboratories. She was interviewed about raw honey and recommended honey pasteurization to prevent infant botulism. Ben disagreed with her statement, and noted that pasteurization does not destroy the spores present in honey. Don supported Ben and added that pasteurization is even less effective in low water activity foods like peanut butter or honey. According to this fact sheet, honey is pasteurized to reduce the likelihood of fermentation and crystallization over time. Don turned the topic to Ebola in the US, and mentioned Peter Sandman’s post on The public health establishment and the quarantine debate. Sandman complained about how the US handled the Ebola issue. Ben agreed with some (not all) of the post and concluded that risk talk should always be frank. From Ebola the topic turned to Hepatitis E as an emerging foodborne disease. A UK article stated, 1 in 10 sausage carries the risk of Hepatitis E, which seems high to Ben and Don. Don thought that Hepatitis E in the UK might be a worker sanitation issue. Both guys were intrigued by the apparent low risk of Hepatitis E in the US. Peer reviewed research published in Epidemiology and Infection states that Hepatitis E is associated with unprocessed sausage, and 90% of British pigs have exposed to Hepatitis E and produce antibodies. Cooking suggestion including cooking for 20 min at 70 °C or better yet, using a thermometer. Don mentioned a recent contact by a local company asking about safe practices for cooked brown rice preparation. Although the company had a detailed and meticulous workflow, additional information (like product time and temperature) would be needed to insure control of Bacillus cereus, according to Ben. The show concluded with talk about the Month-Long Poop Cruise, the verdict in the Peanut Corporation of America case and the food safety mess in Pro Sports.

Food Safety Talk 73: I Wish They'd Wash Their Hands More

2 mars 2015 | 93 min

This show starts with Don and Ben talking about the number-six item on their list of things to discuss for the episode: Yosemite and how beautiful it is; Ben rates it at three thermometers, a rating system they invented. Ben’s favorite thermometer is the Comark PDT300, even though someone sent him a ThermoWorks Thermapen which is Don’s favorite. Ben’s hockey team has been using thermometers when the grill sausages, this is what Ben’s contribution to the grill-outs. Ben gets chirped for being the guy who brings the thermometer to the hockey grill. Ben is now supplying thermometers to other hockey guys. Don talks about his lunch date with a podcast celebrity from the 5by5 network. Don tells the whole story about flying business class from Brazil to Texas then while in Texas, buying comic books and having lunch with Dan Benjamin. Dan asked Don lots of food safety questions; they didn’t talk much about 5by5. After this, Don attended the NoroCORE Food Virology meeting with Ben (the guys talked in real life, not just over Skype). The conversation then turns to food safety culture and what that really means as it is in the literature. Ben talks about a conversation he had about food safety culture with a person trying to develop a presentation on food safety culture for farmers. Don shares an email from Doug about food safety concerns at [insert big company name] that shared a Dropbox video of text and images displaying poor food safety. The guys then talk about the difficulties of creating a food safety culture when no one thinks it’s important. Ben talks about the many things that must be in place before a food safety culture can begin to be established. Then conversation then transitions to how to talk about food safety risks. Ben suggests talking about risks frankly. The guys then discuss the uncertainties around risks and how to discuss them. Discussing how quantitative risk assessments are performed and applied, and the issue of uncertainty messages, also come up in conversation. Salmonella Hypetheticum then comes up in the conversation. Don then brings up a book that he has been reviewing about food waste. The same food waste topic has been featured on a television show that Don’s real life friend Randy Worobo was a guest on. The issue of food waste and risk is discussed, with a focus on lower income persons and how to manage the need to save money against food safety risk decisions. The use of fruits and vegetables that are past their optimum date to make infused vodka brings back memories of pruno-associated C. botulinum outbreaks. Ben appreciates Don for working the math around food safety questions and the time and effort it takes to accurately answer without just ‘no don’t do that thing’. Ben then brings up the issue of thawing a turkey on the counter the risks associated with that action. Doug Powell has a paper in the Canadian Journal of Dietetics Practice Research about the calculations around thawing a turkey at room temperature. Actually, it is ok to thaw a turkey at room temperature if you are within certain parameters. This topic follows along with the possible Food Safety Talk tag line: and it’s messy. Next, Ben wants to talk about communication, but Don talks about the decision to eat fresh produce in Brazil, and other’s decision not to eat the fresh produce while visiting. While at meetings Ben seems to focus on following the news and typing up Barfblog posts (some people are ok with that and will resist complaining; Ben does type rather loudly). When Ben gets really into what he is writing, he lets out really loud sighs others have noticed, but Ben hasn’t noticed his inappropriate sighing. Transitioning back to communication, Ben brings up a hepatitis A outbreak reported in Cumberland County Maine, but without a retail location identified. The State of Maine is taking some flack (could we call this chirping, see above) for their handling of this incident; the State of Maine tried to

Food Safety Talk 72: It’s a cup that you fill full of poutine w/ Manan Sharma

11 februari 2015 | 93 min

In this episode Manan Sharma from USDA ARS fills in for Don who is away in Brazil. Manan grew up in Alabama and studied Microbiology as an undergraduate at the University of Florida. He received his M.S. and Ph.D. in Food Science from the University of Georgia where he focused on food safety microbiology. Manan and Ben talked about formative experiences in their careers including Manan’s high school internship at Research Genetics where he had great mentors who helped him appreciate molecular and microbiology. Research Genetics was later bought out by Invitrogen). Manan gave a shout out to his great mentors Bob Zahorchak, his first laboratory mentor, and Jim Hudson the president and CEO of Research Genetics. Manan also talked about his advisor at the University of Georgia, the great Dr. Larry Beuchat who encouraged him to take chances with his ideas and explore. Manan talked about his first project at USDA ARS: blowing up meat using hydrodynamic pressure processing (HDP) - different from hydrostatic pressure processing. HDP, where an explosion in a vessel of water is used to create a highly energetic wave is featured in an episode of MythBusters. Manan had to obtain a license from the ATF to use the explosives needed for this technology. Manan reported that while HDP was effective at blowing the roof off of his test facility it wasn't great at inactivating of food pathogens. Manan and Ben talked about food safety for leafy greens, particularly on the persistence of pathogens in manure and biological amendments. The guys talked about two a 2006 E. coli O157:H7/leafy green outbreaks, one connected to spinach and another linked to shredded lettuce leading to a research focus and the creation of the Center for Produce Safety, the Leafy Green Marketing Agreement. The conversation went to further impacts of big events including a 2012 Salmonella Outbreak linked to peanut butter manufactured by Sunland Farms in New Mexico which continues to impact growers. Manan talked about a paper, Bacterial Occurrence on Kitchen Hand Towels and extra-intestinal pathogenic E.coli (ExPEC). The guys wrap up the show with a new feature of 5 seconds, which included gems like: What is the riskiest food you eat? Nirvana, Pearl Jam or Soundgarden? Best project idea you wished you were part of? Most important sports moment?

Food Safety Talk 71: Bungee Jumping vs. Skydiving

29 januari 2015 | min

The fellows start the podcast by catching up on their travels, and Don talks about Brazil and Ben about Canada. Don also talked about his new podcast workflow using an app that converts webpages to PDF files and sends it directly to Dropbox. Surprisingly, they immediately embark in a food safety conversation and Ben mentioned a recent C. perfringens outbreak in Maryland at a food safety conference where 266 people became ill presumably by eating Chicken Marsala. The actual food served was not sampled, however stool samples were positive for C. perfringens. This outbreak sparks a discussion of the work by food safety expert Frank Brian. In response to an outbreak at a school, Frank performed an observation study, where he had the cafeteria staff redo everything identifying the risk associated with that outbreak. The discussion turns to Denmark where three individuals died of Listeriosis after eating asparagus soup. Dr. Charles Haas tweeted the asparagus soup recipe has a dairy component and the soup may be served hot or cold which might be the risk associated with the outbreak. Once again, they talk about cutting boards in response to Don’s Facebook post. There has been previous discussion about how many cutting boards a kitchen should have. Don who himself owns 10 cutting boards, raises a better question to how risk is managed, or when to throw away a used cutting boards. Dr. Cliver, a former professor at UC Davis, has done published on plastic and wooden cutting boards. Ben recalled that Dr. Cliver compared raw milk and apple cider with bungee jumping and skydiving. While Don does not agree with this metaphor, he thinks that Dr. Cliver would have been a great podcast guest. Speaking of guests, the hosts updated their short list to include retired government scientists Jack Guzewich, and Carl Custer. The show-noter for this episode also gives a shout out to Dr. Freeze who was not just an awesome podcast guest, but also an inspiration and role model for female food safety scientists. Ben turns the talk to tech by mentioning an iTunes application that he uses to scan receipts and important notes, and Don counters with his PDF app of choice, which reminds him of his dislike of university reimbursement logistics. Don calms down to recommends music software that helps him focus. The show wraps, up with discussion of a blog post by Doug Powell: “Who are you? Scientist, Writer, Whatever”, and Don adds that to be a good scientist, one must be a good writer, since one must write to publish, and doing experiments without publishing them is not science. Then they talk about how social media can be useful in helping in food safety, citing a restaurant in Alaska that was closed after a Facebook post led to health department inspection.

