Business of Home Podcast

BOH executive editor Fred Nicolaus and host Dennis Scully discuss the biggest news in the industry, including a quick end to the dockworkers strike, the shuttering of an online antiques site, and a look at whether a wave of silicosis lawsuits will upend the world of engineered stone. Later, East Fork CEO Alex Matisse joins the show to talk about Helene's impact and what comes next for North Carolina.   

This episode is sponsored by Loloi and Isla Porter

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Watts dates back to the late 19th century, when three architects banded together to start a company that made fabrics and decor for both the church and residential use. Over the course of the next 150 years, Watts’ history would be intertwined with Britain’s—it produced garments worn during the coronations of Edward VII, Elizabeth II and Charles III. Today, it’s also a modern fabric and wallcoverings brand, sold to designers all over the world.

On this episode of the podcast, host Dennis Scully speaks to Watts’ creative director Fiona Flint and its managing director Marie Severine de Caraman Chimay (better known as “MS”) about how the company has survived a century and a half by staying nimble, the ups and downs of doing business in America, and how they walk the line between celebrating their history and looking to the future.

This episode is sponsored by Four Hands and Surya

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BOH executive editor Fred Nicolaus and host Dennis Scully discuss the biggest news in the industry, including this week’s port strike, why Zillow is highlighting climate risks, and Hurricane Helene’s impact on the design community. Later, designer and author Nasozi Kakembo joins the show to talk about her book on African decor.  

This episode is sponsored by Loloi and Isla Porter

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Started as a shop for bathroom hardware in the 1970s, Waterworks has grown over the decades into a $200 million kitchen and bath company with national scale. Eight years after being acquired by RH, more growth is on the horizon: RH CEO Gary Friedman has said Waterworks could one day be a billion-dollar brand.  

On this episode of the podcast, CEO Peter Sallick talks with host Dennis Scully about what he’s learned from Friedman, finding the balance between art and engineering, and why the biggest challenge trade brands face is simply letting consumers know they exist.

This episode is sponsored by Loloi, Crypton and Rowe

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BOH executive editor Fred Nicolaus and host Dennis Scully discuss the biggest news in the industry, including last week’s interest rate cut, a card game for design clients, and why a growing number of brands are turning to the trade. Later, designer David Netto and architecture critic Paul Goldberger join the show to talk about their new book on iconic New York architect Rosario Candela.

This episode is sponsored by Hartmann&Forbes and Chelsea House

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You may not know the name Valdese Weavers, but you know their product. One of the last large-scale textile mills in America, Valdese produces fabric for everyone from retailers like Arhaus and RH to brands like Kravet and Thibaut. On this episode of the podcast, Valdese Weavers president and CEO Blake Millinor speaks with host Dennis Scully about how beige and gray took over the market; the challenges of delivering both performance and sustainability; and how Valdese has managed to thrive not by setting rigid five-year plans, but by staying loose, nimble and diversified.

This episode is sponsored by Loloi, Crypton and Rowe

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BOH executive editor Fred Nicolaus and host Dennis Scully discuss the biggest news in the industry, including Asad Syrkett’s forthcoming departure from Elle Decor, RH’s latest earnings call and why millionaire renters are on the rise. Later, designer Leanne Ford joins the show to talk about her new book, The Slow Down.

This episode is sponsored by Hartmann&Forbes and Chelsea House

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By day, Peter Dunham runs a busy design firm, but he’s also the owner of one of LA’s most notable showrooms—Hollywood at Home. The last time Dunham was on the podcast, he was navigating the confusions of Covid. Now he’s going bicoastal and opening a new showroom in New York under his own name.

On this episode of the show he speaks with host Dennis Scully about the differences between design culture in New York and Los Angeles, why textiles are like lipstick, and how he knew he was finally ready to expand.

This episode is sponsored by Loloi, Crypton and Rowe

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BOH executive editor Fred Nicolaus and host Dennis Scully discuss the biggest news in the industry, including more challenges for furniture brands, whether the American dream still includes a house with a white picket fence, and a look at how paint colors get their names. Later, Tori Mellott joins the show to talk about her new book, Southern Interiors.  

This episode is sponsored by Hartmann&Forbes and Chelsea House

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A veteran of the hospitality world, Nicole Hollis was part of the team that developed the W Hotels before going out on her own and pivoting to residential work. Over the course of two decades, Hollis built up an impressive firm, with a team of nearly 100 working out of her San Francisco office. Hollis herself has won numerous accolades for her work, including regular appearances on both Elle Decor’s A-List and the AD100.  

On this episode of the podcast she speaks with host Dennis Scully about how she built a big firm, step by step; why residential projects are more lucrative for her firm than commercial work; and why so much of her work with clients is about communicating the most information in the least amount of time possible.

This episode is sponsored by Loloi and Rowe

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BOH executive editor Fred Nicolaus and host Dennis Scully discuss the biggest news in the industry, including the ongoing controversy over quartz countertops, why college students are embracing luxury design for their dorms, and how brown became the color of wealth. Later, stylist Mieke ten Have joins the show to talk about her new book. 

This episode is sponsored by Hartmann&Forbes and Chelsea House

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BOH executive editor Fred Nicolaus and host Dennis Scully discuss the biggest news in the industry, including Kaiyo’s abrupt closure, Ikea’s new secondhand marketplace, and a look at why Crypton is suing Williams Sonoma. Later, New York Times real estate reporter Debra Kamin joins the show to explore how a massive legal ruling has reshaped the way homes are bought and sold.

This episode is sponsored by Surya

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A luxury resort tucked away in the foothills of Tennessee’s smoky mountains, Blackberry Farm defies easy categorization. Spread across thousands of acres, it encompasses everything from world class restaurants and spas to a fly fishing program, equestrian facility, farmstead and larder. Blackberry Farm also boasts a surprisingly robust design department, perhaps part of the reason why it has become a favorite getaway for luminaries in our industry. 

On this episode, proprietor Mary Celeste Beall speaks with host Dennis Scully about balancing different goals for different parts of the business, why it sometimes makes sense to spend on illogical investments, and the story of tragedy and resilience in her own life that underpins all of her work at Blackberry Farm.

This episode is sponsored by Loloi

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BOH executive editor Fred Nicolaus and host Dennis Scully discuss the biggest news in the design industry, including Perigold’s plans for brick-and-mortar stores, a housing check-in, and why the DCOTA is back on the auction block. Later, fashion designer Jenni Kayne joins the show to talk about her home line and her new hospitality venture.

This episode is sponsored by Surya

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Born in New York, Jamie Bush studied architecture in New Orleans before finally making his way to Los Angeles, where his career took off. His multifaceted work is regularly featured in national magazines, and his firm is featured on the both the AD100 and Elle Decor’s A-List. On this episode of the podcast, Bush speaks to host Dennis Scully about why interior designers sometimes get more respect than architects, his early days working for Kelly Wearstler, and why his philosophy, at heart, is simple: Leave everything better than how you found it. 

This episode is sponsored by Loloi

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BOH executive editor Fred Nicolaus and host Dennis Scully discuss the biggest news in the design industry, including another retail bankruptcy, why donating furniture is so challenging, and a look at how designers dress. Later, Rob Van Varick of Michael Graves Design joins the show to talk about the company's new accessibility collection with Pottery Barn.

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Ernie Hershberger is the founder and CEO of the furniture brand Abner Henry. Born and raised in an Amish community in Fredericksburg, Ohio, Hershberger grew up in his family’s century-old cabinetry workshop before launching his own furniture business. Over time, he got into the higher-end, custom side of the market and Abner Henry became a source for everyone from Sasha Bikoff to the Metropolitan Museum of Art.

In this episode of the podcast, Hershberger speaks with host Dennis Scully about challenging the perception around what Amish furniture is “supposed” to be, why he doesn’t believe in setting sales goals, and the surprising technology that powers his business.

This episode is sponsored by Loloi

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BOH executive editor Fred Nicolaus and host Dennis Scully discuss the biggest news in the design industry, including the return of Mitchell Gold + Bob Williams, some AI experiments from Houzz, and what a stock market crash might mean for designers. Later, real estate analyst Jonathan Miller joins the show to talk about whether the frozen housing market is finally heating up. 

This episode is sponsored by Surya

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Hector and Emma Finch are the married couple behind the British lighting company Hector Finch. Started as an antiques business, the two have stayed true to their roots, producing a line of lighting inspired by classic early 20th century pieces. Today, the company's products are sold all over the world, including top showrooms in the U.S. 

In this episode of the podcast, host Dennis Scully speaks with the Finches about not getting hung up on knockoffs, the challenge of connecting with young designers, and why, no matter what the economic conditions, they’re focusing on slow-and-steady growth. 

This episode is sponsored by Loloi

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BOH executive editor Fred Nicolaus and host Dennis Scully discuss the biggest news in the design industry, including a massive retail bankruptcy, the health of the high-end real estate market and the vanishing American porch. Later, Keith Granet of Studio Designer and Sarah Daniele of MyDoma join the show to discuss the deal that brought their two companies together.  

This episode is sponsored by Isla Porter

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Laura Sotelo, Kendall Knox, Ben Knox are the founders of the buzzy brand Olive Ateliers. In 2021, as a side hustle, the three friends started sourcing vintage pieces from all over the world and curating them into biweekly “drops” in Los Angeles. Almost immediately, there were lines around the block, their site took off, and Olive Ateliers developed a devoted fan base including designers and celebrities alike. 

On this episode of the podcast the three speak with host Dennis Scully why they wanted to start their business quickly, why the most effective sales tool is storytelling, and why they’ve come to believe in “strong opinions, weakly held”

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BOH executive editor Fred Nicolaus and host Dennis Scully discuss the biggest news in the design industry, including a cyberattack on Bassett, a design software acquisition, and the fight over megamansions. Later, the founders of bathroom renovation startup The Unoriginal Bathroom Co. join the show to discuss their new venture.  

This episode is sponsored by Isla Porter

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Jomo Tariku’s life and career have followed a winding path, from his childhood in Ethiopia to a design degree in Kansas and a stint in data visualization at the World Bank. Today, he’s internationally recognized as a furniture designer, with pieces in the permanent collection of the Metropolitan Museum of Art, the Los Angeles County Museum of Art and the National Museum of African American History and Culture. Tariku is also the creator of an impactful 2020 study that demonstrated the startling lack of Black furniture designers working with major manufacturers. 

In this episode of the podcast, Tariku speaks with host Dennis Scully about why data is more powerful than anecdotal evidence, why he’s getting into wallpaper and other categories, and what it will take to truly make design a global language.

This episode is sponsored by Loloi and Isla Porter

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BOH editor in chief Kaitlin Petersen and host Dennis Scully discuss the biggest news in the design industry, including Etsy’s return to its artisan roots, surging home insurance premiums and key business lessons from the 50 States Project. Later, designer Susan Wintersteen joins the show to talk about founding Savvy Giving by Design. 

This episode is sponsored by Isla Porter. 

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When Alex Shuford-CEO of Rock House Farm, the family of brands that includes Century, Hickory Chair, and Highland House-was on the podcast last year, he was optimistic about 2024. Halfway through the year, his optimism remains intact, and once the smoke clears from the elections in the fall, he thinks the combination of pent-up demand and a generational wealth shift will lead to significant opportunity for the industry next year and beyond.

