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Welcome to the world of human intelligence. Chief Change Officer is a Global Top 3% podcast on Listen Notes, ranked #1 in Careers and Top 30 in Business in the US on Apple Podcasts, and Global Top 10 in Careers in over 20 countries across America, Europe, and Asia Pacific.
At Chief Change Officer, we harness change as a superpower. This power is fuelled by role models who candidly and generously share their human intelligence. This isn’t digitised knowledge or AI-generated advice; it’s real, time-tested, experience-driven intelligence that blends logic and love, art and science.
This show marks the 18th career transition for the host Vince Chan. Over the course of 17 prior transitions, countless role models have guided and inspired me. At critical junctions, no matter how lost or despaired I felt, I emerged stronger, better, and happier. Now, I’m here to pass that superpower on to you, uniting global voices to become your role models for career and life transformation.
If you’re a growth progressive, a black horse, someone who doesn’t fit the conventional mold and is determined to create your own life and career playbook—this is for you. Our mission is to help you become wiser in action, clearer in thought, and more ambitious in pursuing the change you seek. If this resonates, then you are a Chief Change Officer.
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Katie Curry knows a thing or two about managing change—both the planned kind and the “what just happened?” variety. From Bulgaria to Wall Street, she’s reinvented herself more times than a Broadway actor swapping costumes mid-performance. In this episode, Katie spills the tea on how she keeps thriving while leading, learning, and pivoting.
Her secret sauce? It’s a three-part recipe: 1) Build your superpowers (yes, you have one—it’s just in beta), 2) Choose your squad wisely (no toxic vibes allowed), and 3) Embrace change, but don’t treat it like a trend. Katie reminds us that pivots should be thoughtful, not careless leaps into the void. Think strategy, not drama.
Katie also dives into her Gen Z experiences—raising two at home and leading them at work. Spoiler alert: they’re not just TikTok pros. Gen Z craves meritocracy, speed, and authenticity. And as a leader, Katie’s all about keeping it real while learning a thing or two from her “reverse mentors.”
This episode isn’t just about career moves or navigating a multigenerational workforce—it’s a call to action to build real relationships, develop human skills, and, most importantly, laugh while you’re at it. Because if Katie can salsa dance through change, you can, too.
Key Highlights of Our Interview:Raising Gen Z Insights
“As a mother of two Gen Z kids, I’ve learned patience, adaptability, and the art of balancing guidance with independence—lessons that translate directly into leading younger teams.”
A Shift Toward Meritocracy
“Gen Z values meritocracy over hierarchy. Companies that embrace authenticity, clarity, and speed in execution will thrive. Those that cling to old models risk losing their edge.”
The Power of Reverse Mentorship
“I love working with Gen Z. They’ve taught me more than I could have imagined through reverse mentorship. It’s a two-way street—I share wisdom; they share fresh insights.”
Finding Your Superpower
“Success starts with understanding your strengths. If you don’t know them yet, that’s fine—it’s a process. Focus on gaining skills and developing your unique superpower.”
The Power of Community
“Surround yourself with a diverse community—different generations, experiences, and viewpoints. It makes life richer and challenges you to think beyond your natural boundaries.”
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Katie Curry isn’t just fluent in the language of risk; she’s turned it into an art form.
From Bulgaria to Wall Street, from crunching derivatives to leading creatives, Katie’s journey is a masterclass in calculated reinvention. Whether managing teams of credit analysts, upskilling fresh graduates, or inspiring her kids to “witness the magic of spreadsheets” during COVID, Katie shows how resilience is more than just a buzzword—it’s a career superpower.
She dives into the delicate dance between logic and intuition, embracing curiosity and even a little magic along the way. For Katie, success isn’t about climbing a ladder—it’s about hiking trails, salsa dancing, and leading with humility while creating impact. With a passion for mentoring and a knack for turning failures into growth opportunities, Katie redefines leadership as a long game of learning, laughter, and post-traumatic growth.
This episode is packed with nuggets on pivoting with purpose, embracing risk, and, most importantly, making resilience look like a fine art. Whether you’re navigating Wall Street or your own career crossroads, Katie’s insights will leave you inspired (and maybe a little braver).
Key Highlights of Our Interview:From Small Town Dreams to the Big Apple
“I grew up in a small town in Bulgaria during communism. My first big transformation was coming to the United States. Traveling through New York City’s financial district, I thought, ‘One day, I’d love to work here.’”
Risk as a Career Compass
“Risk is the theme of my career—understanding it, quantifying it, and mitigating it. But it’s also about taking risks and seizing opportunities.”
Mental Toughness Through Change
“Change can be nerve-wracking, but I’ve learned to approach it with excitement instead of fear. It’s like lifting weights—you don’t just maintain, you grow stronger to tackle even bigger challenges.”
The Joy of Discovery
“With age and experience, I’ve learned to pursue paths less mapped out, finding joy in the unknown and seeing reinvention as a journey of discovery.”
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In this episode, Tin Pei Ling from Singapore unpacks her remarkable journey as a young parliamentarian, MBA graduate, and mother.
She shares how the three-stage change model—unfreeze, adapt, refreeze—became her blueprint for navigating personal and professional transitions. With candid reflections on balancing leadership and life, she highlights the trade-offs and support systems that made it all possible.From advocating for women’s empowerment to tackling mental health and aging population challenges, Tin’s work embodies resilience and action. Drawing inspiration from Lee Kuan Yew’s leadership principles and her own belief in the power of regret as a driver for growth, she emphasizes the importance of stories, books, and meaningful connections in shaping a better future.
Key Highlights of Our Interview:The Three-Stage Change Model
“Change begins with unfreezing—understanding the need and motivation to move forward. But it’s in the second stage, where you think like a social psychologist, that you navigate the hardest part: adapting yourself and your environment. And finally, in refreezing, you solidify the new behaviors and build a foundation for sustainable growth.”
The Power of an MBA Journey
“Pursuing an MBA at a young age gave me a platform to learn from peers with diverse experiences. It wasn’t just the coursework, but the exposure to different perspectives that built the momentum for lifelong learning and growth.”
Advocating for Women’s Aspirations
“Balancing multiple roles isn’t easy, especially for women. My journey as a working mother has inspired me to advocate for better support systems, so women can pursue their dreams without sacrificing their personal or professional growth.”
Balancing Leadership and Motherhood
“There’s no such thing as perfect balance—there are always trade-offs. As a mother, an elected member of parliament, and a full-time professional, I’ve faced moments of guilt, like missing my son’s rapid growth during a general election. But with an ecosystem of support, I’ve managed to fulfill my roles and give back to my community.”
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In this episode, I chat with Ian Myers, founder and CEO of Oceans, a talent agency bridging skilled professionals in Sri Lanka with U.S. companies.
Ian’s impressive journey includes scaling his business from zero to $10 million in under two years, but that’s just the tip of the iceberg.
A fellow Tintin enthusiast, Ian’s career has been an adventure in itself—spanning the U.S., Japan, literature, banking, venture capital, entrepreneurship, and gaming. His mantra? Follow your gut, embrace experiences, adapt, and keep moving forward.
Key Highlights of Our Interview:Why Tintin Beats Tech Titans: Ian’s Unconventional Role Model
“My role model is Tintin. He’s always up for an adventure, exploring new places, and embracing different cultures. That’s the kind of life I want to live.”
Zen and the Art of Leadership: How Buddhism Shaped My Approach to Chaos
“Buddhism has a lot of excellent teachings that are applicable to running a business… It’s at its core, a method of grounding yourself through honesty in your reality and the potential of everything around you.”
Comparison Anxiety: Why Scrolling LinkedIn Might Be Ruining Your Life
“I talk to young people today, and they’re always comparing themselves. They’ll say, ‘Oh, this person who went to my college is now a vice president. My life is ruined.’ I’ve never really worried about my career; I just follow what’s interesting.”
Experiencing Ageism Across Cultures: From Japan to CEO at 26
“In Japan, age almost becomes the most important thing about you—your track record and success play a much smaller role. That was something I couldn’t personally tolerate.”
Skeptical by Nature: Why Ian Questions AI Hype
“The technology is impressive and important, but like most great innovations, the adoption curve will likely be much longer than people expect. If you look back at tech predictions, the timeline for changing the world is almost always too short.”
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Part One.
Layoffs and corporate shake-ups seem to be the norm these days, and Benedikt Oehmen has lived through it. After 17 years at Blizzard, known for its iconic gaming creations, he faced the unexpected reality of layoffs. While his time with Blizzard was largely rewarding, the ending was a difficult transition. Today, Benedikt is using his experience to support others in similar situations, sharing practical advice and his “Big Three” strategies from his book to help people overcome setbacks and thrive again.Key Highlights of Our Interview:
From Physicist to Gamer at Blizzard
From 17 Years of Loyalty to Facing Layoffs: When Blizzard Prioritized Profit Over People
“I started with Blizzard in 2005, and by 2018, after 13 years, the focus had shifted from creating epic experiences for gamers to just making more money.”
Breaking Free from the Corporate Overlord: Coaching Passionate Geeks on Their Own Terms
“Bound to a corporate overlord who tells me what to do and where my priorities are. And all my efforts basically go towards making rich people even richer in a sense."
From Panic to Possibility: How to Flip Career Transitions into Exciting New Opportunities
Learning in Disguise: How the “Big Three” Turns Mistakes into Milestones
“Being kind to me is all about self-acceptance, embracing the good things in our life and not looking at what we think we are missing.”
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Part Two.
Once upon a time in LA, I worked at TCW Asset Management, managing billion-dollar bond funds with Jeffrey Gundlach, the “Bond King.” Today, I’m talking with someone who takes a different investment route—Collin Plume, an expert in precious metals.
This conversation isn’t about selling gold; it’s about tackling real-life challenges like family finance, retirement planning, and raising financially savvy kids. If you’re navigating any of these areas, Collin’s insights and inspiring journey will give you plenty to think about.
Part 2 of a 2-part series on Collin’s people-first approach to building financial security.
Key Highlights of Our Interview:Gold, Real Estate, and Learning New Tricks: Why Diversifying is the New Smart
“Be willing to learn about a new investment or a new strategy every year, whether you decide to do it or not. But I think being willing to learn about it is important. It will help you and it’ll keep you sharp.”
Beware of Finfluencer Hype: Not Everything That Shines Is Gold
“Too often, people take influencers at face value, believing that the most engaging video equals the best advice. In reality, it’s important to fact-check and do your own research because many influencers are just paid promoters, not experts.”
Do Your Research: Don’t Let Algorithms Make Your Financial Decisions
“Algorithms don’t care if the advice is good; they only care if the content is appealing. So when it comes to financial decisions, it’s on you to dig deeper, check multiple sources, and make sure the influencers you follow are legit.”
The Real Cost of Reckless Spending: Teaching Financial Discipline to the Next Generation
“As a family, we prioritize experiences like travel and education over material goods. I’ve shown my children the gold and silver I’ve set aside for them and explained how these assets will be worth something significant in the future. Whether they want to start a business or pay for college, these investments will be there for them."
“I make sure my kids know that money isn’t something to be taken lightly. Whether it’s explaining mortgages to my 8-year-old or discussing the importance of not being wasteful with their toys, they need to understand that everything has a cost. I often use examples like Disneyland—where you can easily spend thousands in just a few days."
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Part One.
Once upon a time in LA, I worked at TCW Asset Management, managing billion-dollar bond funds with Jeffrey Gundlach, the “Bond King.” Today, I’m talking with someone who takes a different investment route—Collin Plume, an expert in precious metals.
This conversation isn’t about selling gold; it’s about tackling real-life challenges like family finance, retirement planning, and raising financially savvy kids. If you’re navigating any of these areas, Collin’s insights and inspiring journey will give you plenty to think about.
Part 1 of a 2-part series on Collin’s people-first approach to building financial security.
Key Highlights of Our Interview:From Childhood Coin Collector to Precious Metals Expert: How Silver Sparked a Lifelong Passion
“I received silver coins as a child, and even though they were worth just 25 cents on the surface, I learned they were actually worth much more. That stuck with me and led me to see gold and silver as overlooked assets.”
Noble Gold: The Three Careers That Made It Happen
“Insurance taught me customer service. Real estate taught me employee loyalty. And precious metals? That taught me marketing. Together, those experiences became the foundation for Noble Gold.”
It’s All About the People: Why Noble Gold Invests in Human, Not Just AI
“I realized early on that it’s not about what you’re selling—it’s about the people. Everything we do at Noble Gold is focused on creating the best possible human experience. While other companies are going all-in on AI, we’ve hired actual people to build relationships.”
Gold Bars Under the Mattress: Why Some Investors Want to Feel Their Wealth
“As funny as it sounds, some people might still stash their gold under the bed. It’s all about having control—physical, tangible control over your investments.”
Gold to the Rescue: Beating Inflation and Outpacing Bank Returns
“In a time of soaring inflation, 4% returns in the bank aren’t enough. Gold, up 27%, is proving to be a more reliable way to keep up with the rising cost of living.”
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Ral West is one of those people whose story stays with you. Over four decades as an entrepreneur, she’s seen it all.
In her mid-twenties, she took the plunge and started her first business. That bold move led to running a charter air service between Alaska and Hawaii for 25 years, flying wide-body jets with her husband. Selling it to Alaska Airlines was a career highlight—but far from the finale.
Since then, she’s owned small cruise ships, invested in real estate, and continued building her legacy.
Now, Ral dedicates her time to helping other entrepreneurs achieve what she has: balancing business success with a fulfilling life. Her journey is real, raw, and packed with lessons for dreamers everywhere.
Key Highlights of Our Interview:Challenging Generational Norms
“Early in my career, working for my father, I hit the glass ceiling. He came from a different generation, and his views were, let’s say, a bit old-fashioned. But I decided, ‘Thanks, Dad—I’ll take it from here.’ And I broke away to chart my own path.”
Juggling Act: The Exhausting Middle Years
“Between 35 and 55, I was stretched thin—running a business, raising young kids, volunteering. Sleep felt like a luxury. My health suffered, my marriage struggled, and I couldn’t do it all.”
The Breakthrough: Building Systems and Letting Go
“I learned the hard way that trying to do everything myself wasn’t sustainable. I created systems, implemented processes, and built a team I could trust. Using metrics and data-driven management, I structured my business so it could run smoothly—whether I was there or not.” The Slow Burn of Transformation
“Building systems, processes, and a reliable team didn’t happen overnight. It was years in the making. I started small—reading books like The E-Myth by Michael Gerber, going back to college, and studying with mentors like Robert Kiyosaki. Each step added a piece to the puzzle.”
Bite-Sized Delegation: Starting Small
“You don’t need massive financial success to start delegating. It starts with breaking down your daily tasks into bite-sized pieces and identifying what you can transfer to someone else.”
Turning Intuition Into Systems
“One of my toughest challenges was documenting decision-making processes—like when to increase advertising spend. It took weeks of introspection and trial and error before I realized I was relying on sales trends over a three-day period. Once I had clarity, I turned it into a system my team could follow, even when I wasn’t there.”
Creating Culture: Embodying Values and Principles
“It wasn’t just about systems and metrics; it was about building a team that shared my values. From customer service to feedback collection, we worked hard to create a culture that prioritized our principles.”
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Part Two.
At the height of her real estate career, Athena Brownson’s life was derailed by Lyme disease. For eight years, she’s faced chronic pain and intensive treatments, reshaping every part of her world. As Athena puts it, “If life didn’t give us adversity and challenges…”
Yesterday, she recounted the early days of her diagnosis, the fight to survive, and the harsh realities of living with this poorly understood condition. Today, in Part 2, Athena will reveal how she turned survival into thriving and rebuilt her career on her own terms.
Key Highlights of Our Interview:Retraining the Brain
“Pain puts the brain in fight-or-flight mode, and it can get stuck there. So it’s on us to train our minds to tell our bodies we’re okay, to push through and find relief.”
The Power of a Routine
“For me, routines are huge. My toolkit includes morning and evening rituals – breathwork, meditation, journaling, writing affirmations. I remind myself every day: I am healthy. I am healing. My body can get through this.”
The Art of Delegation
“Delegation isn’t just about getting things off your plate; it’s about giving others a chance to shine. My illness showed me I can’t do everything, nor should I. Letting go allows others to thrive, and it’s empowering to see them do what they love.”
Building My Tribe
“Finding the right people was a decade-long journey, but now I have a team around me who would do anything for me. They’re not just coworkers; they’re my support system, my tribe. I know they’re here for me, health and all, and I wouldn’t be where I am without them.”
The Power of Pen and Paper
“Writing by hand does something special. Seeing the words you put down lets them sink in, letting you visualize and internalize them in a unique way.”
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Part One.
At the height of her real estate career, Athena Brownson’s life was derailed by Lyme disease. For eight years, she’s faced chronic pain and intensive treatments, reshaping every part of her world. As Athena puts it, “If life didn’t give us adversity and challenges…”
In this episode, she recounts the early days of her diagnosis, the fight to survive, and the harsh realities of living with this poorly understood condition. Tomorrow, in Part 2, Athena will reveal how she turned survival into thriving and rebuilt her career on her own terms.
Key Highlights of Our Interview:The Hidden Threat of Lyme Disease
“I had no idea what Lyme disease was before I was diagnosed with it. It’s the fastest growing epidemic in the United States, and it can turn life upside down.”
From Athlete to Survivor
“My life has made a complete 180 from being a professional athlete to just trying to get through each day. It’s a nightmare I wouldn’t wish on anyone.”
When Life Becomes a Series of Challenges
“It’s hard not to get stuck in the mud when you’re dealing with something so challenging and constant… chronic pain, chronic fatigue, enough to make anyone want to stay in bed and not do anything.”
Creating a Toolkit for Every Day
“How do we pivot our mentality? How do we create our toolkit of things to get us through each day, even when we don’t want to? Sometimes it’s as simple as blasting favorite music or making a great cup of coffee.”
Becoming Your Own Biggest Advocate
“With Lyme, I’ve learned that you have to be your own biggest advocate. It’s about mental resilience, surrounding yourself with the right people, and finding those anchors to push forward.”
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For the first time, my podcast comes full circle!
Though I started and run this show in Hong Kong, I’ve yet to feature a guest from right here in my home city—until today.
Meet May Yeung: a teaching artist, founder of the charity Art of My Family, cancer survivor, and proud mom to an 14-month-old cutie. Through art, May is reshaping lives and championing sustainability, mental health, and social inclusion right here in Hong Kong.
In a city known for its financial might, May shows us a path of passion and purpose, proving that art can spark meaningful change. Bonus? Our youngest guest yet—her 14-month-old son—is along for the ride. Stay tuned!
Key Highlights of Our Interview:3:17—From Wall Scribbles to Ceramics: A Childhood Steeped in Art
“From the time I was around two years old, I would draw on walls before I could even write my name. By five, my father and I were creating ceramics together. At age 12, my fascination with dadaism and pop art gave me the conviction to become an artist.”
"I met Professor Jeff Oppenheimer who gave a lecture on integrating art into daily life, and daily life into art, and the contents of this lecture really helped to form the framework and direction of my art to this day."
6:00—Where Art Meets Music: How Music Has Influenced Her Art Creation
8:41—From Crunching Numbers to Crafting Impact: How Finance Led May to Art and Social Change
11:20—Faith Over Fear: How Battling Cancer Transformed a Perfectionist into a Celebrator of Life’s Small Wins
"I think the cancer experience really let me feel a greater sense of conviction to serve the underprivileged"
16:25—Art for Archer: How Motherhood and Heritage Shape Her Creations
18:09—Dim Sum and Chinese Checkers: Weaving Hong Kong’s Culture into Every Piece of Art
21:34—Memorable Art Pieces “What If” and “Blossom Love”: Sculpting Bridges Between Cultures and Endless Possibilities
23:19—From Corporate CSR to Creative Compassion: The Birth of Art of My Family
30:00—May’s Life Mission to Inspire the Next Generation: The Three C’s of Art Education and the Role of a Teaching Artist
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Part Two.
Ever left a toxic boss or workplace, hoping for a fresh start, only to land in the same chaos at your new job? It’s a frustratingly common cycle.
The truth is, office politics are everywhere. From power plays and subtle maneuvers to that colleague who always seems to win, navigating workplace dynamics can be exhausting.
In this two-part series, leadership expert Jennifer Selby Long joins me to unpack why office politics happen, how some people thrive in politically charged environments, and why others struggle. We’ll explore toxic cultures, power dynamics, and the hidden forces shaping your work life—and how to navigate them without losing yourself along the way.
Feeling stuck or burned out? These episodes are packed with relatable stories and actionable insights to help you take your next step forward.
Key Highlights of Our Interview:Talent vs. Tactics: Why Performance Alone Doesn’t Guarantee Success
“In corporate environments, it’s often not the most skilled or hardworking employees who thrive—it’s those adept at navigating office politics. Top performers may drive results, but their brilliance can threaten insecure leaders, creating a system where political tact outshines true talent.”
The Right Culture for the Right Person
“Some thrive in competitive political environments; others find them draining. The key is identifying whether your personal interests align with the culture around you. The fit matters more than fighting a system that may not suit you.”
No Permanent Friends, No Permanent Enemies—Just Interests
“Drawing from the wisdom of Martin Luther King’s attorney, Clarence Jones: the game of politics is about aligning interests, not forging everlasting alliances. Understanding this can shift how you approach your workplace dynamics.”
Burnout and Disengagement: The Fallout of Neglecting Talent
“When talent is neither respected nor recognized, it creates a workplace rife with disengagement and burnout. Organizations lose not just individuals but the potential for meaningful progress, leaving behind a culture where playing the game matters more than delivering value.”
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Part One.
Ever left a toxic boss or workplace, hoping for a fresh start, only to land in the same chaos at your new job? It’s a frustratingly common cycle.
The truth is, office politics are everywhere. From power plays and subtle maneuvers to that colleague who always seems to win, navigating workplace dynamics can be exhausting.
In this two-part series, leadership expert Jennifer Selby Long joins me to unpack why office politics happen, how some people thrive in politically charged environments, and why others struggle. We’ll explore toxic cultures, power dynamics, and the hidden forces shaping your work life—and how to navigate them without losing yourself along the way.
Feeling stuck or burned out? These episodes are packed with relatable stories and actionable insights to help you take your next step forward.
Key Highlights of Our Interview:Finding Your Ally Among the Majority
“In political environments, success hinges on securing a powerful ally. Aligning your interests with theirs and elevating them as a leader in your cause is essential if you plan to stay and thrive in such an environment.”
When Conversations Clash, Progress Pauses
“Business meetings often default to task-focused debates where differing perspectives turn into verbal standoffs. Rarely do teams pause to acknowledge the conflict and approach it constructively, missing opportunities to uncover deeper understanding.”
No Permanent Friends, No Permanent Enemies—Just Interests
“Drawing from the wisdom of Martin Luther King’s attorney, Clarence Jones: the game of politics is about aligning interests, not forging everlasting alliances. Understanding this can shift how you approach your workplace dynamics.”
Assumptions: The Silent Saboteur
“Most conflicts arise not from genuine disagreement but from unchecked assumptions about others’ motives or goals. Pausing to clarify and validate these assumptions can eliminate a significant portion of perceived conflict.”
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Jennifer Selby Long, the executive coach for tech leaders with 30 plus years of experience, dives into the art of navigating organizational politics and leading effective change.
She explores the roots of workplace power struggles, from unhealthy leadership dynamics to competing stakeholder needs, and shares how empathy can transform political challenges into progress. Jennifer breaks down common missteps in handling ineffective bosses and highlights the importance of aligning personal and organizational goals during times of transformation. Whether you’re managing a team or managing your own career pivot, her insights offer a practical roadmap for thriving in complex environments.
Key Highlights of Our Interview:Aligning Change with Personal Motivations
“People don’t move mountains for stock prices or cost savings. They do it when the change connects to their personal ‘why’—what matters most to them as individuals.”
Recognize the Root of Politics
“Politics can stem from unhealthy leadership, but more often, they arise from competing needs and varied skill levels among stakeholders. Identifying the source is key to navigating them.”
Empathy as a Superpower
“The path through political challenges begins with empathy. Understand the needs of those with power—even if you think they don’t deserve it—and align your strategy with their goals.”