Food Safety Talk 70: A Quick Overnight Servicing

13 november 2014 | min

The episode begins with Ben and Don talking about the fall weather and Ben’s podcasting from home (possibly sans pants). The discussion turns to travel and its potential impact on Don’s jury duty. Ben has never served on a jury, but has seen many movies about trials. Don shares that he has seen some movies about trials, notably Capote and To Kill a Mockingbird. Both guys are fans of the movie My Cousin Vinny, which is not a book. The pop culture talk turns to television, and Ben mentions The Americans (spelled with a c, not k, but the c does look like a hammer and sickle in the show logo). Don has been watching Intruders, but he has barely been able to discern what the show is actually about. Last Tango in Halifax is also good TV; with season two now available on Netflix. Ben wraps up the pop culture part of the show with a mention of a Farm Aid concert he attended with some other foodie-people and mentioned that Neil Young shared about his personal views on some farming issues at the concert. The conversation moved to politics and cable news. As a board member of the New Jersey Association for Food Protection, Don was part of a recent conference call regarding the organizing of a GMO foods discussion/debate with invited speakers, potentially including Robyn O’Brien. When Ben got his start in food safety, GMO foods were in the news and he mentioned a recent barfblog post on labeling of GMO foods and their unintended impacts on consumer choice. Ben talked about the summer reading program at NC State, and this years book Tomorrows Table, written by an organic farmer and a food biotechnologist. Ben recently participated in an IFT sponsored twitter chat on the safety of packed lunches. Ben noted the difficulty in answering complicated questions in only 140 characters over twitter and the stress of having answered so many questions in a short period of time. The discussion turned to an article about the temperatures of school lunches, and the importance of considering both time and temperature. Don mentioned a good FightBac webinar that covered cross contamination, and plugged his recent appearance on Academic Minute that covered some of Don’s hand washing experiments. Ben recently received a risk-type question during an interview, and he was keen to know what Don would answer (PhD students take note: Ben plans to ask this question at every qualifying exam he goes to!). The question was: What is the riskiest food-related thing that you do? Don provides two answers: 1) he sometimes doesn’t wash his hands for 20 s with soap; 2) sometimes he doesn’t take the temperature of meat on the grill and just believes it is ‘probably good enough’. Ben’s answer included eating fresh restaurant salsa with lots of cilantro and eating a lot of berries. Ben, Don and regular podcast guest Mike Batz are all trying to eat less and exercise more, and using technology to do it. Mike and Don are using Lose It; Ben is using My Net Diary and Runtastic. Don announced that he has podcast cheated on Ben by participating on another podcast, Better Know a Jackal, and the discussion moves to podcasting workflows in general. Don is now using an app to send webpage PDFs to Dropbox. The conversation then transitioned to some humorous turns-of-phrase that Doug and Ben like to drop into Barfblog articles. Ben was disappointed no one commented on a witty double entendre he included in a posting about finding vomit on an airplane. Ben has to repeat the line to Don a few times before laughter ensues.

Food Safety Talk 69: Laura Nelson and Jay Neal

21 oktober 2014 | 91 min

The guys start the podcast by discussing old movies that Ben has never seen, like Play Misty for Me and the Good the Good, the Bad and the Ugly. Talk turned to chimps, Bonzo and Bubbles (not this Bubbles). They then talked about some more recent TV shows like Californication, The Americans, Dr. Who, Intruders, Comic Book men. And yes, the food safety experts are excited about New Girl season 3 on Netflix. The topic shifted to edible marijuana issues in Colorado related to Salmonella contamination and then Don reviewed a book that he recently read, “The minotaur takes a cigarette break” to which he awarded 5 thermometers. Don and Ben were then joined by special guests Laura Nelson and Dr. Jay Neal. Laura Nelson is Vice President of Business Development and Technical Services at Alchemy Systems, a food industry training solution provider and Jay Nelson is an Associate Professor at the University of Houston. The group had a discussion started on behavior-based food safety training including a survey that Alchemy commissioned, Global Food Training Survey Reveals New Emphasis on Worker Behavior. Laura also talked about an internal report looking at training staff on food safety behaviors including an observation/coaching follow-up. The group talked about some of the common issues that the food industry encounters - staff may have been trained but the actual practices aren’t always happening. Laura spoke about how to get at the reasons behind why practices don’t occur - and that food safety culture is tough for some industry folks to define. Jay talked about a training technique that includes breaking down specific processes into small pieces and how the literature is pointing to encouraging feedback and coaching along with positive reinforcement. Jay’s experiences are that managers are really important to culture and where their priorities are (sales, customer experience, food safety) will affect team performance. All four of them discussed ways to improve workers skills; Don pointed out that measuring behavior is very hard, and the group discussed some work that Jay had published in this area. Jay shared an amusing classroom social experiment where he teaches his students to empathize with non-english speakers. He assigned the students a recipe in a undecipherable font and only the manager has a clear recipe. They must try to cook together but they are not allowed to talk. In After Dark, Ben introduced Don to the Sponge Bath It suggests soaking kitchen sponge in a cleaning solution of citric acid and silver to reduce microbial growth. Nevertheless, Ben and Don promised to talk more on the topic in future podcasts.

Food Safety Talk 68: We Found It In Wild Pig Feces

9 oktober 2014 | 106 min

Don bravely did this podcast without a microphone boom. Ben feels good despite his messy office. Ben mentions that he is currently obsessed with the Rolling Stones and likes the Shine a Light Film, Jumpin’ Jack Flash, (the song not so much the Whoopi Goldberg spy comedy film), and the song Salt of the Earth from the Stones album Beggars Banquet. They then discuss movies every kid needs to see before they turn thirteen such as Indiana Jones, Ghostbusters, E.T., and Diary of a Wimpy Kid and classic kids books including The Hardy Boys, Encyclopedia Brown, Three Investigators, Key to the Treasure, and A Wrinkle in Time. The guys then discuss their recovery after IAFP, as a follow-up to FST 66. As president of IAFP Don was very busy at the conference with meetings, breakfasts, committee responsibilities, and other assorted duties. He made the conference manageable by shirking his student poster responsibilities, not going to any talks, and skipping PDG meetings. He did however give a talk on based on a paper he has been working on with his CDC and EHS-Net (pronounced S-net) colleagues. The guys then drift to other podcasts, especially Alton Brown’s series and in particular one he did with William Shatner. If you like podcasts, food, Alton Brown, or William Shatner, this stupendous podcast is highly recommended for you. Thirty-five minutes in they decide that they should talk about food safety and get to Outbreak Flashback about a 2008 Salmonella Saintpaul outbreak that affected over 1400 nationally (as per Michelle Danyluk's suggestion. Initial CDC epidemiology analysis indicated the illnesses were associated with eating tomato dishes and FDA issued a health advisory on tomatoes. This NEJM article shows the case control studies that layout why the CDC initially thought the source was tomatoes. After tomatoes were removed from the market the illness continued and with additional data available the CDC later concluded that jalapeño and Serrano peppers were the likely source. Epidemiologic analysis was confounded by the fact that many illnesses were from restaurants where peppers were in dishes that contained multiple ingredients. Additionally the production and supply chain was very complex as is shown in the FDA’s traceback diagram. A key aspect of this outbreak is that it significantly harmed reputation and sales of the tomato industry, which estimates $400 million lost dollars as a result of the FDA’s erroneous health advisory. Talk turned to growers seeking indemnification or financial compensation for situations when the government agencies are incorrect about outbreaks. The guys then discuss a voluntary recall by Wawona Packing Co. on fresh peaches and stone fruit. A receiving company in Australia detected the presence of Listeria monocytogenes. This later led to a recall of baked goods in Wegman’s supermarket chain presumably because Wegman’s baking process is not validated. There are a surprisingly high number of comments posted to the Wegman’s article in Food Safety News which caused the guys to consider if the public health implications of this recall are more significant than first thought. For Listeria monocytogenes (LM) there are not a lot of outbreaks but rather sporadic cases; CDC estimates in 2013 there were 0.26 LM illness cases per 100,000 people in the US (for every case reported there are 2 cases not diagnosed). The guys then discuss food safety gaps common in fresh produce including poorly executed washing processes and traceability deficiencies. In after dark the guys discuss that Dean Richard Linton, Dean of the NCSU College of Ag, has selected the 2014 Dean’s ice cream which is dark chocolate, tart cherries, chocolate chunks and marshmallow swirl.

Food Safety Talk 67: John Bassett

29 september 2014 | 92 min

In this episode Don talks with John Bassett. The scene opens with a vivid description of a picturesque English village with pigeons pooping on the eaves and birds chirping in the background. John starts by telling the listeners a bit about his background. He is a veterinarian by training, having earned his degree in New Zealand. He spent seven years as a veterinary practitioner; a bit like that depicted in All Creatures Great and Small in Epsom (that’s in England). John returned to New Zealand and began a small animal practice but quickly transitioned to work for a government biosecurity laboratory in Wellington (that’s in New Zealand) where he solved problems during extended coffee breaks taken in trendy cafes. John got his start in risk assessment using the OIE approach. John’s next career move was to industry as a risk assessor with Unilever; this took him back to England (that’s in the United Kingdom). The guys got sidetracked and discussed the sole-crushing bureaucracy that can be found in big industry (not that there’s anything wrong with that). John’s latest career change finds him in a new mode as food safety consultant. The guys discussed the recent Chobani mold incident. From here the conversation jumped into tea. Iced tea with added sugar was discussed as a possible growth medium for generic E. coli (special concern was expressed for sun-brewed tea) and the potential for herbal (pronounced ‘erbal’ by some) tea as a source of bacteria and maybe pathogens. John talked about some of his current risk assessment work, and the difficulty of making risk management decisions for low-frequency events. John explains his recent interest in Gael Risk assessment techniques. This approach can be used for semi-quantitative risk assessment, and may have value in preventing problems like the recent horse-meat food scandal. The value of audits in science-based food safety was questioned and discussed, and Don and John disagreed about the value of semi-quantitative risk assessments. Bandwidth on John’s end starts to suffer (perhaps due to John’s kids arrival home from school) so the conversation is paused briefly, while John (the poopy-head) sorts it out. The show resumes with a discussion on whether HACCP is risk based or not. John notes that one key to “selling” a risk assessment might be based on saving money in the long run, perhaps from a reduced need for testing and auditing. A discussion of the Elliott Review takes place before the guys re-iterate the need for using computerized systems for effective traceback in the food supply chain; especially ones that do not need to be linked via paper documents. John mentions that he will not be at IAFP 2014 due to lack of a wealthy sponsor; but he does plan to attend the IAFP European Symposium in Cardiff in 2015. Don reveals his IAFP presidential party plans (Beer, Bourbon, and BBQ), while John contemplates pork ribs somewhere closer to home. John mentioned the use of the sear and shave technique to produce safer raw burgers in the UK. Don didn’t seem convinced, and will continue using his iGrill and tip sensitive digital thermometer, as suggested for use in previous Food Safety Talk episodes, “because everyone’s gotta have a hobby”. Both guys reminisced over outbreaks of Campylobacter jejuni from seared chicken livers that occurred in the UK and USA. In the After Dark portion, Don transitioned into talking about Doctor Who, and John explained he was late for the podcast meeting because of a meeting with McDonald’s own Bizhan Pourkomailian.