On this episode of the show, Shuford engages in a wide-ranging conversation about where the home industry might be heading next. He speaks with host Dennis Scully about the changing role of independent furniture stores, the state of competitors like RH and Arhaus, and why he’ll be testing out a multi-brand showroom in Vegas for the very first time.

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BOH editor in chief Kaitlin Petersen and host Dennis Scully discuss the biggest news in the design industry, including he latest in the Kim Kardashian copycat lawsuit, a look at the D&D building’s new financial troubles, and a mid-year report card for home retailers. Later, Apartment Therapy founder Maxwell Ryan joins the show to talk about winning the new search game. 

This episode is sponsored by Isla Porter.

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This spring, Thomas Lavin and Jobi Blachy of Quintus decided to experiment with taking their showrooms on the road, staging pop-up events in Southern California for local designers. The events were a success, and now they’re planning more—as well as a host of other concepts for connecting with the next generation of the trade.

On this episode of the podcast, they speak with host Dennis Scully about why designers will come out for an event but not a showroom appointment; what the mansion tax and the writer’s strike meant for the LA design scene; and what the Japanese concept of Kaizen has to do with running a showroom. 

This episode is sponsored by Loloi

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Founded in 1889, Bernhardt one of the oldest family-owned furniture companies in America (if not the oldest). However, under CEO Alex Bernhardt Jr.’s leadership, the company hasn’t leaned on its heritage—instead, it’s focused on aesthetics and staying ahead of the design curve. On this episode of the podcast, Bernhardt speaks about why he’s not stressed by dupes, why he believes the pandemic ate through eight or nine years of business, and why furniture is above all a fashion industry.

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BOH executive editor Fred Nicolaus and host Dennis Scully discuss the biggest news in the design industry, including supply chain snarls that some are calling "Covid Junior," out of control home prices and the future of the family decorator. Later, Rosemary Hallgarten and Thibaut CEO Rick Kilmer join the show to talk about the deal that will see their companies join forces.  

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Emily Tobin joined The World of Interiors in 2021 and has since earned a promotion to the top spot. Her mission is to preserve what makes the cult favorite magazine so delightfully unique while also delicately bringing it into the digital age. On this episode of the podcast, she speaks with host Dennis Scully about the story behind Hamish Bowles’ tenure as editor in chief, why The World of Interiors didn’t have a website until 2022, and what’s behind the magazine’s incredible range—from dilapidated mansions to Madonna’s bedroom.  

This episode is sponsored by Loloi

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BOH executive editor Fred Nicolaus and host Dennis Scully discuss the biggest news in the design industry, including RH earnings, the latest AI design tools, and Tom Dixon’s unconventional strategy for fighting knockoffs. Later, journalist Mitchell Owens joins the show to talk about his new job as editor in chief of The Magazine Antiques.

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An accomplished interior designer who cut his teeth working for the legendary Mark Hampton, Markham Roberts is known for rooms as refined as they are lively. His work has been widely recognized by the press, and he’s a regular on Elle Decor’s A-List and the AD100. On this episode of the podcast, Roberts speaks with host Dennis Scully about why clients having access to too much information is a double-edged sword, how publishing a book gave him three of his biggest jobs, and why, in interior design, staying calm is everything.

This episode is sponsored by Loloi

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BOH executive editor Fred Nicolaus and host Dennis Scully discuss the biggest news in the design industry, including the shuttering of Oka, serious accusations against Carpenter’s Workshop Gallery, a new Havenly acquisition, and an “adventure” with RH CEO Gary Friedman.

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Together, Jordan Slocum and Barry Bordelon—better known as The Brownstone Boys—have a unique hybrid business: a busy renovation firm that tackles historic restorations in New York City, and a fast-growing media presence that includes brand deals, TV appearances, and now, a new book. On this episode of the podcast, they speak with host Dennis Scully about playing “good cop, bad cop” on the job site, what Sesame Street has to do with brownstone renovations, and why they’re determined to keep going as both influencers and renovators.

This episode is sponsored by Loloi

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BOH executive editor Fred Nicolaus and host Dennis Scully discuss the biggest news in the design industry, including another photo theft scandal; the rise of branded residences, and why designers are having second thoughts about e-commerce. Later, Textile Eye editor Saana Baker joins the show to discuss trends and takeaways from spring fabric fairs

This episode is sponsored by Loloi

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Tom Verellen took a winding route to get where he is, one that took him from his native Belgium to Ohio, through a fabric importing business and finally to North Carolina. Today the company that bears his name, Verellen, is lauded as one of the industry's most imaginative furniture makers, with a collection that balances quality, sustainability and style.  

On this episode of the podcast he speaks with host Dennis Scully about how offering Belgian hospitality to his customers has helped his business stand out, why ivory boucle may have finally peaked, and why designers are key to the future of Verellen.

This episode is sponsored by Loloi

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BOH executive editor Fred Nicolaus and host Dennis Scully discuss the biggest news in the design industry, including a deep dive into the world of design newsletters, a cyberattack on Christie’s, and Elle Decor’s new A-List. Later, upholsterer Grant Trick joins the show to discuss a new partnership.

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BOH executive editor Fred Nicolaus and host Dennis Scully discuss the biggest news in the design industry, including including an e-commerce collapse, Williams Sonoma’s latest numbers, and a viral home tour show that’s taking viewers into some unexpected rooms.  Later journalist Stephen Treffinger joins the show to recap New York's design week. 

This episode is sponsored by Loloi and Annie Selke

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Angus and Charlotte Buchanan are the husband-and-wife team behind London-based interior design firm Buchanan Studio. By taking a holistic approach to design, the pair have built a unique business that tackles everything from residential projects to products to events. Their inventive work has been recognized by press around the world, and their young firm is already winning a place on industry best-of lists.

On this episode of the podcast they speak with host Dennis Scully about working together as a couple, why getting into product has helped bring stability to their business, and why once a year they set aside time for pure creativity.

This episode is sponsored by Four Hands

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BOH executive editor Fred Nicolaus and host Dennis Scully discuss the biggest news in the design industry, including  earnings reports from Arhaus and 1stdibs, highlights from Legends, and what’s behind a surge in custom furniture. Later retail columnist Warren Shoulberg joins the show to chat about Wayfair's first venture into physical retail. 

This episode is sponsored by Loloi and Annie Selke

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Once an aspiring actor, Josh Wiener did small painting jobs to make a living while he auditioned for roles. Over time, contracting became his sole focus, his business and his passion, and today his company, SilverLining, is one of New York’s most prominent residential firms, collaborating with architects and designers like Peter Marino, Bunny Williams, and David Kleinberg. 

On this episode Josh speaks with host Dennis Scully about why building costs seem to keep going up, the problem with relying too much on renderings, and what separates a great designer from a good one.  

This episode is sponsored by Four Hands

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BOH executive editor Fred Nicolaus and host Dennis Scully discuss the biggest news in the design industry, including the fate of Banana Republic’s home brand, takeaways from the Kips Bay Decorator Show House, and what Instagram’s newest update could mean for designers. Later, artist and designer Justina Blakeney of Jungalow discusses a new phase of her career.

This episode is sponsored by Loloi and Annie Selke

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Interior designer Julie Hillman started her career in fashion with a decade-long stint at Liz Claiborne. But after she built her own home, she got hooked on decorating, and turned it into a career. Now Hillman’s work is featured in magazines the world over, and her firm is an AD100 regular.  

On this episode of the podcast she speaks with host Denis Scully about the pleasures and perils of sourcing art for clients, why the collectible design movement is just getting started, and why, when it comes to the details of a project, she doesn’t like to settle on a single thing.

This episode is sponsored by Four Hands

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BOH editor in chief Kaitlin Petersen and host Dennis Scully discuss the biggest news in the design industry, including why Williams-Sonoma was fined by the Federal Trade Commission, the latest in the Cohen Brothers real estate saga, and what a noncompete ban could mean for the design industry. Later, restauranteur Will Guidara joins to introduce his new book, "Unreasonable Hospitality." 

This episode is sponsored by Loloi and Annie Selke

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Growing up in Kenmare—a small town in County Kerry, Ireland—Bryan O'Sullivan learned the importance of hospitality and service from the comfort of his mom’s coffee shop. Pulled toward the field of architecture and design, he soon set off for school in London, and further honed his craft under design greats like Martin Brudnizki, Annabelle Selldorf and David Collins. In 2013, he took what he learned and launched his own firm. With a blend of hospitality and residential work, he quickly became one of the industry’s fastest-rising stars. 

This episode is sponsored by Four Hands

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BOH executive editor Fred Nicolaus and host Dennis Scully discuss the biggest news in the design industry, including the debut of a new source for designer fabric, the latest with Pirch, and a look at why luxury home sellers are slashing prices. Later, design journalist Ian Volner joins the show to recap Milan Design Week .

This episode is sponsored by Loloi and Annie Selke

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A fourth-generation Californian, Nathan Turner’s style is seeped in the culture and aesthetics of the Golden State. After college he opened a shop in Los Angeles that quickly became a designer favorite—but a role on the hit reality show Million Dollar Decorators rocket-powered his own design career. 

Now Turner is launching his own fabric line and considering a return to retail. On this episode of the podcast he speaks with host Dennis Scully about the lessons he learned from Mario Buatta, how being on TV landed him clients in Asia, and why he doesn’t think about holes in the market—but rather, what he has to offer.

This episode is sponsored by The Shade Store and Hartmann&Forbes

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BOH executive editor Fred Nicolaus and host Dennis Scully discuss the biggest news in the design industry, including a look at why Baby Boomers aren’t downsizing, the latest with Ralph Lauren Home, and a check-in on the state of AI-powered design. Later, BOH editor in chief Kaitlin Petersen joins the show to recap High Point Spring market.  

This episode is sponsored by Loloi and Annie Selke

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Early on, Gil Schafer discovered a passion for classical residential architecture and devoted his career to it. His firm, Schafer Buccellato architects, is widely recognized for creating superlative traditional homes, and Schafer has won numerous awards, as well as regular inclusion on the AD100. He’s also known for his collaborations with designers, having worked with industry stars like Bunny Williams, David Netto and Miles Redd. 

On this episode of the podcast, Schafer speaks with host Dennis Scully about why every firm needs a great finance person, how becoming a stepfather to two teenagers deepened his practice, and why it’s important to learn the rules of design before you break them

This episode is sponsored by The Shade Store and Hartmann&Forbes

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BOH executive editor Fred Nicolaus and host Dennis Scully discuss the biggest news in the design industry, including some worrying inflation numbers, Home Depot’s latest acquisition, and a look at why designers are rejecting the smart home. Later, fund manager James O'Brien discusses earnings reports from RH, MillerKnoll and Wayfair.  

This episode is sponsored by Loloi and Annie Selke

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As a young woman, Vicky Charles chanced into a job as a waitress at what was then London’s newest, coolest private club, Soho House. As it grew and expanded internationally, Vicky grew with it, eventually becoming the company’s design director and helping to shape its signature look. In 2016 she left to open an independent firm with partner Julia Corden—the two have enjoyed sparkling success and earned a spot on the AD100.