Avoid Playing Psychologist
“Trying to diagnose your boss’s issues only disempowers you. Focus on what you can control instead of guessing why your boss behaves the way they do.”
Assess the Real Problem
“Ask yourself: Is the boss genuinely ineffective, or am I resisting the changes they’re implementing? Recognizing your own resistance can help you approach the situation constructively.”
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From her accidental start in change management in the 90s to coaching today’s tech leaders, Jennifer Selby Long’s journey is all about helping people navigate and lead change effectively.
Jennifer shares how she transitioned from I.T. training to founding a coaching practice that specializes in guiding leaders through the human side of change. She explains why technical processes are only part of the solution and how the real challenge lies in influencing others—peers, leaders, and even oneself—to embrace transformation. With decades of experience, she unpacks the key to thriving amidst conflict and complexity: mastering change leadership.Key Highlights of Our Interview:
From IT Troubleshooting to People-Centric Change
“Back in the 90s, tech resistance often came down to one thing: it didn’t work well enough. Today, that’s no longer the case. Technology works—it’s the people and their habits that need shifting.”
The Human Side of Digital Transformation
“Digital transformation isn’t just about new tools; it’s about reshaping roles, mindsets, and entire workflows.”
The Power of Hope in Change
“Hope isn’t just a warm fuzzy feeling—it’s a vision of life 12 to 18 months from now, shaped by the best possible outcome of the change. And it has to connect with each person’s ‘why,’ not just the company’s goals.”
Patience: A Leader’s Greatest Ally
“Change happens in waves. While a leader may glimpse the new shore, their team might only see endless water. Impatience doesn’t help—it’s self-awareness and patience that bring everyone along.”
Self-Doubt: It’s Not You, It’s Your Brain
“When self-doubt creeps in, it’s your brain’s saboteur neural networks firing up, not a reflection of your abilities. Recognizing this can stop sabotage before it derails you.”
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From mechanical engineering in India to leading tech roles at Square and Atlassian in Silicon Valley, Gagan Sandhu’s career is a masterclass in adaptability and growth.
Now the CEO and Co-Founder of Xillion, a platform empowering financial independence, Gagan shares how embracing knowledge-driven pivots—like switching to tech in his late 20s—has fuelled his success. He unpacks the myths of financial freedom, tackles ageism in the workplace, and explains why modern careers require constant reinvention.
This is part two of a two-part series, offering a roadmap for navigating change, mastering skills, and living intentionally, no matter your stage in life.
Key Highlights of Our Interview:The Trap of Asset Rich, Cash Poor
“Financial independence isn’t about piling up assets like real estate without liquidity. It’s about understanding cash flow, compounding returns, and making smart investments tailored to your goals.”
Two Sides of the Same Coin
“Financial independence isn’t just about planning for tomorrow—it’s about defining today. The idea is to align your present choices with the freedom to pursue passions and live meaningfully.”
The Role of Finfluencers
“They offer quick tips and digestible content, often catering to a younger audience. But their motives can sometimes be tied to promotions—whether it’s a bank account or an investment product. Their advice might not always be impartial.”
A Balanced Perspective
“At Xillion, we take a different path. While we do share nuggets of wisdom on platforms like LinkedIn and TikTok, we focus on being our own voice of authority rather than relying on external influencers. This way, authenticity remains at the core of our brand.”
The 10-Year Career Mindset
“Careers aren’t linear 30-year paths anymore. Every decade or so, you need to rediscover yourself. I’ve done it multiple times—starting as a mechanical engineer, pivoting to programming, then management, and finally launching my own company. Reinvention is the new normal.”
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From mechanical engineering in India to leading tech roles at Square and Atlassian in Silicon Valley, Gagan Sandhu’s career is a masterclass in adaptability and growth.
Now the CEO and Co-Founder of Xillion, a platform empowering financial independence, Gagan shares how embracing knowledge-driven pivots—like switching to tech in his late 20s—has fuelled his success. He unpacks the myths of financial freedom, tackles ageism in the workplace, and explains why modern careers require constant reinvention.
This is part one of a two-part series, offering a roadmap for navigating change, mastering skills, and living intentionally, no matter your stage in life.
Key Highlights of Our Interview:From Machines to Tech: Chasing the Future
“The pace of innovation in mechanical engineering had slowed, but I was hungry for more. Transitioning into tech wasn’t straightforward—it took continents, years, and relentless effort, but it was fueled by a clear driver: knowledge.”
The Xillion Leap
“When my learning plateaued in corporate roles, starting Zillion became my next knowledge adventure. Building something from scratch offered an accelerated learning curve and the chance to apply everything I’d gathered.”
Business School: Filling the Gaps
“For me, business school wasn’t about a career leap; it was about plugging knowledge gaps. Understanding accounting, marketing, and finance became crucial to having meaningful conversations at work, even as a tech leader.”
Redefining Financial Independence
“It’s not about flashy buzzwords or retiring early—it’s about having the freedom to choose your path. For me, it meant leaving the corporate grind to build something meaningful, armed with a clear, numbers-driven plan.”
Crunching the Numbers
“My financial independence formula wasn’t guesswork. I calculated five years of living expenses, education costs, and retirement needs. It’s basic math, but staying on top of expenses and cash flow gave me the clarity to leap.”
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Holly Bond, once a franchise owner and now the President of Facet Recruitment, spills the secrets of blending old-school charm with modern tech in recruiting.
From fax machine résumés to navigating an AI-driven hiring world, Holly’s seen it all. She dishes on the power of networking (spoiler: it’s not about business cards and stale canapés), the importance of bold moves (sometimes you just email anyway), and why being real beats AI algorithms every time. With wisdom, wit, and a knack for finding hidden talent, Holly reminds us that while AI might help, people are still the heart of every great hire.Key Highlights of Our Interview:
From Focus Groups to Foundations
“When we launched Facets, we started with brutal honesty: focus groups full of blunt feedback about recruiters. We listened, and we built a company rooted in empathy and care.”
Breaking the Commission Chain
“Recruiting isn’t about commissions; it’s about people. I refused to return to a model where clients matter more than candidates. Instead, I built a team paid for their passion, not percentages.”
Catching What AI Misses
“If AI had done my recruitment, I would’ve slipped through the cracks. Boolean searches don’t see potential outside the box. Humans do. That’s why we look beyond traditional roles, exploring adjacent sectors for talent.”
Spotting the Unsung Stars
“A recruiter’s superpower? Seeing someone’s potential before they do. When I reached out to a candidate in her 60s, she couldn’t believe I meant her. But age? It’s just a number—wisdom wins every time.”
Putting Yourself Out There
“Take risks, be bold, and let people know what you’re looking for. Whether it’s an informational interview or a thoughtful message, putting yourself out there often leads to unexpected opportunities—sometimes even before the job officially exists.”
The True Value of a Strong Network
“A broad network isn’t just about advancing your career; it’s about helping others too. Being able to connect someone to the right opportunity or advice is the most rewarding part of building genuine, lasting relationships.”
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Holly Bond, a serial entrepreneur and President of Facet Recruitment in Halifax, Canada, shares her transformative journey from building a groundbreaking children’s fitness franchise to navigating the tough lessons of entrepreneurship.
Holly’s story unpacks the highs and lows of taking bold leaps, from landing a national TV spot that kickstarted her franchise dreams to facing the brink of personal and professional loss. Through mentorship and hard-earned wisdom, Holly reveals the importance of listening to trusted advisors, learning from failure, and maintaining the courage to take risks. Her candid reflections inspire listeners to embrace change, make bold moves, and never let fear of failure hold them back.Key Highlights of Our Interview:
The Highs and the Crash
“We sold 11 franchises, won awards, and partnered with an animation company to integrate exercise into kids’ shows. Then the 2009 recession hit, and it all came crashing down. But every tough moment was a lesson in resilience.”
From Local to Global Buzz
“After a single news segment, I came home to over 100 emails from people wanting franchises—from Canada to Dubai. It was surreal, exciting, and chaotic. I had to build the plane while flying it.”
Racing Against Time
“I’ve always felt like I’m running to catch up, maybe because I took 17 years to finish my degree or because my mom passed away at the age I am now. That sense of urgency—it’s hardwired into me.”
The Fear of Regret
“I don’t want to be 85 and look back saying, ‘I wish I’d done that.’ There’s so much to explore, so many industries to dive into. I just can’t imagine stopping.”
Reflection in Progress
“My son recently asked me, ‘Why can’t you just enjoy life?’ It’s a question I’m sitting with. Maybe it’s time to slow down, but for now, the drive to conquer still burns bright.”
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Juliana Schroeder, Associate Professor at UC Berkeley Haas School of Business, unpacks the evolving dynamics of communication in the human-machine era.
Juliana dives into the intersection of human and machine interaction, highlighting how technological advancements like generative AI are reshaping how we connect, collaborate, and convey ideas. From leveraging paralinguistic cues to mastering the art of switching between communication modalities, Juliana emphasizes the timeless value of empathy, adaptability, and emotional intelligence in navigating a world increasingly mediated by technology.Key Highlights of Our Interview:
The Mind Behind the Machine
“AI isn’t just changing technology; it’s reshaping how we think, act, and perceive power. When virtual assistants act human-like, they give users a psychological boost that can even alter decision-making.”
Confirmation Bias Central
“When users consult ChatGPT, it often mirrors their ideas, reinforcing their thoughts. It’s a colleague that nods a lot but rarely challenges, creating a unique kind of echo chamber.”
Medium Matters
“From text to video to voice, the platform you choose shapes how your message lands. Want to make a strong first impression? Skip the text and go for face-to-face—or at least a well-delivered elevator pitch.”
Humanize the Experience
“Paralinguistic cues—like tone of voice and facial expressions—are what make conversations truly human. To connect, think beyond words and embrace the richness of full-spectrum communication.”
High Stakes, High Scrutiny
“In critical domains like hiring, people demand transparency. The idea of an algorithm handling everything creates unease, sparking backlash when decisions feel like they emerge from a ‘black box.’”
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Mary Shea, General Manager for North America at HireQuotient and former co-CEO of Mediafly, takes us on a tech-fueled journey through the wild world of AI-driven hiring.
From cracking the code on hidden talent pools to dodging ghosting recruiters, Mary’s got tips for everyone—job seekers, recruiters, and those just trying to figure out if their LinkedIn profile is detailed enough. She even schools us on networking, blending classic human touch with digital-era wizardry. If you’ve ever wondered how to outsmart the bots while keeping your humanity intact, this episode is your playbook—with a side of humor and heart.
Key Highlights of Our Interview:
AI as a Recruiter’s Right Hand
“Offloading 75% of the recruiting workload, generative AI and automation work overtime, tackling bias and sourcing talent far beyond the usual platforms.”
Beyond LinkedIn
“Why limit your search to one platform? With integrations across tools like Crunchbase and Apollo, HireQuotient casts a wide net, uncovering passive and active candidates who often fly under the radar.”
Championing Diversity
“When male-dominated results dominated a recruiter’s search, HireQuotient adapted with a few new prompts, demonstrating how AI can open doors for underrepresented talent.”
White Glove Experience, AI-Style
“Automation doesn’t mean impersonal. By automating outreach and early-stage screening, recruiters had more time to build personal connections and keep candidates engaged.”
Omnichannel Humanity
“Use every channel, but never forget the power of face-to-face. It’s not just networking; it’s feeding your humanity.”
The Human Advantage
“AI might read resumes, but humans hire. Keep networking, stay visible, and remember that meaningful relationships can outlast any algorithm.”
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Greg Morley isn’t your average HR guy. He’s the former DEI and HR head at Moët Hennessy, Disney, and Hasbro—and the brains behind Bond, the book on belonging your workplace desperately needs.
In Part 2 of this two-part series, Greg breaks down the complexities of implementing DEI in global organizations. He shares how rewiring systems—not just setting quotas—creates real inclusion. From tackling unconscious bias to aligning leadership with grassroots energy, Greg highlights the power of authentic cultural shifts. He also contrasts Eastern and Western DEI strategies, showing how understanding local values can foster belonging.Key Highlights of Our Interview:
The Crisis of Workplace Loneliness
“Workplace loneliness isn’t just a personal issue—it’s a challenge organizations must tackle to foster belonging and inclusion.”
The Employee-Employer Power Flip
“The workplace dynamic has shifted—it’s now a buyer’s market for employees who demand recognition, safety, and belonging.”
Redefining Diversity
“Diversity isn’t just what you see—it’s also life experiences, generational perspectives, languages, and abilities, visible or hidden. Most of our diversity at work is invisible. Who someone marries, whether they have kids, or cognitive differences often go unnoticed—but they matter.”
Start With Yourself
“Change begins within. Reflecting on personal experiences of inclusion or exclusion can help leaders empathize and create a more welcoming environment for others.”
East Meets West
“In the East, inclusion feels more organic, driven by community and connection. In the West, it’s often about achieving measurable outcomes and hitting diversity targets.”
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Greg Morley isn’t your average HR guy. He’s the former DEI and HR head at Moët Hennessy, Disney, and Hasbro—and the brains behind Bond, the book on belonging your workplace desperately needs.
In Part 1 of this two-part series, Greg spills how to ditch boring corporate jargon and actually create cultures where people feel seen, heard, and ready to crush it. From rewiring outdated systems to tackling bias head-on, Greg brings humor, grit, and a whole lot of wisdom. Oh, and he’ll show you why making your team feel like they belong isn’t just “nice”—it’s how you win.Key Highlights of Our Interview:
The Inspiration Behind the Book
“The idea for my first book, Bond, came from a friend’s suggestion that I had an obligation to share my experiences. That idea sparked a journey to explore what it takes for any organization to create a true sense of belonging.”
Cutting Through the Noise
“In a world polarized by amplified voices on the extremes—whether labeled woke or anti-woke—my focus is on the middle ground. Most people want to feel safe, heard, and valued at work, free from political distractions.”
A Sandwich Approach to DEI
“Balancing a top-down strategy with grassroots alignment ensures each Maison retains its uniqueness while embracing broader organizational values to drive meaningful DEI outcomes.”
Facing the First Challenge: Self-Awareness
“The journey began with unconscious bias training for all employees, helping them recognize unintentional biases shaped by upbringing or experience. This laid the groundwork for open, honest conversations about diversity and inclusion.”
Leadership Advocacy is Key
“There’s nothing more powerful than a CEO advocating for DEI consistently. A strong top-down message, combined with grassroots energy, creates the momentum needed for real change.”
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In the second episode of this two-part series, Mary Shea, General Manager of Hire Quotient and former co-CEO of Mediafly, delves into the co-CEOship model—a rising approach in today’s complex business landscape.
With growing challenges for single leaders, she explains how trust, complementary skills, and shared vision are essential for success. Mary candidly discusses the model’s benefits, like shared workload and greater impact, alongside challenges like slower decision-making. She also highlights the importance of open communication, board oversight, and coaching as “umpires” to navigate conflicts. This episode offers timely insights for leaders exploring innovative ways to thrive in a rapidly changing world.Key Highlights of Our Interview:
AI’s Impact on Sales Teams
“AI is paving the way for smaller, more agile sales teams, moving away from the traditional 80/20 rule toward a future where 80% of the team delivers 100% of the revenue.”
The Rise of the Consultant Seller
“AI acts as a coach on the salesperson’s shoulder, helping them become more advisory-oriented, and enabling deeper impact in customer interactions.”
Why Two CEOs?
“In today’s complex world, no single leader can address everything, from geopolitical challenges to the rapid pace of AI innovation. The co-CEO model allows for a divide-and-conquer approach.”
Challenges of Co-Leadership
“Decision-making can be slower, and sometimes we wish we could just do things our way. But alignment is key, and when it works, it’s incredibly impactful.”
Who’s the Umpire?
“Our ‘umpire’ is our investor and board. If we truly can’t resolve a disagreement, we rely on their input as the ultimate decision-maker.”
The Professional Marriage
“Co-CEOship is like a professional marriage—it requires resilience, commitment, and sometimes even a ‘marriage counselor’ in the form of an executive coach to navigate tough patches.”
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In this first episode of a two-part series, Mary Shea, General Manager of Hire Quotient and former co-CEO of Mediafly, shares her remarkable journey from classical musician to sales leader and diversity advocate.
Mary reflects on the pivotal moments that shaped her career, including the risks she’s taken and the transformative lessons learned. As a proud member of the LGBTQ community, she discusses her mission to amplify underrepresented voices and drive equity in sales leadership.Drawing from her time as Principal Analyst at Forrester, Mary provides valuable insights into the digitization of sales and the role of creativity in building high-performing teams. Packed with passion, advocacy, and actionable advice, this episode sets the stage for an inspiring conclusion in Part Two.
Key Highlights of Our Interview:
From Music to Business
“I started as a classical musician, playing with the Mexico City Philharmonic and Guadalajara Symphony. But when the career palette felt too small, I took a leap into business, changing my life forever.”
Sales: The Great Equalizer
“Sales is one of the few fields where hard work and skill can lead to financial independence, regardless of where you start. That independence allows you to make meaningful changes in your life and others’.”
Playing Catch-Up with Purpose
“Coming into the business world with a PhD put me 10 years behind my peers, but it also ignited a fire. I moved quickly, knowing every opportunity was critical to closing that gap.”
Creating the Playbook
“I’m not just about managing to a playbook—I love creating it. The intellectual stimulation of building strategies with teams and seeing them succeed is what drives me.”
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In this second episode of the two-part series, James Hilovsky delves deeper into the mindset and qualities required for success in franchising.
Drawing on his extensive experience, James highlights the flip side of athletic traits—how passion and ego can sometimes derail franchisees, but how the right systems and guidance can bring them back on track. He shares insights into why franchising isn’t just about following a playbook but also about owning your business and betting on yourself.
For corporate professionals and non-athletes, James emphasizes the importance of overcoming fear, finding the right franchise fit, and partnering with a supportive franchisor. Packed with actionable advice, this episode is a must-listen for anyone ready to take the leap into franchising and build something truly their own.
Key Highlights of Our Interview:When Ego Enters the Game
“For highly successful athletes, ego can become a stumbling block. In their circle, they’re often surrounded by ‘yes’ people—but in franchising, the system is the boss.”
Coachable or Combative?
“Not every athlete thrives in a franchise model. If they’re resistant to coaching or feel they don’t need the franchise system, they might be better suited for entrepreneurship.”
From Control to Chaos
“Athletes transition from highly controlled environments to the unpredictable world of business. Education and mindset shifts are crucial to navigate these new challenges.”
The Athlete’s Advantage: Resilience
“Athletes are no strangers to failure. In baseball, hitting .300 is a win—despite failing seven out of ten times. That resilience becomes a powerful tool in business.”
The Franchisor as a Partner
“Your franchisor should be more than a brand—they’re your business partner. Look for one that offers strong support and aligns with your vision for success.”
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In this first episode of a two-part series, James Hilovsky takes us from the baseball field to the world of franchising, sharing how athletes possess unique qualities that make them exceptional business owners.
Having transitioned from professional sports to a successful career in the restaurant and franchise industries, James highlights the parallels between following a coach’s playbook and executing a franchise system. With a focus on risk-taking, leadership, and embracing coaching, James explains how athletes are naturally equipped to thrive in franchising. He also shares his passion for guiding athletes and professionals through the franchising process, helping them avoid pitfalls and find opportunities that align with their goals.
Whether you’re an athlete or just looking to take the leap into business, this episode offers valuable insights to inspire your journey.
Key Highlights of Our Interview:From Baseball to Business
“My baseball career was short-lived due to injury, but transitioning to the restaurant industry felt natural. It was another kind of team—working together toward a shared goal.”
Systems That Lead to Success
“Franchises, like sports leagues, refine their systems to avoid pitfalls. They hand franchisees a proven playbook to help them stay on course and achieve their goals.”
Athletes and Franchising: A Natural Fit
“Athletes already understand the value of following systems and being part of a team. That mindset translates seamlessly into running a successful franchise.”
From Coach to Franchisor
“In the franchise world, the franchisor acts like a head coach—laying out the strategies, providing guidance, and ensuring the business operates at peak performance.”
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In this episode, Wayland Lum, CEO of Copperbox Leadership Advisory and former leader at Chicago Booth, Korn Ferry, and Nvidia, shares his journey from art supplies to boardrooms.
Blending creativity with business psychology, Wayland redefines what it means to be a modern leader. With a passion for helping leaders reach their full potential, he explains how betting on oneself can lead to transformational change—not just in business, but in life.From navigating the balance of fear and courage to embracing core purpose, Wayland reveals the power of leadership grounded in authenticity and impact. His insights extend far beyond corporate walls, showing how intentional leadership can create a ripple effect that positively shapes the world. If you’ve ever considered stepping out of your comfort zone and betting on your own vision, this episode will leave you inspired—and maybe a little bit braver.
Key Highlights of Our Interview:
Breaking Free from Prestige
“Leaving prestigious organizations for my own leadership practice wasn’t easy. Many stick to the comfort of a stable paycheck and a corporate name—but I felt called to something more.”
Why Modern Leadership Matters
“In a world of constant flux, leadership grounded in systemic and timeless principles offers the resilience and clarity needed to navigate both societal and business challenges.”
The Private Equity Sprint
“Private equity moves fast. Our work helps leaders in portfolio companies close leadership gaps quickly, aligning their capabilities with quarter-by-quarter business demands.”
Inspiration Starts Within
“To inspire others, you must first be inspired. Your energy, your spark, comes from operating with purpose—and trust me, people can tell if it’s there or not.”
The Wisdom of Acceptance
“Modern leadership is about accepting the full spectrum of emotions—joy, fear, grief, and love—and leading with a wisdom that reflects this understanding of human nature.”
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Wayne Turmel, co-author of The Long-Distance Leader, joins the show to unpack the chaos of remote and hybrid leadership. Is hybrid work really a strategy?
Wayne says it’s more like a game of tug-of-war—companies push for office days, employees dig in their heels, and somehow three days in the office feels like a compromise nobody loves. He dives into how proximity bias sneaks into decision-making, why intentionality is the secret sauce for great leadership, and how balancing deep work with collaboration can save everyone’s sanity. Whether it’s giving feedback on time (without needing to see someone’s face) or managing your team across time zones, Wayne serves up leadership advice with wit, practicality, and just the right amount of Zoom fatigue relatability.Key Highlights of Our Interview:
Lessons from History’s Leaders
“Genghis Khan ruled half the world without a Webex meeting. Julius Caesar? Brilliant in the field, but the office politics got him. Leading from afar isn’t new—it’s just evolved.”
The Proximity Bias Trap
“In hybrid setups, those in the office often get more attention and opportunities—intentionally or not. Awareness is key to ensure fairness across the team.”
Bridging the Trust Gap
“Leadership tasks haven’t changed, but relationships, trust, and proactive communication now require a conscious effort to avoid gaps and micromanagement.”
The Synchronous-Asynchronous Dance
“Effective hybrid work balances synchronous collaboration with asynchronous deep work. It’s not about clocking in at the same time but about delivering results with flexibility.”
Intentionality Over Chaos
“Hybrid solutions require intentionality. Schedule in-office days for meetings and collaboration. Leave remote days for focused work. Let people own their time to produce quality results.”
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Ever felt like confidence is just another buzzword? Lucy Gernon from Ireland is here to flip the script.
In this episode, Lucy breaks down the true essence of confidence—not borrowed quotes or empty bravado, but certainty in yourself, your ideas, and the value you bring. With candid insights and her own journey from self-doubt to self-assurance, she offers a fresh perspective on why confidence isn’t just a trait—it’s a gift you owe to yourself and your audience.
Key Highlights of Our Interview:
The Fire Within
“I knew I was capable of more, but my inner critic kept me playing small. It wasn’t until a personal tragedy shook me to my core that I decided to stop living for others and start chasing my dreams.”
Building While Working
“I started small, coaching evenings and weekends to test the waters. It wasn’t glamorous, but it proved there was a demand. For over a year, I balanced corporate life with side hustle life, saving money, gaining testimonials, and upskilling wherever I could.”
Lessons from the Mirror
“Before starting my business, I leaned on big names and borrowed quotes. But a coach’s nudge reminded me: I had my own frameworks, built on life experience. That realization turned the mirror back on me—and boosted my belief in what I bring to the table.”
