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Ep. 133: we?re joined by Paul Sampson, CEO and founder of Lickd, the licensing startup that supplies music to creators on YouTube and other platforms. We seem to be shifting into an era where a new and widespread use of music is emerging ? where music is a component of a wider experience: for instance in the background of short/long videos, live streams of gaming, or as part of users building interactive experiences - almost ?music as Lego?. We chat to Paul about the future of music usage and whether the current system of licensing is up to the task of recovering the correct money for music creators.
Creators of online content are eager to use recognisable hit songs in what they make. And Paul Samson has an interesting perspective on these creators needs ? whether they are zillion-streaming superstars like MrBeast, or more modestly-successful creators. So we ask him about what they actually want from music, and also how they view music in terms of its use and its value, when they are perhaps only using it as a component of something bigger that they?re piecing together. Plus we ask Paul about generative AI music ? and whether this could take a slice out of his business model.
Lickd: https://lickd.co
Tearing T-shirts: Most T-shirts worn and torn in one minute
Nirvana ? Nevermind: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hTWKbfoikeg&list=OLAK5uy_kEQJGO2SZ0k-vJ8b-F2AJLfKnw0cFydNg
Andrea Bocelli - Con Te Partirò - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nVUHHW1tJYA
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--- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/musically/messageEp. 132: Making vinyl records requires a lot of heat and energy, and uses plastics that are bad for the environment. But vinyl records are an old technology - so how might a modern record be made? Sven Deutschmann is Managing Director of Sonopress, a company that makes vinyl records and other physical media. He showed Music Ally?s Editor Joe Sparrow a new type of disc and spoke about a new process of making records that uses the same plastic used in plastic water bottles, and that uses significantly less energy ? and creates less waste.
It's called EcoRecord and is made by injection moulding, not pressing, and is produced using polyethylene terephthalate (PET) as its base material rather than polyvinyl chloride (PVC). They can also be produced using 100% recycled PET. Creating the discs requires neither natural gas nor steam, and Sonopress says its test operation saw energy savings of up to 85% compared to the traditional process. The product is being launched in collaboration with Warner Music.
Video of EcoRecord process https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C9Og3mDCeD8
Sonopress https://www.sonopress.de/en/
If you?re interested in finding out more about EcoRecord please contact: [email protected].
The Dark Side of the Moon: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k9ynZnEBtvw
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--- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/musically/messageEp 131: We have been puzzling over the impact of AI-generated music and how it will align with the laws that have made the music business, well, the music business. Eliane Ellbogen is an intellectual property lawyer at Fasken law firm in Montreal, and has spoken at a number of conferences about the legal implications that accompany AI Music. She joined Music Ally's Editor Joe Sparrow, who lobbed some (depending on your point of view) tricky and/or stupid legal questions at Eliane ? who answered them with patience and clarity.
For instance: can an AI author music? Can humans claim ownership of AI-generated music? What happens if an AI-created piece of music sounds very similar to your own human music? What laws might be used to regulate it all? Eliane gamely got to grips with them all.
Eliane and Fasken: https://www.fasken.com/en/eliane-ellbogen
Eliane at MUTEK: https://forum.mutek.org/en/shows/2023/workshop-art-ai-and-the-law---ip-for-digital-artists
Bach?s Goldberg Variations: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p4yAB37wG5s
Oneohtrix Point Never - Again: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kcCWAqoiSXI
Smashing watermelons: https://www.guinnessworldrecords.com/world-records/most-watermelons-smashed-with-a-punch-in-one-minute
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--- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/musically/messageEp. 130: Andrew Batey and Morgan Hayduk are both co-CEOs & co-founders of Beatdapp, a platform which processes huge quantities of data to detect streaming fraud for clients like labels and streaming platforms. Editor Joe Sparrow welcomes them back to the podcast to update us on the state of streaming fraud ? and they have some truly shocking statistics to share.
They chat to Joe about the recent changes in streaming fraud, what percentage of all streaming is actually fraudulent, how many billions of dollars will be siphoned out via fraud this year, and reveal a remarkable statistic: that 40%-60% of all streams from songs distributed via many well-known distributors are fraudulent.
(It?s worth noting we spoke before some DSPs announced changes to their payment thresholds, which will require songs to get a certain number of streams before payout.)
Beatdapp: https://beatdapp.com/dsps-otts
Garth Brooks - Standing Outside The Fire: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m-6Koisf7UI
2Pac - Changes: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eXvBjCO19QY
Ponytail / candles: https://www.guinnessworldrecords.com/world-records/most-candles-extinguished-with-a-pigtail-(platted-ponytail)-in-one-minute
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--- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/musically/messageEp. 129: Dan Stein, AKA DJ Fresh, and Declan McGlynn are co-founders of Voice-Swap, the AI-powered service that, as the name suggests, allows you to swap your singing voice for that of one of their chart-topping singers? voices. They chat to Music Ally?s Editor Joe Sparrow about why they think producers, artists and writers will want to use AI to transform their own voice to sound like one of their featured artists.
One of the difficulties that songwriters and songwriting producers face is using their own voice to sing lyrics on a track that is designed for someone else: perhaps their own voice is not very good, or perhaps it?s too hard to picture another artist performing the demo. This was a problem that Dan Stein, as DJ Fresh, faced ? and he and his founders are addressing this issue with the help of AI. Voice Swap allows people to sing something into their platform, and the resulting output will sound like one of the singers whose voices the AI has been trained on. Dan and Declan talk about their technology, and who will be interested in using it, and they also dig into some of the more complex concepts: like whether particular AI voices might become ubiquitous across pop music, and whether this will diminish or boost human creativity.
Voice Swap https://www.voice-swap.ai
Prince ? Sign O? The Times https://youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_nysBR93vc_I48usiCFTnMe6nKTB6YETjo&si=PCmbJ5wVyd2zvjSv
DJ Fresh ? Gold Dust https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RNuUgbUzM8U
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--- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/musically/messageEp. 128: We?re joined by Kris Ahrend, CEO of the Mechanical Licensing Collective. He gives us an overview of the state of mechanical licensing in 2023, the big issues from the MLC?s perspective, and the changes he?d like to see happen.
He also talks about data transparency, what he thinks artists and songwriters want (and what the MLC are doing to increase clarity for them); the recent Phonorecord III final determination; and what the streaming royalty space will look like in 5 years? time.