Food Safety Talk 66: The IAFP special with Dr. Freeze

22 september 2014 | 81 min

Ben and Don were on location in Indianapolis at the International Association for Food Protection annual meeting and the show kicks off with Don’s discussion of his script and playbook for the IAFP meeting. Don ate dinner at a place (Harry and Izzy's) that is not St. Elmo’s Fire and the guys decided that Rob Lowe looks the same as he did in 1986. Ben discussed his rule of three drinks, and Don does not subscribe to the same rule - which led to some tiredness. The guys were joined by Dr. Freeze who is not to be confused by Canada’s king of icees, Mr. Freeze. In discussing Ben’s new found obsession with the number 3 (like Jack White), Don shares 5ives, Merlin Mann’s list of fives (including #3 on the list of 5 guitarists who rock the three-note solo). Don’s continued use of his IAFP playbook as a prop leads to a dissuasion of Dungeons and Dragon’s, Canadianisms and the renaming of IAFP as science prom (where Don and Ben may take their bromance to the next level). Don alluded to the Florida Association for Food Protection’s requirement that Don dress up as a roach. A talk of accents let to a discussion of one of Ben’s current obsessions, FX’s Fargo with Martin Freeman. The group recapped Indianapolis happenings including Food Safety Talk guest Bill Marler's Ivan Parkin Lecture and the Oregonian’s Lynne Terry filing stories and tweeting from the meeting. The discussion went into some of the opportunities and challenges of having media actively attending sessions. The topic turned to non-traditional media, the 24 hour news cycle and clickbait lists including Buzzfeed. Don told a story about how a clip of him talking about food safety in China ended up on Al Jazeera. An age old discussion about the media (and others) getting science wrong led to Ben talking about an anonymous Twitter feed called IAFP no context. The discussion went into the War of 1812 (also known as the one that Canada won). In the After Dark the group talked about the Grateful Dead, handy folks and carpenters.

Food Safety Talk 65: All My Ports are Engaged

12 september 2014 | 106 min

Food Safety Talk 64: The One With Doug

28 augusti 2014 | 85 min

Food Safety Talk 63: The Great One

14 juli 2014 | 90 min

Don and Ben revert back to their old Skype issues with the perceived blame being on Ben, but it was actually Don. Don announced that there will be help for people like Ben who aren’t so good at time and attention at IAFP 2014 the infamous Merlin Mann will be there. About 0.1% of IAFP annual meeting attendees will be excited to see him - including Ben and Don. Ben mentions his excitement that Professor Dr. Donald Schaffner, PhD was name checked on Back to Work Episode 173. The first mention of The Wire comes at 12 minutes which the guys then give a shout out to Baltimore resident Manan Sharma who mentioned that that’s his favorite part of the show. In follow-up from Episode 61, friend of the show MDD says that there are not rats in Alberta Ben and Don remark while there may not be any snakes in New Zealand and Ireland (although Ben thinks that Don is thinking of potatoes) there are rats in small pockets in Alberta While Alberta has had a rat eradication program since the 1950s, a colony of Norwegian rats, of Roanoke Island proportion, was found in Medicine Hat in 2012 and 2014 Ben tells Don that he wears big pockets, because of the rats issue and on a pilgrimage to Edmonton to see a statue of The Great One his pockets were not checked. The guys then talk about a question from IAFP’s Dina (not Dinah). Dina asked the guys to discuss their thoughts on a recent JFP paper about non-intact steak cooking using temperature, flipping/turning and different cooking methods. The practical, take-home message (as dictated using Dragon Dictate that flipping and covering with a lid (which allows cooking to occur both through conduction and convection heat) and using a thermometer for all cuts of meat helps reduce risk. Ben talked a bit about some future work that his group is doing looking at mechanically tenderized beef messaging, perception and behavior- including cubed steak (which is sometimes two pieces of meat slapped together and run through the cuber- although not by wikipedia). The discussion then went towards steak eating preferences as detailed by FiveThirtyEight Nate Silver’s cadre of numbers nerds who dissect a lot of pop culture and sports questions. The guys then both talked about message variability projects they have going on. Ben’s group is looking at cook book recipes (and how the messages and instructions in the culinary world often are not evidence-based). And Don’s group is looking at messaging on handwashing signs, something that his second favorite graduate student, Dane, is undertaking. In outbreak flashback the guys talked about 1854’s Broad St. Pump cholera outbreak. Using a map and analyzing cases of human disease, John Snow, largely recognized as one of the founders of epidemiology, created a blueprint for the next generation of disease hunters. Removing the handle on the pump was recognized by ending the outbreak except that modern epi-curve analysis suggests that the outbreak was already on the decline. Ben’s favorite part was what one of his undergraduate professors, Anthony Clarke talked about in class 15 years ago: the monks in a local monastery did not get sick because they didn’t drink the water, just home brewed beer. The guys then ended the show talking about an outbreak linked to food service hamburgers made from Wolverine Packing (or Wolverine’s Packing with adamantium slicers and grinders) beef. It’s unclear whether illnesses are linked to undercooked burgers or cross contamination - although anecdotally undercooked burgers have been reported. One of Ben’s graduate student’s Ellen Thomas has been working on a project related directly to this type of product, where secret shoppers have been speaking with servers at burger-serving family style restaurants throughout the U.S. The results of the project will be shared at IAFP in Indianapolis. In after dark the guys chuckle and guffaw about Ben’s Beatles references and Time and Attention and Tony Robbins who Ben thinks is in prison. But he’s

Food Safety Talk 62: Uncomfortably Numb

16 juni 2014 | 87 min

Food Safety Talk 61: I Needed a Semenko

1 juni 2014 | 110 min

The show opened with a long discussion of various philosophical issues relating to careers in Academia, followed by a brief diversion into gutter cleaning drones, comiXology, and the new TV show Silicon Valley. Ben shared he has been listening to Gord Downie, The Sadies, And The Conquering Sun. Downie will be familiar to FST podcast listeners as the Canadian rock musician, writer, occasional actor who is the lead singer and lyricist for the Canadian rock band The Tragically Hip. Don noted that he had backed the new Lee 'Scratch' Perry Album kickstarter project. In the follow up segment the guys noted that a new show noter was still needed, before moving on to a listener question from Jon Kimble about the protective effect of wine in foodborne disease outbreaks. Ben also talked about his experiences at a raw milk conference he attended in Canada. Fortunately for Ben, Dave Semenko was not needed. The Outbreak flashback segment of the show flash all the way back to the 1981 listeriosis outbreak linked to coleslaw made from cabbage fertilized with sheep manure. Ben noted that sheep were also one among many possible Listeria sources in Jensen farms outbreak, as also indicated by fashion plate and Apple guy, Dr. Lawrence Goodridge quoted in the story. Ben wanted to talk about Hep A and Tevana, when the show finally started, because he is a mall rat. This led to a discussion about Hepatitis A vaccinations for Foodservice workers. While it might not be "cost effective", it still might be the right thing to do. The discussion then turned to sous vide cooking, and a new product on the market, and Don's interactions with the reviewed.com reviewers as well as the product manufacturers in the comments. Don was less successful in leaving comments on a recent sous vide NPR blog post, but thanks to Doug, Don was able to weigh in on barfblog. Don then quizzed Ben (who is from Canada), regarding whether he now lives in the South. The show ended with a mention of the passing of noted self experimenter Seth Roberts, including the predictable reaction from hacker news. More on his cause of death has been provided on his blog, posted after FST recorded.

Food Safety Talk 60: Pour maple syrup on it

16 maj 2014 | 106 min

Food Safety Talk 59: You're thinking of Goldmember

4 maj 2014 | 119 min

Food Safety Talk 58: Where's my wallet?

2 april 2014 | 122 min

Food Safety Talk 57: My Own Tea Mule

16 mars 2014 | 114 min

The guys started the show by sharing some family traditions including watching Jeopardy and drinking Rooibos tea. They then discussed some raw milk questions posed by raw milk producer. Don suggested that there was specific scientific evidence to answer many of them. He also wondered about the scientific basis of some of the information presented in a recent RMI webinar. Don then shared that he'll be podcast cheating again on an upcoming Raw Food Real Talk episode on cottage food. The guys then transitioned to a recent cheese related Listeriosis outbreak affecting members of the Hispanic community. While health authorities have released some information on illnesses and the product there are many questions that are still to be answered. After a false start and then covering the last part of the IAFP History, the 2000's, Ben put out a call to listeners for important outbreaks and food safety landmarks that Ben and Don could discuss in the upcoming Outbreak Flashback segment. It will be groovy. And have a disco theme. The guys then turned to pizza and Alton Brown, who Don went to see live. Alton had dropped the pizza base before cooking it and that got Don worried about what message this was sending. Ben was amused by Alton's Twitter feed and fascinated by his earlier career. While on the pizza topic, Ben found some really stretched science reporting of this research article. The press release reminded the guys of Betteridge's law of headlines. The answer is always no. The discussion of media reminded Don of this Andrew Gelman post about how to get your university press release reprinted by The Washington Post. Don concluded that the best practices for engaging people are also despicable. Ben suggested sometimes science-types need to go to where people are engaged and sort of play the same game. To quote Merlin Mann from 43 Folders: "Joining a Facebook group about creative productivity is like buying a chair about jogging." To finish off, Ben raised the issue of consumers not following label instructions, as was the case with E. coli in Nestle Toll House Cookie Dough. Ben wanted to know how consumers learn about products and how to use those products. In the after dark the guys covered Picturelife, and Siri not having what Don was looking for, which he posted on Facebook.