Confidence as a Gift
“Confidence isn’t about perfection or credentials. It’s about understanding what you’ve built, what you’ve learned, and using that to enrich others’ journeys. That’s the real win.”
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Meet Irina Filippova, the fearless trailblazer who swapped a career in diplomacy for a front-row seat in the energy and transportation revolutions.
Born in Moscow to a nuclear scientist, Irina took a hard left from splitting atoms to bridging cultures, then pivoted again—this time into reshaping the energy landscape at BP.She’s the kind of leader who doesn’t just talk about change; she makes it happen, whether she’s revamping gas stations into sustainability hubs or electrifying entire fleets. With a dash of diplomacy, a ton of curiosity, and a knack for jumping into the unknown, Irina proves that courage and a good sense of humor are key to leading through global transformations.
Key Highlights of Our Interview:
Moscow Roots and Global Aspirations“I grew up surrounded by science—my father was a nuclear scientist—but my passion was languages and cultures. Choosing diplomacy as a career was a bold step, especially for a woman in Moscow, but it opened doors to a world of possibilities.”
A Curiosity-Led Career Path
“My journey has been anything but linear. At 35, I realized I wasn’t drawn to the idea of a traditional career path. Instead, I wanted to explore different facets of energy, leading me from corporate giants to startups—and each step fueled my curiosity further.”
Turning the Lens Inward
“I initially focused on the need for external leaders to change, but studying psychology at the Carl Jung Institute revealed a profound truth: the change had to start within me. Only by addressing my own internal growth could I effectively guide others.”
Solving the Fleet Transition Equation
“Fleet owners face a daunting challenge: embracing electrification without losing focus on their core business. Our mission is to handle everything from sourcing energy to ensuring reliability, allowing them to electrify without added burdens.”
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Singapore’s youngest female parliamentarian, Tin Pei Ling, reflects on her transformative journey from psychology student to public servant. Faced with early challenges like age bias, online criticism, and the weight of public expectations, she shares how resilience and authenticity became her guiding principles. Tin highlights the power of grassroots connections and meaningful actions to overcome stereotypes and build trust with her constituents. Her story is a testament to navigating adversity with purpose and determination.
Key Highlights of Our Interview:
A Life-Altering Election“My first general election was intense—personally and professionally. As the youngest candidate and a woman, I faced doubts and criticisms. Every day, I had to focus on helping constituents despite the noise. It was a challenging baptism of fire but one that shaped my resilience and growth.”
The Unique Burdens of Social Media
“Social media amplifies everything. Comments—relevant or not—come in waves, and the pressure can be immense. Learning to filter the noise and focus on sincere feedback was crucial. Ultimately, actions spoke louder than words. Over time, trust and authenticity won out.”
Resilience Through Adversity
“Facing biases about age and gender was tough, but time became my ally. By consistently engaging with my constituents and showing my sincerity, I was able to forge bonds that matter deeply to me. Challenges don’t just test us—they teach us to thrive.”
The Power of Perspective
“Looking back, I see growth. The moments of doubt and struggle turned into valuable lessons. Now, I approach criticism with a clearer head and use those experiences to inspire others. Resilience isn’t just about enduring—it’s about learning and evolving.”
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In this episode, we meet Jean Zhou, a filmmaker from China whose life is a testament to the power of pursuing a dream.
From her humble beginnings as a small-town girl to earning an MBA from Chicago Booth, Jean’s journey spans multiple industries—from sociology and accounting to venture capital and, ultimately, the entertainment world. Now an accomplished writer and producer of TV shows and movies, Jean shares how a simple love for TV series as a child ignited her passion for storytelling, leading her to craft narratives that captivate audiences.Join us as we explore the story behind the storyteller.
Key Highlights of Our Interview:
Creating Stories: Founding Wind Entertainment
“In 2019, I founded Wind Entertainment. Initially, we incubated writers and even won several Best Novel Awards. By 2020, we ventured into drama series, writing our first script, The Starry Love. It aired on four TV stations in China and was distributed to over 30 countries.”
Sociology: A Bridge Between Business and Humanity
“Sociology opened my worldview and helped me understand people better. Ultimately, the business world is about relationships—between people and people. Sociology gave me insights into the social mind and thoughts, which help decode the essence of business.”
The Seeds of a Producer’s Journey
“As a child, I had to go to bed at 9 p.m., even though TV programming continued until 10. That early frustration planted the idea in my mind—one day, I’d take control of storytelling. Fast forward to 2018, when I watched the TV series Ashes of Love and realized it was the most incredible thing to create a project like that. I decided it was something I had to try, at least once in my life.”
The Limitations of AI in Screenwriting
“While AI brings efficiency, its impact on screenwriting remains minimal. Scripts are tailored works of art, built to surpass expectations. AI, by contrast, is a summary of past material, often resembling a Wikipedia outline. Such drafts lack the depth and creativity necessary for a fully developed script that would appeal to buyers.”
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Part Three.
Welcome to a special three-part series with Colin Savage. we’ll dive into Colin’s fascinating journey as a self-proclaimed change addict turned change guru. Colin’s career spans continents, cultures, and industries—seven countries lived in, seven more seconded to, and projects in over 70 nations. From organizational transformation to personal reinvention, he’s mastered the art of embracing change and applying those lessons to life.
Here, we’ll explore the learning required for transformation—why Colin believes lifelong learning is outdated and skill stacking is the future. And finally, we’ll tackle AI, human intelligence, and why every one of us needs a personal AI strategy.
Buckle up—this one’s a ride!
Key Highlights of Our Interview:Skill Stacking: Building the Professional Toolkit
“Skill stacking, by contrast, is about curating abilities that complement one another professionally. It’s not about learning everything, but about combining practical skills—like emotional intelligence and technical expertise—to tackle complex challenges with a well-rounded approach.”
AI as a Symphony, Not a Solo
“The real power of AI lies in its harmony with other tools and disciplines. No single tool can address every need, but by leveraging the strengths of multiple technologies in concert, professionals can tackle challenges faster, smarter, and more effectively.”
Cheating AI? The Consequences Are Real
“From students to professionals, relying on AI without human effort leads to steep penalties. A student might fail, a professional might face fraud charges. The higher the stakes, the more critical it is to leverage—not outsource—human intelligence.”
From Problem-Solving to Value Creation
“AI isn’t just a tool for fixing problems—it’s a way to grow and extend what’s already working. By pairing the strengths of people and machines, businesses can unlock untapped potential and deliver results that weren’t possible before.
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Part Two.
Welcome to a special three-part series with Colin Savage. we’ll dive into Colin’s fascinating journey as a self-proclaimed change addict turned change guru. Colin’s career spans continents, cultures, and industries—seven countries lived in, seven more seconded to, and projects in over 70 nations. From organizational transformation to personal reinvention, he’s mastered the art of embracing change and applying those lessons to life.
Here, we’ll explore the learning required for transformation—why Colin believes lifelong learning is outdated and skill stacking is the future. And finally, we’ll tackle AI, human intelligence, and why every one of us needs a personal AI strategy.
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Key Highlight of Our Interview:The Kung Fu Panda Approach to Change
“Wise, measured, and reflective—the best change leaders channel their inner ‘Kung Fu Panda turtle.’ Fewer words, deeper thought, and a collective approach to charting the path forward. Because real insight comes when you listen more than you speak.”
Why Collective Decisions Matter
“Making life-altering changes isn’t a solo act. Consulting with those affected—be it family, colleagues, or friends—adds invaluable perspectives. Ignoring this step risks blind spots and unanticipated challenges that could have been addressed earlier.”
Lifelong Learning: The Good, the Bad, and the Outdated
“While lifelong learning emphasizes constant self-improvement, it often lacks focus. Simply chasing degrees, certifications, or skills without purpose can lead to a disjointed portfolio of knowledge. The real magic happens when learning is intentional and builds toward expertise.”
Skill Stacking as a Career Superpower
“Focused learning that combines seemingly unrelated skills can redefine your career trajectory. It’s not just about learning for the sake of it—it’s about intentionally connecting knowledge areas to create a broader, more adaptable toolkit for the future.”
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Part One.
Welcome to a special three-part series with Colin Savage. we’ll dive into Colin’s fascinating journey as a self-proclaimed change addict turned change guru. Colin’s career spans continents, cultures, and industries—seven countries lived in, seven more seconded to, and projects in over 70 nations. From organizational transformation to personal reinvention, he’s mastered the art of embracing change and applying those lessons to life.
Here, we’ll explore the learning required for transformation—why Colin believes lifelong learning is outdated and skill stacking is the future. And finally, we’ll tackle AI, human intelligence, and why every one of us needs a personal AI strategy.
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Key Highlights of Our Interview:Chasing Novelty vs. Finding Purpose
“It’s easy to leap into new opportunities just because they look exciting. But what’s the endgame? Without a deeper reason or plan, chasing novelty can leave you with unfinished experiences and a string of ‘almost-there’ moments. Purpose turns adventures into meaningful chapters.”
Addicted to Change: Thrill or Trap?
“Addiction to novelty isn’t inherently bad—it pushes boundaries and opens up opportunities. But unbridled chasing without reflection or completion risks shallow experiences. The key? Balancing the thrill of change with the discipline to extract value from every leap.”
Change as a Tool, Not a Fix
“Change for the sake of novelty often leads to dissatisfaction. Instead, approach change as a tool for growth, not a quick fix. Thoughtfully evaluate your motives, assess your readiness, and embrace change as a means to align with your purpose—not as an escape from discomfort.”
Japan: A Surprising Example of Measured Change
“Even in traditionally conservative cultures, like Japan’s life insurance industry, meaningful change can thrive. Success here came not from disruption but from careful planning, patience, and conversations that built consensus. Change, when handled thoughtfully, can flourish even in the most traditional environments.”
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Part Two.
Ever left a toxic boss or workplace, hoping for a fresh start, only to land in the same chaos at your new job? It’s a frustratingly common cycle.
The truth is, office politics are everywhere. From power plays and subtle maneuvers to that colleague who always seems to win, navigating workplace dynamics can be exhausting.
In this two-part series, leadership expert Jennifer Selby Long joins me to unpack why office politics happen, how some people thrive in politically charged environments, and why others struggle. We’ll explore toxic cultures, power dynamics, and the hidden forces shaping your work life—and how to navigate them without losing yourself along the way.
Feeling stuck or burned out? These episodes are packed with relatable stories and actionable insights to help you take your next step forward.
Key Highlights of Our Interview:Talent vs. Tactics: Why Performance Alone Doesn’t Guarantee Success
“In corporate environments, it’s often not the most skilled or hardworking employees who thrive—it’s those adept at navigating office politics. Top performers may drive results, but their brilliance can threaten insecure leaders, creating a system where political tact outshines true talent.”
The Right Culture for the Right Person
“Some thrive in competitive political environments; others find them draining. The key is identifying whether your personal interests align with the culture around you. The fit matters more than fighting a system that may not suit you.”
No Permanent Friends, No Permanent Enemies—Just Interests
“Drawing from the wisdom of Martin Luther King’s attorney, Clarence Jones: the game of politics is about aligning interests, not forging everlasting alliances. Understanding this can shift how you approach your workplace dynamics.”
Burnout and Disengagement: The Fallout of Neglecting Talent
“When talent is neither respected nor recognized, it creates a workplace rife with disengagement and burnout. Organizations lose not just individuals but the potential for meaningful progress, leaving behind a culture where playing the game matters more than delivering value.”
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Part One.
Ever left a toxic boss or workplace, hoping for a fresh start, only to land in the same chaos at your new job? It’s a frustratingly common cycle.
The truth is, office politics are everywhere. From power plays and subtle maneuvers to that colleague who always seems to win, navigating workplace dynamics can be exhausting.
In this two-part series, leadership expert Jennifer Selby Long joins me to unpack why office politics happen, how some people thrive in politically charged environments, and why others struggle. We’ll explore toxic cultures, power dynamics, and the hidden forces shaping your work life—and how to navigate them without losing yourself along the way.
Feeling stuck or burned out? These episodes are packed with relatable stories and actionable insights to help you take your next step forward.
Key Highlights of Our Interview:Finding Your Ally Among the Majority
“In political environments, success hinges on securing a powerful ally. Aligning your interests with theirs and elevating them as a leader in your cause is essential if you plan to stay and thrive in such an environment.”
When Conversations Clash, Progress Pauses
“Business meetings often default to task-focused debates where differing perspectives turn into verbal standoffs. Rarely do teams pause to acknowledge the conflict and approach it constructively, missing opportunities to uncover deeper understanding.”
No Permanent Friends, No Permanent Enemies—Just Interests
“Drawing from the wisdom of Martin Luther King’s attorney, Clarence Jones: the game of politics is about aligning interests, not forging everlasting alliances. Understanding this can shift how you approach your workplace dynamics.”
Assumptions: The Silent Saboteur
“Most conflicts arise not from genuine disagreement but from unchecked assumptions about others’ motives or goals. Pausing to clarify and validate these assumptions can eliminate a significant portion of perceived conflict.”
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Part Two.
I’m joined by Nellie Wartoft, someone I like to call the chief change officer behind change leaders. Originally from Europe, she’s spent years in Asia—especially Singapore—working across cultures. Now based in the U.S., Nellie is the founder and CEO of Tiger Hall, a tech-driven platform helping organizations navigate change more effectively.
This is part two of a two-part series.
In these episodes, we’ll dive into navigating cultural differences across three regions, why most change initiatives fail, and how to set up for success. If you’ve ever struggled with change—whether in your career, company, or life—this series is for you.Key Highlights of Our Interview:
Hating SharePoint and Finding a Better Way
“The inefficiency of tools like SharePoint highlighted a fundamental gap: employees struggling to align with HQ’s vision. Miscommunication bred resistance and fatigue, even when both sides had good intentions. The question arose—why can’t change communication be as engaging as social media or Spotify?”
The Universal Human Side of Change
“No matter where you are in the world, the human psyche reacts similarly to change—fear, chaos, uncertainty, and emotion are universal experiences. Change fatigue and resistance aren’t cultural anomalies; they’re deeply human responses shared across geographies.”
The Ego Factor: A Leadership Killer
“High-ego, high-fear leaders stifle transformation. They resist feedback, take criticism personally, and foster a top-down, do-as-I-say culture. Modern transformation demands collaborative leadership that embraces input, fosters trust, and thrives on dialogue—not outdated command-and-control styles.”
“Short-Term Results vs. Long-Term Vision”
“U.S. organizations prioritize quarterly results and trend-driven decisions, like the AI boom. Meanwhile, Asian companies often take a more measured, long-term approach, rooted in heritage and identity. Both approaches have their strengths but lead to vastly different paces of execution.”
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Part One.
I’m joined by Nellie Wartoft, someone I like to call the chief change officer behind change leaders. Originally from Europe, she’s spent years in Asia—especially Singapore—working across cultures. Now based in the U.S., Nellie is the founder and CEO of Tiger Hall, a tech-driven platform helping organizations navigate change more effectively.
This is part one of a two-part series.
In these episodes, we’ll dive into navigating cultural differences across three regions, why most change initiatives fail, and how to set up for success. If you’ve ever struggled with change—whether in your career, company, or life—this series is for you.Key Highlights of Our Interview
More Cows Than People: The Swedish Small-Town Origin Story
“Growing up in a small village in southern Sweden—population: lots of cows, not many humans—instilled an early drive to explore bigger horizons. For professional and cultural reasons, leaving was a must.”
The McDonald’s Effect: Discovering Professional Passions
“The guest credits their time flipping burgers at McDonald’s as a pivotal moment in shaping their career. It was there they discovered their love for three key elements: a high-paced environment, the thrill of commercial success, and the art of leadership. These ‘professional addictions’ would become the foundation of every role they pursued.”
Resilience and Identity: Anchoring Yourself Beyond Titles
“Basing your identity on external factors like job titles or status is a risky game—what happens if they’re taken away? Instead, ground your sense of self in unshakable traits: hard work, learning, good intentions, or resilience. These are constants, no matter what life throws your way.”
Life of Adventure vs. Life of Leisure
“Challenging societal norms, the guest recounts a thought-provoking quote: ‘A life of leisure is hell, and a life of adventure and purpose is heaven.’ From childhood, we’re often told to seek rest and relaxation, but the guest argues that purpose and adventure are what truly give life meaning.”
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Part Two.
In this 2-part series, we sat down with Robert MacPhee. From parking cars to co-piloting lives, Robert has gone full throttle with his best-selling book Living a Values-Based Life
A former right-hand man to Chicken Soup for the Soul’s Jack Canfield, Robert now helps people figure out their life’s GPS—or rather, their VBS (Values-Based System).Why are we so bad at knowing what we actually value? How can aligning your actions with your core values make work feel less like work? And why does he have such strong opinions about clarity?
Robert dishes out wisdom with a side of wit, helping us tackle life’s big questions with plenty of “aha” moments and a few laughs along the way.
Key Highlights of Our Interviews:
Why It’s So Hard to Define Our Own Values
“Most people’s initial list of values often reflects what they think others want to hear. We’re so conditioned to impress others or meet external expectations that it’s challenging to pause and ask: What truly matters to me? The real magic begins when we strip away external noise and align with our authentic priorities.” How a Values-Based Life Can Improve Work
“Clarity about values doesn’t just make personal life better—it’s transformative for work too. Aligning your actions with priorities like contribution or integrity can help you show up fully, even in challenging moments. That alignment makes work feel purposeful instead of draining.” Do Values Change Over Time? The Short Answer: Yes.
“Values aren’t set in stone—they evolve with life stages and circumstances. For instance, what mattered to you in high school may be worlds apart from what tops your list in your sixties or seventies. Life experiences, like becoming a parent or caring for aging loved ones, naturally shift our focus, making values an ongoing conversation, not a one-time declaration.” Keeping Values Visible
“The importance of keeping your values front and center can’t be overstated. Whether on your phone, bathroom mirror, or bedside table, revisiting your values regularly keeps them aligned with your current life stage. A daily reminder to reflect, re-anchor, and adjust ensures your values stay relevant.”
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Part One.
In this 2-part series, we sat down with Robert MacPhee. From parking cars to co-piloting lives, Robert has gone full throttle with his best-selling book Living a Values-Based Life
A former right-hand man to Chicken Soup for the Soul’s Jack Canfield, Robert now helps people figure out their life’s GPS—or rather, their VBS (Values-Based System).Why are we so bad at knowing what we actually value? How can aligning your actions with your core values make work feel less like work? And why does he have such strong opinions about clarity?
Robert dishes out wisdom with a side of wit, helping us tackle life’s big questions with plenty of “aha” moments and a few laughs along the way.
Key Highlights of Our Interviews:
A Masterclass with Jack Canfield
“I was fortunate to work closely with Jack Canfield, the co-creator of Chicken Soup for the Soul. Over nearly a decade, I learned invaluable lessons about personal development and training, which inspired me to branch out and develop my own concept—Excellent Decisions.”
Living a Values-Based Life
“My current focus, and the heart of my book, Living a Values-Based Life, is helping people clarify their most important values. Once they’re clear on those, they can create a life—and in many cases, a business—that truly aligns with what matters most to them.”
What Are Values, Really?
“At its core, values are what’s most important to us. They define how we want to show up in the world and guide the ways we choose to be. When we are clear about our values, they become a compass, fundamentally shifting how we navigate life and work."
Why Are Values So Hard to Define?
“Most people struggle to articulate their values simply because no one teaches them how. Schools don’t prioritize it, and while parents might model certain values, they often don’t have the tools to guide their children through truly understanding and clarifying their highest values. It’s not intuitive, and it’s certainly not a one-hour workshop—it’s a journey.”
Values Are More Than Ideals; They’re Tools
“Without clearly defined values, navigating life is like walking blindfolded. You may move forward, but without a compass, you risk heading in the wrong direction. Society constantly pushes external markers like money, cars, or houses as measures of success. But aligning goals with deeply personal values, like strengthening family relationships or contributing to a cause, brings fulfillment and focus.”
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Ral West is the kind of person you meet and immediately think, “Wow, she’s lived a life.” Over 40 years as an entrepreneur, her story is full of twists and turns.
In her mid-twenties, she took a leap and started her first business. That was just the beginning. For 25 years, she and her husband ran a charter air service between Alaska and Hawaii, flying wide-body jets. Eventually, they sold it to Alaska Airlines—a huge milestone, but not the end of her journey.
She’s owned small cruise ships, invested in real estate, and kept building.
And now? She’s helping other entrepreneurs figure out the same thing she did: how to run a business and have a life. Her story is inspiring, real, and packed with lessons for anyone chasing big dreams.
Key Highlights of Our Interview:Challenging Generational Norms
“Early in my career, working for my father, I hit the glass ceiling. He came from a different generation, and his views were, let’s say, a bit old-fashioned. But I decided, ‘Thanks, Dad—I’ll take it from here.’ And I broke away to chart my own path.”
Juggling Act: The Exhausting Middle Years
“Between 35 and 55, I was stretched thin—running a business, raising young kids, volunteering. Sleep felt like a luxury. My health suffered, my marriage struggled, and I couldn’t do it all.”
The Breakthrough: Building Systems and Letting Go
“I learned the hard way that trying to do everything myself wasn’t sustainable. I created systems, implemented processes, and built a team I could trust. Using metrics and data-driven management, I structured my business so it could run smoothly—whether I was there or not.” The Slow Burn of Transformation
“Building systems, processes, and a reliable team didn’t happen overnight. It was years in the making. I started small—reading books like The E-Myth by Michael Gerber, going back to college, and studying with mentors like Robert Kiyosaki. Each step added a piece to the puzzle.”
Bite-Sized Delegation: Starting Small
“You don’t need massive financial success to start delegating. It starts with breaking down your daily tasks into bite-sized pieces and identifying what you can transfer to someone else.”
Turning Intuition Into Systems
“One of my toughest challenges was documenting decision-making processes—like when to increase advertising spend. It took weeks of introspection and trial and error before I realized I was relying on sales trends over a three-day period. Once I had clarity, I turned it into a system my team could follow, even when I wasn’t there.”
Creating Culture: Embodying Values and Principles
“It wasn’t just about systems and metrics; it was about building a team that shared my values. From customer service to feedback collection, we worked hard to create a culture that prioritized our principles.”
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Part Two.
Today’s guest is Erin Diehl, founder and CEO of Improve It, a company that uses improv to help teams grow and thrive. Like me, she’s also a top podcast host!
From a young age, Erin dreamed of becoming a talk show host. Why did she choose that path? And how did her journey lead her to combine improv and business?
I told Erin, “You’re in the business of joy.”
But beyond joy, we also talked about failure. Erin calls herself a “failfluencer”—a blend of failure and influence. This two-part series dives into her unique approach to joy, failure, growth, and learning.
Key Highlights of Our Interview:
WTF: Worst Terrifying Failure
“2020 was my crash course in failure. The pandemic forced our in-person business to pivot entirely online overnight. At the same time, I juggled new motherhood, supporting a recovering parent, and trying to keep my business afloat. It was my WTF moment: my Worst Terrifying Failure.”
This breakdown captures the essence of the MOVE ON methodology:
1. Marinate: Sit With It, Not In It
Failure isn’t something you can brush off overnight. Take the time to sit with your worst terrifying failure—your WTF story. Reflect deeply. Walk, journal, or simply allow yourself to process. It’s about feeling without rushing to fix.
2. Own It: Forgive and Face the Thought Worms
“Own your part in the failure, but more importantly, forgive yourself. We repeat 80% of our negative thoughts daily, so break that cycle. Recognize those thought worms for what they are and stop letting them dictate your story.”
3. Verify the Lessons: What Will You Take With You?
“Failure comes bearing lessons—two or three takeaways that you can carry forward. Identify what you’ve learned and how you’ll avoid the same pitfalls in the future. This step transforms failure into wisdom.”
4. Evaluate: What’s the Plan?
5. Observe the Growth: Prepare for the Next Chapter
6. Embrace Failure as Part of Change
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Part One.
Today’s guest is Erin Diehl, founder and CEO of Improve It, a company that uses improv to help teams grow and thrive. Like me, she’s also a top podcast host!