The MLC: https://www.themlc.com/
Phil Collins: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sRY1NG1P_kw
Smashing pumpkins: https://www.guinnessworldrecords.com/world-records/most-pumpkins-smashed-in-one-minute
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--- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/musically/messageEp. 127: In this special episode, Music Ally?s Head of Insight, Stuart Dredge talks to our Editor Joe Sparrow, and focuses squarely on AI and music in 2023 ? a topic that has caused so much excitement, confusion, innovation, and concern all at once.
Stuart breaks down the ambitions and possibilities ? as well as the ethical and legal issues ? that AI music is bringing to the music business:
? AI music is human music... for better or worse ? We often talk about AI as if it were sentient already - AI is doing this, AI is doing that... but actually it?s humans behind it all ? building these AIs, deciding what to train them on, and choosing whether to create music ethically... or not.
? A battle for control... and industry tensions ? The music industry has come together very quickly to set out its principles for how creative AI should be regulated: around permission, payment and transparency. But it?s not as simple as ?music against AI? ? there are new concepts that are being discussed around who gets to choose how music is used and by whom.
? AI is not just about pushing a button ? AI music is seen by some as profoundly uncreative: you hit a button and a song comes out - and it?s probably not very good. But that?s not actually the direction of travel: the latest wave of musical AIs are about prompting platforms into creating good snippets of music then human musicians using their creativity to turn them into better work.
?Johnny Cash? sings Barbie Girl ?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAFdzBTe2lg
Tach Teaches ? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=REqIJJLJbsc
Cathy Dennis? ?Toxic? demo ? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S7dk9DXFrwk
Skipping robots ? https://www.guinnessworldrecords.com/world-records/462433-most-skips-by-a-robot-in-one-minute
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--- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/musically/messageEp 126: in this episode Editor Joe Sparrow is joined by musician and music education facilitator Elizabeth J. Birch, and the CEO of UK charity Youth Music Matt Griffiths. They join us to talk about the experiences of disabled musicians in the UK music industry ? and the work done by Elizabeth and Youth Music to improve it. Elizabeth is a champion of accessible music-making, and shares her knowledge with aspiring young disabled musicians. She hopes for a day when the disabled community are not so overlooked in the music industry ? and Elizabeth has now been nominated for the Inspirational Music Leader award at this year?s Youth Music Awards for her work at Midlands Art Centre as a result of her work. She and Matt talk about their work, explain how the disabled community is still quite invisible in the UK music scene, and what can be done to improve things in the music industry ? including platforming more disabled people on and off the stage.
Youth Music Awards https://youthmusic.org.uk/awards
Youth Music https://youthmusic.org.uk
Elizabeth J Birch https://elizabethjbirch.bandcamp.com/
Lock picking https://www.guinnessworldrecords.com/world-records/97409-most-locks-picked-in-one-minute
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--- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/musically/messageEp 125: In this episode Stationhead co-founders, Murray Levison and Ryan Star speak to Editor Joe Sparrow about the platform?s role as a gathering place for superfans, and what fans are seeking in a platform that mixes music, community and commerce. Superfans are well know for their all-encompassing support of an artist, and their desire to form a community to celebrate them. Stationhead started out as a kind of live radio platform that would allow users to play music and talk around the songs, and has changed its path a little to become even more oriented around fandoms. Now, fans gather around stations to geek out about an artist?s music and chat about. them ? with some artists joining in on the broadcasts for things like release parties. Joe talked to Murray and Ryan ? who is also a successful artist in his own right ? about what fans want and what Stationhead is doing to give it to them.
Stationhead: https://www.stationhead.com
Stationhead ? Nicki Minaj fandom: https://www.stationhead.com/p/fandom/nicki-minaj-fans-stationhead
Ryan Star: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCKeFzpawPad05pLIP1NGFhA
God Only Knows https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NADx3-qRxek
Scratch Your Back: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8US2vvG4niA
Sgt Pepper?s Lonely Hearts Club Band https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VtXl8xAPAtA&list=PL3PhWT10BW3VDM5IcVodrdUpVIhU8f7Z-
Drumsticks https://youtu.be/4lJMjBU8fBM
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--- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/musically/messageEp. 124: in this episode we?re joined by Christine Barnum, CD Baby?s Chief Revenue Officer ? we?re talking about music streaming fraud, how the company tries to spot it, and what the fraudsters are doing to try to avoid being detected. Christine?s job is a form of fraud whack-a-mole: trying to spot suspicious streaming activity before paying rightsholders. We talk about her efforts in ?fraud, trust & safety? from the perspective of a distributor ? including how she defines streaming fraud, how difficult it is to spot, how widespread fraud really is ? and what a distributor does to stop it.
CD Baby: cdbaby.com
Jeff Buckley - Morning Theft youtube.com/watch?v=gxJI7hlPdnY
Mozart - Requiem youtube.com/watch?v=Dp2SJN4UiE4
Stamp licking guinnessworldrecords.com/world-records/most-stamps-licked-in-one-minute
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Ep. 123: Music Ally?s Editor Joe Sparrow chats to Cat Henry, executive director of the US-based nonprofit philanthropic organisation Live Music Society. Cat talks about the society?s mission, which it describes as ?to recognise and protect small venues and listening rooms across the United States so that live music can remain accessible to all.? Small venues can be one of the most enjoyable and valuable things that any local community possesses; a place where people can gather, enjoy music and grow their community. Small venues have been under the cosh in recent years: not only did the covid-19 lockdown punish them particularly hard, but a changing gigging environment, and large increases in costs has meant that, in 2023, running a small venue is hard work. Cat tells us about the state of the small venue community in the USA, the threats they and challenges they face, and why they are so important to the people who love them.
Live Music Society https://www.livemusicsociety.org/
Toolbox grant https://www.livemusicsociety.org/toolboxgrant
John Coltrane ? A Love Supreme ?youtube.com/playlist?list=PLGUJd_6WZDWv_YGv6b4kd1IJbaH_Z7bGP?
Cobbler Most fruit cobbler eaten in 30 seconds
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--- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/musically/messageEp 122: Alex Mubert, founder of the Mubert AI generative music platform talks to Editor Joe Sparrow about using AI to make music, the impact creative musical AI will have on rightsholders, and whether we will have to redefine what music itself is ? in an era where infinitely-long pieces of music can be tailor-made for each listener.