On this episode of the podcast, Charles speaks with host Dennis Scully about what it was like to have George and Amal Clooney as her first residential clients, why slow periods can help strengthen a firm, and why the perfect apprenticeship for aspiring designers might just be working behind a bar.

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 BOH executive editor Fred Nicolaus and host Dennis Scully discuss the biggest news in the design industry, including an update on troubled design brands Burke Decor and Pirch, surprising renovation numbers from Houzz, and a list of the most iconic furniture from the last century. Later, lawyer David Adler joins the show to break down the Donald Judd Foundation's lawsuit against Kim Kardashian and her designers.  

This episode is sponsored by Loloi and Annie Selke

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A fourth generation Los Angeles native, Oliver Furth worked for some of the city’s biggest names—including Martyn Lawrence Bullard and Michael S. Smith—before going out on his own. Two decades into running his own firm, Oliver’s vibrant work has earned him a spot on both Elle Decor’s A-List and the AD100. Now he’s releasing his debut book, Op! Optimistic Interiors, a celebration of his upbeat approach to design.

On this episode of the podcast, Furth speaks with host Dennis Scully about how writing a book helped him define his style, why he’s not interested in product licensing, and why being a designer is like conducting a symphony.

This episode is sponsored by The Shade Store and Hartmann&Forbes

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BOH executive editor Fred Nicolaus and host Dennis Scully discuss the biggest news in the design industry, including the shutdown of Pirch, Burke Decor's recent issues, RH’s latest earnings call, and a look at how Paris stays Paris.

This episode is sponsored by Loloi and Chelsea House

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An architect by training, Tom Scheerer’s career in design began almost on a whim, when he and Jeffrey Bilhuber met and agreed to collaborate on a room in a showhouse. Their partnership was short lived, but it led Scheerer into what became a sparkling career, with projects around the world, two books, and regular appearances on Elle Decor’s A List and the AD100. 

Now, he’s winding down his firm, and, through a unique profit-sharing agreement, handing off more and more of the business to his employees. On this episode of the podcast, he speaks with host Dennis Scully about why it was an advantage to never apprentice for another designer, why he never got deeply into licensed product, and why the most important quality a client can have is a sense of humor.

This episode is sponsored by Spring Street by Pollack and Crypton

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BOH executive editor Fred Nicolaus and host Dennis Scully discuss the biggest news in the industry, including Williams Sonoma’s latest earnings report, rising homebuilder sentiment, and a look at why so many independent furniture stores are closing. Later, New York Times real estate reporter Debra Kamin joins the show to discuss her reporting on the stunning NAR settlement that will upend the way homes are bought and sold. 

This episode is sponsored by Loloi and Chelsea House

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Since its founding in 2004, rug brand Loloi has expanded from scrappy upstart into a major industry player, with marquee collections by designers like Joanna Gaines, Amber Lewis and Jean Stoffer. Brothers Cyrus and Steven Loloi, who grew up in the business started by their father Amir, are now helping to lead it. On this episode of podcast, they chat with host Dennis Scully about the delicate balance of choosing the right licensing partners, their thoughts on what AI can and can’t do, and what it will take to engage the next generation of designers. 

This episode is sponsored by Spring Street by Pollack and Crypton

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BOH executive editor Fred Nicolaus and host Dennis Scully discuss the biggest news in the industry, including Design Holding's new Manhattan showroom, a good year for Arhaus, and the rise of intentionally flawed furniture. Later, designer Timothy Corrigan joins the show to talk about how a credit dispute in the pages of Architectural Digest brought a taboo topic into the open.

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Born in New Zealand, Veere Grenney made his way to England as a young man and stayed there—but being an immigrant and a little bit of an outsider has always informed his playful, eclectic approach. After working for Mary Fox Linton and at Colefax & Fowler, Grenney started his own firm—his work has since appeared in countless shelter publications and won a range of accolades, including a regular spot on the AD100.    

On this episode of the podcast, Grenney speaks with host Dennis Scully about why a little bit of bad taste can be a good thing, the tricks he borrows from David Hicks, and why the most important skill a designer can have is being good with people.

This episode is sponsored by Spring Street by Pollack and Crypton

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BOH executive editor Fred Nicolaus joins host Dennis Scully to go over the biggest news in the industry, including a new AI startup from a superstar athlete, the shutdown of Renovation Angel, and a look at the latest microtrend sweeping TikTok. Later, sustainability columnist Laura Fenton discusses practical steps to a greener design firm.

This episode is sponsored by Loloi and Chelsea House

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Founded in the 1930s, Sibyl Colefax & John Fowler is a British institution, a revered design firm with a client list that includes royalty from around the world, celebrities and titans of industry. Today it’s part of a larger business group that includes the fabric brands Cowtan & Tout and Manual Canovas, while the firm itself operates as a kind of collective, with six individual designers running their own studios under a collective umbrella.

On this episode of the podcast, principals Emma Burns and Philip Hooper speak with host Dennis Scully about why the unique structure of the firm is a strength, why American clients are easier than British ones, and why the next generation of designers needs to step away from the computer.

This episode is sponsored by Pollack and Crypton

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BOH managing editor Haley Chouinard joins host Dennis Scully to go over the biggest news in the industry, including the newest Queer Eye cast member, Houzz’s state of the industry report, and why renovations are starting to feel outdated faster than ever. Later, Founder and Creative Director of Firmdale Hotels and Kit Kemp Design Studio, Kit Kemp, discusses her latest project, the Warren Street Hotel. 

This episode is sponsored by Loloi

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In 2003, the arbiters of taste were obsessed with Europe—but David Alhadeff decided to open up a gallery for contemporary design in Brooklyn. It was a gamble, but it paid off, and over the past twenty years The Future Perfect has helped put American industrial designers on the map. In the process, Alhadeff has built a unique business model, eventually combining a gallery space with his own home in Los Angeles. 

On this episode of the podcast, he speaks with host Dennis Scully about finding ways to change within the constraints of a small business, how Los Angeles compares to New York as a market for design, and why you can’t have scale and cache at the same time.

This episode is sponsored by Minted

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BOH executive editor Fred Nicolaus joins host Dennis Scully to go over the biggest news in the industry, including the launch of Fred Segal Home, a look at the “Wild West” of online photo theft, and why “unexpected red” has gone viral on social media. Later, Havenly CEO Lee Mayer discusses her purchase of The Citizenry and her plans to build a millennial-focused house of brands.

This episode is sponsored by Loloi

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Architect, designer and artist Suchi Reddy is devoted to the study of neuroaesthetics—the science of how art and design affects the brain and body. Through collaborative installations with Google and Johns Hopkins University, she’s brought real data to the big questions about whether good design is good for our wellbeing. On this episode of the podcast, Reddy speaks with host Dennis Scully about why “style” is the wrong way to think about what works about a room, how AI will help eliminate mediocrity, and why our homes make us who we are.

This episode is sponsored by Minted 

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BOH executive editor Fred Nicolaus joins host Dennis Scully to go over the biggest news in the industry, including a huge shift in global manufacturing, a look at whether Apple’s new headset will matter for designers, and why rumors about the death of drapery have been greatly exaggerated. Later, Pooky Lighting founder Rohan Blacker shares his winding entrepreneurship journey, and explains the sudden rise of rechargeable lamps. 

This episode is sponsored by Loloi

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Ron Radziner and his partner Leo Marmol started in the late 1980s as young residential architects with a somewhat novel approach: They would not only design homes, but build them too. Thirty years later, Marmol Radziner has 200 employees, and Ron and Leo are both in the Interior Design Hall of Fame. But they still do as much in-house as possible, from design and construction to producing a line of furniture and even jewelry. 

On this episode of the podcast, Radziner speaks with host Dennis Scully about the Richard Neutra house that jump-started their career, working with fashion designer Tom Ford, and the risks and rewards of doing every element of a project yourself.

This episode is sponsored by Minted. 

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BOH executive editor Fred Nicolaus joins host Dennis Scully to go over the biggest news in the industry, including a greenwashing ban, AI dream homes, and a look at the evolution of the sales rep. Later, real estate consultant Jonathan Miller shares some good news about the housing market.

This episode is sponsored by Loloi

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The last time Zak Profera was on the podcast, he told the story of building a beloved brand, step by meticulous step. Two years later, after grappling with personal loss, he’s back with an ambitious new collection, Harvest. On this episode of the podcast, Profera speaks with host Dennis Scully about using fiction and film to tell the story of his work, why finding a manufacturing partner is like dating, and why a little bit of struggle is a healthy part of the creative process.

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BOH executive editor Fred Nicolaus joins host Dennis Scully to go over the biggest news in the industry, including a ban on renovations in Beverly Hills, how luxury brands are reaching the one percent, and the fate of the formal dining room. Later, Helen Allen, executive director of The Winter Show, discusses the rise of young collectors.

This episode is sponsored by Loloi

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Kyra and Robertson Hartnett started Twenty2 by making their own product, a line of modernist wallpaper they debuted at ICFF in 2003. But over time, they began making things for others. Now, out of a fast-expanding facility in Connecticut, the studio digitally prints wallpaper and textiles for a roster of designers and brands, including Rebecca Atwood, Eskayel, St. Frank, Rule of Three and many more. 

On this episode of the podcast, the Hartnetts speak with host Dennis Scully about going all in on their own business, how digital printing has changed the industry, and why, no matter what the state of the economy, if the work is good, the demand will be there.

This episode is sponsored by Daniel House Club

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BOH executive editor Fred Nicolaus joins host Dennis Scully to go over the biggest news in the industry, including deep cuts at Wayfair, Red Sea shipping delays, and a look at why furniture quality seems to be getting worse. Later, BOH editor in chief Kaitlin Petersen and market editor Caroline Biggs break down the highlights from Paris Déco Off and Maison&Objet.

This episode is sponsored by Loloi

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In 2016, Lily Froehlicher and her partners conceived of an e-commerce business that would bring the work of French designers and craftspeople to the wider world. The Invisible Collection was born, and quickly took off—the site has a fast-growing international clientele, with showrooms in London, Paris, New York and soon, Los Angeles. 

On this episode of the podcast, Froehlicher speaks with host Dennis Scully about the differences between French, British and American luxury; why The Invisible Collection doesn’t advertise on social media anymore; and how they’ve made the slow pace and perfectly imperfect nature of craft work for a high-speed modern audience.

This episode is sponsored by Daniel House Club

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BOH executive editor Fred Nicolaus joins host Dennis Scully to go over the biggest news in the industry, including a new acquisition for Kravet, a B Corp boom, and why TikTok is obsessed with “bookshelf wealth.” Later, BOH managing editor Haley Chouinard brings back highlights from Heimtextil, and Luxe’s new editor in chief Jill Cohen shares her plans for the brand.

This episode is sponsored by Loloi Rugs

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For years, Rosemary Hallgarten juggled a busy career in advertising with creative pursuits on the side. Then in the 1990s, a commission for a designer kick-started a fledgling rug business, and she was off to the races. Over two decades, Hallgarten has built a brand around neutral colors and sumptuous textures, bringing shearling rugs and alpaca boucle to a growing fan base. 