From a young age, Erin dreamed of becoming a talk show host. Why did she choose that path? And how did her journey lead her to combine improv and business?
I told Erin, “You’re in the business of joy.”
But beyond joy, we also talked about failure. Erin calls herself a “failfluencer”—a blend of failure and influence. This two-part series dives into her unique approach to joy, failure, growth, and learning.
Key Highlights of Our Interview:
Improv Meets the Corporate World
“I didn’t plan to merge improv and business. But during my nine-to-five at a recruiting firm, my nights were dedicated to stages at Second City and ImprovOlympic. Suddenly, I saw how listening, empathy, and quick thinking from improv transformed my work life. The dots connected.”
United We Innovate
“Pitching an improv workshop to United Airlines was a gamble, but it paid off—literally. What started as a passion experiment became a calling when United became my first paying client. Improv wasn’t just for the stage anymore.”
The Teacher’s High
“That feeling of guiding someone toward growth is intoxicating. It’s a high I kept chasing, and the more I taught, the more I wanted to do it. Seeing others find joy became my own source of joy.”
From ROI to ROO: The Objective Shift
“We don’t measure ROI; we measure ROO—Return on Objective. Every engagement starts with a consult call to pinpoint your specific challenges and objectives, ensuring everything aligns with the participants’ needs.”
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Host: Vince Chan | Guest: Erin Diehl
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Part Two.
I sit down with Nina Sossamon-Pogue, a former professional gymnast who started her journey at just four years old and went on to join the U.S. Gymnastics Team.
In her own words, gymnastics is a perfect example of resilience—you literally fall down and get back up, all day, every day, as you learn new skills. That mindset became part of Nina’s DNA, and it carried her through some incredible twists and turns.
From the heartbreak of not making the Olympic team to leaving the sport for good after an injury, she faced one identity crisis after another. But she didn’t stop there. Nina built a successful journalism career that spanned 17 years, only to be let go, despite being a beloved news anchor. And instead of staying down, she jumped into tech—starting from scratch—and reinvented herself yet again.
Yesterday, in part one of our conversation, we looked into Nina’s journey. Her training, her triumphs, and her setbacks. Then, today, in part two, we’ll explore the tools Nina has developed over the years to help others rise above their challenges. Tools like the Reverse Resume and Successful Timeline. We’re not talking about your typical resume or conventional ideas of success—we’re going beyond that.
Key Highlights of Our Interview:
Why the Reverse Resume Matters
“When hiring, I ask, ‘What’s something you’ve overcome?’ That’s where the magic is. Those bottom-line moments define the strength you bring to every table.”
The Power of Perspective: Achievements and Challenges Together”
“Your resume tells one story, but your reverse resume tells the deeper truth: what you’ve overcome. Together, they define not just what you’ve done, but who you are.”
“Success vs. a Successful Lifetime: Spot the Difference”
“A nice car, a big house, a shiny jet—that’s success. But a successful lifetime? That’s the legacy, the relationships, the impact. The timeline reveals the whole messy, marvelous story.”
Life is a Bag of Legos
“Imagine dumping out a Ziploc bag full of Legos. Same colors, same shapes, same pieces. Yet, you’d build something entirely different from me. That’s your life—it’s uniquely yours to assemble.”
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Host: Vince Chan | Guest: Nina Sossamon-Pogue
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Part One.
I sit down with Nina Sossamon-Pogue, a former professional gymnast who started her journey at just four years old and went on to join the U.S. Gymnastics Team.
In her own words, gymnastics is a perfect example of resilience—you literally fall down and get back up, all day, every day, as you learn new skills. That mindset became part of Nina’s DNA, and it carried her through some incredible twists and turns.
From the heartbreak of not making the Olympic team to leaving the sport for good after an injury, she faced one identity crisis after another. But she didn’t stop there. Nina built a successful journalism career that spanned 17 years, only to be let go, despite being a beloved news anchor. And instead of staying down, she jumped into tech—starting from scratch—and reinvented herself yet again.
Today, in part one of our conversation, we’re diving into Nina’s journey. Her training, her triumphs, and her setbacks. Then, tomorrow, in part two, we’ll explore the tools Nina has developed over the years to help others rise above their challenges. Tools like the Reverse Resume and Successful Timeline. We’re not talking about your typical resume or conventional ideas of success—we’re going beyond that.
Key Highlights of Our Interview:
The Personal Toll of Public Life
“While doing three live shows a day, I went through a divorce, an accident, and some of the darkest moments of my life. I wondered if I’d ever feel happy again.”
Finding Your Sweet Spot: Skills, Opportunities, and Trends
“When making a career pivot, ask yourself three key questions: What am I good at? Where’s the money? And what’s the trajectory of the industry I’m entering? Aligning these answers sets the foundation for a successful transition.”
Coffee, Conversations, and Clarity: Gaining Insight From Your Network
“To discover where I could make an impact, I turned to trusted colleagues and asked: If you had to hire me, what would you hire me for? Their answers revealed skills I hadn’t fully recognized and pointed me toward opportunities I hadn’t considered.”
Your Skills, Seen Through Fresh Eyes
“What others find valuable in you might surprise you. It’s a reminder to seek outside perspectives—they could reveal your next big opportunity.”
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Host: Vince Chan | Guest: Nina Sossamon-Pogue
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Part Two.
In 2022, an accident left Erica Sosna, Author of The Career Equation, paralysed, facing months of recovery, and re-learning to walk. Yet, she is grateful, even through pain and uncertainty, to have rediscovered her own resilience and purpose. Over two years, she has fought her way back to walking, rebuilt her business, and found a new mission in helping others.
Key Highlights of Our Interview:
Speaking the Same Career Language: The Foundation of The Career Equation
“The Career Equation is designed to create a common understanding between employers and employees around career development, much like having a shared accounting system. Without it, career conversations risk inconsistency and lack of clarity, but with it, we can truly align aspirations and strategies.”
Building Career Conversations with Four Simple Components
“The Career Equation focuses on four key insights: understanding strengths, uncovering passions, measuring success, and aligning with optimal work environments. These components create a common ground, enabling both employer and employee to understand what’s needed to thrive.”
Insatiable Curiosity: Embracing Unconventional Paths to Healing
"An insatiable thirst for novelty keeps me exploring, whether it’s acupuncture, microcurrent therapy, or spine-specific chiropractic techniques. I’ve discovered that healing requires openness to new possibilities, even when they fall outside the traditional model.”
The Right Environment: The Crucial Factor for Success
“From workspace to team dynamics, the environment is essential to performance. Knowing where a person does their best work and making adjustments as needed creates a space where strengths can flourish.”
Visualizing the Outcome: A Plan Begins with the End in Mind
“I start by envisioning the experiences I want—whether it’s dancing, running, or picking up my child—then map out the steps that would lead me there. By framing it with vivid goals, I find clarity and purpose in the smallest daily actions.”
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Host: Vince Chan | Guest: Erica Sosna
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Part One.
In 2022, an accident left Erica Sosna, Author of The Career Equation, paralysed, facing months of recovery, and re-learning to walk. Yet, she is grateful, even through pain and uncertainty, to have rediscovered her own resilience and purpose. Over two years, she has fought her way back to walking, rebuilt her business, and found a new mission in helping others.
Key Highlights of Our Interview:
Two Jobs, Two Failures: A Gut Check Moment
“After two roles that didn’t work out as planned, I hit a crossroads. I took a step back and asked: am I in the right place? I needed to rethink my priorities, work style, and the kind of organization that would truly support me.”
The School of Hard Knocks: Rejections and Redirections
“Returning to the corporate world after running my own social enterprise was unexpectedly tough. My CV was different, unconventional, and people didn’t trust me to hold down a job. It took resilience to find an organization that valued my unique experience.”
Shifting Gears: When Your Work Becomes Your Solace
“Returning to my consultancy after a year’s absence was grounding. My work has always been my passion, but after such a physically uncontrollable experience, the familiar structure felt like a comfort. It also became a chance to rethink: How could I reach more people, make a bigger impact? And so, the podcast was born.”
A Balancing Act: Rediscovering Purpose in a Three-Day Week
"Managing a business on a three-day week, while also recovering from a spinal cord injury and parenting, meant redefining success. I’ve refocused on what truly matters, aligning my time with my gifts and refining how I reach people. It’s been a balance of impact and sustainability.”
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Host: Vince Chan | Guest: Erica Sosna
Chief Change Officer: Make Change Ambitiously.
Experiential Human Intelligence for Growth Progressives
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Part Two.
We dive into an extraordinary journey of resilience with Athena Brownson. At the peak of her real estate career—feeling invincible and unstoppable—Athena’s life took an unexpected turn. Strange health issues appeared, and she was eventually diagnosed with Lyme disease, a condition that would change everything.
For the past eight years, Athena has lived in chronic pain, relying on plasma transfusions four days each month just to keep going. Her life now revolves around battling this disease, something she never imagined facing. As she says, “If life didn’t give us adversity and challenges…”
This story is too powerful for just one episode.
Yesterday, in Part 1, Athena shared her experience with Lyme disease—a condition that remains poorly understood but has profoundly impacted her health. She talked about how she had caught it, what she had endured, and the fight to survive.
In Part 2, airing today, Athena will reveal how she not only survived but found ways to thrive, rebuild her support system, and grow her career once again.
Key Highlights of Our Interview:
Retraining the Brain
“Pain puts the brain in fight-or-flight mode, and it can get stuck there. So it’s on us to train our minds to tell our bodies we’re okay, to push through and find relief.”
The Power of a Routine
“For me, routines are huge. My toolkit includes morning and evening rituals – breathwork, meditation, journaling, writing affirmations. I remind myself every day: I am healthy. I am healing. My body can get through this.”
The Art of Delegation
“Delegation isn’t just about getting things off your plate; it’s about giving others a chance to shine. My illness showed me I can’t do everything, nor should I. Letting go allows others to thrive, and it’s empowering to see them do what they love.”
Building My Tribe
“Finding the right people was a decade-long journey, but now I have a team around me who would do anything for me. They’re not just coworkers; they’re my support system, my tribe. I know they’re here for me, health and all, and I wouldn’t be where I am without them.”
The Power of Pen and Paper
“Writing by hand does something special. Seeing the words you put down lets them sink in, letting you visualize and internalize them in a unique way.”
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Part One.
We dive into an extraordinary journey of resilience with Athena Brownson. At the peak of her real estate career—feeling invincible and unstoppable—Athena’s life took an unexpected turn. Strange health issues appeared, and she was eventually diagnosed with Lyme disease, a condition that would change everything.
For the past eight years, Athena has lived in chronic pain, relying on plasma transfusions four days each month just to keep going. Her life now revolves around battling this disease, something she never imagined facing. As she says, “If life didn’t give us adversity and challenges…”
This story is too powerful for just one episode.
Today, in Part 1, Athena shares her experience with Lyme disease—a condition that remains poorly understood but has profoundly impacted her health. She’ll talk about how she caught it, what she’s endured, and the fight to survive.
In Part 2, airing tomorrow, Athena will reveal how she not only survived but found ways to thrive, rebuild her support system, and grow her career once again.
Key Highlights of Our Interview:
The Hidden Threat of Lyme Disease
“I had no idea what Lyme disease was before I was diagnosed with it. It’s the fastest growing epidemic in the United States, and it can turn life upside down.”
From Athlete to Survivor
“My life has made a complete 180 from being a professional athlete to just trying to get through each day. It’s a nightmare I wouldn’t wish on anyone.”
When Life Becomes a Series of Challenges
“It’s hard not to get stuck in the mud when you’re dealing with something so challenging and constant… chronic pain, chronic fatigue, enough to make anyone want to stay in bed and not do anything.”
Creating a Toolkit for Every Day
“How do we pivot our mentality? How do we create our toolkit of things to get us through each day, even when we don’t want to? Sometimes it’s as simple as blasting favorite music or making a great cup of coffee.”
Becoming Your Own Biggest Advocate
“With Lyme, I’ve learned that you have to be your own biggest advocate. It’s about mental resilience, surrounding yourself with the right people, and finding those anchors to push forward.”
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Part Three.
Today’s episode has a unique twist: I’m interviewing a storytelling expert to share his own story.
My guest, Chris Hare, is a strategic narrative advisor and coach for companies like Amazon and Microsoft, guiding leaders and executives with his approach, Atomic Storytelling. His method breaks down complex stories into their core, resonant elements.
In this three-part series, we’ll journey through Chris’s experiences in three stages.
On Wednesday, in Part 1, we explored his expertise in helping businesses craft compelling corporate stories and understand the connection between story and narrative.
On Thursday, in Part 2, we looked at storytelling for personal transformation as Chris shared some of the best and worst stories he had heard or felt. He also opened up about his own mental health challenges.
Then, today, in Part 3, he’ll introduce tools we can use to develop our own stories and narratives. And here’s a personal confession—I told him one of his exercises might just make me cry! I’ll also be sharing my own experience with another exercise, highlighting both its challenges and insights.
Key Highlights of Our Interview:
The Power of a Reflective Movie Theater Exercise
“I have people visualize that movie that plays is actually not the blockbuster. It’s actually your life playing and your career…What might you call that movie?”
Beyond the Corporate 360: Finding Stories That Matter
“This is not the 360 that many of us from corporate America are used to…the goal here is to go and talk to three to five people who know you, care about you, and want you to succeed.”
Feedback as a Double-Edged Sword
“People could give feedback that might reinforce the wrong narrative…we just have to be careful and think about them as inputs, not absolute truths.”
The Weight of Opinions and Invisible Biases
“We unknowingly put more weight on some people’s opinions than others…whether it’s because of the friendship, the level of friendship, or the position they have.”
Rewriting Stories with Every Interaction
“I’m never telling the same story twice. I’m rewriting the story as I’m telling you based on your face, your facial expressions, your body language, your tone of voice. There are all those factors that play into it that make it incredibly complex.”
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Part Two.
Today’s episode has a unique twist: I’m interviewing a storytelling expert to share his own story.
My guest, Chris Hare, is a strategic narrative advisor and coach for companies like Amazon and Microsoft, guiding leaders and executives with his approach, Atomic Storytelling. His method breaks down complex stories into their core, resonant elements.
In this three-part series, we’ll journey through Chris’s experiences in three stages.
Yesterday, in Part 1, we explored his expertise in helping businesses craft compelling corporate stories and understand the connection between story and narrative.
Today, in Part 2, we’ll look at storytelling for personal transformation as Chris shares some of the best and worst stories he’s heard and opens up about his own mental health challenges.
Then, in Part 3, he’ll introduce tools we can use to develop our own stories and narratives. And here’s a personal confession—I told him one of his exercises might just make me cry! I’ll also be sharing my own experience with another exercise, highlighting both its challenges and insights.
Key Highlights of Our Interview:
Rewriting Your Inner Cassette Tape
“I find it helpful and more visceral to think about our personal narratives as a cassette tape—a tape that’s playing in our head that we’re constantly writing, rewriting, and adjusting.”
Building One Authentic Narrative Across Multiple Worlds
“A serial CEO I worked with wanted one narrative that connected his private equity, board roles, and yoga community. The result was an authentic narrative rooted in his true self that could be lensed across different audiences.”
Proximity Blinds Us to Our Own Stories
"We’re so close to our own narrative and stories that we don’t see the broader picture… if you’re building with Lego, you might not see that there’s a gigantic pile of Lego behind you."
Changing the Inputs to Shift the Narrative and Change the Outcome
“If you continue to put in the same inputs, things likely won’t change… One of the positive inputs I changed was I got into fly fishing, and that was part of changing those inputs to shift not only the narrative but the outcomes.”
The Power of Raw Storytelling
"Our stories are not always the really clean, really curated story that makes us look good, but that raw story that has the power to shift the future."
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Host: Vince Chan | Guest: Chris Hare
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Part One.
Today’s episode has a unique twist: I’m interviewing a storytelling expert to share his own story.
My guest, Chris Hare, is a strategic narrative advisor and coach for companies like Amazon and Microsoft, guiding leaders and executives with his approach, Atomic Storytelling. His method breaks down complex stories into their core, resonant elements.
In this three-part series, we’ll journey through Chris’s experiences in three stages.
Today, in Part 1, we’ll explore his expertise in helping businesses craft compelling corporate stories and understand the connection between story and narrative.
Tomorrow, in Part 2, we’ll look at storytelling for personal transformation as Chris shares some of the best and worst stories he’s heard and opens up about his own challenges.
Then, in Part 3, he’ll introduce tools we can use to develop our own stories and narratives. And here’s a personal confession—I told him one of his exercises might just make me cry! I’ll also be sharing my own experience with another exercise, highlighting both its challenges and insights.
Key Highlights of Our Interview:
Stories Fuel the Narrative
“In my mind, stories are time-bound: this happened, it started here, it ended there. But the narrative is ongoing—it’s an architecture shaping the direction of an individual or company.”
Storytelling’s Overplayed? Think Again
“For years, I wouldn’t even call myself a storyteller because it was so overplayed. Everyone is using frameworks like the hero’s journey as if they’re paint-by-numbers. But storytelling is far more complex.”
The Narrative Flywheel: Stories That Drive Strategy
“The stories are the fuel that flows into the flywheel. We synthesize them, find patterns, and decide where to play and how to win. Then, with experimentation and learning, we create more stories—and the flywheel keeps spinning."
Human-Centered Design in Action: Logitech’s Transformation
“Bracken Darrell took Logitech’s failing narrative and reframed it with a vision: human-centered design across every part of the company. This vision wasn’t pushed from the top but inspired teams, driving Logitech’s turnaround—from 30-day financial reporting to just two.”
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Host: Vince Chan | Guest: Chris Hare
Chief Change Officer: Make Change Ambitiously.
Experiential Human Intelligence for Growth Progressives
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Part Two. Who couldn’t use a bit more happiness?
In this two-part series, we dive into the journey of Rahshea Cardiff, VP of Partnerships at Happy Companies—a venture dedicated to building happier, healthier workplaces. With over 20 years of experience in people management across big names like Best Buy, Starbucks, and Microsoft, Rahshea is passionate about creating meaningful employee experiences.
But her story goes beyond the corporate world; she’s faced deep personal challenges, including the loss of her mother, a divorce, and raising her first child, all while navigating major career transitions.
In Part One, Rahshea shared the resilience behind her journey and what led her to join Happy Companies.
Today, tune in for Part Two, where Rahshea delves into her role at Happy Companies, her mission to integrate technology with genuine human care, and her vision for transforming the modern workplace. We’ll explore how she’s using her life experiences to shape a fresh approach to employee wellbeing and workplace happiness.
Key Highlights of Our Interview:
Unbecoming to Become: Shedding What Isn’t You
"Maybe it’s not about becoming anything. Maybe it’s about unbecoming everything that isn’t who you really are."
The Power of Staying True to Yourself
“I was told I needed to change who I was… to fit into somebody’s picture of what they thought I should be. Instead, I learned to step into who I am and be proud of it.”
Unlocking a Team’s Full Potential through Behavioral Insights
“With Happy, leaders get a snapshot of every team member—how they’re wired, their strengths, their energy drivers, and what drains them.”
Putting a Personalized Coach at Every Leader’s Fingertips
“Happy’s platform essentially puts a one-on-one coach at the fingertips of every leader and employee, including self-coaching to improve communication and motivation.”
Human Stories and Tech-Driven Scalability: A Perfect Balance
“Technology is terrific for us at Happy; it provides the behavioral insight, but it’s that human coach who can tell the story, make it personal, and take it to the next level of impact.”
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Part One. Who couldn’t use a bit more happiness?
In this two-part series, we dive into the journey of Rahshea Cardiff, VP of Partnerships at Happy Companies—a venture dedicated to building happier, healthier workplaces. With over 20 years of experience in people management across big names like Best Buy, Starbucks, and Microsoft, Rahshea is passionate about creating meaningful employee experiences.
But her story goes beyond the corporate world; she’s faced deep personal challenges, including the loss of her mother, a divorce, and raising her first child, all while navigating major career transitions.
In today’s episode, Rahshea shares the resilience behind her journey and what led her to join Happy Companies. We’ll explore how she’s using her life experiences to shape a fresh approach to employee wellbeing and workplace happiness.
Then, tune in for part two on Tuesday, where Rahshea delves into her role at Happy Companies, her mission to integrate technology with genuine human care, and her vision for transforming the modern workplace.
Key Highlights of Our Interview:
Conditioned Ambition: The Corporate Ladder Wasn’t the Life I Wanted
“As we’re growing up, we go to school, we get good grades, we go to college, we get married, buy a house. Climb the corporate ladder—it’s what we’re taught, what we see. But in 2016, everything shifted—I realized I was chasing something that no longer felt right."
Loss and Legacy: Realizing We’re Not Promised Tomorrow
“Losing my mother and going through a divorce within a year taught me that we all fall into this trap of thinking there’s always tomorrow. I began asking myself, ‘If today were my last day, would I be at peace with how I spent it?’ Too many times, the answer was no. I knew it was time to recalibrate.”
Choosing Purpose Over Position
“I walked away from corporate stability and took a leap into entrepreneurship. And now, working with Happy, I’m able to stay close to my family and focus on meaningful work that aligns with my values.”
The Gift of Presence: Living in the Moment
“When we are able to shift our mindset and perspective to live in the present, it really is such a gift.”
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Part Two.
Thinking about leaving Corporate America? Or maybe you’ve already taken the leap and are still navigating the journey? This episode is tailor-made for you.
Today’s guest, Alison Stewart, made a bold move from a decade-long career in finance and insurance into the fast-paced world of startups. A switch she made in the midst of the pandemic.
Even more inspiring? She landed this opportunity through networking on LinkedIn. While many of us turn to LinkedIn for job searches, skepticism around job postings is common.
This is actually part two of a two-part series.
Yesterday, we’re diving into the personal changes Alison has experienced: her motivations, the steps she took, and her LinkedIn story of connecting with her current co-founder.
Today, we’ll talk about her new venture, Overalls, which is making waves in the employee benefits space. They’re building a network of “life concierges,” including stay-at-home parents, the underemployed, and retirees, and linking them with employers to help reduce the day-to-day stress on employees. Will this model make employees feel more loyal? More willing to return to the office? We don’t know yet, but it’s definitely an idea worth exploring.
Key Highlights of Our Interview:
Building a Village for Every Stage of Life
“Overalls is essentially your village… supporting you through life’s messier, more complex situations, like helping an elderly parent or finding summer camps for kids.”
A Rare Benefit That Earns Employee Appreciation
“This is one of the first times HR is getting thanked by employees for a benefit… they’re amazed at how thankful employees are for the support.”
Confidence in Uncharted Territory
“The biggest challenge was… do I have the skill set to do these things? Am I qualified to make some of these decisions?… In this environment, it’s all core because again, if you’re not doing it, it’s not getting done.”
Keep Your Goals in Sight: Write Them Down
“We can get distracted… By writing it down, being honest with ourselves, talking to others, that’ll help us hold ourselves accountable to what it is that we’re looking for.”
The Power of Focus and Manifesting the Right Move
“I wasn’t reaching out to a million people… I was focused, determined to put the time and energy in. My excitement led me to take a risk, and it worked.”
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Part One.
Thinking about leaving Corporate America? Or maybe you’ve already taken the leap and are still navigating the journey? This episode is tailor-made for you.
Today’s guest, Alison Stewart, made a bold move from a decade-long career in finance and insurance into the fast-paced world of startups. A switch she made in the midst of the pandemic.
Even more inspiring? She landed this opportunity through networking on LinkedIn. While many of us turn to LinkedIn for job searches, skepticism around job postings is common.
This is actually part one of a two-part series.
Today, we’re diving into the personal changes Alison has experienced: her motivations, the steps she took, and her LinkedIn story of connecting with her current co-founder.
Tomorrow, we’ll talk about her new venture, Overalls, which is making waves in the employee benefits space. They’re building a network of “life concierges,” including stay-at-home parents, the underemployed, and retirees, and linking them with employers to help reduce the day-to-day stress on employees. Will this model make employees feel more loyal? More willing to return to the office? We don’t know yet, but it’s definitely an idea worth exploring.