Most of us have come to terms with the fact that generating music with AI is now simply part of the music making landscape. Alex Mubert?s eponymous company was one of the early AI music platforms, and he has plenty of experience to lean on when answering our questions about how AI music will change things. He believes for instance, that mass adoption of generative music as a creative tool will be through video content creators ? who may be keen to "co-create" music for their videos with an AI trained on their favourite artist ? and he talks about how the integration of AI music into streaming platfroms could change how much money is paid out to human creators.
Mubert: https://mubert.com
RATM: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWXazVhlyxQ
Mustard: https://www.guinnessworldrecords.com/world-records/503372-most-mustard-bottle-drunk-in-30-seconds
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--- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/musically/messageEp. 121: We speak to two people from TikTok who have helped turn classical music into viral content. TikTok has captured the attention of people in every area of the music industry, who now look to the short-video app for A&R, marketing, music discovery, audience-building and fan-nurturing. Darina Connolly, Head of Artist & Label Partnerships, talks about TikTok?s direction and strategy, and she?s joined by Label Partnerships Manager Lisa Skeppner, who is one of the go-to TikTok people when it comes to classical music. Music Ally's Editor Joe Sparrow asks them what it is about classical music that holds users? attentions ? is it the song, the performance, the context of the song?s use, or the artists themselves? And what can non-classical artists learn for how they use TikTok?
We talk to Darina and Lisa about how classical music has connected on TikTok, and the impact on classical artists ? and also they talk more widely about what it means for users to be discovering new ?old" music this way ? and what the longer-term impacts of that are beyond short-term spikes in attention around novel genres.
TikTok Artist Handbook: newsroom.tiktok.com/en-gb/uk-artist-handbook-supporting-artists-to-get-the-most-out-of-tiktok
Sade - No Ordinary Love: youtube.com/watch?v=_WcWHZc8s2I
ABBA ? Gimme Gimme Gimme: youtube.com/watch?v=XEjLoHdbVeE
Peas: Most peas eaten using a cocktail stick in 30 seconds
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--- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/musically/messageEp 120: We're joined by Piers Henwood, a Grammy and Juno-nominated artist manager and musician. Artists today are under increasing pressure to do, well, lots of stuff: write, record and release music, create TikToks, collaborate, communicate with fans, go on tours, and so much more. A while ago, Piers wrote a guest post on Music Ally about ?the implications of the pressure placed on artists to succeed in a needy industry and an always-on culture? ? so we wanted to talk to him more deeply about the relationship between fans and artists, and the pressures that artists experience. Henwood says it?s time we take another look at who the customer is in this system, and help artists retreat from the always-on approach. Music Ally Editor Joe Sparrow chatted to him about what a healthy and sustainable creative existence is for the people who, ultimately, are at the centre of everything we love about music.
Piers' guest post on Music Ally: musically.com/2023/05/09/reclaiming-fame-as-an-artist-whos-your-customer-guest-post
Harry Belafonte - Calypso: youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_nL5Xd_KkpM0wzk08xIw2mksZvS7ze9JZo
Piers Henwood: piershenwood.com
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--- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/musically/messageEp 119: Every time our Head of Insight appears on the podcast, people say how useful they find his analysis ? so we're bringing Stuart Dredge back again to answer a thorny question: ?is music streaming like radio??. Stuart explains why this simple-sounding question is actually quite complex and how it could raise a number of fundamental legal issues around payments to artists and rightsholders.
Streaming platforms have always provided radio-like experiences: whether something simple like "lean back" listening ? where you hit play and the platform chooses what music you hear ? or more overt concepts like Spotify's new AI DJ, creating what is a recognisable personalised radio-like experience. So at what point should streaming music be classed as "radio"? Moreover, streaming services want to compete with regular radio, to attract its listeners and advertisers. What does it mean, then, if streaming and radio's boundaries are blurring? Editor Joe Sparrow puts these questions, and more, to Stuart.
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--- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/musically/messageEp. 118: In the latest Focus podcast episode we?re joined by Keatly Haldeman of the blockchain music sync licensing platform Dequency. Attention has moved away from web3 tech and shifted via the metaverse to AI; so we thought it was time to check in and see how web3 tech has progressed away from the pressure of all that hype. Keatly still thinks that web3 and blockchain tech will transform the music industry, and we talk to him about what he thinks the long term impact of web3, crypto, and blockchain tech will be on the music business now that it?s on the gentle upwards slope of the hype cycle, and how Dequency is, he believes, a good example of aligning the needs of artists, content creators, and blockchain technology.
Sublime ? 40oz. To Freedom: youtube.com/watch?v=FQJXu56fJPM&list=OLAK5uy_mts5eCCpftF-EbhwYr4f3geuQVnG6vT9s&index=2
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Artists have become increasingly vocal about one particular reality of touring, namely some venues asking for 25% (plus tax) of all the merch they sell. The FAC has decided to campaign against this via its 100% Venues campaign, which is a public database of UK and North American venues that charge zero commission on artists' merchandise sales. David also talks about the needs of emerging artists who are hitting the cusp of success ? and why the FAC is injecting cash and connections at what they see as the turning point in their careers.
The FAC's Step Up fund: thefac.org/stepup
100% Venue Directory: thefac.org/venuedirectory
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--- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/musically/messageEp 116: Music Ally Editor Joe Sparrow is joined by A Greener Future CEO and cofounder Claire O?Neill. AGF created the world?s first event sustainability standards and now offers consultancy, training, certification and membership to the events industry. We talk to her about how live events can become greener and more sustainable ? and how there?s a lot more to it that simply cutting down on carbon emissions.
The events industry is a part of the music industry that can stand to make some sweeping changes to run it in a more sustainable manner. Events and festivals require moving huge amounts of people and equipment and consume a lot of resources ? often in the form of non-renewable fuel. Punters, artists, and industry workers increasingly want to be taking part in events that are not damaging the planet. And yet events are complicated, and have many stakeholders. So how do you do it? Claire O?Neill and A Greener Future say that they help you find the path through to? well, a greener future.
AGF: agreenerfuture.com
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Ep. 115: We?re joined by Cliff Fluet ? someone who has worked with, or advised, music-related AI platforms for a decade. He talks to Music Ally Editor Joe Sparrow about the bigger-picture possibilities and repercussions that AI could have on the music industry ? he calls it "the most consequential tool the music industry could use" and one that "could solve a number of its biggest challenges," including real-time music detection, metadata, and personalised discovery.