On this episode of the podcast, she speaks with host Dennis Scully about why she held on to her day job for five years, the rise of knockoffs and the challenges of moving from the chaos of creativity to the order of a streamlined business. 

This episode is sponsored by Daniel House Club

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BOH executive editor Fred Nicolaus joins host Dennis Scully to go over the biggest news in the industry, including change at the top for Luxe Interiors + Design, why starter homes are becoming forever homes, and a look at the latest industry comings and goings. Later, the leadership team behind  The Dump discusses their acquisition of the Mitchell Gold + Bob Williams inventory.

This episode was sponsored by Loloi Rugs

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Started in 1976, for decades Surya was a modest rug manufacturer. But when Satya Tiwari—the son of the company’s founder—joined the business in the early 2000s, he began pushing it to grow, and over the years it has become a large-scale industry player, covering multiple categories and doing hundreds of millions in revenue. Last year, Tiwari went on an acquisition spree, culminating in the purchase of the Mitchell Gold + Bob Williams brand. 

On this episode of The Business of Home Podcast, Tiwari chats with host Dennis Scully about his plans for Mitchell Gold + Bob Williams, why private equity isn’t a good fit for the home industry, and why opportunity is greatest when times are tough.

This episode is sponsored by Daniel House Club

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BOH executive editor Fred Nicolaus joins host Dennis Scully to discuss the biggest news in the industry, including a controversial leaked memo from Wayfair’s CEO, the breakup of a successful design duo, and a look at what trend forecasters are saying about 2024. Later, Alexa Hampton shares her new book and her resolutions for 2024.

This episode was sponsored by Loloi Rugs

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BOH executive editor Fred Nicolaus joins host Dennis Scully to discuss a big turnaround in interest rates, Australia’s ban on engineered stone, and a new study on Gen Z’s love of dupes. Later, BOH editor in chief Kaitlin Petersen and retail columnist Warren Shoulberg join the show to recap an eventful year.  

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As a sales rep, Brooks Morrison kept encountering two problems. Small, independent textile brands were getting lost in massive multiline showrooms—and designers in smaller cities often had to drive hours to visit the nearest design center. In 2019, Morrison launched The Design Social, a traveling pop-up where the creative talents behind indie brands could showcase their work directly for designers. In four years, she’s brought the show all across the country, from Darien Connecticut to Newport Beach, California.

On this episode of the podcast, Morrison speaks with host Dennis Scully about the power of personal connection in a saturated market, why the show is built around creatives, not sales reps, and how she searches the country for overlooked “pockets of gold.”

This episode is sponsored by Loloi and BDDW

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BOH executive editor Fred Nicolaus joins host Dennis Scully to discuss the biggest news in the industry, including this year’s AD100, a brutal quarter for RH, and change at the top for Food52. Later, Chad Stark discusses why his company's latest moves around pricing transparency don't mean Stark Carpet is going all in on DTC.  

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The last time Ethan Allen CEO Farooq Kathwari was on the podcast, he told the incredible story of his journey from a boyhood in Kashmir and Pakistan to the top of one of the furniture industry’s most venerable companies. This time he sticks to the present day, discussing Ethan Allen’s post-pandemic challenges and opportunities. 

Kathwari tells host Dennis Scully why smaller is better for his company’s showrooms, the five things he asks all his managers to track, and why the worst mistake a business can make is try to be all things to all people.

This episode is sponsored by Loloi and BDDW

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BOH executive editor Fred Nicolaus joins host Dennis Scully to discuss the biggest news in the industry, including a big AI investment from Airbnb, a study on the state of luxury, and a surprising new board member for House of Hackney. Later, designer Heidi Caillier joins the show to talk about her debut book, Memories of Home.

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In the late 1990s, driven by a love of craft, Soane founder Lulu Lytle took a road trip throughout Britain to meet artisans and makers. For the past 25 years she’s built a business around them, creating a collection of furniture, lighting and fabric all made in the UK (and beloved by interior designers around the world). On this episode of the podcast, Lytle speaks with host Dennis Scully about opening a new showroom in New York, why it’s so difficult to make quality furniture at an affordable price, and why luxury without transparency isn’t luxury at all.

This episode is sponsored by Loloi and BDDW

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BOH executive editor Fred Nicolaus joins host Dennis Scully to discuss the biggest news in the industry, including a new CEO for Design Manager, a pair of RH gallery openings, and an update on the Mitchell Gold + Bob Williams story. Later, designer Amber Lewis joins the show to talk about her new book, Call It Home. 

This episode is sponsored by Loloi and Annie Selke

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Call It Home
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Raffaele and Caterina Fabrizio are the brother and sister team behind Italian fabric brand Dedar. Founded in 1976 by their parents, the Fabrizios have taken the company into the next generation, establishing it in Europe as a vibrant presence bringing the energy of fashion to fabric. On this episode of the podcast, they tell host Dennis Scully about their collaboration with Hermes, tackling the American market, and why Dedar is all about the blend of elegance and courage.

This episode is sponsored by Universal Furniture and Hooker Furniture

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The last time interior designer David Netto was on the Business of Home Podcast, he spoke about the changing state of design media, and the importance of books. Now he’s got a book of his own to discuss, a monograph covering twenty projects from the full scope of a celebrated career. 

On this episode of the show, he chats with host Dennis Scully about why it’s better to have no projects at all than too many, ignoring the beige-ification of the contemporary aesthetic, and why the young designers at his firm give him hope for the future.

This episode is sponsored by Universal Furniture and Hooker Furniture

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BOH executive editor Fred Nicolaus joins host Dennis Scully to discuss the biggest news in the industry, including a new twist in the Mitchell Gold + Bob Williams saga, a 1stdibs trend report, and a look at what the latest inflation numbers mean for designers. Later designer Ashley Whittaker explains why she's pivoting to a new career.

This episode is sponsored by Loloi and Annie Selke

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The son of an entrepreneur, Robert Stilin was raised to go into business—as a boy, he read the Wall Street Journal and dreamed of a career in private equity. But when he moved to Palm Beach as a young man, he found himself drawn instead to design,  opening a shop and taking on local projects. Decades later, Robert is one of the industry’s most celebrated talents, regularly featuring on Elle Decor’s A-List and the AD100.  

On this episode of the podcast, he speaks with host Dennis Scully about how he gets around the problem of clients not wanting their homes photographed, how he made art a crucial part of his business, and why a small firm is perfect for high-end projects.

This episode is sponsored by Universal Furniture and Hooker Furniture

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BOH executive editor Fred Nicolaus joins host Dennis Scully to discuss the biggest news in the design industry, including an uptick in luxury home sales, a look at the Dallas Kips Bay Decorator Show House, and an update on the legal battle between artists and AI. Later, Vesta founder Julian Buckner explains why he thinks subscription furniture has a future. 

This episode is sponsored by Loloi and Annie Selke

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Fernish
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Raised on a small farm in her native Sweden, Beata Heuman moved to London in her twenties and learned the trade working for celebrity designer Nicky Haslam. Once out on her own, she quickly became known for exuberant colors and a playful, nostalgic approach to design. After the product side of Beata’s business took off, her husband John Finlay left behind a corporate law career to help run the brand. 

On this episode of the podcast, the two of them speak to host Dennis Scully about opening up a showroom in a historic London building, working together as a married couple, and why mischief is the secret ingredient in Beata’s work.

This episode is sponsored by Universal Furniture and Hooker Furniture

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BOH executive editor Fred Nicolaus joins host Dennis Scully to discuss the biggest news in the design industry, including a major shakeup in the real estate industry, Pinterest's great quarter, and the decline of the home office. Later, journalist Chris Moody shares takeaways from his deep dive into the world of white paint.  

This episode is sponsored by Loloi and Annie Selke

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John Gabbert grew up in his father’s  business—Gabberts, a popular furniture chain in the midwest—but in the late 1970s he split off on his own. The result was Room & Board, a furniture brand focused on modern design; American manufacturing, and a slow-and-steady pace of growth that has paid off over the decades. 

On this episode of the podcast, Gabbert speaks with host Dennis Scully about the business book that became his bible, why he refuses to take private equity money and how he got away from the industry’s obsession with newness.

This episode is sponsored by Loloi Rugs and Hector Finch. 

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BOH executive editor Fred Nicolaus joins host Dennis Scully to discuss the biggest news in the design industry,including a design media shake-up, an update on the Mitchell Gold + Bob Williams bankruptcy, and a look at Gwenyth Paltrow’s new experiment in Hospitality. Later, Christi Barbour, the High Point Market Authority's first interior designer board chair, shares her thoughts on an evolving market.  

This episode is sponsored by Four Hands and Design Manager

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Known for her striking use of materials and bold style, interior designer Cara Woodhouse is proof that there’s no single path to success in the design industry—she’s overseen large firms and small firms, developed product lines, dabbled in e-commerce, real estate development and even created a jewelry line.

On this episode of the podcast, she speaks with host Dennis Scully about how building an instagram following changed her aesthetic, finding the right size for her firm, and why, whenever there’s a rule, she wants to break it.  

This episode is sponsored by Loloi Rugs and Hector Finch. 

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BOH executive editor Fred Nicolaus joins host Dennis Scully to discuss the biggest news in the design industry, including Z Gallerie's bankruptcy, Walmart's AI design experiment, and a look at the latest housing numbers. Later, BOH editor in chief Kaitlin Petersen and retail columnist Warren Shoulberg recap High Point Market. 

This episode is sponsored by Four Hands and Design Manager

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As one half of the acclaimed duo Diamond Baratta, Anthony Baratta spent his early career at the top of the design world. The firm’s joyously colorful spin on classic American design won it constant press coverage and countless accolades. But after the departure and tragic passing of his partner William Diamond, Baratta had to reinvent the firm, and himself. 

On this episode of the podcast, he speaks with host Dennis Scully about going through difficult times and coming out on the other side, why he doesn’t worry about getting published anymore, and why scaling his firm back has made him happier than ever. 

This episode is sponsored by Loloi Rugs and Hector Finch. 

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BOH executive editor Fred Nicolaus joins host Dennis Scully to discuss the biggest news in the design industry, including some new developments with the Mitchell Gold + Bob Williams bankruptcy case, the acquisition of an iconic wallpaper brand, and a look at what’s selling in the world of vintage furniture. Later, BOH editor in chief Kaitlin Petersen discusses the magazine's fall technology issue, and entrepreneurs Anderson Somerselle and Nancy Evars join the show to share their thoughts on shaking up the multiline showroom model.

This episode is sponsored by Four Hands and Design Manager

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Hunter and Meredith Ellis are the husband-and-wife team behind the James network of showrooms. The Ellises make for an intriguing pair: Before starting James, Meredith was a designer—Hunter was a news anchor and navy pilot. Together they’ve created a fast-growing, much-admired showroom business with locations in Austin, Dallas, Houston and soon, New York.  

On this episode of the podcast, the Ellises speak with host Dennis Scully about what the design industry can learn from the military, the pros and cons of digitally printed fabric, and why the two of them want to bring a touch of Texas hospitality to the Big Apple. 