Food Safety Talk 56: Damned hard to make safe food

16 februari 2014 | 89 min

Food Safety Talk 55: Damn Ignorant PhDs

9 februari 2014 | 101 min

Food Safety Talk 54: Rubber Dingus

25 januari 2014 | 116 min

The show started with Don sharing his recent [Systematic](http://5by5.tv/systematic/76) experience. Ben then wanted some help with a prevalence calculation, as prompted by his undergraduate lecturer [Ronald Brooks](http://www.uoguelph.ca/ib/people/faculty/brooks.shtml). The guys then reminisced about their high school teachers before turning on the freezing weather and frozen food, thanks to [AFFI-CON 2014](http://afficon.affi.org/). In answer to a listener question on the 4-hour rule, Don shared his [recent JFP paper](http://www.ingentaconnect.com/content/iafp/jfp/2013/00000076/00000006/art00023). Similar calculations (also by Don) have been used by a Conference for Food Protection (CFP) committee to develop guidance on lack of temperature control during emergency situations. That guidance will be presented as part of the [2014 CFP](http://www.foodprotect.org/). Thanks to the book ["I Wear the Black Hat"](http://www.amazon.com/Wear-Black-Hat-Grappling-Villains/dp/1439184496), Ben has really gotten back into heavy metal, especially [Metallica](https://www.metallica.com/), while Don's been re-reading [The Sandman](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Sandman_(Vertigo)). This got the guys into a discussion of [DC Comics](http://www.dccomics.com/) versus [Marvel Comics](http://marvel.com/). In the IAFP History segment the guys covered the 1980's, which saw the introduction of new technologies, like vacuum packaging and irradiation, the emergence of new pathogens, such as [*E. coli* O157:H7](http://www.about-ecoli.com/), [*Listeria monocytogenes*](http://www.about-listeria.com/) and [*Campylobacter*](http://www.about-campylobacter.com/), as well as [zero tolerance](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zero_tolerance_(trade)). The guys then speculated about the [*Salmonella* Stanley outbreak linked to raw cashew cheese](http://www.cdc.gov/salmonella/stanley-01-14/index.html), before turning their attention to the [Fox and Donkey meat scandal in China](http://www.theatlantic.com/international/print/2014/01/chinas-latest-food-scandal-fox-tainted-donkey-meat/282776/) and the [potential zoonotic food safety risks associated with foxes](http://www.vef.unizg.hr/vetarhiv/papers/2006-76-7-10.pdf). Ben then got a buzz from the [12 Surprising things you can make with a coffee pot](http://www.buzzfeed.com/arielknutson/surprising-things-you-can-make-with-a-coffee-pot), because it reminded of his college days. He's considering including the [poaching chicken in a coffee maker](http://www.gizmodo.com.au/2009/08/macgyver-chef-poached-chicken-and-couscous-in-a-coffee-maker/) as part of the dishwasher cooking research project discussed on earlier episodes. While there was plenty of wacky stuff on the interwebs over the holidays, [this Wall Street Journal article about a frog in a Pret A Manger salad](http://blogs.wsj.com/speakeasy/2013/12/30/dead-frog-found-in-pret-a-manger-salad/) got Don all jumpy about Pret A Manger's knowledge about pesticides and food safety. The guys finished the show discussing the Food Safety News article on "[How to Break a Foodborne Illness Story](http://www.foodsafetynews.com/2014/01/publishers-platform-how-to-break-a-foodborne-illness-story/)." In the after dark, Ben shared his work habits and this turned into a discussion of Don and Ben's favourite [Starbucks](http://www.starbucks.com/). The guys then shared some movies and TV shows they like, including [Saving Mr Banks](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2140373/), [American Hustle](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1800241/?ref_%3Dfn_al_tt_1), [Back to the Future](http://www.universalstudiosentertainment.com/back-to-the-future-25th-anniversary-edition/) (I, II and III), [Honey, I shrunk the Kids](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0097523/), [Despicable me](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1323594/), [Call the Midwife](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Call_the_Midwife) and [Last Tango in Halifax](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2216156/).

Food Safety Talk 53: Raw Milk Hamsterdam

13 januari 2014 | 121 min

The guys battled Skype and CallRecorder, got bedazzled by The Smashing Pumpkins, got a twitter buzz from Beyonce's album, and got lathered up with FDA's focus on antibacterial soaps. They then shared some additional information they received from Cheryl Doom from the American Spice Trade Association (ASTA) on the spice story in FST 52. Cheryl explained why ASTA didn't have a response to the FDA risk assessment as reported in this NYT article and shared a guidance document ASTA had prepared in 2011. The discussion then turned to yet another pruno-related botulism outbreak in a Utah prison. Pruno has been discussed in FST 27 and the investigation of that outbreak has just been published in this paper, including the experimental Pruno recipe. In the IAFP History segment, Don shared Manan Sharma's article on the 1970's, which marked changes to food consumption, food safety and environmental trends, including HACCP and microwaves. After a short 1970's detour to Jack Kirby's Fourth World Omnibus Vol 1, Ben marveled about the advances in microwave technology, including the magnetron. While Ben's new microwave exceeded his cooking expectation, Trader Joe's cooking instructions for Mac & Cheese fell short. In contrast to Trader Joe's, who don't have a social media presence, Don did like Publix who asked for a haiku on Twitter. Don then shared his latest irritation with Fightbac.org. It was prompted by their latest campaign called Bac Down and the misinformation that Listeria monocytogenes can grow at temperatures as low 32 deg F and not 40 deg F. The guys challenged listeners to send in their creative Bac-themed puns for great prices! Ben then wanted to talk about meat in pants, or more specifically Jeffery Arthur Feehan who tried to shoplift meat in his pants. But Ben wasn't quite so worried simply because store employees put the meat back on the shelf (a big yuck factor!), but that Jeffrey took the meat to the restroom for his pants stuffing misdemeanor. Jeffrey's comment to the judges reminded Ben of a famous Animal House quote. The discussion then turned to a recent paper on Raw Milk Consumption. While the underreporting aspect got some publicity, Ben was worried that all the information wasn't going to change people's mind. This had been highlighted in this article on Michigan consumers of raw milk and that's got to do with raw milk proponents not trusting health officials. Ben then remembered the "The Abuela project", an example of an innovative approach to overcoming the difficulty of developing successful education campaigns. The challenge of course is how to develop a campaign when raw milk sales are illegal (as is the case in some states). Maybe a Raw Milk Hamsterdam is the solution?

Food Safety Talk 52: A Keene epidemiologist

21 december 2013 | 100 min

The guys started the show dreaming about a Red Mac Pro. They then turned to the passing of Bill Keene. Bill has been mentioned in various FST episodes and was a well respected epidemiologist as seen in the articles by the Oregonian and Doug Powell. The guys then turned to their beverages, Coffee Club, Napoleon Dynamite, Homeland, and Car Talk. Ben shared his preference for Aussie Rule football and Arcade Fire's album Reflektor. The conversation then turned to Don's limited iPhone music library, Privateering and Dire Straights, which reminded Ben of Money for Nothing and WWE Wrestling (not WWF Wrestling). To finish they talked about Christmas music, Bad Religion's Christmas Songs, Coulton and Roderick's One Christmas at a Time and Horrible Christmas songs. Ben confused IAFP's History with Bug Trivia and shared Julian Cox's information about the 1960's, and this evolved into a broader discussion about the IAFP and its membership. The discussion then turned back to Bill Keene and some of the outbreaks he had been involved in. This included a Salmonella Panama outbreak (not to be confused with Van Halen's Panama), which was the first outbreak that was solved through the innovative use of supermarket loyalty cards and that Bill and others were sued for (the lawsuit was eventually dropped.. The guys then discussed outbreak investigation in some detail and that public health officials are damned if they do and damned if they don't name commodities and suppliers. There is of course always a risk of getting the epidemiology wrong, as was the case with Salmonella Saintpaul in peppers. Finally, Bill's investigation of a Norovirus outbreak reminded Ben of a recent Norovirus outbreak in Las Vegas. Then Ben commented on an exchange with Chris Gunter, who was presenting on traceability for small producers at the 2013 Strawberry Expo. Chris' presentation is based on the investigation of an E. coli O157 outbreak related to strawberries, in which Bill Keene played a part. In the after dark, the guys reflected on mortality and that we should all Enjoy Every Sandwich. And because they love him, Rob Ford got a mention again and again.

Food Safety Talk 51: Pee on the radiator

4 december 2013 | 125 min

Food Safety Talk 50: Fifty pink flamingos

19 november 2013 | 128 min

The guys started the show with a Flamingo flash back, Don’s iTunes Radio “Grateful Dead” channel experiment (sans Katy Perry and Kanye West), New Girl with Zooey Deschanel, She & Him, Steve Earle, The Walking Dead, the Pulling the String podcast, and The Lone Ranger. Don then shared how he used the Internet’s way-back machine (not to be confused with Mister Peabody’s WABAC Machine) to get around the black-out of US government websites. Ben then turned to an NPR article about the Niche Meat Processor Assistance Network and a Kickstarter campaign to create an open source HACCP plan. This lead into a broader discussion of the work undertaken by extension specialists, Don’s ‘useless’ Twitter exchange and how to find out about food safety using Let Me Google That For You. In the Food Safety History segment, Don shared information from the IAFP History book about the 1950’s and an increased focus on preventing foodborne illness. Don then returned to his recent Twitter exchange about hand washing with @Frankly and @danbenjamin, which included this article from About.com. The article, which referenced unpublished work from 2000 by Barbara Almanza on hand sanitizers, got the guys fired up about the regulatory system and undertaking effective research on the assessing the efficacy of hand sanitizers. After taking yet another detour into the world of The Wire, the guys returned to hand sanitizers and discussed some research articles, including: Effectiveness of Liquid Soap and Hand Sanitizer against Norwalk Virus on Contaminated Hands Improved inactivation of nonenveloped enteric viruses and their surrogates by a novel alcohol-based hand sanitizer Comparative efficacy of seven hand sanitizers against murine norovirus, feline calicivirus, and GII.4 norovirus Management of Risk of Microbial Cross-Contamination from Uncooked Frozen Hamburgers by Alcohol-Based Hand Sanitizer To finish this monster show, the guys briefly touched on Foster Farms fiasco, which they’ve kept on their list of things to discuss next time. By the time the after dark came around Don was contemplating a career in pottery, while Ben favored rolling cigars for a living.