Cliff is a man with a lot on his plate ? he?s Joint Head of Media & Entertainment at law firm Lewis Silkin, is MD at Eleven Advisory, is Chair of the Ivors Academy Trust, and is Vice Chair of Help Musicians. He?s also got deep experience working with companies in the AI music space ? advising on all the various legal and business considerations that inevitably crop up when the music industry and AI come together. We took the chance to talk to someone who knows his AI onions and move the conversation along a bit from the basic legal implications. We asked him whether the music business is really prepared for the impact of AI, and we also picked his brains to discover some of the applications of AI in the music industry that you might not have yet considered.
Cliff Fluet on LinkedIn linkedin.com/in/clifffluet
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--- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/musically/messageEp. 114: In this special episode we?re checking in on The Music Business Academy (MBA) for Africa ? a training program geared towards developing the next generation of music industry executives in Africa. It?s developed by Creative Industries Initiative For Africa in partnership with Music Ally and Dr. Carlos Chirinos of the Music Business Department at the New York University. Having been involved with the MBA for Africa for a few years now, we thought it would be great to speak to some of the staff ? some of whom are alumni of the programme ? to check in on how education is meeting the needs of the music industry in west Africa.
So we speak to Kini-Abasi Edet, Head of Operations, Pokyes Jan, Head Of Administration, and Nissi Utho, Project Manager. (We?d also like to thank Okoro Frances, who?s Head of A&R, for taking part too ? but unfortunately a technical gremlin meant that this recording was not usable.)
Anyway - we got some great insight on the kind of skills the local music industry needs, and how the global attention on West African music is helping the local industry to develop the next generation of artists and industry professionals.
MBA For Africa: https://mbaforafrica.com/
MBA for Africa on Music Ally: https://musically.com/2022/04/11/music-business-academy-for-africa-returns-for-second-year/
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Episode 113: we?re joined by Shain Shapiro, PhD ? a music and cultural policy thinker whose work focuses on the idea of music cities. Shain's upcoming new book This Must Be The Place introduces and examines music?s relationship to cities. Not the influence cities have on music, but the powerful impact music can have on how cities are developed, built, managed and governed. It?s a fascinating concept: the way that music can be used to shape culture around us and the relationship with the people and places that we live in. We ask him what music cities are, and how music intersects with a city?s cultural and political policy.
https://www.shainshapiro.com/book
Remain in Light: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_ldZpfPljmwhO4m7Eu8HUTylyh1uHT4wyY
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--- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/musically/messageEpisode 112: In this episode we?re joined by two people from Splice, the music-making platform and sample library: CEO Kakul Srivistava and Mark Thomas, Splice's VP of sounds. Sampling has been used by musicians for decades as a way to create music, and finding the right sounds and snippets of music is a complex and time consuming task.
We talk about music creation in the 2023 environment when everyone is making music, how important samples are to the creative process, what the impact is for musicians if platforms make finding samples a one-click affair, and how AI is being used to help producers find samples better. Splice, like a lot of music businesses, has also been embracing AI, and has just launched the public beta version of an AI-powered tool that assembles bunches of samples that fit together.
Both guests have a rich history in creative technology businesses: Kakul was previously Vice President of Creative Cloud Experience and Engagement at Adobe and the Vice President of Product & Marketing at GitHub, and Mark is a musician who became CTO at AWAL, and founder of platform BuzzDeck, before spending a decade at Apple Services. I spoke to Kakul and Mark about the needs of musicians today and the impact of technology in helping them create the music we love.
https://splice.com/blog/coso-breakthrough-ai-tech/
Mark: Kenny Wheeler ? Music for Small and Large Ensembles
Kakul: Stevie Wonder ? Innervisions
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Episode 111: in this episode we?re joined by Rebecca Berman, SVP of International at Concord, a large independent company that operates in music publishing, a label, and in acquisition ? and which has artists and repertoires licensed all over the world. We talk to Rebecca about how she and Concord views the potential in exploding markets like Sub-Saharan Africa and Latin America. Her job involves building a local teams to support Concord Label Group?s repertoire around the globe, so she has an interesting view on the fast-growing, high-potential markets ? like sub-Saharan Africa and Latin America. We spoke to her about what the wider consequences of these rapidly-growing markets might be on the wider music business, and how the established music industry might change in terms of structure, strategy, and revenue.
?Concord?: concord.com
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Episode 110: We speak to Ines Dunn, a young songwriter from London, who has writing credits in songs like Maisie Peters? ?Not Another Rockstar?, and is one of the first songwriters to be featured by Spotify?s RADAR programme. One of the biggest fillips an artist?s career can receive is by being part of one of the major streaming platforms? artist programmes ? which at its most flashy, can result in your face being plastered across a billboard in Leicester Square in London. That?s what happened to Ines Dunn, and so we spoke to her about her nascent career, how she ended up on Spotify?s RADAR programme, and what the tangible benefits are of getting high-profile support like this, and what she sees as the benefits for DSPs in offering these kind of programmes.
Written by Ines Dunn playlist: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/37i9dQZF1EFLbEbClSreiP
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Episode 109: Music Ally?s Head of Insight, Stuart Dredge chats in depth with Joe Sparrow about the big picture issues that music streaming platforms, its users and economy will need to face this year. We?ve just published our latest Quarterly Report which comprehensively breaks down each of the big global DSPs in a ?Report Card? format ? and to accompany it, Stu forecasts what might happen around various key topics:
The Transition from ?music? to ?audio? ? music streaming services are becoming audio streaming services. Music is competing with other kinds of audio, be that podcasts or white noise, so what does that mean in terms of royalties and ear-share? Price rises ? for users and for artists ? there?s pressure from the music industry to raise the prices of streaming subscriptions: will adding a dollar or two does lead to a mass of cancellations or not? Can ? or should ? the pie be grown? And what about changing the whole system of payment from pro-rata to something else? Direct artist support ? DSPs are providing other ways to support artists: buying merch, buying tickets, and subscriptions are appearing more widely on streaming apps. And how do artists feel about introducing tipping to DSPs? User interfaces and AI ? DSPs are introducing many new ways to interact with, and discover music, from TikTok-like feeds to AI DJs. So is the next leap for music discovery going to be conversations with AIs? The mid tier DSPs (and remember web3?) ? Deezer, SoundCloud, Tidal and Napster have all positioned themselves as disruptors in different ways. They're nimbler than the big DSPs and can experiment with novel ideas like web3 music ? but what are the long-term prospects for these services?Music Ally?s Quarterly Report: https://musically.com/category/reports/
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--- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/musically/messageEpisode 108: in this episode we?re joined by Adam Webb, from FanFair Alliance - a UK-based organisation campaigning against industrial-scale online ticket touting- or scalping if you prefer. I chatted to Adam about the state of ticketing in the UK, and what does FA see as the most pertinent issue that needs fixing/changing? He also talks about speculative ticketing is, why he thinks it?s harmful, and what should be done, and the difference in approach between artists in the UK and the US when it comes to dynamically priced tickets.