This episode was sponsored by Loloi Rugs and Hector Finch. 

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BOH executive editor Fred Nicolaus joins host Dennis Scully to discuss the biggest news in the design industry, including Shopify and Faire teaming up, an illness afflicting quartz fabricators, and Banana Republic's big push into home. Later, T Magazine design editor Tom Delavan joins the show and shares his thoughts on ivory boucle, quiet luxury, and what it takes for a project to catch his eye.

This episode is sponsored by Four Hands

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There are long-lived design firms, and then there’s McMillen: The venerable New York institution is currently celebrating its 99th year in business. Along the way McMillen has served as a proving ground for designers like Mark Hampton and Albert Hadley, and completed projects for everyone from Babe Paley to Microsoft’s Paul Allen.

McMillen is not a family firm, but president Ann Pyne and her daughter Elizabeth Pyne both grew up in the business and are steeped in its traditions and lore. On this episode of the podcast they speak with host Dennis Scully about why interior design is more about people than product, why they’re not worried about the rise of artificial intelligence, and what it takes for a design business to last a century.

This episode was sponsored by Lillian August and Hartmann & Forbes.

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BOH executive editor Fred Nicolaus joins host Dennis Scully to discuss the biggest news in the design industry, including some new developments at High Point Market, what neuroscience can tell us about it, and why Kelly Wearstler is experimenting with AI. Later, furniture industry investor James O'Brien, the portfolio manager at Great Ocean Road Advisors, joins the show to share his thoughts on RH's recent slide, and what the stock market can tell us about the home business.  

This episode is sponsored by Chelsea House

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Lisa Montague is the CEO of  Sanderson, the design group that includes Zoffany, Morris and Co, and Clark and Clark, but her own background is not in home but in luxury fashion. Montague spent her early career at Mulberry and then at the LVMH-owned Spanish brand  Loewe, acquiring a reputation as a specialist in breathing new life into heritage companies.  

On this episode of the podcast, she speaks with host Dennis Scully about the secrets of the LVMH playbook, a surprising collaboration with Disney, and why the slow pace of the home industry can sometimes be a good thing. 

This episode was sponsored by Lillian August and Hartmann & Forbes.

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BOH executive editor Fred Nicolaus joins host Dennis Scully to discuss the biggest news in the design industry, including another furniture acquisition, some surprising housing numbers, and why ivory boucle may finally be on its way out. Later, Laiza Cors of influencer marketing agency Embello shares why she thinks virtual showhouses have a future.

This episode is sponsored by Chelsea House

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After studying at Parsons and at NYU, the worlds of fashion and filmmaking first beckoned Miles Redd, but it wasn’t until he went to work for the legendary John Rosselli and Bunny Williams, that he knew he had found his place. His glamorous, vibrant interiors have earned him national press, a spot on the AD100, and collections with Schumacher and Ballard Design. A multitalented creative, Redd also had a stint as creative director for Oscar de La Renta home and is the author of The Big Book of Chic.  

On this episode of the podcast, he speaks with host Dennis Scully about rebranding his firm to include his partner David Kaihoi, the right way to leave a design firm, and how he’s ridden the economic ups and downs of two decades in business.

This episode was sponsored by Lillian August and Hartmann & Forbes.

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BOH executive editor Fred Nicolaus joins host Dennis Scully to discuss the biggest news in the design industry, including a recap of the latest RH earnings call, the dark side of decluttering and takeaways from this fall’s Maison & Objet. Later, Washington Post reporter Rachel Kurzius discusses the slow decline of furniture quality.

This episode is sponsored by Chelsea House

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Design historian Emily Evans Eerdmans is the author of a new book: Mario Buatta, Anatomy of a Decorator. In the later years of Buatta’s life, Emily was something of a protege to the legendary “prince of chintz.” Since his passing in 2018, she’s devoted herself to his legacy, organizing a blockbuster auction of Buatta’s estate and penning two books on his life and work. I spoke with Emily about how Buatta was able to find his way from a humble beginning in Staten Island to the upper echelons of Manhattan society, the rise and fall of English country style, and what young designers can learn from the industry’s last great eccentric.

This episode was sponsored by Lillian August and Hartmann & Forbes.

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BOH executive editor Fred Nicolaus joins host Dennis Scully to discuss the biggest news in the design industry, including the return of Modsy, an update on Mitchell Gold + Bob Williams and a deep dive into why millennials are looking to the past for design inspiration. Later, M&A experts Tim and Bo Stump dissect a chaotic time in the furniture industry.

This episode is sponsored by Chelsea House

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Last weekend, the abrupt shutdown of retailer Mitchell Gold + Bob Williams shocked the industry. On a special episode of the podcast, co-founder and former CEO Mitchell Gold shares a candid look at what happened and his efforts to give the company another chance.

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BOH executive editor Fred Nicolaus joins host Dennis Scully to discuss the biggest news in the design industry, including the sudden closure of Mitchell Gold + Bob Williams, the return of RH’s infamous catalog and a look at how Hollywood portrays interior designers.

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DISC Interiors began as something of a professional blind date, when David John Dick and Krista Schrock joined forces for a modest project. The two have stuck it out and built a firm at the forefront of Los Angeles’ rising generation of designers. On this episode of the podcast, Dick and Schrock speak with host Dennis Scully about their new furniture showroom, why they don’t fear AI, and why embracing a low-key, step-by-step approach has helped them build a lasting business. 

This episode is sponsored by Loloi and Thibaut

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BOH executive editor Fred Nicolaus joins host Dennis Scully to discuss the biggest news in the design industry, including Ikea’s latest moves, why homes are shrinking and what the latest TikTok drama says about online design culture. Later, retail columnist Warren Shoulberg shares his takeaways from the summer’s biggest trade shows.

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A protege of Victoria Hagan, Sara Story opened up her own firm in 2003 and has enjoyed a sparkling career. Her work, which often draws on fine art for inspiration, has won awards and graced magazine covers for two decades. On this episode of the show, Story speaks with host Dennis Scully about her first book, The Art of Home, the perfect length for a client meeting, and why in her spare time, pushing herself to run marathons and climb mountains helps keep her focused.

This episode is sponsored by Loloi and Thibaut

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BOH executive editor Fred Nicolaus joins host Dennis Scully to discuss the biggest news in the design industry, including why Amazon is quitting the furniture business, AI-generated building materials, and what dorm room shopping means for retailers—and designers. Later, designer Summer Thornton discusses the debut of Casa Rosada, her new hospitality project in Mexico.

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Interior designer Benjamin Johnston began his career in architecture working in Japan for the renowned firm of Cesar Pelli. But he soon found himself drawn to interior design, and opened up his own shop in his home state of Texas. In a relatively young career, Ben has won wide recognition for his work—his projects have graced magazine covers, and he’s landed product deals with Chaddock and S. Harris.  

On this episode of the show, Johnston discusses the problem of luxury brands not offering luxury service, learning to talk money with clients, and why he strives for excellence, not perfection. 

This episode is sponsored by Loloi and Thibaut

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BOH executive editor Fred Nicolaus joins host Dennis Scully to discuss the biggest news in the design industry, including including the sudden closure of a North Carolina manufacturer, a new award for up-and-coming designers, and a look at how microtrends are changing the design industry. Later, designer Jake Arnold discusses the inspiration behind his new book Redefining Comfort.

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Business of Home

The last time Alex Shuford—CEO of  Rock House Farm, the family of brands that includes Century, Hickory Chair and Highland House—was on the podcast, it was 2021, and the industry was riding high on the home boom while grappling with out-of-control lead times. Now, the situation is reversed: Lead times are far better, but demand has cooled.

On this episode of the show, Shuford gives a comprehensive look at the state of the home industry. He speaks with host Dennis Scully about the shifting balance of power between retailers and designers, leadership lessons from the pandemic, and why, despite short-term turbulence, the future is bright.  

This episode is sponsored by Loloi and Thibaut

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BOH executive editor Fred Nicolaus joins host Dennis Scully to discuss the biggest news in the design industry, including lights out for incandescent bulbs, the collapse of a major trucking business, and a look at what’s going on with Florida real estate. Later, New York Times real estate reporter Ronda Kaysen discusses the rise of modern farmhouse style.

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Born in Haiti and raised in a strict home where education was the focus, Liz emigrated to the United States as a young girl.  After graduating from the prestigious Cooper Union, Liz ultimately became a partner at Peter Pennoyer Architects, where she would go on to hone her craft for nearly 20 years.

Ready for a change, Liz opened Yellow House Architects in February 2020, just as COVID-19 was about to shut down the world.

On this episode of the podcast, she speaks with host Dennis Scully about hiring during the pandemic, the pressures that can come from winning early acclaim, and the realization that when you are running your own firm, there’s never enough of you to go around.

This episode is sponsored by Loloi and Daniel House Club

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BOH editor in chief Kaitlin Petersen joins host Dennis Scully to discuss the biggest news in the design industry, including how industry brands are targeting Gen Z, the environmental consequences of home demolitions, and a look at our summer print issue. Later, professor Annetta Grant discusses her research on how media outlets like HGTV impact renovations.

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Jonsara’s career took an unexpected turn following a business trip to China. There to oversee the production of a new furniture collection, she witnessed firsthand the environmental impact of the manufacturing process and it changed forever her outlook on how products are made. Today through her work at the Healthy Materials Lab, she hopes to steer designers and the industry in the direction of making choices that are better for people’s health and the environment. On this episode of the podcast, she speaks with host Dennis Scully about the experiences that led to her current pursuit, what questions the industry can begin to ask about materials and ingredients, and the transformational role designers can play in changing the world.

This episode is sponsored by Loloi and Daniel House Club

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BOH editor in chief Kaitlin Petersen joins host Dennis Scully to discuss the biggest news in the design industry, including Crate & Barrel’s answer to rising renovation costs, Banana Republic’s effort to build a lifestyle brand, and a New York magazine cover story that paints a stark future for commercial real estate. Later, Pin-Up editorial director Felix Burrichter discusses Barbiecore. 

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Ellie Cullman got into the profession through a chance encounter involving an ill-fated screenplay, but once she got started in design, her career took off. Over nearly 40 years in business, her firm, Cullman & Kravis, has earned a regular spot on the AD 100 and Elle Decor’s A List, graced countless magazine covers, and earned numerous awards for its work.  

On this episode of the podcast, she speaks with host Dennis Scully about her approach to hiring and retaining a great staff, how she’s reacted to ups and downs in the economy, and why design, at its core, is all psychology.

This episode is sponsored by Loloi and Daniel House Club

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BOH executive editor Fred Nicolaus joins host Dennis Scully to discuss the biggest news in the design industry, including why designers are flocking to the new Threads app, an AI fabric generator and how Gen Z’s embrace of dupes is impacting the industry. Later, real estate consultant Jonathan Miller discusses the latest developments in the housing market.

This episode is sponsored by Four Hands.

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Jean Stoffer’s career has caught fire in recent years, with the launch of a cabinetry business, big licensing deals, a store, and a popular show on the Magnolia Network. But it was far from an overnight success: for decades Stoffer patiently honed her craft as a kitchen designer running a small firm in the suburbs of Chicago. On this episode of the podcast, she speaks with host Dennis Scully about the joys—and challenges—of working with family, the highs and lows of getting into retail, and why she sees finding success later in her career as a gift.