Food Safety Talk 49: Less Risky Bathroom Event

14 oktober 2013 | 97 min

The show started with Don and Ben sharing their love for iOS7 and iTunes Radio. Ben's still on his Beach Boys trip, having recently watched Beautiful Dreamer. The discussion then quickly turned to food safety follow up. Ben wasn't happy with his Food Safety News interview on dishwasher cooking and the message that he might have sent. Don felt that a really important aspect was the multitude of variables that can change from one dishwasher to another and hence that it was difficult be safe. The guys then discussed some listener feedback about safety of low sugar jellies, which was related to the work of one of Don's master's student. The listener commended the work on low sugar jellies, which will help provide important information to existing Cottage Food Guidelines. The guys then delved into the effects of water activity, pH, sugar contents for the safety of the preserving process and how some products, such as the Cronut Maple Jam, fall far outside the known safe zone. This got Ben onto the Toronto Public Health investigation update on the Cronut Burger outbreak, which was related to the already risky jam not being refrigerated by the producer or the vendor who purchased it. Don then gave Amy Jane Gruber, from Just The Tip podcast, a plug for her participation in the Fare Walk for Food Allergy. You might even hear her on a future FST episode. In the Food Safety History segment, Don shared the initial editorial from the journal of milk technology, which while written in 1937 still resonates strongly with today's food safety activities. Ben then described personal challenge he has urinating in his office building without getting splash back. This reminded the guys of the aerosolization in the bathroom and potential risk that this can pose. Ben then recalled the UPI story about a Swedish man urinating on supermarket produce. While urine is normally sterile, Ben wondered about the risks. While Don couldn't quantify the risk on the spot, he noted that in HACCP terms hand washing after a bowel movement was a CCP while after peeing it could be considered a GHP. But both agreed that sick workers just shouldn't be at work. The discussion then turned to raw milk cheeses, which was prompted by the Gort's Gouda raw milk cheese related outbreak in Canada. Don noted that the rate of inactivation in a particular product was more important that just a '60-day limit' say. That's because the final risk is integrally related to the starting concentration and the inactivation rate. To finish off the podcast Don wanted to talk about the Food Safety News article on food date labels, which was based on this NRDC work. While Don agreed that date labels were confusing, he was also rather sceptical of the underlying work. In the after dark, the guys talked about the new markdown format for the shownotes and planned their podcasting schedules for the next few episodes.

Food Safety Talk 48: Ninja moves to rock and roll

26 september 2013 | 117 min

The guys started the show with some general chit chat about The Beer Store and [The Nail Shop](http://www.yelp.com/biz/the-nail-shop-omaha), the [Beach Boys](http://www.thebeachboys.com/), including "[Pet Sounds](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pet_Sounds)", Chuck Berry, [Bed Bad Baaaaaaatz](http://badbatz.tumblr.com/), Don's [Etymotic hf5 earphones](http://www.etymotic.com/ephp/hf5.html), Twitter, (including [this discussion](https://twitter.com/bugcounter/status/373254508580573184)), and [Barbara M. O'Neill](http://njaes.rutgers.edu/personnel/individual.asp?id%3D416)'s great work. Prompted by a [link](http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-2398775/30-C-laundry-cycles-breed-bacteria-transfer-germs-underwear-tea-towels.html) from Alejandro Amezquita the guys then turned their attention to laundry and in the process gave the phrase "Eat My Shorts!"meaning. In the article, [Lisa Ackerley](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lisa_Ackerley) discussed the hygiene of laundering. The guys recalled a couple of research articles by Chuck Gerba related to the topic ([here](http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/0043135491900969) and [here](http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0163445301908527)). Neither Don nor Ben were particularly worried about this. This reminded Ben of [The Salt article](http://www.npr.org/blogs/thesalt/2013/08/25/214799882/dishwasher-cooking-make-your-dinner-while-cleaning-the-plates) on cooking food in the dishwasher. The guys discussed the potential risk of this approach and the sciences that is needed. Another [The Salt article on washing poultry had also resulted in a large amount of social media engagement, which is something the Don and Ben are always keen to explore. And both enjoyed Alton Brown's proper method for washing out th inside of a whole poultry. The guys then moved onto the bug trivia replacement segment called Food Safety History, in honour of a 100 years of the IAFP Journal of Food Protection. In this episode the Don covered the [pre 1940 era](http://www.foodprotection.org/100years/articles/100-yrs-of-iafp-pre-1940.pdf). It all started with the Journal of Milk Technology and the connection with raw milk reminded Ben of this [Toronto Star article](http://www.thestar.com/news/gta/2011/09/30/two_crusaders_a_competing_cause_ontarios_raw_milk_saga.html). Don then wanted to talk about this [NY Times article](http://www.nytimes.com/2013/08/28/world/asia/farmers-change-over-spices-link-to-food-ills.html), related to *Salmonella* in spices, and the related [Food Microbiology article](http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0740002012002171). Don posed Ben the questions that he was asked for a Q&A based Rutgers media release on this topic and the guys compared their answers. The guys then got fired up about the [Cronut Burger related outbreak article by [Jason Tetro](http://www.foodsafetynews.com/author/jtetro/#.UidMtBabS0s). Ben didn't quite agree with some of Jason's assumptions, so Ben queried the manufacturers about the parameters of the product, which [Le Dolci didn't know](https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid%3D10153155762045720&id%3D305381935719). Ben eventually found the answer from Toronto Public Health, and was able to set the record straight To finish off, Don mentioned [The New Disruptors](http://newdisrupt.org/) podcast, which featured [Marisa McClellan](http://foodinjars.com/) in Episode 38 "Yes, we can!"talk about food preservation. Don was pleasantly surprised by her knowledge, including of the National Center for Home Food Preservation. In the after dark the guys continued with canning, including [Canvolution](https://twitter.com/Canvolution), [Canning Across America](http://www.canningacrossamerica.com/) and pink flamingos for their 50th episode.

Food Safety Talk 47: But that's not science

4 september 2013 | 102 min

The guys started by talking about their office and home podcasting set-ups; how Don inspired his son Zac, podcast sponsorship (thanks Dr. Indian Clarified Butter); the Food Science short course at Rutgers; MC-ing; Ben’s wedding; and, customer service at Frito Lay’s and General Mills. In the bug trivia segment the guys talked about the protozoan parasite Toxoplasma gondii, recently reviewed by Beniamino and colleagues. T. gondii was ranked the second worst pathogen in terms of quality adjusted life years (QALY) by Mike Batz (guest on FST 4) and colleagues, and recently featured on Back to Work. The discussion took a short detour to food thermometers, including the PDT 300, iGrill, and ThermaPen, before coming around to the retiring Pete Snyder, from HI-TM. Pete is held in high regard by both Ben and Don, not only because he wasn’t afraid to ask questions, like Don did in the comment exchange to the Snapper barfblog article. Thanks to Pete’s guidance Ben is always seeking the primary information for creating his Infosheets. A classic example of Pete’s drive for the scientific justification relates to the information produced on thawing poultry at ambient temperatures, which was picked up by barfblog. Ben then talked about the CDC report on the tempeh related outbreak discussed in FST 18. He found it interesting that many of the illnesses appeared to be caused by cross-contamination rather than consumption of the contaminated, unpasteurized tempeh. Don was bummed that his own work wasn’t cited by the CDC, but he noted that Michelle’s recent work showed that cross-contamination was facilitated by moisture. This then turned into a broader discussion around managing risks in a food service setting. Don then wanted to hear Ben’s thoughts about Bill Marler’s question on what cantaloupe and baseball have in common. Bill’s suggestion to change the incentives had the flavor of a Modest Proposal, but without the satire. Ben agreed that retailers and restaurants should be held responsible, as without them there isn’t enough pressure on the suppliers. The guys then discussed third party audits and the setting of supplier standards. Both agreed that the current system doesn’t work how it should and that proper data analysis could provide significant insights. In the after dark the guys talked about Ben’s upcoming trip to Brazil, the PCV show, food safety a-holes, Mexican wrestling masks, the Conference for Food Protection councils, laws and sausages, and getting hurt at the doctor's office.