Supported by managers and teams for artists including Arctic Monkeys, Ed Sheeran, Biffy Clyro, Pixies, Iron Maiden, George Ezra, PJ Harvey, Niall Horan and many others, FanFair, it says, ?has successfully helped change the regulatory and legislative landscape in the UK, leading to the widespread adoption of consumer-friendly practices for ticket resale.?
FanFair Alliance: fanfairalliance.org
Adam?s guest post on dynamic pricing for Music Ally: https://musically.com/2022/03/13/is-dynamic-pricing-containing-the-battle-against-ticket-touting-or-undermining-it-guest-column/
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Pet Sounds: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mJN3N2XYKY6P2RpKP_-Zk20HwDSewNAYY
--- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/musically/messageEpisode 107: We?re joined by Pamela McCormick and Dr Anne-Marie Imafidon MBE of London-based organisation United Development ? they talk to Joe Sparrow about supporting and developing young black musicians and industry talent, the state of representation in the UK industry, and what you can do to help make gradual improvements around representation in the music business. Pamela McCormick is founder and CEO of United Development (UD), and Dr Anne-Marie Imafidon MBE, was recently appointed chair. UD brings communities together around Black music and Black music culture. For 20 years, UD has acted as a bridge between burgeoning talent and the music industry, through business and employment support programmes, career guidance, access to resources and showcasing, and more. They explain the issues that the young people they work with face, the hurdles that are "baked-in? to the current industry structure, explain how to build intentional change into your business, and how to disrupt the ?pipeline issue? that goes hand in hand with a lack of representation in the music industry.
UD website: https://www.udmusic.org/
Dr Anne-Marie Imafidon MBE: https://aimafidon.com/
UD Industry takeover event: https://www.complex.com/music/ud-industry-takeover-2023
UD on BBC Radio 4: https://www.udmusic.org/blog/artists/ud-x-bbc-radio-4/
Chronixx - COOL AS THE BREEZE/FRIDAY: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qsCV2LBoAG0
Miles Davis ? Kind of Blue https://youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_nkfBmwK2t62J1xAsfhcwj9PVQG7N5UunA
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--- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/musically/messageEpisode 106: Joe Sparrow talks to two UK music entrepreneurs who have grown a substantial and influential business from the ground up. TK and SK, co-founders of London-based independent record label and management company Finesse Foreva, which is home to artists/producers including Russ Millions, Skengdo & AM, and JB Made It. The company has received multiple Platinum certifications, worked with Drake, and had the UK?s first number one single for a Drill (or, for international listeners, a "UK Drill") track. We talked about how Drill has grown to national and international popularity, how it was demonised in the UK press, how the genre and the scene around it has grown into a big industry through the age-old combination of hard work, ambition and talent ? and how they are working hard to share skills and educate a new generation of music business entrepreneurs as part of Finesse Foreva?s wider social focus.
Foreva: https://www.finesseforeva.co.uk/
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Episode 105: For a man whose name is rhyming slang in the UK for something going wrong, most of what Pete Tong touches goes very right. He?s been enormously influential in the international electronic music scene for four decades: as a broadcaster, a jet-setting DJ who has released dozens of mix albums, at the influential FFRR and Three Six Zero labels, and now, as co-founder of the International Music Summit. We invited Pete onto the podcast to talk about A&R in the dance music world: how it has changed, how it works now, the role that good taste plays, the challenges of keeping up with the TikTok whirlwind, his thoughts on modern artistry and fandom, and what he thinks about the use of AI in future A&R approaches.
https://www.internationalmusicsummit.com/summit-schedule
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--- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/musically/messageEpisode 104: A Very Special Episode this week: We?ve wanted to make our daily Bulletin newsletter into a podcast for a long time, and now, we?ve created one ? with the help of a text-to-voice AI. We're now sharing it here, so that you can hear the results too. The AI twist is that we have cloned the voice of our Learning Operations Manager, Sarah Seukeran, and it?s ?her? that you?ll hear on the Bulletin podcast. It was soft-launched a few weeks ago ? and we think the Bulletin translates really well into a sub-10 minute audio round up. In our opinion, it's an impressive confirmation of the technology's potential.
So we'd love to hear what you think ? does it sound good to you? Would you be interested in a daily (or weekly?) audio version of our News output? (In the future, this AI-powered podcast may become part of Music Ally's subscription offering.) Please do let us know all and any feedback: email our editor Joe Sparrow on [email protected].
Here's the Music Ally Bulletin podcast on Spotify, if you'd like to follow it: https://open.spotify.com/show/6tXXBfONkdUIkSIFT8TgGF?si=74e45d0ef2274438
PS: Note that the AI origins of this audio means that there may be some very occasional mispronunciations or speech glitches ? this is still in a beta phase of testing!
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--- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/musically/messageEpisode 103: Laura Kidd has been a fully independent artist for a long time ? and her recent "Obey Robots" project managed to hit the UK albums chart at #14 (ahead of Artic Monkeys and Lewis Capaldi and just behind ABBA and Fleetwood Mac). It?s a hugely impressive achievement for a DIY/indie artist - so how did she do it? In this podcast she explains to Joe Sparrow how she used email, YouTube videos and Facebook ads to get chart success. She also talks about her deliberate choice to ignore fame, and how she instead looked to build a slow-burn, direct-to-fan ?nano-community" that supports her work ? and this is what she now considers ?success.? Laura also explains why someone who is not concerned with the traditional concept of success decided to aim for chart success, how being completely DIY is a ?terrifying? concept, how it can be hard to let go of the reins, and how she now considers herself a 'community artist?.It?s a fascinating conversation for anyone working in music marketing ? and especially for DIY artists looking to cut through.