This episode is sponsored by Loloi and Daniel House Club

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BOH executive editor Fred Nicolaus joins host Dennis Scully to discuss the biggest news in the design industry, including out-of-control construction costs, some big retail moves and a viral TikTok mocking celebrities and their pedigreed wood furniture. Later, The Textile Eye’s Saana Baker shares what’s next in fabric.

This episode is sponsored by Four Hands.

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BOH executive editor Fred Nicolaus joins host Dennis Scully to discuss the biggest news in the design industry, including a surge in new home construction, Design Milk changing hands and why a white kitchen may hurt the value of a home. Later, BOH retail columnist Warren Shoulberg traces the rise and fall of Bed Bath & Beyond.

This episode is sponsored by Crypton.  

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Tim Butcher, founder and creative director of wallpaper company Fromental, runs a truly international operation: Based in England, he and partner Lizzy Deshayes work with a team of artists in China to produce intricate custom hand painted wallpaper at scale. Over the past two decades, the business has expanded to do business all over the world—including a new corporate showroom in New York opening this month. On this episode of the podcast, he speaks with host Dennis Scully about the complex cultural history of Chinoiserie, why the rise of digital printing is both a blessing and a curse, and how smaller brands can win by finding a niche and owning it.  

This episode is sponsored by Loloi Rugs  and Room & Board

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BOH executive editor Fred Nicolaus and managing editor Haley Chouinard join host Dennis Scully to discuss the biggest news in the design industry, including the relaunch of Lonny, a Pride Month controversy, and a look at greenwashing. Later, the executive director of the Design Leadership Network, Michael Diaz Griffith, discusses his new book, The New Antiquarians.

This episode is sponsored by Crypton.  

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Suzanne Lovell began her career as an architect at the iconic firm Skidmore Owings and Merrill, but she always felt drawn to residential design. After starting her own firm in 1985, Lovell went on to a sparkling career, making the AD100 list, publishing a book, starting a textile line, and earning recognition far and wide for interiors as varied as her own interests. 

On this episode of the podcast, she chats with host Dennis Scully about why sustainability is such a complicated issue in the industry, how she pushes artisans to do their best work, and what her current pursuit of a PhD is teaching her about her own practice.

This episode is sponsored by Loloi Rugs  and Room & Board

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BOH executive editor Fred Nicolaus joins host Dennis Scully to discuss the biggest news in the design industry, including a potential buyer for Bed Bath and Beyond, a roundup of the latest showroom openings and a look at how designers are catering to an aging population. Later, ThinkLab founder Amanda Schneider gives listeners a live recap from NeoCon.

This episode is sponsored by Crypton.  

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Bunny Williams and Elizabeth Lawrence are the principals of Williams Lawrence—a firm that, until a few weeks ago, was known as Bunny Williams Interior Design. Lawrence, who started working with Williams as an intern, has risen through the ranks for two decades to become partner. On this episode of the podcast, she and Williams speak with host Dennis Scully about the lost art of patience in the design industry and their thoughts on Kips Bay, TikTok and AI.

This episode is sponsored by Loloi Rugs  and Room & Board

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BOH executive editor Fred Nicolaus joins host Dennis Scully to discuss the biggest news in the design industry, including home insurers pulling out of California, the acquisition of cookware brand Great Jones, and RH’s British invasion. Later, the managing director of Chelsea Harbor, Claire German, discusses the new showhouse in London’s design center.

This episode is sponsored by Crypton.  

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Almost three years into his tenure as editor in chief of Elle Decor, Asad Syrkett has just unveiled the magazine’s annual A-List of top designers. On this episode of the podcast, he speaks with host Dennis Scully about how he approaches who makes the cut, who doesn’t, and what role lists play in the age of social media. Other topics include Syrkett’s thoughts on AI, the rise of interior design TikTok, and why, when it comes to the really important issues, he wants Elle Decor to keep asking difficult questions.

This episode is sponsored by Loloi Rugs  and Room & Board

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BOH executive editor Fred Nicolaus joins host Dennis Scully to discuss the biggest news in the design industry, including LVMH taking its employees to sustainability school, RH’s earnings call, and a new wave of designers getting into the vacation rental business. Later, Peloton CEO John Foley discusses his new direct-to-consumer rug brand, Ernesta.

This episode is sponsored by Crypton.  

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BOH executive editor Fred Nicolaus joins host Dennis Scully to discuss the biggest news in the design industry, from a check in on New York Design Week to a blue sofa that went viral on TikTok. Later, designer Shea McGee joins the conversation to discuss her new MasterClass. 

This episode is sponsored by Daniel House Club.  

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The daughter of legendary English decorator Nina Campell, Rita Konig grew up in the trade. After authoring a runaway hit book, Domestic Bliss, she struck out on her own, and has built a brilliantly multifaceted career as a writer, designer and streaming star on the online education platform Create Academy.  

On this episode of the podcast, Konig talks about reaching an audience beyond her core clients, whether RH can succeed in England, and lessons the British and American design industries can learn from each other.

This episode is sponsored by The Shade Store and Loloi Rugs

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BOH executive editor Fred Nicolaus joins host Dennis Scully to discuss the biggest news in the design industry, from Warren Buffet's breakup with RH stock to what really happened with Jean de Merry. Later, Harbinger's Joe Lucas breaks down the latest developments in LA's design scene.  

This episode is sponsored by Daniel House Club.  

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Sean Anderson has come a long way to get to where he is: after growing up in a small town in Mississippi and dropping out of college, he spent a decade working as a bartender, electrician and janitor. After moving to Memphis and redesigning his partner’s home, people began to notice Anderson’s work—so did design magazines like Architectural Digest and Elle Decor, and today he’s one of the southeast’s buzziest young designers.

On this episode of the podcast, Anderson speaks with host Dennis Scully about the advantages of working with a remote staff, his experience with The Expert, and why, for young designers, comparing yourself to someone else is the worst thing you can do.

This episode is sponsored by The Shade Store and Loloi Rugs

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BOH executive editor Fred Nicolaus joins host Dennis Scully to discuss the biggest news in the design industry, from a greenwashing lawsuit to the debate over gray flooring. Later, the podcast takes a trip to the 48th annual Kips Bay Decorator Show House.

This episode is sponsored by Daniel House Club.  

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Sara Sugarman grew up in the design industry—her father ran a rug showroom that had been started by his father in the 1950s. When Sugarman came onboard the family firm in the 2000s, she became intrigued by the rise of online shopping, so she started e-commerce platform Lulu & Georgia as a side project. It was an instant hit, and has since grown by leaps and bounds. 

On this episode of the podcast, Sugarman speaks with host Dennis Scully about why she’s committed to keeping Lulu & Georgia online only, how starting a family made her a better CEO, and why, when it comes to the e-commerce revolution, we’re just getting started.

This episode is sponsored by The Shade Store and Loloi Rugs

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BOH executive editor Fred Nicolaus joins host Dennis Scully to discuss the biggest news in the design industry, from Tiffany's new headquarters to the AI interior design gold rush. Later, former House Beautiful editor in chief Sophie Donelson chats about her new book, Uncommon Kitchens. 

This episode is sponsored by Daniel House Club.  

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Thom Filicia rose to fame after his appearance on the breakout hit Queer Eye for the Straight Guy, but his career began in the rarified world of New York’s most prestigious design firms, with stints working for Parish-Hadley, Robert Metzger and Jeffrey Bilhuber. Though Filicia found success on TV, he never left the design world behind, and he’s continued to take on projects, build a growing empire of licensed product, and open a to-the-trade showroom, Sedgwick and Brattle.

In front of a live audience at High Point Spring Market, Filicia spoke with host Dennis Scully about his intuitive approach to business, taking design beyond the 1%, and why he’s always relished ignoring convention and striking out on his own path.

This episode is sponsored by The Shade Store and Loloi Rugs

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BOH executive editor Fred Nicolaus joins host Dennis Scully to discuss the biggest news in the design industry, from Bed Bath & Beyond's bankruptcy to the rise of "Quiet Luxury." Later, BOH editor in chief Kaitlin Petersen comes on the show to recap High Point Market's spring edition.

This episode is sponsored by Crypton

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At 38, Jeremiah Brent is a young designer. But from building a bicoastal firm to an appearance on the AD100 list to product lines to TV shows with his husband Nate Berkus, he’s packed a great deal into his career already. On this episode of the podcast, Brent speaks to host Dennis Scully about learning to let go as he grew his firm, why personalization is the ultimate form of luxury, and why he wants to change the industry’s checkered reputation.

This episode is sponsored by Loloi and Four Hands

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BOH executive editor Fred Nicolaus joins host Dennis Scully to discuss the biggest news in the design industry, from MillerKnoll's PR crisis to some good signs from the stock market. Later, journalist and podcaster Dan Rubinstein joins the show live from Milan to share an update from Salone del Mobile. 

This episode is sponsored by Crypton

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Though Romo’s history goes back to 1902 in England, in the U.S. the company was relatively unknown for its first century in business. That changed when North American CEO Frederic Henry took the reins in 2005. He’s since transformed Romo into a fabric powerhouse here, with six house brands and a network of showrooms across the country.  

On this episode of the podcast, Henry joins host Dennis Scully and shares how one key relationship changed everything for Romo, why multiline showrooms are key to the industry’s future and why he sees conquering the fabric industry like a game of Risk. 

This episode is sponsored by Loloi and Four Hands

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BOH executive editor Fred Nicolaus joins host Dennis Scully to discuss the biggest news in the design industry, from a client rejection note that went viral to Ikea's new design service. Later, Schumacher CEO Timur Yumusaklar discusses the brand's new Nashville showroom/boutique hybrid.  

This episode is sponsored by Crypton

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A multitalented creative, Sarah Sherman Samuel has occupied many roles in the industry: Interior designer, product designer, TV star, social media creator, and artist. Her collaborations with Lulu & Georgia, West Elm and Semihandmade are perennial hits, and her own line of furniture, SSS Atelier, just debuted at New York’s buzzy Colony gallery last month. On this episode of the podcast, Samuel speaks with host Dennis Scully about balancing design projects with product collaborations, the shifting winds of social media, and the complicated relationship between creative passion and commercial success. 

This episode is sponsored by Loloi and Four Hands

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On the debut episode of The Thursday Show, BOH executive editor Fred Nicolaus joins host Dennis Scully to discuss the biggest news in the design industry, from the return of the New York Kips Bay Decorator Show House to RH’s wild earnings call. Later, wunderkind stylist Colin King talks about working with Athena Calderone and Roman & Williams, his new book Arranging Things, and whether he's over white boucle (spoiler alert: he is).

This episode is sponsored by Crypton

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Originally a design and architecture journalist, in 2005 Matt Gibberd and his childhood friend Albert Hill started building a site that not only profiled exceptional British homes, but sold them too. Part media platform and part real estate agency, The Modern House has become a truly unique business, and a thriving one, fielding 90 out of a London office and looking towards international expansion. On this episode of the podcast, Gibberd speaks with host Dennis Scully about the emotional power of houses, how English taste in design is changing, and why 3D renderings and virtual reality will never replace good old-fashioned photography. 