Food Safety Talk 46: The mother of all messy epidemiology

23 augusti 2013 | 117 min

During their podcasting foreplay don and Ben discussed their breakfast choices, their love for guacamole (despite the risks associated with cilantro), and the challenge of separating work from private life. The guys then got onto the recent IAFP annual meeting (abstracts are here), which clearly was a huge success. Ben was impressed by Michelle Danyluk’s deconstruction of the FSMA Fresh Produce rule to create a really convincing story, which included work Don and Michelle had published. Ben then talked about the symposium on Farmers markets[AK1] , which he’s done work on. He really enjoyed Erin Jobe’s talk about the realities of the Carrboro Farmer’s Market, which reminded Ben of the need to expose food safety nerds to the world of small food producers. Lastly, the guys talked about the round table discussion on “Bridging Gaps between Scientific Assessment of Risk and Public Perception” which was reported on Barfblog and Food Safety News. And of course, IAFP would not be a great meeting if there wasn’t Karaoke involved. Moving on from IAFP, Don noted that he’s following John Gruber and Merlin Mann's advice and is podcasting for just one person, Chuck Hass. Turns out that Chuck also sent an email about an upcoming publication on the dose-response curve for Helicobacter pylori (see FST 45). Ben then recalled the conversation about the Salmonella outbreak associated with the Holiday Inn and the article he wrote on Barfblog. Ben queried why employees wouldn’t tell management that they were sick but would tell the health department? Both Don and Ben concluded that it’s surely related to not getting paid while being off work! The discussion then turned to the Cyclospora messiness and that there is disagreement between the epidemiologists. While there is lots of bad advice out there, the most recent information indicates a link to prewashed salad mix to Taylor Farms de Mexico, though this information wasn’t available when ACSH reported that the “mystery was solved". The guys also noted Bill Marler’s interesting thoughts about disclosure as well as why naming a product too early can have consequences. The guys also re-iterating that washed fresh-cut salads don’t need additional washing. To finish off, Ben wanted to talk about Jimmy John’s who are looking at bringing back sprouts, but that they are considering this warning sign. Don felt that this approach was nonsense and that the risks of eating still outweigh the risks of not eating. Instead Don wanted to know about Jimmy John’s food safety program, such as Bob Sanderson’s approach at Jonathan Sprouts. However, from a risk communication perspective Ben wasn’t against the label though he felt that it could be improved. In the after dark the guys talked about Don’s video call with IFT, his appearance on SSKTN’s Show me your Mic (including the After Show me your Mic), preschool and the Food Safety Talk newsletter.

Food Safety Talk 45: My chicken is dry

6 augusti 2013 | 108 min

Ben had difficulty talking while eating, which didn’t matter too much while the guys discussed the weather. A link from fan Erin (see also barfblog coverage), on the emerging food-safety-expose genre got Don and Ben warmed up for the show. To follow up from FST 44, Ben’s H. pylori issues have been resolved, though one of his hockey friends had an interesting story involving yogurt. The guys then followed up on the mechanically tenderized beef discussion from FST 43 and FST 44, and a bit about Ben’s grad student’s research plan. The guys then took a pop culture detour thanks to Ben worrying about peaking to early (research wise speaking), which remind Don of a Dan Bern’s Tiger Wood song. The discussion also covered Sound City, and some Australian pop-culture with Muriel's Wedding and The Castle. In the bug trivia segment the guys focused on Vibrio parahaemolyticus, which is the other fast growing bacterium (c.f. FST 39) and can double every 7 minutes under optimal conditions. Don was familiar with this organism as he’s published about the effects of lime juice on V. parahaemolyticus in ceviche. The guys then tossed around some ideas for a follow up segment for when they run out of bugs for bug trivia which included using the IAFP 100 year celebration materials. The discussion then turned to a Food Safety News articles on the NC Farm Bill and Ben thought that there might be some unintended consequences to this Bill. The guys then discussed the broader issues related to the risks of producing food, especially produce, and what this means for liability. The guys agreed that in some cases there just aren’t identifiable contributing factors, such as in the Fayetteville outbreak, and contemplated that this might differ in terms of liability compared to a case where there is clear negligence. The focus then shifted to chickens, which was prompted by this paper in Journal of Food Safety. The rates of Campylobacter and Salmonella found on chickens purchased from farmer’s markets and supermarkets were similarly high. Don was also interested in a link shared by Andreas about raw chicken hand towel, especially because of the comments posted to it. To finish off the chicken theme the guys talked about a Salmonella Heidelberg outbreak linked to a single poultry producer. But the industry and USDA have been vewy, vewy quiet! Ben’s watching The Newsroom again and in the after dark the guys were frustrated by their iTunes ratings and that Carl Winter and even a dog food safety podcast episode was rating higher. Ben also shared the sacrifices he has to make to get new hockey skates. The guys finished off with a trail mix inspired Best in Show, Family Tree, Launch Bar and Food Safety Talk shirts.

Food Safety Talk 44: Stool Sampling Tools

22 juli 2013 | 118 min

The show started with Mr. Roboto, Brazilian Cheese Bread, the upcoming IAFP’s annual meeting in Charlotte, and StoryCorps (not to be confused with Adventure Time). At the IAFP meeting Ben will be stuffing bags at the Food Lion and Don will try to control the unruly Dr. Harris at her first board meeting. The guys then celebrated Canada Day with some pop culture such as The Tragically Hip, Rheostatics and Frampton Comes Alive! (as featured on FST 1), and Reality Bites. Ben and Don then turned their attention to Helicobacter pylori. Ben reported having had a belch inducing H. pylori infection, which was diagnosed by a breath test. It reminded Ben of Don’s asymptomatic H. pylori infection. Don wondered how Ben got exposed to H. pylori and whether it may have been foodborne, which Ben agreed was a possibility. In fact, Helicobacter pylori and Food Products indicates that the organism can also be widespread in some drinking water supplies. Don also noted an article on “Assessing the Risks and Benefits of Treating Helicobacter pylori Infection" which pointed at the possible commensal role of H. pylori. The discussion moved from gastrointestinal microflora, to soil and water microflora and ecology and the impact of microflora on safety of the produce grown in different areas. This turned into a broader discussion of farming and extension and the need for multifunctional teams, such as NoroCore and STEC CAP. In FST episode 43 the guys discussed the silliness of washing bananas, and Ben found yet another ridiculous article on the same topic. Don pointed out the lack of epidemiological evidence linking foodborne illness with bananas, though he recognized that “absence of evidence does not equal evidence of absence.” The earlier conversation about bananas prompted Don to post humorous photos of the individually wrapped bananas he found in the United Lounge at São Paulo airport. Don then shared an email from listener ‘Deep South’ who was wondering where mechanically tenderized beef was being sold. An FMI survey of the membership indicated that none of the responding members sold this type of beef. So while it appears that the product is predominantly sold through food service, Ben noted the lack of epidemiological evidence connecting illness outbreaks with food service. The guys then turned their attention to the Townsend Farm related Hepatitis A outbreak, which FDA has now linked to Pomegranate seeds. Ben applauded Bill Keene for focusing on employees first. Ben shared his thoughts about handling of pomegranate seeds and how they could become contaminated with Lynne Terry via Twitter. But are other producers learning from this and asking their suppliers the right questions? In the after dark the guys discussed Ben’s tenure application. Good luck, Ben.

Food Safety Talk 43: I'm Sorry I Smeared Poo

2 juli 2013 | 85 min

Don is now a VIP in Brazil, at least as measured by Internet speed, while Ben was trying to get some grad students onto the interwebs. The guys then talked a bit about pop culture and follow up, including how John Oliver is stepping into 'The Daily Show’, Don’s TiVo usage, Adventure Time on Netflix and Poop and Produce. The guys felt a little challenged by their rapid recording schedule, having only recorded a show a few days ago, and syncing their notes for the show using Dropbox. Don shared his podcast equipment challenges and some of his São Paulo photos (such as this, this and this). Ben shared his own peaceful Sunday morning experiences and the awesome Australian Laborastory. In the Bug Trivia segment the guys covered Trichinella spiralis. This little nematode is also known as the ‘pork worm’ though it is no longer commonly found in pork in developed countries. Ben likes this little critter and uses it to illustrate great public health communications that resulted in pork generally being cooked overly well. And Don was proud of the small role he played in getting the safe cooking temperature changed for chicken. The guys then shifted from overcooked pork to undercooked beef burgers. Ben shared some of the work his summer students were doing on ordering burgers and the risk information that is provided by serving staff. Don described how he would calculate the risk of illness from consuming a burger that was cooked to 145°F (62.7°C), something that the inquisitive Marge Perry was interested in. Ben noted that the USDA was going to implement a labeling rule for mechanically tenderized meat and the guys were happy to take the credit for this change. But they were the disappointed by other food safety failures going on around the country, such as the large outbreak related to Firefly restaurant. The guys seriously question the food safety practices at Firefly given the large number of foods associated with the outbreak. But applause went to the public health folks for being very quick in releasing the outbreak investigation reports.

Food Safety Talk 42: The Powerful Barbecue Lobby

27 juni 2013 | 103 min

Don rang in from São Paulo, Brazil, where he is spending some time thanks to a project funded by Scientists without Borders and managed by the Godfather (Godmother?) of the Brazilian Food Safety Mafia Bernadette Franco. But podcasting away from home is proving to be more challenging that he had imagined, especially when he leaves his computer in his hotel room. The guys announced the new “subscribe” feature on the Food Safety Talk website where listeners can subscribe to a email newsletter and share the show via various platforms. This prompted the guys to talk about their social media practices. iTunes ratings and sponsorship inquires are always welcome! Ben the shared his recent trip to Nebraska for STEC CAP Grant meetings and his tornado experiences. This included a discussion of mechanically tenderized beef and how FSIS is poised to release a labeling rule for these products (similar to Canada’s labeling regime discussed in FST 41). The guys discussed John Luchansky’s research and the actual versus theoretical risks of blade and needle tenderized beef. In the Bug Trivia segment the guys talked about E. coli O157:H7. A 1994 outbreak linked to fermented dry salami resulted in research by the same Luchansky, then at Food Research Institute (FRI), to assess the effect of USDA Method No. 7 (not Mambo No 5) on food safety. Ben commented that he had just finished Jeff Benedict’s book Poisoned, which is about the 1993 Jack-in-the-Box E. coli O157:H7 outbreak and both Ben and Don agreed that this was an important and easy read for anyone working in the food industry. The guys then talked about some other interesting food related books, including Cooked, Salt Sugar Fat and Catching Fire. Ben shared some information about relevant NC state regulations in relation to supplemental cooking rooms in North Carolina and Amazing Ribs got a special BBQ mention. While still on the E. coli O157 and BBQ theme, the guys then turned their attention to an E. coli O157 outbreak related to Georgia BBQ Shack. While iced tea, which the CDC knew could have high levels of bacteria back in 1996, has been on Don’s radar since the IAFP 2011 symposium on the safety of fountain-dispensed beverages. The guys then turned their attention to The Pueblo Chieftain article on clean, cook, and chill. The nonsense in this article made the guys so angry. Since when does washing bananas make a difference (unless you eat the peel) and whatever happened to cross-contamination and temperature control (think cantaloupes)? Don thought that one way of getting the message out was to present at conferences and publish in journals of organizations such as NEHA or NACCHO, or bring the environmental health folks to attend IAFP. In the after dark the guys talked about TabLinks, Brazilian VISA requirements, Carol Wallace (of HACCP: A Practical Approach fame), Daft Punk (👍👍) and The National (👎).