The Obey Robots project: https://shop.penfriend.rocks/collections/obey-robots
Laura's Penfriend YouTube channel: https://youtube.com/penfriendrocks
Music choice: Kid A by Radiohead
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--- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/musically/messageEpisode 102: we?re joined by Sarah Woods, the Deputy Chief Executive of UK charity Help Musicians, a UK charity that offers career help for musicians in the form of a number of services, including financial support. She talks to Music Ally?s Editor Joe Sparrow about what she calls ?reverse globalisation? of the music industry: a situation where UK artists become confined to touring in the UK due to it becoming increasingly hard to tour abroad.Post-Brexit, touring the rest of Europe is now a complex affair, involving visas and carnets, and accompanying rising costs. As a result, some musicians have been looking to America - and are finding complications there too, with the US planning to raise touring visa fees for foreign acts by more than 250%. We spoke to Sarah about this ?reverse globalisation? and she shared some data that shows where applicants to Help Musicians? services most need help around touring, and what the impacts will mean for artists as they seek to expand their audience at home and abroad.
Help Musicians: helpmusicians.org.uk
Visa advice for touring artists: helpmusicians.org.uk/get-support/develop-as-a-musician/advice/visa-advice-service
The Cure ? ?Disintegration?
Jacqueline du Pre & Daniel Barenboim - Elgar Cello Concerto
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Episode 101: We talk to Andy Robinson, of Boutique rights management company Interstellar Music Services. In the modern music business paradigm, managers can do everything ? so we?ll discuss how you can not do everything ? and avoid burnout whilst providing the best service possible to artists. He talks about making tough choices, transparent conversations with artists, and how he regularly finds hundreds of thousands of streams that artists have not been paid for.
Andy has a background in artist management and now focuses on helping artists recover as much of the money as possible from their music via a data-centric approach. He took this specific path after he realised that it was his strength ? so we wanted to ask Andy one of those slippery questions that all managers must ask themselves: with almost infinite number of ways to connect with the music industry now, how do you focus on the things that will work well for you and your artist? And perhaps more importantly, how do you choose what not to do?
Andy and Interstella: https://www.interstellarmusic.com
Music pick: Santana?s ?Santana?
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? Music Ally Focus Ep. 100 ? ? We talk about about Neurodiversity in the electronic music business with Finlay Johnson, interim CEO of the Association for Electronic Music (AFEM) and Tristan Hunt, who is an ADHD coach for musicians and people working in the music business, and is also an ex-regional manager at the AFEM.
There is increasing awareness about neurodiversity, and more people are being diagnosed with conditions like ADHD at later stages in life. Last year, the AFEM surveyed people in the electronic music industry to learn more about the neurodiversity of the people working in it. They discovered that 58% of these participants demonstrated a neurodiverse condition, although only 38% currently have a clinical diagnosis. Finlay and Tristan discuss how the same creativity that results in innovative music can also be accompanied by neurodiversity; how the electronic music industry, with its inherent late nights and party atmosphere can exacerbate existing issues; and what people working in the music industry can do to support colleagues with neurodiverse conditions.
AFEM: https://associationforelectronicmusic.org
AFEM Neurodiversity report: https://www.billboard.com/pro/neurodiverse-electronic-music-study-analysis/
Tristan: https://www.tristanhunt.co.uk
Finlay: https://www.linkedin.com/in/finlay-johnson-77b3936b
ADDitude magazine: https://www.additudemag.com/
Music choices:
Finlay: Four Tet ? Rounds
Tristan: Paul Simon ? Graceland
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--- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/musically/messageMusic Ally Focus Ep. 99: Successful songwriter Niclas Molinder co-founded the music credits ecosystem Session along with two other Swedish songwriters, Max Martin and Bjorn Ulvaeus in 2019. Music Ally's editor Joe Sparrow asks him about what he?s doing to make sure that as much new music as possible has all the correct credits and metadata baked in from the start ? and ask him why getting music metadata straightened out is taking so long.
Session aims to attach complete metadata is attached to all recordings and songs at the point of creation. Niclas has written and produced for artists such as Miley Cyrus, Lady Gaga, Mary J Blige and The Jonas Brothers. Niclas also talks about the challenges that companies who have spent fortunes buying catalogues of decades-old songs ? often with patchy metadata ? can go about uncovering and attaching the correct credits to their catalogue of music.
Session: https://www.session.id
Niclas' music choices:
Sting ? They Dance Alone (Cueca Solo) youtu.be/MS_bN5ECJTI
Monica Zetterlund ? Waltz For Debbie
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--- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/musically/messageMusic Ally Focus Ep. 98: This episode is for anyone interested in building a long, sustainable career as a musician. We're joined by Keith Jopling, of the Art of Longevity podcast, in which he talks to notable musicians - like, for instance Suzanne Vega, Nile Rodgers, Gary Numan and Norah Jones ? about their careers in music and how they kept them going for so long. We ask him what he?s learned, what patterns there are in long-term success, and how you can use this information.
Keith Jopling has also just published a white paper called ?Crossing the Rubicon? (link below), which charts the careers of many of the artists he's spoken to, and attempts to find out if there is a common artist career paths, how important big hits are, and whether classic albums still exist - or are even important? Keith breaks down a few different career examples, including that of Norah Jones, Suede, Teenage Fanclub, Suzanne Vega, and more ? and gives us the big, actionable takeaways for you to use in your own work.
The Art of Longevity podcast: songsommelier.com
Download "Crossing The Rubicon" here: songsommelier.com/crossing-the-rubicon
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--- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/musically/messageMusic Ally Focus Ep. 97: ?It was sampling that revitalised ? and continues the life of ? a lot of music that we would never have otherwise heard? it deserves a lot more credit than it gets?
Sampling has been the backbone of a number of modern music styles, from house to hip hop. Deborah Mannis-Gardner of DMG Clearances has just helped pull off something that many thought may never happen: getting the many samples on De La Soul?s groundbreaking albums cleared so that they can finally appear on streaming services. She's also cleared samples for Wu Tang Clan, Drake, Beyoncé, Kendrick Lamar, Common, Eminem, and the groundbreaking musical Hamilton. We ask her how she gets the right people to say "yes" to letting other artists use bits of their songs.
After De La Soul's master recordings were acquired by Reservoir, Deborah was brought in to clear every sample on their classic albums. She explains to us what the hurdles are when you approach an artist with a sample clearance request; how she sleeps with her phone in case one of her high-profile clients decides to check if they can sample something at a late hour in the studio; and how she doesn't see the desire for artists to use samples going away any time soon.