Key Highlights of Our Interview:
"What Am I Doing?” – Hitting Pause on the Corporate Grind
“During the pandemic, time started blending together. I had to stop and ask, what am I doing? Am I happy?” Those months at home made me realize how I’d been running on autopilot, stuck in a cycle of new leadership teams and constant resets. With every change, it felt like we were taking ten steps back just to make one forward."
“The Safety Net of a Strong Company” – Navigating Stability vs. Fulfillment
“You can get caught up in…having a strong company, great group of colleagues…new opportunities coming at you. But it might not be what truly motivates you.”
“Controlling for Risk Factors” – Making Thoughtful Career Moves
“I was trying to control for those risk factors, or at least account for them…what was I comfortable with? How would it impact my family?”
“Overalls Caught My Eye” – The Power of an Unexpected Spark
“I was sitting at work…reading about the launch of Overalls, and I got really excited. People almost stopped me, saying, ‘Allison, nothing gives you as much excitement as this opportunity."
“Taking Skills Beyond Insurance” – Exploring New Industries on LinkedIn
“I was interested in exploring something outside the insurance industry…how does my experience, how do my skills translate, and how do I communicate them effectively?”
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We’re joined by Paul Austin, founder and CEO of Third Wave, who champions the responsible use of psychedelics for personal and leadership development.
While psychedelics remain illegal in many places and continue to be the subject of ongoing legal and medical debate, Paul is educating the world on their potential benefits and the transformative role they could play in enhancing mental clarity, creativity, and growth.
As the host, I offer this forum as a space for diverse voices to share their thoughts and insights on ideas that can help humanity move in a positive direction. My goal is not to pass judgment but to present different perspectives, asking questions that allow listeners to form their own opinions from the conversation.
BBC: What psychedelics legalisation and decriminalisation looks like around the world.
Paul shares how microdosing, when done carefully, has the potential to benefit a wide range of people—not just those with mental health challenges. We discuss the common misunderstandings about psychedelics, key legal and medical concerns, and, most importantly, safety considerations and responsible practices to approach this evolving tool for personal growth.
Listen in to explore how psychedelics, when used thoughtfully, might serve as a powerful catalyst for transformation.
Key Highlights of Our Interview:
The Real Risks of Psychedelics: Safety First
“While psychedelics promise transformation, the biggest risk isn’t just physiological—it’s legal. These substances are still illegal in most places, so getting caught can have serious consequences. Beyond that, psychedelics can create instability if not handled with the right support and a safe environment.”
Mindset Matters: Intention in Psychedelic Use
“The real benefits of psychedelics start with intention. Using them to learn, grow, or heal can unlock deep insights, but if it’s just to escape reality, the impact is far less meaningful. For anyone interested, working with a professional—be it a coach, therapist, or shaman—is essential. Preparation and a safe setting are crucial for a transformative experience.”
The Five Elements for a Safe and Meaningful Psychedelic Journey
“There are five essential elements: assessment, preparation, facilitation, integration, and microdosing. From asking the right questions to committing fully to the experience, each step helps build a safe and transformative path. Start low, go slow, and choose to step into this journey for yourself—not for anyone else.”
Microdosing as a Catalyst, Not a Crutch
“Microdosing isn’t about masking problems; it’s about creating neuroplasticity for real change. With commitment—two to three times a week for 30 days—you can catalyze significant shifts in mood, decision-making, and self-awareness. But this journey, like any transformation, relies on intention and responsibility. Microdosing is a tool, but you hold the reins to lasting growth.”
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So, you want to quit your job?!
You’ve hit a roadblock. Every morning, you’re dragging yourself out of bed, dreading the workday ahead. The office vibe feels off, politics and gossip are draining, deadlines are relentless. You think the only escape is to quit—maybe loudly, maybe quietly.
But our guest, Author of "Red Cape Rescue: Save Your Career Without Leaving Your Job", Darcy Eikenberg says, “No, you don’t have to quit to save your career.”
How?
In today's episode, Darcy and I dive into why staying might be the best move and how you can rebound from a low point. We’re all “Incredibles” with the superpowers to save ourselves!
Key Highlights of Our Interview:
Feeling in Control – How Red Cape Revolution Inspires
“Red Cape Revolution isn’t about superhero costumes; it’s about bringing that sense of confidence, where your shoulders are back, and you’re ready to face the world, into the workplace. With Red Cape Rescue, you can turn those career speed bumps into moments of self-rescue, without waiting on anyone else for change.”
Crafting a Fear Strategy for Modern Life
“We all have that primitive part of our brain—the same one that saved our ancestors from tigers. It kicks in when we see an email from our boss, triggering fear even when there’s no real threat. I call it the ‘lizard brain,’ but we can override it by tapping into our ‘heroic brain’ to control our responses.”
“Our fear responses are overused in today’s world, making us pull back and hide. Instead, I encourage people to forge a fear strategy: decide ahead of time how to respond when fear hits. Ask yourself, ‘What’s in my control here?’ and choose a different thought to keep fear from taking the wheel.”
Can’t See the Label from Inside the Jar? Here’s a Trick
“We’re all stuck in our own jars, so I recommend stepping back by recording yourself venting about a situation. Play it back, pull out the facts, and let go of the stories your brain adds. It’s like listening to a friend’s dilemma—it’s amazing what we hear from the outside.”
Self-Awareness: The Key to Unlocking Clarity
“True clarity comes from self-awareness. If something bothers you, take a deeper look: What personal value feels violated? Self-reflection is vital because the same situation might impact you differently than others, all depending on how you’re wired.”
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Part Two.
How many people do you know who walk into a public restroom and leave it cleaner than they found it? I do—and so does the wife of today’s guest, Monte Wood. Like me, she does it because she wants to make things better for the next person.
Monte, author of Generosity Wins and former CEO of Opus Agency, has worked with industry legends like Mark Benioff, Andy Grove, Steve Jobs, John Chambers and Andy Jassy. He’s learned from them, his mentors, and his mother what generosity truly means and how it leads to success in life and career.
In yesterday's episode, we looked into Monte’s definition of generosity and why he believes it’s the key to a happier, more successful life.
Today, we’ll explore why generosity is tough in today’s world and how to nurture a mindset focused on giving.
Still skeptical about how generosity can lead to success? Tune in and join the conversation.
Key Highlights of Our Interview:
Generosity Beyond Kindness: Lessons from Steve Jobs, John Chambers, and Andy Jassy
“Steve Jobs’ goal to democratize technology was generous, even if his approach wasn’t. Leaders like Chambers and Jassy showed that while generosity doesn’t always come with kindness, the drive to uplift others’ success is, in itself, a powerful form of generosity.”
The 600-Day Challenge: How Practicing Generosity Daily Transforms You
“Documenting a daily act of kindness, whether it’s a smile or genuine listening, became a habit that revealed a thousand ways to be generous—proof that practicing generosity opens new perspectives.”
Unexpected Generosity in a Hot Tub: A Chat with Elon Musk
“In an unexpected encounter, Musk showed genuine interest and warmth, sharing laughs and stories. It was a small gesture, but a powerful reminder of the impact of unexpected generosity from those at the top.”
The Hidden Costs of Greed and Division in Today’s Media
“With opinion-driven media stirring division, the challenge lies in overcoming these forces with conscious generosity and mutual respect—proving that true strength is found not in agreement, but in the ability to disagree respectfully.”
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Part One.
How many people do you know who walk into a public restroom and leave it cleaner than they found it? I do—and so does the wife of today’s guest, Monte Wood. Like me, she does it because she wants to make things better for the next person.
Monte, author of Generosity Wins and former CEO of Opus Agency, has worked with industry legends like Mark Benioff, Andy Grove, Steve Jobs, John Chambers and Andy Jassy. He’s learned from them, his mentors, and his mother what generosity truly means and how it leads to success in life and career.
In today’s episode, we dive into Monte’s definition of generosity and why he believes it’s the key to a happier, more successful life.
Tomorrow, we’ll explore why generosity is tough in today’s world and how to nurture a mindset focused on giving.
Still skeptical about how generosity can lead to success? Tune in and join the conversation.
Key Highlights of Our Interview:
True Generosity in Leadership: More Than Just Charity
“Being generous isn’t just about grand acts of philanthropy. It’s about caring for the individual. Whether it’s helping employees grow beyond their roles or driving an old Toyota to work, leaders like Andy Grove and Mark Benioff show that humility and connection are what truly drive success.”
Why Generosity is the Key to Confidence, Courage, and Success
“Generosity isn’t just about giving—it’s a strategic move toward success. Helping others builds faster, more meaningful relationships, while also boosting your own confidence and courage. Harvard’s 50-year study shows that close connections are the top predictor of happiness, and generosity is the engine that powers those relationships.”
Tracking the Untrackable: The True ROI of Generosity
“Generosity doesn’t fit into the typical business models of ROI—no one’s handing you a direct return. Yet, the rewards are undeniable. Life has a way of paying you back tenfold, proving that being generous might be the most strategic investment you can make, even if it can’t be measured in dollars.”
Generosity Isn’t Always Grand – Sometimes It’s Just a Smile
“Even the smallest act of generosity can be life-changing. A smile, a kind word, or even cleaning up a public restroom can shift someone’s day. In a world full of loneliness and depression, simple acts of generosity may be the most powerful way to create joy and connection.”
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Part Two.
Social media has trained us to treat connections like disposable apps—add a “friend” in a second, remove them just as easily. But what happens when we treat relationships this way? Without sustainable connections, how can we collaborate, build strong teams, or achieve lasting outcomes?
In the last episode, I sat down with Edward J. van Luinen and Tricia Cerrone to explore the power of connection and collaboration. That is part one of a two-part series where we looked at how they had turned a positive work relationship at Disney into a lasting personal friendship and a successful business partnership. Together, they’re even co-authoring a book on collaboration.
We reflected on their 10-year collaborative journey, sharing how strong connections can lead to meaningful collaborations.
Today, in part two, we’ll dive deeper into their framework for collaboration, centered on a “noble purpose” and five key behaviours that can transform how we work together. Spoiler alert: their method is far more human-centered than just another software tool.
Key Highlights of Our Interview:
Why Telling People to ‘Collaborate’ Doesn’t Actually Work
“Think you can just tell your team to collaborate and expect magic? Think again. Collaboration isn’t one action—it’s a mix of behaviors, and it starts with the individual, not fancy tools or technologies.”
Why Collaboration Equals Innovation
“Collaboration boosts innovation exponentially. It’s not about wasting time competing with colleagues; it’s about working together to solve problems and deliver innovative solutions that make your company stand out.”
Noble Purpose: More Than Just Vision and Mission
“Leaders need to remind their teams of the noble purpose behind their work. Whether it’s delivering diapers or developing apps, connecting individuals to the bigger impact they have on customers is key to motivation and collaboration.”
The Hidden Barriers to Teamwork: Why Collaboration Fails
“From egos to insecurities, collaboration struggles often stem from within. True teamwork begins by addressing these internal challenges, transforming both ourselves and our workplace relationships.”
Why Gratitude and Generosity Aren’t Just Nice-to-Haves
“Generosity creates safety, resourcefulness unlocks solutions, and gratitude gives teams the chance to rest and recover. Together, these behaviors make collaboration more than a buzzword—they make it work.”
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Part One.
Social media has trained us to treat connections like disposable apps—add a “friend” in a second, remove them just as easily. But what happens when we treat relationships this way? Without sustainable connections, how can we collaborate, build strong teams, or achieve lasting outcomes?
In this episode, I sit down with Tricia Cerrone and Edward J. van Luinen to explore the power of connection and collaboration. This is part one of a two-part series where we look at how they turned a positive work relationship at Disney into a lasting personal friendship and a successful business partnership. Together, they’re even co-authoring a book on collaboration.
We’ll reflect on their 10-year collaborative journey, sharing how strong connections can lead to meaningful collaborations.
Tomorrow, in part two, we’ll dive deeper into their framework for collaboration, centered on a “noble purpose” and five key behaviors that can transform how we work together. Spoiler alert: their method is far more human-centered than just another software tool.
Key Highlights of Our Interview:
Emotional Banking: The Secret to Long-Lasting Work Relationships
“Relationships at work thrive on trust, respect, and mutual goals. By making consistent positive deposits into the ‘emotional bank,’ teams can evolve into high-performing units. Delivering results is key, but so is showing up for each other and building something lasting, as Trish and I found over a three-year project.”
Collaboration Isn’t Just Tools—It’s Human Connection
“The business world is spending almost $40 billion on collaboration tools, which are a band-aid for our failures to communicate. If you don’t have the human behaviours of generosity, resourcefulness, co-creation, action, and gratitude, no technology is going to help your team be happy or collaborate better.”
Be the Change You Seek—Gandhi’s Wisdom for Collaboration
“There’s a great quote by Gandhi: ‘Create the change you want to be.’ That’s the foundation of our collaboration model—being the change and the leader your team is asking you to be.”
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Part Two.
What began as a simple idea to honor a friend has now become a global movement.
The 24 Hour Race is the largest student-run event combating human trafficking. In this episode, we explore how a one-time charity event turned into an ongoing mission, with thousands of students raising 20 millions for a noble cause.
Key Highlights of Our Interview:
From the Wilderness to the Workplace: Business Team Building 401
“Business is a watered-down version of an expedition, and an expedition is a hyperbolic version of business. The success of both depends on understanding team dynamics—bridging the gap between the strongest and weakest players.”
“Your performance isn’t defined by your best players; it’s defined by your weakest. In the expedition world, you have two choices—get rid of your weakest link or rein in your top performers.”
Don’t Be the Adventure Tour Guide—Leadership Takes Tough Calls
“You’re not an adventure tour guide. You’re there to achieve a specific goal, and sometimes that means making tough calls against your team’s individual interests to keep the whole expedition on track.”
Nietzsche, Space Dreams, and Paying the Bills
“Nietzsche teaches us to live life with vitality, to focus on what brings joy in the moment. But, let’s be honest—sometimes that joy includes paying the electricity bill for your sous vide obsession.”
It’s Not All About Musk and Zuckerberg: Real Impact Starts Closer to Home
“The hardest thing isn’t creating global impact like Elon Musk or Mark Zuckerberg—it’s investing in the people around you and making a meaningful difference in their lives.”
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Part One.
What began as a simple idea to honor a friend has now become a global movement.
The 24 Hour Race is the largest student-run event combating human trafficking. In this episode, we explore with the Founder and Executive Chairman of 24 Hour Race, Chris Schrader, how a one-time charity event turned into an ongoing mission, with thousands of students raising 20 millions for a noble cause.
Key Highlights of Our Interview:
How a Teenage Charity Event Turned into a Global Phenomenon Fighting Human Trafficking
“On a typically cold, rainy English day, I suggested to my friends, half-serious, ‘Why don’t we walk across England?’… Sure enough, six months later, we found ourselves walking across England.”
“What started as a one-off 24-hour race in 2010 is now the largest student movement fighting slavery in the world, with events in 25 cities and HK$150 million (US$20 million) raised.”
Why Young People Shouldn’t Just Write Checks: Teaching the Fiduciary Side of Charity
“We want students to view themselves as leaders with the fiduciary responsibility of any charity executive—interviewing project stakeholders to see if the money is really being put to good use.”
Charity Is a Marketplace, Not a Moral Obligation
“Our audience doesn’t need to care about human trafficking to join the event. If they come just for the music festival or because it’s a big sleepover, that’s fine. Our job is to win them over positively.”
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Part Two.
I used to work in LA for TCW Asset Management, where I managed billion-dollar funds for institutions alongside the Bond King, Jeffrey Gundlach, focusing on bond and credit portfolios. Today, I’m meeting someone else from LA, but with a different angle on investment—precious metals like gold and silver. Our guest, Collin Plume, is here to talk about something often overlooked and undervalued.
But don’t worry—this isn’t a sales pitch on buying gold or silver.
Collin and I will dive into more personal topics: family, parenting, retirement, and the sense of control over personal finance, as well as financial education for future generations. So if you have kids, care about your financial future, are looking after elderly family members, or are simply concerned about financial and family planning in general, join us and get inspired by Collin’s journey in building wealth from scratch.
This is part 2 of our 2-part series on Collin and his golden rules of people-focused finance.
Key Highlights of Our Interview:
Gold, Real Estate, and Learning New Tricks: Why Diversifying is the New Smart
“Be willing to learn about a new investment or a new strategy every year, whether you decide to do it or not. But I think being willing to learn about it is important. It will help you and it’ll keep you sharp.”
Beware of Finfluencer Hype: Not Everything That Shines Is Gold
“Too often, people take influencers at face value, believing that the most engaging video equals the best advice. In reality, it’s important to fact-check and do your own research because many influencers are just paid promoters, not experts.”
Do Your Research: Don’t Let Algorithms Make Your Financial Decisions
“Algorithms don’t care if the advice is good; they only care if the content is appealing. So when it comes to financial decisions, it’s on you to dig deeper, check multiple sources, and make sure the influencers you follow are legit.”
The Real Cost of Reckless Spending: Teaching Financial Discipline to the Next Generation
“As a family, we prioritize experiences like travel and education over material goods. I’ve shown my children the gold and silver I’ve set aside for them and explained how these assets will be worth something significant in the future. Whether they want to start a business or pay for college, these investments will be there for them."
“I make sure my kids know that money isn’t something to be taken lightly. Whether it’s explaining mortgages to my 8-year-old or discussing the importance of not being wasteful with their toys, they need to understand that everything has a cost. I often use examples like Disneyland—where you can easily spend thousands in just a few days."
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Part One.
I used to work in LA for TCW Asset Management, where I managed billion-dollar funds for institutions alongside the Bond King, Jeffrey Gundlach, focusing on bond and credit portfolios. Today, I’m meeting someone else from LA, but with a different angle on investment—precious metals like gold and silver. Our guest, Collin Plume, is here to talk about something often overlooked and undervalued.
But don’t worry—this isn’t a sales pitch on buying gold or silver.
Collin and I will dive into more personal topics: family, parenting, retirement, and the sense of control over personal finance, as well as financial education for future generations. So if you have kids, care about your financial future, are looking after elderly family members, or are simply concerned about financial and family planning in general, join us and get inspired by Collin’s journey in building wealth from scratch.
This is part 1 of our 2-part series on Collin and his golden rules of people-focused finance.
Key Highlights of Our Interview:
From Childhood Coin Collector to Precious Metals Expert: How Silver Sparked a Lifelong Passion
“I received silver coins as a child, and even though they were worth just 25 cents on the surface, I learned they were actually worth much more. That stuck with me and led me to see gold and silver as overlooked assets.”
Noble Gold: The Three Careers That Made It Happen
“Insurance taught me customer service. Real estate taught me employee loyalty. And precious metals? That taught me marketing. Together, those experiences became the foundation for Noble Gold.”
It’s All About the People: Why Noble Gold Invests in Human, Not Just AI
“I realized early on that it’s not about what you’re selling—it’s about the people. Everything we do at Noble Gold is focused on creating the best possible human experience. While other companies are going all-in on AI, we’ve hired actual people to build relationships.”
Gold Bars Under the Mattress: Why Some Investors Want to Feel Their Wealth
“As funny as it sounds, some people might still stash their gold under the bed. It’s all about having control—physical, tangible control over your investments.”
Gold to the Rescue: Beating Inflation and Outpacing Bank Returns
“In a time of soaring inflation, 4% returns in the bank aren’t enough. Gold, up 27%, is proving to be a more reliable way to keep up with the rising cost of living.”
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Part Two.
Money Philosopher Michael Sakraida, author of Money, Balance and Joy: Improving Your Life Story, dives into the chaos of balancing wealth and happiness in today’s noisy ever-changing world.
Spoiler: it’s not just about stacking cash.
Michael unveils his three-part happiness equation—monetary wealth, time wealth, and social wealth—and why you need all three in harmony to live your best life.
He doesn’t hold back, taking shots at Wall Street, risk tolerance tests, and the “Financial Media Smut Club” for ignoring the emotional reality of money management. From showing why financial independence is about more than just collecting paychecks to calling out those unregulated financial influencers, Michael mixes real talk with a sprinkle of humor.
If you’re tired of the same old money advice, this episode serves up a refreshingly honest, and a bit cheeky, perspective on finance.
Key Highlights of Our Interview:
Financial Independence: More Than Just a Paycheck—It’s About Legacy
“True financial independence isn’t about working for money; it’s about working for joy. And when you’re gone, it’s the legacy—both financial and non-financial—that really counts.”
When ‘Aggressive’ Turns ‘Anxious’: The Flawed World of Risk Tolerance Tests
“Advisors tick the ‘aggressive’ box, but when the market drops, those same clients can flip out. The problem? Risk tolerance tests don’t dig into the emotional reality behind investing. They aren’t built to handle the emotional rollercoaster of real-life investing.”
Financial Media Smut Club: Why Most Advice Misses the Mark
“Too many financial articles focus on clickbait rather than offering real, actionable insights. The problem? Writers often don’t understand what they’re talking about.”
The Problem with Financial Influencers: Why They Should Be Regulated or Shut Down
“If financial advisors need compliance approval for every email, why do these so-called financial influencers get a free pass to spread advice with zero oversight?”
Financial Advisors: If You’re Not Asking These Three Questions, You’re Doing It Wrong
“Before any numbers come into play, financial advisors should be addressing the emotions tied to wealth: how you got it, what you want to do with it, and your past experiences with Wall Street.”
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Part One.
Money Philosopher Michael Sakraida, author of Money, Balance and Joy: Improving Your Life Story, dives into the chaos of balancing wealth and happiness in today’s noisy ever-changing world.
Spoiler: it’s not just about stacking cash.
Michael unveils his three-part happiness equation—monetary wealth, time wealth, and social wealth—and why you need all three in harmony to live your best life.
He doesn’t hold back, taking shots at Wall Street, risk tolerance tests, and the “Financial Media Smut Club” for ignoring the emotional reality of money management. From showing why financial independence is about more than just collecting paychecks to calling out those unregulated financial influencers, Michael mixes real talk with a sprinkle of humor.
If you’re tired of the same old money advice, this episode serves up a refreshingly honest, and a bit cheeky, perspective on finance.
Key Highlights of Our Interview:
Zen and the Art of Smart Change: Why You Shouldn’t Waste Emotional Energy
“Think of change like triage. Some things are worth saving; others, not so much. It’s about focusing your energy on the changes that actually count.”
The Happiness Equation: Why Money Alone Isn’t Enough
"Money buys happiness when it’s part of a three-part ecosystem—monetary wealth, time wealth, and social joy. Balance the three, and you’ve got the real happiness equation."
Feeling Alone in the Crowd: Why Money Isn’t the Only Problem
“Inflation, Wall Street, and the financial media don’t get it—people feel isolated and misunderstood. It’s not just about cash; it’s about finding control and direction when everything feels chaotic.”
Wall Street’s Blind Spot: The Emotional Toll of Inflation
“While Wall Street and politicians stay comfortable, most people struggle, feeling alone and powerless. The key isn’t just money; it’s reclaiming control in a system that’s stacked against you.”
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In this episode, I sit down with Ian Myers, founder and CEO of Oceans, a talent agency connecting skilled professionals from Sri Lanka with US companies.
While Ian’s known for scaling his business from zero to $10 million in under two years, there’s much more to his story.
A Tintin fan like me, Ian’s career has been shaped by his adventurous spirit—moving from the US to Japan, exploring fields from literature to banking, venture capital to entrepreneurship, and gaming to talent recruitment. His secret? Trust your instincts, gather experiences, adjust when needed, and keep moving forward.
Key Highlights of Our Interview:
Why Tintin Beats Tech Titans: Ian’s Unconventional Role Model
“My role model is Tintin. He’s always up for an adventure, exploring new places, and embracing different cultures. That’s the kind of life I want to live.”
Zen and the Art of Leadership: How Buddhism Shaped My Approach to Chaos
“Buddhism has a lot of excellent teachings that are applicable to running a business… It’s at its core, a method of grounding yourself through honesty in your reality and the potential of everything around you.”
Comparison Anxiety: Why Scrolling LinkedIn Might Be Ruining Your Life
“I talk to young people today, and they’re always comparing themselves. They’ll say, ‘Oh, this person who went to my college is now a vice president. My life is ruined.’ I’ve never really worried about my career; I just follow what’s interesting.”