This episode is sponsored by Loloi and Four Hands

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Sister Parish was one of the 20th century’s most iconic designers. Working for presidents, celebrities, socialites and titans of industry, she and her partner Albert Hadley crafted a uniquely American style, and their firm, the legendary Parish-Hadley, was a proving ground for a generation of future stars, from Bunny Williams and David Kleinberg to Thomas Jayne and David Easton. Now Parish’s legacy is being carried on into the 21st century as a fabric and wallpaper brand run by her granddaughter Susan Crater and great granddaughter Eliza Harris. On this episode of the podcast, they chat with host Dennis Scully about why Sister Parish was an entrepreneur ahead of her time, why they’re embracing both consumers and designers alike, and putting faith over fear as the industry enters a new era.  

This episode is sponsored by Loloi and Four Hands

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After a chance meeting in Brooklyn brought them together, Todd Nickey and Amy Kehoe forged a partnership that has survived a cross country move and two decades in business. Today, both the firm and the retail operation are thriving, and Nickey Kehoe is one of LA’s most celebrated young design brands. On this episode of the podcast, the duo talk about the secrets of a long-term partnership, finding the right amount of risk taking in their business, and why they want to be known for a feel, not a look.

This episode is sponsored by Loloi and Four Hands

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Irish furniture brand Orior has an improbable history: Started in the late 1970s by the husband-and-wife duo of Brian and Rosie McGuigan, the company began in a small town near Belfast in the midst of the Troubles. 40 years later, the furniture is still manufactured in the same town, but the McGuigan’s son Ciaran has brought the brand to New York and given it an edgy, cosmopolitan look. On this episode of the podcast, Rosie and Ciaran McGuigan tell host Dennis Scully about getting through tough times, leaning into their Irishness, and why being bold—and maybe a little crazy—has always been part of their company’s DNA.

This episode is sponsored by Loloi and Four Hands

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Once an aspiring actor, Martyn Lawrence Bullard left his native England for Hollywood in the 1990s and quickly switched professions. He’s since become one of the industry’s most renowned designers, earning a regular spot on best-of lists, and working with a roster of celebrity clients, from Cher and Elton John to Machine Gun Kelly and Kylie Jenner. On this episode of the podcast, Bullard speaks with host Dennis Scully about why his superpower has always been intuition, why he’s not a fan of hourly billing, and why his strategy for licensing resembles a pyramid.

This episode is sponsored by Loloi and Four Hands

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Once a buzzy DTC furniture brand, last year Interior Define hit hard times and stopped paying its vendors, leaving thousands of customers in limbo with unfulfilled orders. At the 11th hour, Interior Define was acquired by an unlikely buyer: e-design platform Havenly. This week, Havenly’s CEO Lee Mayer returns to the podcast to talk about the acquisition.

Mayer speaks with host Dennis Scully about the strings attached to venture capital money, the complicated process of acquiring a brand in distress, and why, despite all of the drama, she thought Interior Define deserved another chance. 

This episode is sponsored by Loloi and Daniel House Club

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You may not be familiar with the name “Design Holding,” but you know the brands in its portfolio, including Flos, B&B Italia, Louis Poulsen, Maxalto and many more. Through strategic acquisitions, the company has quietly become one of the most significant players in European luxury design—CEO Daniel Lalonde’s goal is to make Design Holding the LVMH of the home world. On this episode of the podcast, Lalonde speaks with host Dennis Scully about catering to both designers and consumers, his thoughts on trade pricing, and why there’s no shortcut to real luxury.

This episode is sponsored by Loloi and Daniel House Club

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When Jake Arnold and Leo Seigal launched The Expert in 2021, the online design platform quickly took the industry by storm, connecting clients with elite designers for video consultations booked at hundreds of dollars an hour. Now the two are launching an e-commerce component to The Expert, and they’ve lined up a roster of premier brands like Pierre Frey, Apparatus and Rose Tarlow to help them do it. On this episode of the podcast they speak with host Dennis Scully about learning from the mistakes of other design industry startups, how they earned the trust of tech-skeptical trade-only vendors, and why home is such a difficult business to bring online.

This episode is sponsored by Loloi and Daniel House Club

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Interior designer Mary McDonald rose to prominence in the early aughts, as her work began to show up on the cover of shelter magazines. She’s stayed at the top of the field ever since—McDonald is a regular fixture on industry best-of lists, and her licensed collections with Schumacher and Chaddock are perennial hits. On this episode of the podcast she speaks with host Dennis Scully about the challenges facing young designers, the surprising reason she finds RH useful to her firm, and why interior design is a never-ending learning curve

This episode is sponsored by Loloi and Daniel House Club

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Founded in 1935, Pierre Frey has become one of the most admired names in the world of high-end design, revered for its inventive, colorful creations. Patrick Frey, the son of the founder, has steered the company for decades as it has grown its presence all over the world.  The firm now offers wallcoverings, carpets and furniture, having acquired the storied French rug maker Braquenie, and the fabric houses Boussac, LeManach and, just last year, Thorp. Frey has recently turned over control of the company to his sons, Pierre, Vincent, and Mattieu, while keeping the creative direction for himself.

On this week’s episode, taped in Paris in the thick of Déco Off, Frey spoke about why he’s optimistic that the home industry isn’t due for a slowdown, the important lessons he learned from his father, and why, in design, you have to put creativity first and business second.

This episode is sponsored by Loloi and Cozy Earth

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Industrial designer Stephen Burks career started in the early 2000s, when he became one of the first Americans to design furniture for European powerhouses like Roche Bobois, Moroso and Cappellini. Over the past two decades, he’s become one of industrial design’s most notable figures, creating collections for top brands and working with artisans around the world. On this episode of the podcast, Burks speaks with host Dennis Scully about the archaic way that industrial designers are paid, how bureaucracy shapes what kind of furniture gets made, and the persistent role race plays in the design industry.

This episode is sponsored by Loloi and Cozy Earth

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In 2011, Roxy Owens left behind a marketing career to start a furniture and decor brand dedicated to playful traditionalism. Eight years later, the rise of “grandmillennial” style helped Society Social find its moment—Owens is coming off a year of record growth and an expansive new collaboration with The Colony hotel in Palm Beach. On this episode of the podcast, she speaks about the tension between being inspiring and being real on social media, how customer loyalty and a few smart pivots got her through COVID, and why prioritizing mental health is so important for business owners.

This episode is sponsored by Loloi and Cozy Earth

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A member of the UK’s rising generation, Interior designer Sophie Ashby has achieved widespread attention for her colorful and eclectic projects. During COVID, she got even busier, opening Sister, a retail brand, and United in Design, a nonprofit that seeks to address the lack of diversity in the British design industry. On this episode of the podcast, she speaks with host Dennis Scully about why shipping furniture from the UK is cheaper than buying it in the US, whether RH can succeed in England, and why being brutally honest with clients is tough but worth it.

This episode is sponsored by Loloi and Cozy Earth

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Alexa Hampton is, by any definition, a lifer in the trade. The daughter of celebrated designer Mark Hampton, she grew up in the business, and took over her father’s firm at the age of 27 after his untimely passing in 1998. Since then, Alexa has never slowed down, earning endless plaudits for her work, appearing regularly on industry best-of lists, authoring books and columns, and designing product for everyone from Kravet to Theodore Alexander to The Shade Store.  On this episode of the podcast, she speaks with host Dennis Scully about how interior design is like a language, why her ideal firm size is 11 employees, and why it’s important to embrace—not turn away from—transparency and change.

This episode is sponsored by Loloi

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This week on the podcast host Dennis Scully is joined by BOH’s editor in chief Kaitlin Petersen and executive editor Fred Nicolaus. Together they look back on an eventful year in the design industry and ahead at what’s to come in the new year. Topics include the two companies that will determine the future of the industry, which tech innovations actually matter, and why, despite economic stormclouds, 2023 might be the year to fall back in love with design.  

This episode is sponsored  by Loloi and Las Vegas Market

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Though American Leather may be an unfamiliar name  in the design trade, the company is a powerhouse of furniture manufacturing, with 800 employees in a Texas facility that’s capable of churning out 500 pieces of furniture a day. President Veronica Schnitzius has risen through the ranks over two decades— as a young woman she left behind cartel violence in Colombia to come to the US, and found a role at the company, where she’s helped grow its business by leaps and bounds.  

On this episode of the podcast, she speaks with host Dennis Scully about why change comes slow to the furniture industry, the quest to design an attractive recliner, and why manufacturing is like a symphony.

This episode is sponsored  by Loloi and Las Vegas Market

Next week, BOH editors will be on the show to recap an eventful year. If you have a question for the podcast, or a general query about the design industry, drop us a line at [email protected].

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To the outside world, Amber Lewis is an interior designer. Behind the scenes, her business is a complex operation with more than 100 employees, tackling everything from retail shops, product design and e-commerce to books, licenses and residential projects. Lewis has grown it piece by piece over the past decade, bootstrapping the company, without outside funding.

On this episode of the podcast, she speaks with host Denis Scully about the challenge of turning creativity on and off at will, running a big business with a small business mindset, and how a serious medical diagnosis gave her a new perspective on work and life.

This episode is sponsored  by Loloi and Las Vegas Market

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In 2011, Athena Calderone was a young mother in Brooklyn, looking to turn her considerable creative energy into a career. She started a blog, Eyeswoon, which has grown into a powerful platform for her various endeavors, including cooking, styling, and design. A decade in and fresh off a major collection for Crate and Barrel, Calderone is poised to kick off a new phase of growth: she’s in the midst of launching an e-commerce business and working on a residential development project—not to mention a few design jobs, partnerships with the likes of Tiffany and American Express, and attending to her nearly 1 million Instagram followers.  

On this episode of the podcast, Calderone shares with host Dennis Scully why she loves to prove the doubters wrong, how embracing the chaos of creativity is healthy, and why doing more than one thing is both a blessing and a curse.

This episode is sponsored  by Loloi and Las Vegas Market

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A fixture in the top tier of the international design scene since the late nineties, Timothy Corrigan has been on every magazine’s honor roll, won numerous awards, and is the only American to be recognized by the French Heritage Society for his work. His clients have included everyone from Madonna and David Schwimmer to the Qatari royal family—every month Tim makes a loop around the world to attend to a truly global clientele. On this episode of the podcast, he speaks with host Dennis Scully about why he likes to hire employees with first careers outside of design, how work life balance is overrated, and how transparency is the only way forward for the industry.

This episode is sponsored by Amazon Ads and Universal Furniture

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It’s difficult to sum up Lori Weitzner’s career quickly. From her partnership with fabric icon Jack Lenor Larsen to her longtime relationship with Samuel & Sons to her own wallcovering line to her jewelry to her book on color, she’s truly a multifaceted talent. On this episode of the podcast, she speaks with host Dennis Scully about learning to make the best of criticism and setbacks, her strong feelings on performance fabrics, and the future of shopping in the trade. 