DMG Clearances dmgclearances.com
Kendrick Lamar - To Pimp A Butterfly
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--- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/musically/messageMusic Ally Focus Ep. 96: Artists have been increasingly vocal about the pressures of the music industry and the impact on their mental health. And it?s not just artists: everyone can experience unique stresses in the industry. In this episode, Joe Sparrow talks to Adam Ficek and Jeordie Shenton of UK charity Tonic Rider about what they are doing to provide music industry-specific support.
Music industry pressures are unique: job security can be shaky, and there can be endless late nights ? not to mention the sex and drugs and rock ?n? roll. Meanwhile, the idea of the ?tortured artist? is normalised, and those artists are then put on a pedestal.
UK charity Tonic Rider provides resources to encourage good mental health in the music business, through regular support groups, learning sessions, workshops, and training courses. Adam and Jeordie explain what stresses that artists and music business professionals tell them that they are feeling, what the Tonic Rider can do for you and your business, and how regular support groups with other people in the business who really understand its unique mix of pressures can be hugely helpful.
Tonic Rider: tonicmusic.co.uk/tonic-rider
Contact Tonic Rider: [email protected]
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--- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/musically/messageMusic Ally Focus Ep. 95: Time is flying and we?re now one month into 2023, so we asked Music Ally's Head of Insight, Stuart Dredge, to flex his insight muscles and speculate on what might happen in the rest of the year. We analyse some of the biggest issues in the music business:
The recent comments made by UMG?s Lucian Grainge about how income from streaming should be shared Job cuts in music tech, including Spotify?s recent layoffs; Is streaming an affordable luxury that people will not cancel? Are gig tickets a luxury that people will skip to save cash? What about TikTok and how music generates money from non-streaming platforms Fairness for artists ? what can artists do to make more money and take more control?This discussion is extra-long ? a whole hour! ? and was recorded as a companion piece to Music Ally?s latest Quarterly Report ? there?s a link below for Music Ally subscribers.
Music Ally's "Looking ahead to 2023" Quarterly Report: https://musically.com/2023/02/09/music-ally-quarterly-report-looking-ahead-to-2023
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--- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/musically/messageMusic Ally Focus Ep. 94: Dr. Jennifer Otter Bickerdike is a rock ?n? roll cultural historian and author, who recently wrote the critically acclaimed and best-selling books You Are Beautiful and You Are Alone: The Biography of Nico and Being Britney: Pieces of a Modern Icon. We spoke to her about the pressures placed on music stars, including burnout, overwork, and (social-) media stress ? with Britney as a central example, but also leaning on knowledge from Jen?s past work in the music industry history. She worked in senior positions at Interscope and with artists like Nirvana, Pearl Jam, Rage Against the Machine, Dr. Dre, Gwen Stefani, U2, and Eminem ? before she left to start a new life in the UK. Amongst other things she?s co-founder of Moving the Needle, a nonprofit organization that supports women in the UK music industry through their careers. She spoke to Music Ally's Joe Sparrow about how we can create a better space for artists to produce the music we love. There's also an eye-opening anecdote about a clown, and much more Phil Collins than this podcast is usually comfortable with.
Dr. Jennifer Otter Bickerdike: jenniferotterbickerdike.com
Jen?s podcast: jenniferotterbickerdike.com/podcast
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--- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/musically/messageMusic Ally Focus Ep. 93: What does a music publication need to be in 2023? We talk a lot on the podcast about marketing from the artist-side: getting projects to launch and connecting to as many people as possible. But what about the point after that - when music fans debate and discuss music ? and explore and discover music they don?t know that they don?t know? Sean Adams, of Drowned in Sound, explains how he?s going to build a modern music publication.
Drowned in Sound was one of the UK?s earliest music blogs back in 2000, and it then became one of the UK?s leading music publications, growing into a successful record label, an early podcast, and also live shows on the way. Having ?paused? Drowned in Sound for a few years, Adams is bringing the publication back - but in a format that connects with the needs of music fans in a 2023 environment. So what is the mix of content, platforms, and community that music fans need now if they want a jumping-off point that is more contextual and community-driven than a playlist? Sean explains his plans.
Drowned in Sound?s new podcast: https://open.spotify.com/episode/6hdFH47LWFXxL1Jdp9QqYK?si=20a4bf26d94946aa
Announcing DiS?s relaunch: https://twitter.com/seaninsound/status/1614909932184141824
Sean?s music pick: Warszawa: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r7kg5hq1eCc
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--- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/musically/messageMusic Ally Focus Ep. 92: We?re joined by Annabella Coldrick, Chief Executive of the Music Managers Forum to talk about the new realities of touring in the post-covid world. The Music Managers Forum recently held a round-table event with its members and it revealed a lot of concerns and issues around touring. Artists are now facing a completely different touring environment: where a transformed economy means that touring is no longer the sturdy income source it was once considered, and artists are cancelling shows due to the lack of economic viability or as a result of mental health issues from the increased pressures around performing. We ask Coldrick what touring in 2023 is going to look like for her members and the artists they work with, and what they think the future holds.
Links mentioned in the show:
MMF (Music Managers Forum) ? themmf.net
FAC 100% venues campaign - thefac.org/venuedirectory
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--- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/musically/messageMusic Ally Focus Ep. 91: WTF is "web3 music"? In this episode we?re joined by Dan Fowler, Director of Open Source Projects at web3 music incubator HIFI Labs, and a man with deep experience working at where crypto, web3 and music meet. Joe Sparrow asks Dan the stupid questions so that we can all find out what web3 music is, and what it will mean for the music industry.
Most of us now have a surface understanding of NFTs and web3 stuff, but what is it exactly that classes a song as ?web3 Music?, what does a web3 music industry look like, and how is web3 music different to the music we are used to? Dan ? who has worked on blockchain music projects for Jaak, ICE, PRS For Music, and now HIFI Labs ? gamely agreed to explain what it all means, how bit works, and who can use it to good effect.
HIFI Labs: hifilabs.co ? or join their Discord here: discord.gg/bqVs89D44M
Dan Fowler is on Twitter ? @dan_djfnd ? and on Substack: danfowler.substack.com
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--- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/musically/messageMusic Ally Focus Ep. 90: This episode, just like the Wu-Tang Clan, is for the children. Or rather, the parents of those children: we?re joined by the founders of Parenthood In Music, which aims to improve working conditions for parents in the music industry. Parenthood, they believe, remains one of the main drivers of inequality in the workplace. We find out why, and what changes they?re hoping to make.