Experiencing Ageism Across Cultures: From Japan to CEO at 26
“In Japan, age almost becomes the most important thing about you—your track record and success play a much smaller role. That was something I couldn’t personally tolerate.”
Skeptical by Nature: Why Ian Questions AI Hype
“The technology is impressive and important, but like most great innovations, the adoption curve will likely be much longer than people expect. If you look back at tech predictions, the timeline for changing the world is almost always too short.”
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John Gates is someone who can help you get the most out of your compensation package, especially when you’re making a career switch or transition.
When prepping for this interview, I skimmed through his book, ACT YOUR WAGE. It reminded me of my business school days studying negotiation. The concepts really align—like focusing on multiple elements in a negotiation instead of just zeroing in on one number.
But here’s the challenge—Unlike business deals where you can stay strategic and detached, salary talks bring up fear, emotion, and anxiety.
So, with all the emotion tied up in these discussions, how do we break free from focusing on old numbers and truly maximize our return when making a career move?”
Key Highlights of Our Interview:
Coast-to-Coast Hustle: The Ups and Downs of Chasing the Corporate Dream
“During that process of chasing the Fortune 500 career and climbing that ladder, I moved across the country many times. I was laid off several times. I know how terrifying it is to be laid off or separated from a company that once loved you, but now no longer needs you."
From Prosecutor to Defense Attorney: Why Switching Sides Matters
“I do view myself as a former prosecutor who became a defense attorney. I think the best defense attorneys are people who used to be prosecutors because they understand the tactics and strategy and what the other prosecutor is trying to achieve.”
The Silver Bullet Effect: Practical Steps for Negotiation Success
“I start teaching them how to have safe conversations about pay almost immediately. So, very experimentally, I will teach them and drill them and rehearse with them first.”
Salary Negotiation 101: Gladiators Need Not Apply!
“Know your worth and demand your worth. People say, figure out what you’re worth, insist upon that… When I hear that, what I see is high risk. It’s confrontational. It makes it seem like you’re going to be this gladiator… This sort of ultimatum strategy of ‘take it or leave it’ is problematic.”
6 Rules For Successful Salary Negotiation:
1.Do not put “open” or “negotiable” in the salary requirement field — Always put a number.
2.Reframe your salary number into a range during the phone screen — It’s important to shift into a range rather than sticking to a fixed number.
3.Shift the conversation from salary to total compensation — This includes understanding incentives and bonuses beyond the base salary.
4.Use AI tools like ChatGPT to prepare for interviews — This helps generate potential questions and practice responses.
5.Use interview time to sell yourself instead of satisfying curiosity — Focus on addressing their pain points and demonstrating your value.
6.Avoid moving the goalposts during negotiation — Present everything you want in one batch rather than one at a time to prevent putting your offer at risk.
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Part Two.
This episode—and the last—are for the introverts, the ADHDers, those on the autism spectrum, trauma survivors, strategy-brained square pegs, frustrated change-makers, rebelutionaries (that’s rebels and revolutionaries combined), and thinker-doers.
Why? Because our guest today, Sara Lobkovich, is part of these groups. And she’s not holding back anymore. In fact, she’s spent months writing two books that bring together her life lessons and business strategy experience to help us all wake up our inner strategist and achieve big goals—no BS.
In the last episode, part 1, we looked into who Sara is, what she’s been through, and how her past has shaped her purpose today.
In this episode, part 2, we’ll dig into the book—her why, her audience, her objectives, and her vision.
Key Highlights of Our Interview:
A Love Letter To Square Pegs Who Don't Fit In
"This book is a love letter to me earlier in my career. I know I'm not alone. I know there are so many other people who are having experiences like I did.
If I had written this earlier in my life, if I had somehow had the capacity to write this earlier in my life, I would have written a book to people who are strategically wired and feel like they don't fit in a world that's really focused on tactics to people who feel like square pegs in their careers, like we're always a square peg trying to fit into a round hole and just don't fit in."
Two Books, One Mission: Simplifying Strategy and Goal Setting
“I realized I had two books: one is the No BS OKRs workbook, and the other is about modernized, human-centered strategic planning.”
The Moment ‘You Are a Strategist’ Became the Book Title I Had to Write
“I knew the title had to be ‘You Are a Strategist.’ I rewrote the book to deliver on that title.”
Empowering Your Inner Strategist: No Matter What Job You Do
“You might be a dishwasher, noticing things in the restaurant—there’s strategy in everything we do.”
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Part One.
This episode—and the next—are for the introverts, the ADHDers, those on the autism spectrum, trauma survivors, strategy-brained square pegs, frustrated change-makers, rebelutionaries (that’s rebels and revolutionaries combined), and thinker-doers.
Why? Because our guest today, Sara Lobkovich, is part of these groups. And she’s not holding back anymore. In fact, she’s spent months writing two books that bring together her life lessons and business strategy experience to help us all wake up our inner strategist and achieve big goals—no BS.
In this episode, part 1, we’ll dive into who Sara is, what she’s been through, and how her past has shaped her purpose today.
In the next episode, part 2, we’ll dig into the book—her why, her audience, her objectives, and her vision.
Key Highlights of Our Interview:
The Milk Activist: Chocolate Milk Equality at Age Nine
“I successfully petitioned the cafeteria ladies for milk equality… so that the bag lunch kids could also have chocolate milk on Friday.”
Job Hopping or Scanning? Redefining a Nonlinear Career
“They called it job hopping, but my career coach reframed it as being a ‘scanner’ with lots of interests. Turns out, I wasn’t hopping, I was just too excited to make things better!”
The Burnout Chronicles: From Always-On-the-Go to Needing a Why
“I was that guy on the plane, always on the go. My dog lived with my parents for way too long. That lifestyle led me to burnout, and I realized I needed to do things differently.”
Curiosity as a Cure: How Staying Curious Helped Me Avoid Feeling Stuck
“Curiosity is an antidote to stuckness and anxiety. Later in my career, I developed the ability to always have a playground in my brain—something to learn.”
Turning a Job Disappointment into an MBA in Enterprise Politics
“Instead of feeling frustrated, I reframed my experience as a mini MBA in navigating large political organizations with resistance to change.”
Strategy Isn’t About Being the Smartest in the Room—It’s About Asking the Right Questions
“Being a strategist is not just being the smartest person in the room. It’s having a toolkit of questions that uncover facts, spark insight, and develop ideas.”
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This isn’t just a corporate chat!
I’m joined by Jason Bloomfield, Global Head of Change and Experience Design at Ericsson. With 20+ years of experience across companies like M&G PLC, Prudential Financial, and MetLife, Jason’s been in the trenches of M&A integration, direct-to-consumer strategies, and organizational transformation.
Jason opens up about some real-life disruptions—like how his parents’ separation shaped his resilience and how he’s learned to turn big challenges into meaningful change. Whether you’re dealing with personal or professional transformation, Jason’s stories will hit home and keep you hooked.
Episode Breakdown:
0:36—It's All About Giving Back
4:02—From Upper Middle Class to Crash Course in Adulting: Why Unwanted Life Experiences Can Be Your Best Teachers
“I was in the middle of high school, where focus on study really needs to ramp up. Instead, I was learning home economics by necessity and dealing with my parents’ rapidly deteriorating relationship.”
14:04—Building Resilient Relationships: Navigating Anxiety and Fear During Mergers & Acquisitions
17:26—Being human: How is it possible to scale empathy to 100,000 people across 180 countries?
24:44—Navigating Company Pride: When Heritage Turns into Hurdles
“It’s quite a thing to come into a company that has 140, 150 years behind it. Pride can at times obscure a line of sight on the way forward.”
31:11—Asking the Right Questions: The Surprising Reasons Retirees Didn’t Want to Go Paperless
“We thought retirees were less digitally comfortable, but it turns out it was a trust issue—without something physical, they feared companies might alter their records behind the scenes.
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Part Two.
Jennifer Selby Long, who has spent the last 30 years helping tech leaders navigate the waves of tech evolution, leading and managing organizational change. In recent years, her focus has been on cybersecurity, digital transformation, and user experience.
But don’t tune out just yet if you’re not in those fields—what Jennifer shares is relevant to anyone looking to thrive in today’s fast-changing world.
This episode (and the last one) is all about how to guide yourself through personal transformation and step into your next opportunity.
A leader can’t successfully drive organizational change without first mastering their own personal transformation. So, we’ll dive into why understanding the natural process of personal change can help you fast-track your transformation, how to manage self-doubt, avoid sabotaging your own progress, and how to make career moves that truly work in your favor—instead of simply running away from one undesirable situation to the next.
Episode Breakdown:
2:52—Taming Your Inner Saboteur: How to Outsmart Self-Doubt Like a Ninja
“When you start to feel yourself self sabotage, that’s not you. That’s the saboteur neural networks in your mind firing up.”
7:03—Carrie Bradshaw Says, “We All Judge”—But Are We Our Own Worst Critics?
“You can weaken that judge in so many different ways. One is to gently make a little fun like you would with a little kid. Ah, I see you. I caught you. I found you. Hide and seek.”
20:08—Freeze, Change, Unfreeze: A Throwback to Kurt Lewin’s Classic 3-Step Change Model
27:26—Career Jumps or Career Jumbles? How to Leap Toward Success Instead of Another Bad Boss
39:53—Office Politics Unplugged: Is It a Leadership Problem or Just People Being… People?
“Politics can exist for extremely unhealthy reasons in all seriousness, because you have a leader at the top, Who literally has a personality disorder. Another situation that is much more common is that politics exists because people have different needs.”
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Part One.
Jennifer Selby Long, who has spent the last 30 years helping tech leaders navigate the waves of tech evolution, leading and managing organizational change. In recent years, her focus has been on cybersecurity, digital transformation, and user experience.
But don’t tune out just yet if you’re not in those fields—what Jennifer shares is relevant to anyone looking to thrive in today’s fast-changing world.
This episode (and the next) is all about how to guide yourself through personal transformation and step into your next opportunity.
A leader can’t successfully drive organizational change without first mastering their own personal transformation. So, we’ll dive into why understanding the natural process of personal change can help you fast-track your transformation, how to manage self-doubt, avoid sabotaging your own progress, and how to make career moves that truly work in your favor—instead of simply running away from one undesirable situation to the next.
Episode Breakdown:
2:54—When Opportunity Knocked, I Answered! The Accidental Rise of a Coaching Guru for Cybersecurity, Digital Transformation, and UX
11:27—Even Coaches Need a Coach: How Being Coached Turned Jennifer into a Top-Tier Guide
15:53—Change Is Inevitable, So Own It! The Secret Sauce to Becoming a Superstar
"You go through a period of transition, as if you're on a ship and you look back, suddenly you can no longer see the shore. But you're looking out ahead and all you can see is water. When my clients get impatient, their teams get a little uncomfortable with that impatience."
23:19—Battling the Inner Critic: Conquering Self-Doubt and Sabotage Like a Pro
"When you start to feel yourself self sabotage, that's not you. That's the saboteur neural networks in your mind firing up."
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Would you return to office 5 days a week?
Author of The Long Distance Leader, Wayne Turmel and I dive into a crucial topic: long-distance leadership in an era where communication technology is rapidly evolving for both workers and leaders. Yes, you read that right—long-distance leadership, not long-distance relationships. Just like with any relationship, maintaining, nurturing, and fixing long-distance leadership is far from straightforward.
This conversation couldn’t be more timely. When we recorded this episode, Amazon’s CEO had just announced their RTO (Return to Office) policy for 2025, and so far, the media narrative surrounding it hasn’t been exactly positive.
How can Wayne and his team provide solutions as remote and hybrid work models continue to change shape?
Episode Breakdown:
2:30—From performing on stage to helping leaders perform at work
4:54—Long-Distance Leadership: More Than Just a Long-Distance Relationship
8:06—From Pagers to Zoom: How Tech’s Evolution Transformed the Way We Lead and Manage Teams
13:51—New Challenges, New Solutions: What’s Different in the 2024 Edition Since the 2018 Release? (Book Link)
25:16—Amazon’s 2025 RTO Shuffle: How to Make the Office Comeback a Win for All
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Part Two
I’m joined by none other than Erika Ayers Badan, the current CEO of Food52—a leading innovator in the food, cooking, and home space. Before her time at Food52, Erika was the first-ever CEO of Barstool Sports, and her career spans across media, marketing, and tech, with roles at companies like Fidelity, Microsoft, AOL, and Yahoo.
On my show, I bring on guests who are willing to share real, lived stories. And Erika has no shortage of those. In fact, she’s gathered so many lessons along the way that she decided to write her first book, titled No One Cares About Your Career. When I saw that title, I knew I had to develop a two-part series featuring Erika.
In the last episode, we dove into the book—why she wrote it, why now, and why this title. Plus, we’ll unpack some key nuggets of wisdom, including five simple things anyone can do to succeed at work.
In this episode, Erika will open up about her life and career experiences—her upbringing, her parents, her leadership approach, and even her thoughts on toxic work cultures. And here’s something you won’t hear in other interviews: What career advice would Erika give her own two middle and high school-aged kids, especially in today’s rapidly changing world?
Episode Breakdown:
2:42—Blame It on the Parents? How Childhood Shaped a Love for Teaching and a Struggle with Authority
“I really love to teach. I think my parents, who were in education, gave me that. I also have a fairly strange relationship with authority. I think that also comes from my childhood.”
7:57—Do Titles Really Matter? Confessions of a CEO Who Once Cared A Lot
“I don’t really care about titles. It’s a little bit hypocritical because the CEO is a great title. I did care a lot about titles in the hustle years where I was really trying to advance. You should always endeavour to take on more than you had six months ago. Are you doing the same exact thing you did six months ago, without learning, or growing, or tripping on yourself, or taking on something you didn’t know exactly how to do?”
11:51—Why Failure Is a Good Thing: Tripping Over Yourself Is Part of the Plan
14:47—What’s Your Leadership Style? Finding the Balance Between Boss and Buddy
17:07—Toxic Workplace or Just a Bad Day? Getting Real About Fixing Office Culture
“I think that people throw the term toxic workplace around a lot. I’m not sure what it means anymore. I would try to spend as much time as I can to get specifics – what’s going on?”
20:55—Career Advice for My Teenage Kids: Balancing Business and Life Lessons
25:16—What’s Next After ‘No One Cares’? Teasing the Next Passion Project
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I’m joined by none other than Erika Ayers Badan, the current CEO of Food52—a leading innovator in the food, cooking, and home space. Before her time at Food52, Erika was the first-ever CEO of Barstool Sports, and her career spans across media, marketing, and tech, with roles at companies like Fidelity, Microsoft, AOL, and Yahoo.
But let me be clear—this isn’t about interviewing someone with big titles. On my show, I bring on guests who are willing to share real, lived stories. And Erika has no shortage of those. In fact, she’s gathered so many lessons along the way that she decided to write her first book, titled No One Cares About Your Career. When I saw that title, I knew I had to develop a two-part series featuring Erika.
In this episode, we’ll dive into the book—why she wrote it, why now, and why this title. Plus, we’ll unpack some key nuggets of wisdom, including five simple things anyone can do to succeed at work.
In the next episode, Erika will open up about her life and career experiences—her upbringing, her parents, her leadership approach, and even her thoughts on toxic work cultures. And here’s something you won’t hear in other interviews: What career advice would Erika give her own two middle and high school-aged kids, especially in today’s rapidly changing world?
Episode Breakdown:
0:38—A special 2-part series on Erika’s book, career, life, and more
4:40—Revisiting the Roots: A Walk Down Memory Lane to Discover the Past’s Impact on the Present
8:25—The Brutal Truth Behind ‘No One Cares About Your Career’—How Did Erika Land on That Mic-Drop of a Title?
"Nobody's coming to help you. It's up to you to save yourself, grow yourself, push yourself, teach yourself."
12:04—What Sparked the Inspiration Behind Writing the Book?
18:17—What Makes This Book a Game Changer in a Sea of Career Guides?
21:36—Who Is This Book Really For? Unpacking the Audience Behind the Pages
"Just because you went to Princeton doesn't mean you have to go work in finance. A lot of times people get caught up in what everyone else thinks they should do. That's the lore. What everyone else thinks they should be and the reality is that nobody's really thinking about you that much. You should do what makes you happy and tell everyone else to jump off a cliff."
25:45—30 Years, 5 Simple Lessons: How to Succeed at Work Without the Overwhelm
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Gallup’s “State of the Global Workplace” estimates that low employee engagement costs the global economy a staggering $8.9 trillion. That’s 9% of global GDP—basically, the price of fixing our collective mood.
So, how do we boost engagement? Greg Morley says it’s all about fostering a sense of belonging and inclusion.
Greg, one of our early guests in Season One (Episode Ten), has been a long-standing leader in HR and DEI at powerhouses like Moet Hennessy, Disney, and Hasbro. Now, with his debut book “Bond: Belonging and the Keys to Inclusion and Connection,” he shares his battle-tested insights on building engaged, thriving teams and cultures in multicultural organizations.
Episode Breakdown:
2:25—From Season One to Season Three: Is Greg Aging Like Fine Wine or Just Getting More Engaging?
5:35—Belonging in the Workplace: Why It’s Easier to Find a Unicorn Than Foster Connection These Days
"Individuals are more and more isolated because of social media. Social media has this double edged way of impacting people; it makes us much more connected, but much less connected."
"Many people don't have safe places outside of work, and it's a responsibility of employers to create a place that's a safe place to work."
13:02—The Domino Effect of Disconnection: How Losing Belonging Hurts Everyone (Even Your Coffee Breaks)
19:07—Greg’s Take on DEI: Leading Like a Maestro in the Symphony of Work
"It's a matter of appreciating the differences in the workforce. Trying to get the best out of the people so that they feel included."
23:00—Ideas Are Cool, But Leadership Involvement Is Where the Magic Happens
32:50—DEI in the Age of “Woke”: Navigating the Cultural Rollercoaster
36:41—East vs. West in DEI: Same Symphony, Different Instruments
"What I found in Asia is, it is a more collective environment with a collective culture. We really do need to start with the stories of people in the organization rather than starting with the KPI that we want to achieve."
"If it's Hong Kong culture, or it's Japanese culture, then build out from that versus saying, we're gonna have 50 percent target on gender. And then we cascade that to the whole organization, which is more of a Western way of approaching something."
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Every day, it seems like you can’t escape news of layoffs, corporate downsizing, or restructuring.
Today’s guest, Benedikt Oehmen, has been directly impacted by it. Benedikt spent 17 years with Blizzard, a market leader in creating epic gaming experiences.
In today’s workplace, loyalty to employers—or even employers’ loyalty to employees—feels like a relic of the past. So, how was that experience for him? For the most part, it was positive and enjoyable. But then, things shifted. Hearts were broken. Hopes were shattered.
Now, Benedikt is turning that experience into something powerful. He’s built a full-time practice to help others navigate similar challenges of layoffs and downsizing, offering a shift in mindset and sharing the principles from his book, where he lays out his “Big Three” strategies for stepping out of the shadows and moving on—better, faster, and stronger.
Episode Breakdown:
2:53—From Physicist to Gamer at Blizzard
5:13—From 17 Years of Loyalty to Facing Layoffs: When Blizzard Prioritized Profit Over People
“I started with Blizzard in 2005, and by 2018, after 13 years, the focus had shifted from creating epic experiences for gamers to just making more money.”
13:51—Breaking Free from the Corporate Overlord: Coaching Passionate Geeks on Their Own Terms
“Bound to a corporate overlord who tells me what to do and where my priorities are. And all my efforts basically go towards making rich people even richer in a sense."
19:38—From Panic to Possibility: How to Flip Career Transitions into Exciting New Opportunities
24:21—Learning in Disguise: How the “Big Three” Turns Mistakes into Milestones
“Being kind to me is all about self-acceptance, embracing the good things in our life and not looking at what we think we are missing.”
29.38—From Five Minutes a Day to a Finished Book: How Tiny Steps Lead to Big Wins
35:47—From Kindness to Saving the World: An Elevator Pitch for a Life-Changing Book
(tiny.cc/Big-Three-Goodies) -- "the Art of Meaningful Change" is freely available for download
“It’s like a tabletop that we built ourselves with different aspects, and we choose how we want to play our game of life on top of that tabletop.”
39:37—Self-Compassion Isn’t Selfish: Why You Need to Put On Your Oxygen Mask First
“It is in a sense egotistical, but egotistical in service of helping others.”
43:54—Nuggets of Wisdom for Navigating Layoffs: From Setback to Bounce Back
“Be aware of that mindset. If you’re in the mindset of ‘this is the end of the world,’ then that’s where your reactions and thoughts will lead you.”
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Our youngest guest is in the house today!
I started this show in Hong Kong, and I run this show in Hong Kong. I’m originally from Hong Kong, talking to guests from every corner of the world. Yet, so far, I haven’t interviewed any guest from right here in Hong Kong.
Today, that changes.
I’m excited to bring a local guest to the studio—May Yeung, founder of the charity Art of My Family, a teaching artist, a cancer survivor, a mother to a 11-month-old cute boy. May has experienced many life changes over the years, and she’s determined to use the power of art, in her own way, to change lives and create an environmentally sustainable, mentally healthy, and socially inclusive society here in Hong Kong.
Hong Kong is not just about business, finance, and money. May has chosen a different path to do well and do good.
And as a side note: we’ve got our youngest guest ever—May’s 11-month-old son—joining us on the show, so don’t go away!
Episode Breakdown:
3:17—From Wall Scribbles to Ceramics: A Childhood Steeped in Art
“From the time I was around two years old, I would draw on walls before I could even write my name. By five, my father and I were creating ceramics together. At age 12, my fascination with dadaism and pop art gave me the conviction to become an artist.”
"I met Professor Jeff Oppenheimer who gave a lecture on integrating art into daily life, and daily life into art, and the contents of this lecture really helped to form the framework and direction of my art to this day."
6:00—Where Art Meets Music: How Music Has Influenced Her Art Creation
8:41—From Crunching Numbers to Crafting Impact: How Finance Led May to Art and Social Change
11:20—Faith Over Fear: How Battling Cancer Transformed a Perfectionist into a Celebrator of Life’s Small Wins
"I think the cancer experience really let me feel a greater sense of conviction to serve the underprivileged"
16:25—Art for Archer: How Motherhood and Heritage Shape Her Creations
18:09—Dim Sum and Chinese Checkers: Weaving Hong Kong’s Culture into Every Piece of Art
21:34—Memorable Art Pieces “What If” and “Blossom Love”: Sculpting Bridges Between Cultures and Endless Possibilities
23:19—From Corporate CSR to Creative Compassion: The Birth of Art of My Family
30:00—May’s Life Mission to Inspire the Next Generation: The Three C’s of Art Education and the Role of a Teaching Artist
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Christopher Quek wants to be his own man.
In this episode and the last, I talk to Chris, a third-generation member of a well-established family business in Singapore. Against his father’s expectations, he left the family business and his home country to pursue entrepreneurship in Malaysia, where he became an e-commerce entrepreneur. Upon returning to Singapore, he sold his inheritance to raise the setup capital for his venture capital firm TRIVE.
We explore his journey of transformation in two parts.
Last episode focuses on his pursuit of his own identity—his desires, his actions, the why and the how.
In this episode, we’ll dive into his current work as a VC investor, building up the entrepreneurial ecosystem in Singapore and Southeast Asia. We’ll discuss the legacy he hopes to create for his country and the region; and we’ll explore his expectations for his children as a father at age 46.
Episode Breakdown:
0:34—Setting the stage and the tone for this and the next episode
2:23—Kicking off with a big question: Is Singapore still relevant after 50 years? Here's an entrepreneurial view
"In 2015, when Singapore celebrated its 50th birthday as a nation. Singapore evolved itself out of necessity where it built a whole nation, a workforce of engineers, scientists, bankers, lawyers, doctors, specialists. We started losing a whole generation of entrepreneurs."
7:11—Bridging the Generation Gap: How to Turn ‘Parents’ Old Ways’ into a Future-Proof Family Business
"I actually have a network of over 300 family business owners across Southeast Asia. And there's always this common themes that starts first. Number one, how do I talk to my parents? How do I have a good working relationship with my parents and a family relationship back at home? Number two, I don't like the way that my parents are doing things and I need to transform this business. How do I convince my parents that I can transform this business as well?"