This episode is sponsored by Amazon Ads and Universal Furniture

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Dennis Scully
Business of Home

As the likes of 1stdibs and Chairish have embraced a transactional, click-to-buy model for buying and selling online, Carmine Bruno is going in the other direction. His site, The Bruno Effect, offers something of an old-school system—it simply connects dealers with shoppers, then gets out of the way. On this episode of the podcast, Bruno speaks with host Dennis Scully about the growing pains of entrepreneurship, why he thinks there’s room at the top for another online marketplace, and how the internet has changed the culture of the antiques business.

This episode is sponsored by Amazon Ads and Universal Furniture

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The Bruno Effect
Dennis Scully
Business of Home

Twice a year, thousands of designers and retail buyers descend on a small town in North Carolina for High Point Market. A trade show, a conference, a networking event, and at night a party — High Point is the home industry’s South by Southwest. The fall edition just wrapped, and to recap the event, this week on the podcast Business of Home’s editor-in-chief Kaitlin Petersen and retail columnist Warren Shoulberg join host Dennis Scully on the show. They discuss their Market highlights, why the supply chain crisis isn’t a hot topic anymore, and how the industry is reacting to the possibility of a recession.

This episode is sponsored by Amazon Ads and Universal Furniture

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Kaitlin Petersen
Warren Shoulberg
Dennis Scully
Business of Home

After starting her career in the art world, a chance encounter at a dinner party got Beth Webb into design, and she hasn’t looked back. With projects in top magazines, a book through Rizzoli and a licensed collection with Arteriors, she’s one of the South’s most notable talents. On this episode of the podcast, she speaks with host Dennis Scully about how she’s navigating runaway costs and neverending lead times, why HR is the toughest part of the design business, and why landing big clients takes a “try everything” approach. 

This episode is sponsored by Loloi Rugs and Modern Matter. 

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Beth Webb
Dennis Scully
Business of Home

With a 19th century inventor, a countess, and a tragic car crash, the story of Italian fabric brand Fortuny feels like an epic novel. Here, Mickey and Maury Riad—the brothers behind the company’s modern incarnation—share the tale of Fortuny’s first century, as well as their strategy for the next 100 years.

They also tell host Dennis Scully what they learned from the shutdown of their startup Fuigo, how they’re thinking about a potential downturn, and why they believe—with the right technology—the design industry could do so much better. 

This episode is sponsored by Loloi Rugs and Modern Matter. 

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Fortuny
Dennis Scully
Business of Home

This week on the Business of Home Podcast, host Dennis Scully is joined by Julia Hunter, the CEO of the lifestyle brand Jenni Kayne. Founded in 2002 by Kayne herself, the company built its name in fashion, selling elevated basics in neutral tones. In 2017, Julia led the brand to explore textiles and eventually furniture—home is now a 20 million dollar business for Jenni Kayne. 

On the show, Hunter speaks about why influencer marketing has so much untapped potential in home, the reason she and her team bought and renovated a house, and why sticking to beige has worked so well for Jenni Kayne. 

This episode is sponsored by Loloi Rugs and Modern Matter. 

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Jenni Kayne
Dennis Scully
Business of Home

Founded in 2012 as a lighting studio by then-partners Gabriel Hendifar and Jeremy Anderson, Apparatus has quickly become one the industry’s most talked-about brands. Dividing its collections into “acts” and staging elaborate events to celebrate their release, the company brings the spirit of immersive theater to the business of selling high-end lighting and furniture.  

In this episode of the podcast, Hendifar, artistic director of Apparatus, speaks with host Dennis Scully about what it means to put narrative first in design, why Apparatus’s parties are as important as their products, and why emerging from a split with his original partner has given him the confidence to dream even bigger.

This episode is sponsored by Loloi Rugs and Modern Matter. 

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Apparatus
Dennis Scully
Business of Home

A midwestern native trained in commercial design, Suzanne Kasler made two big pivots in the mid-1990s: she moved to Atlanta, and began working exclusively on residential projects. Both changes turned out to be prescient: She quickly became one of the south’s biggest names, and is now a nationally recognized designer, regularly earning a spot on the AD100 and Elle Decor’s A-List—not to mention a robust portfolio of product licenses with everyone from Hickory Chair to Visual Comfort to Ballard Design.

On this episode of the podcast, she speaks with host Dennis Scully about why business is about more than just productivity, why she focuses on pricing transparency with clients, and how the logistical challenges of the pandemic have changed her firm forever.

This episode is sponsored by Crypton

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Suzanne Kasler
Dennis Scully
Business of Home

From creating a line of tableware to design projects that landed him on the AD100, Billy Cotton’s career has seen him apply his talents to a wide range of pursuits. Recently, after a short stint as Ralph Lauren Home’s creative director, he’s returned to the role that keeps calling him back —interior designer. On this episode of the show, he speaks with host Dennis Scully about why he likes to hire former waiters for his firm, how perception doesn’t always match reality in the design industry, and why he’s always counted on hard work to get him through difficult times.

This episode is sponsored by Crypton

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Billy Cotton
Dennis Scully
Business of Home

Founded in 2010 by Connie Matisse, her husband Alex, and their friend John Vigeland, East Fork began as a small pottery studio. The company has since evolved into a thriving direct-to-consumer brand, with a bustling manufacturing operation in North Carolina. On this episode of podcast, host Dennis Scully speaks with Matisse about her complicated relationship with social media, the leadership lessons she’s learned at the helm of a fast-growing company, and why it’s so hard to find a balance between idealism and business.   

This episode is sponsored by Crypton

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East Fork
Dennis Scully
Business of Home

John Edelman and John McPhee met by chance while working for Edelman’s brother, Sam in the footwear business—their partnership would ultimately reshape the design industry as we know it. Together, they exponentially grew the Edelman family leather business, which they ultimately sold to Knoll for $67 million. They then went on to pull off a dramatic rescue job on then-struggling retailer Design Within Reach, selling that business to Herman Miller for $154 million. Now, the pair have their own ventures: McPhee is the new CEO of chilewich, and Edelman has acquired cult favorite design brand Heller. But they continue to work together and share insights on a fast-changing market. On this episode of the show, they talk about how difficult times lead to the most growth, and why betting on great design always makes for good business.  

This episode is sponsored by Crypton.  

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Heller
Chilewich
Dennis Scully
Business of Home

With stints at Domino, House and Garden, and Martha Stewart Living, Stephen Orr is a publishing veteran who has seen most sides of the shelter media industry. In his current role as editor in chief of Better Homes & Gardens, he’s working on a new challenge: to steer a 100-year-old publication that reaches not just the affluent and design-obsessed, but all Americans, across the country, from all walks of life. In this episode of the podcast, he speaks with host Dennis Scully about what “fancy creep” is and why wants to avoid it, why he put Harry Styles on his cover, and why, for a contemporary magazine, the print issue is only part of the equation. 

This episode is sponsored by Modern Matter & High Point Market

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Better Homes & Gardens
Dennis Scully
Business of Home

A decade ago, Zak Profera started his company—Zak & Fox—a decade ago as a small line of printed linens. Through great design, determination and a relentless obsession with details, he’s grown it into a thriving independent brand, beloved by designers and represented by the industry’s best showrooms. On this episode of the podcast, he speaks with host Dennis Scully about the pros and cons of design centers, why he stopped selling to consumers, and why, despite the rapid pace of technological disruption, he thinks the design industry won’t change as much as some might think. 

This episode is sponsored by Modern Matter & High Point Market

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Zak+Fox
Dennis Scully
Business of Home

After years in the textile industry, Brian Erden had a series of innovations: One was to weave metals like bronze and brass deeply into the background of rugs. The other was to establish his own operations overseas, rather than relying on a dubious network of middlemen. In six short years, Erden product has become a hit in the industry, represented by top showrooms and used by star designers. On this episode of the podcast, he speaks with host Dennis Scully about why some rugs cost $1,000 and others $10,000, why he’s a believer in multiline showrooms, and why the textile industry isn’t as innovative as it needs to be.

This episode is sponsored by Modern Matter and High Point Market.

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Erden Rugs
Dennis Scully
Business of Home

After a breakup left Shanan Campanaro in a near-empty apartment, she decided to tap into her fine art background and create some bespoke wallcoverings. The project led her to found the New York textile design studio Eskayel. On this episode of the podcast, Campanaro speaks with host Dennis Scully about how her unorthodox beginnings, coupled with her outsider perspective and experiences watching her parents run their own business led her to create a brand that was uniquely her own.

This episode is sponsored by Modern Matter and High Point Market.

Jonathan Miller, the president and CEO of real estate appraisal and consulting firm Miller Samuel, discusses what rapidly rising interest rates will mean for the housing market. 

This episode is sponsored by Serena & Lily and the Future of Home conference. 

Originally founded as a wallpaper maker in the 19th century, Thibaut has grown over the decades to become a powerhouse brand that now produces wallcoverings, fabric and even furniture. Despite a surge of growth in our digital era, Thibaut remains proudly old-school. While other brands explore virtual visualization tools and selling online, it produces sample books and relies on a network of showrooms and shops to distribute its products. On this episode of the podcast, chief marketing officer Stacy Senior Allan speaks with host Dennis Scully about how trade brands have to police internet sellers, why she believes in the power of print magazines, and what interior designers really need in a time of so much change. 

This episode is sponsored by Serena & Lily and the Future of Home conference

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Thibaut
Dennis Scully 
Business of Home

A truly cosmopolitan interior designer, Martin Brudnizki was raised in Sweden, started his business in London, and now operates an office in New York. If you’re familiar with the finest restaurants and hotels in the world, you know his work—he’s designed everything from the Beekman in New York to Annabel’s in London to Soho House in Miami. On this episode of the podcast, he speaks with host Dennis Scully about why he likes running a large firm, why he’s pushing to get employees back to the office, and why he always takes on 30 percent more work than he can handle.

This episode is sponsored by Serena & Lily and the Future of Home conference

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Martin Brudnizki
Dennis Scully 
Business of Home

The daughter of singer Paulette McWilliams, interior designer Brigette Romanek was always destined for a creative path, but it was a winding one. She tried her hand at music and fashion before finally landing on interior design—ever since, she’s been on a tear, landing celebrity clients, a spot on the AD100 and a major collection with Mitchell Gold & Bob Williams.  On this episode of the podcast, she speaks with host Dennis Scully about the complications of working for celebrity clients, why she invested in buzzy startup The Expert, and why, economic stormclouds or no, she’s choosing to be optimistic about the future.

This episode is sponsored by Serena & Lily and the Future of Home conference

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Brigette Romanek
Dennis Scully 
Business of Home

Lighting designer Lindsey Adelman went out on her own in 2006 and scored a hit right away. Her debut piece, the now-iconic branching bubble chandelier, was a huge success—only the first of many. Sixteen years later, she’s built a thriving bicoastal business, with top designers and celebrities like Gwyneth Paltrow among her enthusiastic patrons. On this episode of the podcast, she speaks with host Denis Scully about whether she thinks the industry is due for a slowdown, how imagining Donatella Versace was her client led to a breakthrough, and why designers need to embrace instinct, play and humor in their work.

This episode is sponsored by Vaughan and Serena & Lily 

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Lindsey Adelman
Dennis Scully
Business of Home