Parenthood In Music is an initiative founded by Steffi von Kannemann (founder of the agency Better Things) and Marit Posch (General Manager IDOL Germany/ Co-founder of Hyper Culture). Parenthood, they say, often means that mothers and single parents end up not reaching and holding managerial positions, or must switch to new jobs in other industries. They want to ?build a music industry that doesn?t marginalise parents, but supports them.? So we wanted to find out more: why has this happened, what changes should be made, and what the benefits are for the industry as a whole.
Fun fact: because all of us are based in the same grimy city of Berlin, this is the first ever in-person Music Ally Focus Podcast!
Parenthood in Music: https://www.parenthoodinmusic.com/home-eng
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--- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/musically/messageMusic Ally Focus Ep. 89: Music Ally has just released its Campaign of the Year report (Get it for free here!) and so we finish the year with our annual podcast that highlights some of the best campaigns from 2022, chosen by the experts at Music Ally. The 2022 issue of our utterly essential Campaigns of the Year report has 60 highly-detailed case studies packed with data, KPIs, ideas and learnings ? straight from the teams who did the best work of 2022. It?s a huge, vital resource for anyone working in music marketing, from DIY artist to major label. To pick out some jewels from 2022, we're joined for our end of year party / marketing bonanza by:
Eamonn Forde, writer Campaigns and Behind the Campaigns and Campaigns of the Year report; Marlen Hüllbrock, Head of Marketing and Audience at Music Ally; and Magda J?drzejevska, Training Executive at Music Ally.They each picked two campaigns from the report, explained why they are so good, and we spoke about how anyone listening can try to use these ideas for themselves.
Campaigns highlighted:
Eamonn: Eason Chan and Joakin Berg
Marlen: JVKE and Cate
Magda: Dapz on the map and Jagwar Twin
Report: Sandbox Campaigns of the Year report: download it for free now!
Webinar: Sandbox Best Campaigns of 2022: Actionable Insights and Strategies for 2023
Behind The Campaign :: Eason Chan
Behind The Campaign :: Joakim Berg
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--- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/musically/messageMusic Ally Focus Ep. 88: We?re thrilled to be joined by Dan Runcie, founder of Trapital, which offers music business insight with a strong focus on the business of hip-hop ? the world?s pre-eminent genre of pop music. Trapital has recently published its first big report on the business and culture of hip hop ? and Dan, a true thought leader in this space, has a lot of interesting things to say: he talks about how the narrow genre boundaries of hip hop are hiding its actual size and success on an international basis, how hip-hop?s super-successful leaders like Jay Z are poised to become the large-scale investors of tomorrow ? and how their hip-hop roots mean they have a remit to do things differently than the incumbents. It's a fascinating conversation for anyone who cares about the business of music - not just hip hop.
Trapital: https://trapital.co/
Trapital podcast: https://trapital.co/pod/
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--- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/musically/messageMusic Ally Focus Ep. 87: In this episode we?re joined by Kyran de Keijzer, co-founder of Muso.AI, the music credits platform that brings together data on the people that make songs, and allows music professionals to edit and manage their legacy metadata. Kyran says he looked at the most popular tracks ever made, and then looked at the metadata that reaches streaming platforms and found lots of gaps: only 60% have songwriting credits, 46% producer credits, and only 29% have engineering credits. We speak to him and ask why he chose to take on one of the huge music metadata challenges - in trying to make sure that all the people associated with a track are properly credited in the metadata, in a verified way. So, in this podcast, part of a partnership between Music Ally and Muso.AI, we wanted to hear the thoughts of someone who has spent half a decade working with music metadata and solving a problem that, he says, can help people not only get the credit they deserve, but open up new work opportunities, and get paid better for the work they do.
Muso.ai: https://muso.ai
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--- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/musically/messageMusic Ally Focus Ep. 86: We?re joined in this episode by Janelle Mitchell and Estée Blu - two recipients of the Richard Antwi Scholarship, which aims to support Black and minority ethnic students living in the UK and awards a full scholarship for University of Westminster?s Music Business Management MA course. We wanted to know how these two ambitious young pros see the music industry from their perspectives, and the hurdles that they see in front of them.
They told us their frank opinions about: the changes that need to be made, how they feel some Black people are put into job roles to fulfil a visible ?diversity? remit, and how the goal of having currently underrepresented people in senior roles will have a transformative effect. They both also talk about how Black people are often expected to carry the burden of driving change around representation in the industry ? and the subsequent impact that has on mental health.
It's an honest, important, and fascinating conversation.
Estée Blu ? https://www.esteeblu.com
Janelle Mitchell ? https://www.linkedin.com/mwlite/in/janelle-mitchell
Richard Antwi Scholarship ? https://www.richardantwi.org
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--- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/musically/messageMusic Ally Focus Ep. 85: Artist Love Ssega explains how he combines his music career with climate justice, and whether artists have a responsibility to not be silent on this issue. The climate emergency is the most meaningful challenge of our time, and one that the music industry can make a number of changes in relation to ? whether that?s in terms of reducing music businesses carbon footprints, or artists using their influence to encourage fans to make a difference. London based artist Love Ssega talks about his work addressing the climate emergency from the perspective of an artist, his work with initiatives like Earth Percent, and also about the business opportunity that awaits artists if they adopt and become vocally supportive of climate-friendly activities.
Love Ssega: https://www.lovessega.com
Earth Percent: https://earthpercent.org
Some examples of Ssega's climate-related work:
https://worldoftopia.com/love-ssega-my-world-of-good/
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--- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/musically/messageMusic Ally Focus Ep. 84: We?re joined by Gary Helsinger, SVP, Licensing & Creative at Melodie, who chats to us about the state of library music, but also tells all of the best rock n roll stories we have heard on the Focus podcast thus far. Gary has had a rich and varied background to say the least: for instance, he was Director, A&R at Chrysalis Music Group whilst also a member of platinum-selling rock band Green Jellÿ ? plus, he was also a manager, and has deep experience in licensing and synch. So he tells us about the state of modern library music and sync, and his work in that field at Melodie. He also regales us with stories of how he signed himself as a musician, discovered Jeff Buckley, signed the Smashing Pumpkins, argued with David Bowie, loaned Prince his guitar, snooped on shoppers behind a two way mirror with Michael Jackson, and, oh, a whole lot more.
Melodie: https://melod.ie
Leah Shutkever eating sausages: youtube.com/watch?v=c7_e9SfzbqY
Green Jellÿ: youtube.com/watch?v=Gtffv9bpB-U
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