11:04—Turning Spare Millions into Family Business Magic: The Synergy Cycle of Tech, Money and Southeast Asian Economy
"Everyone gets to have food on the table. What we didn't realize that what this family business did was that it took that technology, have more food, more quantity, and decided to sell it cheaper to a poorer province, where those villagers were now able to obtain more quantity of food for their families."
21:35—Breaking the Patriarchal Mold: How Self-Development Earned Me My Father’s Respect
"My father has been an Asian patriarch with an iron fist. He now talks to me about the side businesses that he's doing. He asks me as his advisor and no longer sees the son on whom he used to look down."
25:41—Still Figuring It Out: The Never-Ending Saga of Self-Discovery
"I still believe that I'm evolving. I'm still learning more in terms of understanding my identity."
28:27—Fatherhood and Fortune: What’s the Game Plan for Your Next Generation, Chris?
"Anybody who wants to help the next generation is to be a mentor of values rather than a mentor of processes."
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Christopher Quek wants to be his own man.
In this episode and the next, I’ll be talking to Chris, a third-generation member of a well-established family business in Singapore. Against his father’s expectations, he left the family business and his home country to pursue entrepreneurship in Malaysia, where he became an e-commerce entrepreneur. Upon returning to Singapore, he sold his inheritance to raise the setup capital for his venture capital firm TRIVE.
We’ll explore his journey of transformation in two parts.
This episode focuses on his pursuit of his own identity—his desires, his actions, the why and the how.
In the next episode, we’ll dive into his current work as a VC investor, building up the entrepreneurial ecosystem in Singapore and Southeast Asia. We’ll discuss the legacy he hopes to create for his country and the region; and we’ll explore his expectations for his children as a father at age 46.
Episode Breakdown:
0:34—Setting the stage and the tone for this and the next episode
3:13—Father’s Furious Expectations: When a Third-Gen Heir Sneaks Out of the Family Business
"I couldn't stand all the pollution that the manufacturing plant was producing. And finally, after three days, I sneaked back to Singapore and my father saw me. He got angry. He shouted at me."
7:35—Family Education 101: Learning P&L Over Dinner with Dad, Where Burgers Come with a Side of Calculating Profits
"He would take me out to restaurants. And he forced me to start calculating out the revenues. He will start telling me like, what do you think is the expenses behind this? And I had to start learning a profit and loss statement just by that very visible conversation itself."
10:36—Beyond the Textbook: How Mentorship Shaped Chris' Evolution
"I'm a product of my mentors in my life. So I'm the number two and number three mentors were also very successful businessmen."
16:30—Owning My Identity: Mr. Quek or Just Mr. Quek’s Son?
"There was already a trigger point in my value system that was I going to continue as a the next generation of business owners to continue polluting, just to make money for the sake of money."
20:59—Finding My Way: From Circumstances to Self-Fulfilment
"It was more of circumstances and situations and opportunities that just appeared. If you ask me like some certain crossroads in my life, for example, heading off to Malaysia instead of China I felt that was the right thing to do."
23:14—The Adventure of Self-Discovery: Uncovering Hidden Layers of Yourself at Every Stage
"Give you a little bit of the element of what at every stage is about really discovering yourself, which is really an exciting journey. You don't realize that you have actually a lot of things about yourself that you haven't discovered. "
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A one-of-a-kind, Double Vince episode is here!
Vince Chan hosting Vince Jeong from Sparkwise. Vince J takes us on a wild ride—from navigating the immigrant experience at 12, to shaking up the corporate training world with an edtech revolution. From discovering a passion for people development to scaling the unscalable in adult learning.
Whether it’s cracking the code on real human connections in a digital age or bringing McKinsey-level training to your fingertips, this episode is packed with hard-won wisdom and sharp insights that will leave you inspired to level up your own journey.
Episode Breakdown:
1:53—Immigrant Experience 101: Learning English and Rediscovering Myself at Age 12
3:50—Learning by Doing: The Best Way to Discover What You Really Want. Why Theorizing Only Gets You So Far.
“I’ve often found that you can only really discover and learn your true preferences by gaining first-hand experience. Theorizing only gets you so far.”
13:14—Bringing McKinsey’s Gold Standard to Everyone: The Spark Behind Creating an EdTech for Live Group Learning
“At McKinsey, people fought to get onto training programs. It was interactive, engaging, and team-based. I thought that’s what corporate training looked like everywhere—until I saw the difference in other organizations.”
17:09—From TV Host to Startup Boss: The Founder-Market Fit of Live Group Learning
“Throughout my life, I’ve just been involved in a lot of things that involve live groups. I used to be on TV in Korea, hosting live shows and facilitating conversations.”
18:55—Differentiation Value to Create: Scaling the Unscalable
"What we're doing is we're taking that experience that today can only be accessed by really privileged settings and making it much more accessible to many more people through technology."
23:04—Rebuilding Stronger Community: Foster Real Connections Beyond Social Media’s Shallow Bonds
“We create an environment where people solve problems together that are realistic but fictitious, which helps them engage deeply without having to be vulnerable from the get-go.”
27:24—Partners in Crime: Those Who Crave Rich Interactions or Scale Quality Learning at a Bargain
30:24—Turning Idle Content into Action: Beating AI with Human-to-Human Engagement for Deeper Learning
“There’s a lot of idle content out there today, and simply reading is rarely the best way for people to actually understand those concepts.”
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If you were the host of this show, how would you define the following guest?
Our first guest from Belgium: Sihame El Kaouakibi.
She’s a Moroccan immigrant, a burnout and bankruptcy survivor, a parliamentarian, a champion of diversity and inclusion, the creator of Women Leaders OS, and a women’s leadership coach. She is all of these and more.
But beyond these identities, what truly captivates me are the experiences that have shaped these transformations.
Some people thrive in politics, others in stability. Sihame thrives in adversity. She describes herself as more than resilient—she’s anti-fragile. I see Sihame as someone who has learned, over time, to turn adversity into an advantage. It’s not an inborn talent; it’s something nurtured and developed.
How? Tune in and find out now.
Episode Breakdown:
02:15—Burnt Out, Bankrupt, and Back in Business
“I went from being burnt out, confused, overwhelmed, and even bankrupt to now being in the best shape of my life—physically, mentally, and professionally.”
5:56—Validation Detox: Kicking the Need for External Approval
“Without success, without my work, without external validation and recognition, I felt like nothing. I felt nobody.”
11:42—Politics 101: When Ego Meets Reality
“I made an ego-driven decision, and it was a messiah complex, believing I had everything—like potential and talents to drive change.”
“I wasn’t aligned with my values and beliefs anymore. So my lesson is if you feel you have to give up on your principles, quit.”
21:59—Thriving vs. Surviving: Why “You’re Not Stuck, You’re Just in the Wrong Pot” Applies to Your Career
“The most liberating decision can be to move on and find your tribe, find your environment where you can thrive.”
“Sometimes it’s better to accept the rejection than feeling stuck. Rejection can be redirection, and it’s sometimes better to just leave.”
25:41—Operating System for Women Leaders: How to Handle Life’s Curveballs Without Crashing
“My mission is to help 1 million women turn life challenges into life changes for the better. These women want to break through in their careers, but they want to do it without the burnouts.”
“Women still lack internal beliefs and also support systems. So it starts really with women deciding that they are worthy and willing to change.”
43:46—Success Isn’t Always Instagram-Pretty: The Ugly Side of the Hustle
“There’s so much about glamorized success, but there is always another side. People you envy might be in deep pain, even if they are millionaires or have social status.”
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What happens when sports stars hang up their jerseys and dive into the business world?
James Hilovsky believes franchising is the perfect play for athletes’ second acts.
A former baseball player, James has 35 years in the franchise game, especially in the restaurant world. Now, he’s a franchise matchmaker, pairing retired NFL and NBA athletes with their ideal franchise ventures.
James sees athletes and franchisees as kindred spirits: both thrive on rules, take calculated risks, and turn failures into lessons. In this episode, he shares his playbook for helping athletes and everyday folks make successful business transitions. Plus, he dishes out advice for anyone eyeing the franchise field.
Episode Breakdown:
00:32—Introduction: Rundown of today’s episode
02:47—From Baseball Dreams to Business Teams
“When I was growing up, I was a baseball player. I was actually in the minor leagues for the Philadelphia Phillies. And unfortunately, my career was very quick—I got hurt and then was done.”
10:02—Playing by the Playbook: Franchising and Sports Parallels
“The franchisor is going to give you the playbook. Here’s the playbook. Here’s how to set up the business. Here’s the equipment you need. Athletes are especially good at following the playbook.”
15:53—From Super Bowl Glory to Mental Health Advocacy
“I had a former NFL player, a Super Bowl winner, who transitioned from his own wine business to a mental health franchise, aiming to help those with addiction issues and concussions. His goal was to put one in every NFL city.”
22:11—Winning Traits: Risk-Taking, Coachability, and Leadership in Athletes
“They are able to take that risk, take that coaching, and then they’re also able to lead their team or their employees into the franchise system.”
27:25—Ego Check: Navigating Passion and Pride in Franchising
“Ego is definitely one that has to be held in check. The great thing about a franchisor is they’re looking out just for the business.”
32:36—Failing Forward: Athletes’ Tolerance for Failure in Business
“Athletes are used to failure. Not every athlete succeeds at every game. In baseball, if you’re a 300 hitter, that’s outstanding. That means you failed 7 times out of 10.”
37:20—Key Advice for Non-Athletes: The Importance of a Good Franchise Broker
“Always look for a franchise broker. Talk with them, see if they’re a fit for you, and check their website and LinkedIn posts to understand the type of person they are.”
43:21—The Joy of Matchmaking: Guiding Clients to Their Perfect Franchise
“Knowing that they’re on this new journey and I just feel so good knowing that I’ve helped them in a small bit of finding that right match.”
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Conquering Her Darkest Period: From Psychology Major to Parliament Victory
On this week's episode of “Chief Change Officer,” Pei Ling Tin, the youngest elected Parliamentarian, recounts some of the darkest moments of her journey from being a psychology major to winning the general election. She discusses how facing biases related to age and gender has made her more resilient, both in terms of stamina and ability. Wondering about her secret sauce to success?
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Unlock the secrets of lasting change with Pei Ling Tin in Part 2 of our “Chief Change Officer” podcast. Dive deep into transforming your life and career. What will Pei Ling's change model reveal to you? Tips: 3 steps
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Learn now Mary Shea harmonises "the art of leadership" and "the science of sales" to orchestrate stellar career that's truly her own.
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Katie reveals her incredible journey of change and growth. She shares:
From Small Beginnings to Big Dreams: How she made the leap from a small town to the Big Apple, navigated the transition from communism to Wall Street, and evolved from working at an established credit rating agency to leading tech innovation in the insurance sector.
Risk into Opportunity: The art of leveraging her expertise in risk assessment to seize educated opportunities and drive success.
Building Mental Fortitude: Strategies for developing mental toughness, enabling her to move forward and recover swiftly from setbacks.
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In this engaging episode, we explore the transformative impact of Gen Z in the workplace with Katie Curry, a Gen X leader who bridges the generational divide at home and at work.
Katie champions the value of adapting to change, emphasizing a leadership style that pivots to embrace transparency, meritocracy, and agility. Her insights reveal the critical need for companies to evolve in response to the changing expectations of Gen Z employees, thus maintaining a competitive edge in a rapidly shifting corporate landscape.
Katie's approach to leadership is deeply rooted in seeing individuals as humans first, advocating for a culture of understanding, simplicity, and humility. She highlights the necessity of leadership that can adapt and change, fostering an environment where solutions are collaboratively discovered and innovation flourishes.
For Gen Z on the cusp of their careers, Katie underscores the importance of embracing change with a focus on skill development, community building, and mental resilience. She advises on finding one's strengths, diversifying personal networks, and viewing career pivots with excitement rather than fear, positioning change as an avenue for growth and opportunity rather than a barrier.
Through Katie's perspective, we gain a deeper understanding of the dynamic interplay between leadership and the workforce of the future. Her narrative champions change as a fundamental element in nurturing a thriving, inclusive workplace and in guiding Gen Z towards fulfilling career paths amidst the complexities of the modern world.
Katie highly recommends these insightful books to our audience, emphasizing their transformative potential for personal and professional growth:
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How do you like a free, unfiltered Berkeley Haas MBA course by Dr. Juliana Schroeder?
Currently, Juliana is the Harold Furst Chair in Management Philosophy and Values and Associate Professor in the Management of Organizations at Berkeley Haas. Juliana’s research examines how people make social judgments and decisions. She studies the psychological processes underlying how people think about the minds of those around them, and how their judgments then influence their decisions and interactions.
Juliana has taught in all of the MBA degree programs at Haas, including the Full-time MBA program, the Evening and Weekend MBA program, and the Executive MBA program, as well as the PhD program. She teaches classes such as: Leading People, Negotiations and Conflict Resolution, and Experimental Methods in Behavioral Science. She also directs multiple executive education programs such as Communications Excellence and the CEO program.
She is also a co-founder of the Psychology of Technology Institute, which supports and advances scientific research studying psychological consequences and antecedents of technological advancements. Personal website
Episode Breakdown:
3:39 — Road to Behavioral Scientist: How she was drawn to psychology as a profession.
10:42 — AI and the Perception of Power in Decision-Making: Discussing a 2020 paper published before ChatGPT—what foresights did she explore, and what are the implications for now and the future? The paper link
22:28 — AI as a Strategy Tool for Executives: Exploring whether AI is the best strategist for executives in high-stake and low-stake decisions.
28:50 — AI's Role in Synchronous and Asynchronous Human Communications: How AI influences different modes of communication.
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How did managing wild complaints at a call center prepare you to lead people operations and champion DEI initiatives at one of the world's most culturally diverse wine and spirits groups?
Fun fact: Part of the LVMH group, Moët Hennessy includes 26 houses, generating €6.6 billion in 2023 revenue. Renowned brands like Moët & Chandon, Krug, Veuve Clicquot, Hennessy, and Château d’Yquem epitomize prestigious origins and terroirs. This global portfolio blends heritage with innovation, authenticity with creativity in its exceptional champagnes, wines, and spirits.
A former account manager at GM, Paris-based Greg Morley began his HR and People Operations career at Walt Disney World, where he worked for over 15 years. His career has taken him from Paris to Hong Kong and Shanghai. Subsequently, he joined Hasbro to continue his work in talent management and HR. He was also part of the organizing team for the first Gay Games held in Hong Kong in 2022.
Currently, Greg is the Global Head of Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion, and Regional HR Director for Asia Oceania at Moët Hennessy. He serves on the advisory board of Simmons University's Institute for Inclusive Leadership and is about to launch his first book, 'BOND,' which explores building a sense of belonging at work and in life.
Episode Breakdown:
4:06 — Greg's Odyssey: From a call center to Walt Disney and Moët Hennessy.
5:44 — Leveraging Experience: How did Greg's frontline commercial role prime him for a longstanding career in HR and People functions?
8:00 — Strategic Alliances: Mastering CEO partnerships as a senior HR leader or CHRO.
10:01 — Transforming DEI: Rewiring systems from the inside out for local, regional, and global impact.
17:52 — Navigating Complexity in Diversity: Balancing the blessings and burdens of Moët Hennessy’s diverse, multi-layered culture.
25:17 — Unveiling 'Bond': Greg's upcoming book—its inspirations, its goals, and what it hopes to solve.
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What happens when higher education is plagued by competition and a lack of collaboration?
Ever wondered what would happen if higher education was more like a reality TV show?
In this episode, we tackle the “Higher Ed Hunger Games,” where universities are too busy competing to work together. Dr. Bridget Burns, the CEO of the University Innovation Alliance (UIA) and the host of The Innovating Together Podcast, takes us from her small-town roots in rural America to the front lines of educational reform. She’s on a mission to turn these academic rivals into allies.
Bridget’s goal? To boost graduation and employment rates for low-income students by transforming higher education into a more cooperative and innovative field.
Forget the drama, we’re talking real change here—no politics is needed, just good old-fashioned teamwork that is centered on humanity.
Episode Breakdown:
00:35—Introduction: Rundown of today's episode
03:20—Overcoming Adversity: Bridget's Journey from Isolation to Empowerment
“I grew up in a cul de sac of racism, homophobia, misogyny—very rural America—and getting out was super important.”
06:33—Problem in Universities: Unveiling the Diffusion of Innovation Problem
“We don’t know if what we’re doing is any good, or how to scale it.”
10:59—Higher Ed Hunger Games: Tackling the Cutthroat Competition
"Higher education is highly competitive, hierarchical, set up to pit you against others, which leaves very little space to share about shared problems."
16:03—Real Change or Just for Show? Scouting for True Innovators in Academia
"We need to figure out who else is a worker bee, who's interested in doing the really hard stuff and not just drawn to the image."
18:48—Who Actually Likes Change? Spoiler: No One
“Everyone who says they like change is a liar. You only like change that is your idea and that you actively participate in creating.”
30:07—Mending Hearts in the Office: When Leaders Turn into Heartbreakers
"There are a lot of people walking around with broken hearts because they’ve had a leader who’s betrayed them."
33:39—The AI Rat Race: Why Can’t We All Just Get Along?
"This natural tendency to compete with each other. There’s like an arms race and that’s what’s happening with AI.”
38:41—From Cap and Gown to Capable and Grown: Reinventing the Grad-to-Gig Highway
"There should be coaches for faculty to embed career readiness into every single classroom, starting from the first class a student takes."
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What words would you use to describe a recruiter?
Holly asked this question to a focus group before she started Facet.
She said, “bloodsucker, selfish, high commission. You name it. They were just not good. Someone even compared recruiters to canned goods in a pantry. They said recruiters will reach into the back, grab an old can of beans, dust it off, present it to the client, and if the client doesn’t want it, they put it back and you never hear from them again.”
In this episode, Holly shares how her prior experience as a recruiter helped her transform the headhunting business from a transaction mindset to a people-first platform—bringing back humanity to one of the most human-centric businesses.
Episode Breakdown:
01:25—Full Circle: Holly’s return to recruiting and her plans to do it differently this time.
05:40—Recruitment Woes: Putting a price tag on tears? The absurdity of valuing deeply personal moments in headhunting.
07:33—Focus Group Fiasco: Holly’s hilarious and grim findings from focus groups, where recruiters were compared to bloodsuckers and old cans of beans in a dusty pantry.
09:27—Life-Changing Calls: Recruiters can flip your world like a pinball game! One call can turn a dull job into a dream career. Holly shares how making interviews fun can change lives.
11:33—Sharp Eyes for Talent: Recruiter’s superpower in spotting potential. Holly’s story of convincing a woman in her 60s she’s perfect for a role, proving age is just a number.
14:32—AI’s Blind Spot: AI can’t spot empathy and creativity in cross-industry talents. Holly explains how AI would have missed her entirely—she’s not even in the data pool!
20:16—Million-Dollar Career Advice: Holly’s top tips for job seekers—be authentic, build real connections, and network like it’s your job. Reciprocity is core to every relationship.
30:36—Bonus: Podcast Therapy. Holly shares why being interviewed here is a therapeutic experience.
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Would you keep pushing for a university degree if it took you four times as long to finish?
Holly did. It took her 17 years to achieve her university degree because it was her dream. Her life motto: Always finish what you start. It’s never too late to reach the finish line.
Join us as we delve into the extraordinary story of Holly Bond, a remarkable Canadian entrepreneur and president of a headhunting firm. From motherhood to building a successful franchise and eventually transitioning into the headhunting business, Holly’s journey is truly inspirational.
Episode Breakdown:
00:33—Holly Unplugged: Dive into the life of a Halifax local juggling degrees, diapers, and dumbbells.
12:56—Tick-Tock Motivation: Holly shares the poignant reason she pushes so hard: “My mother died at the same age I am now. I have so many things I want to do. I’m afraid of one day dying or reaching 85 and regretting not trying today.”
16:50—Franchise Fever: From a concerned mom to an international franchise sensation overnight. It all started when Holly’s son was 13 and overweight. After a TV interview, she received 103 emails from around the world inquiring about franchising.
25:40—The Humble Entrepreneur: “Don’t let your ego get inflated and always listen to genuine advice from people who care about you.” Holly reflects on how she nearly lost everything—both personally and professionally—without this mindset.
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Is financial independence a realistic goal or just a marketing myth?
Join us as Gagan Sandhu, a mechanical engineer turned fintech founder, challenges conventional wisdom alongside host Vince Chan in a spirited Chicago Booth-style debate.
Gagan Sandhu emigrated from India to the States 20 years ago. Just two years ago, he launched a fintech company called Xillion aimed at empowering millennials and Gen Zers to achieve financial independence—a concept he and Vince will vigorously explore and debate.
Expect to hear Gagan’s unique insights on navigating career paths, prepared meticulously despite his busy schedule. His dedication to understanding the show’s scope, seeking examples, and sharing his experiences in advance promises an enriching dialogue.
Stay tuned for the next 45 minutes—you’re in for some serious learning.
Episode Breakdown:
02:29—Meet Gagan Sandhu: Indian Immigrant Who Believes in the Power of Determined Change
08:00—Thirst for Knowledge: The Secret Sauce Behind Career Makeovers
14:59—Financial Independence: What is Gagan's definition?
25:54—Devil’s Advocate: Vince Probes Human Psychology and the Reality of Financial Independence
28:16—Debate Club: Gagan Makes His Case for the Liberating Power of Financial Planning
32:57—Who’s on Gagan’s Help List? Unpacking His Mission
37:45—FinFluencer Frenzy: Gagan Weighs In on the Social Media Buzz
41:05—Career Curveballs: Gagan’s Guide to Navigating Layoffs and Skill Shifts
45:40—Merit Over Age: Gagan’s Hiring Philosophy at Xillion
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Who’s been rocking the podcast charts? We have!
Since our launch, we’ve attained the highest rankings in Ireland—#1 in Careers and #2 in Business.
And believe it or not, today we’re hosting our first ever phenomenal Irish guest! High time our chart-topping success met some true Irish flair.
Based in Dublin, Ireland, Lucy Gernon is a dedicated mother of three and a millennial who brings a rich background in biotechnology and an extensive career in medical science to her recent entrepreneurial endeavors. She focuses on coaching both emerging and established women leaders.
This podcast aims to do more than share success stories; it delves into real, lived experiences that include triumphs, challenges, unexpected events, and significant shifts. Lucy’s journey perfectly illustrates these aspects, providing deep insights that extend beyond her professional achievements.
Episode Breakdown:
01:39—Meet Lucy Gernon: Two Decades in Biotech to a Two-Year Leap into Leadership Coaching
06:14—The Turning Point: How a Sudden Loss Rewrote the Script
10:39—Balancing Acts: Real Talk on Juggling Startups, Family, and Finances
14:48— How Being Coached Improves Her Coaching for Under-Confident Women
16:43—Defining Confidence: Lucy’s Take on an Overused Buzzword
18:59—Why Executive Presence Matters for Ambitious Women: Lucy’s Masterclass
22:59—Finding the Ideal Client: Lucy’s Journey Through Misses and Trials
26:28—AI vs. Human Touch: Lucy Explains What AI Can’t Replace in Coaching
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What does the movie "Inside Out" teach us about leadership?
My conversation with Wayland Lum from Copperbox Leadership Advisory, who brought up "fear is the precursor to courage," reminded me of Joy and Sadness in "Inside Out."
The movie is all about human emotions. And there's this interesting dynamic between Joy and Sadness in the movie. The big lesson is that you can't really appreciate joy if you've never experienced sadness. I see a similar principle in what you were saying about fear and courage. They are not as separate as we might think. They are two sides of the same coin.
In this episode, you'll find out why fear isn't your enemy, but rather your courage's hype man. Wayland also shared his 8 principles of modern leadership. His moves from California to Mexico to Chicago and London. From Nvidia to Chicago Booth to Korn Ferry, now building his own leadership advisory practice in Austin, Texas. Lastly, his views on the AI coaching.