Food Safety Talk 41: Always Looking Out for Nuts

4 juni 2013 | 80 min

Don shared that he’s been flogging the podcast mercilessly during his recent travels. The guys then launched straight into the Bug Trivia segment, highlighting Clostridium perfringens, which can be a big problem particularly for meat processors who need to cool large cuts of cooked meat quickly (to meet the FSIS performance standard). Carl Custer’s notes indicate that it was infamous for causing gas gangrene. During cooking of meat the spores germinate and these can grow incredibly fast if the rate of cooling is inadequate. Luckily it generally doesn’t cause death, but can cause a potentially fatal disease called pig-bel especially in countries where cooked meat is held at room temperature for long periods of time. Ben has developed some food safety infosheets for this organism, including this one detailing an outbreak linked to a school event. The guys then turned their attention to baked goodies and that some things on the Internet are not true. Don referred to one of those typical urban legend emails warning people to discard their out-of-date pancake and cake mixes for risk of causing anaphylactic allergic reactions. Turns out that there is some truth to the matter as you can see from Snopes and this scientific article “An unusual case of anaphylaxis. Mold in pancake mix.” While there are some incorrect aspects to the story, Don would always advise people to not use food that has passed its best or sell by date because of the lower quality (the dates are there for a reason). The conversation then turned to canning as Ben, the self-proclaimed Canning King of Wake County NC, recently received a question about canning mushrooms. While the email appeared to be about quality, Ben’s concern was Clostridium botulinum (see bug trivia in FST 39) and hence he elevated this email to an 11 on the 1 to 10 scale. So, Ben passed on information on canning mushrooms from the National Center for Home Food Preservation. Don was also dealing with canning questions and was worried about people fiddling with established jam recipes for fear of a repeat of what happened in Cowichan with watermelon jelly. Ben then went on a Salmonella-fuelled hazelnut caper – he was grumpy about the lack of supplier information provided by the CFIA, although Lynne Terry from The Oregonian managed to find it out. Ben felt this information could be important to other distributers who would be able to make better decisions (provided they had the right food safety culture). Don noted that weenie public health folk, such as Dr. Eric Wilke, had Doug all fired up. Dr Wilke’s antics at the press conference turned serious foodborne illness outbreak into bizarre theater. Not cool, dude. The Salmonella outbreak from Fayetteville Hotelon the I-95 reminded Don of FST 11 and the guys discussed some of the ill-informed responses of public health officials after food borne illness outbreaks. Don and Ben then turned their attention to needle tenderized beef, which was prompted by the MeatingPlace opinion about this Consumer Reports article. While James Marsden was against labeling of mechanically tenderized beef, Canada has already moved to such a labeling requirement, although Doug had some questions about it. Ben had managed to find some research on cooking inoculated and mechanically tenderized beef, although the debate about it is ongoing. Both Ben and Don would prefer to have this type of product clearly labeled, although their preference is for naturally tender and flavorsome beef cuts (such as MSA graded beef). In the after dark the guys talked about Don’s upcoming trip to Brazil and Denmark, and Ben's trip to Nebraska.

Food Safety Talk 40: All in on Boogers

15 maj 2013 | 110 min

The guys started the show with some news and general chit chat, including hockey, an article about fighting bacteria with mucus, Linked In (perhaps the creepiest social network), Don’s Silver Beaver Award, surely a ’Major Award’, and the TV they are watching: Arrested Development, Adventure Time and Game of Thrones. The new ‘Food is the New Rock’ podcast (suggested by fan of the show Brian Sauder - @BSauders) that provides a blend of food and music topics, reminded Ben of this Freganism Barfblog article. Don then mentioned some interesting work The University of Iowa Computational Epidemiology Group was working on, which was followed by a discussion about IAFP annual conference and IAFP PDGs. The bug trivia segment focused on Staphylococcus aureus, which is ubiquitous in the human and animal buccal cavities. Staph produces a heat resistant enterotoxin in food, famous in part for causing the Chinese canned mushrooms outbreak. Don also noted that S. aureus poisoning was also known as Ptomaine poisoning. The guys then talked about this SciLogs article by Matt Shipman (from Ben and Matt YouTube fame) and why people might not care about grants that have been awarded, but are more interested in research outcomes. The discussion then turned to the Salmonella Saintpaul cucumber outbreak and Ben was surprised by the lack of media coverage this outbreak created. Don noted that cucumbers generally had high microbial counts, as did other fresh produce such as tomatoes and lettuce, and he wondered why there hadn’t been more outbreaks to date. Ben was wondering whether contamination might be related to the water used in greenhouse production, which reminded Don of a recent article on bacteria in surface waters. Don pondered whether high relative humidity in greenhouses might be related to the transfer of pathogens. The NSF’s article on the germiest kitchen items made Don and Ben so angry. They were flabbergasted by the lack of scientific rigor used in the work and in the reporting of it. The ‘helpful’ food safety messages in the article reminded Don of Merlin Mann’s “Old Butchers” post, which mentions the ‘useful’ Lifehacker article on using soap to clean dishes. The guys didn’t feel much better about the Consumer Reports article on ground turkey. They wondered about the low Campylobacter isolation rate and Don shared some concerns about the study that he had also discussed with Marge Perry. Ben and Don congratulated AMI on their spot on public response but they felt that the National Turkey Federation response lived up to its name. In the after dark the guys talked about Emitophobia, Dan Rockey’s research on Chlamydia and Don’s upcoming Brazil trip thanks to Scientists without Borders.

Food Safety Talk 39: Des Moines is Known for their Scallops

15 maj 2013 | 105 min

After discussing their podcast companion beverages, the guys got stuck into answering listener Tom’s (whom Ben met at the Consumer Federation of America’s National Food Policy conference) request for guidance on research areas in food safety. Don’s advice was that Tom should follow his passion and from there pick a university or faculty members to work with. This then turned into a broader discussion about education, with a focus on distance and online learning. Don then talked about his attendance at ISGP’s Food Safety, Security, and Defense: Focus on Technologies and Innovations conference in Verona, Italy, which operates under the Chatham House Rules (not to be confused with the Cider House Rules). Don really enjoyed the discussions between the scientific experts and policy makers and he enjoyed meeting Lynn Frewer. Don also talked about his and Dane’s recent visit to GOJO to discuss Dane’s PhD research topic. In the Bug Trivia segment, Ben talked about Clostridium botulinum, the ‘sausage poisoning’ bug, which Ben wrote about recently on Barfblog. The guys thought that tin-foiled potatoes caused unnecessarily large concern because of this outbreak, as most botulism cases are linked to ineffective home canning practices. While Ben had trouble pronouncing nitrosamines, he challenged Andreas to find papers by Gibson and Roberts on Clostridium and cured meats – Andreas found Factors controlling the growth of Clostridium botulinum types A and B in pasteurized, cured meats parts I, II, III, IV, V, and VI. The guys then talked about the Egg Rollie, as Erin wanted to know whether the cooked ‘egg rollie’ could be contaminated by raw egg as it rises. Ben wasn’t too concerned and Don pointed out that while there was a risk, the risks of illness from eating raw eggs were rather low. The conversation then turned to the Listeria and cantaloupes, as FDA was planning to undertake a survey of Listeria monocytogenes in US cantaloupe packing houses (here is the letter sent to the cantaloupe industry). Ben has been organizing industry workshops with Chris Gunter (who appeared on the show in Episode 3) and some others. Ben explained what he would do if he was a producer and FDA were about to visit his packing house for sampling. Don agreed with Ben’s strategy and pointed out that baseline information on pathogen prevalence on produce was needed. However, the guys couldn’t understand why the samples were not also going to be tested for Salmonella, which had been involved in more produce related outbreaks than Listeria. In addition, Don wasn’t convinced that this survey was the best use of public funds. This then reminded Don of a USA Today article on sequestration which included a Doug Powell quote, which Don also posted on his Tumblr stream. Ben sent a shout out to Ashley Chaifetz, a PhD student studying public policy, who wrote a Barfblog post on Salmonella in dog food (and this follow up post) and how she now longer trusted the dog food manufacturer. Finally the guys sent a big thank you to the folks at SHS Design who updated their FST logo for iTunes. In the after dark the guys talked about a couple of iTunes comments, their usual scheduling challenges, a potential guest, "Rappaz R.N. Dainja” and Science Online.