Episode Breakdown:
00:14—Welcome and Introductions: Meet Your Human Host (While Human Intelligence is still Valued)
02:54—The Great Escape: Why Wayland decided to ditch the cushy corporate life and bet on himself. Spoiler: It wasn't for the free snacks
11:33—"We Develop Modern Leaders to Face the Biggest Business Challenges": How Wayland Defines Modern in the Context of Leadership?
15:33—Wayland's Eight Principles of Modern Leadership:
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A Multi-Billion-Dollar Question for Employers: Is Your Next CEO More Likely to Be Chosen by an Algorithm or a Headhunter?
In this episode of the Chief Change Officer podcast, host Vince Chan welcomes back Mary Shea, PhD, a seasoned tech leader in sales and revenue enablement, to discuss the evolving landscape of HR and recruitment.
The conversation delves into Mary's career journey, from classical musician to a senior tech role, and her current collaboration with HR tech company HireQuotient. They explore how generative AI and sophisticated recruitment technology are transforming the hiring process, especially in identifying and engaging diverse candidates.
Additionally, Vince and Mary discuss the importance of human touch in technology-driven recruitment, share personal anecdotes, and offer advice for job seekers navigating an increasingly AI-driven market.
Episode Breakdown:
00:20—Welcome and Introductions: Meet Your Human Host (While I'm Still Employed)
03:17—HireQuotient: Where Mary Decided to Play Cupid Between Job Seekers and AI
09:01—Unveiling HireQuotient's Secret Sauce: Is It AI, Magic, or Just Really Good Coffee?
14:35—Myth-Busting Time: How Can AI Hire Better Fit and Higher-Skilled Candidates Than Just Entry-Level Positions?
22:28—Vince's Personal Tale: When AI Recruitment Felt More Human Than Human Recruiters (Plot Twist!)
32:26—Mary's Job-Seeking Wisdom: Navigate the AI Maze Without Losing Your Human Touch
36:51—Why You Should Still Network with Humans (At Least Until AI Learns to Enjoy Happy Hour)
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This is Part 3 of a special three-part podcast series titled “Love and Logic.”
This Pride Month, we’re celebrating the spirit of championing our true identities with a special three-part podcast series titled “Love and Logic.” Waverly Deutsch, a proud member of the LGBTQ community and a staunch advocate for women entrepreneurs, navigates her multifaceted identity with aplomb— from a theater lover to PhD, from a STEM major to MBA professor, and from retiree to a baby boomer coaching venture builder.
Waverly, often compared to “the Simon Cowell of the Chicago Booth New Venture Challenge,” is celebrated not just for her straightforward feedback but for coupling it with practical, transformative advice. It’s this combination of tough love and insightful guidance that has influenced her approach to coaching underrepresented entrepreneurs at WyseHeart Advisory.
Episode Breakdown:
00:21—Finale of the “Love & Logic” Trilogy: What’s in store for the final act of our three-part series?
3:24 — Wyseheart’s Big Pitch: Watch Waverly pitch her unique venture—think of it as Chicago Booth-quality coaching with a twist, aimed at empowering underrepresented entrepreneurs. It’s diversity with a dash of love and a pinch of logic.
10:45 — “Why It Matters for LBGTQ Entrepreneurs to Come Out”: In 2016, Waverly shared her insights on why it’s crucial for LGBTQ entrepreneurs to be visible on Chicago Booth Review. Fast forward to today, and discover why these discussions are more vital than ever.
15:20 — Addressing an Overlooked Age-related Challenge: Dive into Waverly’s perspective on ageism, a critical yet often ignored diversity and economics issue in both the workplace and the entrepreneurial world.
25:30 — The Origin of ‘Wyseheart’: Ever wondered where the name ‘Wyseheart’ came from? Uncover the story behind this heartfelt moniker.
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Ever had a mentor who changed your life, or maybe a coach who wasn’t just a coach but more of a life-saver?
This is Part 2 of a special three-part podcast series titled “Love and Logic.”
This Pride Month, we’re celebrating the spirit of championing our true identities with a special three-part podcast series titled “Love and Logic.” Waverly Deutsch, a proud member of the LGBTQ community and a staunch advocate for women entrepreneurs, navigates her multifaceted identity with aplomb— from a theater lover to PhD, from a STEM major to MBA professor, and from retiree to a baby boomer coaching venture builder.
Waverly, often compared to “the Simon Cowell of the Chicago Booth New Venture Challenge,” is celebrated not just for her straightforward feedback but for coupling it with practical, transformative advice. It’s this combination of tough love and insightful guidance that has influenced her approach to teaching and entrepreneurship at WyseHeart Advisory.
Episode Breakdown:
00:23 — Continuing the Journey in “Love & Logic”: Picking up where we left off last episode, what can listeners expect from this one and the next?
2:57 — Two Decades at Chicago Booth: “Undergrads bubble over with innovation, while executive MBAs might hold back on creativity,” Waverly observes. Explore how she navigates the diverse challenges faced by students at a top school, applying her signature blend of love and logic in teaching and coaching.
8:57 — Case Study in Compassion and Calculation: Meet Katlin Smith, who evolved Simple Mills from a fledgling startup in 2012 into one of 2023’s most innovative food companies, as named by Fast Company. How did Waverly’s guidance play a role?
NVC = New Venture Challenge
18:07 — Coaching a World of Entrepreneurs: Transitioning from academic halls to the entrepreneurial arena, Waverly discusses the unique advantages and challenges of coaching a broad spectrum of innovators.
23:48 — The Art of Active Listening: “Excellent listening skills are crucial for effective learning and connecting,” says Waverly. She shares insights on engaging with entrepreneurs from diverse backgrounds.
27:11 — AI and Human Coaching: The Love and Logic Mix: While AI excels in logic, crafting flawless pitch decks and resumes, Waverly emphasizes, “Building a business is about fostering human relationships. AI might set the stage, but it’s the human touch that builds real connections with investors and employers.”
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This is Part 1 of our three-part series "Love and Logic."
Waverly Deutsch joins us as our special guest to share how the dynamic interplay of passion and reason has shaped her career and life choices. This episode dives into Waverly’s captivating journey, with future episodes delving into her influential tenure at Chicago Booth and her latest venture, WyseHeart Advisory, which operates under the mantra of “tough love for entrepreneurs.”
Why Waverly?
Known as “the Simon Cowell of the Chicago Booth New Venture Challenge,” Waverly is celebrated for her straightforward feedback. Yet, unlike Cowell’s often blunt critiques, Waverly’s tough love always comes with a constructive twist. After telling someone, “You just talked for ten minutes and we have no idea what you do,” she’ll add, “and I want to work with you because there are three things we can do to fix it.” That’s the kind of coach and professor she is—direct yet deeply supportive.
Episode Breakdown:
00:56 — Introduction to “Love & Logic” Series: What sparked this series? What can listeners expect from this episode and the ones to follow?
3:46 — Exploring Identities: “My twin passions for theatre and logic have always driven me,” Waverly shares. Discover how these seemingly disparate interests have shaped her approach to teaching and coaching.
7:45 — Breaking Ground in STEM: Journey back to the early ’80s as Waverly recounts her experience as one of the four women in her computer science class, finding her tribe among like-minded ‘nerds.’
10:31 — Defying Gender Norms: Waverly reflects on her upbringing as a tomboy and challenges the traditional gender associations with love and logic. “These are human traits, not bound by gender,” she asserts.
12:41 — From Tech to Theatre: Why the dramatic shift from a computer science major to a Theatre PhD? Waverly explains, “I realized teaching is my calling.”
15:27 — A Serendipitous Detour: Joining Forrester Research early on and experiencing its growth to a public company—was it luck, destiny, or something else?
21:43 — The Art of Decision-Making: Waverly discusses how she navigates through career choices. “It’s about blending analysis with going with the flow,” she explains.
26:54 — Debunking Business Myths: “It’s a myth that business isn’t personal. At the end of the day, it’s all about people,” Waverly talks about the interplay of emotions in business.
34:44 — Filtering Out the Noise: How to deal with peer pressure and societal judgments? Waverly offers advice on building a supportive community and developing resilience, “so you can stand strong even when the world isn’t quite ready for you.”
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Let’s travel around the world in 40 minutes, shall we?
In this special episode, Vince Chan takes you on a global journey, meeting twelve incredible career change leaders. Their stories are packed with learnable insights and actionable lessons to help you master your own career transitions with resilience and intelligence.
Episode Breakdown:
• 2:30 — Tin Pei Ling (Singapore): From Psychology Major to Elected Parliamentarian: Facing Ageism, Sexism, and Social Media Attacks.
• 6:02 — Mary Shea (US and Mediafly): Oboe Musician to Revenue Enablement Expert: Sales as a Career Growth Equalizer.
• 9:31 — Katie Curry (US and Bulgaria): Small-Town Girl to Wall Street Professional: Determining Risk Tolerance in Career Changes.
• 13:31 — Irina Filippova (US and Russia): Russian Polyglot Diplomat to Energy Innovator in Cincinnati: I’m Not Wedded to a Specific Structure of Career.
• 17:27 — Fatou Sagna Sow (France and Senegal): From Parisian Glamour to Segenal Innovator: Is Career Change Just About Money?
• 21:23 — Juliana Schroeder (US and UC Berkeley): From Chicago Booth to Berkeley Haas: Enhancing Human Communication in the AI Era.
• 27:39 — Greg Morley (US and France): Complaint Handler Turned Moët Hennessy’s Change Leader: Everyone Should Be a Chief Change Officer.
• 30:11 — Josh Geballe (US and Yale): Yale Student Turned Yale Ventures Leader: Innovating at Yale is the Greatest Career.
• 33:05 — Ryota Tanozaki (Japan): Salesperson-Turned-Travel Tech CEO: How I Build an E-commerce Company in Japan.
• 35:17 — Steve Monaghan (Japan and Australia): Pilot-Turned-AI Investor and Banking Innovator: Why I Like and How I Thrive in Career Change.
• 39:03 — Michael Levitt (US): Heart Attack Survivor Turned Chief Burnout Officer: Buy an Alarm Clock, Ditch Your Smartphone.
• 42:18 — César Couto Ferreira (Portugal): Media and Entertainment Mogul Turned Legacy Architect: I Build People, not Products.
Join us for this enlightening 40-minute world tour and become your own Chief Change Officer.
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Can a philosopher's heart and a commercial executive's mind coexist for the greater good?
Ask César, a former DJ, MTV and Vice Media executive, and champion at the Web Summit in Lisbon.
When you're enveloped in a world of bubble-like glamour, man-made fame, grand titles, and substantial paychecks, it feels too comfortable to make even the slightest move. That's a push factor.
However, don't overlook the pull factor: a vision on the horizon, a voice that is uniquely yours, your own intellectual property, your legacy, your trademarks.
Career Change Master: César Couto Ferreira
César, now based in Porto, initially dazzled as a DJ and TV presenter before sculpting a prominent executive career at MTV Networks, a pillar of global youth entertainment within Viacom's portfolio. In the midst of the industry's pivotal shift from analog to digital media, he led the charge in launching operations across Portugal, Italy, and Greece, working alongside music legends such as MADONNA, COLDPLAY, R.E.M., and AMY WINEHOUSE. After his impactful tenure at MTV, César took the reins as General Manager at Vice Media in Portugal. He later took a creative leap from SABSEG to Brazil, where he co-founded Fabrica de Futuro, pioneering new frontiers in media.
Currently, César is involved in business development at olio.is and Streamhub, continuing to influence the changing media landscape.
Episode Breakdown:
1:49 — Turning Tables: From Biotech Major to DJ at 23: Finding my rhythm in radio.
3:34 — Dream Job Manifested: From MTV Enthusiast to Europe’s Youngest Programming Manager.
4:48 — MTV Odyssey: A 9-Year Tour from Portugal to Greece
6:21 — Rein in Digital Sovereignty: Creating and Owning Your Intellectual Property
8:50 — Moment of Clarity: Amy Winehouse's Death Inspires a Jerry Maguire Moment. Insights from a career-defining realization.
12:51 — The Illusion of Glamour: The Realities of Working in Media and Entertainment.
14:22 — Renaissance at the Web Summit: Fueling Portugal’s Legacy with Global Talent.
21:47 — Beyond the Hype: Reading Curiously in an Age of Social Media Noise.
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Would you call this bad luck or burnout—heart attack, job loss, car repossession, and home foreclosure, all happening to the same person in one year?
More than ten years ago, Michael found himself in exactly this catastrophic situation.
At that time, society was far less open about discussing burnout and its severe impacts on both individuals and companies. Facing these challenges head-on, Michael endured a heart attack induced by severe burnout—a modern-day epidemic equivalent to a heart attack in its sudden and profound impact.
Having survived these trials, he has now shifted gears to assist people, leaders, and organisations, both large and small.
Career Change Master: Michael D. Levitt
San Diego's Michael began his career in the aisles of a grocery store. He has since cultivated expertise in diverse areas, including accounting, finance, IT support and operations, business development, healthcare, and insurance.
Currently, Michael is the Chief Burnout Officer and Founder at Breakfast Leadership Network. Also, Michael hosts a Top 200 podcast . He is also the author of a book called Burnout Proof.
Episode Breakdown:
1:58 — Origin of 'Chief Burnout Officer': Inspired by a Shower
3:57 — Breaking Free from Burnout: Michael's Journey Through a Life-Threatening Crisis
10:55 — Burnout Unites Us: A Social Media Exchange Highlights Its Global Impact
15:03 — Conquering Stigma: Strategies for High-Achieving CEOs and Professionals to Overcome Burnout
21:15 — Turning Tides in Toxicity: A Success Story of Drastically Reducing Turnover
24:54 — Office Politics: Sometimes You Can't Force the Horse to Drink
29:17 — Victimhood in the Workplace: Understanding the Limits of Influence Over Those Who Resist Change
30:17 — Burnout in Transitions: Navigating Career Changes Without Getting Burned Out
35:12 — Self-Therapy Techniques: Identifying Early Signs of Burnout to Prevent Deeper Issues
38:36 — Simple Solutions: Why an Old-Fashioned Alarm Clock Might Be the Antidote to Burnout
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How Did a Commercial Pilot Rise to Global Finance in 30 Years?
Career Change Master: Steve Monaghan
A former commercial pilot, Tokyo-based Steve has navigated a transformative 30-year career across industries and continents. His financial acumen has revolutionized major banks and tech companies, propelling him from Australia to Tokyo and the Middle East.
Previous: Chairman & CEO of Gen.Life, Chief Innovation Officer at DBS Bank, Chief Digital Officer at Riyad Bank, Regional Director at AIA, General Manager of Individual Group at Shinsei Bank, Head of Consumer Finance at OCBC, VP of E-Commerce at Citi, and Product Manager at Dell and Compaq.
Currently, Steve holds positions as Independent Non-Executive Director at RAKBANK, General Partner at FinMir.ai, Limited Partner at True Global Ventures, and Investor in HolyWally, Human AI, and Pulse iD.
Episode Breakdown:
1:47 — Steve's odyssey: From aviation to tech titans and global banking
6:05 — Driving force: A thirst for learning
7:41 — Facing setbacks: Steve’s philosophy on learning from failure
10:19 — Outsider insight: Fueling innovation and change
11:12 — Steve's law of change: Turning 'No' into 'Now'
18:04 — The edge of age in the AI era
24:21 — A bold mission: Innovating real-time economy for social impact
28:12 — Championing mental wellness to support founders
36:04 — Building a balanced reading portfolio for continuous growth
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How Did Japanese Shochu Salespersons Rise to Lead the Tech Revolution for 90,000+ Japanese Hotel Operators?
Starting as a salesperson at Suntory, Tokyo-based Ryota Tanozaki has transformed his career over 20 years.
Previous: Strategy Consultant at BearingPoint, Product Manager at Hakuhodo Consulting, Director at Frontier Management, General Manager at Transcosmos, Head of Instagram, and Head of Vertical Industry at Facebook.
Currently, Ryota holds the position of President and CEO at Tabist, formerly known as OYO Japan, which is headquartered in India and was a joint venture with SoftBank Japan. He also teaches part-time at Globis University. Attached is the press release from SoftBank announcing the rebranding of OYO Japan to Tabist, with Ryota appointed as the CEO and President of the company's operations in the country.
How we met: Ryota and I were Executive MBA classmates at Chicago Booth from 2013 and 2015.
Episode Breakdown:
3:28 — Ryota's Odyssey: Journeying from Beverage Sales to Social Media and Cutting-Edge Travel Tech
6:30 — Pivotal Moments: How a Consulting Gig in Rural Japan Revolutionized Ryota’s Career Path
8:49 — A Strategic Pivot: Choosing an MBA at Chicago Booth After 15 Years in the Consulting Arena
14:30 — Navigating the Unforeseen: Adapting Ryota’s Career Strategy Amidst Challenges
16:07 — Crisis as a Catalyst: Steering Tabist Through a Rebrand as Japanese Tourism Faces COVID Challenges
20:12 — Tackling Top Challenges: Pushing Tabist to New Heights Amidst Adversity
25:32 — Leading by Example: Insights from Teaching at Globis University
27:09 — Inspiration Unpacked: The Two Books That Fuel Ryota’s Innovative Spirit
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Would you ever consider leaving a secure and high-ranking position as a CFO at IBM Europe to join a startup in Connecticut as merely the 16th employee?
Josh Geballe, took that exact leap, moving away from the corporate security he knew to embrace the thrills and challenges of a startup, guided by what he describes as his "gut feeling.”
A former campaign manager for the US Representative Rosa DeLauro, New Haven-based Josh has crafted a 30-year progressive journey centered on two main themes: impact and challenge.
Previously, he served as Vice President of Finance, Global Technology Services at IBM Europe, CEO of Core Informatics, Vice President and General Manager at Thermo Fisher Scientific, Chairman of the Board at CT Paid Leave, COO at the Office of the Governor in the State of Connecticut, and the Commissioner at the Connecticut Department of Administrative Services.
As the COO during Connecticut’s COVID-19 health response, Josh faced a public health crisis of unprecedented scale, the likes of which no MBA curriculum could ever anticipate or equip its students to handle. (press conf link).
Currently, Josh is the Managing Director at Yale Ventures, Senior Associate Provost for Entrepreneurship and Innovation at Yale University, Member of Boards at ClimateHaven, Connecticut Innovations, BioCT, AdvanceCT, and Guilford Savings Bank.
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Here's a billion-dollar question for you:
If you were a well-qualified legal counsel leading a global team of 50 and spearheading billion-dollar financial transactions at the world's largest banking groups, would you give all that up to deeply dive into building a developing economy in Africa?
Most people would say no, because humans are risk-averse by nature.
But Fatou Sagna Sow isn't most people. She is a change progressive.
Fatou, born and bred in Paris, has worked as a financial lawyer at Societe Generale and BNP Paribas. After a prestigious stint, she has returned to her roots in Senegal, Africa.
She moved her entire family—her husband and two children—from the glamorous and established life in Paris to the humble and untested grounds in Africa.
Her mother called her "crazy." The salary is a significant downgrade. What motivated her to make such a life-changing move? How did she plan for it? How did she execute it with faith, boldness, and consistency?
A former technical advisor to the President at The Economic, Social, and Environmental Council for Senegal, Fatou is currently the founder and CEO of New Deal Consulting. She is proud of driving economic well-being and technological growth in Senegal by empowering local youth alongside youth from France and other parts of Europe.
Episode Breakdown:
2:53 — Returning to Roots: From Parisian upbringing to embracing her African heritage in Senegal.
7:48 — Planning the Pivot: The extensive preparation behind a 360-degree transformative move to a new continent.
10:38 — Why Senegal? Three driving forces behind the decision for change.
14:19 — Political Circles: The journey of serving as a Technical Advisor to the President of Senegal and navigating the corridors of power.
18:38 — Confronting Challenges and Difficulties, but…
24:09 — Creating Magic with Project Nana: Transforming banana fiber into essential products for women.
26:48 — Global Connections: Strengthening Senegal’s ties with countries like Japan, France, Monaco, India, and Korea.
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Would you dare to found an unproven venture during the COVID-19 pandemic?
Yes, Irina Filippova bravely took that risk.
Born into a family deeply rooted in science in Russia, Irina showed a keen interest in diplomacy. This led her to study international relations and secure a promising early career position at the International Peace Institute. To further enhance her business skillset and mindset, she attended Yale MBA program.
Irina's true calling lay in the energy sector, prompting her move to BP in London. During her tenure there, she was involved in brand marketing, innovation, sustainability initiatives, and mergers and acquisitions. She also took on several prestigious roles: Senior Strategy Advisor at Kuwait Petroleum Corp., Executive Director at 2DegreesC in the UK, and Director of Investments at Venetos Management in Switzerland.
Currently based in Cincinnati, Irina’s drive for innovation has led her to the roles of COO and co-founder at Electrada LLC, funded by BlackRock Real Assets. Electrada collaborates with fleet operators to design and build 100% tailored EV charging solutions.
Episode Breakdown:
3:28 — Nuclear Scientist’s Daughter to Woman Diplomat
8:20 — The Self-Starter’s Edge: How curiosity fuels Irina’s career decisions.
12:40 — Career Flexibility: “I’m not wedded to a specific structure of career.”
14:54 — Strategic Career Opportunities: Bridging gaps and connecting dots.
18:55 — Defining Change Leadership at organizational levels.
22:10 — Passion About Energy Transition: Exploring the motivations behind her focus on energy solutions, the challenges she tackles, and her target beneficiaries.
27:55 — Challenging Assumptions: If clients relying on Irina’s solutions for fleet energy needs, what about the risks of counterparty and concentration?
32:45 — The Thrill of Entrepreneurship: “What excites me is also what scares me.”
36:55 — Career advice for MBAs: “Don’t feel entitled.”
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We’re back with the much-anticipated sequel in our series, where Mary delves deep into the transformative powers of AI in revolutionizing sales tech and boosting revenue like never before. Prepare for a deep dive into her top 5 predictions that are set to redefine the industry!
But wait, there’s more!
Ever wondered about the dynamics of sharing the helm? Mary opens up about her groundbreaking journey as a Co-CEO at Mediafly, offering a rare glimpse into the challenges and triumphs of dual leadership.
And, for a twist you didn’t see coming, Mary shares a book that has profoundly impacted her worldview on humanity. It’s a revelation that’s bound to intrigue and inspire.
Gear up for an episode packed with insight, innovation, and intrigue. Your next big idea might just be a play button away!
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Welcome to Chief Change Officer, where we skip the fancy frills and dive straight into what matters: real, raw stories of change. If you’re hunting for a podcast with all the bells and whistles, we might not be your jam. But if you crave something genuine, you've hit the jackpot.
Inclusive? Check. Season One lines up ten amazing speakers - a balanced mix of five gals and five guys aged 30 to 60, stretching from the US through Europe to Asia. They bring you stories from all corners of life: finance, hotels, DEI, politics, academia, and even energy.
Global? Absolutely. It’s like jet-setting without leaving your room, offering you views and vibes from around the world.
Credible? You bet. This is an invite-only party where I personally pick the guests. I've known them long enough to promise you're getting the straight dope, no fluff.
Authentic? For sure. Forget job titles; our guests are here because they've walked the walk. They’ve lived the changes they talk about and are actively shaping the future for others. Real talk from real changemakers.
Unbiased? 100%. No politics, no corporate buzzwords, and definitely no AI-made content. Just genuine stories from people who mean what they say.
If you’re ready for something different, something that celebrates change from all angles, join us. Let’s make your laws of change together.
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Host: Vince Chan
Chief Change Officer: Make Change Ambitiously.
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JFK famously stated, “Change is the Law of life.” Yet, there's no universal playbook for navigating change.
To maximize your greatness, “Make Your Laws of Change.”
This invite-only podcast goes beyond mere discussion. Here, change isn't just talked about—it's lived.
We gather change leaders, change-makers, and career changers from a wide array of cultures, professions, ages, and sexual orientations. Together, we delve into the complexities of effecting and maintaining change on both personal and organisational levels, blending real-world business insights with deeply personal narratives.
No political, corporate, or hard sales talk—only authentic human conversations.
Write your present and forge your future today—join our movement and follow us to start living the change you wish to see.
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Host: Vince Chan
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Chief Change Officer: Make Change Ambitiously.
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En liten tjänst av I'm With Friends. Finns även på engelska.