Food Safety Talk 38: Like an 80's Dating Show

25 april 2013 | 90 min

Once again, Skype and Call Recorder weren’t playing nicely for Ben while Don felt a bit like Michael Douglas in the Wonder Boys. Don has been investigating Google Hangouts for running a online live show though Michelle Danyluk didn’t think they could do a live show at IAFP, unless maybe it was in the format of an 80’s dating show, like the one on Mallrats. Ben had some follow up to his son, Jack, vomiting on a Delta plane reported in Episode 37 . While Ben initially thought the etiological agent was Astrovirus (which would make Jack ‘Astro Boy’) he wasn't sure after feeling the effects a week later. It even stopped Ben from fully enjoying the dinner he had at Fire with Michele. Ben then had some follow up about the state ag-gag laws. The guys were concerned about the protective approach instead of being open and transparent. The latter would also help the agriculture industry to create a greater understanding of food production. And sometimes an exposé (or Exposé) can change things for the better. In the new Bug Trivia segment, Don shared some information about Salmonella pulled together by Carl Custer. It turns out that Salmonella was named after a guy who didn’t discover it and after a disease that it didn’t cause – go figure. The discussion then turned to a Cryptosporidia-related outbreak in Bendigo, Australia. Ben felt that the public health messages in the article were conflicting (and incorrect). The guys disagreed with the advice that hand hygiene was important (in this instance) and were more inclined to believe that it was transmitted through swimming pools. In fact, crypto is a hardly little parasite for which alcohol based sanitizers and even chlorine aren’t effective. This reminded Don of a recent hepatitis A scare and an article that was published in the journal of Food Protection entitled “Cost Effectiveness of Vaccinating Food Service Workers against Hepatitis A Infection” which concluded a public health benefit to hospitality workers, but not patrons. This prompted a broader discussion about Hep A infected restaurant staff. The guys then turned from pastry chefs in restaurants to pastry in Greek university canteens. The guys were concerned about the results, though Don’s work on ready-to-eat foods in university canteens shows much, much lower levels. Well, maybe the staff in the Greek university canteens didn’t have time for training, just like the business that took part in a study by Campden BRI, which indicated that food safety training was hampered by lack of time. However, Don and Ben were skeptical about “43% [who] said food safety training was obstructed by the difficulties of checking the effectiveness of training programmes.” Ben then steered to conversation to writing journal articles and Don’s use of contour plots – he clearly is The Boss. Don’s contour plot shows the log increases in Listeria organisms given time and temperature, from which suitable consumer messages can be created. Before signing off, the guys then briefly talked about Doug Powell being fired from Kansas State for bad attendance and Don expressed his gratitude for all of Doug’s work, which helped him enormously over the years. And it looks like Doug’s keen to come on the podcast … so stay tuned. In the after dark, the guys talked about toilet paper dispensers for campers, though Ben’s missing the iPhone holder, and the Apple remote.

Food Safety Talk 37: Inoculating the Plane

9 april 2013 | 102 min

The guys started with some follow up on The Wire, The Newsroom, what colored food does to your poop, Mike Batz’ link to Craig Goldwyn’s Huffington Post article on sprouts, T. gondii in Romanian animals, and F’ed up. Aaron’s email then prompted a discussion about Plague Inc., the CDC’s interest in it and CDC’s own game Solve the Outbreak. The guys were impressed by how progressive the CDC is in terms of social media and new ways of engaging the public. Don then provided some info about HDScores, a company that plans to make Restaurant Inspection Scores from 3100 jurisdictions from the US, Canada and UK widely available. This prompted a discussion about making restaurant scores available to the public in an interpretable way. Ben shared his experiences from a recent trip to Calgary, where his 4 year old son Jack got sick, possibly with Norovirus. Ben was fascinated by Delta Airlines’ approach of dealing with the vomit problem, which involved plastic bags to contain the risk and coffee pods to manage the smell. Don was familiar with the approach thanks to Roderick on the Line. Ben didn’t agree with Delta’s decision to take them off plane first (thus inoculating the plane). It reminded him of two different articles. Both Don and Ben were glad Delta had a plan, even if they didn’t quite agree with the whole plan. Don then wanted to ask Ben about a Meatingplace article by Richard Raymond entitled Is our food safer than five years ago? (free registration needed to read). Ben explained why he didn’t agree with Richard’s arguments. Don agreed and asked aloud about conspiracy theories, not dissimilar from those surrounding New Coke. Don then wanted get Ben’s take on the IFT’s March 2013 media update. In fact both Ben and Don thought that these updates were way over the top and it reminded them of "The louder he talked of his honor, the faster we counted our spoons” and Doug Powell’s comment on Barfblog “I'm immediately suspicious of people … who say trust me.” Ben especially didn’t like that organizations say “trust us” and without telling people what the risks are and why they should be trusted. The discussion of food processing reminded Don of Richard Wrangham’s great book "Catching Fire: How Cooking Made Us Human.” The last thing on Ben’s agenda was Doug’s comparison between the porn industry and the food industry, which had resulted in a fair bit of backlash against the legendary Doug. Ben noted that Doug’s point was how the two industries differed in how they manage the risks, which people missed. And boy… you mention porn and people get excited.

Food Safety Talk 36: Better Collaboration Without Pants

26 mars 2013 | 104 min

Food Safety Talk 35: The Abuelas of Social Media

14 mars 2013 | 89 min

Don was excited about his new “Dan Benjamin approved” microphone and headphones and Ben was excited about Folding Text. After emailing with Marco, from the Neutral podcast, Don is planning on moving Food Safety Talk to Squarespace 6, which should allow them to get better download tracking information. Don and Ben also sent shout-outs to David Tharp (IAFP), Ian Jenson (Meat and Livestock Australia) and Renee Boyer’s Food Safety class. The discussion then returned to the reusable bag discussion (see FST 34), which was prompted by Tomas Aragon who shared his memo about the “Clickety-Clack” paper. In the memo Thomas pointed out that Klick and Wright had used the ICD-10 codes, for which there were 140 deaths during 2000-2010. However, 111 of these were due to Enterocolitis due to Clostridium difficile, leaving only 29 related to other intestinal infectious diseases. The guys took a quick pop culture detour to iTunes Match which had allowed Ben to rediscover Rancid. Don’s been listening to R. L. Burnside (not R. L. Stine), Bite Harder: The Music De Wolfe Studio Sampler, Vol. 2 and Holy F*ck. On return to food safety they guys discussed an article on Farmers Markets and FSMA and in particular the quote from Kate Flannery. Ben disagreed with Kate’s implication that greenhouse farming was without risks. Don agreed that the risks were different rather than non-existent. The guys then turned to the horse meat scandal in the UK, which is even reverberating through the popular culture twittersphere. Ben challenged Prof. Hugh Pennington’s comments that horse meat was safer than beef, as surely the denominator matters! The discussion then turned to barbeque and roadkill. While you’ll find some vaguely disturbing erotic images you probably won’t find a road kill recipe on the Amazing Ribs website. Ben did discuss the safety of eating road kill in this barfblog article. Road kill is apparently making a resurgence with those who are struggling with food security (i.e. having enough food to eat). Don has worked with Debra Palmer Keenan to help people make better choices in relation to food safety when they have to compromise on the foods they buy. Don had some more follow up from FST 34 in relation to washing coffee mugs. He found some silly advice in this Huffington Post article and he expressed his disgust with this Mamapedia article. This got Ben excited as his grad student, Ben, is working on how to engage people in food safety via social media. Ben’s research will focus on mommy blogs (but probably not Dani’s 2 Little Supeheroes blog or Portlandia's Parenting tips over the coming months. The discussion then turned to Doug’s poop cruise article and that someone sold a bio poop bag on Ebay for $15. Another Barfblog article reported on the closure of Union University in Jackson, Tennessee, due to norovirus and Don contemplated the irony of this happening at North Carolina State University, the home of the NoroCORE project. In the after dark the guys talked about beverages, iTunes Match and MobileMe, and Ben had some questions about establishing variances to food safety standards.

Food Safety Talk 34: Don't puke up the doughnuts

23 februari 2013 | min

Participating in the Krispy Kreme Challenge challenged Ben in more ways than one. Don is looking for a new podcasting mic and he is getting some guidance from Dan Benjamin’s guide. The guys discussed the download statistics for the podcast and Folding Text to manage their pre-show notes, as well as Don’s homework, The Newsroom (Canadian TV series), which prompted Don to correctly note the excessive plaid fashions. Bill Hallman had provided some further thoughts on the “no illness language” in recall notices (FST Episode 33) which led to a broader discussion about recalls, including one for Listeria in Crab Dip. The discussion continued with Listeria, namely Missa Bay LLC's recall due to Listeria in apple slices and the more recent FDA warning letter to the company. Don and Ben were surprised by where and how much Listeria was found by the FDA. The guys agreed that the publication of these warning letters was a good thing – not only for customers, but also to provide valuable information to suppliers of similar products – which reminded Ben of the Blue Pages for teachers. The guys then switched to the Chicago Tribune article “Triclosan: Anti-bacterial soaps called useless, potentially dangerous” that Don had been interviewed for (based on his publication “A Meta-Analysis of the Published Literature on the Effectiveness of Antimicrobial Soaps.”) The average benefit of antimicrobial soaps over normal soaps was about 0.5 log, or 63%, and Don explained that the benefits were greatest when the contamination levels of hands were high, for example after handling raw meat and poultry or after cleaning up vomit. Then Ben and Don got back into the reusable bag discussion. This was prompted by an article by Klick and Wright (not Watson and Crick). Klick and Wright combined Gerba, Williams and Sinclair’s research on bacteria in reusable shopping bags with a pathogenic E. coli related illnesses and deaths in hospital in the San Francisco area. They concluded that the ban on grocery bags led to an increase of 5.4 additional deaths per year, though Ben got really fired up on Barfblog about the lack of epidemiology and microbiology evident in the article. Don also took issue with a couple of lawyers mistaking correlation with causation and recalled FST Episode 19 where the guys had discussed reusable bags, which Carl Custer likes to call nickel bags (or check out this link). Ben then shared that that his department was advertising a local food extension / research position to collect evidence for a range of possible impacts of local food systems, including food safety, nutrition, or related areas. This led to a discussion about local food systems and Don was all in favor of fresh food, such as the locally source food available at Wegmans. In the after dark the guys geeked out with Folding Text, Markdown and its syntax, the octothorpe (not to be confused with Dr. Octavius from Spider-Man 2), Ben’s Garage Band workflow, Apple messages for the Mac, and Ken Finkleman.

Food Safety Talk 33: Fresh Produce Punk Rock Hippieness

7 februari 2013 | min

Food Safety Talk 32: Zombies and (Bleep)

24 januari 2013 | min

Food Safety Talk 31: The Christmas Holiday Spectacular

8 januari 2013 | min

Food Safety Talk 30: What Do I Owe Them? Some Toilet Paper?

24 december 2012 | min

Food Safety Talk 29: In a tin can insulated with towels

27 november 2012 | min

Food Safety Talk 28: Flaming Lips, a food safety intervention?